What Do You Need For Reloading And How Much Will It Cost In 2022?
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- Опубликовано: 11 дек 2021
- Is it time to finally start reloading your ammo in 2022? With all of the shortages and price increases I decided to see if the items needed could be found, how much it will cost, and how much does it cost per cartridge?
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We don't have many people that reload here. If SHTF I need to be sure I can get bullets for my firearms. Thats the number one reason I started reloading. # two I like to shoot. #3 reloading is enjoyable. Thank you for taking the time to make this video. I hope it helps a lot of people.
During shortages of reloading components, which have happened many times in my +40 years of reloading, I stock up on items that are reasonably priced, but I won’t participate in price gouging. That hurts us all. Places like Midwayusa won’t cheat you, but I also understand they can’t operate at a loss.
Thanks for another great video!
Midway is great, so is midsouthshooterssupply
I have always used Lee Presses; Collet single stage for trimming and decapping, 4 position progressive without the advance rod for Sizing (without expander), neck expansion, Micro seater and micro crimp die. This rig is ok to shoot better than i can buy. I use Lee bench primer. Cleaning cases is better to deprime first, lot less dirt to remove.
Lee dies come with the appropriate shell holder. They are a great value for normal applications.
5 years ago I started my own reloading with a Lee Classic Turret kit. That kit, plus one set of dies, and a few extras like a funnel, caliper, etc, currently run a total of about $350.00 for all new equipment (not including supplies like powder, etc.). That will get someone loading for one caliber. With that same equipment, I've loaded 10's of thousands of rounds with no issues in 9mm, 38/357, 45acp and 223. Supplies have just about doubled in price since I started, but having suppkies on hand, I had sufficient ammo for weekly range visits throughout the Covid shortages.
Great video Tom. Your concise and descriptive discussion about getting started in Reloading is a great view for new comers to reloading, and to someone like myself who has been reloading since the 90's as it is interesting to see a refresh on what is currently available out there. Great job.
The best time to plant an oak tree was 75 years ago. The next best time is today. If you like to shoot, you should reload your own ammunition, for a variety of reasons. There's never a bad time to get into reloading, although there are times when your ROI will happen faster. Two things you didn't mention, or perhaps I missed it, is that the brass you bought can likely be reloaded 7 or 8 times, minimum, before needing to be replaced. For each subsequent reloading, your cost does not include the brass. Also, if you reload for something far more uncommon than 7-08, the time it takes to recoup the cost of your reloading equipment is reduced dramatically! For example, I reload 44/40 and 7-30 Waters. If you can find factory ammo for those at all, the prices are incredibly high. However, by stocking up on components ahead of time, I can reload both of those for basically the same net cost of any common cartridge I fire.
The last thing I'll mention, and something I really hoped you would touch on, is that hand loaders can reduce their charge weights, cast their own bullets, and take other steps to increase the number of rounds they can fire, even during times such as these. By loading your own, so many variables are under your control, even when components are not as readily available as they are during normal conditions.
The number of reloads you get from a case is also dependent upon the pressure of the loads and whether or not you annealed the case necks. Sometimes you will have to discard some cases after the first shot and each loading there after.
Tom, thanks so much for going through the time to put this together. Really heavily looking into doing this and what a help this has been.
I'm so glad that helped Wes.
Great video Tom and spot on as usual. I started reloading at 14 and I'm 66 now and like you I enjoy the time, accuracy and cost savings involved with my 2k-3k round a year habit. My nephew wanted to start reloading so I sat him down and set him up. He wanted to reload 9mm and 223, a used Lyman Spartan press with a nice tight ram filled the bill, $15. A RCBS powder measure and stand at a gun show got the nod, $20. Dies for both calibers, gun show also, $20 and $25 respectively. General small parts for case prep, homemade case lube (ISO-HEET + liquid lanolin), shell holders, ect. $40. Only new item was a Frankford Arsenal Universal Case Trimmer. Yes, it was $100 but it's a one time expense and IMHO is the best bang for the buck out there to handle the most tedious job in reloading requiring precision. I did him a solid and I cast so I gave him 500 9mm 124 gr. powder coated bullets and a couple bags of Winchester 55 gr. 5.56 FMJ bullets, sold him 1000 Small Rifle Primers which work fine in both calibers for $50. I had bags of range brass, free and I showed him how to clean it in buckets with soap, water, vinegar and citric acid. He picked up a pound of HP38 and CFE 223 for $40 per pound and he's happily turning out rounds every week for just over $300 and is already planning a few upgrades with the cost savings on ammo. $.08/round for 9mm and $.35/round or so for .223.
Way to go Ken. Now that's starting him off right. Not only for reloading but saving money in general. My big problem these days is time and I've developed a really bad habit of just buying whatever rather than looking for a much cheaper and simpler solution and I want to thank you for reminding me of that. And I especially like the homemade lube and cleaning your brass in a bucket with your own solution. I'm going to have to try both of those at some point, if I ever get the time.
Smart man. We have a big gun store in San Antonio that has a whole room ( like 14 x 20 ) stacked with used reloading equipment and components. They get most of it from elderly widows. Cheap cheap cheap
@@nohandle257 Uhhh, you wanna tell me which one? Is it Nagels? Sounds like it'd be Nagels.
@@RogerCharlamange Yup.
Thanks for this video!
I was looking for a video like this. Nice video!
this has been one of the most informative videos, that is easy too watch i have ever seen. Thank You for the help and great video
I've been stocking up on reloading equipment and components since 2013. I have 4 presses (2 metal kits, 2 shotshell) still new in the boxes. I'm happy I started back then (something inspired me). I'm finally retired, and will start reloading as soon as I set up an area to load, which I'm doing now. By starting back then, I've probably saved about 40% of the today cost. Great honest video on what is needed, and also all your videos are informative, motivational, and inspiring. I haven't seen much of that on the net lately from others.
Always a pleasure to watch and listen to your videos. Simple living is the best, and you present it better than all other channels that i watch...and there are lots. Keep up the excellence, Tom. Thank you and God bless you and yours
Thanks, I really appreciate that.
Sending your vid. to a friend right now that's just getting into reloading.
It was easy to follow, thorough and well thought out especially the cost breakdown.
Thanks again :)
As always, simple, honest and completely right!
I have been handloading for over 28 years, (before I eldest son was born), but mainly pistol, 9mm, 38 Special and .357 Magnum, so I have most of my reloading equipment down patt, I have even expanded my reloading press to get a press for every caliber, auto indexing and doing case prep on single stage press. I remember loading 9mm for just about $4 to $6 a box of 50. BUT, with the cost of powder, $35-$45 a pound, cost of primers, $90-$140 for a brick, (1K) and the shortage. I just restocked on components for .223, (I ran out of components for pistol loading last year), but loaded about 4K rounds of 9mm/38/357/40 mixed. (Those Dillon Presses are just AWESOME, loaded 2K 9mm rounds in 2 days.) I recently paid, $280 for 8lbs of Win 748, so that is $35 a pound, bullets were on sale, so I got 20 boxes at $12 each box, primers, OMG, I got a brick at $90, and then found 700 at $10 a sleeve, I did find some primed brass with bullet combos for .223, but that was $95 each, so that comes out to .35 a round, without cost of powder. I was able to find 500 primed cases in 9mm, I have bullets, but that was still .19 a primed shell. I have 2K primers to load .308, but only 7 lbs of IMI 3031, and no bullets. So........ I think that this will be my last run on loading my own ammunition. I can get 9mm for $17, I know it's .17 cent at round, but cheaper then .19 cents, .223 or 5.56 can be purchased at .35 in bulk, which is just cheaper then loading. I think that overall price of primers / powder has made handloading cost more then factory, bullets have stay pretty much at the same price. Just my opinion.
Great video. Thank you for posting
Just getting into long range precision shooting and reloading with my new AXSR in .338 Lapua (or chambered in $7 bills 😂) Incredibly helpful video for a beginner reloader! Thank you for the time and level of detail that went into these lists and this video.
When reloading you will learn which cartridges are more efficient than the others.
That was really great thank you
This was a great video, lots of useful information, thank you for that! I kept checking gunbroker enough and eventually found a Lee Pro 1000 and and RCBS Partner with the dies I needed for 75 and 45 dollars respectively, the deals are out there if you look long enough. Both of them even work!
What a great informative video, I’ll be showing this to a few friends that have expressed interest in reloading. Wish I had found a video like this before I started, it can be quite shocking when you add up the cost of all the components and continued upgrades. Thank you!
Thank you for that Alaskan Adventure, and I hope it helps you friends out.
Thank you. That was very interesting and informative. I’m still in the thinking about it stage. Best Regards
I know this is from a year ago, I found it very informative. I'm still on the fence about reloading, but you cleared up a lot of points. Thank you!
Thank you Tom for your amazing video. Im a newbee and your videos are the only ones that I can follow. Your detail is amazing.
Thank you it’s helped me
Good video thanks for sharing the info
I’ve been reloading for a while now and I really enjoy it and it’s just something about killing something with ammo that you reloaded yourself that’s really satisfying… and you can get real accurate with your firearm.. bottom line a really enjoy doing it…. Keep the videos coming…
Now is always a good time to reload. Reloading is always more cost effective.
I wouldn't say it's more cost effective for someone that doesn't shoot very much. But these days it seems we're less and less able to depend on ammo manufactures so with the times we're in reloading is starting to prove a lot more valuable than just a cost savings.
Over time, yes. Cost savings isn’t as important as the security of knowing you will never be short of ammo. Let alone WITHOUT ammo.
As soon as I saw this I thought "Equations".
The cost of the necessary hardware to be set against the difference between shop bought cartridges vs home made multiplied by the shots fired.
It is just how things catch you.
No
That’s a ridiculously ignorant statement.
I have the Lee kit. I didn’t pay nearly that much for my all those items. Lee does come with a book and I caught some of the items on sale and bought a lot on online auctions You can do it a lot cheaper if you aren’t in a hurry. I bought a wet tumbler at Harbor Freight and you don’t have to worry about your family breathing in lead dust
This is such a great video! Just wanted to say THANK YOU and you have such a charismatic personality! THANK YOU AGAIN SO MUCH!
You are so welcome!
Excellent run down on what it take to get started.
Thank you Tom for all the great information , I was recently given a rcbs rock crusher from my pastor . I'm saving brass and starting my list of what I'll need for 243 I'm don't waste ammo target shooting but would like to make hunting loads .
This was a great video , clears the fog for a beginner
Thank you sir for a Great video it was very informative and interesting ,I've thought about getting into reloading/hand loading for a while now ,and I'm going to say now is the time because from what I've seen the past few years and the stress it caused trying to find ammo and shooting suplies, I'm going to be ready for the next event because its absolutely going to happen its inevitable and as each new shortage happens the prices continue to go up on reloading equipment and they never go back down to the prices before the event not even close ,so I'm going to make the investment just for the stress relief and Comfort of knowing that no matter what happens next time I will still have ammo to fill my needs
Thank you for this video, sir.
I hope it helps Texas Hawg Killa!
Great accent and great introductory video into what it takes to reload.
I just ordered a Lee kit, after getting some advice from a couple older guys that have been reloading for years, they all said they had used them all but that Lee had the best tolerances as far as dies and powder measures. They said the rcbs was probably the stoutest built but had never had issues with the others
Tom, I just want to say the alga-rhythm finally introduced me to you channel 😃 I love your channel! Excellent instruction and information.
Like many people I’m into reloading now. Finally, was able to get some powder yesterday for rifle cartridge reloading but no primers yet. I will never be depleted again. Lessons learned. 😉 I love reloading and it’s benefits.
Anyways, thank you for sharing your channel. Keep the videos coming and my favorite so far is the British Enfield .303; excellent craftsmanship. Thanks again! 👍🏻😃
I'm glad you like the videos and I appreciate you letting me know that. It's comments like yours that make this worth doing.
Very well done 👏
Its not just about cost or availability, but making custom ammo. 30-30 with 110 grains for coyotes and practice, 380 with 115grains, 9mm with 100 grains going 1400fps, and so on.
Great honest video
Thanks Paul
Thanks for sharing. 👍
I hope it helps!
Loading ammo is not for everyone but I love it. Never shot a deer with a factory load. I get gives extra satisfaction along with smithing my firearms. Started reloading since age 11. That was 53 years ago. I reload for family and friends. That also gives me a great deal of satisfaction to know I had a part in their success. I describe to others that reloading is a lot like cooking. Got thousands of reloading recipes. I load for accuracy and leathality. I reload more than I hunt and shoot. I have much knowledge from experience in firearms and reloading ammo. Don't want to bragg but that and 50cents won't buy me a cup of coffee 😊
Thank you for explaining. I have been wanting to buy a kit but didn't know where to start.
Glad I could help!
Nice video! I began loading using a Lee handloader back in the 70's, for a hunting rifle. They work, especially if you have good scales and weigh your charges. Later on I got a 550-B Dillon to load .45 acp and 9mm, and used it for rifle cartridges as well, but I do still weigh my powder charges for rifle, and just use the Dillon to size cases and seat bullets, and I hand prime rifle cases. Now, components have become obsolete, especially primers. Even black powder and it's substitutes have became unavailable.
I learned how to make my own black powder. I fortunately had the foresight to stock up on components when obama was elected president in order to continue to have ammunition for my cartridge rifles. I am considering getting a flintlock rifle or a percussion cap making kit to go along with homemade powder.
Great info Tom...thanks amigo!...woods
Thanks woods, and I was just checking out some of your videos. You reminded me of just out of shape I've gotten because I got tired just looking at some of those hills you were climbing. That was some impressive scenery.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving If it makes you feel any better Tom, i'm not always in the best of shape either...hills N valleys...LOL...woods
How I started making my own reloaded cartridges in 1966 and the cost. Marlin model 336 rifle $89.00. Lee Loader kit $9.95, (2) boxes of Winchester 150gr factory ammo $3.99ea total $8 dollars. One box of Winchester primers $.60cents, 100 Hornady 150 gr bullets $3.99 and a pound IMR 30-31 powder $3.99. The whole shebang cost me under $120 dollars. When you figure it out; making my first 100 reloads cost $.26 cents a shot and the next 100 rounds $.14 cents a shot there about. The idea back then was you practiced with reloads and hunted with factory loads. Both Lyman and Lee made these handy reloading tools and Lee still does I believe. If you don’t have much money you can still make your own ammunition for less than $1,000 dollars. I know Benchrest shooters that use this style of hand loading tools during shooting matches. They would adjust the powder load for the shooting conditions. They would use the same cases for shooting their groups during the match. That was a long while back; but that is how they did it. They also are still used by people living in wilderness areas far from your local shooters supply store too. That is real simple living the cheap route. 🎁🎄🎅🙂
I really struggled with what items to list. I know a person could make some perfectly good cartridges with the handheld tool, just a measuring scope, and some basic components. And it doesn't take everything I listed. But I also figured that the person that would benefit from a really simple setup like that isn't going to shoot many cartridges and a person that isn't going to shoot many cartridges is probably better off just buying up a few boxes? It was a tough call and I eventually decided to just list the stuff that I found the most useful for me.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving I think your presentation was a difficult subject to cover in a short video and you did a great job of explaining the tools and systems for reloading. Reloading is as complicated as you want to make it. A simple Lee Loader kit is a great leaning tool. If you never tried one you should. Just to see how simple the set works. The cost of shooting is just out of reach for some people. Don’t underestimate the reloads they produce using one. They will make some accurate ammo with a little practice. If you have limited space and money everything comes in the set you need. You can start out with simple tools and progress to more complicated systems. It is pretty fun to have a reloading system that fits in a lunch box. Shooting and hunting has been made to complicate with ideas of what it once was.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving.
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving.
I've had my small Dillon tumbler since 1986 and it's still running strong!
Thank you for all the information. Having the prices was very helpful. When you included bullets powder and dies was very helpful as well. I have not seen anybody else include that in the pricing, which I was always wondering. Thank You! Now I guess it really depends on like you say how much you plan on shooting. Around here in Maine ammunition that I shoot is anywhere from $40-$60 a box of 20 rounds. But if you include your estimated say $1 per round and then add all you had to spend to start relading say $800. It will surely take quite a while to catch up to the price I pay for my rounds for how much I shoot per year. I may shoot a box or two in my deer rifle before deer season just to do some grouping and see which ammo shoots best with specific bullet weights. So for me, reloading does not sound like it will be very cost-effective. The only problem there lies I still may want to take up the hobby. Like you stated as well "who knows what will happen in the future with the way this crazy world is going". You had a lot of great information. Thank You once again! ( Maine North Woods Hunter) RUclips, (Shane)
you are 100% correct ! I bought a used Lee 1000 progressive press, it is not user friendly, bought the lee single station one, and I seem to only be using it. I am in no rush , just started reloading so when I get more comfortable maybe I will try the progressive again.
Agree on that Lyman Manuel. Worth its weight in Gold for sure. Solid review. Thx Tom.
Thanks txhuntsman!
Way back when I started with the Lee kit to load 38 Special, 32 Winchester Special, and 303 British. Decades later I still use the scale, powder measure, priming tool (replaced), and the trimers (replaced). I started so I could shoot cheaper, and that worked. I still load for those three, and now many more. Good overview of the things you need, some I skipped and others unmentioned I find necessary. The Sierra manual has always had the best "how to" section of any manual I've seen.
Craig I've got to say that was one difficult video to make. I wasn't sure how deep to get into some of this for a new reloader? I also genuinely like Lee, RCBS, and Lyman. I think all three have some great products and some not so great stuff so it was tough making suggestions especially when throwing in the kits and what came with them and what didn't. I just hope it gives someone starting out a good idea of what to expect as far as cost and equipment?
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving :The one thing it took me too long to replace was the Lee deburring tool. L. E. Wilson, RCBS, and similar designs are so much better.
I started reloading in 1982 with an RCBS rock chucker kit that I still use today, I do have access to a progressive
press but I always use my RC. Back in 82, a pound of powder was $12, bullets $8, and primers $2 could get you
100 rounds loaded, yup those days are gone.
Welcome to 2021/2022 and start saving, components are slim to none or overpriced, we have been down the
shortages before and we'll see them again. Reloading is still a blast and you can really make some accurate ammo
but it's not a cheap hobby, it's fun and you just shoot more $$$$
My only suggestion is to reload, and shoot and shoot often.................
Thanks Tom👍
You bet!
You forgot to mention the Lee loader!! The most basic budget way to make a cartridge from components! I’ve actually never used one but I love the idea behind it and if I were to pick up a carbine in say 357 or 44 I’d definitely add a Lee loader to my kit!!
Fantastic video again Tom!!
Logcabinlooms uses a Lee classic loader and loads quite fast.
I love the Lee Loaders you won't set any production records but you can load anywhere. Wish more people knew about them. A 1000 yard world record was set with the Lee Loader.
It's never a bad time to get into reloading!
Excellent video for entry level reloading. Cost of living always rises, so buying all the basics now will definitely make reloading cost effective, later down the road. I stocked up on everything, years ago. Right now, a box of 35 whelen is $80 . I can reload it for $12 a box or less. Same for 5 other calibers and 3 gauges of shotgun shells. With all the rush to buy up supplies and equipment, as things settle down and wages catch up with inflation, I predict that there will be many good deals on used equipment. Some of us know that way more people get in and back out of reloading, than people that stay with it.
Supply shortages still happening for reloading supplies also affect construction, electronics and car deliveries. Projects that should start in 3 months and take 1 year are delayed 18 months or longer for materials, then take 2 years to build. This is the new normal.
thank you sir,
Again...GREAT VIDEO. Gave all the alternatives,didn't try to sell one kind or another.You don;t talk like we do here on the coast of Maine LOL
The Lees quick trim case trimmer tool that comes with the kit requires a quick trim die for each caliber you want to trim. Also the Lee powder measure sucks for fine grain ball powders, because it leaks, so you will end up needing better powder measure if you use such powders. I started using dippers, and then got a lyman brass smith measure (really nice for the price).
The lee perfect powder measure is adjustable to allow for metering of of various powders. It only leaks when not adjusted properly. Otherwise its broken or worn out.
New comer here. Excellent instruction and delivery. I felt like I sitting right there in your shop. Thanks for the wise advice. Liked and subscribed.
Glad it was helpful!
Tom I reload when ever I can in loads that I know will Work From 38 special to 7mm if I can get the parts I do what I can Do thanks for support all of us reloaders thank you for your support
10:27 Mitutoyo digital calipers are great, I love my 4" and have a 6" also. I accidentally leave mine on for weeks at a time, they don't have auto shut off and my batteries last a long time. SR44 Battery. 11:28 Don't drop the dial caliper on the floor! Even though you can compensate some inaccuracy by rotating the dial face if your dial jumps a few teeth, probably toss it.
I really liked the video, I was lucky when I started as I had a friend who was an old hand and he walked me thru it. That was a good thing as it can be confusing there is so much to take into consideration...there are many ways to go and some of them are very expensive...he was a competition pistol shooter and had enough Dillon stuff, he could make any amount of .45 he needed and most of it was automatic. The choices you demonstrated were great for the first-timer and for me I always liked the RCBS stuff...I think, for me, it would be difficult to get the stuff I had in today's market....but hopefully, better times are coming and they will start with the midterm elections. God Bless, and thanks.
I'm praying you're right about the midterms!!!
I'm old and i did a test of lubes for ease of operation 5 different lubes and kiwi neutral; by far kiwi makes the easiest lube for press operation. works on BP bullets as well.
One reason for loading is when you have obsolete cartridges to load. I have a 303 Savage that I need to load for. I can't imagine why the manuals do not list these cartridges when that is one reason you actually have to reload. I can't find any original 190 grain so I load it with 170 grain 30-30 bullets using data from an old Lyman manual. Great video, by the way.( Been loading since the early 1970's)
Great video God bless you,,!!!
Thank you! You too!
Thanks for another well done and informative video. I, like you, am mostly thinking of keeping myself in ammunition, especially good ammunition, for the future. We just don’t know how things will be and personally I’m not expecting rainbows and unicorns any time soon. Quite the opposite most likely.
I’m not throwing money away but I’m also not crying in my beer over the painful prices I’m forced to pay for components right now. I’ve managed to get everything I needed even though fully revamping my hand loading setup in the last few months …. AND buying new rifles and calibers to replace my 30s. All of which I sold. No more heavy recoil for me. Never liked it and I’m shooting better now than I ever have. At 71 years old I am having more fun with shooting than I ever have. I’m now a fully ordained convert of the church of smaller but faster caliber church.
I have been heading in the same direction as far as smaller but faster calibers. No point in taking a beating if we don't have to!
@@TomRiverSimpleLiving I should add ….I’m also excited by what I’m finding out about monometal bullets. I’m getting good accuracy AND superior wounding. So far. I’m loading just to moderate velocity as I never shoot beyond 200 yds and using 120 grain bullets which keeps recoil down even more.
Now my 7mm 08 is my ‘big gun’ and with these light bullets even it is painless. We do have wild elk running around here in my corner of SW Texas and I have some 140 grn partitions loaded up for the highly unlikely occasion I would shoot one. They’re considered ‘exotics’ here and unprotected.
I really wish I had gone to 243 and or 6.5 Creedmoor years ago. I don’t like to think about all the money I wasted on 300 WSM, 45/70 or even 270 either. I still have a bit of a flinch those guns caused me to develop. Flinching is weird. It’ll pop up when you least expect it. %^))
My father introduced me to reloading many years ago but the best information I ever got was by reading a manual and then reading it again. Then read a different manual and another. I have never stopped learning stuff about reloading because the more I know I realize how little I really know.
Same for me. Solid advice.
As a reloader who has learned a few things from some mistakes. A bullet puller tip is to use a shell holder to hold the cartridge being pulled, especially if you need to pul a bunch of them saves a lot of time.
Now that's a great tip! Thanks Edward.
I am so happy my step grandma never got rid of my grandpas gun smithing tools. He had a full set up. Only problem is that it's all on the other side of the country. Over the years since he has passed I've gotten really into hunting, started with his old hand built 30-06. Now I'm interested in going further into the hobby. Hope I can get out there soon.
Have it shipped
@@jhscheppele2448 yeah not a bad idea I'll have to call her up and see if she still has them.
Just curious on your loaded bullet cost did you use the full price of the case or 1/3 the price of the case since it can be used three times. Great video thx Jim from Georgia
The best time to start reloading is TODAY! Thanks for the video.
I bought the Lyman AA8 Turret Press Kit. It was on sale for $620. It doesn't have everything but it has most of it.
I watched my dad and his buddy reload when I was young boy. Never got into it. Just turned 34 on the 8th and I am doing research and looking at kits online. I think I am going to go the budget route and get the lee turret press that way I can have my plates set up with different calibers I use so I don't have to constantly be setting up dies in different calibers just change turrets. Anyway. I looked at the Rcbs kit with everything but case trimmer and tumbler. Then I found the lyman that has the electronic powder dumper. Tumbler. Case trimmer. Etc etc. Found it for 6 something. Then I found the lee turret press. Though it is cheaper I have seen good reviews. I think that's the one for me. Time I buy dies for 6.5, 243 wssm, 2506, 7 rem mag, 308, 30-06, 270, and get primers, bullets powder etc etc I'm going to be in for a grand at very least. If I went with the other I will be way over a grand. I might not like it 2 months after I start. What do you guys that have experience with the lee think about it? Lee has been around a long time to my understanding. I have plenty of brass for all the calibers I mentioned. After I get into it I can get a different press if I feel I need it. I don't know if my line of thinking is correct or not.
Speaking from the future (February 2023), I'd say that the best time to start reloading is yesterday.
Problems in logistics, pandemic(s), politics & legislation, geopolitics, war (think Ukraine as an example), random surprises etc... They all affect what's available, at what price, and for how long.
From where I'm speaking, it seems we've now hit a particularily long spell of challenges, so if you haven't already started reloading, I recommend you do it asap. It's not a question of price-per-shot anymore, but a question of mid to long term ammo security.
So start now according to whatever budget you may have, and continue doing this thinking long term, with a prepper mindset. That way one may even get those price-per-shot values down.
Also, very good video! Your calm and conversational delivery is a joy to follow.
Great video. I have never reloaded but just a couple days I bought my dad's kit from him lots of stuff. I don't have any idea hie to do it I been watching video after video. I saw a fancy electric powder depencer some dude was using. He and his son shot in competitions. I just want nice tight groups at range. You sir is my favorite so far. The next big thing to happen? I'm afraid war. I hope to God I'm wrong though.
Shining brass is nice but I once read tarnished brass fires just as well as shiny brass. Just make sure it's clean.
Well it's now 2023 and still no "Rainbows and Unicorns" on the horizon. Great video by the way, LOL
If you get yourself a set of powder dippers you do not have to use the charger or the trickler and save money and use the press to sit primers and do without the hand primer too. You can start loading a lot cheaper and then add other things later if you want too
Thank you,Sir.Funny how presses and peoples opinions are like pistols.Everyone has their favorite and usually that is the one they bought !
at minute 13, remember to pick up the kinetic bullet puller collet, it fell on the floor. Is it really necessary to clean cases between loadings? I inspect cases for length, defects. I shake, hand wash in an old cake icing container with a little Dawn, to remove lube, then dry in the sun. If I neck size, I don't clean them aside from dry wiping the exterior, and brushing the inside of the neck, as I shoot at the range.
After you get the hard-core equipment and dies you’re mainly looking bullet cases and primers and powder I’ve been working on it for a year on a fixed income and I finally got ready to start by my dies I wanna do it for a hobby and I get tired of going and hunting season and they have one particular brand or grain of bullet that you’re stuck with but I think people will enjoy doing it it’s not for everybody but I don’t know I’m going to enjoy it I’ve stuck with the RCVS
Lee sells full turret kits for significantly cheaper if you primarily want one caliber.
LEE PRECISION 38 357 PRO 4000 Press Kit
Doesn't come with the grain measurers and such.
Reloading is like finally paying of your car loan. When you get all your supplies, or your car, the initial cost is pretty penny. But when you finally get the supplies, or paying of your car, it becomes cheaper. As paying off of your car, just gas, oil and preventive maintenance.
2022 is coming to a close now. I just picked up a RCBS turret press with a starter kit for under $500. I don't see prices getting better anytime soon. I have been shopping for components and the rest of the equipment I will need. Over the winter I will build a heavy reloading bench and hopefully be producing ammunition before spring gets here.
Jim, I think you made good call? I don't see it getting better anytime soon either. A few things might improve like availability of brass and bullet selection but the high prices are probably here to stay? And if another disruption happens the prices we're seeing now will be a real bargain.
I need a powder measure and a digital measure? Or either or? Thank u!!
Just 2020 I started metallic reloading for under 600 bucks including manual, dies, shell holders, trimmers, deburer, scale, caliper, cleaning. Now, the very basics that I bought would cost about 2 bills more. Since then I've added a few items, got into shotshells as well, have about 1k in equipment and tooling. And another thou or so in parts and materials. And you can now spend a couple hours at a wack making a hundred rounds.
Then there's just cleaning brass. When I started I would load empty deprimed brass into a clean peanut butter jar with a pound of steel pins, some dish detergent and some citric acid. Then I would shake it for a couple minutes, let it set and repeat for an hour. It started me cleaning brass for 16 bucks. My wife bought me a Franklin Arsenal wet tumbler as a gift. To dry the brass i threw it in a towel on top of the drier for a few cycles.
I also stepped up from the primer pocket reamer shown in this vid to the Lee swager. It cost more, but the time spent holding small items in arthritic hands was greatly decreased. Made that change after the first couple thousand rounds.
Bullet puller, in 3k rounds I've got 5 bullets I want to pull. That impact puller costs 15-30 bucks depending on where and when you buy it.
Lee has a brass trimming setup that attaches to a standard drill, is not hard to use
If you get started expect your first completed round to cost about a thousand bucks once you invest in equipment and materials.
Lots of good info there Phil. Thanks for sharing it. Hopefully it will give others some ideas as to different directions they can take and some different options out there.
I also have been handloading for 40 years. I have maybe wasted thousands of dollars on stuff that sounded good but did almost nothing. In my opinion.. Maybe $500 will get you everything you need for one caliber but each additional caliber will only be? $40 or so. If you want to cast bullets? whole other thing. I do it.. you want to shoot .357 mag or 44 mag or 45 acp for $4 a box of 50 we can talk about that.
I recommend de priming your brass before cleaning
Careful that secondhand stuff isn't just broken or faulty. I found the rcbs to be the most consistent.
I started in 1962 WAS that a Good Year to start Reloading? ha ha ha😊😅😃😆🤣 You know I got everything back then within a year or two. My Brass Tumler is Till working as it should. I Use Walnut and Pecan Hulls for my Brass. The only thing I have changed on it is the 0ld Rubber Jug, it started Cracking (Ol' Age, I Guess) I changed over to a 1 Gallon Pickle Jug (Glass Jug) for my Tumbling of Brass. I've got Several Rock Crusher's on my bench (like different stations). Bout all I load now is .40 Cal., 5.56, 6.5 Creedmoor,
I enjoyed your video Sir. And, You told it like it IS. Thanks Alot
I've enjoyed many a year at my 0l' Bench ignoring my 0l' Battle Axe🤣
The Lee system works great with a drill, way better than the hand crank trimmers
I started reloading a little over a year ago ( Sept.2021 ) . I bought a set-up from a seller for $ 1,400.00cdn. Now , I'm up to around $ 6,000.00cdn.
I started shooting in 77 bought a ruger 357 magnum within a month I bought a lee loader . skip a bunch of years bought a 9MM a 1911 and ammo was cheep Thought about my old lee loader . Bought a Rock chucker supreme kit . went to gun shows every month bought primers dies ,powder and some bullets ammo was still dirt cheep . saved my brass things got more expensive. Skip to 2005 . ammo crunch begins. So clear out a back room and set everything up . 2007 no ammo on the shelf at the stores I am sitting on 500 rounds of loaded ammo for each caliber all paid for back in the 90's Now 2022 have a turret press and the RCBS . Get in as soon as possible keep up on your supplies .
Thanks for sharing that Pete. That's a really good point.
Gunbroker always seems to have primers and you can usually get small pistol for about 100 per 1000
Do you have any experience with Lyman Turbo Sonic Ultrasonic Cleaners, you mentioned not wanting to wait for your clean brass to dry so this is another liquid process??? The advantage to this process is supposed to clean primer pockets and more hidden areas of shell casings!
I live in Canada, and ammo is more expensive here to begin with, but on top of that, my best rifle is a 270WSM, which drives the price up - and availability is terrible. Cabela's had two kinds of cartridges for 270WSM, that's it. They have plenty of 130 grain Winchester Deer Season XP for $100 a box, and they have a few boxes of Nosler's Trophy Grade 140 grain AB for $150 per box...... I already had 7 or 8 boxes of brass from Federal premium ammo that I bought and fired back in 08, and I just picked up a couple of boxes of the Deer Season to zero my rifle, because I knew it was way off, since I had removed and re-mounted the scope. I want to try the Nosler 150 grain AB & ABLR, and maybe even their 165 grain ABLR that's intended for the 6.8 western, but I can't do that unless I reload - and I want to try a box of Trophy grade, just to see... And I want to try some 145 grain Hornady ELD-X - but I can't find any catridges in Canada... The war in Ukraine is part of it, especially with powder right now - but anyway, Cabela's has a nice kit from Lyman for $1000. It has a tumbler, digital scale, 8 turret press, bullet puller, sizing tool, and more - and it is made in the USA, so I have faith in the quality. Considering what I just explained that I have to pay for cartridges, and the fact that I already have about 200 brass, and this is for hunting, and for shooting for fun, buying that kit, and the powder and bullets and primers will be cheaper than it would be just to buy 200 cartridges alone, and I can keep reusing the brass! It makes me want to buy something to anneal - partly because 270WSM ammo is more expensive, but anyway) - I love the videos, keep em comin! PS I also have a Lee Enfield 303 British (I may have mentioned that in the comments on another of your videos, but I can't remember...)