The ones in the MotoGP are the only ones being given focus on R&D and quality and that doesn't apply to the one we get on the consumer side unlike the Akra which everything is about performance then looks comes on most of their lineup.
@@Navyguy Everybody knows that the RSV4s don't like shorty exahusts. Bad idle and midrange is gone. MotoGP racing is all top end. Look at the size of their rear sprockets! Yes $2500.00 US is too much for a slip-on!
@@fredm4197 i don't want to sound rude BUT $2500 maybe 'a bit too much' for you folks but here in India (i 'm speaking on behalf of the superbike community) we don't mind spending upwards of 3 grand on exhausts ! ✌🏻
I've only ridden for a couple of seasons now, however I find that you're one of the rare guys on RUclips that makes any sense. All of these channels just focus on gear , thanks for making actual content that we need to hear!
@benikos I 100% agree with you. The content here is actually informative for new riders. I have been riding for a decent couple years now but still watch every video.
No shit 😒 😐 someone with type of knowledge it's nice to have the latest news and experience ‼️‼️ Their be a lot of people that know not a God damm thing on you-tube ‼️‼️
To be fair, You picked a limited, hand made, Aprilia exclusive SC Project system, and compared it to a basic Graves exhaust with a hideous logo on the side... Your average SC Project slip on does not cost much more than that graves system, and looks undeniably better. It is also in MotoGP, and is a championship proven exhaust brand. The GP-22 is one of a kind, weighs less than 1 lb (the mounting hardware is the only thing that puts this over 1 lb technically), and it sounds VISCOUS. And yes, the packaging is pretty nice, but I don't think that justifies the price of course. It's just a cool, unique exhaust that people have the *option* of buying. And it having a nice presentation seems right. Yes it is expensive, you don't have to buy it, but these are potentially a 1 time deal.. Meaning they might not manufacture them in the future. So the price point I think has a lot to do with the limited availability, and the hand craftsmanship. Same with the stealth mirrors by Rizoma. They are manufactured from a solid block of Aluminum. The FOV might not be great, but they are definitely a plus, for people that like the look. And bar end mirrors on a supersport.... I don't think they look good. Maybe on a naked bike. But I think the stealth mirrors are more designed to be used when in full tuck, not sitting in an upright position. Most people remove their mirrors completely, so it's nice just to have the option. Anyway, I know you aren't going to change your mind or anything, I just wanted to point out a few things. Because I personally love SC Project exhausts and Rizoma mirrors. Please don't view me as an "influencer" either. I haven't posted in years and could care less about all of that. I just appreciate good, solid brands that put out products that are 100% undeniable quality. This video could hurt their business so idk, I felt the need to say all of this. Excellent production on the videos man.
I know man. It’s definitely just an opinion piece and I seriously doubt this will hurt their business. They don’t need me to say they’re good - I can name a dozen other “influencers” who can attest to their quality I’m sure. I think there’s this side of “Motovlogging” that’s been missing for a while - the realness or grassroots side of this space. I used to love watching you guys do this, but right now the space is stale and I’m sorta playing devil’s advocate. I had to sit back and think things through - how can I not be another C2W, HunterHonda, 650ib, yammie, etc etc… Again, simply an opinion piece - the strategy to find those people bored of the stale Motorcycle content and want to drink some ice cold water. The only moto channel I really follow these days are those 44teeth guys. Hope this helps explain my content thus far…i think there’s a majority who think im hating. The truth is, im just looking to spice things up 😂 ✌🏾✌🏾
yeah great story , but the only motogp connection it has is the name . the aprilia we can buy has nothing in comon with the motogp bikes . besides that , to let an engine run optimum you need a airfilter/exhaust/taylormade mapping and get rid of all the enviremental nonesense they build into it , not buy a brand thats alsoi hapen to be in motgp . its a hypejob and obnoxiously loud
Numerous great systems out there, and for the quality and $, Graves,Yosh, M4, & Arrow shouldn’t be overlooked. Arrow is the best sounding exhaust system I’ve ever heard on a GSXR750. I could never justify paying $2200 for a slip-on no matter who was endorsing it. I bought a race-only full system direct from Yosh for a CBR1000RR for the same $, and at the time they had only built 12 of them for pro race teams like mine. You’re 100% correct that those $ would be better spent on better tires, brakes, and track time. However, exhaust systems tend to grab the attention.
Arrow on CFMoto 800MT like my moto sounds awful it doesn't have a soul! So in the end maybe is personal preference?? I would love to hear all the exhausts on my bike so I could choose, but as far as my motorcycle I can hear only SC Project and Arrow and SC Project SC1-R sounds great in comparison to arrow.
@@SamuraiThePunisher shitcan the cat if you haven’t done so already. That will make a huge difference no matter which pipe you have. In states where emissions testing is done, just fit up the stock stuff to pass the testing then take it back off afterwards. It’s a pain but otherwise your bike is not working or sounding as it should.
That’s hilarious. The way I convinced my parents that I will be safe on the road was by telling them that I will ride with my professor. We rode together and worked together for more that a year. I love how a PHD make everyone believes anything.
Dude you are so absolutely right about the rizomas... I've tried them on many bikes .. but frankly.. neither they give the look.. nor the "downforce", and definitely don't justify the price they come at... sure the quality is superb and all... but I would've preferred something more akin to the ones on the h2 atleast....
They don't look right on the bike. I've seen them on two or three bikes and I remember them always sitting wrong, and being at a weird angle. They don't look like H2R winglets at all, they sit on there awkward and you can tell it's well made shit, but it makes the bike look jank anyway
Totally agree! I have a Akra on my rsv4 as well and like the look of the GP-22. But $2.2k is seriously an unrealistic price point. A set of forged wheels would be a better buy at that point.
Yeah Titax aluminum forged go for about that, I saw some Galespeed ones that are actually full on forged magnesium wheels at that price. Those come out of Japan, I haven't heard too much but what I have heard was good.
@@adobomoto Carbon wheels have the biggest impact, not due to overall weight savings but due to where the weight is - instant increase in performance and agility and a great upgrade.
I think what Sc-Project is doing is correlating their prices to the price of the motorcycle. Meaning the higher the price for the motorcycle, the higher the price for the exhaust. Like for example, for a Yamaha R3, it costs ~$700 for the exhaust system. For a higher end Yamaha, like the MT-09, it costs ~$1200 for the exhaust system. And another higher end, the Yamaha R1 will set you back ~$1600 for the exhaust system. If we add in more rare or exotic motorcycles like the Aprilia, it will boost up the price massively. What Sc-Project is doing isn't good to the sense of the normal rider that will at most spend $20k on a motorcycle, but Sc-Project is pushing the fact that the more people are willing to spend on the motorcycle, the more they spend on the exhaust system/slip-on.
I don't think SC Project exhausts are overpriced. The SC1R slip on, for example, is comparable if not cheaper than the Akrapovic slip-on for the 2021+ Aprilia V4. The GP-22 though... It seems to be wildly expensive pound-for-pound. BUT...I don't knw what it takes to create such a beautiful exhaust and isn't price determined by what someone is willing to pay?
They are BOTH priced really high. The graves slip on is the better bargain, even better - if you like the small pipe look, the racefit growler is a better bargain
@@Victor_Moto both as in Akrapovic and SC Project - some of their stuff is premium pricing. Some are closer to standard, but honestly I don't see a gain from a full Ti Akra vs a Full Ti graves. I'll normally go with whatever is the cheapest option for my particular platform. I got lucky on my 1299s and my v4s - they both already had the 5k Akrapovic on them from previous owners.
Sc project exhausts set up for gabro up tune and it gives you more power and runs smother/better . tip .. go with sc project crt model costs 1000$ looks phenominal sounds phenominal .
You should consider buying one of each of these brands…you can return them later…and show them each to some of your welder friends and get their thoughts on seeing them each in the flesh. That would be dope.
i agree totally with the gp22 sc project exhaust, i think it is something like £1600 here in England. My problem with the cost of it is the actual size and the amount of titanium used to manufacture it would cost probably £100 - £200. I would rather buy a cheap Chinese knockoff of that end can which is exactly what i did with the stealth mirrors, the mirrors look cool on the rsv4 but their function for visibility is poor and can actually cause a safety issue as i was looking too hard with elbows flapping up and down for too long to see what was behind me.
Yoshi exhaust for my $4000 grom is up to about $700. Almost bought one just because it had the O2 bung for the tuner. Or their $1700 dual high mount….. Then found a nice quality Leo Vince with the bung for $295 new. Yea, I’m here talking grom on your sport page 😂.
There are a lot of folks here in my city with SC Project exhausts and knock off which say SC Project are amazing. They confuse loudness with amazing sound. I have a 1000sx with a Leo Vince Factory S Titanium end can and stock pipes with cc and resonator still on and it sounds just right. Its bass-ier than stock, improves the over all look of the bike, legal and does not destroy eardrums of people. This channel is amazing, I like the no bs content here - straight on point talk. Keep it up. You earned a sub.
I got the scr OPEN 1/4 ? exhaust as it hooks to back peg hanger (i got specific exhaust hanger ) sc project cost 1047$ full race model = no mesh = fully open .. why because it went in sync with the uptune . Sc project works with company who does the uptune and the tune is perfect . sorry tuner name starts with g ( been up all night lol)Gabro up tune and cr-t rear peg mount = phenominal tune worth 1061$
This is super true, for such a small slip on, 2200 is a lot. They just know their audience. SC is raising the prices accordingly to the hype. Good on them for keeping up with their demand
Agree with you! Way too expensive, just like Akrapovic now. Arata are back in business. Look them up! They were the real OG back then. All made in Japan. 😍
@@adobomoto same, but the Akra header alone in TI for the S1KRR is $2500 CND. LOL I can get a fulll Hindle, forks and rear shock revalved to my weight for this. No thanks!
Oh I love made in Japan shit. They craft good stuff and are cost effective. Dollar for dollar performance on RS Taichi gear, Neopros tools, and all the other tools they're making. Other shit too, I'll check those Arata out.
I got a full Graves exhaust with Titanium header for that price and I love my Graves on the 2021 Kawasaki zx10r. I did skimp on the mirrors I wasn't about to pay 300+ for Rizomo I got some knockoff brand for 140 that integrated signals and the work flawlessly. Keep it up bro lovin the content man.🤙
Hah the Black M4 Slip On on my '13 ZX10R sounds brutal and since the titanium headers are already open it sounds really nice and i bet it flows real nice
As someone who worked for a really cool racing exhaust company i can say with 10000% certainty what is made for teams and whats sold to everyone else is completely different.
That being said, akrapovic is an OE manufacturer and will sell you great stuff. Yoshi is good too. But most of the other "race" brands are not selling you anything close.
yeah but when was the last time you heard so much about a rearview mirror...? Folks are talking about the Stealth everywhere. I bet we start seeing designs from others that have that kind of aero transformery feature, but cost less, which will be great for the market! So good on Rizoma for pushing the envelope at least. I think I want them, but like you, I don't $500 want them. Any thoughts on the MotoGadget glassless mirrors? Experience?
@Adobo Moto As a rider safety thing, not wanting to be run over, pretty high on the list. Bought a Vata7 LED backpack, its pretty fricken cool. Integrated running lights, brake, and turn signals in addition to a bunch of other features. I love mine, its comfortable, stylish, safe, and extra visibility without the hi-viz banana man crap.
I race and I rarely if ever see anyone with an sc project exhaust in my 1000cc class. It's 90% Akra on the track. MotoGP is a different story but those systems are individually designed for each bike each year differently. Gp looks cool but I only care about performance not looks.
@@adobomoto Akra has always been that way. I think I paid $1600 for their Evo full system on my '04 10R 19 years ago, and that was a "deal". Plenty of products like that though. Top of the line AGV helmets, with no face shield detents or closable vents selling for close to 2k. You wonder why you go in some bike shops, and every employee has a Corsair X, etc. on? I know I paid $450 from the Tucker Rocky vendor when they still carried Arai for my Corsair X with custom padding, and a dark smoke shield. Mark up on all of this stuff is next level. Then throw in all these yahoo's who get it for free so they can talk it up on here. I'm currently looking for an exhaust for my MT09SP. IMO the best looking one so far, is SC. I wouldn't even change the stock exhaust had Yamaha not left such nasty welds on the stock set up.I don't want to flash the ECU, I'm not chasing power, I don't want a louder exhaust. I just don't want a hideous one either...
I don`t understand the hate at all. I think SC-Project exhausts are by far the most beautiful exhausts on the market. There is a video online from Meddes with his RSV4 and the SC Project ...that sound is just perfect in my opinion. But i guess thats just me since I dont like Akrapovic at all, they are ugly af, extremely expensive and the sound is not what I´m looking for. Regarding the Rizoma Stealth mirrors, I think they are the most beautiful mirrors on the market. The field of view may be subpar to other mirrors but i guess thats not the point. Performance and looks are 50/50 of importance for me. Leave the stock mirrors on if you want, but they look like shit. A hardcase on the back of the bike may also be very convenient but looks like shit. I can agree with the point, that it is a good idea to spend your money on training and gear, but after that....
You wouldn't understand the hate bc you think Akras are extremely expensive when they costs probably half of the SC ''slip on'' lol. You clearly the ones that business freaking loves, easy money for them!!!
Out of everyone I’ve watched in the motorcycle community from Harley guys to pure sports guys you’re my favorite dude. I really appreciate how real and brutally honest you are in the way you talk about things. I ride a Harley currently and have been wanting to get more into sports bikes for a while but had no clue where to start, your channel has been a goldmine of info🫡
I'm a Yoshimura guy, that's what I run on my R6 and I love it. If I ever wanted to try another exhaust though, I would try graves. They've done a lot in the american road racing series!
The Rizoma mirrors are ridiculous. That's why the "off-brand" stealth mirrors have blown up so much on Amazon in the past year or two. They have their own flaws, especially for $30-60 depending on which ones you buy. But you still get the same look, for the most part. And yeah, visibility is crap out of them, but would you rather spend $30 on crap, or $500? lol
sc project pipe here in the Philippines are everywhere, you can see it on a Underbone Bike, Backbone Bike, even on some Streetbike Concepts you can see a SC Project Exhaust everywhere, and it's cheap also
I have a delkevic system (the cheapest full system) on my concours 14. I love it, it sounds great, made a difference in power, and best of all it did not break the bank.
Mines was about 220ish, slip on, link pipe, removable baffle, clamp, free neck tube. Said I do not need to remap my bike as well. The newer exhaust sound sounds more like. It’s a KTM 390 Duke Euro 5. It is on my channel if you want to see/ hear the comparison. The slip on is a fraction of the price and not an ebay knock off. Also the site is called spEngineering.
I put a CS Racing full system on my s1krr. It looks great and sounds amazing. Less than half the price of competitors. I hate when people buy the most expensive things and instantly think they're better people.
Basic ebay knock-off would do the exact same. The only real differences in slip-ons is the length (Shorty v. Long). That said, Leo Vince, Graves, austin... all really great
I got an SC Project full system for my CB650R, but I psie the exhaust 300 dollars 😁 The previous owner totaled the bike, it took me a total of 6 hours to restore it to mint condition. It’s a carbon fiber exhaust and I have to say that the quality I pretty good.
If you can’t afford or justify the price just say so dude.. I have sc project pipes on both my mv’s my Daytona and my r1, that were expensive, but it sounds INCREDIBLE and the workmanship on the MV pipes with the conical welded titanium is second to none. Not to mention the 6kg weight difference. Did I mention the sound? I don’t run them on my track bikes because I don’t want to replace them all the time. I do two track days a month, supermoto track days once a week - I invest PLENTY in my skills too - but I can do that and afford to have sc pipes if I want them. Don’t rat on a brand just because your life dictates that you can’t have them (whether that’s because you can’t afford it or can’t justify the cost - it makes no difference)
I did lmfao. Did you not hear me mention the price justification? Trying to flex on a YT comment section - just stop. It’s annoying. Move on with your life.
So id really like to know WHERE youre finding a graves slip on for 5-600 hundred bucks all while completely downing SC. I literally just looked up graves and their slip on was 900 bucks for my bike, direct price from there website.
If you're in the UK (I assume they post internationally too) and want a stupid loud slipon exhaust for cheap, SP Engineering. They're good quality, they sound fantastic, and they're basically just a glasspack to smooth out the sound of a straight-through haha.
My 1st gen FZ09 came with a full Akrapovic carbon system when I bought it. The sound is intoxicating! I like the look of the SC's and Austin systems but as an audiophile, dont care for the sound.
Idk if they are still around, but when I had my 08 gsxr600 I had a jardine GP1 slip on and it sounded sick and looked about as good as the SC slip on for like $130 at that time.
I personally like the rizoma mirrors but there’s no way in hell i’m spending $400+ on fu*king mirrors 😂🤣 it really hit me when you said thats 2-3 track days! Really love your videos keep em’ coming bro🍻
I have a full titanium Graves exhaust system on my 2016 Yamaha FJ09. Its absolutely amazing and I love it. I have a 23 Yamaha XSR900. I wish Graves produced something for this bike, however they do not. I went with a full system from Yoshimura.
I think it really depends on the bike. i agree that 2200 for a slip on is a rip off. i got an complete exhaust system from sc for 1200 for my honda cbr650r.
Got the Akra System for my R1 with the long Slip-on. For me its a way better option then SC. Better Perfomance it can be somewhat quiet, and thats Important here in Europe on our Racetracks. Germany, Italy and France
Schätz mal du bist deutsch die WSBK replica Anlage von Akrapovic für die R1 scheppert trotz dem langen Topf ziemlich und die SC Projects kommen halt von der Leistung nicht an die Akras
@@MK0413 Ja fast Deutsch xD. Aber die Wsbk Anlage ist ja die "kurze" oder nicht? ich meine denn Trackday Endschalldämpfer der wirklich lange. Mit beiden Schalldämpfern kommt da schon in die nähe von 98db. Und mit beiden draussen kann auch gut laut sein. Leistung ist Akra natürlich top. Aber wird sich im Frühling zeigen wie es wird, bin die R1 erst jetzt am bereit machen.
@@Loochy3 komischerweise ist die wsbk Anlage größer, bzw. länger. Aber ja, mit den dB killern sind meines Wissens beide für alle Rennstrecken (außer Sachsenring, da geht nur OEM Anlage) Viel Spaß mit dem bike 💪
@@MK0413 Kann sein, bin mir da echt nicht mehr sicher xD. Wird wahrscheinlich meistens Italien werden. Cremona,Misano. Und halt Hockenheim wahrscheinlich. Da sollte es auch noch knapp funktionieren. Zuerst muss sie dann auch noch abgestimmt werden. Und danke dir.
Been riding for years and I've always shopped around for exhausts, being open to trying new styles. Now ive got a 22 R1 and rrwlly wanted the SC mid pipe and slip-on but its absolutely crazy money so i found a chinese copy called a KO Lightning. Looks the same, sounds awesome and cost me £170
Nobody forces you to spend money on an item that you don't like or that you think costs too much. Personally I have a SC on my Street Triple and it sounds like a symphony. I will never change it. As for the Graves exhaust you recommend, it will cost much less but it looks like the muffler of a T-max 😀 Have a good street
I’ve been happy with my Leo Vince slip on on both my track CBR250R track and my Husqvarna street bike. The Husqvarna application is CA legal too. The CBR250R isn’t because the oe muffler is integrated with the catalyst converter, but it’s not a street bike anymore.
I have Akra on my RSV4. Came from M4. I debated about SC Project. But I didnt see it worth the money! Akra was similar in price and always has tons of R&D behind them. I run Akra on my CBR as well!
TBH, I thought the same about Akrapovic but snagged a used one for cheap and I can see why they sell for a grand new. That said, 2k is full system money. Plus installation and ECU flash.
Good observation!. I share the same opinion. People base it mainly on the brand as several products. I have a KO lightning exhaust that looks like the Sc Project and does the same job for $175.
another hyped af exhaust is the austin racing 2 of my friends bought the de cat exhaust for the h2 and both of them have the mounting flange weld fail and the whole thing falls off.
I do agree that the price is a bit high for a slip on, but the exhaust is constructed from titanium alloy, and it looks identical to the MotoGP version. Graves exhausts might be cheaper but the look hideous.
Lots of companies use titanium alloy including graves. Back when I first started riding over a decade ago we used to laugh at people with straight piped buckets. Now straight pipes are $2200 bucks and everyone is dropling over em lol
1000% there's far better options for aprilia than the SC GP or CRT. I wouldn't say they suck quality wise, every one I've come across range wise has good looks and welds (welders always shit on other welds, look at any welding video lol). However, akra full systems, mivv full systems, Graves full systems shit even the SCR1 destroy any shorty pipe. I have a CRT strictly cause the noise is just perfection. If I'm chasing horsepower or going into competition if it isn't a SCR1, it's going to be another brand that builds a full exhaust system.
I have been eyeing the SC for my speed 1200rs but it's $1200. I am looking at the Leo Vince for $450 slightly less of a premium looking product but probably similar sound. That SC looks great and I want to pull the trigger but....$$$$$$
I just bought the Racefit black edition for my 765RS. Waiting for it to come in. I think it’s worth $600 and it’s handmade full titanium. They also have one for the 1200rs, look them up!
Do you remember around 2006ish when TaylorMade exhaust came out? People thought they were soooo cool. Turned out to be a super crappy muffler that rattled apart behind a carbon cover. And people were paying like $700 back then for that as a slipon!!
I’ll be entirely honest, you’ve had some opinions that steered me away from this channel, but this won me right back! I’ve always laughed at the suckers on instagram who shell out enough money to buy another bike, just for a fucking muffler!
no worries man. I'm not the page for everyone and their moms. when I started to understand that not everyone is gonna like me or what I say, that's when I started to grow
i bought an exhaust of alibaba for $90 that id buy again three times before i buy that scp shorty, and buy anew suit helmet and a track day. i agree 100% with that logic
Both the rizoma mirrors and sc project exhaust can be purchased for a fraction of the price from ali-express. I have both, indistinguishable from the "originals" Cost for both: $200.00
yeah cuz they fake?!!! The real ones may be overpriced but they def are wayyyy better in quality. It may be indistinguishable but they don't last as long too!!
@HU.5670 the mirrors have been on my bike for one season. Still as good as day 1. The exhaust is on its 3rd season now. 240hp erestricted, intercooler zh2. Same as condition as day 1. Sorry if this hurts your feelings.
@@jpbsv First of all we’re talking about years not “a” season lol. There’s bunch of videos out there that does comparisons for the Rizoma ones and made in China ones. Secondly, the fake sc’s doesn’t produce the same performance increase and weight reduction as of the real one. If it does then why would sc still be out there? It would’ve gone broke already, use your common sense bruh. Last but not least the only cons they have is being overpriced, their quality are still top notch compared to those shitty fake ones.
@HU.5670 ok...bruh... Let me begin by saying that I'm not only a toolmaker/machinist, but also a master tig welder. In short, I build shit!. The quality is 100% same. My bet is Italian sc uses China as their manufacturing hub. It would not be the first time something made in Italy is actually just made in China. And the reason sc is still in business is great marketing. Proff of that is.... you!
@@jpbsv lmao it’s not. Put it on the dyno, then send me the video link proving that they produce same performance I’ll wait. I already said it’s overpriced why would I buy it??? Better know how to read before claiming you own this and that or your profession . It’s all BS without proof 🫢
Tried them and kinda did not like the way they sounded on my previous motorcycles. As someone who does long rides, the sound wears you down. I mainly run Austin Racing, even if you have to wait months for them. New sub here ma mang!
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*SC Project is used on Moto GP ! It's not just HYPE cheapo...* 😌🤦🏻♂️
do you own a Motogp bike? didn't think so LMFAOOOOO
@@adobomoto you don't have to be an astronaut to see the moon. 🤦🏻♂️😆
The ones in the MotoGP are the only ones being given focus on R&D and quality and that doesn't apply to the one we get on the consumer side unlike the Akra which everything is about performance then looks comes on most of their lineup.
@@Navyguy Everybody knows that the RSV4s don't like shorty exahusts. Bad idle and midrange is gone. MotoGP racing is all top end. Look at the size of their rear sprockets! Yes $2500.00 US is too much for a slip-on!
@@fredm4197 i don't want to sound rude BUT $2500 maybe 'a bit too much' for you folks but here in India (i 'm speaking on behalf of the superbike community) we don't mind spending upwards of 3 grand on exhausts ! ✌🏻
I've only ridden for a couple of seasons now, however I find that you're one of the rare guys on RUclips that makes any sense. All of these channels just focus on gear , thanks for making actual content that we need to hear!
You can use this thought process with everything, titanium headers and many other products
@benikos I 100% agree with you. The content here is actually informative for new riders. I have been riding for a decent couple years now but still watch every video.
No shit 😒 😐 someone with type of knowledge it's nice to have the latest news and experience ‼️‼️
Their be a lot of people that know not a God damm thing on you-tube ‼️‼️
Most youtubers make content purely for money.
To be fair,
You picked a limited, hand made, Aprilia exclusive SC Project system, and compared it to a basic Graves exhaust with a hideous logo on the side... Your average SC Project slip on does not cost much more than that graves system, and looks undeniably better. It is also in MotoGP, and is a championship proven exhaust brand.
The GP-22 is one of a kind, weighs less than 1 lb (the mounting hardware is the only thing that puts this over 1 lb technically), and it sounds VISCOUS. And yes, the packaging is pretty nice, but I don't think that justifies the price of course. It's just a cool, unique exhaust that people have the *option* of buying. And it having a nice presentation seems right.
Yes it is expensive, you don't have to buy it, but these are potentially a 1 time deal.. Meaning they might not manufacture them in the future. So the price point I think has a lot to do with the limited availability, and the hand craftsmanship.
Same with the stealth mirrors by Rizoma. They are manufactured from a solid block of Aluminum. The FOV might not be great, but they are definitely a plus, for people that like the look. And bar end mirrors on a supersport.... I don't think they look good. Maybe on a naked bike. But I think the stealth mirrors are more designed to be used when in full tuck, not sitting in an upright position. Most people remove their mirrors completely, so it's nice just to have the option.
Anyway, I know you aren't going to change your mind or anything, I just wanted to point out a few things. Because I personally love SC Project exhausts and Rizoma mirrors. Please don't view me as an "influencer" either. I haven't posted in years and could care less about all of that. I just appreciate good, solid brands that put out products that are 100% undeniable quality. This video could hurt their business so idk, I felt the need to say all of this.
Excellent production on the videos man.
I know man. It’s definitely just an opinion piece and I seriously doubt this will hurt their business. They don’t need me to say they’re good - I can name a dozen other “influencers” who can attest to their quality I’m sure.
I think there’s this side of “Motovlogging” that’s been missing for a while - the realness or grassroots side of this space. I used to love watching you guys do this, but right now the space is stale and I’m sorta playing devil’s advocate. I had to sit back and think things through - how can I not be another C2W, HunterHonda, 650ib, yammie, etc etc…
Again, simply an opinion piece - the strategy to find those people bored of the stale Motorcycle content and want to drink some ice cold water.
The only moto channel I really follow these days are those 44teeth guys.
Hope this helps explain my content thus far…i think there’s a majority who think im hating. The truth is, im just looking to spice things up 😂 ✌🏾✌🏾
yeah great story , but the only motogp connection it has is the name . the aprilia we can buy has nothing in comon with the motogp bikes . besides that , to let an engine run optimum you need a airfilter/exhaust/taylormade mapping and get rid of all the enviremental nonesense they build into it , not buy a brand thats alsoi hapen to be in motgp . its a hypejob and obnoxiously loud
omg the yapping is through the roof
@@adobomoto damn...get shit on haha
I have a sc project on my mt07 and I couldnt be happier. Looks great and sounds amazing
Do you have a full system ?
@@arielsempertegui5476 yes
Does that mean also de cat ?@@matteo4282
Numerous great systems out there, and for the quality and $, Graves,Yosh, M4, & Arrow shouldn’t be overlooked. Arrow is the best sounding exhaust system I’ve ever heard on a GSXR750. I could never justify paying $2200 for a slip-on no matter who was endorsing it. I bought a race-only full system direct from Yosh for a CBR1000RR for the same $, and at the time they had only built 12 of them for pro race teams like mine. You’re 100% correct that those $ would be better spent on better tires, brakes, and track time. However, exhaust systems tend to grab the attention.
This one is 💯 for clout. I love arrow. Ran a full ti arrow on my 2015 r1 race bike and 3/4 graves on my r1m street bike
Arrow on CFMoto 800MT like my moto sounds awful it doesn't have a soul! So in the end maybe is personal preference?? I would love to hear all the exhausts on my bike so I could choose, but as far as my motorcycle I can hear only SC Project and Arrow and SC Project SC1-R sounds great in comparison to arrow.
@@SamuraiThePunisher shitcan the cat if you haven’t done so already. That will make a huge difference no matter which pipe you have. In states where emissions testing is done, just fit up the stock stuff to pass the testing then take it back off afterwards. It’s a pain but otherwise your bike is not working or sounding as it should.
That’s hilarious. The way I convinced my parents that I will be safe on the road was by telling them that I will ride with my professor. We rode together and worked together for more that a year. I love how a PHD make everyone believes anything.
You got a phd and your parents are buying you a motorbike?
😂🤣😂⚰
@@leansnscenes7806 thats not what he said 🤣
Continue to be impressed with your no nonsense yet super informative content; keep up the good work!👍🏼
THANK YOU for calling out the stealth mirrors too!! They look cool but I’d rather just run no mirrors and spend $20 on blockoffs than deal with them
you can get $20 copys of them that work great too....3d printed a piece to get them at a good angle on my r1 and they work fine
Dude you are so absolutely right about the rizomas... I've tried them on many bikes .. but frankly.. neither they give the look.. nor the "downforce", and definitely don't justify the price they come at... sure the quality is superb and all... but I would've preferred something more akin to the ones on the h2 atleast....
They don't look right on the bike. I've seen them on two or three bikes and I remember them always sitting wrong, and being at a weird angle.
They don't look like H2R winglets at all, they sit on there awkward and you can tell it's well made shit, but it makes the bike look jank anyway
Totally agree! I have a Akra on my rsv4 as well and like the look of the GP-22. But $2.2k is seriously an unrealistic price point. A set of forged wheels would be a better buy at that point.
Yeah Titax aluminum forged go for about that, I saw some Galespeed ones that are actually full on forged magnesium wheels at that price. Those come out of Japan, I haven't heard too much but what I have heard was good.
I keep telling people, unsprung weight savings is a game changer!
@@adobomoto Carbon wheels have the biggest impact, not due to overall weight savings but due to where the weight is - instant increase in performance and agility and a great upgrade.
2200 bucks Jesus
I think what Sc-Project is doing is correlating their prices to the price of the motorcycle. Meaning the higher the price for the motorcycle, the higher the price for the exhaust. Like for example, for a Yamaha R3, it costs ~$700 for the exhaust system. For a higher end Yamaha, like the MT-09, it costs ~$1200 for the exhaust system. And another higher end, the Yamaha R1 will set you back ~$1600 for the exhaust system. If we add in more rare or exotic motorcycles like the Aprilia, it will boost up the price massively. What Sc-Project is doing isn't good to the sense of the normal rider that will at most spend $20k on a motorcycle, but Sc-Project is pushing the fact that the more people are willing to spend on the motorcycle, the more they spend on the exhaust system/slip-on.
Many other manufacturers do that too. They know who they sell them to so they up the prices, because people are retarded.
Bro the amount of sensibility this guy has is beyond most riders nowadays
I'm just old and angry
@@adobomoto lolololol
I don't ride with squids. I'd ride with this guy any day.
Thank you! Finally somebody shedding light into what is worth spending our money in. Great video. More of these please
I don't think SC Project exhausts are overpriced. The SC1R slip on, for example, is comparable if not cheaper than the Akrapovic slip-on for the 2021+ Aprilia V4. The GP-22 though... It seems to be wildly expensive pound-for-pound. BUT...I don't knw what it takes to create such a beautiful exhaust and isn't price determined by what someone is willing to pay?
They are BOTH priced really high. The graves slip on is the better bargain, even better - if you like the small pipe look, the racefit growler is a better bargain
@@adobomoto Both as in Akrapovic and SC1R?
@@Victor_Moto both as in Akrapovic and SC Project - some of their stuff is premium pricing. Some are closer to standard, but honestly I don't see a gain from a full Ti Akra vs a Full Ti graves. I'll normally go with whatever is the cheapest option for my particular platform. I got lucky on my 1299s and my v4s - they both already had the 5k Akrapovic on them from previous owners.
@Adobo Moto "I'll normally go with whatever is the cheapest option..." . Okay! Now I understand. 👍 Cool videos, I sub'd.
Sc project exhausts set up for gabro up tune and it gives you more power and runs smother/better . tip .. go with sc project crt model costs 1000$ looks phenominal sounds phenominal .
I'm now subscribed because of how candid you are in this vid. Keep em coming.
Thanks for the support
You should consider buying one of each of these brands…you can return them later…and show them each to some of your welder friends and get their thoughts on seeing them each in the flesh. That would be dope.
i agree totally with the gp22 sc project exhaust, i think it is something like £1600 here in England. My problem with the cost of it is the actual size and the amount of titanium used to manufacture it would cost probably £100 - £200.
I would rather buy a cheap Chinese knockoff of that end can which is exactly what i did with the stealth mirrors, the mirrors look cool on the rsv4 but their function for visibility is poor and can actually cause a safety issue as i was looking too hard with elbows flapping up and down for too long to see what was behind me.
Yoshi exhaust for my $4000 grom is up to about $700. Almost bought one just because it had the O2 bung for the tuner. Or their $1700 dual high mount….. Then found a nice quality Leo Vince with the bung for $295 new. Yea, I’m here talking grom on your sport page 😂.
Speaking straight facts and some people are too insecure to hear it.
There are a lot of folks here in my city with SC Project exhausts and knock off which say SC Project are amazing. They confuse loudness with amazing sound. I have a 1000sx with a Leo Vince Factory S Titanium end can and stock pipes with cc and resonator still on and it sounds just right. Its bass-ier than stock, improves the over all look of the bike, legal and does not destroy eardrums of people.
This channel is amazing, I like the no bs content here - straight on point talk. Keep it up. You earned a sub.
I'm not into being the loudest anymore. I'm old
I got the scr OPEN 1/4 ? exhaust as it hooks to back peg hanger (i got specific exhaust hanger ) sc project cost 1047$ full race model = no mesh = fully open .. why because it went in sync with the uptune . Sc project works with company who does the uptune and the tune is perfect . sorry tuner name starts with g ( been up all night lol)Gabro up tune and cr-t rear peg mount = phenominal tune worth 1061$
This is super true, for such a small slip on, 2200 is a lot. They just know their audience. SC is raising the prices accordingly to the hype. Good on them for keeping up with their demand
Agree with you! Way too expensive, just like Akrapovic now. Arata are back in business. Look them up! They were the real OG back then. All made in Japan. 😍
I like akrapovic
@@adobomoto same, but the Akra header alone in TI for the S1KRR is $2500 CND. LOL I can get a fulll Hindle, forks and rear shock revalved to my weight for this. No thanks!
Oh I love made in Japan shit. They craft good stuff and are cost effective. Dollar for dollar performance on RS Taichi gear, Neopros tools, and all the other tools they're making. Other shit too, I'll check those Arata out.
@@ihateeverything3972 ruclips.net/user/shortsRK8KE-zzHcc craftmanship and attention to details ! They only have a facebook page up so far.. man!
I got a full Graves exhaust with Titanium header for that price and I love my Graves on the 2021 Kawasaki zx10r. I did skimp on the mirrors I wasn't about to pay 300+ for Rizomo I got some knockoff brand for 140 that integrated signals and the work flawlessly. Keep it up bro lovin the content man.🤙
What’s the brand for the knockoff mirrors?? Asking for a ZX6R…
@Yohan Watapatowski I got them off ebay I'm not sure the brand.
I have a graves slip on and an Akra mid pipe on my 18’ mt10. My mentor put me onto graves and they are just so good man.
I'm getting a Graves full Titanium exhaust system on my 2023 Zx10R.... can't wait for cold weather to warm up so I can put it on.
Sweeet!
wtf? the sc project is literally the cheapest option for a lot of everyday bikes compared to akrapovic, arrow and some other top-notch brands
I kinda agree with the stealth mirrors you might as well buy amazon ones or remove your mirrors
I saw some! they look exactly the same!
Racefit fanboy here. I do have SC Project exhausts on my previous bikes and really liked them though.
From what i heard Arrow easily has the best sound , generally speaking, really underrated
I had a full arrow on my 15 r1. I agree
Mini Rossi 😜
Stock MT-07 exhaust for now…rather put funds into suspension and track days. Appreciate the content as always…plan on eventually going Akra I think.
This right here!
That's one reason I don't like Yamaha 100%. You can't install slip ons...
Love the video, totally on point. My guess is that SC figures if you’ve got the $$ to spend 26k on a new Aprilia Factory what’s another 2200….
Magiging successful ka idol. Nararamdman kopo. Keep up lang ng uploads. 😎
Salamat
Yeah I was sick of those gimmicky mirror trend look’s stupid and destroys the look of the bike… glad you pointed it out
Hah the Black M4 Slip On on my '13 ZX10R sounds brutal and since the titanium headers are already open it sounds really nice and i bet it flows real nice
I like m4
As someone who worked for a really cool racing exhaust company i can say with 10000% certainty what is made for teams and whats sold to everyone else is completely different.
That being said, akrapovic is an OE manufacturer and will sell you great stuff. Yoshi is good too. But most of the other "race" brands are not selling you anything close.
yeah but when was the last time you heard so much about a rearview mirror...? Folks are talking about the Stealth everywhere. I bet we start seeing designs from others that have that kind of aero transformery feature, but cost less, which will be great for the market! So good on Rizoma for pushing the envelope at least. I think I want them, but like you, I don't $500 want them.
Any thoughts on the MotoGadget glassless mirrors? Experience?
Good point! No experience, but i’m a fan of tech that helps us have a chance at not getting rear ended.
@Adobo Moto As a rider safety thing, not wanting to be run over, pretty high on the list. Bought a Vata7 LED backpack, its pretty fricken cool. Integrated running lights, brake, and turn signals in addition to a bunch of other features. I love mine, its comfortable, stylish, safe, and extra visibility without the hi-viz banana man crap.
I race and I rarely if ever see anyone with an sc project exhaust in my 1000cc class. It's 90% Akra on the track.
MotoGP is a different story but those systems are individually designed for each bike each year differently.
Gp looks cool but I only care about performance not looks.
I don’t know anyone in WSBK using straight pipes lmfao
Yes finally someone is calling out a company for their over priced parts and the consumer for enabling the company to keep the prices high.
it's definitely not just SC, it's Akrapovic too lol
@@adobomoto Akra has always been that way. I think I paid $1600 for their Evo full system on my '04 10R 19 years ago, and that was a "deal". Plenty of products like that though. Top of the line AGV helmets, with no face shield detents or closable vents selling for close to 2k. You wonder why you go in some bike shops, and every employee has a Corsair X, etc. on? I know I paid $450 from the Tucker Rocky vendor when they still carried Arai for my Corsair X with custom padding, and a dark smoke shield. Mark up on all of this stuff is next level. Then throw in all these yahoo's who get it for free so they can talk it up on here. I'm currently looking for an exhaust for my MT09SP. IMO the best looking one so far, is SC. I wouldn't even change the stock exhaust had Yamaha not left such nasty welds on the stock set up.I don't want to flash the ECU, I'm not chasing power, I don't want a louder exhaust. I just don't want a hideous one either...
facts 😂 I even got the mirrors but more for looks cause I don't use the mirrors
I don`t understand the hate at all. I think SC-Project exhausts are by far the most beautiful exhausts on the market. There is a video online from Meddes with his RSV4 and the SC Project ...that sound is just perfect in my opinion. But i guess thats just me since I dont like Akrapovic at all, they are ugly af, extremely expensive and the sound is not what I´m looking for.
Regarding the Rizoma Stealth mirrors, I think they are the most beautiful mirrors on the market. The field of view may be subpar to other mirrors but i guess thats not the point. Performance and looks are 50/50 of importance for me. Leave the stock mirrors on if you want, but they look like shit. A hardcase on the back of the bike may also be very convenient but looks like shit.
I can agree with the point, that it is a good idea to spend your money on training and gear, but after that....
You wouldn't understand the hate bc you think Akras are extremely expensive when they costs probably half of the SC ''slip on'' lol. You clearly the ones that business freaking loves, easy money for them!!!
@@HU-vq2uiSlip on Akropovic Ducati Streetfighter 2500$ cheap 🤣🤣
Keeping it real as always! Good video bro!
Always!
Out of everyone I’ve watched in the motorcycle community from Harley guys to pure sports guys you’re my favorite dude. I really appreciate how real and brutally honest you are in the way you talk about things. I ride a Harley currently and have been wanting to get more into sports bikes for a while but had no clue where to start, your channel has been a goldmine of info🫡
Finally someone said it! But cant say the $20 sc project copies are bad, they’re everywhere here in the PH haha still sounds good enough 😅 “pwede na”
I'm a Yoshimura guy, that's what I run on my R6 and I love it. If I ever wanted to try another exhaust though, I would try graves. They've done a lot in the american road racing series!
The Rizoma mirrors are ridiculous. That's why the "off-brand" stealth mirrors have blown up so much on Amazon in the past year or two. They have their own flaws, especially for $30-60 depending on which ones you buy. But you still get the same look, for the most part. And yeah, visibility is crap out of them, but would you rather spend $30 on crap, or $500? lol
they sell an XL size for the fake wing mirrors and surprisingly the visibility is really good
sc project has all im looking for in an exhaust system, theyve got a cat system with major hp and torque improvement
sc project pipe here in the Philippines are everywhere, you can see it on a Underbone Bike, Backbone Bike, even on some Streetbike Concepts you can see a SC Project Exhaust everywhere, and it's cheap also
I have a delkevic system (the cheapest full system) on my concours 14. I love it, it sounds great, made a difference in power, and best of all it did not break the bank.
What about RaceFit? Seems to be a similar style but more handmade quality, less marketing push
I love racefit
Mines was about 220ish, slip on, link pipe, removable baffle, clamp, free neck tube. Said I do not need to remap my bike as well. The newer exhaust sound sounds more like. It’s a KTM 390 Duke Euro 5. It is on my channel if you want to see/ hear the comparison. The slip on is a fraction of the price and not an ebay knock off. Also the site is called spEngineering.
lol, yeah, they look wack to me. CRG lane splitter bar ends are the way to go.
Cannot do any mods to the bar ends due to my hand guards part mount onto them. Mirrors look crap but are good. You can see traffic well just ugly.
I put a CS Racing full system on my s1krr. It looks great and sounds amazing. Less than half the price of competitors. I hate when people buy the most expensive things and instantly think they're better people.
Basic ebay knock-off would do the exact same. The only real differences in slip-ons is the length (Shorty v. Long).
That said, Leo Vince, Graves, austin... all really great
Ngl, Grave exhaust sounds fvcking good!👀🖤
I love graves
@@adobomoto Mismo!
I got an SC Project full system for my CB650R, but I psie the exhaust 300 dollars 😁
The previous owner totaled the bike, it took me a total of 6 hours to restore it to mint condition.
It’s a carbon fiber exhaust and I have to say that the quality I pretty good.
If you can’t afford or justify the price just say so dude..
I have sc project pipes on both my mv’s my Daytona and my r1, that were expensive, but it sounds INCREDIBLE and the workmanship on the MV pipes with the conical welded titanium is second to none. Not to mention the 6kg weight difference.
Did I mention the sound?
I don’t run them on my track bikes because I don’t want to replace them all the time.
I do two track days a month, supermoto track days once a week - I invest PLENTY in my skills too - but I can do that and afford to have sc pipes if I want them.
Don’t rat on a brand just because your life dictates that you can’t have them (whether that’s because you can’t afford it or can’t justify the cost - it makes no difference)
I did lmfao. Did you not hear me mention the price justification? Trying to flex on a YT comment section - just stop. It’s annoying. Move on with your life.
So id really like to know WHERE youre finding a graves slip on for 5-600 hundred bucks all while completely downing SC. I literally just looked up graves and their slip on was 900 bucks for my bike, direct price from there website.
I agree witht the sc and super agree on the stealth mirrors..
Totally agree with you track days are real world experience and can learn a lot about your bike and test your limits and learn from that
If you're in the UK (I assume they post internationally too) and want a stupid loud slipon exhaust for cheap, SP Engineering. They're good quality, they sound fantastic, and they're basically just a glasspack to smooth out the sound of a straight-through haha.
The choice of my exhaust is Arrow, Akrapovic and Yoshimura (mostly prefer slip on)
I love arrow
My 1st gen FZ09 came with a full Akrapovic carbon system when I bought it. The sound is intoxicating! I like the look of the SC's and Austin systems but as an audiophile, dont care for the sound.
Ran a full system on my R6...it was the bomb...sadly...sold off the bike...that was a big pain...
Idk if they are still around, but when I had my 08 gsxr600 I had a jardine GP1 slip on and it sounded sick and looked about as good as the SC slip on for like $130 at that time.
I personally like the rizoma mirrors but there’s no way in hell i’m spending $400+ on fu*king mirrors 😂🤣 it really hit me when you said thats 2-3 track days! Really love your videos keep em’ coming bro🍻
Same you can easily find some knock offs for cheap tho
I’ve never liked them but I quickly noticed how popular they are
I have a full titanium Graves exhaust system on my 2016 Yamaha FJ09.
Its absolutely amazing and I love it.
I have a 23 Yamaha XSR900.
I wish Graves produced something for this bike, however they do not.
I went with a full system from Yoshimura.
I think it really depends on the bike. i agree that 2200 for a slip on is a rip off. i got an complete exhaust system from sc for 1200 for my honda cbr650r.
Got the Akra System for my R1 with the long Slip-on. For me its a way better option then SC. Better Perfomance it can be somewhat quiet, and thats Important here in Europe on our Racetracks. Germany, Italy and France
Schätz mal du bist deutsch die WSBK replica Anlage von Akrapovic für die R1 scheppert trotz dem langen Topf ziemlich und die SC Projects kommen halt von der Leistung nicht an die Akras
@@MK0413 Ja fast Deutsch xD. Aber die Wsbk Anlage ist ja die "kurze" oder nicht? ich meine denn Trackday Endschalldämpfer der wirklich lange. Mit beiden Schalldämpfern kommt da schon in die nähe von 98db. Und mit beiden draussen kann auch gut laut sein. Leistung ist Akra natürlich top.
Aber wird sich im Frühling zeigen wie es wird, bin die R1 erst jetzt am bereit machen.
@@Loochy3 komischerweise ist die wsbk Anlage größer, bzw. länger. Aber ja, mit den dB killern sind meines Wissens beide für alle Rennstrecken (außer Sachsenring, da geht nur OEM Anlage)
Viel Spaß mit dem bike 💪
@@MK0413 Kann sein, bin mir da echt nicht mehr sicher xD. Wird wahrscheinlich meistens Italien werden. Cremona,Misano. Und halt Hockenheim wahrscheinlich. Da sollte es auch noch knapp funktionieren.
Zuerst muss sie dann auch noch abgestimmt werden.
Und danke dir.
Ouch I just ordered an SC Project S1, but tbh I fell in love with the sound.
Having you as a college professor would be amazing
Sound advice for anyone looking to get into motovlogging 🙌
Been riding for years and I've always shopped around for exhausts, being open to trying new styles.
Now ive got a 22 R1 and rrwlly wanted the SC mid pipe and slip-on but its absolutely crazy money so i found a chinese copy called a KO Lightning. Looks the same, sounds awesome and cost me £170
Nobody forces you to spend money on an item that you don't like or that you think costs too much.
Personally I have a SC on my Street Triple and it sounds like a symphony. I will never change it.
As for the Graves exhaust you recommend, it will cost much less but it looks like the muffler of a T-max 😀
Have a good street
I’ve been happy with my Leo Vince slip on on both my track CBR250R track and my Husqvarna street bike. The Husqvarna application is CA legal too. The CBR250R isn’t because the oe muffler is integrated with the catalyst converter, but it’s not a street bike anymore.
Can you do a vid that covers everything that must be done to upgrade the oem silencer on 21+ tuono v4 1100 factory bikes?
I have Akra on my RSV4. Came from M4. I debated about SC Project. But I didnt see it worth the money! Akra was similar in price and always has tons of R&D behind them. I run Akra on my CBR as well!
+6 hp by fitting a slip-on?
Keep dreaming 😂
You can get that with a flash and the oem exhaust lmfao
@@adobomotoSc much better then overpriced Austin racing and Graves🤣
Another amazing video
Glad you enjoyed it
TBH, I thought the same about Akrapovic but snagged a used one for cheap and I can see why they sell for a grand new.
That said, 2k is full system money. Plus installation and ECU flash.
Good observation!. I share the same opinion. People base it mainly on the brand as several products. I have a KO lightning exhaust that looks like the Sc Project and does the same job for $175.
There are so many SC lookalikes cause they’re so easy to replicate, it’s so true
I did a cheap Black widow decat and called it a day 😆. Best $135 ever
The price reflects what people are willing to pay. Same with Supreme T-shirts
I agree the moto vlog people are hyping these products up. If you say something about it in their comments or disagree then you're hating on them.🤷♂️
lmao, pretty much
dammed your so good keep it up adobo
Salamat!
Best exhaust system I’ve ever bought!!
Personally I like MIVV, Arrow, REMUS and SC Project although I went deaf from a SC Project GP Can on my Tuono. Signed “Ding Dong”
Graves has been the top of my list for my Tuono.
another hyped af exhaust is the austin racing 2 of my friends bought the de cat exhaust for the h2 and both of them have the mounting flange weld fail and the whole thing falls off.
My buddy had powdercoat issues with his black one
I do agree that the price is a bit high for a slip on, but the exhaust is constructed from titanium alloy, and it looks identical to the MotoGP version. Graves exhausts might be cheaper but the look hideous.
Lots of companies use titanium alloy including graves. Back when I first started riding over a decade ago we used to laugh at people with straight piped buckets. Now straight pipes are $2200 bucks and everyone is dropling over em lol
1000% there's far better options for aprilia than the SC GP or CRT. I wouldn't say they suck quality wise, every one I've come across range wise has good looks and welds (welders always shit on other welds, look at any welding video lol).
However, akra full systems, mivv full systems, Graves full systems shit even the SCR1 destroy any shorty pipe. I have a CRT strictly cause the noise is just perfection. If I'm chasing horsepower or going into competition if it isn't a SCR1, it's going to be another brand that builds a full exhaust system.
I have been eyeing the SC for my speed 1200rs but it's $1200. I am looking at the Leo Vince for $450 slightly less of a premium looking product but probably similar sound. That SC looks great and I want to pull the trigger but....$$$$$$
I just bought the Racefit black edition for my 765RS. Waiting for it to come in. I think it’s worth $600 and it’s handmade full titanium. They also have one for the 1200rs, look them up!
Do you remember around 2006ish when TaylorMade exhaust came out? People thought they were soooo cool. Turned out to be a super crappy muffler that rattled apart behind a carbon cover. And people were paying like $700 back then for that as a slipon!!
Oh fuck yeah. What a shit exhaust. But i think sc project is good quality.
I want your opinion about other alternate choice then akrapovic exhaust? Is Austin Racing same quality as SC project?
But its an all-time favorite of our fellowmen down southeast, perfect for shitbox 110cc Honda Wave Alpha with missing fairings.
hahaha nice
I’ll be entirely honest, you’ve had some opinions that steered me away from this channel, but this won me right back! I’ve always laughed at the suckers on instagram who shell out enough money to buy another bike, just for a fucking muffler!
no worries man. I'm not the page for everyone and their moms. when I started to understand that not everyone is gonna like me or what I say, that's when I started to grow
SC sounds good yeah but They’re crazy with the prices when like you said there’s so many better options out there
honestly I'd go with graves almost every time
i bought an exhaust of alibaba for $90 that id buy again three times before i buy that scp shorty, and buy anew suit helmet and a track day. i agree 100% with that logic
Both the rizoma mirrors and sc project exhaust can be purchased for a fraction of the price from ali-express.
I have both, indistinguishable from the "originals"
Cost for both: $200.00
yeah cuz they fake?!!! The real ones may be overpriced but they def are wayyyy better in quality. It may be indistinguishable but they don't last as long too!!
@HU.5670 the mirrors have been on my bike for one season. Still as good as day 1.
The exhaust is on its 3rd season now.
240hp erestricted, intercooler zh2.
Same as condition as day 1.
Sorry if this hurts your feelings.
@@jpbsv First of all we’re talking about years not “a” season lol. There’s bunch of videos out there that does comparisons for the Rizoma ones and made in China ones. Secondly, the fake sc’s doesn’t produce the same performance increase and weight reduction as of the real one. If it does then why would sc still be out there? It would’ve gone broke already, use your common sense bruh. Last but not least the only cons they have is being overpriced, their quality are still top notch compared to those shitty fake ones.
@HU.5670 ok...bruh...
Let me begin by saying that I'm not only a toolmaker/machinist, but also a master tig welder. In short, I build shit!.
The quality is 100% same. My bet is Italian sc uses China as their manufacturing hub.
It would not be the first time something made in Italy is actually just made in China.
And the reason sc is still in business is great marketing. Proff of that is.... you!
@@jpbsv lmao it’s not. Put it on the dyno, then send me the video link proving that they produce same performance I’ll wait. I already said it’s overpriced why would I buy it??? Better know how to read before claiming you own this and that or your profession . It’s all BS without proof 🫢
Tried them and kinda did not like the way they sounded on my previous motorcycles. As someone who does long rides, the sound wears you down. I mainly run Austin Racing, even if you have to wait months for them. New sub here ma mang!
Thanks for sharing