The whole top of my drain cracked off when I only started to try and take it out. I tried that second grip tool. No luck. Now Im going to use my reciprocating saw. Thank you! 🤞
I waited till the video was over till I commented, because I was going to say " what about...when it's been in there for 30 years, rusted and frozen, and there is no center cross bar's " but then you pulled out the saw zaw, 🤙🏼😉 well played Roger, well played 🤙🏼💯🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
they also make one that smashes down in and grabs the sides. It's like a broken bolt extractor it grabs the walls of it. It's the one he used at like 4:40 it'll get them out. Replace it and reinstall it.
I used a Dremel once, worked great. Cut the flange off and I had access in the unfinished basement to replace the old peice once it was free from the tub.
Dremel or die grinder is the way to go. Very easy to control compared to a Sawzall so you won't have collateral damage to the drain shoe or tub finish.
Well put together video.the information is spot on with the tools available for the average home owner The tricks for preparation installing and or removing the tub drain The only thing you really really should’ve added is so vital if not done no matter if you get the drain out and perfectly reinstalled it will definitely leak. Y’all ready for this It’s the gasket under the tub that goes sandwiched in between the the female part of the tub drain assemble and the tub
Well thanks for the help Roger I'm a home owner (manufactured home) and over the years and kids the crosses hand broke cus the drains had the screw on plugs broke the center section out 🙄 my wife and I thought we were screwed to any future upgrade to shower stall but I watched ur video and brought light back to the project thanks again
This video was as phenomenal as that handlebar mustache. I broke the crossbar on my drain. I was pulling out hair with a hair snake and I pulled too hard. Then again the cross bar was severely corroded. Thanks for the video
Roger!!! Claw HAMMER with a straight claw honorable mention my man!!! Some of the ding dongs I've worked with I wouldn't trust with a sawzall! I have also used a Dremel to cut notches out or the whole damn thing. Most of the drains I mess with have been set for almost 45 years. Always a nightmare to change one without crossmember!
A nice little tool is using a dremel with a special bit. Little bit safer to use in my opinion. I've had bad things happen when using the Sawzall to get the drain out. Awesome video Rodger 👍
I was gonna mention that. Those little cutting wheels are a bit more in control. Especially on a more tedious project like this. But hey if the saw zaw works…. Use it.
Ive had good success with running my torch into the drain but only on older all metal drains. You have to be careful not to discolor the tub . Just use just enough heat to break the corrosion.
I think older houses glued them in or something.. TYVM for this video!! I had to break mine out. I even bought the tool it just broke the brackets off.
I used the extractor, the one that you pounded in, and I used a ratchet w 1/2" drive, and the brass fitting broke off! The stoopid thing wouldn't come out w the extractor still in it. So I had to drill some holes around it (I'm replacing the bathtub stall). I also couldn't remove the handles for the hot and cold w a puller. So I had to drill holes around it. Fml
Have all those but Dremel or actually I prefer Milwaukee rotary tool with metal cutoff wheel fits perfectly into the shoe or you can pizza slice it if need be.
I have a drain where the cross bars are broken but there were only THREE, instead of four. So unfortunately I cant use the plier handle method. Or the fork or dumbbell. I guess I will have to break down and get one of the friction tools. I really don’t want to have to use a saws-all if i can help it, even though i feel like i can trust myself with it.
The silicon sealer that the builder used had mine too tight, I broke the cross bar and went the tap extraction method… I used plumbing putty to install back.
Tub drain war story. Started with the dumbbell, cross broke out. Went to the extractor. Did get it to bite strong enough to get it to start to rotate. Wasn't rotating what was supposed to. It was so stuck that it broke off at the joint and was turning the shoe. Got it out. Still had to cut in from a closet wall and replace the shoe. Fortunately, above the slab.
I love the advice and tool demonstration in this vid, but I gotta say, be very, VERY careful if you decide to do this on your own. Matter of fact, think twice before deciding to go at it. If the drain pipe is under tension and you pull the drain adapter out, you’re basically screwed (ESPECIALLY if you’re on a slab).
You're definitely screwed on a slab but not crawlspace. If anyone wants to buy a new home I suggest not going with a slab built house even if it's cheaper. If on a slab then it's time to bust out the concrete saw lol.
Question: Are you using Teflon tape and pipe dope on the threads of the drain because you are not replacing the shoe to tube gasket and want the "seal" to be at the threads along with plumbers putty under the drain flange and not the shoe gasket. Actually now that I think about it the threads don't seal the tub drain shoe to the drain, the putty does along with the gasket. I don't see how all of the Teflon tape and pipe dope keep the tub from leaking unless the drain stops up.
quick question: i used that tool and it worked great but the drain isn't coming up, its just spinning and not rising or unscrewing. any idea what i can do? thanks.
I came up with a new one recently. 1946 tub and original drain. Could not get it. I cut my dumb bell in half, got a 1 1/8 impact socket and went after it with my impact 🤣 Worked like a charm. I wouldn’t recommend this idea unless you’re replacing the whole tub drain. Got away with it this time though.
Ya I've used a 1/2 inch drive in my impact cuz the tub drain extractor that I use has a hole for it I've had to use some heat before that also worked but really carefully ....not going to use a 18 volt saws all on anyone's tub way to risky not going to take that chance of rattling around and than cast breaks
I have a problem. somehow.....there was a trap screwed onto my tub drain ...and..it has come apart and will not line up when I tried to connect it back,,,,also, I wonder if anywhere rents the tool (fork) because I can't see buying a tool I might use just one time.. and I don't want to saw it out, as I'd like to take it with me & find the correct pipe that would work & reuse the same drain.....does there NEED to be a trap from the tub drain to the main drain line??? Thanks for any advice( help )you can offer me.
I have ran across several this year that the drain was connected to a swivel adapter. You could turn and turn from the top and not get anywhere. You have to go from underneath and unscrew. Not sure why they are done this way. The tubs don't have over flows either. Any thoughts?
Oh Roger... these are very good vids. But I have run into one of these as a DIY'er that made me pull out hair (a luxury I am afforded, unlike your beautiful self). Homeowners beware. If you can't get it out with the first two tools.... GET A PLUMBER.
As a carpenter/housebuilder, I dread any plumber who uses a sawzall. Mostly for the massacre they can make of framing members. I do trust Mr. Wakefield to do that surgical work on the drain.
I understand where youre coming from but a plumber cant do their job without a sawzall/recip saw. Holesaws and selfeed bits can do irreparable framing damage too .
I've been Plumbing for 20 years and I have never in my life seen or heard of anybody using Teflon or dope on the threads for a tub drain or shower drain. That's just ludicrous to me for some reason.
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The whole top of my drain cracked off when I only started to try and take it out. I tried that second grip tool. No luck. Now Im going to use my reciprocating saw. Thank you! 🤞
Hopefully it works! Let me know
He’s showing you best case scenario’s with everything I’m a plumber in Queens and nothing ever goes that smoothly
For shure
I waited till the video was over till I commented, because I was going to say " what about...when it's been in there for 30 years, rusted and frozen, and there is no center cross bar's " but then you pulled out the saw zaw, 🤙🏼😉 well played Roger, well played 🤙🏼💯🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
That's when you replace all the waste n overflow
they also make one that smashes down in and grabs the sides. It's like a broken bolt extractor it grabs the walls of it. It's the one he used at like 4:40 it'll get them out. Replace it and reinstall it.
He didn't show the cuts. Bogus if you ask me.
Done did it with the seesaw. Glad I watched this video👍
I used a Dremel once, worked great. Cut the flange off and I had access in the unfinished basement to replace the old peice once it was free from the tub.
Dremel or die grinder is the way to go. Very easy to control compared to a Sawzall so you won't have collateral damage to the drain shoe or tub finish.
I'm going to try this.
Well put together video.the information is spot on with the tools available for the average home owner
The tricks for preparation installing and or removing the tub drain
The only thing you really really should’ve added is so vital if not done no matter if you get the drain out and perfectly reinstalled it will definitely leak.
Y’all ready for this It’s the gasket under the tub that goes sandwiched in between the the female part of the tub drain assemble and the tub
I tried all of them the only thing that worked was the reciprocating saw. I would not of tried that if I had not seen your video. Thank You. Mike
Well thanks for the help Roger I'm a home owner (manufactured home) and over the years and kids the crosses hand broke cus the drains had the screw on plugs broke the center section out 🙄 my wife and I thought we were screwed to any future upgrade to shower stall but I watched ur video and brought light back to the project thanks again
As a home owner I have used the handles on a pair of pliers to use as a fork and locked a vice grip on the jaws. Success 2 times.
This video was as phenomenal as that handlebar mustache. I broke the crossbar on my drain. I was pulling out hair with a hair snake and I pulled too hard. Then again the cross bar was severely corroded. Thanks for the video
Roger!!! Claw HAMMER with a straight claw honorable mention my man!!! Some of the ding dongs I've worked with I wouldn't trust with a sawzall! I have also used a Dremel to cut notches out or the whole damn thing. Most of the drains I mess with have been set for almost 45 years. Always a nightmare to change one without crossmember!
I've used the mini hack saw too, the small one for toilet bolts and shiii...stuff. 😉🤙🏼💯🇺🇲
I have a 1-1/2" Walton Co. pipe extractor and it works as well especially since its longer than the other extractor.
My tub drain shoe is all rusted. I have to use the last option to cut it out with zallsaw. Good video with all the possible options.
This channel is one of the most help home repairs channels for anything house related.
I greatly appreciate that PimpCoop
where was this video when i needed it earlier today lol it took me a hour and a half to take out the one at my job lol
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I use a multi-tool I find it give greater control and doesn't want to cut it deep in the the treads
thank you so much! I fixed my leaky bathtub following this video
Glad it helped!
I'm at the sawzall stage... Glad to see it's the way to do it.
Whats your opinion on silicon instead of putty?
Apprentice gave me that wtf face when the sawzall came out for a tub drain but he's now a believer, good stuff
I like the rigid tub and faucet tool the best
A nice little tool is using a dremel with a special bit. Little bit safer to use in my opinion. I've had bad things happen when using the Sawzall to get the drain out. Awesome video Rodger 👍
I was gonna mention that. Those little cutting wheels are a bit more in control. Especially on a more tedious project like this. But hey if the saw zaw works…. Use it.
Ive had good success with running my torch into the drain but only on older all metal drains.
You have to be careful not to discolor the tub . Just use just enough heat to break the corrosion.
Man you think I'm kidding I'm going to work for you, great trainer and boss and person all in general man I am coming.
Dude I'm an RV park manager and i love this channel for learning about plumbing cant get enough
From what I saw you did but I'll ask anyway. Did you chose to use the putty instead of the black o-ring that comes with the new drain kit?
Have to say, I'm of the Dremel route too. So much less frustrating.
I think older houses glued them in or something.. TYVM for this video!! I had to break mine out. I even bought the tool it just broke the brackets off.
Thank you Roger!
That Sawzall has saved me so many times lol. Grinders also
I used the extractor, the one that you pounded in, and I used a ratchet w 1/2" drive, and the brass fitting broke off! The stoopid thing wouldn't come out w the extractor still in it. So I had to drill some holes around it (I'm replacing the bathtub stall). I also couldn't remove the handles for the hot and cold w a puller. So I had to drill holes around it. Fml
Ox Baker's brother. Great video.
Have all those but Dremel or actually I prefer Milwaukee rotary tool with metal cutoff wheel fits perfectly into the shoe or you can pizza slice it if need be.
I have a drain where the cross bars are broken but there were only THREE, instead of four. So unfortunately I cant use the plier handle method. Or the fork or dumbbell. I guess I will have to break down and get one of the friction tools. I really don’t want to have to use a saws-all if i can help it, even though i feel like i can trust myself with it.
Lol that thumb nail 😂👌🏼
The silicon sealer that the builder used had mine too tight, I broke the cross bar and went the tap extraction method… I used plumbing putty to install back.
Very detailed. Thank you
You’re welcome, did you get the problem fixed?
Tub drain war story. Started with the dumbbell, cross broke out. Went to the extractor. Did get it to bite strong enough to get it to start to rotate. Wasn't rotating what was supposed to. It was so stuck that it broke off at the joint and was turning the shoe. Got it out. Still had to cut in from a closet wall and replace the shoe. Fortunately, above the slab.
So is the plumbers putty replacing the gasket that goes on top of drain?or is it seled in the putty couldnt tell from vid
If drain tool dont work i use my cordless dremel with metal bit. Works great
Good to know!
Great video sir
I love the advice and tool demonstration in this vid, but I gotta say, be very, VERY careful if you decide to do this on your own. Matter of fact, think twice before deciding to go at it. If the drain pipe is under tension and you pull the drain adapter out, you’re basically screwed (ESPECIALLY if you’re on a slab).
You're definitely screwed on a slab but not crawlspace. If anyone wants to buy a new home I suggest not going with a slab built house even if it's cheaper. If on a slab then it's time to bust out the concrete saw lol.
True veteran statement bubba the only way you that is it happened to you experience is the best teacher
What about the rubber gasket under the tub when positioning the drain into the tub?
Question: Are you using Teflon tape and pipe dope on the threads of the drain because you are not replacing the shoe to tube gasket and want the "seal" to be at the threads along with plumbers putty under the drain flange and not the shoe gasket. Actually now that I think about it the threads don't seal the tub drain shoe to the drain, the putty does along with the gasket. I don't see how all of the Teflon tape and pipe dope keep the tub from leaking unless the drain stops up.
Hammer drill with the extractor does it every time for me.
Where did you get last tool at I have not seen it before
quick question: i used that tool and it worked great but the drain isn't coming up, its just spinning and not rising or unscrewing. any idea what i can do? thanks.
I came up with a new one recently. 1946 tub and original drain. Could not get it. I cut my dumb bell in half, got a 1 1/8 impact socket and went after it with my impact 🤣 Worked like a charm. I wouldn’t recommend this idea unless you’re replacing the whole tub drain. Got away with it this time though.
Ya I've used a 1/2 inch drive in my impact cuz the tub drain extractor that I use has a hole for it I've had to use some heat before that also worked but really carefully ....not going to use a 18 volt saws all on anyone's tub way to risky not going to take that chance of rattling around and than cast breaks
Love your mustache
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Roger, nice timely tool tease. I needed this video bro and thank you from a weldor.
Couldn’t Using Tef tape on female pvc threads crack the fitting, Rog?
nice
I have a problem. somehow.....there was a trap screwed onto my tub drain ...and..it has come apart and will not line up when I tried to connect it back,,,,also, I wonder if anywhere rents the tool (fork) because I can't see buying a tool I might use just one time.. and I don't want to saw it out, as I'd like to take it with me & find the correct pipe that would work & reuse the same drain.....does there NEED to be a trap from the tub drain to the main drain line??? Thanks for any advice( help )you can offer me.
I have ran across several this year that the drain was connected to a swivel adapter. You could turn and turn from the top and not get anywhere. You have to go from underneath and unscrew. Not sure why they are done this way. The tubs don't have over flows either. Any thoughts?
No hammer and cold chisel? I’m leery of the sawzall for fear of cutting the shoe but I’m not a pro like you!
whats up with the new Twister tool you see on the counter at the plumbing house? gimmick?
Works pretty good actually same people that made the ferrule blaster.
@@brock8830 good to know thanks 👍🏻
Which one? The Tubtwista?
Oh Roger... these are very good vids. But I have run into one of these as a DIY'er that made me pull out hair (a luxury I am afforded, unlike your beautiful self). Homeowners beware. If you can't get it out with the first two tools.... GET A PLUMBER.
Put that extractor in the impact, brother!
Shouldn't you make sure it's not a tubular ptrap in the ceiling before you wrench on it?
What Sawzall is that
no baths here in brasil :(
Looks like the cameraman / video editor loves the bold head. He/she is pointing to bold head instead of the action that need to be shown.
At what part of the video?
As a carpenter/housebuilder, I dread any plumber who uses a sawzall. Mostly for the massacre they can make of framing members. I do trust Mr. Wakefield to do that surgical work on the drain.
I understand where youre coming from but a plumber cant do their job without a sawzall/recip saw. Holesaws and selfeed bits can do irreparable framing damage too .
You should fear us with a sawzall 😈
Hey man, not my fault. The floor joists are 6" deep and I only have a 5" holesaw so there's gonna be some springy sections on the floor
Homeowners.... Please don't resort to a sawzall if you don't use one every day. A sawzall will destroy your tub in seconds.
My wife told me to use the Sawzall from the beginning and I had to wait to get frustrated breaking the cross and search online to do it😂
Lmao kaddy corner
Mine was stuck so bad when I went to extract it, ot cracked the drain pipe...
oh no!!!😭 what tool did you use?
@@RogerWakefield the dumbell drain removal tool.
I almost always have to use my torch and muscle the hell out of a tub drain. (Provided the pipe is metal and not plastic)
Yeah… I used the extractor and it broke the drain and left the threads in the brass pipe. Let’s just say it didn’t go so well.
Same thing happened to me, and I had to pry out the threads with a flathead screwdriver and a hammer.
An incompetent plumber = pipe dope. Lol
keep your pipe dope with your wire nuts.
only if you could of posted this yesterday lol.
The other 5% = sledge hammer.
You need to start fishing
😂 because you can actually turn them tub drains by hand
To much talk.
I've been Plumbing for 20 years and I have never in my life seen or heard of anybody using Teflon or dope on the threads for a tub drain or shower drain. That's just ludicrous to me for some reason.