How did Eomer get so many troops at Helms Deep? 🤔
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024
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He bears the Elven Ring of Power called Narya. It has the power to embolden everyone around the bearer. So Gandalf was being super inspiring in addition to his own powers. 😁👍
Eomer was like “oi sauron killed me wife and took me bloody son womp womp”
“Oi hughie I found a way to take out homelander…ring of fockin power mate”
Theoden's face: 🗿
„Oi aragorn, wormtongue posessed my fookin grandpa and wants to shag my bloody sistah, dirty cunt that he is”
Might also be worth noting: Eomer himself wasn't leading the reinforcements in the books. He was at Helm's Deep the whole time.
Great call out. Fair point... I just rewatched my vid and yep, I should prob have said that more directly. Thanks! Once again my mistakes will live on in the internet forever 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@thegreyhavens167How dare you forget that!
Just kidding. What's with OP talking to you like an idiot because you forgot? What a jerkoff😂
Why would that be worth noting? He's describing the events of the film, not the book. Are you a spastic?
The credit goes to Erkenbrand of the westfold, descendent of Helm Hammerhand.
It’s also of note that erkenbrand and most of his men were on foot and that the only reason helms deep was a functioning fortress is that erkenbrand extensively repaired it, I’m not sure whether erkenbrand or háma is my favourite eorlingas
The G doing it all by himself once again. What a legend! Someone get him some 'erbs from dem Tooks
Aww yeah!!! Wizard G is the O G!! [gangstas paradise playing softly in the background]
Eomer was at helms deep already in the books and it should also be noted he’s FAR more active in the books as a character. Wish we got more of him in the movies. Him and Aragorn have some badass fights together
Don't you mean How did Butcher gets all those "BOYS" together?
I absolutely love how the creator directly answers, and how he uses music and sound effects perfectly at the right time.
Most creators are so lazy they blast the same music across the entire video so you literally hear NOTHING else said.
Mad props!
Thanks, I really appreciate that. Just trying to have a bit of fun while exploring Tolkien's world (some folks get too serious about it IMHO). Glad you liked it 😅
I got to meet the actor in person, super chill and nice guy! It makes me love all his characters 11 times more… always thought Eomer was a neat character even if he was hardly shown in the movie
You got to meet Karl Urban? Honestly everything his does is amazing. His work in the boys is beyond incredible. Seems like a super nice guy too. How did you get to meet him?
@@thegreyhavens167 He was also great as Judge Dredd. Easy to forget, as he never takes off the helmet in the film.
He's even better, Eomer, in the books. More honourable and badass!
@@zimbolimbo2408Likewise for Aragorn
@Mr.Traumatized Billy Butcher? In which movie?
Big G does it again
Big G is the original OG! 😎😎
@@thegreyhavens167original original gangster? 🤔
@@nss309 🤦 Reading it back, yeah, that was pretty cringe....
The imagery of Gandalf doing donuts and burnouts on Shadowfax w/ the Mandalorian music in the background just made my geeky little mind explode.
🤣🤣🤣🤣. I love this comment so much!!!!!!!
I just assumed he was some kind of general, so when Grima tookover Eomer buggered off with half (if not most of) the army.
That could work. In the books he is called "Third Marshall of the Riddermark", making him basically the fourth most powerful person in Rohan
He virtually is a general, but he didn't bugger off with them - For the most part Rohan is decentralised, they're not all surrounding the tiny bloody encampment we see Theoden at, they're across scattered villages and camps - unified to protect their lands but largely living separately until called upon
Rallied scattered forces yeah - Took said forces to begin with, well there were never there to be taken so no
Gandalf was like, “I’m just that good.”
Ah yes, good to see my favourite duck-related Lord of the Rings meme featured
There is a chance those Ducks... in that meme... is the greatest single thing ever put to film!!!!! 🤔
A sequence of Gandalf rounding up the scattered troops and all of them meeting right before their downhill charge is a scene I need now.
Dude, I love how you present information!
That duck army meme might never die out anytime soon I swear
😅. I mean the duck army could very well be the best Internet vid of all time. 🤔🤔
Gandalf is so real and he is a very disciplined worker. When you work like that, success comes quickly.
Gandalf is such an MVP. He solo a balrog, he lead Gondor garrison, and also this. In term of combat, he's the most baddass in the movie.
My assumption was that Eiomer led that many troops to Helms Deep because that was how extensively Grima had disarmed Rohan. Remember Grima was there to make prevent Rohan from reinforcing the Steward of Gondor.
I literally just got done reading the helms deep battle and had so many questions, this video answered them all thank you!
Glad it was helpful! 😁.
I absolutely love these videos!!! Keep up the amazing work🎉
Thank you! Will do! Glad you like them. Hope you have an Awesome Wednesday!!! 😅
Nicely done video 😄. Yes i also agreed with the duck army.
Awww yeah !! ＼（〇◡ｏ）／ Glad you liked it.
That duck army meme is sooo good! It's honestly one of the best things the internet ever produced! What a legend.
Love your stuff man
Thanks. I really appreciate that!!! 😅
Hope your Wednesday is Awesome!!!
That mandalorian music with helms deep in the background and you saying it is fanatstic
I love the way you present these videos! 😅❤
Thanks for sending over the positive vibes. I appreciate that!! Hope you have an Awesome Wednesday!!!
A movie could be made just about the Battles of the Fords of Isen, and it would be glorious. And insanely tragic.
With the king under Saruman, he may have dismissed all his bannerman, Eomer just rallied all the banners
Gandalf playing 4D chess as usual
This was the Second Battle of the Fords of Isen. We see the aftermath of the First Battle in the Extended Edition. The orcs were repulsed but Theoden's son was killed.
I like to imagine that some of my comments influenced the shift in your language when presenting these.
I'm definitely not complaining.
The great Gatsby movie is the best example of why breathing modern life into a classic allows for a deeper understanding and depth.
Also you get to really show off the pimps without having to explain why they're badass.
Either way still love these little videos man 😁🔥.
Wow, great comment! Thanks for the positive vibes. They really mean a lot!! 🙇
About the influence from the audience:
* yep, I made several different types of LOTR videos over a few months (video game/scott pilgrim stuff, slow sleepy story-time content, deep lore dives) and the audience definitely picked this one with views and engagement!
* but for the comments exactly... well they are pretty much all over the place. Honestly, quite a few are kinda angry at me (how dare you mix GoT, Starwars, Skyrim, and Zelda into my LOTR... 🤬🤬!!) Hard to get solid info from all that 🤣.
Honestly, I mostly just try to combine the things that I personally love into these and make something that makes me laugh, personally. So it's really an audience of one I guess 🤷♂️. I just make content I really enjoy and makes me smile.... and hope someone else feels he same 🤞
@@thegreyhavens167
Whenever you create something, your opinion matters most. Trying to please everyone might get you on trending easier, but trends shift too frequently to keep up with. Doing something you like makes it so that you're proud of your work long after the trends are forgotten.
@@phasepanther4423 Yeah I think your right. I originally tried to do what others were doing... or what I thought the audience wanted... it really didn't work for me until I just started doing what is personal to me.
And super good news: I'm having so much fun making these things and chatting with others about it, that it almost doesn't matter if it ever takes off or not. I'm having a blast!!!
Thank you for explaining this - I just watched the two towers for the first time in years and had this exact question 👌🏻
Yeo Gandalf's thug life, horns and gangsta paradise theme is too damn hilarious. Never gets old.
Aw yeah!!! ＼（〇◡ｏ）／
... Livin' in the Gandalf's paradise😎🚬
Awww .... yeah ┌(- 。-)┘♪
@@thegreyhavens167 🤣🤣
That's fu***ING diabolical
Gandalf's God was well aware he was the chosen one to defeat Sauron, he was humble and didn't think highly of himself to be able to best Sauron. Makes sense why Eru never directly interfered with the world of men. He (Eru) had confidence in Gandalf which is a really big flex.
That defeats the whole point. Why didn't he beat Sauron then?
@cringekiller348 The last time Eru directly intervened in middle earth was near the end of the second age. He ended up sinking the island continent of Numinor, turned the whole planet from disk-shaped to a 🌎 globe, and removed the undying lands from the world entirely, ensuring that only the elves (and a few lucky b*st*rds like Bilbo, Frodo, Sam, and Gimli) could even visit there. The last time the Valar intervened was at the end of the first age, in the War of Wrath, where they left the west half of middle earth, west of the blue mountains, Tore Up From The Floor Up and sunk beneath the ocean. In the mythic history of Tolkien, Eru and the Valar are forces of good, but they seem to lack subtly. Maybe they left humanity, the elves, the dwarves, and the hobbits, with a little help from Gandalf to settle Sauron's hash on their own because the planet just couldn't take any more direct "help?"
The War of Wrath seems to have a biblical parallel in the flood of Noah story, and the fall of Numinor might be parallel to the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. Just guessing
Gandalf: 🗿
(you got a new subscriber)
Eomer rocks! The fieldmarshal of Rohan, I love the Rohirim, hail Teoden King! The epic charge before the gates of Minas Tirith still is bonechilling to watch. Gondor calls for aid......and Rohan will answer!!!
Yes yes yes! One could make a strong case that Theoden King charging the Pelenor field is one of the greatest movie moments! My personal favorite line from the Rohirim.... "to the king!!!!"
The call went out that the Rohirrim were mustering and if the warriors brought their own horse they would be issued armor...the rest was LEGEND!!!
In the movie has well Aragon told the king he had 2,000 troops marching north. I always assumed those were the troops that’s showed up at Helms Deep
rohan's army's size keeps increasing in the movie tbf
So true 🤣🤣🤣
When we first see Eomer.... maybe 50 or so.... then at Helms Deep like thousands... then at Minas Tirith.... MILLIONS!!!!! 😅
@@thegreyhavens167 lmfao what can orcs do against such reckless birth-rate?
Rohan Army Union Local 3434 wondering about those paychecks too 😂
🤣🤣. Can you imagine how confused/annoyed movie Eomer would be if he found himself in union CBA negotiations. Hama - "We agree to ride for a max 8 hours total per day". Eomer - 🤬🤬🤬
@@thegreyhavens167 With hazard pay 💰
You know? I had almost forgotten how much Gandalf liked sunglasses, gold chains, Pimp Hats, Poptarts, and Starbuck's Coffee.
That was why all of the Hobbits always called him, Big Pimp Daddy "G"! 🕶
Thanks for the reminder! ☕ 😂
Always found it sad that they didn't have it as eomer fighting in the battle alongside aragorn like in the book, their friendship is such a good one and it's reoccurring appearance especially at the Pellanor is such a satisfying plot point
"When he means to" just waiting for most of the army to die
Yep, that's just the Wizard way. I mean he is always waiting till the VERY last second to get anything done. What a procrastinater 🙄🤣
Theoden had one of the biggest glow ups in Middle earth 💀
By the way I LOVE your quick explanations for these questions and how you basically dumb em down. I’ve watched so many other awesome RUclipsrs who go into detail and my attention goes elsewhere honestly lmao this is fun and easy to understand. One day I’ll read the book … BUT TODAY IS NOT THAT DAY … (or the year hehehe)
Aw yeah! Thanks! I really love your comment. I'm honestly just trying to have some fun and really great to here others find it enjoyable too. Glad you liked it! 😅
Yeah Gandalf had the Red ring too, so he also had haste from that...
Gandalf doing donuts on a horse & referencing the duck army just turned what I thought was going to be a video about Eomer into a core memory.
Cool video. Love the refs and sound effects 😅❤
You don't need a paycheck when you're fighting for your kingdom.
I love the fact that you use the mandalorian theme in the Video!😍
Awwww yeah!!! Thanks man. That IS a proper tune!!
How did galadriel and saruman move so much in short time in hobbit like lorien to imladris overnight
Great question. In the books, totally different. They planned out the meetings years in advance and got there the old fashion way ... walking.
But in the film.... Galadriel kinda disappeared suddenly at the end. I almost wonder if they were not really there at all, and it was just maybe a magical elf zoom call??? What do you think?
@@thegreyhavens167she just starts Skypeing
@@thegreyhavens167 Maybe the eagles carried them ? :DD
Playing mount and blade 2 bannerlords I feel like Gandalf traveling around the battainians lands recruiting soldiers from the villages to fend off the vlandian invasion of my lands
How is Bannerlords? I played the very first M&B quite a bit when it was in Beta and loved it. The combat felt so brutal! Is Bannerlord worth playing? Also, I only get to play a couple hours a week... it seems like the kind of game where you need enough time to grind. Would it be fun for just smaller sessions?
@@thegreyhavens167 honestly, there have been so many patches to the game that now it’s in the perfect sweet spot. I’ve spent hours equivalent to weeks playing the game. I prefer sandbox mode over campaign. It’s probably like the largest game I’ve played as in back and forth warfare. It’s epic. If you think crack cocain is addicting then play this game. Child’s play, latest patch made the graphics amazing.
I play on Xbox x so unfortunately I don’t have access to the lord of the rings mods that PC has.
Question: Why didn't glorfindel join the fellowship? He was super powerful
BECAUSE THOSE PREPPY LONG EARS ARE SUPER LAZY!!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
jk, but in the book there is an interesting twist. Elrond knows he needs 9 people to be in the Fellowship to match the 9 Nazgul. They immediately pick 7 of them, but for the other two he wants to send two of his super hero elves. I always assumed one of them would be Glorfindel... but at the last minute Gandalf convinces him to send Merry and Pippin instead.
Now I truly love Merry and Pip... but if I were Frodo and had a choice between those two knuckleheads and a couple Glorfindels??? I mean...
@@thegreyhavens167 also wasn't there the risk glorfindel was "too powerful" and would draw attention? Dude was basically an elf angel. Killed a balrog then came back to give a verbal beatdown to the witch king
@@crimsonconquestcustoms2584 yeah totally true. He is light a nuclear bomb wherever he goes... so much for stealth :)
Still... if my choice is Glorfindel or a fool of a Took....
Elrond advises against powerful Elves going, he says even if he had an army like the old days it's not what the Fellowship need. Hence all 4 Hobbits go.
It's assumed Elrond needed Glorfindel and his sons to act as messengers to Lothlorien and Lindon, as well as protection for the Wandering Companies still in Eriador.
It
@@SantomPh Well said. That makes total sense to me 👍
But you know what bothers me a bit.... why not send one of those elves to the Shire? Elrond knew something like that might happen, all the way back at the Council. I mean Frodo and Sam and Merry and Pip are out there risking their lives while these elves hang out in beautiful Rivendell munching on lembas bread, seems like the least they could do is protect the shire a bit - especially after Elrond sent the Rangers to the south. I mean honestly, just 4-5 soldiers could have stopped Sharkey's pitiful gang, right?
Am I being crazy here? (wouldn't be the first time 😎 )
Your shorts just earned you a subber
Aw yeah! Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!! 😅
@@thegreyhavens167 keep up the good work 👍
my pov: when u read about the duck army and u dont need any context
He called on THE BOYS
If i remember correctly. gandolf was with the group traveling to helm's deep. then half way he left and said he'll be back in 4 days at dawn.
It’s sacrilege putting Mandalorian music in a LOTR video.
😜 Why so serious? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gotta admit that is a banger of a tune!
@@thegreyhavens167 noooo! LOTR music is where it’s at!!
LOTR music only? Hmmm... 🤔 Maybe you are right... Ok, next video will only feature the Balad of Bilgo Baggins song from Mr Spock. Good call. 👍
(google it, it's crazy!)
@@thegreyhavens167 thank you 🙏🏻
Never forget Eomer was royal family a prince if you will after Theoden’s son died. And Third Marshall of the Mark. He was THE only one that could gather all them big boys. But he was at Helms Deep the whole time in the books. Still cool tho.
I gotta say if Saruman actually persuaded Gandalf to join him to destroy the men of middle earth they would have been so screwed, like Gandalf is the ONLY reason they held 2 major defenses during the war without his interference at helms deep and presence at Minas thirth they would have been so screwed although that’s almost a 2 way street if Saruman wouldn’t have betrayed the elves and men and dwarf alliance then Sauron wouldn’t have had HALF the amount of forces he did have I personally feel like tolkin knew exactly what he was doing creating one dark wizard and one light wizard and giving them so much influence on the entire story made them that much more important
i always wondered. when aragorn legolas and gimli meet eomer, it was only a squad of maybe 15/20 horsemen. then he shows up at the end with THOUSANDS. but i loved the movie so i never complained.
What's so cool about this short is it's Lord of the rings but it has Mando's music in it 😂
Yes, the duck army clearly outnumbered even the uruk'hai army.
Scary...
The edits are amazing 😂😂
if the old guy did not accidentally released the arrow in helmsdeep, the casualty should be less 😅
He was the main force patrolling
He called up the boys
Movie Eomer came down a hill from the Left. Book Eomer fought with Theoden. Erkenbrand and Gandalf came down the hill from the Right.
Timescale is the reason, it took months for Frodo to get out of Shire
Playing mandalorian over a LOTR Video
“A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one”
You mentioned they were all on foot but at Helmsdeep they were all on horseback. Shadowfax must have rounded up every horse in Edoras and said follow me friends.
Ah yes! Gandalf, at it again.
I choose to believe that Gandalf was ascended to a Valar by Eru for this.
I bet as soon as he returned home, Manwe would be waiting for him with a slight bow, as he would greet him:
Manwe: Welcome home, brother. How does it feel?
Gandalf: It is good to finally be home, my lord. The task was a difficult one, but using the word "rewarding" feels enormously inadequate.
Manwe: That is good, my brother. But this is not what I was inquiring about.
Gandalf: Well, I am afraid you have me at a disadvantage, my lor.....why are you calling "Brother" in such a peculiar way?
Gandy didn't even need some lootcrates to level up in fighting alone
Yeah, but the boss fell off the mountain when he died. Does that mean G lost all of the loot? That's tough!!! 😥
Great vid it only slightly annoys me that you used the Mandalorian theme. It just seems out of place lol
🤣🤣🤣. my sense of humor might be a bit ... weird???
Gotta admit though, that Mando theme is a banger of a tune! ♪┌|∵|┘♪. Thanks for the comment!
Eeyomur vs the Urrkai! Yes!
Gandalf was putting in the work
I remember in the Third Age game the cast was helping Gandalf round up all the troops to help out at Helms Deep too.
I like the Mando sound mix
Thx 👋😅
I feel like those orcs with pikes and spears would have slaughtered cavalry
He rolled a 20 sided die and hit the multipliers. C’mon, man…that’s D&D 101. 😂😂😂
"How did Eomer get so many troops at Helm's Deep?"
He didn't 😂
for the movies i always believed that Eomer took the army with him when he got exiled by Grima, so that all Gandalf had to do was find Eomer & tell him that Grima got tossed out & Theoden was himself again. yeah maybe some more scattered riders needed to get called from around the region but the bulk was already with Eomer in exile.
They say Sauron only has one eye because the other one is in a perpetual state of flinching out of fear of the Big G…
What would have happened to Sméagol/Gollum if he survived?
Great question. My initial instinct is that he would have suddenly aged the last 550 years in an instant. 😵😵
But if he could survive truly.... I don't personally think he was beyond redemption. What do you think?
Going off of the films: A snack for Shelob and her babies as a balance for what Frodo and Sam went through.
I think honestly he wouldn't last long. I think that he'd end up giving himself up for food for something. He's done too much bad stuff. It'd be kind of like Darth Vader
Downed some prescription drugs to ease the pounding migraine you just gave him with that question.
Funny stuff. I would have used the duck army.. they could fly over the wall
Eomer is a master recruiter. He simply made J.R.R Tolkien write them in.
Eomer is a low key baller! I wish we could see more of him. You know he did some awesome (and crazy) stuff in his life. 😅
Don't wizard arrive precisely when they mean to. Not exactly when they mean to.
Noooooooo! You're the first person to notice😬😬😬😬🤣🤣🤣
Yeah I noticed I said the punch line wrong just after I posted it. 🙄. Oh well. Nice catch!! 😅
@@thegreyhavens167 I know the line very well because I am not a very punctual person and need to make excuses.
@@pureevil6047 that's genius!!! I'm totally stealing that idea from you and using it next time I'm late. 😅
Incredible edits lol
Got a huge crush on Karl Urban.
The worst scene in the movies was the last ride scene where literally 10s of thousands of horsemen appeared and charged the elephants. 100s of thousands even. It looked ridiculous. No way where there ever so many just hanging around waiting to be asked to fight. No town or city were ever saw could cope with so many soldiers. They must have permanently lived in tents or something
Very big diff between the books and movies but both are cool af.
Hells yeah!!! 🔥👍. I generally tend to side with the books, but that charge down the hill in the films is just amazing, baller, epic, legendary!!!!! "To the king!!!!"
@@thegreyhavens167 that "to the king" gives me goose bumps every time even if i just read it... so is "deathhhhh" and then the violin in the background :)) damn im a nerd...i love it )))
Low key... that "to the king" might be my favorite non-famous line in the whole trilogy. Karl Urban is a freaking rock star in everything. Whoever on Peter Jackson's team found that guy should get a raise.
" Muy likeo " Gangster Paradise'
Heeeyy I worked on that lego Aragorn render you have as your profile pic.. awesome to run into it in the wild :D
Really, wait.. what??? That's crazy cool. Did you work on the box art or the video game? I mean I didn't always enjoy the mechanics of the gameplay but the art direction and humor in LLOTR is LEGENDARY!!
Would love to hear what you worked on. So cool.
@@thegreyhavens167 eehhh my comment didn't post :( probably cause i listed a link to my portfolio.. but yea I used to work at Lego for around 7 years and did a ton of 3d renders for print/web/events also some animations.. we did a lot of movie posters recreations in lego form.. since comments with links are not getting posted, you could google "moleism" and you'll find my deviantart or other sites I have my portfolios on..
First off he was one of the 3 marsharls of rohan so he could call a third of rohan fighting force anyway he also became in charge of another marshals territory when his cousin died as he had now taken his place as heir apparent which also granted him in time when the king was sick and from the people perspective likely to die the ability to rally warriors to his banner and let's not forget him and his cousin had already fought a battle so he had some already assembled troops so didn't have to waste time to go to helms deep. This is why he had so many soildier to relieve helms deep.
Gandalf: I have the power of ducks and loyal soldiers on my side.
Honestly the only character that i feel like REALLY badly got sidelined in the movies was Eomer.
I like Faramir better in the movies, and Gimli and Legolas get screentime even if their personalities and dialogue are cut
gandalf is just a gigachad
Someone get that G some Longbottom leaf .
Ngl the Mandalorian
music fits well with lotr
Awww yeah!!!! 😎😎😎😎😎. Glad you liked the video