It’s only now that I realize Aragorn called out ‘Hold!!’ in Elvish because he believed that that arrow shot was so brilliant that only an Elf could have made it. That old Rohan archer should be proud!! I really hope the old boy survived when the enemy breached the walls.
@@dewaynerichardson5895 “I realise the [author] has made a decision but given that it’s a stupid-ass decision I’m electing to ignore it.” Yeah, the books involve heavy casualties and losses, don’t involve elves at Helm’s Deep and had a bigger cavalry charge out of the fortress. But we like to imagine everything ended up okay anyway.
Its nice to think that but what makes more sense and most likely is that he was just making sure they didnt start to fire after the Rohirrim soldier thinking a volley was started
Gimli is sometimes criticised for being too comedic in the Peter Jackson movies, but I love how hyped up he is in battle scenes, dude is utterly fearless and revels in melee combat like a true warrior
Well, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got of hand fast. Bob and his friends only wanted to sing for the Rohirrim and praise their glory. ;_;
Still cant believe how well they represented a universe which is literally impossible to convert from the books. God damn we are such a lucky generation to see these incredible movies in theater
I love these movies, great memories with my dad seeing them in theaters, he may be a strong silent type but dammit he introduced me to this and I've loved it ever since, I remember not wanting to watch lotr 1 because I thought it was stupid lol boyyyy xD
@@sooshiguy Thats why it is best to be happy with the fact that we actually got to witness it. The entire trilogy was incredible to view when it first came out. It still holds.
Must suck to be that first uruk-hai killed - Having walked for several days, marching to battle, only to be killed, before the fight even starts lol. Bummer.
yeah...you know each time I watch this I'm reminded of that one photo of a soldier who got gunned on in Normandy by the nazis before even being able to get out of the amphibious boat...really sad...
My favorite thing about this battle is that Aragorn, a Man, is commanding an Elvish unit. He’s such a highly respected warrior and leader that his authority crosses racial and national boundaries.
he was raised in rivendell, he was also dunedain, and he was the heir of isildur. plus those elves were sent by elrond and galadriel. they were also led by haldir, someone who knew aragorn very well.
Hell even the 1 minute of action in the clip was better than the entire battle of winterfell. Clearly the GOT directors had no idea what they were doing
This is why the Hobbit will never be as good of a trilogy as LOTR, the unplanned stuff real people do beat the stale battlescenes in the Hobbit. especially with BOT5A
2:25 when it cuts from the women and children to outside with them chanting always gives me chills, such brilliant directing. These two shots made this simply terrifying
The way the sound of chanting changes with the shots is also really effective. Introduce the new element while viewing frightened people's reaction in the caves then get the full force when the shot goes back outside.
I have the same complaint with this scene as I have with Game of Thrones' handling of the Ygritte battle scenes. There should have been a lot more women armed and fighting. Men might die during and after a battle, but they die cleanly and quickly. We women have a LOT more to lose. Under the circumstances, I sure as hell wouldn't have been cowering down in the deep.
@@pricklypear7516 Historically speaking, women would certainly not just wait in some cave or whatever. They weren't really expected to fight (although there are documented cases of women taking up arms and do it anyway, most famously Jeanne Laisné), but in such a situation where you are under siege and the worst will happen if you lose, they would certainly help in every way they could, bringing arrows to archers, extinguish fires, cook water (or nasty things like urine) to pour it on enemies from the walls, treat the wounded ect. .
If you watch the BTS, they actually do use lots of real stunt men for the battles. However, Peter had no time due to the studio to blend it well enough with the cgi ones. The Hobbit being bad wasn’t Peters fault at all, it’s the studio that wanted him to pump out 3 movies in 3 years. Go watch the BTS because he’s a nervous and depressed wreck in them. He at least had 3 years of pre-production with LOTR, while the Hobbit had maybe a year and a few months.
Don't get me wrong, the battle of Helms Deep is outright amazing and better. But the Battle of Winterfell wasn't THAT bad. Not that well written but considering that it's just a TV show instead of a movie, it's not too shabby tbh.
@@jasonsantos6430 Battle of Winterfell was literally the FOCUS of S8 according to the writers. They took an EXTRA year to film S8 just for the Battle of Winterfell. They had a HIGHER BUDGET and better gear and equipment to make the battle. Yet you got a piss poor pile of dogshit considering all of that effort that was put in, the writers said it would be better than helms deep. It's not even comparable. To be fair it's not really all about the cinematics, it was alright but the writing is what really killed the battle of winterfell.
THIS is how you do a movie battle. Beautifully shot, beautifully edited. Masterful film-making. The Battle of Winterfell has absolutely nothing on this
shame on us to believe in theme isn't it ?, anyway never trust a showrunner or producer that's their job to convince us to watch their show, is not a justification but if you go with low expectations good things will happen. Of course i was not expecting something as LOTR but i didn't feel disappointed.
I was around 10 years old the first movie came out so I could have seen it in theaters but we were poor and my parents thought movie tickets were a waste of money... I did grow up watching them on DVD and TV though and rewatch them once a year... the greatest trilogy of films ever made
Random old conscripted dude accidentally lets go of string and manages to hit Orc squarely in armor's weak spot. Legolas master bow elf fails to kill lightly armored olympic torch bearer running in straight line on cleared path
RuizDream Considering he can perfectly snipe wargs from super far away I would say the running dude that was right below him at the wall should be a walk in the park.
2:40 There Bob was, cheering with the rest of us, having the time of his life. We thought it would last forever. Then the arrow came. It came without warning. We watched Bob fall. Everyone fell silent, smitten with shock and utter horror. One moment he was there, then he was gone...gone forever. Then the shouting started. Uruk-hai started shouting Bob's name at the top of their lungs. Rage overtook us in an instant. It was in this moment that Chad (the dude on the rock) raised his sword and screamed into the rain. It was a cry that would forever be remembered among the Uruk-hai. It was a shout full of pain, sorrow and unquenchable rage. "FOR BOB!!!"
I love how the Uruks first action when arriving is to unnerve the enemy before attacking, hence they spend a good minute making as much noise as possible to both hype themselves and scare the ever living daylights out of Grandpa
I never thought of it like that. I just thought they were just doing it for celebration the march was over or To begin the assault with a burst of energy. But to scare and unnerve the Defendants is deffinately something i would have never have thought myself thank you!
The stamping was actually unintended.. The extras playing the uruk hai were bored of standing and some started to pound the spears and the others followed.. Peter thought it was excellent and adopted it..
@Winterhascome Not it wasn't, there are constantly shots of 10's of zombies surrounded 1 or 2 people just to cut away and cut back later and there's no zombies there now.
I remember walking around the mall with my family and the Best Buy playing this on their biggest tv; there were dozens of people that stopped just to watch this one part.
Same I was like 9 years old and the DVDS were out so I sat there and watched the movie on the Walmart Supercenter big screen TV in the electronics area. There was adults and kids just sitting there I spent 40 minutes maybe an hour watching it then it was time to go.
This has to be the most terrifying build-up scene to a battle in the history of movies. I remember sitting in the theater watching this, shivering with terror right along with those women and children huddled underneath Helm's Deep. The whole scene is an absolute masterpiece of fear and suspense. Magnificent.
Except I hated the joking that had to always take place between the dwarf and the elf. It was not in the book - just added for the Disney effect. It took some of the tension, awe and majesticness out of this (and other) scenes. But that's really the only complaint I have about these great movies.
What I love about this scene is the fact Aragorn is leading the Elven army. They were lead to Helms Deep by Haldir, he would be the equivalent to a commander or general in ranks of men. Even Legolas an Elvish Prince son of King Thranduil they do not follow.They follow Aragorn just out of the sheer respect they must have for the man, earned through tales and feats in war. Of course he grew up in Rivendell so some of the elves probably know him too. But from a military point they know they follow the true High King of Gondor, Isildurs heir, Elessar himself. What a moment.
+relatedzombie Do you feel the same? It is more brutal this,more in the details,more drama,more realistic,dispare,hope,pasion,ah it gets me every time.Almost drop a tear from my eye
ltwargssf R I admit they weren't as good as LOTR, but its not their fault, since how can you surpass or match perfection? Still however I rather enjoyed the series, I won't deny they made some mistakes in the films, but they were still good in my opinion
i dont know man.. its so hard to watch, no realism, no passion, all cgi bs.. the original felt real, they can do movies like tht but people are getting dumber and more accpetable and shitty movies like hobbit are actually enjoyed by the mass general public.
It’s the details I appreciate more as I get older. The Uruks send their berserkers up with the ladders because their unarmored and less likely to get pulled down by gravity. Likewise they clear a space, intimidate the enemy, and interrupt the constant stream of arrows that were decimating their front lines. Also, it may just be me overthinking it, but I expect they had the ladder furthest toward the Hornburg rising first because there’s a spot where the line of archers is interrupted by the sudden height change in the wall. Or because that’s closest to where the Men, lesser skilled in archery, are stationed.
This is the gold standard of fantasy battle scenes. The set up to it, The music, the lighting, the dialog, the archers, the sword fighting, the climax and Gandalf at the end. They set the bar really high on this one.
@@matthewbilich6175 "Nearly 20 years later and not even close to being surpassed." Siege of Minas Tirith and Battle of Pelennor Fields literally a year later: Are we a joke to you?
Apparently the actors who played the Uruks got tired of waiting around in the set and just randomly started to hit the ground with their spears. Jackson liked it so much he decided to include it into the film.
ian maclean No it's fact, here is more: During the long nightshoot at Helm's Deep, the Orcs had to find ways to entertain themselves. Sala Baker comments, "We had about 60 guys singing in the middle of the night-- singing and waiting for the next shot. It was really cool. The crew would join in.. it was a way to keep ourselves amused. The guitar would come out, and all those Uruk-hai and beserkers sat around jamming! Billy Boyd also says, "To keep up morale, they would bring a band in-- a string quartet or something-- during lunch. It was nice. One day, they brought this jazz band in, and someone in full Uruk-hai costume started dancing. I remember thinking that was quite bizarre. You never really sat with the Uruk-hai, even at lunch! You knew the people, but the Hobbits didn't sit with the Uruk-hai! We're sitting there watching this guy dancing, and I thought, "That's something you don't see every day."
2:41 NO! Uruk 2,503! Uruk 1: He was my best friend! Uruk 2: He had a family you bastards! Uruk 3: He was my cousin's godfather! Uruk on rock: SHOW THEM NO MERCY! FOR URUK 2,503!
@@SARGEHALO666v2 eh. This battle took 120 days to film, while the battle of Winterfell only took 55 days. I'm sure it will be absolutely incredible, but I'm not sure it'll surpass this
That was actually improvised by the actors when they were waiting for the filming to start surprisingly. Peter Jackson and the others loved it so much it was left in the final product
@@justsomeguy922r3yup Majority of the stuntmen and actors are all Polynesian (Māori) and they did the war chant just because and Peter and the crew actually liked it so they kept it in the movie.
@@justsomeguy922r3 as far as i know, no its not. Uruks war chant was recorded on a New Zeland stadium. I searched about this fact and i only found a mention on a single page.
I love how the armor and weapons the Uruk-hai use reflects the new industrial nature of Isengard. They look mass produced and simple. But for the Elves and Rohan soldiers you can tell their armor and weapons were produced by skilled craftsman and blacksmiths and appear ornate as well.
Tolkien was a critic of the factory system and the effect that mass industrialization had on the countryside. His invention of Isengard was a clear example of this.
We're a lucky generation to have experienced that trilogy in theaters, and I remember the endless arguments at school about what will the extra scenes be in the extended editions. Good times. I think it was the last VHS I ever bought (I was living at my grand-parents house and they didn't have a DVD player). Or maybe it was Star Wars: AOTC...
totally. Gandalf vs Balrog scene made me shit bricks also... I was like: no freaking way Gandalf is dead?! When the Uruk-hai berserker blew up the Helm's Deep wall I was like "Ok, that's it. They're gone." So much feelings.
It was really amazing. When you saw the approaching Uruk-hai army from the distance, appearing from the darkness with torches and when they blew up the Wall.. The feel of epicness and hopelessness at the same time from big screen.. Flawless!
+JP RM i didn't watch these movies till 2013 :( (i have no idea why ive been a fan of other big movie series) although i had seen the part where they go into moria some years before, ive been feeling really jelous that i was left out but I guess not.
The calm before the literal storm is just so good. I also love when the Uruks start slamming their spears on the ground. Such a good intimidation tactic, and that shot of all the orc’s just hauling ass at the wall is just phenomenal.
That really sucks....that uruk hai walked all the way from Isenguard to fight and didn't even get to run to the wall.....instead got shot by an old man. 2:42 STILL AN EPIC SCENE AND GREATEST MOVIE BATTLE OF ALL TIME. Edit*: Gandalf Charge and Rohirrim Charge > Avengers Assemble...just my opinion don't hate lol.
Hussain Pradhan Nah what really sucks for ALL orcs that walked all that way, was getting wiped out. Because some smooth talking ego maniac wizard thought he could rule the world. People fight back hard when you threaten to genocide them. The old man shooting was right to shoot first, he knew they were their to kill everyone.
+Jay H Thing is though, they probably should have started shooting earlier. They would have taken out way more Orcs before the walls were breached. Granted with their superior numbers, the Orcs were bound to win if Gandalf & the Rohirrim didn't arrive.
Rohan has rewritten history, the truth is: The Uruks were there to sing some carols, however, being unappreciative of Uruk singing, they Rohan dishonorably killed one of the merry singers. The Uruks then decided to share their culture more aggressively.
The thing that really hits home for me are the scenes with the teenagers and elderly men being suited up with armor and given swords, basically being drafted because they needed all the men they could get. The women and children cowering in the safehold below. This reflects real historical events.
Tbh if i was im a situation like this ...tbh i be pissed because guys get to literally do everything and girls gotta play it safe all the time when they could be trained and capable of fighting and im a girl so i knew damn well i would of made myself look like a boy an went to war with them because its the best thing u can do to help instead of crying and huddle in a corner until everybodys dead ...im sorry but girls act like their queens all the time just because their girls and that they need to be protected. ..i may be a girl but im never like that ...i would go to war as long as its like this haha because havimg guns an bombs an shit is stupid and i think its cheating tbh ...i mean guns are cool too but i would love a war that was like this ...nothing but swords and bow an arrows and those rock cannon things....its so simple ...an u don't have to worry about a jam gun or anything like that or about the gun not working if u drop it a certain way or in water
@@italianlove5942 i know i was just saying....girls can be capable of fighting as well....as long as their trained.....they can help with something other then cooking,cleaning an whatever else girls do....i mean tbh i find that crap boring as heck even thou im a girl an i know people say thats what girls for....but im just like don't u get tired of all that? Tbh i know i would fight because i hate staying in a safe place just because im a girl....so i was just saying girls can fight too ....just because their girls doesn't mean they gotta be protected all the time ....
+Viktor VK After a full night of siege fighting, the Uruk numbers would have been diminished considerably. You can see in the Charge of the Rohirrim scene that the back of the horde is much closer to the wall than it is here.
Surrender? Saruman is a kind master, he doesn't kill all humans, he has humans fighting for him like dundeling. Theoden is a brutal king who is willing to sacrifice his people for his unrealistic fantasy of resistance
@sinkingships offools They could have done real damage if they'd stayed in the walls, hit them with oil and rock and arrows. Plus they had dragons. Air sweeps with fire wherever the swarming of the wights got too much. And the walkers didn't even join the fight so no danger to the dragons from ice spears. The NK stayed in the blizzard to maintain it so he was no active threat at least in the beginning. So many ways this could have gone well.
@sinkingships offools guys even tho s7 wasnt great I think got ended there at the ending. Either everyone died or beat the night king to your imagination
@@random4115 Yes, really. I twas spontaneous. The Uruk-Hai actors just started doing it of their own accord and the director and his colleagues really liked the idea. You can confrim this for yourself if you simply search for the behind the scenes documentary of The Two Towers or the Battle of Helms Deep.
The gut wrenching build up to the first arrow being fired then all hell breaks loose. Best battle sequence in cinema history, perfectly paced and perfectly filmed.
I think it was great up to season 3 or 4. I didn't watch it all. I have no problem with dragons and the army of zombies, I think that was all fine. But I'm bothered with little things. Like when Wildlings stormed The Wall. They released the barrels on Wildlings. Why did they just watch Mammoth tear the gates off? Surely they could have another set ready, with all the time they spent there. That defence sucked...... among other ones. And you have Dothraki riders slaughtered at Winterfell, but I guess not, since they celebrated the massacre of Kings Landing.
This scene pretty much makes the movie series. I am dead serious. I love the angles, the portrayals, the emotions, just everything. This was the transition from Fellowship to Return of the King. This illustrated the stakes and the war at the time. And to think there was another movie/chapter to go after this... Just wow. Goosebumps forever.
MY PLANS FOR AN IMPREGNABLE MOUNTAIN FORTRESS 1. I will not build a solid stone ramp right the way up to my main gate. This would render pointless my going to all the trouble of building a castle on the side of a mountain. 2. I will dig a ditch in front of the fortress, so that my enemies will have a tough time advancing. 3. I will invest in this new "moat" technology, as I have great faith in it. 4. I will put crenellations on top of my battlements, so that my archers have somewhere to hide while loading their bows. 5. I will put a bannister rail along the back of my battlements, so that I do not suffer many needless casualties from men falling off the wall. 6. I will install a drawbridge. I am convinced that this will help. 7. I will make my sally-port more substantial than a simple wooden door, and will locate it where it leads somewhere useful, rather than straight onto an isolated ledge. 8. Should I sally out from my fortress, I will take care not to start a charge while still inside a room in my keep, especially if I am on horseback. This will avoid sudden embarrassing congestion in the doorway. 9. I will place the mouthpiece of my signalling horn at a height convenient for a human blower, and not a dwarf. 10. Should my fortress be attacked, I will not defend it by putting my two best men alone on the outside amongst the mass of the enemy. 11. When I order my archers to draw bows, I will not wait for ages before giving the order to loose, because that would tire their arms out needlessly. 12. When I do give the order to loose, I will shout "loose", perhaps "release", or even "shoot". I will not shout "fire" as this will just confuse the men who are not armed with firearms. 13. I will build a curtain wall, and I will place it somewhere where it actually defends something useful, like the main keep. I will not place it off to one side of the keep, where it defends nothing more than a little muddy cul-de-sac. My enemies cannot be relied upon to waste their men attacking a useless structure. 14. I will make my main gate very strong, because there is a chance that my enemies might try hitting it with something like a battering ram. I will do this long in advance of a siege, and not leave it to the last possible minute. 15. Behind my main gate, I will place a port-cullis. This will make it very hard for enemies to enter. 16. Behind my port cullis, I will build many arrow slits either side of the path through the bastion, so that any enemies getting past the port cullis will be shot at from both sides. 17. In the floor of the bastion tower, I will put many murder holes, so that rocks and boiling water can be poured down onto anyone who gets past the port cullis. 18. I will place a second port cullis, and perhaps a second gate at the back of the bastion, so that any enemies who get through the first port cullis will be trapped in the bastion, while falling prey to 16, and 17 (above). 19. I will pick a location for my fortress that cannot be cut off easily. A poor location would be at the head of a very steep-sided narrow valley. 20. I will place my fortress where the enemy cannot climb up and rain rocks down on top of it from the mountain above.
+Nefus1988 And I, general of the attack army, will just starve you out by cutting off all your supply lines. This is how sieges usually went in history.
The Uruks came to make peace. The brought the traditional Uruk gifts of peacemaking (overly large spears), wore their finest ceremonial armor, and even thought to bring fire to their new friends so that they can warm up and dry off once the rain finished. I mean damn, they even brought ladders to get to the hard to reach places in Helms Deep (It's all walls and shit after all) to help with repairs and decoration. So thoughtful. Then that vicious old man struck down an innocent Uruk and doomed Middle Earth to years of war. That bastard.
Actually they were just knocking. See their boots were all muddy because of the long, arduous march in the rain and they were worried about getting things dirty. So they just stood back and pounded their spears rather than leave muddy tracks up the causeway and by the door. So polite.
As a kid, I always wondered why Aragorn was so angry for that early shot being fired (after all, it was a great shot), but then I realized that the entire point of this "battle" was never to win. It was all about perseverance, banking on Gandalf fulfilling his promise at "first light." In firing that early shot, that man shortened the delay of the enemy's advance. Every second of delay in the enemy's attack was less lives they would potentially lose, so causing the enemy's immediate action would cost them dearly (and even jeopardize their survival altogether).
I absolutely love that the spear-stomping was a between scenes improvasation by the Uruk-Hai stunt team to intimidate the "star actors" and it made it into the film after everyone LOVED it. :)
And we could actually see this one. Imagine that. I got a migraine last night, even though it was still a great scene. Peter Jackson is the GOAT and this battle will never be topped ever, IMO.
See how strategical the uruk-hai army is, sending first the uruk-hai berserkers as initiators to establish footholds before the main bulk of the army ascends the ladders
Soldier in Winterfell: i like this place, it has good solid rock. Random voiceover: good rock that we will not being using for cover (Credit to Ralph Bakshi's poor adaptation & the Nostalgia Critic when he compared these two films back when he was actually entertaining)
I remember being frightened as a child when I first saw this scene. The tension, the horror...truly magnificent. Even now I feel some chills re-watching it. I can't say the same about The Battle of Winterfell, which everyone was waiting for and it should've been the high peak of the show. Battle of Helm remains the greatest battle of all times.
I legit thought they'd all die, or at least the way the sequence is shot makes you genuinely feel the horror of the situation that the defenders would have felt. Like, y'all are literally bout to die by orcs storming in and invading your castle. Shit legit terrified me, it was one of the first moments I can remember where I actually had a sense of dread. The movies were fucking perfect
Imagine being that one Uruk, born just days ago, armoured, and sent to Helms deep with the promise of victory and the taste of man-flesh, only to fall by a stray arrow before the fighting even starts while you're still getting hyped up.
This is how a nighttime battle should be done. It's dark but COMPLETELY visible. I love Game of Thrones but they have to learn this lesson. EDIT: I take it back. What the fuck happened.
Tbh the battle with the wildlings and giants and mammoths was probably their biggest battle and they did not disappoint, I think that they raised the bar so high that they couldn't even compete with themselves
Just pondering the logistics of this scene; there were three hundred men in Helms Deep, plus another three hundred elves led by Haldir. In medieval England, most archers were able to shoot their bows around six times a minute, or an arrow every ten seconds. Some of the Rohan defenders wouldn't be quite as capable as that, but let's assume the proficiency of the elves makes up for their shortcomings. That currently means there are 3'600 arrows flying loose from the walls of Helms Deep every minute, or 21'600 arrows every hour. The main portion of the shooting lasts from around midnight to the point when the wall is breached, at say 3 in the morning. That means, allowing for casualties and those who continued shooting after the body of fighting fell to swords, that somewhere in the region of 64'800 arrows were shot from Helms Deep. TL;DR; Holy shit, that was a lot of arrows.
+Zombiewithabowtie And some poor soul has to account for them. What, do you think arrows grow on trees? OK, they do partially; but there's more to an arrow than just the shaft-no, I didn't mean it that way!
Man, you really had to see this at the cinemas back in 2002. I loved all three films, but there was something about the Battle of Helms Deep on the big screen; the rain and thunder, the chanting Uruk-Hai, the mothers clutching their children in the caves, while the defenders above ground were soaked to the bone, their courage wilting.
I'll try and help translate with my little knowledge of the Black Speech from 2:45 and forth "Dylan?!" "NOOOO!!!" "URGHHHH" "WHYYYY?!?! "FOR DYLAN!!!" **raises sword**
+Dinglie Danglie Doodle Dylan was struck down a week before retirement. He always inspired courage into his comrades with his beautiful folk songs. RIP
UNARMED BLACK URUK HAI KILLED BY ROHIRRIM Helms Deep, Middle Earth, Third Age of men A middle earth community is outraged after they say an unarmed Uruk Hai was shot and killed by Rohan police. Rohan police chief Theoden says the events started around 10pm when they say young Uruk teen Azog tresspassed into Helms deep along with 10,000 of his friends with the intent to pillage this quiet little community. A yet to be identified officer shot Azog in the neck after he pulled a spear on them which was later found at the scene. Fellow Uruk Hais, however, tell a different story. "He had his hands up! He was getting ready to surrender! "One berserker adds Azog's family is in mourning and disbelief in what they call the murder of their son. " He was a good boy! Getting ready to turn his life around and and get a job in Minas Mogul. He didn't do nuffin! " Meanwhile, Uruk Hai rights activist Sauron made these statements today out of a press conference in Mordor." how long are they gonna keep killing and oppressing unlike this!? Men and Elves of middle earth are prejudiced towards young black Uruk!" #UrukHailivesmatter Protests have begun to emerge just outside of Gondor.
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RIP Bruce Allpress the best grandpa archer to grace the face of middle earth.
Rest in Peace! :(
HAIL THE VICTORIOUS DEAD
@@quinmatthew1 HAIL!
Yeah he killed over twenty thousand Uruk hai and also his allies , elves, and boromir
@G E T R E K T 905 And 2,000 more when he used his arrows
It’s only now that I realize Aragorn called out ‘Hold!!’ in Elvish because he believed that that arrow shot was so brilliant that only an Elf could have made it.
That old Rohan archer should be proud!!
I really hope the old boy survived when the enemy breached the walls.
Holy crap that makes sense! Gives more hilarity to the situation, he wouldn’t know who fired and that shot was impeccable
According to the book no one survived the battle except the important folks
@@dewaynerichardson5895 “I realise the [author] has made a decision but given that it’s a stupid-ass decision I’m electing to ignore it.”
Yeah, the books involve heavy casualties and losses, don’t involve elves at Helm’s Deep and had a bigger cavalry charge out of the fortress. But we like to imagine everything ended up okay anyway.
I think the old archer released by mistake,
Its nice to think that but what makes more sense and most likely is that he was just making sure they didnt start to fire after the Rohirrim soldier thinking a volley was started
Funny how the show runners said the battle of winterfell would rival the battle of helms deep LMFAO not even close.
The Long Night looks like something done by amateurs with a big budget next to this masterpiece.
Yea it was trash haha but the battle of castle black I thought was just as good
I couldn't even see what was going on winterfell it was wayy too dark
pretty sure book version will tbh
Maybe it would've but WE FUCKIN COULDN'T SEE SHIT!
Gimli is sometimes criticised for being too comedic in the Peter Jackson movies, but I love how hyped up he is in battle scenes, dude is utterly fearless and revels in melee combat like a true warrior
The man showed no fear in battle
dwarfes live to minining, forging and war. thats why.
GOTREK SON OF GURNEY, IS THAT YOU?
Oh yeah, he got a 10/10 bloodlust as soon as the battle started
Dwarves are not one to be messed with.
Things turned ugly real quick when Bob was killed, who was popular amongst his fellow Uruk's for his great singing voice and tapdancing skills.
+Willem Verheij LOL!
In memory of Bob
You sir are a legend. #RememberBob
Well, that escalated quickly. I mean, that really got of hand fast. Bob and his friends only wanted to sing for the Rohirrim and praise their glory. ;_;
Son Goku Rip in peace Bob, 2002-2002 ;_;
Still cant believe how well they represented a universe which is literally impossible to convert from the books. God damn we are such a lucky generation to see these incredible movies in theater
I love these movies, great memories with my dad seeing them in theaters, he may be a strong silent type but dammit he introduced me to this and I've loved it ever since, I remember not wanting to watch lotr 1 because I thought it was stupid lol boyyyy xD
Imagine in 100 years, director(s) make films for all of Tolkien's books that matches LOTR quality....sad we won't be able to witness the possibility
@@sooshiguy Thats why it is best to be happy with the fact that we actually got to witness it. The entire trilogy was incredible to view when it first came out. It still holds.
Agreed my friend ❤️👏👏👍 so it begins😦😧😯😮
@@M.Elle- if only i could say the same with amazon transgender and black elfs lord of the rings
The only movie battle that actually makes me feel scared of being in a scenario like that. So powerful a scene.
Go and see the firts 20 min of Saving Private Ryan
@@jorgerubio1629 but thats not scary
@@jorgerubio1629 Were you spooked that that portrayal of a World War? It wasn't that intense...
@@jorgerubio1629 try Panfilov's 28.
@@jorgerubio1629 Imagine seeing that horde outside your housr
"Ladders!"
"GOOD!"
Gimli is an absolute lad.
Gimli at 4:27 is my spirit animal
Absolute madlad**
One word of Sindarin he readily understood.
@@sjh3217 He's a dwarf, they're elves, his education on Sindarin was probably limited to insults and military terminology.
@@Nannada1212 Chad madlad
Must suck to be that first uruk-hai killed - Having walked for several days, marching to battle, only to be killed, before the fight even starts lol. Bummer.
+SuperBoltx 2.0 you'd be dead so no need to be pissed. At least you're free from Sauron and you'd be burning in hell lol
+SuperBoltx 2.0 No you'd be dead.
I think that's a sentiment a lot of soldiers feel when they're the first to go down
Think about the Uruk-hai at the back. I can just imagine them saying" hay what's going out up there.I want to fight too you know".
yeah...you know each time I watch this I'm reminded of that one photo of a soldier who got gunned on in Normandy by the nazis before even being able to get out of the amphibious boat...really sad...
Sixteen years later, I still believe that LOTR is one of the best films in the history of humankind.
Acdragonrider Videos all three of them
Yep
One of the best? I think they're the best movies of all time. I've seen each one about 10 times, and will keep watching them.
Acdragonrider Videos the best film you mean
Agreed, my most rewatched movies ever.
My favorite thing about this battle is that Aragorn, a Man, is commanding an Elvish unit. He’s such a highly respected warrior and leader that his authority crosses racial and national boundaries.
i think it has something to do with that he is a Dunedain.
he was raised in rivendell, he was also dunedain, and he was the heir of isildur. plus those elves were sent by elrond and galadriel. they were also led by haldir, someone who knew aragorn very well.
"You were quick enough to trust the elves!"
~Lord boromir of Gondor
Because he was raised as an elf. Elrond was his adoptive father after his parents were killed
Elven*, elvish is the language.
RIP Bruce Allpress, also known as Aldor, the Rohan archer who shot the first arrow against the uruk army
First blood
CVBlizzard992 and also known as the Bowmaster of Helms Deep. The legend.
@@evilTaker90V2 also known as the guy who started the war earlier and their fore got more of his dudes killed
@@Comet_373 Necessary sacrifice
It’s kinda hard to handle a arrow with what he wearing and the rain
15 years later, and this battle was still better than the one on winterfell~
notice me, senpai!!!
Hory shet gloco didn't expect to see you here
That's right my friend.
Hell even the 1 minute of action in the clip was better than the entire battle of winterfell. Clearly the GOT directors had no idea what they were doing
Omg Gloco!!!
That scary chanting with the spears was not actually planned. The actors just started doing it and Peter liked it so they kept it. :)
Badass indeed!
Emmanuel Corral no they hired 10 000 people for this scene
Emmanuel Corral That was my humble attempt at sarcasm.
This is why the Hobbit will never be as good of a trilogy as LOTR, the unplanned stuff real people do beat the stale battlescenes in the Hobbit. especially with BOT5A
A number of them were real soldiers so they were just doing normal stuff for them.
Dothraki "Why didn't we have a director like this?" :(
"Your people can`t fight..."
Really...?
Hue hue hue ha ha ha ha haaa...
I hate Dothrakii, so i enjoyed how they punked out
@@heretyk_1337 Karma is a bitch for that Dothraki trash who said that
cuz you are one of many shits that dont really know anything about them really so you just go hate on shit without even trying to figure it out
For the plot is dumb and full of errors.
@@blacktigerpaw1 🤣👍
2:25 when it cuts from the women and children to outside with them chanting always gives me chills, such brilliant directing. These two shots made this simply terrifying
The way the sound of chanting changes with the shots is also really effective. Introduce the new element while viewing frightened people's reaction in the caves then get the full force when the shot goes back outside.
Setting the stakes one last time to remind you that if our heroes fail, all those women and children will be brutally murdered by monsters
Eh not for me. That quick exposure does nothing for me.
I have the same complaint with this scene as I have with Game of Thrones' handling of the Ygritte battle scenes. There should have been a lot more women armed and fighting. Men might die during and after a battle, but they die cleanly and quickly. We women have a LOT more to lose. Under the circumstances, I sure as hell wouldn't have been cowering down in the deep.
@@pricklypear7516 Historically speaking, women would certainly not just wait in some cave or whatever. They weren't really expected to fight (although there are documented cases of women taking up arms and do it anyway, most famously Jeanne Laisné), but in such a situation where you are under siege and the worst will happen if you lose, they would certainly help in every way they could, bringing arrows to archers, extinguish fires, cook water (or nasty things like urine) to pour it on enemies from the walls, treat the wounded ect. .
The orcs were so much more fearsome and realistic without all that CGI crap they used in the Hobbits. I like the old way so much more.
The Bengal cool story bro
+Alexandru This is the "old way." The op was referring to the fact that in the Hobbit trilogy most of the orcs are CGI instead of actors in costume.
If you watch the BTS, they actually do use lots of real stunt men for the battles. However, Peter had no time due to the studio to blend it well enough with the cgi ones. The Hobbit being bad wasn’t Peters fault at all, it’s the studio that wanted him to pump out 3 movies in 3 years. Go watch the BTS because he’s a nervous and depressed wreck in them. He at least had 3 years of pre-production with LOTR, while the Hobbit had maybe a year and a few months.
The Hobbit used costumes too
Cgi is cheap. Profit rules all
Battle of Winterfell has NOTHING on this siege. Helms Deep forever.
Don't get me wrong, the battle of Helms Deep is outright amazing and better.
But the Battle of Winterfell wasn't THAT bad. Not that well written but considering that it's just a TV show instead of a movie, it's not too shabby tbh.
I could actually see the battle
@@jasonsantos6430 Battle of Winterfell was literally the FOCUS of S8 according to the writers. They took an EXTRA year to film S8 just for the Battle of Winterfell. They had a HIGHER BUDGET and better gear and equipment to make the battle.
Yet you got a piss poor pile of dogshit considering all of that effort that was put in, the writers said it would be better than helms deep. It's not even comparable. To be fair it's not really all about the cinematics, it was alright but the writing is what really killed the battle of winterfell.
Dave The Barbarian balls deep all the way
No :)
It's night time but I can somehow see everything.....what is this trickery?
Moonlight and torches
RedTeamReview not being awfully directed
It's gotten to a point that without context we can still tell that this is a jab at Game of Thrones Season 8.
LMAO and the next thing you're going to say will be "Better than Battle of the Winterfell"
@Piero Cadavieco Soria It's a JOJO reference+ Game of Thrones
This shot at 4:15 is just so perfectly done. The Isengard theme rising while the ladders go up one at a time, cinematic perfection!
You're so right man it's magical
Isengard unleashed.
You know shit just got real when those ladders went up I remember the theatre was silent in awe 🫢
Fcking goosebumps
What gives me chills about it n why i like it cause it was so coordinated so tactical sending berserkers attop with the ladders
"What's happening out there?!"
-Literally every GOT fan during The battle of Winterfell.
Shall I describe it to you? Or would you like me to get you night vision goggles
Legolas would say "Want me to describe it? Or bring you a flashlight?"
It's like watching with a blindfold on
Lmfao 😂😂
Except the ones who know how to use the brightness bar and watched it on a decent screen.
THIS is how you do a movie battle. Beautifully shot, beautifully edited. Masterful film-making. The Battle of Winterfell has absolutely nothing on this
Sometimes people forget game of thrones is a series not the same budget as a movie
@@XceXaX They probably had the same budget in relative terms. Hell it still has the production values of LOTR if nothing else.
@@XceXaX But the GOT team hyped it up
@@XceXaX It's also LITERALLY the biggest TV show on the planet right now. I think they're doing fine, budget wise.
shame on us to believe in theme isn't it ?, anyway never trust a showrunner or producer that's their job to convince us to watch their show, is not a justification but if you go with low expectations good things will happen. Of course i was not expecting something as LOTR but i didn't feel disappointed.
God this is infinitely better than the Battle of Winterfell
Reuben Claypole way better
Dont mention that abortion of a storyline.
so fucking true
You're supposed to make your stand on the wall. Not outside it
@@calvinjohn1721 Exactly. Dothrakis are known for archery....fucking have them on the walls firing volleys.
I will always be pissed at the fact that I wasn’t born earlier to have a privilege to see this masterpiece in the theaters.
Me too, but recently in my country they brought the trilogy back to the cinema and despite knowing it by heart it was amazing!
@@sidzv I wish I could relive it all over again. It was a wonderful experience
😌
I was around 10 years old the first movie came out so I could have seen it in theaters but we were poor and my parents thought movie tickets were a waste of money... I did grow up watching them on DVD and TV though and rewatch them once a year... the greatest trilogy of films ever made
It was an amazing experience!
Random old conscripted dude accidentally lets go of string and manages to hit Orc squarely in armor's weak spot. Legolas master bow elf fails to kill lightly armored olympic torch bearer running in straight line on cleared path
Lmfao
+Damuse8191 hahaha
+Damuse8191 difference tho, beserkers aint your average urak hai :P
+Damuse8191 is not the same as a moving target that one static...
RuizDream Considering he can perfectly snipe wargs from super far away I would say the running dude that was right below him at the wall should be a walk in the park.
2:39 In case you’re wondering what Theoden is thinking: “One down, 9,999 to go”
Wwhwhaaaa
I wanted to ask, as soon as that first shot was taken, why didn’t the rest of the men shoot the arrow?
@@nintendo8127 because they wait for the command to execute volleys
@@nintendo8127 he slipped and wasn’t meant to shoot the arrow.
Oh... I thought he was re-thinking the buttered corn on the cob as rations.
2:40
There Bob was, cheering with the rest of us, having the time of his life. We thought it would last forever.
Then the arrow came.
It came without warning. We watched Bob fall. Everyone fell silent, smitten with shock and utter horror. One moment he was there, then he was gone...gone forever.
Then the shouting started. Uruk-hai started shouting Bob's name at the top of their lungs. Rage overtook us in an instant. It was in this moment that Chad (the dude on the rock) raised his sword and screamed into the rain.
It was a cry that would forever be remembered among the Uruk-hai. It was a shout full of pain, sorrow and unquenchable rage.
"FOR BOB!!!"
😂😂😂
You paint quite a picture.
For some reason, I am reading that in Morgan Freeman's voice.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BOOOOOOOOOOOOB
Screamed into the rain 🤣 I just peed myself
#neverforgetbob 😥
I love how the Uruks first action when arriving is to unnerve the enemy before attacking, hence they spend a good minute making as much noise as possible to both hype themselves and scare the ever living daylights out of Grandpa
Lol
Didn't workout like they thought though
I never thought of it like that. I just thought they were just doing it for celebration the march was over or To begin the assault with a burst of energy. But to scare and unnerve the Defendants is deffinately something i would have never have thought myself thank you!
The stamping was actually unintended.. The extras playing the uruk hai were bored of standing and some started to pound the spears and the others followed.. Peter thought it was excellent and adopted it..
Came here to shake off the disappointment of The Battle of Winterfell
Truly brother truly
So i'm not alone..
We are all in good company then
@Winterhascome Or well shot.
@Winterhascome Not it wasn't, there are constantly shots of 10's of zombies surrounded 1 or 2 people just to cut away and cut back later and there's no zombies there now.
I remember walking around the mall with my family and the Best Buy playing this on their biggest tv; there were dozens of people that stopped just to watch this one part.
Dude that’s awesome
Early 2000s were epic
@@josephmorris4232 Yup. Same with when The Return of the King came out. Made going to Future Shop as a kid that much more fun.
Same I was like 9 years old and the DVDS were out so I sat there and watched the movie on the Walmart Supercenter big screen TV in the electronics area. There was adults and kids just sitting there I spent 40 minutes maybe an hour watching it then it was time to go.
This has to be the most terrifying build-up scene to a battle in the history of movies. I remember sitting in the theater watching this, shivering with terror right along with those women and children huddled underneath Helm's Deep. The whole scene is an absolute masterpiece of fear and suspense. Magnificent.
Fun fact the chanting was not planned the actors just did it and the director liked it and decided to keep it
Ramon Sanchez See that in my special features, it was the Samoan actors who started it.
If you like this then we have stuff in common...are u single
Except I hated the joking that had to always take place between the dwarf and the elf. It was not in the book - just added for the Disney effect. It took some of the tension, awe and majesticness out of this (and other) scenes. But that's really the only complaint I have about these great movies.
@@dnap2526 No.
What I love about this scene is the fact Aragorn is leading the Elven army. They were lead to Helms Deep by Haldir, he would be the equivalent to a commander or general in ranks of men. Even Legolas an Elvish Prince son of King Thranduil they do not follow.They follow Aragorn just out of the sheer respect they must have for the man, earned through tales and feats in war. Of course he grew up in Rivendell so some of the elves probably know him too. But from a military point they know they follow the true High King of Gondor, Isildurs heir, Elessar himself. What a moment.
Aragon is isildur´s air, he is the true king.
This is NOTHING LIKE the Battle of Winterfell.
For starters, you can see what's happening in THIS battle.
@Tom Tom And they lit is so poorly that they hoped we wouldn't notice!
We're through the looking glass here, people... ^_^
@@nrrork "TuRn Up YoUr BrIgHtNeSs StOoPiD" - Idiot
Fun fact: the majority of Uruk screams/groans were actually seal and walrus sounds
Don't forget the bull sound coming from the lead uruk on the rock.
I didn't know that. But it worked out so well...
I knew Uruks were a cross bread.....but evil unholy science of darkness has gone waaay to far this time...
Bro I know you! From that rap against that other guy, you were amazing bro.
Same goes for the cave troll in Fellowship.
This kicks the shit out of Battle of the Five Armies.
+relatedzombie Do you feel the same? It is more brutal this,more in the details,more drama,more realistic,dispare,hope,pasion,ah it gets me every time.Almost drop a tear from my eye
+relatedzombie I still like the battle of the Five Armies
+Lightingwarrior Hobbit movies shouldnt even be compared, they are cgi garbage
ltwargssf R I admit they weren't as good as LOTR, but its not their fault, since how can you surpass or match perfection? Still however I rather enjoyed the series, I won't deny they made some mistakes in the films, but they were still good in my opinion
i dont know man.. its so hard to watch, no realism, no passion, all cgi bs.. the original felt real, they can do movies like tht but people are getting dumber and more accpetable and shitty movies like hobbit are actually enjoyed by the mass general public.
It’s the details I appreciate more as I get older.
The Uruks send their berserkers up with the ladders because their unarmored and less likely to get pulled down by gravity. Likewise they clear a space, intimidate the enemy, and interrupt the constant stream of arrows that were decimating their front lines.
Also, it may just be me overthinking it, but I expect they had the ladder furthest toward the Hornburg rising first because there’s a spot where the line of archers is interrupted by the sudden height change in the wall. Or because that’s closest to where the Men, lesser skilled in archery, are stationed.
You can actually see the ladders get set up on the deeping wall where the elves were not the horn burg it self
Uruks had no idea Elves would be joining men, so this logic is slightly flawed,
3:41 Aragorn: FIREEEE
*one of the arrows hits Aragorns backhead*
*credits roll*
BoONeo hahahahahaha
Elves have friendly fire turned off don't you know ;)
Lmao i laugh so hard
joke on you, those are bows and arrows, not guns and bullets
so friendly… release?
well well well, how the turntables...
Well no as they are skilled so wouldn’t make a mistake like that.
The whole battle was caused by that old guy at 2:33. The Uruks just came to chant for a bit, and he had to go and take things too far!
It was a non peaceful protest and then shit got real when some crazy guy who probably shouldn't have had a fire arm went too far. Sounds familiar...
old man was also in hobbit movie lol
mircea dacia lorant brescia wait what? Which movie and what scene?
19torento A year later and you predicted a lot of shit.
That's them being bros lol
This is the gold standard of fantasy battle scenes. The set up to it, The music, the lighting, the dialog, the archers, the sword fighting, the climax and Gandalf at the end. They set the bar really high on this one.
Nearly 20 years later not even close to being surpassed. Amazing!
@@matthewbilich6175 "Nearly 20 years later and not even close to being surpassed."
Siege of Minas Tirith and Battle of Pelennor Fields literally a year later: Are we a joke to you?
Trudat
Only thing comes close was the battle at Troy's wall. From the movie Troy.
Shall I find you a box?
Rip Bruce Allpress, the guy who fired that arrow
No!!!!
He was my favorite also, the character’s name is Aldor.
LOTR filmed in 2002. GoT 2018.
2 best battles in fantasy, Helms Deep and Minas-tirit.
After all these years ? Always.
Love that Harry Potter quote in the end :)))
Don’t forget pelenor fields
@@chandlerbing1800 I think he meant pelenor fields when he said battle of minas tirith
Apparently the actors who played the Uruks got tired of waiting around in the set and just randomly started to hit the ground with their spears. Jackson liked it so much he decided to include it into the film.
Apparently that's bullshit
ian maclean
No it's fact, here is more:
During the long nightshoot at Helm's Deep, the Orcs had to find ways to entertain themselves. Sala Baker comments, "We had about 60 guys singing in the middle of the night-- singing and waiting for the next shot. It was really cool. The crew would join in.. it was a way to keep ourselves amused. The guitar would come out, and all those Uruk-hai and beserkers sat around jamming!
Billy Boyd also says, "To keep up morale, they would bring a band in-- a string quartet or something-- during lunch. It was nice. One day, they brought this jazz band in, and someone in full Uruk-hai costume started dancing. I remember thinking that was quite bizarre. You never really sat with the Uruk-hai, even at lunch! You knew the people, but the Hobbits didn't sit with the Uruk-hai! We're sitting there watching this guy dancing, and I thought, "That's something you don't see every day."
Vampirewolfking cool to know xd
ian maclean its true go watch the outtakes
wouldnt happen in today's movies tho, too much cgi ahah
2:41 NO! Uruk 2,503!
Uruk 1: He was my best friend!
Uruk 2: He had a family you bastards!
Uruk 3: He was my cousin's godfather!
Uruk on rock: SHOW THEM NO MERCY! FOR URUK 2,503!
Uruk 4: FOR 2,503!
For Jerry!
Uruk 4: Yeah for Jerry! Took me a while to figure out his name but D'oooh I want vengeance!
Jared Blocker Search "lego orcs" by Brotherhood workshop.
SlyBiffrons THAT WAS PERFECT!
How did a movie shot in the year 2000 have better lighting than literally every fantasy show 20 years later
Better lighting than the Battle in the Shadows of Winterfell.
Andrew Lesnie the genius
This...ladies and gentlemen...is the father of all movie battles.
Will the Battle of Winterfell from Game of Thrones top it next week? I guess we’ll find out in one week.
@@SARGEHALO666v2 eh. This battle took 120 days to film, while the battle of Winterfell only took 55 days. I'm sure it will be absolutely incredible, but I'm not sure it'll surpass this
@@dfredi9609 the directors of the lord of the rings said the battle of winterfell surpass this
@@ryanharris7891 Peter Jackson never said it.
@@symonheiloguu maybe one of the screenwriters lol i can't remember, it was somebody high up in the making of LoTRs
02:31: SURRENDER! THERE ARE 10,000 ORCS BLOCKING YOUR WAY!
02:42: SURRENDER! THERE ARE 9,999 ORCS BLOCKING YOUR WAY!
@madison sanderson Am I the only one who understood this as a reference to Warcraft 3?
zug zug
Emmanuel Corral 10000 Palestinians vs 3000 Jews
oh 10,0000 battalions of uruk hai
10,000 battalions of Uruk
aragorn shot one down, he fell to the ground
9999 soldiers of uruk
The sound design as the Uruk-Hai start spiraling themselves into a battle fury to dishearten their enemy is amazing.
every sound made by an uruk is amazing
That was actually improvised by the actors when they were waiting for the filming to start surprisingly. Peter Jackson and the others loved it so much it was left in the final product
@@wolfman2.055is that true?
@@justsomeguy922r3yup
Majority of the stuntmen and actors are all Polynesian (Māori) and they did the war chant just because and Peter and the crew actually liked it so they kept it in the movie.
@@justsomeguy922r3 as far as i know, no its not. Uruks war chant was recorded on a New Zeland stadium. I searched about this fact and i only found a mention on a single page.
I love how the armor and weapons the Uruk-hai use reflects the new industrial nature of Isengard. They look mass produced and simple. But for the Elves and Rohan soldiers you can tell their armor and weapons were produced by skilled craftsman and blacksmiths and appear ornate as well.
Tolkien was a critic of the factory system and the effect that mass industrialization had on the countryside. His invention of Isengard was a clear example of this.
Wow, a battle in the dark which I can actually see what’s going on. Thank you Peter Jackson.
I remember when I saw this in the cinema back in 2002. Holy shit this was so intense. That tension... Best experience in a cinema EVER
We're a lucky generation to have experienced that trilogy in theaters, and I remember the endless arguments at school about what will the extra scenes be in the extended editions.
Good times. I think it was the last VHS I ever bought (I was living at my grand-parents house and they didn't have a DVD player).
Or maybe it was Star Wars: AOTC...
totally. Gandalf vs Balrog scene made me shit bricks also... I was like: no freaking way Gandalf is dead?! When the Uruk-hai berserker blew up the Helm's Deep wall I was like "Ok, that's it. They're gone." So much feelings.
I envy you man, born in 1999 so I didn't experience this in the cinema considering that it is my favorite movie trilogy I would have loved to see it.
It was really amazing. When you saw the approaching Uruk-hai army from the distance, appearing from the darkness with torches and when they blew up the Wall.. The feel of epicness and hopelessness at the same time from big screen.. Flawless!
I was lucky enough to get to see them in theaters on there 10 year. 11/10 would see again in theaters. was the extended special showings. so worth it
I finally was able to see LoTR for the first time, this is the single greatest battle I've seen out of any movie, BRAVO PETER JACKSON!
+JP RM i didn't watch these movies till 2013 :( (i have no idea why ive been a fan of other big movie series) although i had seen the part where they go into moria some years before, ive been feeling really jelous that i was left out but I guess not.
+Hugh B i still get the chills even if i have seen it so many times omg
+TheUngiftedGamer higher than rohirrim charge?
+TheUngiftedGamer Now the question is did you watch the theatrical or extended versions? Extended are way better imo!
pcshooter24 Bluray
The calm before the literal storm is just so good. I also love when the Uruks start slamming their spears on the ground. Such a good intimidation tactic, and that shot of all the orc’s just hauling ass at the wall is just phenomenal.
That really sucks....that uruk hai walked all the way from Isenguard to fight and didn't even get to run to the wall.....instead got shot by an old man. 2:42 STILL AN EPIC SCENE AND GREATEST MOVIE BATTLE OF ALL TIME.
Edit*: Gandalf Charge and Rohirrim Charge > Avengers Assemble...just my opinion don't hate lol.
Lol
Hussain Pradhan i would say they kill about 500 before they get the ladders up
Hussain Pradhan
Nah what really sucks for ALL orcs that walked all that way, was getting wiped out.
Because some smooth talking ego maniac wizard thought he could rule the world.
People fight back hard when you threaten to genocide them.
The old man shooting was right to shoot first, he knew they were their to kill everyone.
CreepyZone hmm maybe, all i know there was 500 Silvan Elves of Lothlórien
+Jay H Thing is though, they probably should have started shooting earlier. They would have taken out way more Orcs before the walls were breached. Granted with their superior numbers, the Orcs were bound to win if Gandalf & the Rohirrim didn't arrive.
Rohan has rewritten history, the truth is: The Uruks were there to sing some carols, however, being unappreciative of Uruk singing, they Rohan dishonorably killed one of the merry singers. The Uruks then decided to share their culture more aggressively.
In memory of Bob. #Orclivesmatter
Hahahahahahahahaha.....
Zachary Zier ah yes the daily one ring
So much orcophobic content on this website, smh...
The thing that really hits home for me are the scenes with the teenagers and elderly men being suited up with armor and given swords, basically being drafted because they needed all the men they could get. The women and children cowering in the safehold below. This reflects real historical events.
Tbh if i was im a situation like this ...tbh i be pissed because guys get to literally do everything and girls gotta play it safe all the time when they could be trained and capable of fighting and im a girl so i knew damn well i would of made myself look like a boy an went to war with them because its the best thing u can do to help instead of crying and huddle in a corner until everybodys dead ...im sorry but girls act like their queens all the time just because their girls and that they need to be protected. ..i may be a girl but im never like that ...i would go to war as long as its like this haha because havimg guns an bombs an shit is stupid and i think its cheating tbh ...i mean guns are cool too but i would love a war that was like this ...nothing but swords and bow an arrows and those rock cannon things....its so simple ...an u don't have to worry about a jam gun or anything like that or about the gun not working if u drop it a certain way or in water
myree chee men make better fighters due to biology .
@@italianlove5942 i know i was just saying....girls can be capable of fighting as well....as long as their trained.....they can help with something other then cooking,cleaning an whatever else girls do....i mean tbh i find that crap boring as heck even thou im a girl an i know people say thats what girls for....but im just like don't u get tired of all that? Tbh i know i would fight because i hate staying in a safe place just because im a girl....so i was just saying girls can fight too ....just because their girls doesn't mean they gotta be protected all the time ....
myree chee fair enough
@@italianlove5942 yeeeaahhh
Damn, that one Uruk died before the battle even started. And his homies felt sad for him. Rohan took it to far man...
1 down and only 9,999 left
2:43, My brother said this when we were in theaters: "Well, that was one Orc down. 9,999 to go."
janeyrevanescence12 When i first watched the movie i was disapointed that they didn't number in 10,000 anymore
If only that Uruk would have lived, they would have smashed those puny humans and elves
+Viktor VK There had to have been more because if 200 elves and 300 men with bows couldn't hold them back then shame on them!
+Viktor VK After a full night of siege fighting, the Uruk numbers would have been diminished considerably. You can see in the Charge of the Rohirrim scene that the back of the horde is much closer to the wall than it is here.
25k btw
The Orc at 2:50 gets me every time. If any of them survived the battle, I hope it was him.
+Patrick Rutledge Very unlikely as he was near the front.
Hahahahah for real is faces tho
Patrick Rutledge
They're not orcs
These are not some mindless orcs, These are Uruk Hai, There shields is big and their armor is thick
I bet he got mashed by an arrow
If my Orc buddy was shot first, I'd be pissed too
+Johniscool Isn't Uruk just a stronger orc? Uruk-Hai is probably the correct term to use here
+Captain Tobbs the Uruk-Hai are a Race of Orc's and they have more human like physhic's
EvilHorizon Okay, thanks for clearing that up for me.
+EvilHorizon uruk-hal are more stronger, smarter and more loyal to their master.
+Asskickingness2014 Hence we play Dwarfs !
3:33 The One Eyed Warrior most inspirational dude in the crew. Even with one eye he still wants to defend his people.
what else could he have done?
Surrender? Saruman is a kind master, he doesn't kill all humans, he has humans fighting for him like dundeling. Theoden is a brutal king who is willing to sacrifice his people for his unrealistic fantasy of resistance
@@СнежныйДжониUnrealistic? They literally won Lmao
I swear he got me sooooo hyped for this fight 😊
Unrealistic. They should have almost no archers on the wall and parked the army infront of the wall.
agreed, and they should build some catapults and put them in front of the army, and build some trenches and stay in front of it
Game of thrones sucks.
Park your army in front of an army of pikemen? You'd lose your army.
Your "opinion" is unrealistic
@daylon he is joking. He was talking about a show called game of thrones where they did that. It looked pretty stupid.
This is what real battle strategy looks like. Why charge an enemy you can't see when you have walls you can use.
Especially when said enemy doesn't have ladders like the Uruk-hai.
@@SevereArtisan Exactly
@sinkingships offools They could have done real damage if they'd stayed in the walls, hit them with oil and rock and arrows. Plus they had dragons. Air sweeps with fire wherever the swarming of the wights got too much. And the walkers didn't even join the fight so no danger to the dragons from ice spears. The NK stayed in the blizzard to maintain it so he was no active threat at least in the beginning. So many ways this could have gone well.
@sinkingships offools guys even tho s7 wasnt great I think got ended there at the ending. Either everyone died or beat the night king to your imagination
@sinkingships offools english aint my first language man
When they start banging their spears and armor at 2:00, that's some next level intense, intimidating shit.
And to think it was actually unscripted
Lawrence Dockery I
@@ossiroswarlock really?
yould of killed atleast 2k of them then with rapid vollys of arrows b4 they even knew what has happening
@@random4115 Yes, really. I twas spontaneous. The Uruk-Hai actors just started doing it of their own accord and the director and his colleagues really liked the idea. You can confrim this for yourself if you simply search for the behind the scenes documentary of The Two Towers or the Battle of Helms Deep.
The gut wrenching build up to the first arrow being fired then all hell breaks loose.
Best battle sequence in cinema history, perfectly paced and perfectly filmed.
Dude imagine people comparing GOT 8x3 to this... I love GOT but can't even come close to this masterpiece!
I think it was great up to season 3 or 4. I didn't watch it all. I have no problem with dragons and the army of zombies, I think that was all fine. But I'm bothered with little things. Like when Wildlings stormed The Wall. They released the barrels on Wildlings. Why did they just watch Mammoth tear the gates off? Surely they could have another set ready, with all the time they spent there. That defence sucked...... among other ones. And you have Dothraki riders slaughtered at Winterfell, but I guess not, since they celebrated the massacre of Kings Landing.
Still way better than the so called "Great Battle" of Winterfell we got.
The Battle of the Bastards was dope, sad they now make poop
No :) its worse
@@Юра-т8ж1г You should be a comedian
"Shall I describe it to you, or would you like me to find you a box?" Best line ever
*laughs in dwarvish*
funny how this line can describe with game of thrones 8x03
"Toss me.." - Gimli
@Andreas U. Hard agree.
This scene pretty much makes the movie series. I am dead serious.
I love the angles, the portrayals, the emotions, just everything. This was the transition from Fellowship to Return of the King. This illustrated the stakes and the war at the time. And to think there was another movie/chapter to go after this... Just wow. Goosebumps forever.
MY PLANS FOR AN IMPREGNABLE MOUNTAIN FORTRESS
1. I will not build a solid stone ramp right the way up to my main gate. This would render pointless my going to all the trouble of building a castle on the side of a mountain.
2. I will dig a ditch in front of the fortress, so that my enemies will have a tough time advancing.
3. I will invest in this new "moat" technology, as I have great faith in it.
4. I will put crenellations on top of my battlements, so that my archers have somewhere to hide while loading their bows.
5. I will put a bannister rail along the back of my battlements, so that I do not suffer many needless casualties from men falling off the wall.
6. I will install a drawbridge. I am convinced that this will help.
7. I will make my sally-port more substantial than a simple wooden door, and will locate it where it leads somewhere useful, rather than straight onto an isolated ledge.
8. Should I sally out from my fortress, I will take care not to start a charge while still inside a room in my keep, especially if I am on horseback. This will avoid sudden embarrassing congestion in the doorway.
9. I will place the mouthpiece of my signalling horn at a height convenient for a human blower, and not a dwarf.
10. Should my fortress be attacked, I will not defend it by putting my two best men alone on the outside amongst the mass of the enemy.
11. When I order my archers to draw bows, I will not wait for ages before giving the order to loose, because that would tire their arms out needlessly.
12. When I do give the order to loose, I will shout "loose", perhaps "release", or even "shoot". I will not shout "fire" as this will just confuse the men who are not armed with firearms.
13. I will build a curtain wall, and I will place it somewhere where it actually defends something useful, like the main keep. I will not place it off to one side of the keep, where it defends nothing more than a little muddy cul-de-sac. My enemies cannot be relied upon to waste their men attacking a useless structure.
14. I will make my main gate very strong, because there is a chance that my enemies might try hitting it with something like a battering ram. I will do this long in advance of a siege, and not leave it to the last possible minute.
15. Behind my main gate, I will place a port-cullis. This will make it very hard for enemies to enter.
16. Behind my port cullis, I will build many arrow slits either side of the path through the bastion, so that any enemies getting past the port cullis will be shot at from both sides.
17. In the floor of the bastion tower, I will put many murder holes, so that rocks and boiling water can be poured down onto anyone who gets past the port cullis.
18. I will place a second port cullis, and perhaps a second gate at the back of the bastion, so that any enemies who get through the first port cullis will be trapped in the bastion, while falling prey to 16, and 17 (above).
19. I will pick a location for my fortress that cannot be cut off easily. A poor location would be at the head of a very steep-sided narrow valley.
20. I will place my fortress where the enemy cannot climb up and rain rocks down on top of it from the mountain above.
+Nefus1988 A perfect fortress! I'm willing to serve you.
NickBlooddrunk I copied that text from Lindybiege from his website where he writes about Lord of the Rings
+Nefus1988 And I, general of the attack army, will just starve you out by cutting off all your supply lines. This is how sieges usually went in history.
Mate, what about the chance of a full scale siege, your enemies could just wait you out and starve you.
Just look up Festung Hohensalzburg, it's the perfect fortress.
Helms deep > Battle of Winterfell . nuff said
BoW doesnt even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Helm's Deep. That shit was just pure hot garbage.
there is an abyss between them
sure if you are 12 y/o kiddo :)
@@Юра-т8ж1г It's literally better in practically every way.
No. Helms Deep > Anything and Everything Else > Battle of Winterfell
The Uruks came to make peace. The brought the traditional Uruk gifts of peacemaking (overly large spears), wore their finest ceremonial armor, and even thought to bring fire to their new friends so that they can warm up and dry off once the rain finished. I mean damn, they even brought ladders to get to the hard to reach places in Helms Deep (It's all walls and shit after all) to help with repairs and decoration. So thoughtful. Then that vicious old man struck down an innocent Uruk and doomed Middle Earth to years of war. That bastard.
ayparillo That was a traditional greeting dance routine they were doing right?
Actually they were just knocking. See their boots were all muddy because of the long, arduous march in the rain and they were worried about getting things dirty. So they just stood back and pounded their spears rather than leave muddy tracks up the causeway and by the door. So polite.
ayparillo I thought they were setting a beat for the people of Helm's Deep to join in and make music together.
Is that you, CNN?
Rest in piece Bruce Allpress, the actor who played the old man who released his shot early.
piece?
22 dislikes? is this all you can conjure saruman?!
lmao
prob. the surviving uruk-hais disliking the video LOL
Saruman and a few orcs
He's still bitter, what a bitch.
saruman have no power here
Game Of Thrones don't have a place in this section... Lord of the rings is the ultimate masterpiece.
Agreeedd
Game of Thrones doesn't ask for a place. It takes what is his.
+Marat You know nothing Marat
Without LOTR there would be no GOT. It's that simple.
"Shame. Shame. Shame." U have no idea how stupid is ur comment. "Game of Thrones" is 4 adults and "Lord of the Rings" is 4 children.
Not even modern day battles in movies can top the battles of LOTR. Incredible.
+Provocateur you're not special
VideoSmarts1 Yeah but at least he lives up to his name...
As a kid, I always wondered why Aragorn was so angry for that early shot being fired (after all, it was a great shot), but then I realized that the entire point of this "battle" was never to win. It was all about perseverance, banking on Gandalf fulfilling his promise at "first light." In firing that early shot, that man shortened the delay of the enemy's advance. Every second of delay in the enemy's attack was less lives they would potentially lose, so causing the enemy's immediate action would cost them dearly (and even jeopardize their survival altogether).
Great insight
Great shot old man! Now do that exact same thing 9,999 more times
He would probably run out of arrows 😂
Aragon's mind-"What idiot fired" Old man's mind-" Oh f$&@ me"
He looked so panic when he shoot the arrow
mvp in my opinion hah
Because as we all know people in the lord of the rings are telepathically linked.
I absolutely love that the spear-stomping was a between scenes improvasation by the Uruk-Hai stunt team to intimidate the "star actors" and it made it into the film after everyone LOVED it. :)
3:40 - 3:47 Still the single greatest thing I've watched in a battle movie or TV series battle. That aggressive command from Aragorn... Goosebumps!!
I wonder what he did said (not the meaning, there's a subtitle for it. I mean the elvish he speaks)
4:16...still gives me chills to this day.
Like how those big dudes are riding up there to drop down on their enemies.
@@Wolf10media music too
Music, sound design... I especially love the sound of hundreds of elves drawing their swords at the exact same time
"SO IT BEGINS." Simply epic.
This is still better than the Battle of Winterfell
Far more better
Gargantuan Moist agreed
You can't compare crap with art, GoT sucks now
@@druidus1234 Nothing will top LOTR
and was made 17 years ago, rofl! GoT failed to get even close to this.
By far one of the greatest movie battle scenes in history - really the entire trilogy has battle scenes that are just about unbeatable.
Let's just pray that Battle of the Five Armies will also deliver!
Zerathoriel I think PJ will do it justice, Minas Tirith and Helms Deep are amazing, he will do well i trust
Zerathoriel i do not believe in god but man.. im praying since i have see the last hobbit movie!
Who you praying too then hahahaha. Can't wait for the battle of the five armies
Antonio Hernandez dont know yet but I hope it works ;)
Seeing this in theaters was literally a full experience! So happy my dad took me to see it bc I feel sorry for anyone who hasn’t!
Here after Battle of Winterfell to remind myself how an awesome night battle should look
And we could actually see this one. Imagine that. I got a migraine last night, even though it was still a great scene. Peter Jackson is the GOAT and this battle will never be topped ever, IMO.
Had to watch this to purge the disappointment from the Battle of Winterfell.
They called it a big fight but I saw nothing just like Jon snow knows nofing
Notice the amount of dedication they gave to archers... why not at Winterfell
See how strategical the uruk-hai army is, sending first the uruk-hai berserkers as initiators to establish footholds before the main bulk of the army ascends the ladders
FreedomFighter08 i don't think they came up with that themselves probably saruman communicating orders with some kind of spell
This battle scene to this day is still legendary. Long live the Lotr legacy.
Hey, look! They're IN the castle. What a novel idea.
Soldier in Winterfell: i like this place, it has good solid rock.
Random voiceover: good rock that we will not being using for cover
(Credit to Ralph Bakshi's poor adaptation & the Nostalgia Critic when he compared these two films back when he was actually entertaining)
I remember being frightened as a child when I first saw this scene. The tension, the horror...truly magnificent. Even now I feel some chills re-watching it. I can't say the same about The Battle of Winterfell, which everyone was waiting for and it should've been the high peak of the show. Battle of Helm remains the greatest battle of all times.
I legit thought they'd all die, or at least the way the sequence is shot makes you genuinely feel the horror of the situation that the defenders would have felt. Like, y'all are literally bout to die by orcs storming in and invading your castle. Shit legit terrified me, it was one of the first moments I can remember where I actually had a sense of dread. The movies were fucking perfect
Amazing how they made 300 angry New Zealanders look like 10,000 Uruks...
Cgi done right
The Persians felt similar way if you know what I mean.
The orcs stamping their spears on the ground. Was that orc haka? lol
Imagine being that one Uruk, born just days ago, armoured, and sent to Helms deep with the promise of victory and the taste of man-flesh, only to fall by a stray arrow before the fighting even starts while you're still getting hyped up.
This is how a nighttime battle should be done. It's dark but COMPLETELY visible. I love Game of Thrones but they have to learn this lesson.
EDIT: I take it back. What the fuck happened.
No time left for learning
Its the final season lmao what do u mean learn.
McZalion I mean for the next project D&D decides to butcher after this. This show is sadly not recovering
Yeah GoT is over man, they soiled it.
They should've put in a moon in the sky like they did in this movie.
Battle of Winterfell: *says is going to be the biggest battle it TV and cinema history*
Battle of Helm Deep: I am a joke to you?
Where did they compare Game of thrones to helms deep?
@@minutemengeneral1324 everywhere
Tbh the battle with the wildlings and giants and mammoths was probably their biggest battle and they did not disappoint, I think that they raised the bar so high that they couldn't even compete with themselves
Don’t forget the battle at plennor fields and minas tirth
Just pondering the logistics of this scene;
there were three hundred men in Helms Deep, plus another three hundred elves led by Haldir. In medieval England, most archers were able to shoot their bows around six times a minute, or an arrow every ten seconds. Some of the Rohan defenders wouldn't be quite as capable as that, but let's assume the proficiency of the elves makes up for their shortcomings. That currently means there are 3'600 arrows flying loose from the walls of Helms Deep every minute, or 21'600 arrows every hour. The main portion of the shooting lasts from around midnight to the point when the wall is breached, at say 3 in the morning. That means, allowing for casualties and those who continued shooting after the body of fighting fell to swords, that somewhere in the region of 64'800 arrows were shot from Helms Deep.
TL;DR; Holy shit, that was a lot of arrows.
+Zombiewithabowtie And some poor soul has to account for them. What, do you think arrows grow on trees? OK, they do partially; but there's more to an arrow than just the shaft-no, I didn't mean it that way!
+Zombiewithabowtie They would run out of arrows.
you should suggest a theory suggestion for the film theorist lol
Don't forgot, the top portion of the wall stopped firing arrows once ladders were in play
Man, you really had to see this at the cinemas back in 2002. I loved all three films, but there was something about the Battle of Helms Deep on the big screen; the rain and thunder, the chanting Uruk-Hai, the mothers clutching their children in the caves, while the defenders above ground were soaked to the bone, their courage wilting.
I'll try and help translate with my little knowledge of the Black Speech from 2:45 and forth
"Dylan?!"
"NOOOO!!!"
"URGHHHH"
"WHYYYY?!?!
"FOR DYLAN!!!" **raises sword**
Haha lol
+Dinglie Danglie Doodle lmfao man.
+Dinglie Danglie Doodle Its not really black speach, imo they are just shouting
+Dinglie Danglie Doodle Dylan was struck down a week before retirement. He always inspired courage into his comrades with his beautiful folk songs. RIP
More like...
"MMMMMMMMMMMM"
"HWAAAARGH"
"HEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
"HWAAAAARGH"
"00000000000000000000000000"
"the battle of winterfell will be better that this"
Me: 1:58
sun praiser I LAUGHTER REAAAAALLY HARD XDDD
Me at 2:02
Hahaha
😂😂😂
This got me laughing good hahaha
UNARMED BLACK URUK HAI KILLED BY ROHIRRIM
Helms Deep, Middle Earth, Third Age of men
A middle earth community is outraged after they say an unarmed Uruk Hai was shot and killed by Rohan police. Rohan police chief Theoden says the events started around 10pm when they say young Uruk teen Azog tresspassed into Helms deep along with 10,000 of his friends with the intent to pillage this quiet little community. A yet to be identified officer shot Azog in the neck after he pulled a spear on them which was later found at the scene.
Fellow Uruk Hais, however, tell a different story.
"He had his hands up! He was getting ready to surrender! "One berserker adds
Azog's family is in mourning and disbelief in what they call the murder of their son. " He was a good boy! Getting ready to turn his life around and and get a job in Minas Mogul. He didn't do nuffin! "
Meanwhile, Uruk Hai rights activist Sauron made these statements today out of a press conference in Mordor." how long are they gonna keep killing and oppressing unlike this!? Men and Elves of middle earth are prejudiced towards young black Uruk!" #UrukHailivesmatter
Protests have begun to emerge just outside of Gondor.
+Philgoodd222 That was gold LMAO
+Philgoodd222 One word. GOLD.
Oh my gosh that was the best thing I've seen so far!
This should get some commedy award. :)
best thing ever
Love the touch 3:11 , you can hear other the other elves doing to call to start firing the arrows from far away after aragorn
YES! was looking for this comment! really like that they did that!!