Yep I have the graves on my 21 r1 and I love it. It’s perfect. I did have the same akra as well but it had too many extra pieces like the shield and the adapter needed to mount it. It all kept coming loose. Lost bolts too. Plus the akra left too much of a space underneath the bike whereas the graves is nice an tucked. Imo graves is top quality, sounds awesome, looks awesome. Perfect welds etc …and it’s American !
I know this is old but god damn...go to a freaking hardware store and get a bolt some washers, and a Teflon nut. You wouldn't have to worry about lock tight and problem solved.
I have mentioned this in other comments. Akra has specific washers to not crush the carbon shield. Of course I could have got some hardware to fix it. Also for resale value, it helps to have original hardware. Even though I have the other exhaust installed, I have yet to receive the hardware from Akra. Its been 6 months.
Graves is slowly growing on me; plus when you said 'Made in America' - that had me; I used US made slips - Hot Bodies (for my H2 - yup) and Coffman for my zx6r. My next one will be a graves. Great vides, ride safe.
Yes, Akra is an amazing company. But when problems like this arrive, I dont have a choice. Im not going to get some hardware from Home Depot and crack the carbon. Its been 9 months and still havent received the Akra parts even though the R1 is sold.
I think this video might’ve changed my mind about getting an Akra pipe 😅. You should show the process of using the BrenTuning handheld once you get it👍 PS, I had issues with my purple panda before too, my wire connections looked like they were good but I was able to “click” them together another notch and it fixed the issue. Maybe unplug everything and re-plug it all and make sure they’re in all the way
Will definitely be doing a video with the Tune! So I think I got a bad panda. I pulled it out and checked all contections and tried again and it’s straight static.
Smart choice. I was waiting to see if you went with Graves. I’m gonna get this same bike and exhaust lol thanks for vids!! I had a 17’ R1 with a mid pipe and graves slip on it sounded so good I miss it. Was debating BMW or V4 but honesty for the money the R1 with the crossplane was awesome.
I would pick a Yamaha over the BMW any day. Save the change to make the bike your own ya know? That’s why I didn’t get the R1M. Also don’t want active suspension.
I am not a big fan of how Graves look, I’m kind more towards the European style. But Graves looks fantastic on your bike. The black theme is looking real good. Also the sound is awesome. Planning on muting an Akra, but honestly your video made me give it another thought.
This is the only graves can I’ve actually loved the look of or else I would have stuck it out and fixed the akra. Your right it looks good with the blacked out look too! I do like the graves sound more, it just sounds deeper!
Nice bike and cool mods. I'm glad that akra didn't fly off. The bolts taking a couple of weeks are a joke. Lesson learned; always use lock tight. I learned thr hard way too. Lol. That graves looks better IMO.
Very true! I am using locktight and nylon nuts with everything now! I love Akra and respect the R&D with their products, but having Graves down the street and the all black can has always been the exhaust I've wanted.
Funny, I just swapped my Akrapovic link and slip-on for a Graves Full R1 system on my FZ-10. Also to fix your GoPro audio turn OFF voice controls. It should fix the audio popping you hear on playback.
Funny we made the same swap. Graves for the win! So the audio issues are a bit more complicated as wind is off and raw audio is off as well. I will turn off voice controls and try that as well. I believe I had a defective purple panda, so I swapped to a different mic and then had wild clipping and wind noise. New mic on the way, purchased a quieter helmet and some better wind socks. Hopefully this will fix it because I had some great content that was lost!
You got Hero 9 or 10? I have Hero 10 with purple panda, and I had to use a TRRS to TRS adapter for mines to work correctly. Purple Panda has a TRRS connector at the end, and I think they send the TRS adapter with the kit when you buy it. I hope that helps.
Well Akrapovic is not just a European company...it's the biggest exhaust system company Involved in motorsports with its own composite And titanium foundry in the world my friend...top quality titanium compared to only japanese grade 1 titanium...and its not a big of a deal to go to your local hardware store and get a bolt with a nut & washer which would cost you almost nothing! Although I have to say Graves is also quality manufacturer too.
I agree with Akra’s quality respect the brand entirely. I just wish it wasn’t so hard to some simple bolts and washers. Yes I could just throw some one but with the car bib heat shield I’m sure the bolts are designed so it does crush it once torqued.
@@MotoViceOfficial I had Akrapovic full on my r1 also...but when I did motor work I got the arata generation full ti-carbon system...which is race level pipe. Anyways...I watched all your videos with the r1 ...good editing also. You must lay your hands on some carbon fiber bits asap!👌
Are you using the adapter that goes with the purple panda? You can’t connect the mic directly to the media mod it won’t work You have to use the mic into the adapter and then into the media mod. I had that same issue when I first got my purple panda. Let me know if this helps
@@MotoViceOfficial that part would be the mic positioning adding a dead cat and EQ on the back end. I adjust mine via Final Cut Pro. Sometimes you can control it and if it’s interesting enough I’ll just chalk it down to added drama effect lol
I just purchased a 2023 R1M and received the Akrapovic Evolution GP and the difference in quality is astounding vs. That of other manufacturers......who cares where it's made there's a reason you dnt see graves at the highest level of racing such as MotoGP and WSB but you will see Akrapovic all over....
I have inherited 2 Graves exhausts on lightly used 1000cc bikes that I have turned into my race bikes and they're expensive trash. Both under 6,000 miles have exploded and cracked all to shit in the mid pipe in the middle of races and I had to tig them together which they broke 1,000 and 1,500 miles after me welding them. Now I buy Hindle Stainless exhausts as they make the same power, they're half the price, they crash better, and much better company to deal with than Graves.
I hope it goes well for you. I also have the EVR exhaust so it has the Graves butterfly valve and the Graves software went corrupt on Friday morning of a race weeked and I couldn't race let alone ride my bike for 3 weeks while the was at the tuner waiting for Graves to get back to us to get us new a software update. Graves wouldn't send the software to us unless they charged me $400 because they though I stole it or some shit. Lost any future business from me.
Wasn’t aware of Bauce and their ability with the 2020’s. Bren is looks like they have some great results and I like that I can save my stock map for warranty.
@@MotoViceOfficial revzilla showing its out of stock :( i really want this graves , second option is the electrik blue graves but im not sure it will look on the '22 black model Im considering austin racing, just dont like how its too loud
@@zx6r98 So I was at Graves today and asked for ya. They make a couple a week so sign up for their email list on their site and you'll be set! It was out of stock when I needed mine and then the next day they had some.
Stock, I don't see the need for aftermarket headers unless you really want the weight savings. Also to mention, the stock headers are already titanium. Yes the full systems headers saves some weight, but i don't think the airflow is that improved, and the weight savings enough to justify going a full system. That's just my opinion though.
@@MotoViceOfficial bolts are bolts as long as you have the same length and thread meaning metric or standard. Bolts dont crack carbon fiber people that dont use common sense do.🤦♂️ Ride safe
As I've mentioned before the are special designed washers to not crush the carbon heat shield. It's ok i like the grave anyhow and sold my Akra and broke even.
It’s not just a simple washer. It’s cnc machine to work with the other pieces to not crush the carbon shield when torqued to spec or else I would have. I’m happy with the graves anyhow.
“Some european company from solvenia” come on man that sounds really really shitty. Lets hate because of where someone came from. I dont know if you know about covid but basically every back stock item for performance bikes are unavailable. Shit I had to wait 3 months for a stock swing arm on my bike and 2 months for a rim. I am happy you like the new exhaust and your bike rocks but as an American living in europe, damn bro check your cali privilege or riding on new years, I had to make due with skiing as there is no MC riding in winter in the alps….
Apologize for the disrespect. I have had Akra on all of my bikes, and driven and loved many European Cars. Been to Europe and Love Europe. I am just disappointed in the brand after my experience and I should have phrased it differently.
@@MotoViceOfficial your response tells loads about you. Sorry about your experience and thanks for the response! Enjoy the ride my friend! Stay safe out there!
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Question: do you know if you can adjust the rear from the shock? I’m short and I was wondering if you know the stock shock can be adjusted??
Yep I have the graves on my 21 r1 and I love it. It’s perfect. I did have the same akra as well but it had too many extra pieces like the shield and the adapter needed to mount it. It all kept coming loose. Lost bolts too. Plus the akra left too much of a space underneath the bike whereas the graves is nice an tucked. Imo graves is top quality, sounds awesome, looks awesome. Perfect welds etc …and it’s American !
“I guess use Loctite”?? Well def yes!
I just put that same system on my '21 mt07. Man i absolutely love it. Looks and sounds are 10/10. So happy i went with this over the akra.
The Graves looks great, sounds great!
Thanks brotha!
Austin Racing best in the market for deep aggressive sound
Too small, not enough power gain, and gets annoying if you ride alot since audible is to the right of rider instead of in back
I’m not gonna lie the exhaust looks really good!
Thanks bro!
I know this is old but god damn...go to a freaking hardware store and get a bolt some washers, and a Teflon nut. You wouldn't have to worry about lock tight and problem solved.
I have mentioned this in other comments. Akra has specific washers to not crush the carbon shield. Of course I could have got some hardware to fix it.
Also for resale value, it helps to have original hardware. Even though I have the other exhaust installed, I have yet to receive the hardware from Akra. Its been 6 months.
Graves is slowly growing on me; plus when you said 'Made in America' - that had me; I used US made slips - Hot Bodies (for my H2 - yup) and Coffman for my zx6r. My next one will be a graves. Great vides, ride safe.
You make a great point buying products made here in the USA. With the supply chain issues worldwide, parts can take even longer to arrive.
Yes, Akra is an amazing company. But when problems like this arrive, I dont have a choice. Im not going to get some hardware from Home Depot and crack the carbon. Its been 9 months and still havent received the Akra parts even though the R1 is sold.
That’s a nice exhaust sound, thank you
I think this video might’ve changed my mind about getting an Akra pipe 😅. You should show the process of using the BrenTuning handheld once you get it👍 PS, I had issues with my purple panda before too, my wire connections looked like they were good but I was able to “click” them together another notch and it fixed the issue. Maybe unplug everything and re-plug it all and make sure they’re in all the way
Will definitely be doing a video with the Tune!
So I think I got a bad panda. I pulled it out and checked all contections and tried again and it’s straight static.
Smart choice. I was waiting to see if you went with Graves. I’m gonna get this same bike and exhaust lol thanks for vids!! I had a 17’ R1 with a mid pipe and graves slip on it sounded so good I miss it. Was debating BMW or V4 but honesty for the money the R1 with the crossplane was awesome.
I would pick a Yamaha over the BMW any day. Save the change to make the bike your own ya know?
That’s why I didn’t get the R1M. Also don’t want active suspension.
sounds lovely bro damn
Same thing happened to me. Was told after you install it ride it for a couple of minutes then check the torque again
Dang that’s terrible! Guess I learned the hard way.
Called locktite
I am not a big fan of how Graves look, I’m kind more towards the European style. But Graves looks fantastic on your bike. The black theme is looking real good. Also the sound is awesome. Planning on muting an Akra, but honestly your video made me give it another thought.
This is the only graves can I’ve actually loved the look of or else I would have stuck it out and fixed the akra. Your right it looks good with the blacked out look too! I do like the graves sound more, it just sounds deeper!
So will the akra gain more power after tuning than the graves?
Nice bike and cool mods. I'm glad that akra didn't fly off. The bolts taking a couple of weeks are a joke. Lesson learned; always use lock tight. I learned thr hard way too. Lol. That graves looks better IMO.
Very true! I am using locktight and nylon nuts with everything now! I love Akra and respect the R&D with their products, but having Graves down the street and the all black can has always been the exhaust I've wanted.
Funny, I just swapped my Akrapovic link and slip-on for a Graves Full R1 system on my FZ-10. Also to fix your GoPro audio turn OFF voice controls. It should fix the audio popping you hear on playback.
Funny we made the same swap. Graves for the win!
So the audio issues are a bit more complicated as wind is off and raw audio is off as well. I will turn off voice controls and try that as well.
I believe I had a defective purple panda, so I swapped to a different mic and then had wild clipping and wind noise.
New mic on the way, purchased a quieter helmet and some better wind socks. Hopefully this will fix it because I had some great content that was lost!
looks damnn good with the new exhaust, sounds awesome.
Thank you! Its my favorite pipe for sure!
You should make sure what Mode they are going to tune...They usually program for the most aggressive map and mode.
Will do! Thank you!
That sounds so dam good.
Thank you! I wish the camera could pick it up better!
@@MotoViceOfficial I’ve actually never hear an r1 in person so I would know 😪
Did you also replace the Akra link pipe,?
Yes the graves is a 3/4 system as well. I will be selling the akra and link once the parts come in.
You got Hero 9 or 10? I have Hero 10 with purple panda, and I had to use a TRRS to TRS adapter for mines to work correctly. Purple Panda has a TRRS connector at the end, and I think they send the TRS adapter with the kit when you buy it. I hope that helps.
Yeah I got a defective panda. Got a different mic and hero 10. Issues solved!
@MotoVice awesome. Glad it's fixed!
@@YantoSP Yeah it was much needed for future content!
@MotoVice again, happy it's working for ya. I'm about to go record my review video of my '21 SP. 😁
Well Akrapovic is not just a European company...it's the biggest exhaust system company Involved in motorsports with its own composite And titanium foundry in the world my friend...top quality titanium compared to only japanese grade 1 titanium...and its not a big of a deal to go to your local hardware store and get a bolt with a nut & washer which would cost you almost nothing! Although I have to say Graves is also quality manufacturer too.
I agree with Akra’s quality respect the brand entirely. I just wish it wasn’t so hard to some simple bolts and washers.
Yes I could just throw some one but with the car bib heat shield I’m sure the bolts are designed so it does crush it once torqued.
@@MotoViceOfficial I had Akrapovic full on my r1 also...but when I did motor work I got the arata generation full ti-carbon system...which is race level pipe. Anyways...I watched all your videos with the r1 ...good editing also. You must lay your hands on some carbon fiber bits asap!👌
Oh boy here we go! haha Once you get started with carbon, it never ends!
Is it full ti exhaust? Before and after the swap?
It’s a 3/4 titanium system with stock headers. Unless you want the weight savings I don’t think there is a point.
Are you using the adapter that goes with the purple panda? You can’t connect the mic directly to the media mod it won’t work You have to use the mic into the adapter and then into the media mod. I had that same issue when I first got my purple panda. Let me know if this helps
Yep used the connector and plugged in the media mod with the two lines.
I realized a have a bad panda because my other like plugged in without issues.
@@MotoViceOfficial glad you were able to fix that issue. So frustrating but at least it’s fixed 🙌🏽
@@SazonMoto So now my new issues is crackling when talking loud haha
@@MotoViceOfficial that part would be the mic positioning adding a dead cat and EQ on the back end. I adjust mine via Final Cut Pro. Sometimes you can control it and if it’s interesting enough I’ll just chalk it down to added drama effect lol
Would you mind writing me on instagram to answer a question or two? Would be super helpful as I have 2 days now of wasted footage!
I would've just gone to ace and use those bolts but good choice I love my graves full titanium exhaust on my r1!!
I get it but I didnt want to crush the carbon heat shield. I love my graves over the Akra, so in the end it worked out.
@@MotoViceOfficial ya I love the graves exhaust thankfully mine came with it already!
@@D0PEFRESHGAMING Wow not a bad deal!
I’m gonna get the full system for my r6 I love how it looks
Definitely! Graves is such good quality.
Nice. Did you tie your 02 sensors to the bike? did the Brent tuning fix the check engine light?
You can remove it man, besides when you're adding block off plates since you're at it you remove o2 sensors and exup...
What gas cap do you have? Just picked up my 2022 World GP 60th and think it looks really awesome!
In this video was the driven. I switched to the graves.
That sucks man, hope the graves goes good for you
Thanks Man! Just got back from a 5 hours ride and it’s a monster. 👍
I just purchased a 2023 R1M and received the Akrapovic Evolution GP and the difference in quality is astounding vs. That of other manufacturers......who cares where it's made there's a reason you dnt see graves at the highest level of racing such as MotoGP and WSB but you will see Akrapovic all over....
Love it❤
mine have the two white strips on the front of the bike even the sign R1 is even white it is from 2022
Is it the R1S?
I have inherited 2 Graves exhausts on lightly used 1000cc bikes that I have turned into my race bikes and they're expensive trash. Both under 6,000 miles have exploded and cracked all to shit in the mid pipe in the middle of races and I had to tig them together which they broke 1,000 and 1,500 miles after me welding them. Now I buy Hindle Stainless exhausts as they make the same power, they're half the price, they crash better, and much better company to deal with than Graves.
Well graves is right down the street from me so it’s worked out pretty well.
I’m happy with mine. Hindle is nice as well.
I hope it goes well for you. I also have the EVR exhaust so it has the Graves butterfly valve and the Graves software went corrupt on Friday morning of a race weeked and I couldn't race let alone ride my bike for 3 weeks while the was at the tuner waiting for Graves to get back to us to get us new a software update. Graves wouldn't send the software to us unless they charged me $400 because they though I stole it or some shit. Lost any future business from me.
should've sent the ecu to bauce racing for the flash
Wasn’t aware of Bauce and their ability with the 2020’s. Bren is looks like they have some great results and I like that I can save my stock map for warranty.
where did you buy this from ? Im in canada and every where i check its not available
Where did I buy the Graves or the Akra?
@@MotoViceOfficial graves ..
@@zx6r98 did you try though revzilla with the link in the description?
@@MotoViceOfficial revzilla showing its out of stock :(
i really want this graves , second option is the electrik blue graves but im not sure it will look on the '22 black model
Im considering austin racing, just dont like how its too loud
@@zx6r98 So I was at Graves today and asked for ya. They make a couple a week so sign up for their email list on their site and you'll be set! It was out of stock when I needed mine and then the next day they had some.
The Akra looks better but I get it.Graves always sounds better
Your headers are they stock or akras?
Stock, I don't see the need for aftermarket headers unless you really want the weight savings. Also to mention, the stock headers are already titanium. Yes the full systems headers saves some weight, but i don't think the airflow is that improved, and the weight savings enough to justify going a full system. That's just my opinion though.
Bolts 10 weeks out??? Are you kidding me. Have you ever heard of a hardware store aka Lowes Home depot🤦♂️
Sure, but not when there’s a $200 dollar carbon piece that I don’t want to crack without the proper hardware.
@@MotoViceOfficial bolts are bolts as long as you have the same length and thread meaning metric or standard. Bolts dont crack carbon fiber people that dont use common sense do.🤦♂️ Ride safe
Lol dude you should’ve just went to lowes and bought some bolts for $3 instead of buying an entire exhaust system…
As I've mentioned before the are special designed washers to not crush the carbon heat shield. It's ok i like the grave anyhow and sold my Akra and broke even.
Bro go to ace hardware. Problem solve 🤯 all those bolts is is just bolts. Bolts are bolts bro. Go buy a bolt make it work. 👍
It’s not just a simple washer. It’s cnc machine to work with the other pieces to not crush the carbon shield when torqued to spec or else I would have.
I’m happy with the graves anyhow.
“Some european company from solvenia” come on man that sounds really really shitty. Lets hate because of where someone came from. I dont know if you know about covid but basically every back stock item for performance bikes are unavailable.
Shit I had to wait 3 months for a stock swing arm on my bike and 2 months for a rim.
I am happy you like the new exhaust and your bike rocks but as an American living in europe, damn bro check your cali privilege or riding on new years, I had to make due with skiing as there is no MC riding in winter in the alps….
Apologize for the disrespect. I have had Akra on all of my bikes, and driven and loved many European Cars. Been to Europe and Love Europe. I am just disappointed in the brand after my experience and I should have phrased it differently.
@@MotoViceOfficial your response tells loads about you. Sorry about your experience and thanks for the response! Enjoy the ride my friend! Stay safe out there!
@@nordicjourneys To you as well!
Lmao use locktite on any main bike part, can tell yal aren't mechanically inclined smh
I wouldn't put an akropovic on a Vespa