I think the fundamental mistake our society has made is the dependence on income from work, without any other alternative. Replacing all jobs with a robotic workforce shouldn't be a bad thing it should be(and IS) the next logical step, but how we gain material wealth is _only_ dependent in work we output. It's a fundamentally flawed system.
The video about Columbus is actually on a channel called Knowing Better, it's a pretty cool skeptical channel. Definitely will make you think twice about calling Columbus a twat in the future.
I must admit, as I am getting older, I don't watch as much of the Yogs as I used to, but the Triforce is one thing I love to listen to whilst driving. Always brightens up my journey :-)
For the integration of robotics into healthcare it is much more heavily regulated. In Canada, devices are rated class 1-4 with 4 beings the most severe regulations and oversight. Any medical device with closed loop decision making, eg does not require human input, is automatically considered a class 4 device.
Dude, seriously. We are decades away from having robots like in I, Robot or Elysium whom will do our jobs. Burger flipping is one thing but as simple as walking house to house delivering mail in a physical robot body with batteries and potential theft to then sell those robots for parts or recycling is ways away.
Wawaweewa didn't expect a pretty in depth discussion about our future robot overlords from you bozos. Top stuff thanks for your always quality content. Been watching you all respectively for nearly ten years, and I love this podcast and I love you three.
I've never understood people not being interested in art, music, videos, games, etc. just because the creator was a monster. Especially with video games. SGTMarkIV, the creator of Brutal Doom is apparently an absolute monster that goads people to off themselves, but Brutal Doom is fucking amazing, and one of my favorite GAMES. I guarantee you, if you were to destroy every piece of "art" made by a monster, there'd be almost nothing left to enjoy.
I think it's more about the fact that they don't want to financially support a creator that's a monster. I can listen to Michael Jackson music because he's fucking dead and obviously not getting any money. I won't buy a game from a monster because I know my money goes directly to him. That's me at least, and I suspect many other people think the same.
With music/film/TV you see and hear the person. I find it hard to watch listen to something with someone that is a monster. With a painting or a video game, there's a much bigger disconnect between the creator and the art.
To make the automation of work a positive is to right now lower the about of hours we work every week and keep a reasonable wage. It sounds crazy but if we want to automate everything and still keep an economy running with people buying shit and living their lives and keep corporate prosperity, you need to do it. And seriously, if people get time off for their family and their own interests and still keep a living wage, that can ONLY have good consequences inns community.
I work for Walmart. My store recently dropped 4 manned registers for 4 more self checkouts. We didn't lay anyone off, or fire anyone. We still schedule the same amount of people.
The thing is, even if robots replace people somewhere, there's going to need to be people to service the robots. They'll always need people in certain positions.
I think you're forgetting about a particular field of work in your discussion about robot workers. Construction is huge right now and they don't seem to be running out of jobs. Of course there will be better machines that aid the process. But we're always developing new projects that try new building methods or new materials. The needs in our built environment are ever-changing, and so is our taste in architecture styles and the construction technologies. I've just watched a documentary about the new underground train station in Stuttgart, which is basically a huge concrete pouring job. The huge freestanding curved pillars they're trying to make require an incredible level of care. All the rebars are bent and laid out by hand. The mixing and pouring of the concrete is a science that has a lot of variables and is not entirely predictable. I don't know how you would automate such a job. And maybe we're not using concrete anymore in a few decades because we run out of sand but I think the new technologies will have similar reasons why you need human workers. And that's just new buildings. We're going to always try and preserve the old or remodel something existing. Try making a robot that lays tile on an uneven surface and up the wall. Or does electrical installations.
The robot thing will mostly depend on how sentient or programmed the robots will be, a robot that is programmed to do 1 thing will not have an actual life, where as a robot that is fully sentient will want all the needs that humans also have.
I'd be same tbh. It's funny how a documentary with people who admit they'd lied about actually standing in court to defend MJ now suddenly should be believed when they do a new media piece without a single piece of actual evidence presented in the film, against a person who won his court case with ease because of lack of said evidence. I don't even like MJ but this is trial by media & then Pyrion says just after do some research before you judge Columbus?
This is probably gonna go unnoticed, but i'll throw it out there anyway! So my father used to work with managing people working in oil rigs across the world, due to the oil industry going to shit, he ended up taking a new job. he has been looking for other jobs in the meantime, one of the people who reached out to him was a company using machines to smell food in Dubai due to everything being important, and to check that the contents aren't poisoned. So there are machines inside the containers smelling food, and then a software engineer will read the program to determine weather the food is poisoned or not. Thats kinda fancy and surprising that we already have machines that uses the concept of smell :o
43:40 talking about the possibility of a future where robots are able of doing absolutely everything remind me of one of the type of civilization on stellaris, that are the servitors, in the description of that civ says that the main species grow accustomed to them robot servants an when the robots acquire intelligence they take control of the planet but they still take care of the species that created them, so i feel that is one possibility we as a species we're going.
sadly the computer system at Walmart fires you and not an actual manager. This shit is already affecting people's lives here in the U.S. and they don't give a damn if you have any mental or physical illness. I was hospitalized for a month and when I finally came back to work I got let go because even though I was on medical leave, I wasn't there to do my job and therefore I was considered to be useless to the company even though it was all because of a couple of shitty managers that caused multiple people to be on medical leave. I tried to take legal action and got absolutely nothing out of it.
As an English Literature student, I think what is fundamental, and often omitted, when talking about 'separating art from the artist' is the issue of 'context'. A song exists in a very different cultural context when compared to a book or a painting; a painting has more 'artistic distance' than a song in that while a painting just exists as an object in space, a song is inherently tied up in its artist. Furthermore on the issue of context re attitudes and beliefs, a 16th century artist will almost definitely have some problematic beliefs by modern standards, as would a 19th century and even an early to mid 20th century artist, but MJ is modern - He is not an ancient Greek pederast, but a late 20th to early 21st century pop star and celebrity, and most importantly, a child abuser and sexual predator. In conclusion, the author may be dead (Barthes), but the pop star is not, and so their art is inextricably linked with them as artists.
I think another problem with not associating an artist with their art is that often, you may not view them as being alive but if you view it literally, they are still alive. This proves to be a problem because enjoying their art gives them money and fuels their lifestyle which you may view as negative and you end up rewarding their kiddy fiddling ways. Same with woody Allen, love his movies but he's a fucking creepy boi
11:25 schools here in the US actually dont give students the day off for Columbus day any more. Once his morals were questioned, the holiday stopped getting acknowledged.
I get a kick out of the automation apocalypse. I just raise ducks. My ducks don’t see their incubator as mommy they have each other and me. People are important but people are also a parasite in paradise.
Watching this as I rewrite my novel for my editor, thinking about how stressful life is while trying to do this and work a minimal wage job in America.
To comment on the UBI, Universal Basic Income, there's been a lot of research and hypotheticals but not a lot of experimentation. I think there was a small experiment done in Sweden or Denmark where a city put it into practice, and while there were a lot of positives it wasn't as large as expected. The second note is that any UBI so far will not be enough money for people to survive off of. So the biggest example is the American presidential candidate wants to give $1,000 dollars a month to everybody, 12k a year. You can't live off of that, you will still have to find a job and work, but the thought process behind it is that it gives a safety net for new entrepreneurs, as well as a supplement for those who want to transition into jobs with higher skill levels and training, for example instead of being a machine operator, become an engineer/ electrician to maintain the machines. It's really interesting stuff, I've done a few papers on it for some college classes and I recommend people to just read into it.
the one you are talking about is the Finland experiment, all they did was give 2000 homeless people 600 dollars a month for like 2 years and their findings where reported as such "Results of Finland's basic income experiment: small employment effects, better perceived economic security and mental wellbeing. The basic income recipients were more satisfied with their lives and experienced less mental strain than the control group. They also had a more positive perception of their economic welfare"
If you are interested in "robot replacing our jobs" topic. Do some reading about 'resource based economy' its an interesting topic. Also I believe there are laws in place that disallows robots for social caring jobs, IE teachers or nurses etc.
For real, the doc was literally made by people that failed at suing the Michael Jackson Estate. Honestly he probably was a paedophile, but I can't believe how dense people are just believing a documentary and not even looking at the other side. There's literally like 17 years of FBI surveillance on MJ with no evidence. As soon as 2 guys with a grudge make a documentary on Netflix it hits the public and everyone blindly believes it.
@@JamesJSA The people in the documentary are the same ones who withdrew their accusations in the past and DEFENDED Micheal... They are doing it for money. Everyone who knew Micheal have been saying it's bullshit, and even a 10 YEAR FBI investigation turned up no evidence. Micheal had massive mental issues due to abuse growing up and could not grow up, he was like a child. I don't know if I believe a heavily one sided documentary. Also, it's disgusting to not even get his family in to give their say... He's a dead man who can't defend himself.
maybe in an ideal world where robots take care of all the menial jobs the only jobs people would have left to do would be to take care of each other emotionally or entertain each other
Robots can work 24/7 without breaks. They make fewer mistakes, can work faster and they only really cost power so they cost less. It will get to a point in the near future where people aren't needed in 90% of the workforce. If people are interested in this I think CGP Grey did a video on it. Edit: link to CGP Greys video ruclips.net/video/7Pq-S557XQU/видео.html
@@joelsweeney4024 'The communist revolution ... does away with labour.' 'The proletarians, if they are to fulfill themselves as individuals, ... must abolish labour.' 'It is not a matter of freeing labour but rather of abolishing it.' - Karl Marx
Lewis seems to have a much greater grasp of how insanely globalized the world is nowadays. In a future with serious hard automation, which is really likely, every corner of the globe will be affected, probably rural areas more so even.
Another thought, in Pyrion's world pretty much all small business would be incapable of existing. All small business will be largely incapable of automation on a large scale, and will inevitable be bought up by large corporations. After that the corporations will slowly grow in size and influence, as any competition is fundamentally impossible, until they just buy out the government and abolish the UBI. I feel like Pyrion doesn't realize how much power his world gives corporations by supporting mass automation.
Robots will need human over-site, for maintenance, to ensuring proper operating perimeters. Second, if all jobs are replaced by robots then no money is available to buy the products companies are producing. Paying people for no work will create a false economy where value will plummet, so its in the interests to use robots as an assistance to human work (see japanese manufacturing/management methods) rather than replace them outright. This pay worker, of which spend money to buy products which in turn creates more products and so on. Companies will shoot themselves in the foot eventually if all jobs are replaced by robots. Edit: Also robots can't innovate unless we create AI, then what purpose will robots have for us
Lewis' comment about the "90% of decided voiters in the US" is close in theory, but its quite a lot smaller of a percentage, only about 30% of the population is actually decided before the elections
I love how the production of the podcast has improved with the popularity but the content is still the same ol dad chat.
And Lewis
OdinTheGreat Sadly
@@NotHarpoGroucho I think before Lewis was good but he seems for distracted now like he has tons to do all the time and n o time to do em
the lads grinding for that 100th episode. still amazes me they've come this far. and i'm thankful for that
The robot discussion was really interesting. I think that Triforce is so great because it varies from farts and serious discussion.
If you thought it was interesting watch the non technologically ignorant one 'Joe Rogan Podcast, Andrew Yang'.
But their understanding of economics is abhorrent.
What a glorious podcast.
ALL HAIL THE MECHANICAL ARM!!!!!!
Really enjoyed it. Important topics and constructive debate
God something about Pyrion's talk about robots and humans really got to me. "People break down". I think he nailed it tbh.
56:01 - This was actually one of the best ones in my opinion.
I think the fundamental mistake our society has made is the dependence on income from work, without any other alternative. Replacing all jobs with a robotic workforce shouldn't be a bad thing it should be(and IS) the next logical step, but how we gain material wealth is _only_ dependent in work we output. It's a fundamentally flawed system.
I think P-Flax meant the RUclips channel 'Knowing better' when he was talking about Columbus. 'Smarter Every day' does science videos and stuff.
Hot damn, interesting discussion lads!
Yes! I was really intrigued with this episode alsoA
The video about Columbus is actually on a channel called Knowing Better, it's a pretty cool skeptical channel. Definitely will make you think twice about calling Columbus a twat in the future.
I must admit, as I am getting older, I don't watch as much of the Yogs as I used to, but the Triforce is one thing I love to listen to whilst driving. Always brightens up my journey :-)
30:50 - Lewis predicted the global pandemic
I love the “Lewis?...” and then Lewis’ blank face just blinks.
"Global pandemic" you say, Lulu?
I honestly enjoyed this episode SO much. Robotic future/ AI are among my favorite topics
as ol' sipsy said:"lets go to fucking space"
pyrion has good ideas, i 100% agree with what he said, nice to see it isnt just me that feels like that
This was one of the best episodes ever imo. I would vote Flax for mayor of Twickenham should the dawn of the AI age occur.
Almost hit that elusive hour mark.
30:50 OOF
Bahahahaha big ooof
Listen to 30:40 with hindsight lol
Flax is a fully automated luxury gay space communist and I for one fully support this. Long live the robotic communist revolution!
I for one welcome our robot overlords
Great episode boys. Really fun hearing you talk about these topics.
Y'all are spooking us simple folk who work at the box factory!
Listening to this while waiting for my division 2 to download. Great way to pass the time
The last few podcasts have been so amazing.
Someone should gather all the transcripts of triforce podcast episodes and feed it into an AI and just produce a bot podcast.
Where did that full minute of pure maths chat come from @23:15 XD
For the integration of robotics into healthcare it is much more heavily regulated.
In Canada, devices are rated class 1-4 with 4 beings the most severe regulations and oversight.
Any medical device with closed loop decision making, eg does not require human input, is automatically considered a class 4 device.
I mean, they say this was a weak episode but it's honestly so much better when it's not purely piss and farts, and they actually dive into a big topic
I worked for 2 years as a postman and I can tell you from experience, we're a long fucking way from a machine that could do that job.
Dude, seriously. We are decades away from having robots like in I, Robot or Elysium whom will do our jobs. Burger flipping is one thing but as simple as walking house to house delivering mail in a physical robot body with batteries and potential theft to then sell those robots for parts or recycling is ways away.
As a techpriest of the Cult Mechanicus I approve of this podcast.
Wawaweewa didn't expect a pretty in depth discussion about our future robot overlords from you bozos. Top stuff thanks for your always quality content. Been watching you all respectively for nearly ten years, and I love this podcast and I love you three.
I've never understood people not being interested in art, music, videos, games, etc. just because the creator was a monster. Especially with video games.
SGTMarkIV, the creator of Brutal Doom is apparently an absolute monster that goads people to off themselves, but Brutal Doom is fucking amazing, and one of my favorite GAMES.
I guarantee you, if you were to destroy every piece of "art" made by a monster, there'd be almost nothing left to enjoy.
no conscience gang
I think it's more about the fact that they don't want to financially support a creator that's a monster. I can listen to Michael Jackson music because he's fucking dead and obviously not getting any money. I won't buy a game from a monster because I know my money goes directly to him. That's me at least, and I suspect many other people think the same.
Yeah, Notch is a transphobe but that's not gonna stop me enjoying a bit of Minecraft
With music/film/TV you see and hear the person. I find it hard to watch listen to something with someone that is a monster. With a painting or a video game, there's a much bigger disconnect between the creator and the art.
@The Finisher so he's a transphobe is what you're saying
I absolutely love dystopia talk
To make the automation of work a positive is to right now lower the about of hours we work every week and keep a reasonable wage. It sounds crazy but if we want to automate everything and still keep an economy running with people buying shit and living their lives and keep corporate prosperity, you need to do it. And seriously, if people get time off for their family and their own interests and still keep a living wage, that can ONLY have good consequences inns community.
We also have to redistribute those wages from somewhere. Nationalize Jeff Bezos.
On this episode two dads and a Lebanese child discuss the plot of Detroit become human
I'm a simple man, I see a Triforce Podcast, and I hit like.
I work for Walmart. My store recently dropped 4 manned registers for 4 more self checkouts. We didn't lay anyone off, or fire anyone. We still schedule the same amount of people.
5 years later and AI is poised to replace alot of job markets and put alot of people out of a job is very sobering listen to this 5 years later
The thing is, even if robots replace people somewhere, there's going to need to be people to service the robots. They'll always need people in certain positions.
Exactly! Those self-checkouts at Wal-Mart are always breaking down. Cheap Chinese crap.
Sometimes I think sips is lost when lewis and pyrion start ranting XD
This episode was fantastic.
Intriguing topics. Loved the discussion lads! Keep it up
I think you're forgetting about a particular field of work in your discussion about robot workers. Construction is huge right now and they don't seem to be running out of jobs. Of course there will be better machines that aid the process. But we're always developing new projects that try new building methods or new materials. The needs in our built environment are ever-changing, and so is our taste in architecture styles and the construction technologies.
I've just watched a documentary about the new underground train station in Stuttgart, which is basically a huge concrete pouring job. The huge freestanding curved pillars they're trying to make require an incredible level of care. All the rebars are bent and laid out by hand. The mixing and pouring of the concrete is a science that has a lot of variables and is not entirely predictable. I don't know how you would automate such a job. And maybe we're not using concrete anymore in a few decades because we run out of sand but I think the new technologies will have similar reasons why you need human workers.
And that's just new buildings. We're going to always try and preserve the old or remodel something existing. Try making a robot that lays tile on an uneven surface and up the wall. Or does electrical installations.
This is by far my favorite eposode
Don't be hard on yourself. I loved this episode!
The robot thing will mostly depend on how sentient or programmed the robots will be, a robot that is programmed to do 1 thing will not have an actual life, where as a robot that is fully sentient will want all the needs that humans also have.
I’m not afraid to say it ... I am skeptical that MJ did it.
I'd be same tbh. It's funny how a documentary with people who admit they'd lied about actually standing in court to defend MJ now suddenly should be believed when they do a new media piece without a single piece of actual evidence presented in the film, against a person who won his court case with ease because of lack of said evidence.
I don't even like MJ but this is trial by media & then Pyrion says just after do some research before you judge Columbus?
S Dunne true about MJ and Columbus (not that they both even did nothing wrong), and I don’t even like MJ either
That's because he didn't.
It was all just accusations no one could prove anything it seems pretty unlikely that he was guilty
This is probably gonna go unnoticed, but i'll throw it out there anyway!
So my father used to work with managing people working in oil rigs across the world, due to the oil industry going to shit, he ended up taking a new job. he has been looking for other jobs in the meantime, one of the people who reached out to him was a company using machines to smell food in Dubai due to everything being important, and to check that the contents aren't poisoned. So there are machines inside the containers smelling food, and then a software engineer will read the program to determine weather the food is poisoned or not. Thats kinda fancy and surprising that we already have machines that uses the concept of smell :o
43:40 talking about the possibility of a future where robots are able of doing absolutely everything remind me of one of the type of civilization on stellaris, that are the servitors, in the description of that civ says that the main species grow accustomed to them robot servants an when the robots acquire intelligence they take control of the planet but they still take care of the species that created them, so i feel that is one possibility we as a species we're going.
I think Pflax has mistaken robot with humanoid automaton (such as hosts from Westworld), which isn’t really a thing and won’t be for decades to come.
I'm doing my fluid dynamics homework listening to this as Flax said fluid dynamics. lol
I never wanted to see a frying pan this much.
BRING ON THE MCDONALDS ROBOTS! Maybe they will get my order right...
Need a new Triforce podcast t shirt. One of the three talking triangle heads would be great 👌
Just so Sips is aware, "robot" surgery isn't actually "robot". It's more like "Stabilized joystick controls for the doctor".
Yeah, global pandemic... Be careful what you wish for, Lewis...
sadly the computer system at Walmart fires you and not an actual manager. This shit is already affecting people's lives here in the U.S. and they don't give a damn if you have any mental or physical illness. I was hospitalized for a month and when I finally came back to work I got let go because even though I was on medical leave, I wasn't there to do my job and therefore I was considered to be useless to the company even though it was all because of a couple of shitty managers that caused multiple people to be on medical leave. I tried to take legal action and got absolutely nothing out of it.
13:30 I was listening to that song before I started listening to this episode
The RUclipsr for the Columbus video is called Knowing Better and he gives a lot of informed content
I think Pyrion is talking about
In Defense of Columbus: An Exaggerated Evil
by Knowing Better
smarter every day is a physics channel mostly haha
ty friend, I wondered where I would find that video
Yeah, smarter everyday is mostly science - also an amazing channel tho - go check out the Prince Rupert drop video!
As an English Literature student, I think what is fundamental, and often omitted, when talking about 'separating art from the artist' is the issue of 'context'. A song exists in a very different cultural context when compared to a book or a painting; a painting has more 'artistic distance' than a song in that while a painting just exists as an object in space, a song is inherently tied up in its artist. Furthermore on the issue of context re attitudes and beliefs, a 16th century artist will almost definitely have some problematic beliefs by modern standards, as would a 19th century and even an early to mid 20th century artist, but MJ is modern - He is not an ancient Greek pederast, but a late 20th to early 21st century pop star and celebrity, and most importantly, a child abuser and sexual predator.
In conclusion, the author may be dead (Barthes), but the pop star is not, and so their art is inextricably linked with them as artists.
I think another problem with not associating an artist with their art is that often, you may not view them as being alive but if you view it literally, they are still alive. This proves to be a problem because enjoying their art gives them money and fuels their lifestyle which you may view as negative and you end up rewarding their kiddy fiddling ways. Same with woody Allen, love his movies but he's a fucking creepy boi
Couldn’t of said it better my self
@@komi-sanmustbeprotected5665 But you could have said that better.
and suddenly my day is amazing!
Don't forget to Patreon everyone, Terry needs feeding.
11:25 schools here in the US actually dont give students the day off for Columbus day any more. Once his morals were questioned, the holiday stopped getting acknowledged.
Must be regional. We still get it off where I'm from
My favourite dad's and my favourite Lebanese child
Posthumous trial by documentary/public opinion is a not a reliable way to judge someone. I don't want to live in a world that goes down that route.
I get a kick out of the automation apocalypse. I just raise ducks. My ducks don’t see their incubator as mommy they have each other and me. People are important but people are also a parasite in paradise.
30:47 Global Pandemic, hmm
you guys are talking crazy this week
FOCUS ON THE BAG. YANG GANG 2020
there is a universe of difference between not knowing someone and ignorance
love you all
Innocent until proven guilty. All this assumed guilt is getting crazy.
Especially when the man had already been found not guilty
holy crap lewis ... 0 breaths taken!
Very good talk guys, keep it up
Sadly our local boxoffice just went out of business last week.
Smarter Everyday! Love for the Alabamians!
Keep the streak going boys
Watching this as I rewrite my novel for my editor, thinking about how stressful life is while trying to do this and work a minimal wage job in America.
Ok dude
To comment on the UBI, Universal Basic Income, there's been a lot of research and hypotheticals but not a lot of experimentation. I think there was a small experiment done in Sweden or Denmark where a city put it into practice, and while there were a lot of positives it wasn't as large as expected. The second note is that any UBI so far will not be enough money for people to survive off of. So the biggest example is the American presidential candidate wants to give $1,000 dollars a month to everybody, 12k a year. You can't live off of that, you will still have to find a job and work, but the thought process behind it is that it gives a safety net for new entrepreneurs, as well as a supplement for those who want to transition into jobs with higher skill levels and training, for example instead of being a machine operator, become an engineer/ electrician to maintain the machines. It's really interesting stuff, I've done a few papers on it for some college classes and I recommend people to just read into it.
the one you are talking about is the Finland experiment, all they did was give 2000 homeless people 600 dollars a month for like 2 years
and their findings where reported as such "Results of Finland's basic income experiment: small employment effects, better perceived economic security and mental wellbeing. The basic income recipients were more satisfied with their lives and experienced less mental strain than the control group. They also had a more positive perception of their economic welfare"
The machines will take up the physical jobs and humanity will enter into the age of the “prosumer”
Great episode.
Lewis predicted Corona?
If you are interested in "robot replacing our jobs" topic. Do some reading about 'resource based economy' its an interesting topic. Also I believe there are laws in place that disallows robots for social caring jobs, IE teachers or nurses etc.
The thumbnail was hilarious
Yea after seeing h3 eat up the documentary i know my three favorite goobers would fall for its pitfalls too
MJ was a smooth criminal thats for sure
For real, the doc was literally made by people that failed at suing the Michael Jackson Estate. Honestly he probably was a paedophile, but I can't believe how dense people are just believing a documentary and not even looking at the other side. There's literally like 17 years of FBI surveillance on MJ with no evidence. As soon as 2 guys with a grudge make a documentary on Netflix it hits the public and everyone blindly believes it.
@@JamesJSA The people in the documentary are the same ones who withdrew their accusations in the past and DEFENDED Micheal...
They are doing it for money. Everyone who knew Micheal have been saying it's bullshit, and even a 10 YEAR FBI investigation turned up no evidence.
Micheal had massive mental issues due to abuse growing up and could not grow up, he was like a child. I don't know if I believe a heavily one sided documentary. Also, it's disgusting to not even get his family in to give their say... He's a dead man who can't defend himself.
just a few podcasts ago: Lewis falls for the root canal cancer conspiracy documentary.today: lewis falls for the MJ documentary.
drink a shot everytime lewis says "fuckin"
maybe in an ideal world where robots take care of all the menial jobs the only jobs people would have left to do would be to take care of each other emotionally or entertain each other
one of the best yet
Robots can work 24/7 without breaks. They make fewer mistakes, can work faster and they only really cost power so they cost less. It will get to a point in the near future where people aren't needed in 90% of the workforce.
If people are interested in this I think CGP Grey did a video on it.
Edit: link to CGP Greys video
ruclips.net/video/7Pq-S557XQU/видео.html
I got a 60 minute podcast as an ad for this podcast
I love how p-flax is just describing communism
While some communists are in favor of UBI, UBI is not synonymous with communism.
@@liamvertal1543 its more social-democratic
@@joelsweeney4024 'The communist revolution ... does away with labour.'
'The proletarians, if they are to fulfill themselves as individuals, ... must abolish labour.'
'It is not a matter of freeing labour but rather of abolishing it.'
- Karl Marx
holy shit i was just rewatching them and then homepaged and this was up sweet
Lewis seems to have a much greater grasp of how insanely globalized the world is nowadays. In a future with serious hard automation, which is really likely, every corner of the globe will be affected, probably rural areas more so even.
Another thought, in Pyrion's world pretty much all small business would be incapable of existing. All small business will be largely incapable of automation on a large scale, and will inevitable be bought up by large corporations. After that the corporations will slowly grow in size and influence, as any competition is fundamentally impossible, until they just buy out the government and abolish the UBI. I feel like Pyrion doesn't realize how much power his world gives corporations by supporting mass automation.
As a student studying robotics, this was funny af
Robots will need human over-site, for maintenance, to ensuring proper operating perimeters. Second, if all jobs are replaced by robots then no money is available to buy the products companies are producing. Paying people for no work will create a false economy where value will plummet, so its in the interests to use robots as an assistance to human work (see japanese manufacturing/management methods) rather than replace them outright. This pay worker, of which spend money to buy products which in turn creates more products and so on. Companies will shoot themselves in the foot eventually if all jobs are replaced by robots.
Edit: Also robots can't innovate unless we create AI, then what purpose will robots have for us
surprised to hear actual discussion that isn't dumb as hell
Lewis' comment about the "90% of decided voiters in the US" is close in theory, but its quite a lot smaller of a percentage, only about 30% of the population is actually decided before the elections