I purchased the RX 7900 XTX Red Devil about 3-4 months ago for $899.99 and couldn't be more satisfied. With the potential release of the RTX 4080 Super, there's a chance that the RX 7900 XTX could see a price drop to $799.99 or even lower. This will likely intensify the competition in the market.
I just switched to a 4080 after using a 7900 xtx for a year. I really tried to love that card but every few weeks it would go through this thing where most games would hard crash the driver and freeze within a few seconds for no reason. I would spend hours trouble shooting and then the issue would stop on its own and the crashes would either be much less frequent or stop. Then after a few weeks it would start again. I genuinely hate Nvidia and want to support their competition but my experience with AMDs flag ship product became impossible for me. When the card worked right it performed great and could handle any game I threw at it at high or ultra settings. When it didn't function right I couldn't get more than a few seconds into a game without a total crash. I tried to RMA the card but it was returned to me and allegedly found to have "no defect". I had no choice but to go with a 4080 super. I want to support competition to Nvidia but ARC isn't there yet and AMD just wasn't stable for me. I have a 13900k and 1600w power supply. It should have worked fine with that hardware. I hate giving Nvidia my money but here I am.
Two ways to look at it. Either its a slightly updated and cheaper 4080, or a total waste of time. Either way Nvidia certainly stand proud as having extorted as much money from the public as possible. They sure as toffee arent losing money selling the 4080 SUPER at £959. so the original 4080 at 1250 was one heck of a mark up. 💪🏻💩
5000 series can't get here soon enough, but heres the question - 4000 series went up in price so much, what on earth are they going to charge for the 5000 series? !
Not to mention the rumor that Amd's next gen rdna 4 isn't going to compete with 5000 series high end. 5000 series prices aren't gonna look pretty :/ Which is why I just ended up buying a 7900xt today for 720 lol
One can only dream, but hear me out: what if RTX 5000 series was the strategic goal all along? Lets say they intentionally released all high-end 40 series cards at a much higher price than people expected. They know they'll sell out regardless. Now lets fast-forward to the future: RTX 5090. Releases for £800-1000 MSRP. 40%-60% better than previous gen 4090. Nvidia made bank on the previous gen so they can afford to sell at this price, with room for an even better Ti or Super SKU. Now Jensen and the team at Nvidia would look like they listened to our pricing complaints, and releasing a reasonably priced top-tier flagship 50 series makes everyone respect them again and most of us would forget the absolute insanity of 40 series prices. But yeah, back on planet Earth, we are probably looking at £2000+ for a 5090. Nvidia doesn't give a fuck 😂
guess ill be sticking with the 7900 xtx as my intended GPU for my next build (though ive got another year, so plenty of time for something else to come out)
they plan on releasing the SUPER DUPER versions in Spring, another 200 less than this one, same speed, but you get a miniature figure of Jensen Huang in a leather jacket.
Nvidia realized no one was buying at$1200 so this is just a way to try to save face and drop it $200 US. It’s still far to expensive in Canada…it’s pretty much sold out but they have very lock stock
all I seem to see is a lower price at launch for the 4800 super and then it creeps up to nearly the same prices as a regular 4080 across the brands. On the AMD side of part picker the 7900XTX seems to have taken a price cut on the already less expensive brands at launch of the 4800 supers then remained mostly at these lower prices. Overall expect no savings from Nvidia cards, the more well known the brand the higher the cost for the name.
Thanks, we have a load more in the written article too if you're interested! www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/nvidia-rtx-4080-super-review/38/
I feel like such a chump. I wasn't able to get one on Nvidia's site literally the minute they came out, and drove over to my local best buy's to try to get one in my hand only for the people on the phone to lie about them even having ones in the building. My heart was set on getting an FE but I guess I'll get whatever model is first available when they restock.
I contend AMDs RT performance is every bit as good as Nvidia's in truth. I don't think we're seeing what we think we are seeing with AMD RT performance. I think the truth is AMD's RT performance is equal to that of Nvidia. We know this simply be looking at games like RE Village, Callisto Protocol, Avatar (you can't turn off RT here), and many other games. RT performance in the aformentioned games is just fine. So what's really going on here? The answer is it's the game developers choosing to optimize their game's RT performance for Nvidia while ignoring optimizing RT performance for AMD gpus is what I think. Part of the reason for this is Nvidia had RT first but not in all cases. Some of it is deliberate now. Look at Avatar. You know the devs optimized for both gpu brands because RT cannot be shut down in this game. RT performance on AMD cards with this game and many others is just fine. Cyberpunk developers appear to be the most egregious offenders. I suspect they have a deal with Nvidia not to optimize RT for AMD gpus. For that reason I won't buy Phanthom Liberty. I hate deceit. It's an evil world we live in. If I see a game developer not optimizing RT for AMD cards I won't buy that game now. The rest of you should do the same to send a message. They are deliberately doing the gaming community a disservice if my hypothesis is correct.
I've seen several folks talking about Nvidia's power effiency justifying cost for some reason. Ran the numbers on my gaming time (about 6 hours per day) and it'll cost me 1 dollar & 20 cents more per month to have the 7900 xtx vs the 4080 super.
Power efficiency is not just about what it costs in electricity. My 4090 delivers enough FPS to saturate my 1440p ultrawide monitor while being power limited to 60-70% and hovering between 40-60C, even with heavy RT titles such as Cyberpunk. This means the fans spin at the slowest speed and still generate enough airflow to cool everything, so I can have a completely silent PC under load, which is important for me. That’s the real headline news with the 4xxx cards.
@@little_fluffy_cloudsYou've got an unbelievably great card but you can't really compare what you're doing with your 4090 power limit to the rest of the 40 series stack. They would lose too much performance.
Cracking job, Dominic, as always. Your coverage is comprehensive and easy to follow. I love and agree with your analysis in the conclusion segment. This is the third review I've watched today and there are two things that are very noticeable in all three: firstly that the 1% FPS lows of the RTX 4090 usually near and often exceed the average FPS of other cards and a cost per frame calculation on that basis (being a proxy for a stutter-free experience) might be both interesting and useful; second is that the RTX 3090 and 3090 Ti are notably missing from charts of all three. Did you have to agree to not test them? BTW the RTX 4090 is down below £1600 on OCUK. (Yes, I own both a RTX 4090 and a RTX 3090 - and an A770.) Keep up the good work.
Thanks Quentin, appreciate that! I have thought in the past about cost per frame based on 1% lows but it's always a balancing act about how to incorporate it without confusion! Re 3090 Ti, I simply didn't have time to retest it unfortunately, nvidia didn't say anything about it to us and there's no reason we couldn't have included it - the back to back to back launches just took their toll unfortunately
Its so odd that not a single tech reviewer on YT compared the 4080 Super to either the 3090 or 3090 Ti, despite being exactly the kind of cards people want to see tested vs these new cards. Just because its an 80 series doesn't mean it should only get compared to a 3080
Good review as ever. Would love to see 7900 XTX undervolt compared to GeForce cards - i'm not sure if Nvidia's undervolt well but it can massively benefit AMD
We need a 7900xtx vs 4080 super comparison using a 7800x3d CPU!!! So many of us have the 7800x3d cpu and pairing it with an Amd Gpu using Sam will give performance boost, which would widen/close the gap between the two Gpu's.(?) Also, is RT more of a software thing? So that AMD could upgrade the software/firmware of the 7900xtx to improve it's RT abilities in the future? or is it hardware limited in this card and we'd have to wait for the next gen amd to see any real improvements? thanks :) pu using Sam will give performance boost, which would widen/close the gap between the two gpu's.
Definitely check out other reviews, I know hardware unboxed usually test with the 7800x3d, though it is worth pointing out rebar is enabled for all GPUs on my 13900KS system. As for RT, there's always scope for some driver optimisation to improve performance but the differences between AMD and Nvidia here is architectural. You never know what AMD might do for RDNA 4 but I'd always expect the 40 series to be convincingly faster than RX 7000 series for RT
If you buy a 7900xtx get XFX or Sapphire 3 power plug. My 7900xtx is almost on par with a stock 4090 in a lot of games. Especially after an undervolt and or water.
I'm just wondering if "SAM" was turned on how would the performance result would look like, making me lean more to the red side but still not sure cuz i love RT.. this is a hard one ngl
there were a few when I sent that, palit jetstream oc is still in stock www.scan.co.uk/products/palit-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-jetstream-oc-16gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card-10240-core-25
its a pretty good card and I love the 4080, but its just a price cut version with minor tweaks to make the name 'SUPER'. performance is basically no different. I am sure its already sold out. Its easy money for Nvidia really. Imagine having paid 1259 for a non super a year ago, worth about 500 now, if even that.
Can't understand people crying about prices when the 30 series overall cost more. And if you are complaining about the price, i don't know, buy it? Buy the 4070 if you are looking for the same price, it will be better than your last gen graphics card anyway. I know yall don't got a 3080ti or a 3090/3090ti crying about these prices.
Yes for sure, we do already include this in our written reviews but can look at adding it here: www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/nvidia-rtx-4080-super-review/42/
I do not mean to be insulting to Nvidia brand loyalist but I do. 1-3% bump to the 4080 and opening at a lower price that is still £450 the wrong way. I very much feel like AMD and Nvidia are in a fight where they occasionally punch themselves and laugh at the buyers. Nvidia model: Release at insane price, laugh as buyers line up anyways. Lower price, release same card with sticker on it and wait for buyers to line up. The 40 series is such a mess. The 4060 shouldn't even exist, every series of it could easily be stamped a ladder down to be more appropriate and prices lowered by 30-40% and be spot on. As long as this drives the 7900 xt price down , it is a very welcome edition. The real fallout will be our lovely resellers in the UK that still mark this up over the 4080 which currently priced at or more than the msrp for the "super."
Of course they will. Being ignorant must be bliss because my anxiety peaks watching young gamers pay a months salary for a brand instead getting what would best suit them personally lol. Those nike dont make you jump higher but yeah .@@gogopowerrangers6596
Ngl it went out of out of stock so fast I just went and bought a power color spectral 7900xtx might as well since Asus strix white didn’t even come into stock at all and I’m just tired of waiting at this point to me I’m going to try the card out and if it works great then I’ll keep it and wait to see what the Rtx 50 series has to offer
I do like the 4080, but cannot fathom the point of this - they could easily have just dropped the price of the 4080. Must be just clearing stock before the 5000 series. Does anyone want to buy this card? im really curious.
Ima wait. See if amd lowers the 7900 xtx. If they do ill get it over the 4080 super. Unless super goes down in price. It'll be whoever has lower price. Wait another month or 2 and see what happens
So... Ultra Preset + Ray Tracing + 4k = Forget it 🤣🤣 even on a £2k+ 4090 - I have to Upscale from a lower resolution, then insert FAKE Frames just to get it playable 🤔🤔 Sorry - I ain't touching those new games - It just Oozes "DISSAPOINTMENT FACTOR" They should release those "Broken A$$ - Unoptimised" games cheap - then work up to full price as they're patched. Maybe just go play something that works well straight away & pick up that other garbage when Epic gives it away free (by then, with enough patches it should run on a POTATO).
That gigabyte card looks awesome. but its not much of a super new launch. just shows you how much they decided to charge for the first one a year ago and the profit margins
Finally a cheaper 4080. I just swapped my 5 month old hellhound 7900 XTX for this 4080 Super and its nice and clean now. No more insane coil-whine, no more loud fans, no more crashing software (also insane 110c hotspot), it all just works
I just purchased the 4080 super, its my first Nvidia card so im satisfied. I have an important question, will it get along with my Ryzen 5 7600X with integrated graphics?
yeah that'll be no worries - you can always disable integrated graphics but you shouldn't have any issues just sticking the card in, as long you connect the monitor to the card and not the motherboard!
Dominic you must be beat out man, been a heck of a month doing all these cards. These super cards have been mainly a disaster IMO. this is the worst of the bunch too. if you can rate them
take the 4080 oc edition also against it , it out performce the regular 4080 and even in games the 4090 so i have my doubt it would be better then a oc edition whitch also cost more then a super that still cost 1600 so if this super cost 999 and the oc 1600 wouldbe showing already at price there is a reason for why its cheaper then the oc edition
Still with RT the new games give 30-40 fps on the newest and fastest gpus:? Really great :D Not really worth it still. So AMD win here again still., 1-2 more gen and it can be better with RT for both company.
It varies a from game to game, on average most reviews show just a handful of percent difference so it's really not a big deal, especially at 4K which is the target for this class of GPU. But we'll likely update the test system to zen5 later this year
Looking at all other reviewers they ALL have minimum performance gains between 1 to 3%. So appearently all these reviewers have pretty good old 4080 non super cards... What a BS again from nvidia.
Imagine how _well_ these would've been received had they done this from the start and it's not like Nvidia is a "poor" company starving for cash. Far from it. The bad taste left in gamers' mouth still lingers and these will be sitting on the shelf and discounted before you know it . Mark my words.
To be honest even at £959/$999 it's still a massive increase compared to the 3080, I'm not sure how well it would have done if it launched at these prices! It's better but still not particularly amazing
@@KitGuruTech Thats a good point, what price was the 3080 at launch? people see a discount over the 4080, but the real figure is the 3080 ! 4000 series was astronomically marked up.
@@gogopowerrangers65963080 was £649 MSRP. Was admittedly near impossible to get at that price due to crypto and pandemic shortages but it did launch there
I love nvidia, but the 4000 series for me has been such a let down, they are so so expensive. the 3000 series was great, I loved the 2000 series too@@KitGuruTech
Meh, its a year later and its £300 less. They made so much money on the original 4080 its just a cash in before 5000 series. I mean I love nvidia, but they are such a greedy company
If the 3080 with the measly 10gb was such a great deal at 699, then I don’t mind buying this a 999 years later when 699 then equals to 850 with the crazy inflation we have had.
Be sure to check out the written review to see every 1080p, 1440p and 4K benchmark, as well as all our power and efficiency data: bit.ly/47X5XDN
Good review Dominic. Thank you ❤
I purchased the RX 7900 XTX Red Devil about 3-4 months ago for $899.99 and couldn't be more satisfied. With the potential release of the RTX 4080 Super, there's a chance that the RX 7900 XTX could see a price drop to $799.99 or even lower. This will likely intensify the competition in the market.
it did not lol
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I just switched to a 4080 after using a 7900 xtx for a year. I really tried to love that card but every few weeks it would go through this thing where most games would hard crash the driver and freeze within a few seconds for no reason. I would spend hours trouble shooting and then the issue would stop on its own and the crashes would either be much less frequent or stop. Then after a few weeks it would start again. I genuinely hate Nvidia and want to support their competition but my experience with AMDs flag ship product became impossible for me. When the card worked right it performed great and could handle any game I threw at it at high or ultra settings. When it didn't function right I couldn't get more than a few seconds into a game without a total crash. I tried to RMA the card but it was returned to me and allegedly found to have "no defect". I had no choice but to go with a 4080 super. I want to support competition to Nvidia but ARC isn't there yet and AMD just wasn't stable for me. I have a 13900k and 1600w power supply. It should have worked fine with that hardware. I hate giving Nvidia my money but here I am.
7900XTX gets more appealing every month.
Two ways to look at it. Either its a slightly updated and cheaper 4080, or a total waste of time. Either way Nvidia certainly stand proud as having extorted as much money from the public as possible. They sure as toffee arent losing money selling the 4080 SUPER at £959. so the original 4080 at 1250 was one heck of a mark up. 💪🏻💩
They extorted me this morning out of $1000 as I snagged at 4080 super Fe at Best Buy this morning!
The rhetoric online in comments is amazing. They "extorted" money when people voluntarily exchanged their money for a product 😂
Good to see Nvidia have happy users willing to pay for the cards 👌🏻
Me here waiting for the 4090 to return to msrp😅 pray for me.
come to India and buy 4080 at 1300 USD and 4080 super at 1600 USD
Thanks for the power information very useful and done right from slot. Very few do this and it’s so important to me.
5000 series can't get here soon enough, but heres the question - 4000 series went up in price so much, what on earth are they going to charge for the 5000 series? !
They only made $27 billion last year so they'll probably have to start a gofundme or kickstarter.
@@GeordiLaForgery 🤣
Not to mention the rumor that Amd's next gen rdna 4 isn't going to compete with 5000 series high end. 5000 series prices aren't gonna look pretty :/
Which is why I just ended up buying a 7900xt today for 720 lol
bought a 7900xtx at msrp yesterday congrats@@DXcellence718Returns
One can only dream, but hear me out: what if RTX 5000 series was the strategic goal all along? Lets say they intentionally released all high-end 40 series cards at a much higher price than people expected. They know they'll sell out regardless.
Now lets fast-forward to the future: RTX 5090. Releases for £800-1000 MSRP. 40%-60% better than previous gen 4090. Nvidia made bank on the previous gen so they can afford to sell at this price, with room for an even better Ti or Super SKU.
Now Jensen and the team at Nvidia would look like they listened to our pricing complaints, and releasing a reasonably priced top-tier flagship 50 series makes everyone respect them again and most of us would forget the absolute insanity of 40 series prices.
But yeah, back on planet Earth, we are probably looking at £2000+ for a 5090. Nvidia doesn't give a fuck 😂
guess ill be sticking with the 7900 xtx as my intended GPU for my next build (though ive got another year, so plenty of time for something else to come out)
they plan on releasing the SUPER DUPER versions in Spring, another 200 less than this one, same speed, but you get a miniature figure of Jensen Huang in a leather jacket.
The 7900 xtx is a great card. You picked well.
7900xtx is a great card. I just wish Amd would start looking at rt performance more.
@@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xpvery few games to actually utilize rt right now. When time is right AMD will deliver on RT as well
I really enjoyed cyberpunk with rt
Trying to work out how is the 4080 super any improvement? Did they ship the wrong card?
It’s basically the same card for less money. I don’t really get it.
Yes - back in 2022 it should have been this one.
Nvidia realized no one was buying at$1200 so this is just a way to try to save face and drop it $200 US. It’s still far to expensive in Canada…it’s pretty much sold out but they have very lock stock
This makes me very glad I got an 7900 XTX for my build. Much better value for money if you don't care about ray tracing.
I'm from Brazil, and I agree with what you said, NVidia is extracting crumbs from this generation
I am so glad to watch this as i’ve been on the edge to return 7900xtx for 4080 Super
4080 super disappointing
if all ur gonna do is game stuck with the 7900xtx the extra 8gb of vram will help it alot. Esspically in 4k
I also have an xtx. Good card. Smooth work
all I seem to see is a lower price at launch for the 4800 super and then it creeps up to nearly the same prices as a regular 4080 across the brands. On the AMD side of part picker the 7900XTX seems to have taken a price cut on the already less expensive brands at launch of the 4800 supers then remained mostly at these lower prices.
Overall expect no savings from Nvidia cards, the more well known the brand the higher the cost for the name.
quite happy with the 3080 I got cheap, still. will do me a while longer.
Still a very capable card
I got my 3080ti on sale and loving it.
@@johanloots4646don’t blame you. Was a great card. Still is.
Great review, poor nvidia they must be really struggling having to give us these discounts! They only made $27 billion last year!
This was supposed to match the 7900xtx in all titles for rasterization….if they wanted to resell at a lower price they shouldve done that instead
you have my thanks for power consumption graphs, most reviewers don't do that
Thanks, we have a load more in the written article too if you're interested! www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/nvidia-rtx-4080-super-review/38/
@@KitGuruTech Thank you! I'll check it out.
I feel like such a chump. I wasn't able to get one on Nvidia's site literally the minute they came out, and drove over to my local best buy's to try to get one in my hand only for the people on the phone to lie about them even having ones in the building. My heart was set on getting an FE but I guess I'll get whatever model is first available when they restock.
Shows how good the 7900xtx is. 😂
could you do size comparison for the 4080 supers?
I contend AMDs RT performance is every bit as good as Nvidia's in truth. I don't think we're seeing what we think we are seeing with AMD RT performance. I think the truth is AMD's RT performance is equal to that of Nvidia. We know this simply be looking at games like RE Village, Callisto Protocol, Avatar (you can't turn off RT here), and many other games. RT performance in the aformentioned games is just fine. So what's really going on here? The answer is it's the game developers choosing to optimize their game's RT performance for Nvidia while ignoring optimizing RT performance for AMD gpus is what I think. Part of the reason for this is Nvidia had RT first but not in all cases. Some of it is deliberate now. Look at Avatar. You know the devs optimized for both gpu brands because RT cannot be shut down in this game. RT performance on AMD cards with this game and many others is just fine. Cyberpunk developers appear to be the most egregious offenders. I suspect they have a deal with Nvidia not to optimize RT for AMD gpus. For that reason I won't buy Phanthom Liberty. I hate deceit. It's an evil world we live in. If I see a game developer not optimizing RT for AMD cards I won't buy that game now. The rest of you should do the same to send a message. They are deliberately doing the gaming community a disservice if my hypothesis is correct.
Great review Dominic
I've seen several folks talking about Nvidia's power effiency justifying cost for some reason. Ran the numbers on my gaming time (about 6 hours per day) and it'll cost me 1 dollar & 20 cents more per month to have the 7900 xtx vs the 4080 super.
Power efficiency is not just about what it costs in electricity. My 4090 delivers enough FPS to saturate my 1440p ultrawide monitor while being power limited to 60-70% and hovering between 40-60C, even with heavy RT titles such as Cyberpunk. This means the fans spin at the slowest speed and still generate enough airflow to cool everything, so I can have a completely silent PC under load, which is important for me. That’s the real headline news with the 4xxx cards.
@@little_fluffy_cloudsYou've got an unbelievably great card but you can't really compare what you're doing with your 4090 power limit to the rest of the 40 series stack. They would lose too much performance.
Cracking job, Dominic, as always. Your coverage is comprehensive and easy to follow. I love and agree with your analysis in the conclusion segment.
This is the third review I've watched today and there are two things that are very noticeable in all three: firstly that the 1% FPS lows of the RTX 4090 usually near and often exceed the average FPS of other cards and a cost per frame calculation on that basis (being a proxy for a stutter-free experience) might be both interesting and useful; second is that the RTX 3090 and 3090 Ti are notably missing from charts of all three. Did you have to agree to not test them? BTW the RTX 4090 is down below £1600 on OCUK. (Yes, I own both a RTX 4090 and a RTX 3090 - and an A770.)
Keep up the good work.
Thanks Quentin, appreciate that! I have thought in the past about cost per frame based on 1% lows but it's always a balancing act about how to incorporate it without confusion! Re 3090 Ti, I simply didn't have time to retest it unfortunately, nvidia didn't say anything about it to us and there's no reason we couldn't have included it - the back to back to back launches just took their toll unfortunately
@@KitGuruTech Thanks. I just thought it very odd that none of you included the 3090 cards.
Its so odd that not a single tech reviewer on YT compared the 4080 Super to either the 3090 or 3090 Ti, despite being exactly the kind of cards people want to see tested vs these new cards. Just because its an 80 series doesn't mean it should only get compared to a 3080
It’s good to see amd are still boosting there performance through driver updates unlike Nvidia who just release a new model with 1% performance boost
Did nvidia flash the right bios in these cards this time?
thankfully no BIOS shenanigans this time around, just a non-existent performance difference versus the original 4080!
@@KitGuruTech yes, maybe you should flash it with a 4090 bios, see what happens. 😁
you mean msi ?
Good review as ever. Would love to see 7900 XTX undervolt compared to GeForce cards - i'm not sure if Nvidia's undervolt well but it can massively benefit AMD
We need a 7900xtx vs 4080 super comparison using a 7800x3d CPU!!! So many of us have the 7800x3d cpu and pairing it with an Amd Gpu using Sam will give performance boost, which would widen/close the gap between the two Gpu's.(?)
Also, is RT more of a software thing? So that AMD could upgrade the software/firmware of the 7900xtx to improve it's RT abilities in the future? or is it hardware limited in this card and we'd have to wait for the next gen amd to see any real improvements?
thanks :)
pu using Sam will give performance boost, which would widen/close the gap between the two gpu's.
Definitely check out other reviews, I know hardware unboxed usually test with the 7800x3d, though it is worth pointing out rebar is enabled for all GPUs on my 13900KS system.
As for RT, there's always scope for some driver optimisation to improve performance but the differences between AMD and Nvidia here is architectural. You never know what AMD might do for RDNA 4 but I'd always expect the 40 series to be convincingly faster than RX 7000 series for RT
Your vlog is very good. Do you know where to Buy RTX 4080 Super in Muscat? - GCC Gamers
Which 7900XTX did u use for benchmark and which one do u advice to buy
we used the AMD reference model - if you're specifically looking for a 7900 XTX, the powercolor hellhound or sapphire nitro are both very good
If you buy a 7900xtx get XFX or Sapphire 3 power plug. My 7900xtx is almost on par with a stock 4090 in a lot of games. Especially after an undervolt and or water.
I'm just wondering if "SAM" was turned on how would the performance result would look like, making me lean more to the red side but still not sure cuz i love RT.. this is a hard one ngl
Rssizable BAR is enabled for all GPUs on our Intel system
another honest, detailed review. Its a good card, but this makes no sense, and ill be surprised if any etailer keeps to market list prices.
It is in stock at MSRP in the UK currently - for now at least!
@@KitGuruTech I assume you mean the reference card?
there were a few when I sent that, palit jetstream oc is still in stock www.scan.co.uk/products/palit-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4080-super-jetstream-oc-16gb-gddr6x-ray-tracing-graphics-card-10240-core-25
Thanks for review and prices Dominic
There is no price discount. Nvidia is keeping volume low so the scalpers and aib can keep the prices the same or even higher now.
its a pretty good card and I love the 4080, but its just a price cut version with minor tweaks to make the name 'SUPER'. performance is basically no different. I am sure its already sold out. Its easy money for Nvidia really. Imagine having paid 1259 for a non super a year ago, worth about 500 now, if even that.
so much margin on these cards. cut price 4080 a year later, and still making bank
Can't understand people crying about prices when the 30 series overall cost more. And if you are complaining about the price, i don't know, buy it? Buy the 4070 if you are looking for the same price, it will be better than your last gen graphics card anyway. I know yall don't got a 3080ti or a 3090/3090ti crying about these prices.
I wish more mainstream PC channels tested for AI, Blender and other "work" utilities.
Very detailed review Dominic as always. This seems rather disappointing at this stage in the game.
I thought you might have had slightly better results with the new card and the slight improvements to the cores etc. very disappointing. 😢
@kitgurutech Could you add full system power consumption also ...i think it's still relevant.
Yes for sure, we do already include this in our written reviews but can look at adding it here: www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/nvidia-rtx-4080-super-review/42/
Hey thanks i didn't know , i will take a look for sure ! @@KitGuruTech
I'm ready to make a purchase but can't decide between the Sapphire Nitro 7900xtx and the Zotac 4080s...the Zotac is $50 more...
Jensen’s been prick teasing us for years
Welp, looks like I’m keeping my 3080 ftw3 for a bit longer.
Yes makes sense until 5000 series appears
Awww... and I was getting ready to spend some money. Looks like I'll have to wait for the next gen.
I do not mean to be insulting to Nvidia brand loyalist but I do. 1-3% bump to the 4080 and opening at a lower price that is still £450 the wrong way. I very much feel like AMD and Nvidia are in a fight where they occasionally punch themselves and laugh at the buyers.
Nvidia model: Release at insane price, laugh as buyers line up anyways. Lower price, release same card with sticker on it and wait for buyers to line up. The 40 series is such a mess. The 4060 shouldn't even exist, every series of it could easily be stamped a ladder down to be more appropriate and prices lowered by 30-40% and be spot on.
As long as this drives the 7900 xt price down , it is a very welcome edition. The real fallout will be our lovely resellers in the UK that still mark this up over the 4080 which currently priced at or more than the msrp for the "super."
Yes, couldnt agree more.
These will sell, all their cards sell well. its fascinating.
Of course they will. Being ignorant must be bliss because my anxiety peaks watching young gamers pay a months salary for a brand instead getting what would best suit them personally lol. Those nike dont make you jump higher but yeah .@@gogopowerrangers6596
Ngl it went out of out of stock so fast I just went and bought a power color spectral 7900xtx might as well since Asus strix white didn’t even come into stock at all and I’m just tired of waiting at this point to me I’m going to try the card out and if it works great then I’ll keep it and wait to see what the Rtx 50 series has to offer
If you brought the 7900xtx personally I can't understand why are you trying to upgrade already at that point just by the 4090
I do like the 4080, but cannot fathom the point of this - they could easily have just dropped the price of the 4080. Must be just clearing stock before the 5000 series. Does anyone want to buy this card? im really curious.
seems like we have been here a year ago for £300 more.
good review
nice 1.5% diference Nvidia
Amazing card but that price is just depressing.
At Greek stores both GPU's are similarly priced.
Ima wait. See if amd lowers the 7900 xtx. If they do ill get it over the 4080 super. Unless super goes down in price. It'll be whoever has lower price. Wait another month or 2 and see what happens
So... Ultra Preset + Ray Tracing + 4k = Forget it 🤣🤣 even on a £2k+ 4090 - I have to Upscale from a lower resolution, then insert FAKE Frames just to get it playable 🤔🤔 Sorry - I ain't touching those new games - It just Oozes "DISSAPOINTMENT FACTOR" They should release those "Broken A$$ - Unoptimised" games cheap - then work up to full price as they're patched. Maybe just go play something that works well straight away & pick up that other garbage when Epic gives it away free (by then, with enough patches it should run on a POTATO).
That gigabyte card looks awesome. but its not much of a super new launch. just shows you how much they decided to charge for the first one a year ago and the profit margins
300 quid just lobbed off it overnight, and still making bank.
Gigabyte cards are all cracking and failing!! Poor design
Finally a cheaper 4080. I just swapped my 5 month old hellhound 7900 XTX for this 4080 Super and its nice and clean now. No more insane coil-whine, no more loud fans, no more crashing software (also insane 110c hotspot), it all just works
The hellhound was that bad ? I thought they were good cards 😮
Yeah its wild.. Card does perform, but I'd rather not deal with all these problems when I play@@theonlyredspecial
I just purchased the 4080 super, its my first Nvidia card so im satisfied. I have an important question, will it get along with my Ryzen 5 7600X with integrated graphics?
yeah that'll be no worries - you can always disable integrated graphics but you shouldn't have any issues just sticking the card in, as long you connect the monitor to the card and not the motherboard!
XTX for the win
Dominic you must be beat out man, been a heck of a month doing all these cards. These super cards have been mainly a disaster IMO. this is the worst of the bunch too. if you can rate them
Well that was without doubt a let down. Had to watch it twice to see if I missed anything earlier. Clearly not. 🤷🏻♂️
take the 4080 oc edition also against it , it out performce the regular 4080 and even in games the 4090 so i have my doubt it would be better then a oc edition whitch also cost more then a super that still cost 1600 so if this super cost 999 and the oc 1600 wouldbe showing already at price there is a reason for why its cheaper then the oc edition
Still with RT the new games give 30-40 fps on the newest and fastest gpus:? Really great :D Not really worth it still. So AMD win here again still., 1-2 more gen and it can be better with RT for both company.
Those results are 4K and, excluding Alan Wake 2, with no upscaling enabled - you'd probably enable DLSS in a real world use case
Why are you using 13900KS ? 😭😭😭 it’s 10% slower in games compare to 7800X3D
It varies a from game to game, on average most reviews show just a handful of percent difference so it's really not a big deal, especially at 4K which is the target for this class of GPU. But we'll likely update the test system to zen5 later this year
people buy nvidia and not amd to make 25/30 fps with ray tracing ... looool. Marketing breaks every brain
So if you havent bought one of these yet then totally worth it but not sure if tis worth the upgrade.
I think the 7900 XTX seems the better card unless you want Ray tracing.
Looking at all other reviewers they ALL have minimum performance gains between 1 to 3%. So appearently all these reviewers have pretty good old 4080 non super cards...
What a BS again from nvidia.
So underwhelming. Absolutely no point to this product apart from reinvigorating sales before 5000 series.
Dont worry, AMD will save gamers by dropping their 80-series card from $999 to $500
Imagine how _well_ these would've been received had they done this from the start and it's not like Nvidia is a "poor" company starving for cash. Far from it. The bad taste left in gamers' mouth still lingers and these will be sitting on the shelf and discounted before you know it . Mark my words.
Yes I agree completely
To be honest even at £959/$999 it's still a massive increase compared to the 3080, I'm not sure how well it would have done if it launched at these prices! It's better but still not particularly amazing
@@KitGuruTech Thats a good point, what price was the 3080 at launch? people see a discount over the 4080, but the real figure is the 3080 ! 4000 series was astronomically marked up.
@@gogopowerrangers65963080 was £649 MSRP. Was admittedly near impossible to get at that price due to crypto and pandemic shortages but it did launch there
I love nvidia, but the 4000 series for me has been such a let down, they are so so expensive. the 3000 series was great, I loved the 2000 series too@@KitGuruTech
lost me at the price XD
Meh, its a year later and its £300 less. They made so much money on the original 4080 its just a cash in before 5000 series. I mean I love nvidia, but they are such a greedy company
why Nvidia, why?
Nvidia cash in. Same thing different box.
If the 3080 with the measly 10gb was such a great deal at 699, then I don’t mind buying this a 999 years later when 699 then equals to 850 with the crazy inflation we have had.
4080s is good. 7900xtx is trash Raytracing On
Deja vu
Nvidia is becoming Apple!
Sell new product (well new name same product)
And say it's fast now give us money 💰💰💰💰