The Best Cheap Reloading Kit - Lee Challenger Breech Lock
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Every wants to know what the "Best Cheap Reloading Kit" is. In this video I review all the components that come with the Lee Challenger Breech Lock Kit, discuss what is good and bad about it and suggest alternative options. Sometimes the best "kit" is the one you put together yourself.
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Brass cleaning equipment:
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Scale check weights:
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Case lube:
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Stuck case remover:
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Universal shell holders:
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Funnel set:
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Power trickler:
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I started with the Lee Challenger kit. I still use most of it, like the press, powder measure, funnel. I upgraded from the hand primer to the Lee bench primer, which I think is agreat piece of kit. I also changed out the scales for RCBS, which are much better quality. But overall, the Lee kit is very good value for money and will get you into the game for relatively little coin.
I agree. I have the Bench Prime Challenger Kit, so I started with the Bench Prime.
The Scale is the major drawback of the kit, it is really only good for setting up a powder measure.
And personally, I don't like the Powder Measure, as it leaks quite badly with Fine Ball Powder. (H335)
Solid advice. I too started with Lee. Got multiple presses to include the "Classic"; "Turret" and the "C" which I use for depriming and bullet pulling (for oops).
The sheer excitement of getting into reloading is very enjoyable. Your suggestions are very helpful to get one on their way to a very fun hobby. Great video.
Thanks Toad! Was glad to see you picked up that new sponsor so we get to see more Video's!
NEVER underestimate the Lee Perfect. With ball powder, its pretty OK. However mine throws extruded powders (especially med-sm kernels like AR Comp, Benchmark, Varget) like a freaking dream. I adjust to EXACT instead of low and trickle. My adjustment to spot on is usually just a couple kernels. I have some decent kit but my Perfect has a permanent spot.
I also like their trimmers for stuff I don't load often or in volume. Works great.
Hi Matt, this is generally what I was trying to get across and I left it in my recommendation list. For the cost I really don't think your going to beat it.
True statement, mine doesn't even leak lol
@@BoltActionReloading I agree! My comment was directed towards future viewers, not towards you! My opinions of the Lee products closely mirror yours, at least the ones I have tried. I just wanted folks to know how great that measure is for some niche purposes. The Redding measure on the bench sees almost no usage short of the small tube and pistol loads. My Lee will certainly need to be replaced one day due to wear and tear :-) It gets a lot of use.
I like everything Lee has. I have RCBS too and the Lee works better and is about half the cost. The Lee powder measure is more accurate and easier to use than the RCBS. I don't understand why the author of this video says the RCBS hand primer is better. I have the RCBS and Lee both and the Lee is head and shoulders above better. I wish I had started with Lee instead of RCBS. I use hardly any of the RCBS stuff now.
Second this ☝🏻
Sir, I love this video you definitely broke it down and I am glad that you focused on the quality and not necessary based on price. I feel most who are starting are just focused on the price and become very disappointed with it. Thank you for making this video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
That thought process is pretty darn solid... having something "cheap", identifying weaknesses and finding inexpensive solutions.
I wore out my old rcbs... I bought the lee anniversary kit and have loaded 10s of 1000s.... it still functions like new... I have been reloading for 25 years... big thing is to keep the ram clean and oiled.. only thing I hate was the lee hand primer.. spent more time unjammig it then priming... I really like the set.. hand primer is the only thing I replaced with a good 1
I have had a Lee Perfect powder measure for years and I thought I would upgrade to a Redding powder measure. The Redding at about four times the price of the Lee is inconsistent and unreliable while the Lee delivers a consistent result every time!
I also have the perfect powder measure can't believe how consistent this thing is.
I used that lee Breechlock challenger kit with no upgrades for years everything is useable including that scale
I use that lee cutter and lock stud, but I put the cutter in my drill and the lock stud and shell holder in a vice.
I bought Anniversary kit for $115 10 years ago and was able to reload right away. Then I've got digital scale and caliper. When I've learned about case trimming I've got some small trimming tools to make my reloading even better. I've already reloaded thousands of rounds and no problems. Highly recommend for beginners. Today I'am recieving my turret and progressive presses from Lee. Mmmmm, can't wait!
I think it's a great kit and I've used mine for tens of thousands of rounds by now, pistol as well as rifle.
The only thing I want to add to all comments below is: as with any new (to you) piece of equipment, you have to *learn* how to use it properly. Basically goes for each component in the kit.
The powder measure is so good and accurate I've bought a second one - only with Hodgdon H110 did it leak. For the rest: adjust it as per the instructions so it has just the right amount of drag, and don't jerk it when throwing charges - it will be spot on each and every time with basically any kind of powder.
so, I bought the press speperatly, and then bought each item as i went along.. saved money and was deliberate. for a great value... each prepping or trimming items should be deliberate.. i stuck with the frankford de primer and primer hand tools, and few different trimming tools.. hand and motorized.. this video , is dead on! he speaks the truth!! listen to him!
trimming tools, i got the little crow one, hand trimmer, ball cutter, and lock stud ones.. each has its own "time" works great
Great video. Been reloading sub moa hunting ammo for a year or so on an inexpensive Lee kit with a few key upgrades. I just wish I could buy more time to spend at the bench and the range ;)
My classic cast is still my most used press, and I have a RL550. The classic cast has a LNL quick change bushing for my dies. It does all my single stroke tasks.. Decapping (I clean after decapping), primer pocket swaging, my rifle loads, pulling bullets with a collet puller...
The hornady hand primer uses standard shell holders, like the ones you use with the press. That said, I feel the old lee hand primer was a better primer.
Agree on the cutter, 100%
I started on the challenger. I recommend it. I also bought a Lyman case trimmer at the same time. I still use them
This is an excellent video recommendation! I have the classic cast and love it! The C-frame is a great companion press for quick decapping or fast pistol brass sizing, where the longer stroke of the the O-frame gets tiring fast! The only problem with my older model is that it has an internal cavity where spent primers quickly fill up; hopefully, that's been resolved. The on-press priming system was trash, and the way my ram was clocked, wouldn't even function with it. Lee sent a different adapter, but it wasn't much better and I wasn't about to adjust all my dies, so I went with the RCBS universal hand-prime instead. It was a much better investment, and way faster than press priming. The lever on the Lee classic needs a much needed improvement, though. I had a spare Dillon handle and it fit perfectly. Also, there's absolutely no reason why Lee SHOULDN'T include the ball handle on their trimmer! I used to rock climb and my grip is greater than most, but after trimming 30 cases, I'm about to chuck that thing out the window! I don't care if they have to add to the price, it just needs to be in there. Other than that, solid press all-around!
I myself, prefer RCBS gear, but i have loaded ammo on Lee equipment and managed to produce sub MOA accurate rounds with no effort at all. the equipment is a little cheaper and not quite as heavy but it is clean, precise and accurate. Lee equipment is just fine and if its what you can afford, i say go for it.
Unless you need the power of a "O" 0r "C" press, the Lee Turret is wonderfull. You interchange calibers, and the always stay preset for the next batch. I prefer a Hand primer, you can feel each primer go or no go, while watching TV
Plus 1 here. I have the classic turret, 4 hole, with indexing rod. Also the lee flow through powder measure. When I start reloading a new caliber I get another 4 hole press head for that set of dies. Absolutely simple, set once and forget.
I absolutely love the primer system on this press. I don’t deprime on this press. I keep dirt and carbon away from presses. Especially when it is made from aluminum. The quick trim is amazing when you upgrade the handle so you can use a drill. I use a black & decker hybrid power screwdriver/drill. Every twenty five rounds you have to blow out the die and cutter. ( I use a small box.) Plus you need to make sure to wipe the case holder off if a shaving is sitting on it. Which in turn will cause to trim at a different length if you don’t. The different caliper die cutter holders are not that much. I can really process my brass faster between the primer system and the quick trimmer. And my hands don’t hurt. The Harley deprimer tool is an amazing as well.
Thanks for your advice. I have been Lee for my .38 & 9mm competition reloads. Now I am going to get this one for my 7mm-08
Decided to build my own and am still working on it. Started with the MEC marksman and picking up stuff here and there
The Franklin priming kit was what I got in May of 2022 & it was $50 and some change. Great item. Others may want the RCBS both are well worth it & many use them when they have gotten sized and trimmed brass and just need the press to seat the bullet.
I have been using the old style lee anniversary kit, ( does not have the prime on press feature ) , but I have literally loaded 100s of thousands of rounds with it. I did end up getting the lee bench primer, once you get used to it's querks it works well. I have never really considered a different press, and I have worked up a few 308 palma loads that shoot one ragged hole at 100 yds. I can't complain.
Hi Brad, Thanks for the comment! Its different strokes for different folks. There is not one best anything for everybody. If a guy just wants to reload 9mm and needs the equipment to do it I am sure it will do a fine job. I am also sure it has worked fine for a lot of people and that is why they are still in business.
I would like to see you put together a beginner kit with an upgraded press from the Lee and EVERYTHING you would need to get started. A price range of 350.00 to 450.00
I would like to see a video comparing the Lee beam scale to other options. Show us how accurate they are (or can be), or how inaccurate they really are.
For me I've never had good luck with any electronic scale. That said I've always used cheaper ones.
the lee beam scale is just as accurate as any other. The two reasons that people don't like them is they are annoying to change the setting, and that it only goes up to 110 grains making it not very good for sorting components.
The lee scale is very sensitive but the system for .10's of a grain sucks, and you gotta make sure the razor blade is seated correctly.
I have a little Lee scale but I never really sort components (although I might in the future). I had a string of bad luck with electric scales so now I have like 4 or 5 that all suck. In other words I've been shopping for scales for several years with no luck. One of these days I will fork out the money for a good scale if I can find one.
I'm really wondering if the Lee scale is able to be "more fine" than other beam scales. The others go to 500grains and the Lee 100 so I'm wondering if there is any way to see if there is a noticable difference in accuracy.
Only thing is you can change bushings out on the challenger, as to where you could not on the C press, unless they have changed the design of the new C presses
Digital Calipers is a MUST HAVE for reloading.
The decrimpers from the Lyman tool will fit in your power drill, super easy for bulk decrimping.
I started with the Turret and also got the C frame back when they were giving it away with the purchase of their book. Many moons ago....
After 5 years of reloading I've upgraded many things. However the press remains the same a lee breach lock challenger.
At first I thought the press was holding me back but it honestly is all the prep to be ready to load. anything that makes all the steps easier to get to the point of primer powder and bullet is what I'm after. The reloading process is much more enjoyable when the mundane steps are handled in a timely fashion. I will still load my all my rifle round on the breach lock I enjoy the process. however I'd like to speed up my pistol reloading on a dedicated progressive.
I have been reloading now for roughly 26 years and have not up to now ever needed a "stuck case removal tool".
Also, the Lee chamfer and deburring tool, although not ideal, is functional. Unlike the Lyman, it makes is less likely to chamfer excessively when using the powered option. The primer pocket cleaners, again, not great for hand use, but does fit quite nicely in a drill.
I'm saving my casings, and waiting for things to get better and level out before I start buying materials and later the tools.
My first press. With some personal add-ons 😉 thanks for the great video! I’ll keep you updated as the reloading progresses. I couldn’t pass up this kit “(challenger”) for the value. Thanks again!
Good video and kit . I Started with the Lee classic kit about 12 years ago I believe it was. LOL I used the steel wool for cleaning brass like the Lee manual suggested.it works but soon replaced with sonic cleaner. Now I use wet tumbler with the stainless pins. Thanks for sharing
I have a Lee Classic kit that is getting a new bench just for it soon. I bought that kit when they were $89 for the whole setup. How many rounds it has loaded I have no Idea, but at one time, I loaded 1000 rounds of 357's a week for over a year. It is still my go to press for plinking ammo.
I have a Lee classic cast single stage. It works ok, but not for straight ammo.
Your channel is one of the most informative.
I appreciate that!
@@BoltActionReloading do you always full resize your brass. And do you think that full sizing shortens the life
HI Jason, To be clear when I say "full length size" To some I mean bump sizing. If your definition of FL sizing is setting your die against your shell holder and adding a half a turn you have not idea how much you are moving your shoulder back. .002 to .003 is all you need. More than this and you are probably causing some shortened brass life. You really need a comparator if your setting up your sizing die. Hopefully this is clear, if not let me know.
I'm very happy with the Lee hand press kit. I went with some of the products that you recommend. The Lyman Case Prep Multi Tool is awesome. The Lee trimmer with the ball handle is great. The scoops with a trickler is working working out well. Every bit of advice you give here (that I can speak about) is very good.
Great to hear!
Shop garage sales and estate sales I picked up an RCBS Rock chucker a few years ago for 35 bucks just have to be patient but the deals are out there.
Garage sales are a great opportunity but you can't always wait and hope that what you want is available on any given Saturday either.
I bought 200 new in the box never fired .308 Lapua cases once for $20.
@@BoltActionReloading With the lack of supplies (primers ,powders ,brass and bullets ) not to mention reloading dies and presses you better have patience .
Do NOT try military brass with the C press. I've broken 2 and bent another. Same for the hand press. Broke mine a week ago. Lake city brass.
Hi Mike. If you remove the crimp with something like the RCBS military crimp remover I can't imagine how this would be an issue. I have seem people try and swage on them, certainly not ideal but if you were removing the crimp off press I wouldn't think that it mattered?
Glad I found your channel. You are very thorough. 👍👍
Welcome. I hope you enjoy it!
Thank you for the awesome content video. I'm going to start to reload because is getting harder to find ammo in my country to my S&W revolvers 👌👍
The lee powder scale is best used to verify a cheap electronic scale. I always like to have two scales and I keep a 6gn piece of aluminum as a check weight. I got their value turret kit for pistol ammunition, I think it's the best bang per buck if you do mostly pistol.
i started with the lee kit. some of the items are not great ( primer pocket tool and that evil deburring thing come to mind) but other are very nice indeed. i don't find the hand primer to be bad but mine is well broke in at 30 years old. lol the powder measure isn't good enough for bench rest but is for range fun and pest control. it is very consistent for large and small amounts. just a pain to set up. i like the scale and only picked up a cheap electronic one a few years ago. i check against the beam and if it fails out the door it goes. note you don't need a check weight, 3 items of different weights will work. both scales should = each other for all 3.
I started with the Breach Lock Challenger Kit. Swapped out the powder thrower for an RCBS model, the beam scale for an RCBS model and a G2 digital scale (the G3 is not available here yet). Use either an RCBS or Hornady chamfering/demurring tool, and added a couple of cheap powder funnels. The press is quite capable as a single stage press if you’re not loading high volumes of ammo.
I think the kit works, the more time you spend with it (or any kit for that matter) you are going to find places that you are better served with something else. Everyone has to start somewhere, and everyone has different goals.
Nicely done! Excellent over view with really nice tips, highly recommended!
My breach lock challenger kit came with both press priming and the hand priming tool
Does any company make something similar to the “classic lee loader”? So you can do everything without a press? Lee doesn’t have a set up for 6.5 creedmoor. Doesn’t even have to be a kit I’d buy the parts individually if I have too
Nice vid! I do like the chamfer and primer pocket by lee. Very easy to spin between thumb and index finger. Nice and small, works well. Thanks for the info....
Buying into reloading can become addictive, expensive too. Going to a gun shop or show and seeing a gun you like is fatal when you reload, especially if you have an inclination for various disciplines for which you need different guns and cartridges. Then you upgrade tools for efficiency, or accuracy, or cause you want to try it out, see if it works better or not. It can be a rabbit hole, but, very rewarding in what it enables you to do. Over 40 yrs I don't think I've spent 5000.00 on tools yet, a couple of cartridges paid for them all, and future ones in what I saved on them over factory over the years, and I've been able to shoot various disciplines I had a lot of fun at, that I probably would not have ever looked at if I didn't reload.
Great video. I got into reloading about 30 years ago. I am not even sure how much stuff I have anymore. I do agree with you that it's a good value and that buying the parts individually would be better. I however am very much not sold on digital scales. I have a couple but check them against my Reading beam scale regularly. I have not had good luck with digital scales. Really enjoy the video thanks
Hi Aaron, Thanks for the comment. Knowing what you all you want to do with it before you start is a big thing that I think people just don't know when they get started. Until you start going through it, make a few mistakes, and get a process down that works for you, it may work or you may have wished you went another way. My experience with digital scales is there are a lot of ones that are just plain junk, especially in the low end. But now I have had a couple good ones that I almost never have to rezero and the read very consistently, I could never work on a beam scale. I know some guys love them and that is fine for them, just not for me.
Excellent video. I started with Lee because I wanted in real cheap to see if I would stay in, and just kept using them.
One Item I use is the Lee Zip-trim, I have it on a board and c-clamp it to my bench, it's faster to me than changing the brass on a drill, but that's just me.
I didn’t want a cheap kit, I just want a manual kit for a single caliber. I think this is the best option.
Agree on the deburring tools the scale is not so great either i ended up getting an rcbs scale at wall mart. Love my turret press.the lyman case prep station & wet tumbler is the way to go fof what i load mostly pistol & 223
Outstanding! Many thanks for sound advice 👌
Glad it was helpful!
Well done. Thanks
the only adendum I would add to your video is the "C" press does not work well for large cases, I tore the feet off of one trying to resize 270 winchester, up to 308 is ok, i just would not go any larger with the thin feet on the C press.
Great video, me personally, I really like the Lee beam scale. I bought a digital scale and I can’t stand it doesn’t stay on permanently, shuts off if your not fast enough to get to it.🍻
You certainly need the right digital scale. I have had good luck with hornadys g3 and JRB recommended a couple others that worked well for him. One that doesn't shut off is a must.
@@BoltActionReloading
I appreciate the tip.🍻
Just started reloading last year; and because I had a free Lee Challenger press I was able to build a kit. So my two cents; the Lee Auto Bench Primer ($25.49 at Titan as I type) is my preference. I have tried on the press priming and prefer the Bench Primer. I have a Hornady primer and the Bench primer is simply less fatiguing. I ended up with several Lee presses (including the Load Master), so far I like the Challenger and the Breach Lock Pro.
From my experience (and watching some good youtube vids) I think avoiding the kit and building your own along the way is the way to go. But; as you pointed out. There are times you have to settle for what is in stock if you want to start now. Which is not really all that bad since in your use case, as you gain experience, other kit will be preferable. But that experience is going to cost money. :^)
If I could only give one piece of advice to new reloaders it would be to stay away from brass trimmers that have a pilot which gets inserted into the neck. You don't trim until after you size, and all that stupid pilot does is gall up your necks, tweak them out of round, etc. Biggest headache relief ever was getting the L.E. wilson trimmer ($153 currently), but other options like the Worlds Finest Trimmer caliber specific can be had for much cheaper ($75) or ($99) for swappable cartridge specific chambers.
So I'm glad you didn't recommend any of those, because I'd much rather use that Lee cutter IMO.
thank you very much for this video!
The frankford primer is hands down the best quality primer you will find..
One cheap little thing that added a lot of convenience for me was “Lyman Powder Pal”. It’s a plastic powder pan with integral funnel. Not having to look for and reach separate funnel was well worth $8 to me
Hi Frank, I have heard mixed reviews on these. Glad to hear your experience was positive. Are you using it strictly with extruded powders or have you had luck with the Ball powder not sticking as well?
@@BoltActionReloading Glad to say I never had problems with powders sticking but I can guess static might be a problem with plastic in a dryer environment.
I do most use mostly extruded powder (imr4064 & varget) but also recently helped a friend on his 45colt with TiteGroup ball powder. The titegroup dispensed very accurately from my chargemaster lite and I like the “Powder Pal” because it has a big lip that prevents powder kernels from bouncing out.
The one issue I had with it is I thought it was a little bit too light for my taste - so I epoxy glued a dime to the bottom of mine.
Thank you for all the great videos!!!!
I bought a Lee Reloading kit in 2001 and started reloading. Every big game animal I have shot since then has been with my reloads. I have shot Dall sheep, moose, grizzly, caribou, wolf, wolverine, and elk. Reloading has added another dimension to hunting, just like fly tying does to fishing. I could afford more expensive reloading equipment, but why?
I use the Lee Universal priming tool it works well 1995
If your doing 30-06 sized cartridges, the C press is a real pain to seat bullets. You have to place the bullet into the die, and then raise brass, cant fit bullet on top of brass.
The difference in the ram stroke between the 2 is only 1/4" I am not sure that this is going to make a substantial difference one way or another. I think long cases like 30/06 is just the nature of the beast., especially if you are using a seating die that has the sliding collar. (Hornady) Gotta lift it with your finger every time. My take on the kit is getting the best experience you can for the lowest cost to get started. The C press has been a lot of guys second press for decapping, etc. I think its good enough to find out if you like to reload or not.
Lee case lube is arguably best lube on the market hornady. Make similar product
Prices went up since this video.
Super video; thank you.
When it comes to presses, they are easy to sell if you tire of them. Get something with a cast “O” frame.
If your going to use it forever, I agree the O press is far superior, but a lot of guys want to get their feet wet and see if they are even going to use the equipment. I hear far to often that they pick the kit entirely over budget, I wanted to give these guys a alternate idea of something to step the initial quality lever of the "kit" up a bit when they start. I have seen the C frame presses going for $20 in the past and a lot of guys pick them up just to decap or even seat at the range.
@@BoltActionReloading Could you do a video in reloading data options? I like my Hornady online subscription plus the Lee manual and free data from powder manufacturers.
There are lots of options. Nosler and hodgdon have free data. Sometimes it's just nice to have a paper manual to look at and make notes in
I have had horrible results with One Shot lube. Still get stuck cases. It is garbage for what it is supposed to do
I started with the lee... I prefer to prime on the Turret press. don't like the handheld that much
I was looking at this as a stranger to reloading, two things, you have to get a press that is not awkward to use (I have XL hands) the left hand press in your split screen photo would be difficult for me. and for *#+’# sake build a decent loading bench that does not bend and wobble when you use it ! I cant think of anything more annoying !!
Lee scales are meant to check the powder measure, not weigh individual charges.
It works perfectly for what it’s designed to do.
Hi Paul, If that is what you use it for that is fine. I am glad that you are happy with it. However in its directions and instructions it never says not indented to weight individual charges or not intended for trickling.
@@BoltActionReloading you’d need to read Lee’s Modern reloading. Lee doesn’t believe in trickling charges, they promote volume measure.
@@paulstarnes3112 what lee "promotes" in their manual has nothing to do with what they state the equipment is capable of, or requires people to use it that way. They claim that their scale is good to measure .05 gr. "If only 2 lines are visible (plus a tiny amount on either side),
you are then exactly halfway between graduations and reading to
.05 ( 1/20 ) grain." Marketing matters. I am not telling anyone that the scale dies not work, but when you start getting to a $50 scale there are better options that will work for trickling and are much faster to get your reading than watching the arm of the scale bounce. Some people weigh every charge, some throw charges either is fine but Ill pay a extra $8 any day to get a scale that is accurate, responsive, I can load a ladder test without having to touch the beam, and I can trickle on. Personal preference is just that personal.
You're out of Lee reloading kits 90030 so when will you have it ?
Good work, very nice. But all your videos are. Thank you Sir.
Glad you like them!
Great video, just what I was looking for. The Lee "C" to me is the weakest thing in this kit. What would you go to as a step up from there? Thanks in advance.
Nice video..
My question deals with the Lee Shell Holders. Are the designed to clip into or onto the piece on top of the ram? Mine go in put very loosely. Is that the way they normally work or am I missing something?
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Do you see any problems reloading 7mm rem mag with this press?
Excellent video.
Glad you liked it!
...personally, I'd look for used equipment - many folks THINK they want to reload but don't have the patience - OR they get married and the wife unit says - "Me or reloading - make your choice...I've gotten equipment from guys that were given that Ultimatum...
So just get the press separately, forget the kit, right?
Question pls. Let's say I'm loading .308 ,how do I know how many powder it takes I side the case shell, and also if I have 175 grain bullet and a 150 grain bullet does 175 will need more powder in the case. Main question is how do I know how much powder to add in each load or if I load different grain bullet in reloading .308 . Is that info comes in the one book for reloading
You can find load data online and in reloading manuals.
New mic? Sounds good.
My hornady is gle stage is nice the first one I bought to get into reloading, but when I run the press to top of stroke it peaks at the top then drops back down a 1/16-1/8th in. Dont know if that's normal but if I knew then what I know now I would have gone a diff way for a reloading press.
I also prefer the marksman reloadr scale from truweigh, got into that scale from Johnny's reloading bench.
The hornady LNL classic is a cam over press. It is designed to be that way.
new mic or are ya feeling under the weather?
Recording at 5AM. I didn't think it would be that noticeable but I've had a few comments on it now.
@@BoltActionReloading now that's dedication! thanks for more great content.
Glad you enjoy it
Seems to me that buying parts individually will rack up significant shipping charges.
What dies do i need for the 30-06 and 6.5 creedmoor starting to reload.and how many i seen 3 and 4
Depends on how much you want to spend. Lee will work, I prefer Forster, but any will probably work.
For rifle, you really only need a two die set; Full length resizer/depriming, and bullet seating die. You general don't NEED neck sizing die or factory crimp die. They aren't a negative to have.
@@paulharveu526 thanks mr paul
My calipers don’t have a rotating table , does this mean they are not concentric ?
That's a good question. Probably not. I just think it looks more interesting than a static image
@@BoltActionReloading , it was cool , pulling your chain , this is my current favourite reloading channel :)
Glad you enjoy it!
A balance scale always works as long as gravity works! Not true for battery-powered scales. It's OK to be biased, but not stupid.
I have been reloading for about 15 years and started off with lee equipment almost exclusively. I switched over all my equipment to gear from redding, rcbs and hornady and use powered trimmers and case prep station. reloading is much more enjoyable especially when loading in bulk. Skip lee and invest in quality equipment from the start.
The best cheap reloading kit? I guess it's the only one.
The Lee Primer sucks, it broke all the time. I threw mine out and bought a Frankford Arsenal Perfect Seat Hand Primer.
Hahaaaa. I started cheap n ended up spending waaaaaay more. To new reloaded. Take his advice an mine. Build ur kit.
Tools important, not press.
46 Weatherby? Ok, I"m beginning to believe you know less than you want us to believe you know. Just reading a script someone wrote for you, me thinkest.
No one wrote me a script. But I do research off and take notes. Most people can't correlate 3.5" ram stroke to what caliber does it work for.
Why would you say, "46 Weatherby..."?
I guess you have never miss spoke before, and I didn't catch it in the edit. Obviously should be 460 Weatherby. I have no worry whether you believe me or not. If you find someone else that spends the time and money I do to perform all this testing let me know, I'll quit making videos and just watch them.
Buying a "kit" is a bad way to use your money, when all is said and done. They're very incomplete to properly handload. You don't have to break the bank, to handload precision ammunition!
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