My K80 isn’t going anywhere. Personally I think they’ve missed the mark with this gun in quite a few ways to be honest. The F1 analogy doesn’t really work with shotguns, I take your point with F1 cars and drivers, but for world champ shooters they could shoot with any gun and still win. Sticking max vertstrapon in a Williams he simply wouldn’t win, give Nick Hendricks an old browning and he can win anything, hang on a minute that’s what he already shoots 😂 Sam green, the same, etc etc. Great vid mate, and good to see you back. Keep the vids on point and true to your spirit and the channel will grow. 💪 🇬🇧❤️
Spot on with the review. As you said, very much like a F1 car. It was very pleasant to shoot. Thanks for the channel and having me out for a go with the SL2.
The Benelli 828, that’s where I have seen this gun before. I love the look of both tbh. Had the chance to handle one of these (not shoot it) and I have to say if I was spending this kind of money it would be on my shortlist, as well as a Longthorne, K80 etc.
Super review Lloyd !!! Surprised you didn't pull trigger unit out to talk about. What a beautiful machine. I think Beretta has absolutely nailed this one for sure. IMO- worth every penny.
I think it looks fantastic. Kind of discrete but really appealing to me. Unfortunately its way to expensive for me to consider but I get why Beretta would develop this. Great review, as always.
I really like it, too! I’ve seen a couple of the group of 50 prototypes that have the neon green highlights for sale as well. Been looking at them for some time but I’d have unload about 6-7 from my collection I think before I’d get close to the cost.🫤
I like scrolls/engraving etc on the action more than plane actions but that looks really nice and the wood looks great with that zebra type stripes running through it
Great review as always, beautiful shotgun, I love the racy look. Interesting stuff about recoil, how do you defy the laws of physics? "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction " Keep em coming Lloyd you've been missed.
Recoil feel can be changed by modifying the pressure curve. A short sharp pressure curve generates a sharp recoil feel. You can flatten the pressure curve and take the sting out of it. In the Steelium barrels this is done with very specific forcing cone geometry which produces required velocity from a tamer looking pressure curve. It can also produce more consistent pattern dependant on cartridge choice obviously. Interesting fact - the idea of tinkering with forcing cones to decrease recoil and increase pattern consistency originally occurred in Vostok shotguns many years ago. Both Browning and Miroku also used "back boring" among others. Beretta have arguably perfected it to the highest standards and can back it up with data.
Excellent review, I would really love to see a Beretta shotguns ranking by you, from the worst to the best plus price comparison. Thank you for the all amazing reviews.
It’s a beautiful sleek looking gun and would compliment my SL3 very well. However, if it’s competing with the DT11 then I think it will struggle just purely from a price point of view.
I've been eagerly awaiting seeing this gun in the flesh. Got to do so at the Game Fair and was a little disappointed. Maybe it's because I'm a lefty and the gun was right handed so no palm swell for me. Just felt weird and lock up also felt strange. So want to like this, hopefully I'll get to hold a lefty 31inch at some point.
Yes I agree a Kreighoff is money better spent, best investment in the sport for the last 25yrs. They encourage their owners to service their products and that's why they are a good investment. And that equals high resale value.
Hi Lloyd Hope your well It just a stunning gun ! yes it not the cheapest out there but what is in life now I hope to try my mate one later in the year. Anyway more importantly when we getting a review on your K80 ?? Great review Lloyd 👍
Very cool Lloyd. I'm a watch ⌚ enthusiast and a keen shooter, and I'd say you would have way more fun with the Beretta than a Rolex. 😅 Can't afford either. I'll take your word for it that it's up there with a K80 or a Perazzi as I'm guessing you've shot them as well!? Don't knock it til you've tried it! Cheers for the review. Definitely will look at joining. Loved your Browning factory tour 👍
BEST GUN EVER MADE. OTHER GUN MANUFACTURERS CANNOT EVEN THNK HOW TO DO SUCH A MARVELOUS GUN. BERETTA SHOWING OFF THEIR CAPABILITIES AND INDEED THEY ARE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF THE SECOND....BRAVO AND A BIG THANKS TO BERETTA THUS WE CAN DREAM...
Interested to hear you are not sponsored or paid for your reviews by Beretta. A bit of a 'dig' at Johnny Carter who is sponsored by Beretta.!! Anthony Matrese Jn. used an SL2 and finished second in the World FITASC comp.
Compared with the Perazzi HT, how do you rate it? Because in my view, it sounds like an ugly copy of the Hi Tech (i.e., 3 inch chamber, larger forcing cones, additional weight, etc.) I would love to read your opinion.
It handles very much like a HT, however as I said in the video, for an off the shelf gun, it feels like made to measure. That is high praise given I am comparing this favourably to a custom made Perazzi.
Over 90% of Paris Olympic medalists used the DT11! How much more will this gun offer at DOUBLE the cost?? While I am a huge fan of Beretta, if I were to drop 20k on a shotgun, I would get a Perazzi where I can have it built as a truly bespoke shotgun.
Probably help if you knew the difference between kirsten bolt versus boss versus Woodward style locking systems. Theres nothing robbed from the SO series in that locking system.
Such engineering is only worthy of hand engraving and that would effectively double the price and severely reduce production numbers while increasing wait times. It’s perfect as it is.
When it come to F1 I prefer the V12 V8 engine from 80s 90s it was something beautiful the new one is ok but music is not the same anymore this shotgun is not may melody .
With those lines, I think the receiver would risk looking tarted up if it had a bunch of engraving. I wouldn't mind having one of these and a K80 just to offend both ends of the traditionalist spectrum.
I still dont buy that it's better than an almighty Krieghoff K 80. even after all these years, Krieghoff is the gun to beat when it comes to reliability charts and longevity tests. RATED FOR A MILLION ROUNDS. now thats German engineering.
To the viewers who claim it’s too expensive or not worth it; please stop. Your claim is subjective at best. The consumer will let Beretta know in short order if it’s “overpriced” or not. Great review as usual 👍🏻
That makes no sense - apart from the review comment. What you call a subjective opinion may well be made by those who may well decide not to be consumers. Their opinion may be entirely valid, based on a full and detailed consideration of the gun perhaps more so than someone who has the money to waste; perhaps more money than sense. Any comment the gun is too expensive is no less valid than someone saying it's not.
I cant see any Beretta being worth close to £20K, they're a high production company with a mass market audience. Most folks wont see any real benefit of all the 'new name' tech. James Bradley Day shoots a 694 and he doesn't miss much, they're priced at a reasonable £4K. Brownings XS Pro £4.5K again a cracking gun with a price that matches the audience its marketed at. You would be better off buying a turkish stock for a 525 or 694 or even a MK38, as most wont need the slight margin that the additional technology would grant you (Steelium Pro X barrels etc). If i had £20K i would get an engraved K80 that has the pedigree name to match the cost. I shoot a Miroku MK38 Grade 3 which fits its price tag without the embellishment of new name tech or design.
Es muy linda PERO HASTA AHI NI MAS . Por favor no la toquen más porque perdería todo sentido. Yo la conocí porque tube una 686 trap pero el que no conoce no sabe que escopeta es. Así que les pido por favor NO LA REFORMEN MAS. !!!HASTA AHI!!!❤❤
@@briannoble366 Until it develops the pedigree of the K~80 it remains unproven and therefore is not it’s equal. Yet this gun somehow commands a higher price than a Krieghoff K-80 (or Perazzi). I’m sorry but I don’t see it.
All i see is another beretta marketing/it department gun, don't get me wrong i have no doubt it is a great gun, but all the fancy names for hammer forging etc don't break targets, the same with all of the top tier line p/k guns, great guns but worth the money in terms of mechanical advantage- absolutely not, just another brag factor gun in the market
No, sorry, I can't see 20,000 pounds there . I own a Kerieghoff K 80 super sport and an F3 with these guns I can see the quality of engineering and love Beretters but not that one !!
My K80 isn’t going anywhere. Personally I think they’ve missed the mark with this gun in quite a few ways to be honest. The F1 analogy doesn’t really work with shotguns, I take your point with F1 cars and drivers, but for world champ shooters they could shoot with any gun and still win. Sticking max vertstrapon in a Williams he simply wouldn’t win, give Nick Hendricks an old browning and he can win anything, hang on a minute that’s what he already shoots 😂 Sam green, the same, etc etc.
Great vid mate, and good to see you back. Keep the vids on point and true to your spirit and the channel will grow. 💪 🇬🇧❤️
Spot on with the review. As you said, very much like a F1 car. It was very pleasant to shoot. Thanks for the channel and having me out for a go with the SL2.
The Benelli 828, that’s where I have seen this gun before. I love the look of both tbh. Had the chance to handle one of these (not shoot it) and I have to say if I was spending this kind of money it would be on my shortlist, as well as a Longthorne, K80 etc.
What a beautiful gun. Futuristic whilst still ergonomic. I really like the aesthetics.
I love Tiger stripe walnut.....gorgeous!
Super review Lloyd !!! Surprised you didn't pull trigger unit out to talk about. What a beautiful machine. I think Beretta has absolutely nailed this one for sure. IMO- worth every penny.
Another excellent no nonsense review. 👍
Great review Lloyd nice looking gun and good to see you back mate.
I think it looks fantastic. Kind of discrete but really appealing to me. Unfortunately its way to expensive for me to consider but I get why Beretta would develop this.
Great review, as always.
Thanks Neil.
Really enjoyed this review, I love your comments on the recoil, I’m intrigued. It’s easy on the eye too, I need to check one out. 🍻 Cheers!
The SL2 is priced out of 90% of all shooters.
Yes it is obviously a very high end gun. Beretta do make lovely shotguns however they are usually more expensive than they should be.
99%
I really like it, too! I’ve seen a couple of the group of 50 prototypes that have the neon green highlights for sale as well. Been looking at them for some time but I’d have unload about 6-7 from my collection I think before I’d get close to the cost.🫤
22,000$ you could buy a armory of shotguns 😂
@@casey10614 If you think quantity over quality is better. Then sure...
I like scrolls/engraving etc on the action more than plane actions but that looks really nice and the wood looks great with that zebra type stripes running through it
A brilliant review Lloydy. I have shot the trap version and it is incredible. I called it a DT11 RS or a DT11 GTi
Modelled on a Benelli 828 😂
Great review as always, beautiful shotgun, I love the racy look. Interesting stuff about recoil, how do you defy the laws of physics? "For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction " Keep em coming Lloyd you've been missed.
Recoil feel can be changed by modifying the pressure curve. A short sharp pressure curve generates a sharp recoil feel. You can flatten the pressure curve and take the sting out of it. In the Steelium barrels this is done with very specific forcing cone geometry which produces required velocity from a tamer looking pressure curve. It can also produce more consistent pattern dependant on cartridge choice obviously. Interesting fact - the idea of tinkering with forcing cones to decrease recoil and increase pattern consistency originally occurred in Vostok shotguns many years ago. Both Browning and Miroku also used "back boring" among others. Beretta have arguably perfected it to the highest standards and can back it up with data.
Excellent review,
I would really love to see a Beretta shotguns ranking by you, from the worst to the best plus price comparison.
Thank you for the all amazing reviews.
good review Lloyd. I like my DT11 it do the job.👍
As I watch this video, I'm going through my mind trying to decide what I need to sell to get one. 😂...great review man
Thanks man.
A kidney perhaps? Think it's a beautiful gun, but it's only something I can dream about at that price point.
Thanks mate, brilliant review, think you’ve just helped me make my mind up, I’ll start saving 😂 have a beer on me.
Ah thank you Michael.
Missed these reviews!
Stunning gun. Would love one but it would be wasted on me 😂
Benelli 828 U Hype Gun!
If I could afford it, I would buy it yesterday!
Good to see you back lloyd! That is one ass spankingly looking gun. Great vid as usual. Good egg!
The F1 analogy is good, but that R&D will trickle down to more production models. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some 694 improvements in a few years.
It’s a beautiful sleek looking gun and would compliment my SL3 very well. However, if it’s competing with the DT11 then I think it will struggle just purely from a price point of view.
I've been eagerly awaiting seeing this gun in the flesh. Got to do so at the Game Fair and was a little disappointed. Maybe it's because I'm a lefty and the gun was right handed so no palm swell for me. Just felt weird and lock up also felt strange. So want to like this, hopefully I'll get to hold a lefty 31inch at some point.
Great review and an interesting gun. Thanks for sharing
Yes I agree a Kreighoff is money better spent, best investment in the sport for the last 25yrs. They encourage their owners to service their products and that's why they are a good investment. And that equals high resale value.
Hi Lloyd
Hope your well
It just a stunning gun ! yes it not the cheapest out there but what is in life now
I hope to try my mate one later in the year.
Anyway more importantly when we getting a review on your K80 ??
Great review Lloyd 👍
Great review Lloyd if I had a spare 20k I’d have one 👍
Very cool Lloyd. I'm a watch ⌚ enthusiast and a keen shooter, and I'd say you would have way more fun with the Beretta than a Rolex. 😅 Can't afford either. I'll take your word for it that it's up there with a K80 or a Perazzi as I'm guessing you've shot them as well!? Don't knock it til you've tried it! Cheers for the review. Definitely will look at joining. Loved your Browning factory tour 👍
Thanks Adrian, glad you enjoyed it.
Another great review. Thank you for the excellent content and unbiased viewpoint.
Glad you enjoyed it.
BEST GUN EVER MADE. OTHER GUN MANUFACTURERS CANNOT EVEN THNK HOW TO DO SUCH A MARVELOUS GUN. BERETTA SHOWING OFF THEIR CAPABILITIES AND INDEED THEY ARE LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF THE SECOND....BRAVO AND A BIG THANKS TO BERETTA THUS WE CAN DREAM...
Only if you say so.
Amazing piece. Ist worth the Money. 😊😊😊
Interested to hear you are not sponsored or paid for your reviews by Beretta. A bit of a 'dig' at Johnny Carter who is sponsored by Beretta.!! Anthony Matrese Jn. used an SL2 and finished second in the World FITASC comp.
Not a dig at all, Johnny is a mate of mine, and he is quite open about his sponsorship.
Compared with the Perazzi HT, how do you rate it? Because in my view, it sounds like an ugly copy of the Hi Tech (i.e., 3 inch chamber, larger forcing cones, additional weight, etc.) I would love to read your opinion.
It handles very much like a HT, however as I said in the video, for an off the shelf gun, it feels like made to measure. That is high praise given I am comparing this favourably to a custom made Perazzi.
Over 90% of Paris Olympic medalists used the DT11!
How much more will this gun offer at DOUBLE the cost??
While I am a huge fan of Beretta, if I were to drop 20k on a shotgun, I would get a Perazzi where I can have it built as a truly bespoke shotgun.
Is this our new ASE? Great video, 👍
Nice review Lloyd, Have you got any plans doing a day out with JC at TGS 👍
Would love to honestly, but I would need to find time in @tgsoutdoors busy diary.
Great video thanks from Ireland 👍
Not a Beretta fan at all but tbh I do quite like this gun!
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Probably help if you knew the difference between kirsten bolt versus boss versus Woodward style locking systems. Theres nothing robbed from the SO series in that locking system.
Wonderful gun, wonderful video. Can this gun be used in hunting? Thanks.
Any gun can be used for hunting if you really want to.
Way to represent Dan! Here, here to West "By God" Virginia.
This is my holy grail gun for sure. Maybe if my numbers come up🤞🏻
It doesn't seem like this one is available in the U.S.A
Please advise.
Thank you.
Yes it is!
@@kafroony it definitely is.
The price is out of this world if we compare with K80 LIOYD you know I'm right?
Such engineering is only worthy of hand engraving and that would effectively double the price and severely reduce production numbers while increasing wait times. It’s perfect as it is.
A beautiful gun, but not worth 20k +
Great review of a great gun.
What’s that in silver pigeons?
Not as many as it used to be like.
Thanks for sharing this vid.
Looks like a Boss style lockup, they could do worse than that... the styling isn't really to my liking but I'm sure some will like it.
Great video that gun is a work of art I really like the way it’s been styled and I would like to own one
Nice gun
👍
When it come to F1 I prefer the V12 V8 engine from 80s 90s it was something beautiful the new one is ok but music is not the same anymore this shotgun is not may melody .
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With those lines, I think the receiver would risk looking tarted up if it had a bunch of engraving.
I wouldn't mind having one of these and a K80 just to offend both ends of the traditionalist spectrum.
You seem underwhelmed Lloyd. We all are!
I still dont buy that it's better than an almighty Krieghoff K 80. even after all these years, Krieghoff is the gun to beat when it comes to reliability charts and longevity tests. RATED FOR A MILLION ROUNDS. now thats German engineering.
To the viewers who claim it’s too expensive or not worth it; please stop. Your claim is subjective at best. The consumer will let Beretta know in short order if it’s “overpriced” or not.
Great review as usual 👍🏻
Thanks Dave.😉
That makes no sense - apart from the review comment. What you call a subjective opinion may well be made by those who may well decide not to be consumers. Their opinion may be entirely valid, based on a full and detailed consideration of the gun perhaps more so than someone who has the money to waste; perhaps more money than sense. Any comment the gun is too expensive is no less valid than someone saying it's not.
I cant see any Beretta being worth close to £20K, they're a high production company with a mass market audience. Most folks wont see any real benefit of all the 'new name' tech. James Bradley Day shoots a 694 and he doesn't miss much, they're priced at a reasonable £4K. Brownings XS Pro £4.5K again a cracking gun with a price that matches the audience its marketed at. You would be better off buying a turkish stock for a 525 or 694 or even a MK38, as most wont need the slight margin that the additional technology would grant you (Steelium Pro X barrels etc). If i had £20K i would get an engraved K80 that has the pedigree name to match the cost. I shoot a Miroku MK38 Grade 3 which fits its price tag without the embellishment of new name tech or design.
To expensive ,XS pro for me , have you seen the new 825 !
I’ve seen the launch video.
Hi Lloyd .I don't meen to be negative I just say it as I think
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Es muy linda PERO HASTA AHI NI MAS . Por favor no la toquen más porque perdería todo sentido. Yo la conocí porque tube una 686 trap pero el que no conoce no sabe que escopeta es. Así que les pido por favor NO LA REFORMEN MAS.
!!!HASTA AHI!!!❤❤
Say that I am in the minority if you want but the SL3 appearance is hard on the eyes.
Es un modelo q me desepciono de Beretta talvez lo corrijan quiero ver una escopeta de verdad un gran saludo a todo
All that, and they still stick a 1/2 inch bolt through the hinge.....😂
Beautiful wood, but way too much money
How much? You’ve got to be kidding. Money would be better spent on a Krieghoff or Perazzi.
This gun is every bit the equal to both of those, built in their SO factory (hand fitted) not their main factory.
@@briannoble366 Until it develops the pedigree of the K~80 it remains unproven and therefore is not it’s equal. Yet this gun somehow commands a higher price than a Krieghoff K-80 (or Perazzi). I’m sorry but I don’t see it.
Go German all day long for that cost .
All i see is another beretta marketing/it department gun, don't get me wrong i have no doubt it is a great gun, but all the fancy names for hammer forging etc don't break targets, the same with all of the top tier line p/k guns, great guns but worth the money in terms of mechanical advantage- absolutely not, just another brag factor gun in the market
I guess if it shoots good its worth it, but its really FUGLY. Even if I could afford it, I wouldn't buy it.
Just another too expensive shotgun.
No, sorry, I can't see 20,000 pounds there . I own a Kerieghoff K 80 super sport and an F3 with these guns I can see the quality of engineering and love Beretters but not that one !!
You and I would not fit in a F1 car.
Yeah. That’s why we can’t drive one. ☝️
incredibly ugly gun in my opinion. Really don't get it personally
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