I’m so hyped for this to come out!!!! I do all my side jobs at home and I don’t like using my DA sander at night because my compressor kicks on every 3 minutes or so ( I have a small 26 gal compressor) I don’t want my neighbors to hate me so I try to stop work around 9. With these holy shit, my wife is gonna have some trouble pulling me out of the garage 😂
@@ErtsenPlayGames if someone is already in the M12 platform Bosch isn't cheaper in the long run. Also, I'm guessing you haven't put your hands on one of these so how can you say the Bosch is "better." Not to mention that is an extremely subjective term.
@@ErtsenPlayGamesthis sander received much higher praise from professional end users than any of the Bosch due to its vastly superior ergonomics and feature set…
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 i only use dewalt , metabo and Mafell (in case of "top" brands) But work mostly using knockoffs (adordable knockoff brand from EU) for 1/5 price of top brands but rly good quality and 5y warranty that repleace the tool for new if broken , wont work etc every single time in that 5y (but the tools last , have simillar specs as top brands and you can get them in grocery shops 😅) PS That Milwaukee 12da in eu will cost probably twice the price (probably ...not sure if more than 2x or if they will change the price to EU friendly around 1.5x+ (but not less) compared to price of bosch gex 12-125 (18-125 is better overall than 12-125 and cost only 15% more than 12-125) so Bosch wins there Battery price.... Milwaukee every single one cost around 2x more 18v ones cost in average 50-70% more (4ah milwaukee 84-90 vs bosch 53-57$) 12v ones cost 100% + more Todays price ... 130-155 for bosch 2x6ah + charger ,,,, milwaukee same set....between 240 and 295$ PS 2 I still prefer Parkside in eu Same quality cells inside And 8ah with bluetooth cost only 60-75$ from parkside + i use 3d printed adapters to any tool i want them ..... Where milwaukee 8ah right now is 160.50$ And guess what cells they have inside ..... Same as bosch or metabo or Hitachi or makita or dewalt etc ...they all use same cells , samsung 40t , i wont overpay for brand And last Then theres makita "mirka" corde...less (battery in belt) This thing is crazy (Still cost less than milwaukee 😆) But im sticking to new mirka clone and bosch (where i sand composite materials like kevlar , basalt , glass and carbon fibre (sometimes more) + Laquer/ gelcoat on top etc for 10+ years already (in thousands of parts) So i have "some" experience in case of sanding (wanna pro tip for orbital sanders? Everything else sucks after you try 3M Cubitron 710w and 310w and you learn how to use it properly (its ceramic so you need to push it best on something hard (steel plate etc) from time to time when it slow down to "resharpen" it ,then its like brand new (sry for my bad English)
Can easily 3d print a vacuum adapter once they come out and can get dimensions for it. Use petg, abs or nylon and would last a while and not warp with heat.
Hi Joel, great review on these sanders they do look like they would be a game changer for mobile or diy painters, when I first saw these on your other channel it got my attention instantly as they would be ideal for what I do. ATM I use the Mirka system with the 150mm Deros and Deos (flat bed) electric da which I love and the extraction out the back is superb which could be a deal breaker on the M12 with the side exit which looks like there wasn't a lot of thought put into the design and I think this will hurt sales🤔🙏👍John UK
@@wilfredgomez2632 They both work but if you wanted fine sanding I'd go with 3/32 for prepp/detail/Polish like he Said in the video.. if you're bodyman and sanding down boondo or anything rough or need the cutting power then go for 3/16,,, I go with 3/32 for my need, refinish job is all I do so I like my surface to be smooth different folks, different strokes 😂
@@wilfredgomez2632 for headlight I like to do quick 400 with hand wet sand from 600,800,2000,3000,5000 then Polish or just to be quick I just 800/1000 wet gridd,, masking around the headlight and spay clear and be over with,, cover the whole car with plastic so no overspray,, or take the headlight off and spray clear
These sanders will make a big difference in my small unit ie keep tripping over cords and your right they need the exstraction straight down , They're not for sale in the UK yet unfortunately.
I was using an electric Hitachi Da in the 90's, still got it and used it a few weeks ago, very powerful as I did a lot of truck cabs so used it all day
Being flat rate , this would help me be more efficient and crank out some more hours . My dream set up is to have Milwaukee rotary and DA 6” buffers , and the palm sanders . No more hose or cords and can just move freely wherever I want throughout the shop
If they put the vacuum attachment in the back then I'm definitely buying one. I've always used a 3/32 but I think im gonna try the 3/16 cause the 3/32 is kinda slow
Without a doubt the best tool in cordless sanders having the form factor of a Dynabrade is the Bosch GEX18V-5N. It cost 1/3 the price, is 18V and with a 4 A-hr battery lasts all day. It only comes in 5" and has a 3/32" orbit which for color sanding works perfectly. With cars getting smaller I find myself reaching for my 5" sanders more often than my 6".
Nope sorry, gonna have to strongly disagree. We benchmarked both the dynabrade and Bosch and our Milwaukee sander far exceeded them in ergonomics, overall feature set and user experience as validated by quite a few professional end users. This sander has multiple throws and you can change pads with a tool free changing mechanism which reduces time to change and therefore increases productivity. It is for BOTH the body tech and paint tech(thus the multiple throws) and as such, the pommel is designed to offer the best ergonomics for both those applications as their preferences do differ in how they handle it. You really won’t be able to appreciate the ergonomics and enhanced user experience without actually trying it for yourself!
It's $400 Canadian for a bare tool. Might get one of they go on sale. I have a lot of Milwaukee so I buy bare tools. I have a 3/8 and 5/16 orbit on my sanders. I go for speed.
Beware the smaller M12 batteries will get stuck in the tool. The smaller m12 fits really tight and it doesn’t have any grip when pulling them out of the sander. The reason why this happens is because Milwaukee adder rubber inserts inside the M12 housing to reduce vibration. I had to pry my smaller M12 battery out with a flat head. Overall it works perfectly, I only use the larger M12 battery because it has more surface to grip on when removing the battery. If this issue was addressed by Milwaukee it would be great.
Still bosch gex 18-125 and gex 12-125 in my opinion works way better ,is smaller , have more efficient mechanism , and almost perfect integrated dust collection YES INTEGRATED it have designed turbine to suck the dust and throw it into detachable dust bag , without need of a vacuum in 95% of the time (it works sooo good that some sanders with vacuum connected have worse dust collection than this bosch model (12 and 18v))
@@ErtsenPlayGames this sander received much better reviews from many professional end users than the Bosch models. The Bosch might be slightly smaller, but this sander is much more ergonomic and therefore causes less strain and fatigue on the wrist. It is also the ONLY sander that has a pommel designed to serve the needs of both body and paint techs. It also has integrated dust collection…. Form your opinion after actually trying one yourself ☺️☺️
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The fact that I can hear you while you're sanding is awesome. So much less noise.
I’m so hyped for this to come out!!!! I do all my side jobs at home and I don’t like using my DA sander at night because my compressor kicks on every 3 minutes or so ( I have a small 26 gal compressor) I don’t want my neighbors to hate me so I try to stop work around 9. With these holy shit, my wife is gonna have some trouble pulling me out of the garage 😂
Check Bosch GEX18-125 , its already some time on the market , works better than this and is cheaper
@@ErtsenPlayGames if someone is already in the M12 platform Bosch isn't cheaper in the long run. Also, I'm guessing you haven't put your hands on one of these so how can you say the Bosch is "better." Not to mention that is an extremely subjective term.
@@ErtsenPlayGamesthis sander received much higher praise from professional end users than any of the Bosch due to its vastly superior ergonomics and feature set…
@ErtsenPlayGames you work for Bosch lol
@@artoriasoftheabyss1575 i only use dewalt , metabo and Mafell (in case of "top" brands)
But work mostly using knockoffs (adordable knockoff brand from EU) for 1/5 price of top brands but rly good quality and 5y warranty that repleace the tool for new if broken , wont work etc every single time in that 5y (but the tools last , have simillar specs as top brands and you can get them in grocery shops 😅)
PS
That Milwaukee 12da in eu will cost probably twice the price (probably ...not sure if more than 2x or if they will change the price to EU friendly around 1.5x+ (but not less) compared to price of bosch gex 12-125 (18-125 is better overall than 12-125 and cost only 15% more than 12-125) so Bosch wins there
Battery price....
Milwaukee every single one cost around 2x more
18v ones cost in average 50-70% more (4ah milwaukee 84-90 vs bosch 53-57$)
12v ones cost 100% + more
Todays price ... 130-155 for bosch 2x6ah + charger ,,,, milwaukee same set....between 240 and 295$
PS 2
I still prefer Parkside in eu
Same quality cells inside
And 8ah with bluetooth cost only 60-75$ from parkside + i use 3d printed adapters to any tool i want them .....
Where milwaukee 8ah right now is 160.50$
And guess what cells they have inside ..... Same as bosch or metabo or Hitachi or makita or dewalt etc ...they all use same cells , samsung 40t , i wont overpay for brand
And last
Then theres makita "mirka" corde...less (battery in belt)
This thing is crazy
(Still cost less than milwaukee 😆)
But im sticking to new mirka clone and bosch (where i sand composite materials like kevlar , basalt , glass and carbon fibre (sometimes more)
+ Laquer/ gelcoat on top etc for 10+ years already (in thousands of parts)
So i have "some" experience in case of sanding (wanna pro tip for orbital sanders? Everything else sucks after you try 3M Cubitron 710w and 310w and you learn how to use it properly (its ceramic so you need to push it best on something hard (steel plate etc) from time to time when it slow down to "resharpen" it ,then its like brand new (sry for my bad English)
Can easily 3d print a vacuum adapter once they come out and can get dimensions for it. Use petg, abs or nylon and would last a while and not warp with heat.
I was thinking the same dang thing.
This is pretty amazing! Milwaukee stepping up their game.
Hi Joel, great review on these sanders they do look like they would be a game changer for mobile or diy painters, when I first saw these on your other channel it got my attention instantly as they would be ideal for what I do.
ATM I use the Mirka system with the 150mm Deros and Deos (flat bed) electric da which I love and the extraction out the back is superb which could be a deal breaker on the M12 with the side exit which looks like there wasn't a lot of thought put into the design and I think this will hurt sales🤔🙏👍John UK
Very Kool, nice that it comes with hook and loop and psa
Great video
We got one demo in the shop and guess what im te only one who's been using it for a week straight,, i love it lol
For headlight restoration using dry 400 grit which one recommend, 3/16 or 3/32? Ty
@@wilfredgomez2632 They both work but if you wanted fine sanding I'd go with 3/32 for prepp/detail/Polish like he Said in the video.. if you're bodyman and sanding down boondo or anything rough or need the cutting power then go for 3/16,,,
I go with 3/32 for my need, refinish job is all I do so I like my surface to be smooth
different folks, different strokes 😂
@@wilfredgomez2632 for headlight I like to do quick 400 with hand wet sand from 600,800,2000,3000,5000 then Polish or just to be quick I just 800/1000 wet gridd,, masking around the headlight and spay clear and be over with,, cover the whole car with plastic so no overspray,, or take the headlight off and spray clear
MINE JUST ARIVED IN THE MAIL YESTERDAY....!!!!
I paint cars with a proApollo turbine paint machine. It is next level andsave like 40% primer paint and clear. Almost no overspray
I’m hoping to snag one of those soon! I’ve heard they’re awesomeb
How would that machine be for a beginner in my garage?
is the vibration the same as the traditional air tools?
Please Let us know when you got that adapter! Which one would you recommend for headlight restoration, I start mostly with 400grit.
I want to use this for sanding wood. Can I do that?
No, definitely not - don't even think about it....wood! No.
@@okafka5446actually. I did some more looking into this. Milwaukee itself lists these products under woodworking. So you’re wrong
@@okafka5446Why not?
These sanders will make a big difference in my small unit ie keep tripping over cords and your right they need the exstraction straight down , They're not for sale in the UK yet unfortunately.
I was using an electric Hitachi Da in the 90's, still got it and used it a few weeks ago, very powerful as I did a lot of truck cabs so used it all day
Is this sander going to be useful for sanding headlights do you think?
By chance what interface pad do you use on your da
I wish they made the 3" diameter sander the same profile as the bigger ones you showed. The 3" is so tall!!
If we're a DIY'er and only do paint work once and while would it be better to get the 3/16 if we only could get one?
I’d definitely go 3/16 it can be used for literally anything. The 3/32 is really good for prep but 3/16 also works great!
Sounds like some 3D printing could come in handy to make a rear exit dust port.
Being flat rate , this would help me be more efficient and crank out some more hours .
My dream set up is to have Milwaukee rotary and DA 6” buffers , and the palm sanders . No more hose or cords and can just move freely wherever I want throughout the shop
Do you know if they will work with Milwaukee's dust extractor with the auto on/off function?
Will you be adding a vacuum to the Milwaukee for a demo?
I will when it becomes available! I posted a video on Instagram of the new vac setup they have that works excellent with this!
If they put the vacuum attachment in the back then I'm definitely buying one. I've always used a 3/32 but I think im gonna try the 3/16 cause the 3/32 is kinda slow
I'm sure someone can 3D print one if Milwaukee doesn't
quick question what kinda rig do you have that allows you to film like this? thank you
can i use it as a polisher? If i change the pad. Thanks.
Does the 6 inch pad from 3m work on these?
Can this be used for wood?
Yes but beware the smaller battery has less surface grip it’s really hard to remove. I had to pry the smaller M12 battery out with a flat head driver.
Where did you get these. The earliest ive seen is you can preorder them but not available towards end of November into the new year?
@@adamrusch7112 they are most likely from the pilot run and only given to a few for demo/ review purposes
Would it work for feather edging with say 80 grid or actually repairing bumpers, with 80/150 grit
@@KeepitTwisted_MX yes, it is designed for both body techs and paint techs
So it even last 30 mim?
Without a doubt the best tool in cordless sanders having the form factor of a Dynabrade is the Bosch GEX18V-5N. It cost 1/3 the price, is 18V and with a 4 A-hr battery lasts all day. It only comes in 5" and has a 3/32" orbit which for color sanding works perfectly. With cars getting smaller I find myself reaching for my 5" sanders more often than my 6".
Looks like it’s 12v
@@adamstone8537 No, the part number I provided is for the 18V version. They make it in both voltages.
@@satamanschmidt3428 is there a current palm da or you’re referring to the m18 palm random orbit sander?
@@satamanschmidt3428 oh oh you’re referring to the Bosch. All good. Thx. Thought you were saying there was an m18 da palm out already.
Nope sorry, gonna have to strongly disagree. We benchmarked both the dynabrade and Bosch and our Milwaukee sander far exceeded them in ergonomics, overall feature set and user experience as validated by quite a few professional end users.
This sander has multiple throws and you can change pads with a tool free changing mechanism which reduces time to change and therefore increases productivity. It is for BOTH the body tech and paint tech(thus the multiple throws) and as such, the pommel is designed to offer the best ergonomics for both those applications as their preferences do differ in how they handle it.
You really won’t be able to appreciate the ergonomics and enhanced user experience without actually trying it for yourself!
What are you hanging your DAs on? Is it magnetic?
Where did you get the sander holder?11:43
I 3d printed it. I have the print file linked in the description! Just click that linktree and scroll down!
@ thank you
You think it will work on wood
It's $400 Canadian for a bare tool. Might get one of they go on sale. I have a lot of Milwaukee so I buy bare tools.
I have a 3/8 and 5/16 orbit on my sanders. I go for speed.
Where can you find one of this
Home Depot or Milwaukee website
Let’s see some wood action!
5.0m sander is better for wet sanding clear coat paint with 3000 grit to get rid of deep scratches than the 2.5m
Beware the smaller M12 batteries will get stuck in the tool. The smaller m12 fits really tight and it doesn’t have any grip when pulling them out of the sander. The reason why this happens is because Milwaukee adder rubber inserts inside the M12 housing to reduce vibration. I had to pry my smaller M12 battery out with a flat head. Overall it works perfectly, I only use the larger M12 battery because it has more surface to grip on when removing the battery. If this issue was addressed by Milwaukee it would be great.
I’ve noticed over time it’s much easier to remove! Like anything it’ll get broken in! Still tight but not unmanageable!
@ yea I learn that you have to wiggle it out due to the tighter fit.
My son was screaming in the background so if you said the price I missed it but I love all their tools I’m sold 😂
299.00 pre order for bare tool on Acme’s site ( January delivery)
Amazon. I dont tool truck or newer unknown sites. I buy tools at physical stores or Amazon.
The tools runs much cooler when a vacuum is attached
Still bosch gex 18-125 and gex 12-125 in my opinion works way better ,is smaller , have more efficient mechanism , and almost perfect integrated dust collection YES INTEGRATED it have designed turbine to suck the dust and throw it into detachable dust bag , without need of a vacuum in 95% of the time (it works sooo good that some sanders with vacuum connected have worse dust collection than this bosch model (12 and 18v))
@@ErtsenPlayGames this sander received much better reviews from many professional end users than the Bosch models. The Bosch might be slightly smaller, but this sander is much more ergonomic and therefore causes less strain and fatigue on the wrist. It is also the ONLY sander that has a pommel designed to serve the needs of both body and paint techs. It also has integrated dust collection….
Form your opinion after actually trying one yourself ☺️☺️