Katie Hopkins | We Should NOT Support No Platforming (6/8) | Oxford Union
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The Motion: This House Supports No Platforming.
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Thank you for this!
Cheers & mabuhay, from the Philippines!
Oxford Union is actually beginning to scare me! Katie Hopkins?? Take a look at her Wikipedia page and try to swallow the fact that this is someone that Oxford University sees as a reasonable representative of conservative opinion. I have never in my life been so happy to not be associated in any way with Oxford. If you're going to have Katie Hopkins at Oxford Union debates why not Alex Jones or the current Grand Wizard of Ku Klux Klan, or just cut to the chase and just hold your debates at Broadmoor?
jeromesims Why not Alex Jones ? That’d be quite reasonable.
@@jeromesims Why did you not listen to the words she spoke ,You are the epitome of a free flowing Turnip
Oxford Union - please sort out microphones for those in the audence speaking. The audio is just about indecipherable.
Result was 224 to 49 in favour of freedom of speech. Well played Oxford Union.
OMG...more than 20% voted against the resolution!...really?... what were those 49 thinking?...what are they even doing in a university?...how did this happen?
@@malcolmgrant6027
perhaps the 49 are aspiring tyrants.
+Edit, or as Katie suggested,
they may be dogs just nodding their heads.
That 20% are in my opinion are some extremely dangerous people who will probably do their upmost to get into positions of influence and power, to sensor and control the 80% of us who want to live in a free democracy.
49 cretins, too many
Katie is correct. We should be able to debate anything. That is the difference between democracy and totalitarianism.
Mark Donald
That is so sad.
Try debating Israel’s massacres with Katie see how far you get
@Mark Donald A war is going to break out long before that happens.
Yes Kathryn, as long as we're not criticizing Kate.
People love to say that to defend fascist, conservative & white nationalist viewpoints while supporting the repression of socialist and communist viewpoints.
I didn't realise how good a speaker she is. Every point is valid. I hope the intellects take back control from the puppeteers out for their very minds
Katie is magnificent! She deserves a daily TV show I would watch faithfully
They're disagreeing on whether or not they should be able to disagree. Let that sink in.
Stupid breeding stupids then clapping like seals. 🙄
streglof Well said. Classic doublethink. The world is becoming more Orwellian each day that passes.
i think you completly missed which is the question and what is at stake - sorry for you
@John Sinclair yeah, you are right - reading too quickly is not the best thing
This is the true Katie Hopkins! This speech should be shown all over TV. She’s a rare breed.
she is a twat ! now deported from australia... hilarious..
She really is at her best here and kudos for the audience being intelligent enough to listen.
Yep totally agree, I remember when I first saw her on Alan sugars apprentice, she WON the position hands down but Lord sugar asked her did she really need this job as her current job paid her the same salary if not she was already earning a tad more so she did the Nobel thing and pulled out so her colleague who came so close in 2nd place take the role as she was totally cable and the salary would give her and her family a life changing amount of money each month, roughy about 7500k per month after tax and NI taken. Looking back at at Katie it was a lovely thought and gesture so under all that anger and armour there is a moralistic heart, It was quit hard to hear what was happening about it all but managed to see her nice side!!
That old man sitting in the front on the left just realised his life work has been defeated by Katie's argument.
That is the grin of acknowledgment of a beaten man. One who have sold out to an ideology long ago in his career.
I swear he was contemplating crossing the floor to redeem his soul.
Katie is the truth. ❤ Katie will not be intimidated. And will not be shut down. ❤❤❤
Now in 2021, Katie's message should be shouted from the roof tops. Especially here in the U.S.
More power to Katie, she knows right from wrong, and still going strong today.
The Aunty we wish we all had ❤
the University of Oxford, voted by 224 to 49 to protect free speech earlier this month.
Thanks, I wondered how the vote went, good to see a big majority.
@damintri you are correct, of course.
Wonderful news, However it is a shame 49 people are willing to not protect it.
And who were the 49 idiots who voted the wrong way? This is when I’m pleased to be a Cambridge man!
Thank you for saving me the poxy and the VPN and the 2ducks a leaving and . . . . . . stuff, aka surfing the
Thanks Stephen,
Cheekyness & Respects from Aus 😉
Correct. You choose to be offended, you choose to take offence. You don’t have to be offended, you don’t have to take offence.
Am happy you said that it saved me the time and your a million percent correct and sadly people these days of a certain ethnicity seem to like to be offended as that in turn makes them a victim and this in turn generates victim support from people pandering to the poor victim which then creates a sense of injustice toward them and thats where they gain leverage against the so called aggressor and we usually call this syndrome the racist card..
If your offended dont listen and if name calling hurts you grow some balls or walk away you have a choice with everything sadly these people choose to be a pandered to victim
@@ExplosiveLemonz she did it herself when she used the antisemite card!
@@philiprhodes5537 If she was offended by offence then why would she bother to stand up in front of an audience who are most likely not likely to share her opinions? Your statement "If you're offended don't listen". She went to the Oxford Union, did she expect not to be challenged?
aimeemacdn ...Free Speech, The right to offend does NOT mean that your Free Speech will not be challenged, it doesn’t mean that people can’t try to offend you in return. “Use Your Words”. The answer to bad speech is more speech.
@@philiprhodes5537 I couldn't careless either way... She's bias & when correct or challenge it hurts her.
Now you're the type that like to see ' others " been laugh at...From your saying. I do hope when your table turn. You don't ask neither seek sympathy.
Her down fall is that she only see and act upon what the bigots likes. Otherwise I find no faults concerning her. She could be in my team/ decision making any time.
Just seeing this for the first time in January 2023, realising this was over 3 years ago and WOW! I was not formerly a fan of Katie, but boy has time proven her correct on this topic! Now more than ever we are on a "precipice" in terms of losing the very fabric of free society and being told what we can/can't see, say, hear, think etc. Free speech (and free thought) is more endangered than ever and something we are going to have to fight for!
Same!! 💯
As a New Zealander you are one of the few people I have heard in a long time that gives me hope for a better future! Thankyou. You are absolutely correct. In my country everyone who dares to stand up against the government narrative has been deplatformed. Instead of critical thing and debate we have authoritarianism. And instead of sheep being farmed the people are now the sheep being farmed.
What a fantastic speech from a brilliant woman.
Too true .
This is how it should be done. Light hearted and everyone listening.
In the early 80s at my Uni (East Anglia) the students union tried to ban "racist and sexist" speakers. Most students were disinterested at the time in the union's activities which were dominated by the socialist worker movement. However, the majority of ordinary students turned up to vote against "no platforming" for all the reasons Katie has eloquently provided. We must protect everyone's right to be offended. God save the King.
Extraordinary, Katie. Such a powerful speech. Never get tired of watching this.
Olive, A brilliant speech to those who want to "strangle" free speech.
The late Christopher Hitchens put it best "When you tell me "I find that offensive" I am still waiting to hear your argument".
The Late Great Hitchens would be against the Mobs Canceling, Speech, People & History. The Left has become the Cancel Mob. Now Katie has been totally de platformed by the "am offended mobs." SMH They even took the woman's home? OMG!
I am so happy to see this. I was thinking of the exact same quote during the video. That man was a legend, he would’ve wiped the floor in this debate.
@@camamis1552 Here he is shutting up the appalling Shirley Williams on Question Time. There's a future PM on the panel too.
ruclips.net/video/gEVA4EAP_S0/видео.html
lewisner seen that one many times mate 😉
But Even if he hears it(the argument) , he will always swift around it by finding excuses to stay "offensive".
Some people don't understand .
I disagree with Katie and disagree with Hitchens.
You need to be careful how you talk to people , as there are very sensitive people who might commit suicide. Your words can affect a person's life! You better use your words for Goodness .
Treat others the way you like to be treated, even if you don't receive the courtesy back. Be the light in the world! Obey Jesus
De platforming is a COWARDS WAY of winning an argument, debate is the answer not cowering behind silence.
No Platforming is, quite simply, the modern-day equivalent of the book-burning that took place in the 30s.
Deplatforming does not win a debate, it avoids it by denying the opposing view the same rights you insist on for yourself. Having a debate where only one side is allowed to express themselves is not a debate at all. To make electricity flow, you need at least two opposite poles. magnitism allows for many poles, and is stronger for it. What a boring world where everyone is equal, equally intelligent, equally paid, equally employed equally unimportant, equally alone with nothing to say because everyone already knows everything equally. Equal opportunity rather than uniformity, and the right to disagree are vital.
Spot on.
Well said. Well determined. Nice one.
@@TemplarsatAcre Thank you.
She speaks with so much common sense and eloquence, great video
Excellent speech Katie! I couldn’t agree more
We need more like you in this country
Carry on the good work 👍
Holy crap, every University student in the world needs to listen to this.
If you want to discover the truth, you must listen to the arguments of all sides, beginning with those you disagree with.
Pamela Ryland ....which the left will not, can not do.
@@zachariahgoddard6039 Those are the center-right Clintonites. You know, the lot who were pals with Trump for decades before joining this WWE circus as a heel.
Michael, You should read more, get out more, speak less.
@@zachariahgoddard6039 Worked in 6 countries on 3 different continents and have 4 degrees. How about you?
And if you do not want to hear someone out and continually shut them down, then I don't believe a word coming out of your mouth.
This is the Woman That Our Media & Left wing Comedians make fun of .....As someone once said... 'FORGIVE THEM, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO '.... Kate is Brave & SHE IS RIGHT
Have to admire her! She says it how it is and how it should be! No more Snowflakes!!!
Absolutely Hit the nail on the head! End of......
the only ones who support no platforming are those who can't handle the truth.
That was a very good speech. Funny how when you let people speak, you discover new dimensions to their thoughts. Well done, Ms. Hopkins! 👏 👏 👏
That's the reason. Leftist idiots don't want to allow. Others to speak. Fear of the entire existence being shattered.
Fascinating stuff,well done Katie 👏no opposition, no democracy ❤
Katie’s final point is all that needs to be said. We either want a world where we put others in a position to decide what we are allowed to hear, or we expose ourselves to all opinion and ideas in the search for a broader understanding with our own reason and intelligence as a guide to deciding what to embrace and what to discard.
It is nothing less than hubris to claim you can assess and evaluate ideas without a genuine attempt to listen to and understand them.
ChuddmasterZero Sadly this world is dawning. The result depicted in 1984 is effected by the means in Brave New World. Debate is reduced to a mere expletive laden line in the comments section. It's facile to ever think social media gives us a platform. Very few, even here, write after thinking and analysing the issues raised. Intelligence is feared. Ignorance is promoted. I don't like the class ridden depiction of the dinner suited and evening gowned and I'm rather happy to see it disappear in the audience. But that's where we are. Dress an ignorant imbecile in a suit and they're a crowning glory in business. We've put image before any sane interpretation of potential and ability. And that's why free speech collapses. Our narcissism is resplendent in its superior grandiose enforcement of right and wrong because they are, above all else, right. Narcissists don't debate or agree to differ. They are always right. Is that the society we want? Full of weak Influencers? Sadly, it seems we do.
Amen.
I don't want to assess and evaluate the ideas of people who get sexual gratification from hacking at the genitals of children with scissors. Explain how that is extreme or excessive pride or dangerous overconfidence.
@@anonnona8099 Anti-semitic?
@@rsolo4770
> @anonnona8099 Anti-semitic?
What/who is anti-semitic?
What an amazing lady. And kudos to the Oxford Union Society for hearing her (so many others won't). There is some hope!
I'd like for them to hear Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer
Imagine thinking like this. Cretin.
She may have some good points but the way delivers those points is deliberately antagonistic.
I like the way Katie Hopkins tells it like it is.
I will also point out I'm a red head (or gingers as Katie calls us) and no I'm not offended.
A brilliant speech from Katie, thank you.👏👏👏👏👏👍
Love Katie Hopkins. We need her to be PM. She would be the best prime minister we ever had.
She would hate that, as there’ll still be others above her wanting to control her. She’s best as she is with nobody to answer to.
I clapped! She hit the nail on the head really. No platforming is a slippery slope; where does it stop, who decides what we get to hear or see? You’re either for freedom of speech or you’re not.
I would follow Katie THROUGH rings of fire, she is AWESOME. What a woman, funny, smart and so on point.
You must be quite a dull person.
Katie is a towering person with a lions heart......Most of western society are sheep and weak...We need more Katies...Thankyou.
Katie is a breath of fresh air. Articulate. Persuasive and insightful. You are intellectually gifted.
😂
She is. ♥️
I love this women
Woman*
Best argument for free speech I have heard. Passionate, informed and damn well right.
You should watch the other proposition speakers. They smashed them all the way dude.
Katie now completely deplatformed off the internet. Free speech is now gone in the UK.
@Quazi Roberts Yes
I thought Anne Widdecombes speech was better too.
@Ben Keil We were obviously watching an entirely different video. The one I watched, was Katie mocking people in the audience, cracking jokes and trying to justify being a bigot. Whereas, Anne's speech was passionate, informative and damn well right.
“The security looked like a Vegan” to hilarious!
History will show that Katie is one of our great individual who pushed back on the world gone mad, you have my greatest respect and i stand with you no matter what.
Bloody well said ❤
Katie Hopkins, you go woman. Cause offense. Shine your light everywhere. Thanks for your reporting on farm murders in South Africa and for speaking truth to power.
Katie you light up my life with your inoffensive humor, and courage.
david lloyd it’s crazy that not long ago I saw her as controversial trash (even if our views sometimes aligned). Has she “gotten better” or was my perception soured I wonder...
@@odiedodieuk she hasn't changed. It's all you.
These privileged young adults....trouble me greatly...its like they are scared of US finding out how they all became so privileged!!! Aka stop us questioning their words used against US...well said Katie 👏
I aspire to be this eloquent
Gives me chills. Katie will be remembered as a true fighter.
Yes she will , though entertainingly outrageous!!
Increasingly toward the end of her speech, there’s almost a pleading quality in her voice.
You can tell she is earnestly trying to get them to see the gravity of freedom of speech at Oxford, in the public sphere.
She’s trying to get through to them. Please God, let it work.
Katie you absolutely smashed it. So happy you got to speak here. I hope Katie is given more and more platforms in the near future.
@julie andrews She has herself to blame, no one else. She had a platform and abused her position with childish insults, slurs and derogatory comments to sell a newspaper. I understand free speech, but she said some slanderous things about people. I do think she was ill-advised and in some respects, a bit naive. The Sun and Daily Mail encouraged her to be outrageous and controversial, but when things got rough, they turned on her and discarded her in a flash. I do agree with some of her views on immigration and she does make valid points about terrorism, but for the most part, I think her ego is the cause of a lot of misfortune.
@julie andrews Yeah, it is absolutely true that everyone should be able to use a platform to say whatever they want... but Katie is a vile piece of work that only has herself to blame. She deserved everything that happened to her.
@@Aerojet01 "understand free speech, but she said some slanderous things about people."
That's the mantra of the left. I understand free speech but...Free speech is the right to offend someone. If she had really slandered someone, we have the ability to file a lawsuit. That's how free society works. You wacko lefties want to shut down people you don't agree with, admit it.
@julie andrews she deserved it all
She's a nasty twat. Plain and simple
Katie is such a breath of fresh air
Brilliant points presented brilliantly.🤩
Freedom to speak is everyone's freedom. No platform is a freedom killer. Thank you Katie.
I should have the freedom to no platform you
I love Katie she should be our next PM!!😁✌️🥳
I wouldn't let her have the remote for a tv.....
Nek, no tv remote, that seems a tad harsh.
Thank God for the First Amendment. That means we will never have some self appointed do gooder checking our thinking.
Roar Like a Lion Katie!! The people are hearing you..
she really deserves and award or something since she really has helped unify the nation.
Thank you Katie. The word “offended” is now being deleted from The Oxford Dictionary.
Listened to this many times and still get shivers and tingles when Katie gives her speech at the end..
Naz bottled it from Katie well done Katie keep debate alive.
Because she didn't have a leg to stand on, judging by the type of tweets she likes, about young girls being groomed should shut up for the sake of diversity. How does she still have a job as an MP?
me hee Socialism (communism’s little brother) diabolical to the core).
love watching Oxford union, Katie thank God we were born in a normal society xxxxx katie and OXFORD UNION. GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL HAVE NOT BECOME THE LIVING DEAD
Utterly brilliant and thought provoking. We are in very close danger of losing our civil liberties, so we'll said Katie. Stand up and stand proud.
I don't know how Katie continues to do it when faced with this shiiite... Keep it up Katie, us normal (& not brain dead) folks are grateful that you have this platform & can speak for us ❤️ Hopefully some of these "educated" youths will listen & start to think for themselves 👍
Katie....who's jewelry are you wearing?
America loves you! Give em hell! 💖
Well done Katie! Unfortunately, we are surrounded by weakened youth who have lost the will to fight and are offended by everything.
I thought they were pretty good at challenging her.
The right are the most easily offended. Tommy Robinson now wants asylum in the USA,couldn't make it up.
@@aimeemacdn lmao. You're joking...
Julian Assange's Twitter account has been taken down, kind of signifiant but no one is talking about it let alone outraged. WTF is wrong with people.
@Greg Lyons
What would you predict will happen should "Tommy Robinson" be seriously harmed or even killed in prison?
Her delivery at the end was perfect. It was so truthful, gentle, and calm it's hard to close your ears to this. I hope the younger generation fights for free speech.
That was spectacular. I didn't know Katie Hopkins had it in her to address an audience and such a 'difficult' subject with such exquisite fervor and articulation.
"Or will you all just come here to nod?" That is exactly what it seems like sometimes...
That was AWESOME! I admire K.H so much, even though I am short 🤣
Well executed Katie.
Multi talented Woman
I’m not a fan of all she believes in, in general, but I have to say, I was on side with her excellent argument. Nice job 👍
You're not required to...unlike the opponents.
Well said Anton!
Katie Hopkins was permanently blocked from Twitter today. Although I don't always agree with her politically, I respect how strong and courageous she is to speak in the face of a dauntingly large political orthodoxy that demands thought conformity. It's a sad day indeed. Let's see where we go from here...
If you would deny Twitter the right to do that, how far and wide would you go in other directions and areas in compelling businesses, individuals, or other organisations to do what you want, not what they want?
@@anonnona8099 Twitter, if acting as a private company, should be allowed to reject any idea they want. However, if Twitter is acting on behalf of the government that is fascist. As we now know, Twitter has been acting on behalf of the government.
@@stacypastry2440 Surely it could only be fascist if the government was fascist? Are you claiming that the USA is a fascist country? And you say "As we now know" - do you mean "know", as in having incontrovertible evidence, as opposed to the swivel-eyed frothings of right-wing and libertarian conspiracy theorists who are so unhinged that they think anthropogenic climate change and global heating are invented by people they think are left-wing?
Nowhere with your cowardly attitude
@@stacypastry2440 leave twitter boycott
This was a BEAUTIFUL moment. If you "get it" this should move a person deeply.
I tear up everytime I watch this. Love and salute from Texas.
You know things are turning to shit when Katie is the only voice of reason here
A sane voice in a world gone mad
This was so good and so true that I'm still nonplussed. This witty lady speaks so
well and is right on track. Kudos!
I love the dude knowingly smilling to him self😄😄
I am amazed how impressive Katie was. Didn't realise she was so bright.
So does that mean you are so bright you can judge another's intelligence? No
@@jak9483 If being able to articulate yourself well, purposefully get to the heart of an intellectual argument using examples and statistics and also win over a large part of a hostile audience using wit and charm that help to win an argument taken by vote amongst some of the most outstanding minds of their generation, is not a sign of intelligence...then what other mysterious thing is it please?
@@vindaloovince2194 So you do think you're bright, I was right.
THANK YOU KATIE LOVE YOU !!!!!!
Amazing speech
My God, how I love this woman.
Such a hugh relief to hear someone speak sense for a change instead of the usual media/BBC led crapshite.
Naaz Shah couldn't have handled Katie - fortunately for her she de-platformed herself
Naaz Shah de-platformed herself exactly because she couldn't handle Katie.
Six minutes in and this is just so freaking brilliant.
She is just so interesting and is an engaging brilliant public speaker.
Of course it is brillaint white boy,
Fabulous dear.
As an American, I didn't know who she was, but after hearing her speech, I can see how the UK Left must absolutely loath her. She's amazing.
Absolutely brilliant 👍
Without doubt THE most Intelligent,informative and educational speech I've ever heard Katie give. Yeah, you may not 'like' what she says. But the fact is? you can NOT argue 'credibly' against a single point she makes. Well said Katie.
Agree.
The opening statement about veganism was without a doubt the most dumb, uninformative and ignorant speech I've ever heard in this venue. Yeah you may not 'like' veganism. But the fact is? You can NOT argue 'credibly' against a single point that veganism brings up.
@@YeeLeeHaw You're right about it being dumb, I agree, but you're wrong because she was obviously fucking kidding.
@@rannnoch Where does she say that she is a vegan herself? I honestly didn't watch the entire video after that garbage statement so please provide the timestamp where she clear things out. Because if she is not in fact a vegan but contribute to the horrible things going on, her "joke" has no validity to it. You can't joke about immoral things while you are contributing yourself to those immoral things. To the average person it was probably funny, but it's only funny if you're ignorant about the reality.
@@joshuagreensmith4048 Where did I state that veganism was bad? I criticized her stupid joke, I'm a vegan myself.
I had never listened to Katie Hopkins before but I certainly will from now on . What a perfectly delivered response to the question of Platforming. She was absolutely brilliant and the quips and putdowns brilliant
You mean, "What a perfectly delivered response to the question of NO-Platforming."
Just sayin'... ;)
Brilliant from Katie. May she never tire in her efforts to bring common sense and anti wokeness to the world.
That was hilarious. I’m Muslim and I love Katie
"I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend (despite my disagreement) your right to say it."
And I wouldn't even milkshake you. 🤔
#FreeTommy 🕯
BearlyMHere He is a racist thug
@@victoriagodley5277 Have you ever tried to hug a jihadi? Try it and see what happens.
@@victoriagodley5277 amd your a brainwashed imbecile.....uk is being flooded with mass immigration and muslin no-go areas....open your eyes,stupid cow!!!!
"FACTS don't care about your feelings" 🤔
50 years from there will be a topic in the syllabus dedicated to Ben Shapiro.
Katie really masters the art of rethorics and arguementation!
Only a person that can't argue their weak point doesn't want to debate.
So Katie is first to mention abuse of power
Love Katie Hopkins, she says it how it is!!! Big support from Australia.
What a wonderfull speech. Don't let ever anyone tell you what you are allowed to think and speak. And don't forbit these rights to anyone
Katie Hopkins is a legend!
I bet that made them think . She is correct in her observations. We are being oppressed 1984 style, no doubt about it. People need to wake up and think for themselves
James Bolem
The fact that we, here today, are posting comment and opinion, in a free and undiscerning fashion, demonstrates without doubt, that we are living in a free society. Not a dystopian, totalitarian, dictatorship, as described by Zemyatin (who actually lived through such) and Orwell (who actually experienced such). When you unnecessarily exaggerate in the way you have, you dilute the historical experience - that is how humans forget the reality of trauma. Unless you have ulterior motives, there really is no need to inflame and frighten with misinformation. You're behaving in the same manner you claim to reject.
@@BioDieselEstate............ Wrong !, we are actually not as free as we think, we are monitored more now than ever . Just look at Facebook, Twitter etc and newspaper columns , CCTV everywhere, smart phones with gps.trackers in vehicles etc. We are fed crap by our media every day we live. Its not misinformation, I leave that to our mainstream media BBC are very good at it . You must be living with you head in the sand mate
@@BioDieselEstate Yet, people are literally trying to suppress speech. What video are you watching?
what a great speech i hope they heard it !
And me
She is amazing 👏🏻 well said well performed, very articulated and very well put together thank you a million times
In the ancient tradition of Diogenes, and the modern tradition of Slavoj Žižek, Katie Hopkins, weaponizing humour in pursuit of philosophical Cynicism. "Reject your sense of injury and your injury disappears." Marcus Aurelius. As a lifelong leftist, trade unionist, and democratic socialist, I'm with you Katie!
Roar with Katie Hopkins before it's too late.
Katie is a British Hero. I'm way impressed!
I love and respect Katie Hopkins intellect and understanding of what is right and what is wrong. RESPECT!
The lady in red delivered a great question, but the answer she received was far greater.