The Philosophy of Serial Experiments Lain
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- An analysis of the philosophy embedded in the cult classic, Serial Experiments Lain. If you're interested in any of the topics I discussed, I implore you to research them. Thanks for watching, please comment what you think about Serial Experiments Lain and tell me what anime you want to see me cover next!
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Serial Experiments Lain and Ghost in the Shell drove me to pursue Computer Science. LOL. And I still work as a programmer. The argument of creating biology via a software still distorts my brain even today
are you me?
we are all on the same berserk boat, some even call it the thousand hiatus
wow I feel you😂 I know what you mean lol. I've haven't watched ghost in a shell though😊
Serial experiments lain and ghost in a shell remind me of real life nowadays. We all live online via phones and computers. Were already cyborgs and social media just a extension of our cyborgness.
@@goroakechi3593 Exactly what I had in mind. The laughing man incident is equivalent Enron and Anonymous in our present.
This anime just keeps getting more and more relevant as our technology progresses, its amazing to think that I could watch this series my whole lifetime and still gives me different viewpoint as my surrounding changes. Its too ahead of its time
For a while during COVID this could have almost literally been your life
This anime is even more confusing than the end of Neon Genesis Evangelion, which I understood actually ... but Lain takes a dive off the deep end. Though I love it for that reason.
i disagree, i felt like i could follow lain much more than evangelion
@@isislee919 same
Lain is certainly more abstract, but it's thesis is much more condensed and easily conveyed in language whereas Eva incorporates a scattered beautiful mess of themes and ideas. I have no didn't that decades from now they'll be used as case studies in philosophy and psychology respectively.
No doubt*
@@BirdUpFR No one knows that it
I always thought that Lain was socially awkward and shy but on the wired where you don't have to be physically present she let go of her inhibitions. Similar to how people with little to less social lives get addicted to games, facebook,..etc. also, in the end she spends so much time in there that she becomes an admin or something and hence erases all data about her.
i thought the same kind of thing
This show was definitely ahead of its time. Perhaps in Japan, this was more of an idea surrounding the hikikkomori in the late 90s, but now the internet has essentially changed the whole world.
u missed the mark completely lol
At the end of the series Lain ends her existence but not her reality. Something can be real without having an existence, like numbers or geometrical figures: they are real in the counsciousness of the people without being there, therefore they have a value. Lain is no longer there, but is still real, that's why she can talk to Alice in the last scene. "An object or an action acquires a value and, this way, they get real, because they take part, in one way or another, of a reality that trascends them" (My rough translation of an excerpt taken from "Myth of the Eternal Return", written by Mircea Eliade). I don't think Lain became a goddess because for a god to be (an omnipontent, omnipresent, omniscient, necessary and perfect Being, exactly like the abrahamic) needs necessarily to just be, but not to exist, because existence involves necessarily non-existence, and viceversa, therefore the existance of god becames unnecessary, contradicting the very concept of Itself; therefore, a god needs to trascend existance and non-existence, to just Be, because the being cannot not-be, and the not-being cannot be, paraphrasing Parmenides. To me the abrahamic God and the Parmenides's being have quite a similarity. Greek gods are just too humanized (referencing Xenophanes here) to be used as an example.
Limited by our very existence, we cannot perceive beings as themselves, because they trascend us, so had Lain became a goddess, Alice wouldn't be able to see her, possibly not even feel her. Demigoddess, that's possibly.
I liked the videos. Keep them coming!
Luis Emmanuel Luis Emmanuel hi, I would like to talk with you about what you have written in a more personal way, if it's possible please write to me
For some reason I can't send you a private message, or in a discussion page in your account, so it would have to be here.
Now, si hablas español qué mejor.
Luis Emmanuel Desconozco a detalle las corrientes filosóficas, entiendo que tu comentario parte una base Parmenica, cuando mencionas "limited by our very existence we cannot perceived beings as themselves, because they trascend us" ¿Qué pasa con nuestra parte del ser? ¿Es también no percibida por nosotros mismos desde esta corriente de pensamiento?
Alia Alamina En Parménides los sentidos engañan, y no se accede al ser a través de ellos, sino a través de la razón, porque ella trasciende a los sentidos así como el ser trasciende a la existencia. Exactamente lo mismo aplica para nuestra parte del ser: Es, pero no la podemos conocer por medio de los sentidos, sino por la razón. Daré un ejemplo que sale de mí: Los números, no existen pero son, y no los podemos percibir por los sentidos, sino por medio de la razón, o dicho de otra manera, los razonamos; traigo el ejemplo de los números porque son entes abstractos, como el ser. Así que, según lo que entendí de esta corriente de pensamiento (la eleática), nuestro ser tampoco es percibido.
La postura de que las esencias no pueden percibirse sería repetida por Husserl.
Luis Emmanuel Que interesante ¿Sabes de alguna ecuela actual de pensamiento que contemple los avances en neurobiología, computación y física que se han desarrollado hasta nuestros días? Por cierto muchas gracias por tomar el tiempo de responderme
---SPOILER ALERT----
The pain and sadness I feel for Lain is so unique to this show.
So lonely, so alienated, and so confused that she chose suicide of the most purest form, complete erasure of her existence from the minds of others.
There’s something so deeply terrifying and sad about this form of suicide. Suicide is typically used not to end ones existence, but if anything to FORCE others to remember them, empathize with them.
Lain existed alone if but for very brief moments in the show. Her entire story only exists within our minds. In that we are the only people, as individuals, to know what she went through.
Essentially, we are lain as well as we carry her first-hand memories.
I agree, the build up for lain finding love and then seeing it be killed off by not anyone but herself is unique. Makes me wish I never had seen the ps1 end cutscene.
A series I love that has a similar type of suicide that I'd recommend reading is Goodnight Punpun
@@altimanzify yo spoilers man. i'm reading that!
@@purplehaze2250 I mean I didn't reveal who it is at least
SPOILER ALERT NEXT TIME PLEASE WTF
What makes Lain so beautiful is how it bends the line between existential materialism and a theology of virtuality. Like the idea that God was not killed by the Enlightenment, but committed suicide voluntarily in order to be reborn in billions of disparate network nodes-- each stumbling into deeper connection by creative existential questioning... The ultimate modern Creation Myth, as it is recursively self-referential yet destructively self-questioning at the same time (outside of time)... I might be getting into the weeds here but hopefully that makes some sense. Anyway great video, definitely subscribed and I'll tell my friends as well.
That's actually a very cool perspective!
Very well said.
All good except "theology of virtuality" means absolutely nothing in any context.
made sense cause that's exactly what I did
Lain really is everywhere now.
Her and Motoko in the wire/net.
Honestly I'm just glad people are still talking about Lain.
Artistic Masterpiece
4:05-4:10 - "What isn't remembered, never happened. Memmory is merely a record. You just need to rewrite that record."
This may sound strange, but this kind of makes me think of Johan from Monster and makes me feel like, he could technically be an evil foil to Lain, idk. :p
His idea of being forgotten for whatever reason was killing everyone he knew of him and was considered to be the devil or the anti-christ, purposely dedicating his life to non-existence, or perhaps even corruption. :p
If a tree falls and there's no one around to hear it, it's probably on the record of some hipster band
the anime is about "enlightenment", the dissolution of ego, and the some of the experiences one might encounter and observe in the process.
Lain is a conscious being among mostly egos'. this can be identified through the artwork of the eyes and pupil differences.
I have convinced myself, this anime is a medium of spiritual awakening, much to same degree as one might find the works Alan Watts'.
Actually no, the anime defends the ego. Lain is constantly wondering what about her makes her herself, and what in existentialism that means is different from the "enlightenment" the fake god wanted for mankind. That's what lain wanted to avoid, the collective conscious of all beings forced together with no free will or individualism. The anime clearly defends our ego because it's what makes you, you. Without it you're not really anything but a subconscious blob.
What Lain has meant for me is true consciousness as well.
I’ve experienced “Ego Death” before from some hallucinogenic substances and the “clarity” and inner peace I felt afterwards mirrors my experience watching this show.
Thank you for your insight. The fact that the final episode is called “ego” I think proves your point as well.
I came to the same conclusion watching the show, I legit felt guided to watch it
I think that’s why I like this anime so much, I had similar experiences from an acid trip
Who's watching Lain in 2019?
Present day.
Present time!
Me!!
Me ✍🏾☝🏾
Actually here. Started it way back than but gave it another try now and it is really thought provoking.
finished it an hour ago
HAHAHAHA
"No matter where you go,
everyone is connected."
Life would be better off not being this way
I LOVE the use of mushishi soundtrack at 0:46
Lmao didnt even notice
This is probably the best Lain video explanation ever made.
In the normal universe, everything is interconnected. One could reasonably state that there is no moment when something isn't observed by a multitude of senses - be it those of living beings, or the clashing of molecules and waves with each other, creating a sort of 'universal sense' of existence.
Interestingly enough, if you go deep enough - down to sub-atomic particles, this vast 'universal sense' breaks down and ceases to be a constant. There are waves that only 'decide' what state they are in, once directly observed - the phenomenon at the base of quantum physics (that and some really wibbly-wobbly math).
This means that while at the macro-level, a tree will always make a sound, even if alone in the forest; at the sub-atomic scale, deep down inside even atoms, there is a world where it may make both sound and no sound at all, at the same time - until something observes it.
Given this epiphany about the fundamental nature of the Universe, Lain may be ultimately both correct and incorrect at the same time regarding her sophos.
Of further interest, is weather or not one can ever truly 'erase' information at all. Given enough tertiary information, we should be able to trace back anything that ever happened in the Universe, given how everything is interconnected and the ripples of an action - it's information - live on in perpetuity, as they cross time and space as no more then motes of dust, light, and radiation. The only thing that might be able to destroy information, is a black hole - and even then it might only just convert it through complex, but not fundamentally unknowable processes, into something else we are yet to understand.
What I'm getting at is that while Lain could be both right and wrong regarding her views on existence, she is most likely fundamentally wrong regarding her ability to erase information - the best she could do, is mask it for those unable to look deeper. And just like someone or something capable of piecing back her existence from the ripples she left behind - we can see her, and her journey. We remember her. Thus, Lain is, ultimately, still alive, even if she doesn't realize this herself.
I appreciate the dive into quantum physics here. And while black holes and their effect on information is still a mystery (without hawking radiation there wouldn't be a problem at all) your topic really sparks the question of what constitutes existence. I've always had a problem with memories of a people forming their existence simply because there's so much information about that person they don't have.
We remember her so she is alive. Would that entail all people and things that we don't remember are dead? Would that mean there is a countless amount of things unknowable truly dead. But in categorising these unknowns, do they become known? Alive? so nothing is truly dead?
Sorry to break it to you chaps, but double-slit wave interference has also been observed in atom clusters with nonzero mass. Which means even stuff on a macro scale is subject to the observer phenomenon - our universe is literally employing "LOD rendering" optimisation, lol
I love serial experiments lain because it accurately shows how addictive the internet is today
You should definitely do a video on texhnolyze.
It would be so good, i agree !!
True, that series is so messed up.
chupamiubre Yes! Texhnolyze has so much philosophy to unpack. I would also suggest Kaiba as well.
I have seen most of Kaiba, it was very interesting as well! Still need to finish it though.
man that show was a trip and a half
Lain managed to commit the perfect suicide that Johan from Monster desired. Except she regreted it in the end.
Hello dear Kath and subscribers, your voice is very charming and very clear explanation indeed. This explanation video is rather new and I like your approach so I'm typing my toughts while listening to "Serial Experiments Lain Soundtrack: 03 Inner Vision"
I am kind of a radical viewer who cant move on to another anime until I find out enough evidences on web to materialize open endings and close the wounds. So its my duty to share and sync ideas with others though I will be mostly touching to plot part:
* Earth's magnetic field is believed to be a perfect transition medium between internet and physical world.
* Eiri aims to merge internet and magnetic field of Earth(reality) into one with Protocol 7 but he needs an emulator.
* Eiri replicates KIDS project on a bigger scale but this time he avoids Hodgson's mistakes (or technical incompetence) and embodies "harnessed collective unconscious" traversing on Earth's magnetic field in an artificial human body, which becomes conscious and its own entity and that makes Lain an unawakened god at the beginning of the story.
* Lain is an intercommunal psychic experimental girl compiled and awakened by Protocol 7, bio-emerged/physical form/hivemind/Gaia/manifestation of accumulated memories which grows day by day.
* As part of awakening process she was needed to be in human form to acquire required skills and understanding to interconnect humans and realms. So Eiri gave Lain human thoughts by giving her human body and sent Lain to his colleague Yasuo's house
* Eiri commits suicide after embedding his consciousnes to Protocol 7 as he no longer needs his body but he still needs Lain to leave her body and expand into the Wired to complete the merger.
* As a result, Eiri and Knights scripted Evil Lain and altered memories and perception of Lain & humans around Lain (mostly Alice) to make Earth unbearably distorted place and force her to do as Eiri says.(Knights were able to break reality through Lain's memories) To make it worse they tried to blow up Lain's room but MiB had lured her away in time.
* Tachibana Laboratories provided Lain real life experience (family,school), MiB and hardware until she reaches a stage of maturity (where she gets rid of all Knights with the help of MiB.)
* After things get serious, Boss of Tachibana Laboratories reveals his true intention and disposes MiB off using Evil Lain (alter ego of Wired Lain which was scripted by Knights)
* Lain's guilt over the havoc caused by her interaction within the wired provokes her to take drastic - and irreversible - action.
* An exhausted Lain appears willing to sacrifice her own flesh and blood until Alice convinces her to take a stand against the digitalized deity and finishes Eiri off as soon as she realizes he is obsessive, greedy and inferior to her.
* In the end Lain sacrifices herself for her only friend Alice by removing all instances of her memory from World (but Yasuo??or was it God?? or people start to recognize her and Yasuo was the first??) by manipulating magnetic fields of Earth with her psionic powers. It eventually leads to sacrification of her physical body. Her "mind" is still alive online, but the body everyone had hallucinated about for over a decade just disappears.
* Wired Lain was everywhere scattered on the wired. She existed in the thoughts and memories of people. Finally Lain makes Wired Lain disappear and manages to exist as only one ego. She becomes goddess-like being that can alter memories and reality (and bend time up to an extent ??? which reminds me of Omega from Edge of tomorow.).
* After events are settled she even manages to take her only known non-aging deific physical form (just like Eiri did I guess??), she even meets grown-up Arisu (Or maybe it was all in Lain's isolated mind to cope with solitude ?? but in the end Lain is everywhere so both cases are the same ????)
Serial Experiments Lain and Digimon Tamers were both written by Chiaki J. Konaka. In Tamers, Digimon were artificial life programs that evolved within the Digital World, a parallel reality within Cyberspace.
They developed the ability to "bio-emerge," manifesting as physical beings by synthesizing artificial proteins - much like the way Lain's physical form was created using "artificial ribosomes"
and the way Eiri attempted to manifest physically in the climax. The barriers between reality and the Digital World seem to be eroding.
I think thats the beauty of anime that uses "perception = reality" mechanic.
Was Lain real or only real in memories... Therefore its hard to discuss whether Lain is physical or not at all because of how perception is defined in anime..
The creators of the show have explicitly said that any interpretation is welcome and is accepted as it is your own and that is how you perceived the transpired events.
But I think reality was indeed very real as we witnessed some other events through eyes of side characters and Lain is actually plastering herself onto reality.
When she interacts, she violates object-subject relation, reality is purposely subjective for Lain that makes her special.
Thats how she manages to manipulate physical objects like exploding eyepiece of Men in black..by accessing both object and subject which changes or rewrites reality. This is the part Im trying to understand actually.
My explanation is not flawless. There are some points missing but I think I tried...please correct me if I missed a point.
Most important of all, this was made in freakin 1998!.. (before Google and Matrix franchise even existed as an entity) and Im proud of it because I'm a 90s child.
Not to mention OST and Lain's cuteness made me forget all that humming noise!
I heard there has been a prequel or sequel named "Despera" in progress for a long time but SEL director Ryutaro Nakamura passed away in 2013 at the age of 58, and anime was put on indefinite hold until last year!
EDIT: Watched it 2nd time.. will make small changes soon..
Well Chiaki J Konaka & Yoshitobi ABe JUST said they're still trying to get it up and running like 3 weeks ago! Here's the tweet: twitter.com/yamaki_nyx/status/976433207607373825/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.animenewsnetwork.com%2Finterest%2F2018-03-21%2Fyoshitoshi-abe-despera-anime-project-isnt-dead%2F.129307
Your collection of all the plot elements is absolutely insane lmfao. Ima have to watch this anime again.
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You are beautiful!!
Nice
Now I just seem to understand 🎵
Lain for me is a manifestation of the people's Collective Unconscious, Lain is a manifestation of what they believed she is. In the beginning of the series we see lain as somewhat of an empty husk. But as lain learns more about the humans through the wired and such, she and her other selves somewhat developed and thoughts about the people that manifested her. On Layer 13 after lain having a time with Alice she has come to a conclusion that having a physical body is the true way to live. So as the God who has total control over the wired she rewrote everyone's memories to the way they were which also erases the people's memories of her she did this, because Lain loves us...
Really sad that Lain was brought upon to existence just to be forgotten...
sorry if I didn't worded this out too well, English isn't my first language...
God…I miss these videos, please come back :’(
Thank you for covering this anime, it truly deserves this coverage, and you did a great job breaking it down
I wonder why she doesn’t post anymore. Her videos are quite thought provoking.
I just adore this Channel. This video especially, as existentialism more or less saved my life, or rather Sartre did.
A couple of years ago I was really sick. My heart had a bpm at around 140-180, sometimes even as high as 200. This lowered my hearts effeciency to a minimal, which resulted in liquids building up in my body, about 12 liters. My metabolism was through the roof, so much that they eventually had to cut out the part which makes it. (Don't know what it's called in english, sorry.) I could barely walk 5 meters wothout losing my breath like I'd been runing for days. I had no energy and no will to live, I became suicidal to a small extent. I just sat in my hospital bed, staring into the wall. Crying when no one was around.
Then I read "existentialism is a humanism." By Sartre. I read it twice. I understood what was happening in my body was a situation I had little controle over, but by accepting this illness I was living in bad faith, and I could either fight this or die broken.
Sartre didn't save my life. Not literally. But he did save my mind, or what religious people would refer to as a soul. Had I not read his book that half a year of me getting exhausted by walking to the bathroom would have broken me in pieces.
And because of that I recommend that bloody book to every depressed, suicidal fool who will listen to me.
Thank you, I'm one of the fools, I will give it a try, I hope you are doing better
@@Stella.22g yes, thank you! I am doing so much better. I even started uni, and I'm on my 4th semester now as a 26 year old.
While I still subscribe to Sartre's philosophy, I have come to recognise its rigidity and have made my own mental short cuts and additions to it. However, it is still one of my favorite books ever, and a wonderful starting place to being an active agent in one's own battle against the bullshit of life, of which there is plenty. It's a rather unique view on existance which I cherish wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope it helps you as it did me.
Crossing my fingers for you.
And to think this director worked on Digimon Tamers...Amazing.
After some time, you bring about La Mettrie, saying in substance that the ego is independent of the body, in the way that we could replace parts of your body and you would still be yourself. You say this is the point of view the show presents. At least for me, it is the worldview of Eiri, and of Lain under his influence, but in the end, Lain realized through Alice how the body is important. Eiri is convinced that the body is a limitation for the evolution of the human mind, but then Lain finally asserts her existence when she realizes she has a body and without it she has no ego. Eiri can only respond by trying (and failing miserably) to materialize himself, showing his powerlessness as an immaterial entity and the collapse of his worldview. This is really where the show was headed to.
I mean, parts of your body are parts of you, as these change, you change too. Also, there have been examples of people who got transplants and experienced sensations that felt like they weren't theirs. The whole psyche is not strictly located in the brain, neurons are everywhere in our body, though in varying density. Also, associating the body with a biological machine could well be a truism, and as such, not helping at all deciphering the mysteries of life.
What an amazing channel. I feel like I just stumbled upon a hidden gem
I love this video you made. I'm a huge, and I mean a HUGE fan of SEL Lain, and I literally watch your video atleast once a week for the past year just about. Just know that someone out there cares for your content, and yes, The Wired and Real Life are interchangeable with one another.
I am glad i found the video and would love to see more. I am sad because it only has 7600 views but it is what it is. As for talking about Lain i don't think 9 minutes is ever gonna be enough, but you managed to do a pretty great 9 minute talking video nonetheless. I've taken Lain to the deepest part of my forever questioned existence and if everything fails me i will always have her.
I like that you like hearing what we think. I always was curious about Lain, but i never found the time to see it all. Thanks to your video, i know what to expect for. I love this type of videos, its like talking with a friend about your favourite shows, and truly learning something new. See you later, Space Cowboy!
The narration really gets my misophonia going, sounds like you had a mouthful of jelly while recording this
One of the best anime ever made. Good video!
*the best ever made
“I rather be remembered then to be some else memory.” Incognito Night
Goosebumps throughout the whole video. Great Explanation not gonna lie, I now had the chance to really grasp the idea behind Lain.
I think you should do an analysis of Ergo Proxy. It's my personal favorite, because of its heavy philosophical influence and subtext. "I think, therefore, you are."
I interpreted Vincent Law's first eye-opening as a symbolic gesture to show that because he left Romdeau, he was able to truly see the world and stop living the illusion he created for himself. All that stuff about being a model citizen was abandoned because he finally saw a glimpse of the wasteland of the real world. He could not return after having seen this truth, which reminds me of the Allegory of the Cave.
Oh yeah, and episode 20 Sacred Eye of the Void was excellent for being heavily inspired by Zhuangzi's Butterfly Dream Parable.
You're so amazing, I just love your breakdowns and ideas on anime, plus you got that voice that just soothes the soul!
Woah. Just came across this channel. Philosophy in anime is literally one of my favorite things to think about. Def got a new subscriber💪🏾
I literally just finished watching it and now the only going through my mind is “ what the fuck was that”
I’m going to dissolve into quantum probability waves now thank you very much.
Excellent....I'm in the middle of this series EP 7...Thanks for the insight. I just subscribed!
It has spoilers tho
Awesome vid! I love this sort of stuff. Rarely do people apply the kind of analysis that many works of anime truly deserve. The artform is just ripe with artistic potential which can be observed already in lots of existing works: Serial Experiments Lain, for one; the oeuvre of Hayao Miyazaki... etc. Again, it's so nice to see a video that capitalises on the artistic intentions of the production team. Likely, these philosophies were running through their minds while they were creating Lain.
I'm so happy I found your channel
if it wasn't for sel, i wouldn't be working in hi-tech, building all the stuff the show taught us.
Falling trees not making noise and non-existing vases... My head hurts.
I cannot see your head, therefore it does not exist, therefore it does not hurt. ;)
If I could use one word to describe the subject of "Lain" & "Boogiepop Phantom," I'd say they are about "memory." At the end of the story, Lain deletes stored information so that no one will know she ever existed. It was watching "Lain" that I realized that we value people for their memories (who they know, what they know, etc.), and that value is based our own memories of that other person.
I think Lain (the show) has to assume the mechanistic view of the person for it to make sense.
Otherwise, it's left completely unexplained how Chisa or Eiri can live in the Wired while being dead in the "real world."
You forgot alchemy! The material world is the lower part and the wired is the upper part, Lain being Hermete trismegistus. If you dig deeper you can see how accurate this reference is. Great video by the way :)
I have watched this series way too much, and I have yet to figure it out. It's my number two favorite anime series of all time, and I never realized so much form it until I found this video! It has me thinking I need to rewatch the series form a new mindset. thank you!!!
What is your top ten
"If I namedrop philosophers am I deep?"
No.
loved your video about lain! i just finished watching the series and you really break down the philosophy so clearly. also, hard for me to explain, but i noticed this idea of technology being a vehicle for something that has always existed, this ability for everyone's unconscious to be connected, and to give life to thoughts and to manipulate "reality". But Its like, humans need to create something tangible called technology to be able to understand the nature of this existence. its like lain got so much power by questioning reality, sparked by exploring technology, leading to her thoughts being so powerful that what she felt came true, like not existing in class or her avoidant family leaving her behind. i feel kinda optimistic after watching lain coz its almost like, theres no reason to question anything, we just need to know that we create our reality, without understanding why. embrace hope and love i guess. thanks lain!
Ｌｅｔ'ｓ Ａｌｌ Ｌｏｖｅ Ｌａｉｎ ！
Contrived Anime, you exist no matter if anyone else knows about you.
I like you, and appreciate your work.
Thank you!
@@AnimePhilosopher Hi. I loved your work on this video. Sorry to ask but could I get the name of the song used over the existentialism part of the vid. I'd really love it if you could.
@AlienatedNote yes please
@AlienatedNote the one at 6:28
i think sound is qualia, it's an experienced sensation evoked by the ear from the sense data: sound waves. so a tree falling makes sound waves which only make sound if there is someone receiving them.
Lain predicted the internet
Just finished watching the show , and out of all the crazy stuff that goes on , my favourite thing about it is the watercolored shadows.
Watching the anime really felt like a weird fever dream..
i grew up watching code lyoko and when i heard serial experiments lain was the inspiration for CL i just had to watch it
What did you think ?
@@JabamiLain ngl the middle was really slow. My main interest was the art style and aesthetic
This, this is amazing- the way you speak, the way you explain. flawless 🤌🏾
Texhnolyze is like this anime but set in a purgatory
This was one of the best videos i have ever watched in a very long while,thank you!I have subscribed.
I'm happy i discovered this video :D i think i'd like to learn more about philosophy it seems very interesting.
This video is good, but I think it misses a major point about the character of Lain: she's not actually a normal person at all. Unlike the people who die and transfer their consciousness to the wired, Lain's consciousness (allegedly) *precedes* the existence of her body. We are lead to believe "Lain of the Wired" is the original Lain, and that this person has existed for a long time (either as literal software, a manifestation of the Collective Unconscious, or something else). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but that line of questioning is one of the most interesting ones in my opinion.
I see Lain, I see philosophy, I subscribe.
This was one of the first anime I ever watched. Really cool 😊
Thanks for videos, its really nice conent to watch. First of all its wired with Philosophy so you can receive some interesting ideas and info . And another point is that you can rewatch this anime with new thought and even maybe create some adds for it. Looking forward to the next videos.
Loved that you added mushishi ost to your video...helps to set up my philosophical mind if that makes sense
Mushishi soundtrack in the background. Good choice
My head hurts so much uhh
While I dont remember too much of the story or what philosophy they tried to use. It would awesome to hear something about Wolf's Rain. Loved that show in Jr high. One of the first anime to make me cry. And just about everyone who watched it at my school all cried too. Wish I wasn't lazy right now or could remember the kids name. But man that hurt the heart. Loved this video!! Hope you find success with the RUclips algorithm. It can be a pain.
That beginning clip, I'm pretty sure, is a play on the Hegelian self-realization dialog and the mirror experience. PS I never heard someone considering Existentialism a bleak philosphy.
It's hard to imagine Sysiphus happy.
really liked this video. learned a lot and definitely found out about a new series i didnt know about ^^ well done
Not enough people know about this Anime, definitely one of my favorites.
“Sense organs”
My explanation of Serial Experiments Lain
Everyone's on meth.
acid
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Great video and great taste in anime. Expecting to see your thoughts on Evangelion. There's alot of Schopenhauer in it.
So this is The Matrix if it was a cartoon and more depressing?
I'm glad there are other people obsessed with this show. =)
I wish I could see this 3 years ago
i dont understand or i am stupid?
That was AMAZING!
Hi. I really like your Lain video, and there’s some ideas you bring up here I’d like to reference in a video I’m making this month. The video will follow a literature review format, wherein I plan to survey how multiple video essayists on YT have approached making meaning out of Lain. Please let me know if you don’t want me to quote you / your ideas (which may include audio/visual snippets from your video). Either way, thank you for adding to the conversation on Lain on YT!
I came to your channel, Just wonderful ! And analysis that I never think about this. Thanks
Thanks for making this video. I'm about to rewatch this series. Maybe I'll add my own thoughts on the philosophy afterward.
When you said " biological" it glitches like crazy , i thought it was intentional but when i rewind it , it's fine. That's freaky 😭😭😭
i just realised that we as the "viewers" of this video and you as the "creator" of this video are kinda the same concept the same way that serial experiments Lain was really about. I wanted to know more, so i dug deeper and found the knowledge i wanted to "hear", just like all others here, on the wired. (25 years ago this was made btw)
Anybody think we forget our dream the night before so we don't mix up realities between dreaming and this reality??
your videos heal me
I've seen Lain twice now and I like many of the ideas you present on the subject. I completely see where these ideas come from and you put fourth a really well built moral philosophy of the show. It's intresting to me how different the show can present it self to people. When I watched it I go more of a religious view out of it rather than an existentialism but it's clearly obvious that it is there. However I do think that you could make a argument for faith based thought from the show and while I am not nearly eloquent enough to put it into words it would be interesting to see what your thoughts are on the matter. Thanks for the wonderful video.
I always found the tree metaphor makes no sense, things are always happening in another country like life and death, just because you aren't around to be there from your country doesn't mean it didn't happen, and it's like if life existed somewhere else in the universe, though it might be hard to prove, it could still be there...
And heck, it probably makes a sound to the animals, doesn't have to be people or you in particular. :p Sound could technically mean only what you hear so there should be another word for it, but still... Saying something like "what we don't percieve doesn't exist" least of all it's proven to be in the material somewhere else seems absurd...
I don't know, maybe I'm overanalyzing, but this is an analysis video for Lain of all anime so what the hell. :p
Great Philosophical analysis of the series! one thing i'm wondering though wouldn't you say the works of Carl Jung work prominently into Serial Experiments Lain?
Is that the ost to mushi-shi in the beginning?
Sartre didn't preach, he argued
Let's All Love Lain.
Lain clearly tells the god wannabe that without a body you can never understand after she felt Arisus heart beat since she was scared. I think it's fair to say that the show disregards "brain in a vat" like thinking.
just taking notes for my term paper don't mind me
I loved the video, your voice is amazing, the whole philosophy is well translated into a easier way to understand, you're awesome, thanks for the video.
And, can you make a video about Akira or Berserk?
the idea of a computer convincing you its human........sounds like westworld. a very intertaining series.