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Would you guys do a sketch about trying to explain a little-known disability like dyspraxia? I'm thinking something similar to the one about coeliac disease.
CollegeHumor _”... I just hate Martin Luther King (Jr.).”_ spot on with the British accent for that one, I mean if it were 2019. But which Martin Luther would the British hate more? The _Black_ one or the one that started religion? Okay, both (these days). Otherwise, this is no different than scrolling through the bulk of RUclips’s back catalogue, mostly filled with British accents that hate Martin Luther King and Martin Luther. Old TV is current RUclips. Great Stuff.
They were referencing the Friends episode where Ross and Rachael hired a male nanny And the one were Phoebe was cranky when she was pregnant with triplets
I’ve been rewatching Friends and honestly Ross is kinda sexist. He really cares about traditional gender roles and he’s kind of a dick about it. Like with the male nanny thing.
CollegeHumor old CH is like classic snl, new stand can’t stand up to the old stuff. Just keep doing your thing, new CH really getting into their own groove lately
If anyone has learned from this lesson, it's CH. I can't scroll past some of old CH's thumbnails without cringing any more. I really wish they'd change them.
@@dropout I know this is a joke but some "retard" jokes I come across online were made suprisingly recently (less than five years ago) and also on otherwise "woke" sites. I knew that "retard" jokes weren't okay in about 1994, pretty much the moment when I knew they existed.
@@camelopardalis84 just because something is wrong to say in public or directly to a persons face, doesnt mean its not funny. Ive heard racists jokes and sexist jokes from both sides of the spectrum and I find some of it funny in context. This doesnt make me racist or sexist. I recognize the low brow humor for what it is and only share it with those that i know wont be offended by it. The problem is, people have forgoten that words are nothing but words, and its up to us weather we let it affect our daily lives.
No one has "forgotten that words are nothing but words." That's an absolutely ridiculous and meaningless statement. We use words to communicate, because they mean things (well.. except when we formulate them into lazy platitudes to make ourselves feel better about being amused by cruelty, but even that communicates *something*).
While rewatching a lot of my favorite shows, I've definitely noticed this too. But one show that really holds up is *Malcolm in the Middle* . They address race and even homosexuality fairly respectful and progressively
Reese and Malcolm trying desperately to be supportive with no real idea how when told the other one is gay is amazing. Takes it away a bit that they're so 'ew gross' about it when they find out the other thinks they're gay, but still pretty sweet.
Its treatment of women doesn't hold up at all though. Personally I had to stop watching after (edit: spoilers . . .) we found out Hal lied to Lois and said he'd gotten a vasectomy when he hadn't, and it was played off as no big deal (she's only mad for like 5 minutes). Like he was gonna risk her health (physical and mental) without her knowledge and that doesn't make him the villain? Nope
Was worried I would have the same problem with ATLA when my gf introduced me to it recently, even though it was a kid's show. No such problem! The paralyzed kid has a dope flying wheelchair; Toph is even cooler than normal Earthbenders and her disability is a strength, not always a weakness for her; Zuko's story is a powerful one about abuse and forgiveness with Iroh; and the message about the Fire Nation's imperialism still holds up. Diverse cast, tons of strong female characters, and I've never heard the words "Mary Sue" uttered once. 10/10 gonna watch LoK sometime soon
Mfs were cooking a guy on twitter for rightly ppunting out that if ATLA came out today, a hoard of people would call it woke garbage because a blind girl can not only fight well, she fights better than most characters and helped train the MC This isn't being said as a ''the west has fallen'' honestly the kinds of people the tweet was describing DEFINITELY existed in the 2000s It's more about how the internet has given just about every mf a platform for better AND worse Before guys like that could only reach their own little toxic groups now everyone has to hear about them. Honestly a bummer as black dude and in general how often slang used in our communities gets appropriated and then overused and later misused to the point where it means something entirely different and then nothing at all. Especially sucks for actually super important words like triggered or groomer or porn addict Honestly one of my biggest red flags are the mfs who use 'woke' un ironically Take a rare leap to indulge them and you quickly learn everything released in the last 4000 years is app woke now:/ It's not far off from those dude bros who are super insecure about their sexuality to the point where showing basic human emotions or interests in anything is considered Truly, the most stable and unserious people to ever walk the earth
Also Korra isn't prefect but the internet did what it did and kinda overesaggerated it's problems a ton. The upside means you're in for a much more fun time than you ever thought was possicle It's pretry much a meme in the fan base in the modern day for someone to pick up Korra and expecting it to be bad only to be Utterly blown away
@@bordomsdeadly I disagree. It stumbles a bit but Korra herself does grow more mature and even in her more jerky moments she at least has a reason. Katara WAS treated pretty badly back in the day.
@@theradionicrevival8068 Pretty much. Korra is a well rounded character who makes mistakes. Many of the people saying "shows like Avatar did it better" only say that because they grew up with it.
@Zandeus the way Chandler handles people seeing him as gay, his father's gender. All things considered though, Friends holds up well compared to other older shows. I absolutely adore the show, actually.
Savannah Burris, What makes you think they're truly wrong now? Maybe our idea of right and wrong is still wrong; well of course it is, It's an idea through subjective morals which are rationalized as okay. How do you know what you know you know is really what's to know, you know? ;) "The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Daniel J. Boorstin.
@@saints360row I think that because im literally a gay person?? It's a little uncomfortable to watch Chandler seemingly misgender a trans person constantly.
To be fair, there WAS a person of color on Friends, who wasn't a token stereotype! Aisha Tyler played a doctor of paleontology who Ross dates... for 9 episodes... in a show that ran for 10 years... *coughs nervously*
@@SurprisinglyDeep Well that's not necessarily offensive. Inconsiderate perhaps. But they didn't get anything wrong with their casting choice as individuals, they just should've been more diverse.
@@harpersmith1400 Very true. Like if they'd just added a supporting character or re-occuring guest star that was a person of colour, the show could've been even better than it was
Yeahhhhh that Marry a Prince show was the actual premise of an actual show that happened not enough years ago. Pretty sure it was called I Wanna Marry Harry and it was, you know ... that.
Lol same! I already knew about the sexism and racism in it when I watched it back when it came out... but atleast I don't make excuses for it so I feel like I can watch it still.
the office still holds up in 2019, most of the worst jokes come from michael who is portrayed as a huge idiot that no one in the office can stand. thats part of what makes the cringe humour so good, its bc it would absolutely not be good if people said those things in real life, and its very much making fun of people who act like michael. there are some parts of the show that are a bit dated (namely the shows treatment of meredith and michaels abusive relationship with jan), but pretty much all the gay and black jokes punch up, not down.
Yeah, even more recent sitcoms. The Big Bang Theory is built entirely around a group of problematic incels who's constant misogyny and ineptitude in social situations is played for laughs because "guys look they super smart and have money, which means they can't be bad people!" Like, it got better in later seasons with Burnadette and Amy being introduced and becoming friends with Penny... Amy was just as nerdy as Sheldon but wasn't as completely socially inept and helped Sheldon become a little less obnoxious, and Amy and Burnadette both being overachievers helped inspire Penny to focus more on her real aspirations instead of just working in food service for the rest of her life, but like... Still.
If there is any "old show" that still holds up today it would be All in the Family. Take any episode and we either still have that issue today or some version of it.
Especially that one episode where everyone is falling unconscious at the cookout because they got roofied or something. Totally not problematic at all.
@@christopherballero866 Tbf Cracked did a part about this, how with their ages and when the parents started being into each other... well the wife was something like 16 when the husband was early 20's when they first got together. it is a lil creepy.
I never got that show. Their 'Harry' looked nothing like the real one, so unless they start the show off by talking about how every woman competing was face-blind, how would anyone believe the set up?
Interviews with the women later on revealed that literally all of them knew it wasn’t him but they were told to pretend. Reality shows are fake! But that isn’t too surprising lol.
On one hand, I think it's a good thing that shows from twenty years ago don't hold up at all- it means we've progressed past that point and should celebrate how much more we understand now. On the other- it is NOT a hot take to think Ronald is human garbage and anyone who doesn't know that through sheer hindsight is on thin ice.
Still didn't respect when they said no, he kept on, which is not respecting consent. When you keep on after being denied, you are going against consent.
I think the James Bond movies until the 90s are much worse.. I don't know which movie it was but in one of them Sean Connery's Bond practically rapes the girl in a barn, ignoring her saying "no" repeatedly and trying to physically keep him away from her.
Yeah I realize now that Barney is a predatory creep who deceives and coerces women into sleeping with him. And it's just a big joke like, oh haha you do you Barney! 😖
@@chrisfarmer6893 it's not the same thing. viewers are supposed to notice that stuff right away and not to empathize. He IS a creep and a psycho, a bad person on most aspects, that's why he gets slapped so often (the slap bet) and the girls of the group often say that he's gross/disgusting and they always act like they don't trust him, and everybody smiles when the bad karma strikes him, etc.. he's a bad guy (with a few redeeming features), kinda like Amir V Blumenfeld. Amir used racial slurs (vs black/arabic/jewish/asian ppl and muslims), calls women 'bitch', is mean, disrespectful and homophobic but Jake notices it and often calls him out. in those old tv shows, instead, some bad behaviour is considered normal (both by the audience and by the other characters) and nobody calls nobody out
@@chrisfarmer6893 and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I'm ashamed of liking Jake and Amir or HIMYM. those shows are great, but we should not forget that these are characters, when they were written the author didn't want us to empathize with their bad side but we're supposed to dislike it. just like there are Villains who are racist, evil, foul mouthed, abusive etc... King Jeoffrey for example is very sexist, Ramsey Bolton is a rapist , and Calvin Candie (from Django) is racist, but it's allowed because they are evil. IMHO Amir and Barney are interesting characters because they ARE villains, but not antagonists. I hope that we won't have to say goodbye to such kind of characters, and to the villains because of PC culture. Imagine a world where a TV/movie villain can't be racist nor homophobic nor offensive in any kind. BORING
South Park very much has this problem, and I’m tired of people claiming it doesn’t. I know it’s an extremely beloved show that makes some good points, but many of the episodes from the ‘90s and 2000s are just painful to sit through with my 2020s sensibilities.
People rag on Friends for apparently being homophobic, but seem to forget it was one of, if not the first mainstream show to feature a lesbian wedding.
Which Ross continually crapped on and tried to mine for comedy and “sympathy” for the rest of the series as well as continued to make jabs at his former partner and her wife
The characters did, but the show itself treated it respectfully. Susan and Carol are often shown to be the most stable and loving relationship while Ross is a romantic failure.
Carol's parents refused to attend the wedding, and she almost called it off, but Ross convinced her to push through. He also walked her down the aisle in her father's place. Apart from a few jokes, the show treats the wedding and their entire marriage as legitimate. The female pastor even stated that it made God happy when *any* two people come together in love, and this was treated completely seriously by the show. Friends is definitely problematic in certain parts, but it's far less homophobic than people remember
@@Codemarla that was the joke. The joke was: Ross can be even less functional in a relationship than 2 lesbians (that were supposed to be the disfunctional ones in society's eyes)
Looking back on it, Married With Children did pretty well. There are cheap fat jokes but none of the characters dishing out insults are considered aspirational figures, it's more like an arena where everyone takes shots at everyone rather than people on their high horse kicking people while they're down.
Okay... Not telling you all how to do your things... But "Doesn't Hold Up" a panel show where you guys talk about classic episodes of shows from back in the day seems like a sure fire hit.
I remember a few years back realizing that the treatment of cross dressers/transsexuals in that show, specifically Chandler’s dad being the butt of jokes simply because he dressed like a woman (I can’t recall if he was a cross dresser or she was a transsexual), would probably age worse and worse as time went on heh Still a funny show though. I’d say the vast majority of the humor is largely inoffensive. I mean, I’d watch that shit regardless, but I think most would be cool with it as well.
I don't recall gay jokes in Ghostbusters. Dick jokes, yes, but gay jokes? Can't recall any. If you could give an example, I'd appreciate it because I'm drawing a blank.
1:30-1:38 The timing just before the "Could you BE any GAYER?" line and Raph about to speak and his reaction after that was just perfect. That line was delivered so well too.
Man, I just had this happen to me with rewatching Danny Phantom; I was actually surprised at how well it held up, and it did a great job at being what it was, but maaaaan that small handful of "effeminate man/crossdressing" jokes were awkward.
Same reason trying to binge watch collegehumor sketches without accidentally stumbling on one older than 5-6 year ago is a challenge. People really don't believe me when i say it's good now
Me: I wanna watch some old Doctor Who episodes. Adric: If she breathes, she's a THOT! Me: Actually I think I'll just watch Christopher Eccleston dance for the 50th time. Actually, Doctor Who was always kinda progressive for its time. There's a few cringy lines about foreigners and women, but they always favored left wing themes. The first showrunner was even the first female producer at the BBC.
A couple years ago I started watching the show "Would I Lie to You?" (a British panel show). It started in 2007 and is still on the air. I started out on the first episode and watched them all chronologically over the course of about a month. One thing that stood out was the number of gay jokes at the beginning of the show that slowly faded away over time. Watching was an interesting experience, because I effectively got to fast forward through the last fifteen years of the evolution of society's humor.
Yeah, like that time they made a video about having a shower with your girlfriend, which is super centered on their cis male hetero audience, which evidently is not inclusive at all... which is not great, but, you know... ...you know, is nowhere near as bad as half the stuff that passed as comedy in TV shows.
@@TiagoMorbusSa I'm seeing your comments everywhere. And wow! You're seriously the perfect example of a corrupted child. Let me guess... below 23, female... and American... Am I right?
@@AlkisenSuper that's because it's easy to get laughs out of jabs at low hanging fruit. And using subtle racism/sexism/homophobia in your jokes is easy.
@@te1327 Nope, you're missing the point entirely. There were really clever parodies and hilarious surrealist/absurd humor back in their old days. Maybe it wasn't always PC, but comedy doesn't have the recquirement to be PC anyway. At the very least you gotta agree Jake & Amir was classic.
This is why Spongebob has always been a superior show. I mean, the only time they were actually racist it was against Texans so... it doesn't count... uh... maybe...
@@shotgun6X there's this whole part of an episode where they try to get Sandy to be mad and they're like "what am I? - stupid! - no, I'm Texas! - what's the difference?!" or some stuffs like that
How about the episode where Mr Krabbs wants to be 'cool' so him, spongebob and patrick break into a house that apparently they 'hit all the time' to steal underwear. TWIST its Mr Krabbs moms house!! Even THEN that episode made me go WTF!
@@Raven2389 that was hilarious and wasn't really encouraging it if anything it was pointing out the fact that the women you objectify are mothers and daughters if you don't care enough about them as people
Funny thing, the ONLY 90's sitcom I remember featuring a cast member using the N-word...was Spin City. Where Carter Heywood, who was a black, gay man who was generally portrayed in a very positive light, was making a point about racism...he used it as the punchline to a very cynical joke with the setup "what do you call a live-saving surgeon who just happens to be black?" And the scene wasn't played for laughs. The problem with the joke in this video, is that a mass-appeal sitcom on basic cable in the 90s wouldn't be allowed to use the N-word for a cheap joke, due to Network restrictions on course language. Even Seinfeld didn't do it, what they did is had Jerry get in trouble for saving the f-word - which was bleeped.
"I loved this movie as a kid! We found it for sale cause it's kind of old and- oh that's brownface. That is straight up a white man covered in brown makeup with a fake accent"
Yes and no. It's still my fave show of all time but there were eps that definitely had problematic lessons and content. Most of the classic episodes that are remembered seem to be holding up pretty good, at least on my last rewatch.
Usually when the characters were sexist/mysogynistic we were supposed to laugh at the characters who expressed it or at others' reactions (like in the episode about the male nanny). It's a different story about trans/homophobia though.
It's an impressive resistance to cognitive dissonance that allows someone to rant angrily into the void of the internet about how sensitive 'SJWs' are just because some minorities point out some 90's shows are problematic. I wonder if they feel attacked.
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Would you guys do a sketch about trying to explain a little-known disability like dyspraxia? I'm thinking something similar to the one about coeliac disease.
@@aoifem4296 interesting idea! thanks for the suggestion Aoife!
Aoife M My cousin has dyspraxia
if you guys made a cartoon from the dimension 20 fantasy high audio you'd for real make a killing
CollegeHumor _”... I just hate Martin Luther King (Jr.).”_ spot on with the British accent for that one, I mean if it were 2019. But which Martin Luther would the British hate more? The _Black_ one or the one that started religion? Okay, both (these days).
Otherwise, this is no different than scrolling through the bulk of RUclips’s back catalogue, mostly filled with British accents that hate Martin Luther King and Martin Luther.
Old TV is current RUclips.
Great Stuff.
They were referencing the Friends episode where Ross and Rachael hired a male nanny
And the one were Phoebe was cranky when she was pregnant with triplets
Wasn't it more about when Rachel was pregnant? Since it was Ronald's (Ross's) baby?
I was thinking of the episode where Chandler thinks taking baths is "gay".
Domihork
No, Emma was already born. That’s why they were looking for nanny’s.
I’ve been rewatching Friends and honestly Ross is kinda sexist. He really cares about traditional gender roles and he’s kind of a dick about it. Like with the male nanny thing.
Chandler- “Could you BE any gayer.”
So no one told you life was gonna be this way
👏👏👏👏
@@joshwheeler6502 Your job's a joke, you're broke
Your love life's D.O.A
@@daninbox It's like you're always stuck in second gear...
@@WWEVoice101 When it hasn't been you day, your month, or even you year
@@joshwheeler6502 lol
hearing Brennan say "could you be any gayer" gives me life
My life is now complete!
I love the constant laugh track that plays even before they make a joke
They make jokes?
@@theyearwas1473
Yes, on par with The Big Bang Theory 👌🏼
@@KodakYarr Pretty much every sitcom with a laugh track or live-studio audience.
@@justinbryan6249 except how i met your mother
@@miriyumyum3590 Does that show have a laugh track or a live-studio audience?
I liked sci-fi shows in the 90's. They hold up well because they were all about inclusiveness and acceptance. Picard never dropped the n-bomb on TNG.
That would have been a weird episode. I also think Buffy holds up.
@@jonathanstern5537 Buffy is amazing
Jean Luke pinches Beverley's butt and says "there ya go, baby" right before they engage the borg for the first time.
TREKKIE UTOPIANISTS UNITE
There was that episode where they portrayed an entire black planet as tribals though
Yeah, it must suck if that happens. Luckily, my favorite show, the cosby show, is a timeless classic
You can't go wrong with the Cos.
That man will be funny forever.
TBF the show itself isn't problematic and was very progressive. But still, best not watch it anymore
@Michael Freed lol
Yeah the show itself wasn’t bad but I couldn’t watch it without thinking about him
I don't understand, Ronald is the bigger chum why doesn't he just eat the others?
scientists still study this
Great Futurama reference :D
Futurama FTW
Perhaps they’re saving that for the sweeps.
Best reference ever
College humor in 2019 roasting friends for not holding up, ha
look we WILL throw stones in our house made of precious and fragile glass
CollegeHumor old CH is like classic snl, new stand can’t stand up to the old stuff. Just keep doing your thing, new CH really getting into their own groove lately
If anyone has learned from this lesson, it's CH. I can't scroll past some of old CH's thumbnails without cringing any more. I really wish they'd change them.
Friends sucked. Lame white bread corny show.
nuksucao you mean furry force
This feels kinda awkward since college humor used to use the same type of humor.
alright, listen, we all said A LOT of things back in 200...1-10
@@dropout I know this is a joke but some "retard" jokes I come across online were made suprisingly recently (less than five years ago) and also on otherwise "woke" sites. I knew that "retard" jokes weren't okay in about 1994, pretty much the moment when I knew they existed.
@@camelopardalis84 lol get over bro. It's not a big deal.
@@camelopardalis84 just because something is wrong to say in public or directly to a persons face, doesnt mean its not funny. Ive heard racists jokes and sexist jokes from both sides of the spectrum and I find some of it funny in context. This doesnt make me racist or sexist. I recognize the low brow humor for what it is and only share it with those that i know wont be offended by it. The problem is, people have forgoten that words are nothing but words, and its up to us weather we let it affect our daily lives.
No one has "forgotten that words are nothing but words." That's an absolutely ridiculous and meaningless statement. We use words to communicate, because they mean things (well.. except when we formulate them into lazy platitudes to make ourselves feel better about being amused by cruelty, but even that communicates *something*).
While rewatching a lot of my favorite shows, I've definitely noticed this too. But one show that really holds up is *Malcolm in the Middle* . They address race and even homosexuality fairly respectful and progressively
Loved that show!
Reese and Malcolm trying desperately to be supportive with no real idea how when told the other one is gay is amazing. Takes it away a bit that they're so 'ew gross' about it when they find out the other thinks they're gay, but still pretty sweet.
Its treatment of women doesn't hold up at all though. Personally I had to stop watching after (edit: spoilers
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we found out Hal lied to Lois and said he'd gotten a vasectomy when he hadn't, and it was played off as no big deal (she's only mad for like 5 minutes). Like he was gonna risk her health (physical and mental) without her knowledge and that doesn't make him the villain? Nope
@@hopewilson7918 Yah true. A lot of great shows have that problem in hindsight. Though I don't think it's the worst. It isn't How I Met Your Mother
able bodied actor playing a disabled person is not ok
Was worried I would have the same problem with ATLA when my gf introduced me to it recently, even though it was a kid's show. No such problem! The paralyzed kid has a dope flying wheelchair; Toph is even cooler than normal Earthbenders and her disability is a strength, not always a weakness for her; Zuko's story is a powerful one about abuse and forgiveness with Iroh; and the message about the Fire Nation's imperialism still holds up. Diverse cast, tons of strong female characters, and I've never heard the words "Mary Sue" uttered once. 10/10 gonna watch LoK sometime soon
If you haven’t watched LoK yet…..
You’ll be pretty disappointed.
Mfs were cooking a guy on twitter for rightly ppunting out that if ATLA came out today, a hoard of people would call it woke garbage because a blind girl can not only fight well, she fights better than most characters and helped train the MC
This isn't being said as a ''the west has fallen'' honestly the kinds of people the tweet was describing DEFINITELY existed in the 2000s
It's more about how the internet has given just about every mf a platform for better AND worse
Before guys like that could only reach their own little toxic groups now everyone has to hear about them.
Honestly a bummer as black dude and in general how often slang used in our communities gets appropriated and then overused and later misused to the point where it means something entirely different and then nothing at all.
Especially sucks for actually super important words like triggered or groomer or porn addict
Honestly one of my biggest red flags are the mfs who use 'woke' un ironically
Take a rare leap to indulge them and you quickly learn everything released in the last 4000 years is app woke now:/
It's not far off from those dude bros who are super insecure about their sexuality to the point where showing basic human emotions or interests in anything is considered
Truly, the most stable and unserious people to ever walk the earth
Also Korra isn't prefect but the internet did what it did and kinda overesaggerated it's problems a ton.
The upside means you're in for a much more fun time than you ever thought was possicle
It's pretry much a meme in the fan base in the modern day for someone to pick up Korra and expecting it to be bad only to be Utterly blown away
@@bordomsdeadly I disagree. It stumbles a bit but Korra herself does grow more mature and even in her more jerky moments she at least has a reason.
Katara WAS treated pretty badly back in the day.
@@theradionicrevival8068 Pretty much. Korra is a well rounded character who makes mistakes.
Many of the people saying "shows like Avatar did it better" only say that because they grew up with it.
When you're British and know that chums is a real show on saturday morning telly
Yes! My, cat deeley was fine...
It was British parody of Friends on SM:TV.
Ant, Dec and Cat. Which one’s the gooseberry.
okay Wesley Snipes.
It's totally OK to enjoy old shows that don't hold up to modern standards as long as you recognize that they are problematic in the present.
@Zandeus the way Chandler handles people seeing him as gay, his father's gender. All things considered though, Friends holds up well compared to other older shows. I absolutely adore the show, actually.
Savannah Burris, What makes you think they're truly wrong now? Maybe our idea of right and wrong is still wrong; well of course it is, It's an idea through subjective morals which are rationalized as okay. How do you know what you know you know is really what's to know, you know? ;)
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge" -Daniel J. Boorstin.
@@saints360row I think that because im literally a gay person?? It's a little uncomfortable to watch Chandler seemingly misgender a trans person constantly.
@@SavannahBurris
None of the things you said are problematic...
@@mikay7866 how. how is misgendering trans people NOT problematic
The "That was my whole identity!" line is deep bc that is the reason won't accept criticism abt their entertainment choices.
Now I wanna know what that "I just hate MLK" line is parodying
It's something George from Seinfeld would say... But then he was supposed to be a horrible person so it wouldn't make sense that they'd parody him
The lines are not necessarily parodying a specific line from a specific show. It's more 90s TV comedy in general.
@@Theduckwebcomics They were doing Friends, but it DOES sound exactly like a George line on paper.
@@CaptainDoomsday What season & episode? I'm curious.
@PrimePal Yeah it literally won a GLAAD award for that episode 😂 First thing I thought of lmao
Too early to find interesting comments, too dumb to post one myself...
classic dilemma
liana sajith I can relate.
...your love life's DOA!
"When your favorite old shows dont hold up"
The last Airbender can't relate
Because it's an extremely well made show that won't age even in three centuries. Never seen legend of Korra but heard it is very good.
Aht! There are problems in avatar that are simply comparatively nothing when you look at any other show of the same time period.
@@xxselenaxx2142 In some ways Star Wars is the same. Thing is they're mild enough that new material was able to update it without any problems
"There are like 0 people of color in here"
"Noo there's one in this episode"
me: it's gonna be the janitor
"You must be the janitor!"
FUCKIn-
To be fair, there WAS a person of color on Friends, who wasn't a token stereotype! Aisha Tyler played a doctor of paleontology who Ross dates... for 9 episodes... in a show that ran for 10 years... *coughs nervously*
So let's just ignore the Myriad of shows fully casted by people of color
Everyone, everyone. Perfect show. Still holds up. Two words:
Golden. Girls.
The only issue is I don't think there were any people of colour on that show, not even any "tokens"
@@SurprisinglyDeep Well that's not necessarily offensive. Inconsiderate perhaps. But they didn't get anything wrong with their casting choice as individuals, they just should've been more diverse.
@@harpersmith1400 Very true. Like if they'd just added a supporting character or re-occuring guest star that was a person of colour, the show could've been even better than it was
Two words.
Speed.
Racer.
also two words
Father. Ted
again
Fawlty. towers
Please turn back to the Amazing Welsh Broiling Tournament.
*It's so hot.*
@@dropout
You will.....
YOU.....WILL.
Now I need my notification ringtone to be Brennan saying "Could you BE any gayer?!"
The secretary thing is based on an episode where that actually happened but it was a babysitter
Yeahhhhh that Marry a Prince show was the actual premise of an actual show that happened not enough years ago. Pretty sure it was called I Wanna Marry Harry and it was, you know ... that.
Yes I remembered. It’s so early 2000s reality tv and Wasn’t it produce by Ryan Seacrest or something.
Im going to miss the office so much
[tries to type then deletes office theme in 'dun dun dun' format 3x in a row]
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Lol same! I already knew about the sexism and racism in it when I watched it back when it came out... but atleast I don't make excuses for it so I feel like I can watch it still.
the office still holds up in 2019, most of the worst jokes come from michael who is portrayed as a huge idiot that no one in the office can stand. thats part of what makes the cringe humour so good, its bc it would absolutely not be good if people said those things in real life, and its very much making fun of people who act like michael. there are some parts of the show that are a bit dated (namely the shows treatment of meredith and michaels abusive relationship with jan), but pretty much all the gay and black jokes punch up, not down.
@@Bigcatthief HOLY MOLY YOU DID IT
"I'm not Racist I just Hate MLK"
I fucking died from the delivery
Let's take it back to the 50s and 60s people. When racism, sexism, bigotry, hatred, homophobic lead characters...
*Let's just forget I said anything.*
Ahyyyyy
Ketchup, ahy. Ice cream, ahy. Ketchup and ice cream, whoah
@Little Oggie Agreed. All of it.
My 3 Sons, and Leave it to Beaver hold up better than Big Bang theory and Friends.
@Little Oggie
The mid 70s? There were a few shows with white women as leads before then
Yeah, even more recent sitcoms. The Big Bang Theory is built entirely around a group of problematic incels who's constant misogyny and ineptitude in social situations is played for laughs because "guys look they super smart and have money, which means they can't be bad people!"
Like, it got better in later seasons with Burnadette and Amy being introduced and becoming friends with Penny... Amy was just as nerdy as Sheldon but wasn't as completely socially inept and helped Sheldon become a little less obnoxious, and Amy and Burnadette both being overachievers helped inspire Penny to focus more on her real aspirations instead of just working in food service for the rest of her life, but like... Still.
I don’t think you’re allowed to use all that audio from Friends without permission.
Wert's Channel you’re
Whatcha talkin bout?
It's from C•h•u•m•s ;)
If there is any "old show" that still holds up today it would be All in the Family. Take any episode and we either still have that issue today or some version of it.
That's a weird way to spell Batman: The Animated Series.
And a very weird way to spell M*A*S*H.
Never seen LOST spelled that way.
@@saints360row show yes, movie no
@@Rougarou99 Because no one was talking about that show.
Futurama will ALWAYS hold up. It was ahead of it's time..
O-O
I’t’s time
'Its a minor error lady... I mean we're space aliens! Its a miracle we can even understand English''
1001 years ahead of its time give or take.
It's hammer time?
Greatest show of all time
I'm going to go watch a TV series that will always hold up extremely well: The Cosby Show
Hahaha. This comment made me giggle.
Especially that one episode where everyone is falling unconscious at the cookout because they got roofied or something. Totally not problematic at all.
@@patrickt.6492 It didn't make them pass out. It made them horny.
@Zandeus not the show itself but the star of the show
@@christopherballero866 Tbf Cracked did a part about this, how with their ages and when the parents started being into each other... well the wife was something like 16 when the husband was early 20's when they first got together. it is a lil creepy.
I like how at 3:22 the CC just says "Man in blue laughs" lol. Like they didn't know Raph's name.
The insults at friends are so thinly veiled, I love it
There was actually a reality show where they got an actor who looked vaguely like Prince Harry called I Wanna Marry Harry. Only four episodes aired
I never got that show. Their 'Harry' looked nothing like the real one, so unless they start the show off by talking about how every woman competing was face-blind, how would anyone believe the set up?
Interviews with the women later on revealed that literally all of them knew it wasn’t him but they were told to pretend. Reality shows are fake! But that isn’t too surprising lol.
I prefer Russ and Rebecca on Chums.
“I’ll be here always!”
When the rain falls in Wales
On one hand, I think it's a good thing that shows from twenty years ago don't hold up at all- it means we've progressed past that point and should celebrate how much more we understand now.
On the other- it is NOT a hot take to think Ronald is human garbage and anyone who doesn't know that through sheer hindsight is on thin ice.
I feel like we haven't progressed based on some of these comments.
@@theperson8539 Who's Ronald?
@@justinbryan6249 Wha?
@@theperson8539 The original commenter mentioned something about some guy named Ronald, and that he was human garbage.
@@justinbryan6249 I dunno, Ronald Reagan fits the bill.
Really hurt me to watch some old Fresh Prince episodes and see Will not understand what no means.
I mean if anything he was just annoying, he never really crossed a line
Still didn't respect when they said no, he kept on, which is not respecting consent. When you keep on after being denied, you are going against consent.
I'll get the lawyers on the phone.
I think the James Bond movies until the 90s are much worse.. I don't know which movie it was but in one of them Sean Connery's Bond practically rapes the girl in a barn, ignoring her saying "no" repeatedly and trying to physically keep him away from her.
It's a show, it's a character and it was the 90s,they didn't care then, and you care to much now
love the fact that you posted this on the 25th anniversary for friends
Anyone else expecting to hear Anc and Dec when he said Chums.
matrixrory Yass!
CH likes this message? They get an Ant and Dec reference?
Oh god I miss Chums so much
Yes
This is how I feel about “How I Met Your Mother”
Nah, I still love himym (so long as I don’t watch the last five mins of the last episode)
Yeah I realize now that Barney is a predatory creep who deceives and coerces women into sleeping with him. And it's just a big joke like, oh haha you do you Barney! 😖
@@chrisfarmer6893 Yeah exactly, agreed. It's awful on the rewatch.
@@chrisfarmer6893 it's not the same thing. viewers are supposed to notice that stuff right away and not to empathize. He IS a creep and a psycho, a bad person on most aspects, that's why he gets slapped so often (the slap bet) and the girls of the group often say that he's gross/disgusting and they always act like they don't trust him, and everybody smiles when the bad karma strikes him, etc.. he's a bad guy (with a few redeeming features), kinda like Amir V Blumenfeld. Amir used racial slurs (vs black/arabic/jewish/asian ppl and muslims), calls women 'bitch', is mean, disrespectful and homophobic but Jake notices it and often calls him out. in those old tv shows, instead, some bad behaviour is considered normal (both by the audience and by the other characters) and nobody calls nobody out
@@chrisfarmer6893 and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that I'm ashamed of liking Jake and Amir or HIMYM. those shows are great, but we should not forget that these are characters, when they were written the author didn't want us to empathize with their bad side but we're supposed to dislike it. just like there are Villains who are racist, evil, foul mouthed, abusive etc... King Jeoffrey for example is very sexist, Ramsey Bolton is a rapist , and Calvin Candie (from Django) is racist, but it's allowed because they are evil. IMHO Amir and Barney are interesting characters because they ARE villains, but not antagonists.
I hope that we won't have to say goodbye to such kind of characters, and to the villains because of PC culture. Imagine a world where a TV/movie villain can't be racist nor homophobic nor offensive in any kind. BORING
"This was your entire identity, growing up?"
Raph delivered that line like a boss.
"Chums" was brilliant! Ant and Dec and Cat Deeley? Best part of Saturday mornings on ITV :D
YES!
I think... im gonna kiss her
So glad someone else thought about it to!
The internet: Your favorite older show is problematic!
Me: I can't hear you over the sound of the F.R.I.E.N.D.S. opening credits.
Tbh, the opening song was probably the best part of the show. That and a few classic Phebe lines.
"I'll be there always, when the rains fall on Wales"
"Too bad mister, that's just how women are" delivered so straight is killing me
South Park very much has this problem, and I’m tired of people claiming it doesn’t. I know it’s an extremely beloved show that makes some good points, but many of the episodes from the ‘90s and 2000s are just painful to sit through with my 2020s sensibilities.
I love how everyone knows what show they're talking about
When you're watching an older episode of Always Sunny in Philadelphia and Carmen shows up
I re-watched Superbad recently and was kind of caught off-guard by how insanely horned-up every line in it is.
@ULGROTHA
The guy's fake ID says "McLovin" that was the thing I always remembered from Superbad.
I've never seen Superbad and know nothing about it, but... is being horny considered offensive now?
It's like going too far back into your faves Twitter...
This happens to me a LOT with movies from the 80s and 90s. Specially THAT kind of "comedy". College Humor did a sketch about that too.
When the subtitles refer to the two as *man in blue shirt* and *man in red shirt*
People rag on Friends for apparently being homophobic, but seem to forget it was one of, if not the first mainstream show to feature a lesbian wedding.
Which Ross continually crapped on and tried to mine for comedy and “sympathy” for the rest of the series as well as continued to make jabs at his former partner and her wife
The characters did, but the show itself treated it respectfully. Susan and Carol are often shown to be the most stable and loving relationship while Ross is a romantic failure.
Carol's parents refused to attend the wedding, and she almost called it off, but Ross convinced her to push through. He also walked her down the aisle in her father's place. Apart from a few jokes, the show treats the wedding and their entire marriage as legitimate. The female pastor even stated that it made God happy when *any* two people come together in love, and this was treated completely seriously by the show.
Friends is definitely problematic in certain parts, but it's far less homophobic than people remember
@@Codemarla that was the joke. The joke was: Ross can be even less functional in a relationship than 2 lesbians (that were supposed to be the disfunctional ones in society's eyes)
Aaron Ong let’s not forget the part where phoebe is canonically bisexual
the second show is actually a real show. its called "i want to marry harry"
that dayton ohio reference at the end was a little 😳😬😬
Adam i couldnt hear what she said tho
William Curtis is that what she said at the end? That there was a shooting?
Thought this was gonna be one of those therapy session sketches, oh well
U dont need to explain another era, we lived it and we liked it as it was
By "we" you mean straight white people?
Cuz these blacks and gays didn't exactly have an ass full of roses at the time.
Also I was born in 2000 so it does need to be explained to me
There was this Saturday morning bloc in the UK called "smtv live" that had a recurring sketch called 'Chums' that parodied Friends
Looking back on it, Married With Children did pretty well. There are cheap fat jokes but none of the characters dishing out insults are considered aspirational figures, it's more like an arena where everyone takes shots at everyone rather than people on their high horse kicking people while they're down.
Okay... Not telling you all how to do your things... But "Doesn't Hold Up" a panel show where you guys talk about classic episodes of shows from back in the day seems like a sure fire hit.
Def owe the "Chums" thing to 30 Rock.
Everyone past a certain age has been through this exact situation
I remember a few years back realizing that the treatment of cross dressers/transsexuals in that show, specifically Chandler’s dad being the butt of jokes simply because he dressed like a woman (I can’t recall if he was a cross dresser or she was a transsexual), would probably age worse and worse as time went on heh
Still a funny show though. I’d say the vast majority of the humor is largely inoffensive. I mean, I’d watch that shit regardless, but I think most would be cool with it as well.
lol, just watched ghostbusters yesterday and yeah, same thing basically. Bill Murray being predatory, gay jokes, all of it.
Yup, pretty much :\
I don't recall gay jokes in Ghostbusters. Dick jokes, yes, but gay jokes? Can't recall any. If you could give an example, I'd appreciate it because I'm drawing a blank.
“A guy acts feminine”
“That one won an Emmy”
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
1:30-1:38
The timing just before the "Could you BE any GAYER?" line and Raph about to speak and his reaction after that was just perfect. That line was delivered so well too.
Every saterday he invites me to a party and every time he does he forgets to give out the address . . .
*”That one won an Emmy.”*
Had me rolling
I feel the Simpsons, being popular in the late 80s and 90s, was pretty progressive for it's time
i love the awknowledgement of just how fucked-up who wants to marry harry really was
Man, I just had this happen to me with rewatching Danny Phantom; I was actually surprised at how well it held up, and it did a great job at being what it was, but maaaaan that small handful of "effeminate man/crossdressing" jokes were awkward.
Oldschool Hardly Working be like: 1:42
Same reason trying to binge watch collegehumor sketches without accidentally stumbling on one older than 5-6 year ago is a challenge. People really don't believe me when i say it's good now
getting this on my RUclips page after Mathew Perry RIP😔🕊
This is waaaay too relatable...friends,allll the 80's movies, everything fits in this category
Tao's face is so funny he can do that dramatic sad face soooooo dramatically
Me: I wanna watch some old Doctor Who episodes.
Adric: If she breathes, she's a THOT!
Me: Actually I think I'll just watch Christopher Eccleston dance for the 50th time.
Actually, Doctor Who was always kinda progressive for its time. There's a few cringy lines about foreigners and women, but they always favored left wing themes. The first showrunner was even the first female producer at the BBC.
Brennan screaming: can you be any gayer!!! 😂
Does anyone know what her father exchanged her for?
A goat
A couple years ago I started watching the show "Would I Lie to You?" (a British panel show). It started in 2007 and is still on the air. I started out on the first episode and watched them all chronologically over the course of about a month. One thing that stood out was the number of gay jokes at the beginning of the show that slowly faded away over time. Watching was an interesting experience, because I effectively got to fast forward through the last fifteen years of the evolution of society's humor.
Y'all gotta roast your own old videos, that'd be a treat
Yeah, like that time they made a video about having a shower with your girlfriend, which is super centered on their cis male hetero audience, which evidently is not inclusive at all... which is not great, but, you know...
...you know, is nowhere near as bad as half the stuff that passed as comedy in TV shows.
@@TiagoMorbusSa I'm seeing your comments everywhere. And wow! You're seriously the perfect example of a corrupted child.
Let me guess... below 23, female... and American...
Am I right?
Their older videos are actually funny though, the new ones put me to sleep.
@@AlkisenSuper that's because it's easy to get laughs out of jabs at low hanging fruit. And using subtle racism/sexism/homophobia in your jokes is easy.
@@te1327 Nope, you're missing the point entirely. There were really clever parodies and hilarious surrealist/absurd humor back in their old days. Maybe it wasn't always PC, but comedy doesn't have the recquirement to be PC anyway.
At the very least you gotta agree Jake & Amir was classic.
Being from dayton ohio, hearing that just name dropped in the middle of this innocuous sketch made me choke on my food. Thanks collegehumor! lmfao
Weirdly coincidental reference to Dayton Ohio given everything
I just found out the "marry a prince" reality show actually happened... It's called something like "I Want to Marry Harry" or something
This is why Spongebob has always been a superior show.
I mean, the only time they were actually racist it was against Texans so... it doesn't count... uh... maybe...
No no, you're right. It doesn't count. (Plus, how were they racist against Texans? The only Texan In the show was a scientist genius athlete)
@@shotgun6X there's this whole part of an episode where they try to get Sandy to be mad and they're like "what am I? - stupid! - no, I'm Texas! - what's the difference?!" or some stuffs like that
How about the episode where Mr Krabbs wants to be 'cool' so him, spongebob and patrick break into a house that apparently they 'hit all the time' to steal underwear. TWIST its Mr Krabbs moms house!!
Even THEN that episode made me go WTF!
@@Raven2389 that was hilarious and wasn't really encouraging it if anything it was pointing out the fact that the women you objectify are mothers and daughters if you don't care enough about them as people
Texan is not a race.
This sketch 100% for me except Married With Children 😭
Oh God I can't imagine
I just assumed everyone who watched that show never grew out of it
It's still as funny as ever
Funny thing, the ONLY 90's sitcom I remember featuring a cast member using the N-word...was Spin City. Where Carter Heywood, who was a black, gay man who was generally portrayed in a very positive light, was making a point about racism...he used it as the punchline to a very cynical joke with the setup "what do you call a live-saving surgeon who just happens to be black?" And the scene wasn't played for laughs.
The problem with the joke in this video, is that a mass-appeal sitcom on basic cable in the 90s wouldn't be allowed to use the N-word for a cheap joke, due to Network restrictions on course language. Even Seinfeld didn't do it, what they did is had Jerry get in trouble for saving the f-word - which was bleeped.
"I loved this movie as a kid! We found it for sale cause it's kind of old and- oh that's brownface. That is straight up a white man covered in brown makeup with a fake accent"
T-the old 50s-60s Twilight Zone episodes are still safe to watch now, r-right? Right?
Fulvio Pontarollo yes the Twilight Zone is a classic
Twilight Zone was all about challenging your own perceptions and prejudices
Kinda. They did use topics of racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia, but they used them to impart moral lessons that those things were bad.
Yes and no. It's still my fave show of all time but there were eps that definitely had problematic lessons and content. Most of the classic episodes that are remembered seem to be holding up pretty good, at least on my last rewatch.
It's amazing how many shows from 90's 2000s the joke was you're black, gay, or a woman. Not even an offensive joke just pointing out their existance.
Usually when the characters were sexist/mysogynistic we were supposed to laugh at the characters who expressed it or at others' reactions (like in the episode about the male nanny).
It's a different story about trans/homophobia though.
i love trapp narrating the last show haha
It's an impressive resistance to cognitive dissonance that allows someone to rant angrily into the void of the internet about how sensitive 'SJWs' are just because some minorities point out some 90's shows are problematic. I wonder if they feel attacked.
So wtf...if you watch with captions it literally says man in blue shirt laughs
I wouldn't mind if Katie started the catchphrase "That's just how women are!"
This is disgusting, that people accepted that kind of stuff.
Anyway I'm off watching my favourite films, "Gone with the Wind" and "Birth of a nation".
Refer to: Seinfeld when George and Jerry creep on the NBC exec's FIFTEEN year old daughter and then justify it to elaine.
HankHades she was hot tho
Lmao you guys said Hanna and the construction worker.... Are you referring to the bachelorette? Haha
Shoulda watched "Old Lady's house". It still holds up!