@@tayloredrealtyteam7390why do people say stupid things like that? "He can't play in the NFL" says who? 😂 You guys act like you know what you're talking about give me a couple years and THEN talk
Yeah, Alex Smith was a pretty good athelete coming out of college. Sure, Utah ran a spread offense with Urban Meyer but Smith's 1,072 rushing yards and 15 rushing touchdowns vs 632 and 10 of McCarthy should tell you who was the better athelete. But I don't think he even said that J.J. was more talented, a worse athelete but he said he has a better arm in throw velocity is what he meant by that. The problem with J.J. is his reads and progression are not good despite playing in a pro style offense where he wasn't asked to throw a lot. Penix and even Bo Nix are leagues ahead of thim in this regard. If K.O.C. can coach him up then fine but he'll probably sit behind Darnold to start the season.
@obarbeito I feel the same way about Maye. My bad bro lol. I do think Maye is hit or miss. It's no in between for him. He can throw with the best of them but his decision making is erratic. We ain't have a franchise QB in forever.
You must be young because Alex was an incredible athlete coming out of Utah. I know he’s considered a game manager but he wasn’t the first overall pick for no reason. Go back and Watch Alex’s college tapes
Alex smith is not a comp. These guys are jokes. He’s closer to burrows the smith. He didn’t have to throw a lot in college but let him loose and he’ll light up the scoreboard. And has the frame to not get crippled the first hit he takes like Daniel’s will.
You don’t go from a pro style offense… to a pro style offense??? Running around?? Since when does KOCs offense involve “running around and figure it out” offense? If you thought he was good solely based on “it’s Michigan, he’s surrounded by talent” what do you think an actual NFL team around him will do… with a guy like Justin Jefferson.
@@themichaelbrandon what’s that argument? Christian Darrisaw and Bryan O’Neal are literally near the top of their respective positions. Two stud NFL wide receivers, michigans receiving core was ass. And Blake Corum was just a good rushing RB, he wasn’t catching passes out of the backfield or a good screen back.
I don't understand the hate on JJ. I watched a lot of games of his. He made plays when asked to. Came up big against Alabama when needed. This is a huge pick that all these guys are sleeping on. The people that matter have nothing but high praise. So I will trust that over pod cast guys.
As a Michigan fan his biggest drawbacks are his one speed throws, everything is 100mph. But he can work on that and with a qb guy like KOC, that’s an easy fix. His other one is his ability to throw the ball away in certain situations rather than try to extend the play and end up losing yards. Other than that, he’s a cerebral passer. He can fit the ball into tight windows and read defenses with precision. If he works on his touch and ball placement, and can throw it away once in a while, he’ll be fine.
Not to mention that unlike the other qb's, J.J. wasn't reading cards on the sideline. He read the defense, set the offense and called alot of plays, himself.
@@jamescooper3324I played baseball until I was 28… and damn did I always get this comment (compliment I guess?!) lol. I mostly played 3rd, CF & LF, and SS (unless the team I was on had a stud at SS already). When I was at the hot corner my pitchers hated me lol, like you said I could only throw the ball 100mph, if I didn’t throw full tilt I didn’t know where it was going to go… but at full tilt I could hit the mark from about anywhere in the field (I threw out a lot of base runners from the outfield until people just stopped running on me lol). Anyways when I was at 3rd the pitcher would have to get his out the way or hit the ground because I throw frozen ropes right through the mound, I couldn’t throw over the pitcher cause it would go over the first baseman’s head lol. Throwing low it would be right to 1st base’s glove or at worse case an easy long hop from the infield grass. But ya it was always funny seeing the “oh shit” look on my pitcher (out of the corner of my eye)!
Vikings got the best qb in the draft. May and Daniel’s are both busts. Williams will be fields version 2. Jj will win a Super Bowl before any of these other qb’s even get to the playoffs.
If JJ’s the best it’s because they’ll all be busts if that’s true. I think JJ can be a solid nfl qb but don’t see him having the ceiling of a top 5 guy
@@johnnycash8567 agreed. I thought way too many times Michigan was trying to take the ball out of his hands. But we’ll see because he’s going to be playing with some really good receivers
JJs a championship winner in HS and College, does that not matter? He's also younger than Penix who will be sitting behind Kirk for 2-4 years. Vikings will look like geniuses in 2-3 years.
Same was said about Trevor Lawrence. Look at college championship QBs - only Burrow recently is where it has translated. Mahomes, Allen, Lamar were not in those categories, yet they're among best QBs in league, college/HS 'winning' doesn't necessarily translate to NFL, usually because QBs get to play on teams with talent discrepancies at those levels much of the time.
I know my Patriots will regret not drafting JJ McCarthy. I already hear the excuses for when JJ starts winning in the NFL. This 2 are sounding like haters or people who don't know talent... they are blind.
I hate to say this but any QB going to NE right now will be a bust, even if they had gotten Caleb, he would bust there, because they have no other talent and are being run very poorly at the moment.
These guys dont follow college like that and get the info from Joel Klatt who is family friends with Mays family and has been pushing him on the media for 2yrs now and NC sucked they last 2 seasons.
JJ can only generate a lot of velocity when he sets steps into a throws where Maye can just launch the ball from any point and doesn’t need to be set. I get you are excited about JJ but really you guys got this year’s qb who got the Mitch Trubisky treatment where throughout the season he was widely seen as a second or third round pick to all of sudden get’s shot up high in the first round during draft time.
Colin I’ve been a fan for 15 years or more but you are so wrong on JJ 😂. Are you going to dog him like you did Jordan Love constantly only to kiss his ass after 1 good year 😂. I hope you pay JJ the same respect when he flourishes 〽️
What I heard. JJ Mac ace the play board test. Played in the NFL system and had one of the fewest interceptions. Youngest QB in the draft. He does need to sit for a year. He will be good when he does play.
i had a strong gut feeling about a week before the draft that penix was going to ATL but i think them picking him with his age and kirks's contract is going to be very interesting
The comparisons between JJ and Penix are funny because he is 3 full years younger than him. They're debatably comparable right now and JJ only has room to grow while penix still has some time to grow but is also plagued by injuries that will inevitably slow him down
JJ is slightly less athletic than caleb if not the same. JJ would have destroyed the no D pac 12 back yard football they play. These guys dont watch college footba like that 😂😂😂 look what happend to Penix in that natty against a real D, not to mention if JJ had Them WSH WRs. Man Colin smootched his way to the top... Media is a joke especially with sports
ive been saying the sane about JJ when it comes to the WR's he had vs penix and jayden and the fact that JJ beat bama in a must score 4th Q situation or they lose so they won the NC in part because of that 4thQ drive by JJ ,aslo that fact he came from a m more pro style OFF is a good thing
Cowherd is so full of hot air . First he says McCarthy is hopelessly overrated. And then when he's drafted by the Vikings, "Oh - any quarterback can do well there"
So the Jets called the Vikes and said "Aaron Rodgers wants us to draft Mark Twain, which we aren't comfortable doing. Please just furrow your brow, we can just switch picks and we can get back to damage control for our mistake."
Switch thr QBs in college??? JJ would be licking his chops to throw to Adunze, Polk and McMillan and to have a wide open offense. How many times did JJ break contain and make a play on the run to save a drive? Penix coild never. Imagine stiff Penix trying to throw to UMs receiving core. It wouldnt look thr same and he's probably be mad that his team ran that much. I move Penix but love JJ more.
I love how they omit that Michael Penix tore up his ACL twice in the same knee and a whole bunch of other injuries. My God these talking heads don’t know anything they’ve been literally wrong about the whole draft all the way up until now and they still spouting bullshit there there’s a reason these guys aren’t GM.
2 weeks ago cowterd said McCarthy wasn’t going to do jack squat in the NFL. It’s easy to look up. He changes his tune all the time. He’s a skip bayless wanna be who cannot be taken seriously.
Yeah right…Cowherd is a real football expert…NOT! He just flaps his yap and says whatever pops into his head! Tomorrow he will have a 180 degree different opinion and completely forget what he had previously said! Remember this Russ comments?!?!
JJ is overrated......Unless they are going to play a run oriented offense. He is not a pure passer. He is an opportunistic QB that relies on play action. Yes he is a winner and big play guy but if you are going to rely on him to put up big numbers passing your are wrong
Did he say the Lions were a powerhouse?😂😂😂 one good season and everybody’s butt gets wet damn let them do it for two or three seasons and see because me personally I think they’re going to be the same old Detroit Lions this year. I’m won’t even make the playoffs.
JJ can't throw deep, he throws behind his receivers and gets flustered if his first read isn't open. This will be the biggest bust of this years draft!
Have u actually seen him play? U sound like a clown or a hater... u do know he was the best QB under pressure, 3rd downs, rpo's and made all the plays he needed to make to win? Right? U do know that? Right?
People are going to be shocked what Sam Darnold does in Minnesota.
best team hes been on what has any other qb done on the 2 teams hes been on after he left
Lose games?
Let JJ start earlier?
If Darnold can't succeed with JJ, JA, Hockinson... and Jones.... Shit...
Right lol@@vegasranger
The Purple killed it in this first round.
JJ is going to shock some people, he has so many weapons now he's going to keep stacking wins from highschool, to college, to the NFL
JJ is more ready than Maye
JJ can’t play in the NfL 🤦
Yeah but maye is going to sit
@@johnnycash8567 so will JJ
@@tayloredrealtyteam7390why do people say stupid things like that? "He can't play in the NFL" says who? 😂 You guys act like you know what you're talking about give me a couple years and THEN talk
@@tayloredrealtyteam7390 don’t know about that. Vikings have a win now roster and JJ played in a pro style offense in college
Jj is a worse athlete than Alex smith?! Jj runs a 4.5 and killed it at the combine with the agility drills…
I think JJ is faster but Alex Smith was fast in his younger years. Idk, idc.... I'm happy we got JJ lol
@@gifi11as a Pats fan, I envy u for having JJ. We will regret drafting Maye, but I do hope I'm wrong...
Yeah, Alex Smith was a pretty good athelete coming out of college. Sure, Utah ran a spread offense with Urban Meyer but Smith's 1,072 rushing yards and 15 rushing touchdowns vs 632 and 10 of McCarthy should tell you who was the better athelete. But I don't think he even said that J.J. was more talented, a worse athelete but he said he has a better arm in throw velocity is what he meant by that. The problem with J.J. is his reads and progression are not good despite playing in a pro style offense where he wasn't asked to throw a lot. Penix and even Bo Nix are leagues ahead of thim in this regard. If K.O.C. can coach him up then fine but he'll probably sit behind Darnold to start the season.
@obarbeito I feel the same way about Maye. My bad bro lol. I do think Maye is hit or miss. It's no in between for him. He can throw with the best of them but his decision making is erratic. We ain't have a franchise QB in forever.
You must be young because Alex was an incredible athlete coming out of Utah. I know he’s considered a game manager but he wasn’t the first overall pick for no reason. Go back and Watch Alex’s college tapes
The Vikings(Kwesi Adofo-Mensah) absolutely killed round 1 of this draft!
Alex smith is not a comp. These guys are jokes. He’s closer to burrows the smith. He didn’t have to throw a lot in college but let him loose and he’ll light up the scoreboard. And has the frame to not get crippled the first hit he takes like Daniel’s will.
Lmao he's no Burrow gtfo 😂
“Burrows”
Alex Smith was really good
@@Jiff321 Yeah, too bad he had shit coaches early in his career til Harbaugh got there.
You don’t go from a pro style offense… to a pro style offense??? Running around?? Since when does KOCs offense involve “running around and figure it out” offense? If you thought he was good solely based on “it’s Michigan, he’s surrounded by talent” what do you think an actual NFL team around him will do… with a guy like Justin Jefferson.
They are making excuses for when JJ has a better career than the other guys...
You could make a legit argument that JJ at Minnesota will be a step back from what he had a Michigan for the past 3 years.
@@themichaelbrandon what’s that argument? Christian Darrisaw and Bryan O’Neal are literally near the top of their respective positions. Two stud NFL wide receivers, michigans receiving core was ass. And Blake Corum was just a good rushing RB, he wasn’t catching passes out of the backfield or a good screen back.
@@themichaelbrandon That would be an idiotic argument and a non comparison. The NFL isn't the BIG 10 or college football.
I don't understand the hate on JJ. I watched a lot of games of his. He made plays when asked to. Came up big against Alabama when needed. This is a huge pick that all these guys are sleeping on. The people that matter have nothing but high praise. So I will trust that over pod cast guys.
As a Michigan fan his biggest drawbacks are his one speed throws, everything is 100mph. But he can work on that and with a qb guy like KOC, that’s an easy fix. His other one is his ability to throw the ball away in certain situations rather than try to extend the play and end up losing yards. Other than that, he’s a cerebral passer. He can fit the ball into tight windows and read defenses with precision. If he works on his touch and ball placement, and can throw it away once in a while, he’ll be fine.
Won a Highschool championship as a Sophomore. Went 27-1 at Michigan with a national championship......the dude wins
Not to mention that unlike the other qb's, J.J. wasn't reading cards on the sideline. He read the defense, set the offense and called alot of plays, himself.
@@jamescooper3324I played baseball until I was 28… and damn did I always get this comment (compliment I guess?!) lol. I mostly played 3rd, CF & LF, and SS (unless the team I was on had a stud at SS already).
When I was at the hot corner my pitchers hated me lol, like you said I could only throw the ball 100mph, if I didn’t throw full tilt I didn’t know where it was going to go… but at full tilt I could hit the mark from about anywhere in the field (I threw out a lot of base runners from the outfield until people just stopped running on me lol).
Anyways when I was at 3rd the pitcher would have to get his out the way or hit the ground because I throw frozen ropes right through the mound, I couldn’t throw over the pitcher cause it would go over the first baseman’s head lol. Throwing low it would be right to 1st base’s glove or at worse case an easy long hop from the infield grass. But ya it was always funny seeing the “oh shit” look on my pitcher (out of the corner of my eye)!
Vikings got the best qb in the draft. May and Daniel’s are both busts. Williams will be fields version 2. Jj will win a Super Bowl before any of these other qb’s even get to the playoffs.
lol, you go think that. As a Bears fan I would have been more worried if the Vikings got Maye.
You smoking! JJ is a average QB, Michigan just had a stack team, he nothing but game manger lol
@@jmoney6244like how can you say that? Please make it make sense
If JJ’s the best it’s because they’ll all be busts if that’s true. I think JJ can be a solid nfl qb but don’t see him having the ceiling of a top 5 guy
@@johnnycash8567 agreed. I thought way too many times Michigan was trying to take the ball out of his hands. But we’ll see because he’s going to be playing with some really good receivers
Dude just turned 21 hes going to be a stud
I’m really happy that the Vikings got JJ McCarthy. I think he’s going to be awesome
JJs a championship winner in HS and College, does that not matter? He's also younger than Penix who will be sitting behind Kirk for 2-4 years. Vikings will look like geniuses in 2-3 years.
Same was said about Trevor Lawrence. Look at college championship QBs - only Burrow recently is where it has translated.
Mahomes, Allen, Lamar were not in those categories, yet they're among best QBs in league, college/HS 'winning' doesn't necessarily translate to NFL, usually because QBs get to play on teams with talent discrepancies at those levels much of the time.
@@legitdragon6202 Trev has been good when healthy
I know my Patriots will regret not drafting JJ McCarthy. I already hear the excuses for when JJ starts winning in the NFL. This 2 are sounding like haters or people who don't know talent... they are blind.
I hate to say this but any QB going to NE right now will be a bust, even if they had gotten Caleb, he would bust there, because they have no other talent and are being run very poorly at the moment.
Are we watching the same guys? JJ's arm is arguably better than Maye. Better mobility. Better throwing motion. I don't get it. JJ>Maye
These guys dont follow college like that and get the info from Joel Klatt who is family friends with Mays family and has been pushing him on the media for 2yrs now and NC sucked they last 2 seasons.
JJ can only generate a lot of velocity when he sets steps into a throws where Maye can just launch the ball from any point and doesn’t need to be set. I get you are excited about JJ but really you guys got this year’s qb who got the Mitch Trubisky treatment where throughout the season he was widely seen as a second or third round pick to all of sudden get’s shot up high in the first round during draft time.
@@brianjasnica3530congrats. You are wrong 3 times
@@themichaelbrandonExaaaaactlyyyy!!
@@brianjasnica3530 best PFF rating when throwing on the run of any QB in the draft 🤷
Great QB room here in MN
The crazy thing about these conversations is their points are all based on a small sample size.
Colin I’ve been a fan for 15 years or more but you are so wrong on JJ 😂. Are you going to dog him like you did Jordan Love constantly only to kiss his ass after 1 good year 😂. I hope you pay JJ the same respect when he flourishes 〽️
What I heard. JJ Mac ace the play board test. Played in the NFL system and had one of the fewest interceptions. Youngest QB in the draft. He does need to sit for a year. He will be good when he does play.
So,Colin doesn’t rate McCarthy but,thinks he’ll succeed??
Talk about a hypocrite!!!!🏈🏈🏈
The Penix pick was a surprise.... Shocker really....
i had a strong gut feeling about a week before the draft that penix was going to ATL but i think them picking him with his age and kirks's contract is going to be very interesting
The comparisons between JJ and Penix are funny because he is 3 full years younger than him. They're debatably comparable right now and JJ only has room to grow while penix still has some time to grow but is also plagued by injuries that will inevitably slow him down
JJ is slightly less athletic than caleb if not the same. JJ would have destroyed the no D pac 12 back yard football they play. These guys dont watch college footba like that 😂😂😂 look what happend to Penix in that natty against a real D, not to mention if JJ had Them WSH WRs. Man Colin smootched his way to the top... Media is a joke especially with sports
ive been saying the sane about JJ when it comes to the WR's he had vs penix and jayden and the fact that JJ beat bama in a must score 4th Q situation or they lose so they won the NC in part because of that 4thQ drive by JJ ,aslo that fact he came from a m more pro style OFF is a good thing
You are full of crap. JJ McCarthy will win the Super Bowl for Vikings in 2025
Who comes from a more pro ready offense than JJ. McCarthy??? No props for what he did to Saban's defense.
Thank you Atlanta. We got our QB and we will get their 1st round pick for Kirk Causin.
Everyone save this take …Colin will tell us in 7 months how he hated the pic !
He literally said yesterday he wasn't 'high on McCarthy' 😂
You guys are insane
JJ MCARTHY IS GOING 2 B ANOTHER GREAT QUARTERBACK LIKE TOM BRADY 👍
Middlekauf is inept in his analysis. It's evident why he's a "former" scout.
Cowherd is so full of hot air . First he says McCarthy is hopelessly overrated. And then when he's drafted by the Vikings, "Oh - any quarterback can do well there"
Yeah he's right, any QB can succeed here, just ask Darnold
So the Jets called the Vikes and said "Aaron Rodgers wants us to draft Mark Twain, which we aren't comfortable doing. Please just furrow your brow, we can just switch picks and we can get back to damage control for our mistake."
JJ is Colin's new QB obsession - he took the baton from Mayfield.
Did anyone watch JJ? He was a system qb in college! This is Christian Ponder 2.0 mark my words
Um, Sam Darnold for a year, at least...JJ is a winner. That's everything Kirk isn't, correct?
Switch thr QBs in college??? JJ would be licking his chops to throw to Adunze, Polk and McMillan and to have a wide open offense. How many times did JJ break contain and make a play on the run to save a drive? Penix coild never. Imagine stiff Penix trying to throw to UMs receiving core. It wouldnt look thr same and he's probably be mad that his team ran that much. I move Penix but love JJ more.
Yes, Colin knows, just like Fran Tarkentin succeeded, took them to four SB's. Just not this year.
I love how they omit that Michael Penix tore up his ACL twice in the same knee and a whole bunch of other injuries. My God these talking heads don’t know anything they’ve been literally wrong about the whole draft all the way up until now and they still spouting bullshit there there’s a reason these guys aren’t GM.
Man the Sam Darnold luv from yiu 2 is crazy lol. Kyle valued him as back up and Ocinell dies to a bridge back up dude is not a starter lol
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Again colin love to hate on the Vike.
2 weeks ago cowterd said McCarthy wasn’t going to do jack squat in the NFL. It’s easy to look up. He changes his tune all the time. He’s a skip bayless wanna be who cannot be taken seriously.
Still waiting for the Colin's take that Sam Darnold will succeed to come true.
Looks like it came true
Lol Belicheck says he can play right now btw
Yeah right…Cowherd is a real football expert…NOT! He just flaps his yap and says whatever pops into his head! Tomorrow he will have a 180 degree different opinion and completely forget what he had previously said! Remember this Russ comments?!?!
I just don't see it and yes I watched a lot of his games! The best average QB getting drafted!!!
Man colin got it all wrong killed jj and now he saying he going to succeed
JJ is overrated......Unless they are going to play a run oriented offense. He is not a pure passer. He is an opportunistic QB that relies on play action. Yes he is a winner and big play guy but if you are going to rely on him to put up big numbers passing your are wrong
No, it’s the Vikings. Cursed franchise. Zero titles. They’re the Cubs of the NFL. Maybe a title in 2067.
"He will be a bust... be a bust.. be a bust in the Hall of Fame" (pop culture reference via Wizard of Oz)
He’s a damn liar, yesterday on his show he said he was Daniel Jones 2.0
I think Thor Nystrom turned him. Nystrom made a great case for JJ
Sam Darnold will not make more then 10 starts, I’d bet on it.
Did he say the Lions were a powerhouse?😂😂😂 one good season and everybody’s butt gets wet damn let them do it for two or three seasons and see because me personally I think they’re going to be the same old Detroit Lions this year. I’m won’t even make the playoffs.
Detroit is young and improving. Their gonna run that division for a while
If Harbaugh thinks JJ is great he would've drafted him.
He's got Herbert ffs; Why would he draft a QB?
Well he’s also not the GM or Owner….
The helmet you're required to wear when you walk must be buckled too tight
WTF tell me your trolling 🤦🏾♂️
@@pat557 Harbaugh claims JJ gonna be one of the greatest. If u had Herbert and Mahomes comes along, you wouldn't take Mahomes?
I hate that Justin Jefferson has to be subjected to these subpar QBs on a contract year.
That switch QBs foolishness makes no sense.
McCarthy will be a bust, Blake Bortles, Trey Lance, Zack Wilson, Christian Ponder2.0 Penix is better than McCarthy
Nope
JJ already the winner cause he always bested Penix and winning the National Championship. Penix might become the backup.
Penix got injured every year in college. Big nope for me.
JJ can't throw deep, he throws behind his receivers and gets flustered if his first read isn't open. This will be the biggest bust of this years draft!
some of that can be fixed
He's made 67+ yard cross-field passes. How "deep" does he need to throw? Gets flustered? Obviously, you haven't watched him play.
@@buckhorncortez yea the coach runs a runs first offense watch herberts passes go down
He had 3 TDs of 45 plus yards at the Horse shit in columbus and owned OSu and Ryan Day 😂😂😂
Have u actually seen him play? U sound like a clown or a hater... u do know he was the best QB under pressure, 3rd downs, rpo's and made all the plays he needed to make to win? Right? U do know that? Right?
Vikings guaranteed that they don’t make the playoffs for 4 years.
He will be a bust 💯
This won't age well. When you are proven wrong, at least just admit it.
Not
I hope not. We suffered long enough.
Who cares. If he is bad then just draft another qb later. Just keep trying. Not like the Vikings will be missing out on anything.
"He will be a bust... be a bust.. be a bust in the Hall of Fame" (pop culture reference via Wizard of Oz)
NFL is not college stupid... He will fail