Why Gaijin Removed The Maus

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus9571
    @panzerkampfwagenviiimaus9571 3 года назад +3553

    Don't worry guys i not the game, but will always be in your hearts

    • @papyfun5097
      @papyfun5097 3 года назад +84

      mmmmm yes maus

    • @the_real_kevin8996
      @the_real_kevin8996 3 года назад +66

      you are my heart

    • @RedVRCC
      @RedVRCC 3 года назад +50

      @@papyfun5097 I COULDN'T GET YOU IN TIME ;-;

    • @snorkelboi
      @snorkelboi 3 года назад +16

      You're in my tech tree

    • @blacktor1278
      @blacktor1278 3 года назад +11

      @@RedVRCC you will have another chance this year

  • @frankdrebin3988
    @frankdrebin3988 3 года назад +2459

    Someone said that Spookston's Historically Accurate video about the Maus was the reason why it was removed.

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 3 года назад +166

      Wow, like Gaijin would look at those videos and all

    • @adwai1h653
      @adwai1h653 3 года назад +84

      @@Predator20357 I'm pretty sure at least someone in the Gaijin chain would have looked at a few of his videos

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 3 года назад +24

      @@adwai1h653 I was referring to the historical accurate stuff, as it mostly go into details that wouldn’t affect the in game stuff like reliability problems or crew skills decreasing

    • @MsZsc
      @MsZsc 3 года назад +2

      Hes famous

    • @АлександрМедведев-м9й
      @АлександрМедведев-м9й 3 года назад +21

      Well, Spooker once bragged how he can request vehicles from Gaijin. So, it means, that he have some influence. So, probably, someone from Gaijin saw his videos.

  • @le_combattant2458
    @le_combattant2458 3 года назад +4800

    Maus: 7.7
    Leopard 7.3
    Me : "Gaijin, where is the logic ?'"
    Gaijin: yes KOMRAD

    • @Serby665
      @Serby665 3 года назад +279

      Maus would b better at 3.7

    • @foxslt4533
      @foxslt4533 3 года назад +389

      @@Serby665 bruh no ot should be 1,3 so it doesn't get bullied by p47s

    • @omalley854
      @omalley854 3 года назад +142

      U know the maus is 8.0 in arcade

    • @DefinitelyNotEmma
      @DefinitelyNotEmma 3 года назад +97

      Logic in war thunder? xD
      Is it April fools day again?

    • @m1a1abrams3
      @m1a1abrams3 3 года назад +84

      players: throws money at snail
      snail: makes p2w vehicles
      players: "gaijin, why do dis?:

  • @ledhceb
    @ledhceb 3 года назад +2315

    Wut? No Landkreuzer P. 1000 Ratte? A perfectly balanced, historically accurate tank!

    • @sparrow9990
      @sparrow9990 3 года назад +52

      If u think about it most things at the br it would likely be able to easily kill it like its armor wasnt accually that thick just use a apfsd shell and aim up to the back of the turret when shooting through the hull and blast its ammunition out of exsistance

    • @sparrow9990
      @sparrow9990 3 года назад +11

      @The Yangem I know that but geigen would likely have put it at a fairly high br because its guns

    • @sparrow9990
      @sparrow9990 3 года назад +5

      @@ahalfsesameseedbun7472 from the bottom yes I believe they are and the hull of the p1000 was only supposed to be like 300 mm thick last time I checked

    • @sparrow9990
      @sparrow9990 3 года назад +3

      @The Yangem oh oof I didnt read the end of the comment but I'm still fairly certain many vehicles at the time could sort of penetrate it unless its u know a Sherman or anything useless for anti tank

    • @JarOfDirt.
      @JarOfDirt. 3 года назад +11

      Gajin would probably put it at br 5.7

  • @conorbrownell5659
    @conorbrownell5659 3 года назад +604

    2017- I wonder how long it’ll be until Gaijiin reworks the BR system...
    2021- I wonder how long until I decide to stop playing this shit

    • @CheemsofRegret
      @CheemsofRegret 3 года назад +29

      I stopped last year. Can't be bothered with it anymore.

    • @2K-Tan
      @2K-Tan 3 года назад +31

      Game has way too much BS now.
      When I hit an poorly angled T92 LT in the top of his turret facing upwards at me with a full caliber 122 MM AP HE shell and it kills his commander only? Nope. Done.
      Proceeds to 1 tap my full health, angled IS-2 with a pathetic 76 MM.
      > uninstall the game.

    • @groundbeef6156
      @groundbeef6156 3 года назад +15

      @@CheemsofRegret me too man, 0 regrets, why would a play warthunder when I could play a game that actually wants me to play it and doesn’t punish me for not doing good.

    • @unwillfullyignorant7805
      @unwillfullyignorant7805 3 года назад +18

      After a year of play, I just quit the game. Pure free to play just isn’t fun, you get clubbed like a seal if you do too well because it puts you in higher skill level. I felt like I was being put in matches with people above my BR every single match. It resulted in me having to just play 2-3 matches straight where all I did was purposely die in the hopes of being put to an appropriate skill level, it didn’t help.

    • @2K-Tan
      @2K-Tan 3 года назад +7

      @@unwillfullyignorant7805 Basically this, when I attempt to play my 7.0 T-44-100 with all my other 6.3's and 6.7's... Oh you don't want to fight 8.0's? *too bad, we don't care*
      Not the best loadout I know, But how am I going to unlock the better vehicles and modifications for the T-44-100 If I don't play it? You're not, At least not at any reasonable rate..
      So basically, spawn once in the T-44-100 7.0 in a 8.0 match, do the best you can, die and then proceed to spawn in your 6.7's and 6.3's to get farmed the rest of the game by 8.0's.
      What a joke of a game.

  • @mynamejeff7894
    @mynamejeff7894 3 года назад +629

    "In a down teir it faces tanks that couldnt even penetrate it"
    *laughs In killing maus with a t34 57*

    • @jerryalbus1492
      @jerryalbus1492 3 года назад +25

      A 57mm penning Maus? I smell bullshit on this one.

    • @mynamejeff7894
      @mynamejeff7894 3 года назад +120

      @@jerryalbus1492 all you have to do is ricochet the round off the turret check into the hull

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 3 года назад +42

      Well trapshotting isn’t a standard way of penning a tank but it’s true that the chances multiply when many people shoot at you

    • @maximkovac2000
      @maximkovac2000 3 года назад +25

      People did this with a L3/33 so whatever. Mouse definitely is not balanced at 7.7, but in a bad way. It really sucks to play it against ATGMs

    • @siegfried2k4
      @siegfried2k4 3 года назад +74

      @@maximkovac2000 All heavy tanks suffer in the face of HEATFS and ATGMS. We don’t have great King Tiger vs. IS-3 brawls anymore. Now you spawn on a T34/KT/IS3 and get clapped by a italian lunchbox ATGM

  • @Мишаня-у6н
    @Мишаня-у6н 3 года назад +542

    "Maus is impenetrable in downtier"
    Meanwhile T95 with even more frontal armor on 7.0

    • @monticore1626
      @monticore1626 3 года назад +69

      The t95 has exploitable weak spots that the maus doesn’t (cupola, sides, engine deck)

    • @IceAxe1940
      @IceAxe1940 3 года назад +34

      Also the T95 is a casemate which means it doesn't have a turret unlike the maus.......

    • @LeanBeefAdobo
      @LeanBeefAdobo 3 года назад +27

      @@IceAxe1940 also don’t forget the coaxial 75 mm gun that can shoot heat, smoke, and HE.

    • @riccardomariani9648
      @riccardomariani9648 3 года назад +65

      @@monticore1626 man stop clowning, cupolas on the T95 are not a weakspot, yea maybe you can kill the comander but are not wide enough to to activate the fuse so you lose 1 crew.
      Exept the IS-3 every tank side is a weakspot.
      The T95 can pivot at a decent speed, and the Maus has 6.5°/sec of turret rotation; basically a casemate.

    • @user-CB69
      @user-CB69 3 года назад +5

      @@riccardomariani9648 yea also t95 afa I've seen can change hull direction like it's a light tank.

  • @roccetryan8864
    @roccetryan8864 3 года назад +718

    "To keep new people from being frustrated when getting it" Ah yes, cause new players (and basically every player) are not being frustrated every game nevertheless.

    • @slwgekte
      @slwgekte 3 года назад +28

      I was fine when i was a new player, its when i got to higher tiers that it becane frustrating. Not seeing anything at range and just get 1 hit killed every time is what got me

    • @roccetryan8864
      @roccetryan8864 3 года назад +12

      @@cc-bk3tx it's a fun game I know, but before writing this comment I got uptiered 7 times in a row with 3.3 and 3.7 US, and I died to premium german and russian tanks.

    • @Gangkoyt
      @Gangkoyt 3 года назад +3

      @@slwgekte dude I would suffer with all of these vehicles just to play them I subscribe to the it’s your grave idea keep the vehicle if it’s bad then it’s up to you to get it

    • @roccetryan8864
      @roccetryan8864 3 года назад +4

      @@slwgekte yes I really enjoyed low tier, but when I got to 3.3 with the US, I got uptiered every single game. And than I got to 3.7 and got full uptiered as well *15 TIMES IN A ROW* Only thing that keeps me playing is when I finally get my tier and get 11 kills or just playing low tier. Now I started playing great britann and it's rly fun :DDD

    • @alum3676
      @alum3676 3 года назад +1

      @@roccetryan8864 first time?

  • @jagerfuchs0079
    @jagerfuchs0079 3 года назад +268

    Although the panther II wasn’t made, it looks sick af

    • @The_Irish_Fox
      @The_Irish_Fox 3 года назад +16

      And is a beast of a tank

    • @carol7311
      @carol7311 3 года назад +31

      There is a surviving hull but it's gutted.
      US Forces captured it and found it empty. its currently awaiting for its museum to open up as its underconstruction. Also with it is a Jagdtiger and 2 Panthers, Ausf.A and Ausf.G

    • @AttiliusRex
      @AttiliusRex 3 года назад +1

      Panther II as depicted in wat thunder is a world of tanks fantasy with a gun that wont fit in the turret, i absolutly despise their take on it. Give it a 75mm and its fine

    • @tyler_bt3326
      @tyler_bt3326 3 года назад +12

      @@AttiliusRex the 75mm wasn’t actually much worse than the 88mm in reality, at least not at the ranges these tanks ended up fighting. The extra weight, width and ammo size for the 88 arguably wasn’t worth the effort over the long 75mm the panther mounted

    • @siegfried2k4
      @siegfried2k4 3 года назад +1

      @@tyler_bt3326 Panther 2 was equipped with long 88, not the short 88

  • @darkstock5103
    @darkstock5103 3 года назад +208

    Honestly the Panther ll is a missing gap in Germany’s Medium tank line up. You jump from a 6.0 Panther to a 7.3 Leopard. With the Tigers it’s 5.3, 5.7, 6.3, 6.7

    • @bara555
      @bara555 3 года назад +42

      Yep, they could just go with the post-cancelation design. It would not hurt, as the Panther 2 was not some russian absolutely out of the world experimental mess, but a planned upgrade to an existing tank, and could easily be valanced ingame

    • @HowdyHartholz
      @HowdyHartholz 2 года назад +27

      @@bara555 how about the T-44-122? The tank destroyed itself during the test, because the gun was too big for the tank.. still in the game.

    • @Angel51WolfintheMist
      @Angel51WolfintheMist 2 года назад +5

      @@HowdyHartholz T-44-122 made it to testing, which means it wasn't paper. The gun breaking the turret falls under mechanical failures, like T28 catching fire because weak engine, Tiger II Hs having brittle hulls, KV-1s being mechanically unreliable, etc.

    • @spieler125_de6
      @spieler125_de6 2 года назад +6

      Panther II and tiger 10.5 need to return

    • @Mjstas
      @Mjstas Год назад +1

      In the current br you jump from a 5.7 panther g to a leopard 1

  • @chasebh89
    @chasebh89 3 года назад +38

    playerbase : why did you remove the maus?
    gaijin : *money*

    • @Kuschel_K
      @Kuschel_K 3 года назад

      Well so far they haven’t made any. Maybe from people that rushed their way to research it before it got removed.

    • @7ITZDANGER7
      @7ITZDANGER7 7 месяцев назад

      They made thousands of dolars by selling e100s which was never sold before maus got removed​@@Kuschel_K

  • @Cris-xy2gi
    @Cris-xy2gi 3 года назад +213

    Oh man, I remember *that* shitshow...
    The memes were hilarious, but the community was in chaos lmfao

    • @apocalypticsurvivor1881
      @apocalypticsurvivor1881 3 года назад +10

      Have you ever played against a ho ri production or prototype at 7.3. It really is strong in the armor but also both versions 100% fiction and still its in the game but Maus an all the other german fiction tanks have been removed

    • @an_f-14_tomcat
      @an_f-14_tomcat 3 года назад +1

      @@apocalypticsurvivor1881 Japan has nothing to replace it though

    • @titan_tanker
      @titan_tanker 3 года назад +4

      @@apocalypticsurvivor1881 German have lots of tanks especially in 6.3-6.7 range so removing one or two doesnt affect their tree much
      Same cant be said to Japan..

    • @cqpp
      @cqpp 3 года назад +6

      @@titan_tanker the panther2 couldnt be replaced unlike the coelian or tiger 2 105 and as a result the winrates have massively dropped ever since

    • @RYNOCIRATOR_V5
      @RYNOCIRATOR_V5 3 года назад +2

      @@an_f-14_tomcat that's not a valid excuse in my book

  • @water1374
    @water1374 3 года назад +83

    Ah yes, historical accuracy. When the Italian R3 Warthogs flew in at 120km/h and decimated entire divisions of Panzer IV's and T-34's while having pilots with lemming brains.

  • @dalliskal4827
    @dalliskal4827 3 года назад +501

    Why did they remove the mouse
    The answer: they want to see the world burn
    Edit: i know i said mouse instead of maus

    • @derrickstorm6976
      @derrickstorm6976 3 года назад +8

      Very cute

    • @arima272
      @arima272 3 года назад +17

      @@elmosarmata9561 but Maus is literally "Mouse", where in the fuck you get that analogy

    • @thebritishpanda6545
      @thebritishpanda6545 3 года назад +11

      @@elmosarmata9561 the word "maus" means "mouse" instead of telling him to get his head out of his ass you should instead cocky bastard

    • @papyfun5097
      @papyfun5097 3 года назад +2

      @@arima272 yo what did he say

    • @Rico-v7r
      @Rico-v7r 3 года назад

      They could add the 155mm to the American T34 but Werhaboos don't want that smoke

  • @erikfaringer9593
    @erikfaringer9593 3 года назад +112

    4:11 That subtle tone change though. Man's really giving diction on the bottomline of this topic.

    • @Jagoogorman
      @Jagoogorman 3 года назад +20

      He sounds way too worked up over a game, needs to go outside 😂

    • @arthurmorgan3090
      @arthurmorgan3090 3 года назад +2

      @@Jagoogorman I guess.

    • @Jagoogorman
      @Jagoogorman 3 года назад +2

      @@arthurmorgan3090 stay outta this, black lung

    • @arthurmorgan3090
      @arthurmorgan3090 3 года назад +3

      @@Jagoogorman What's your problem, partner?

    • @apocalypticsurvivor1881
      @apocalypticsurvivor1881 3 года назад +7

      I love how he complains about german tanks and players, even last vidio he said "all german players don't complain only one german tank and it's not the tiger.,, but he dose not talk about tanks such as the t28 or t95 wich I can't pen with a raketenjagdpanzer 2 or ss11 atgms from the front or how he complains about the HSTVL being to weak even though it can shoot fast enough already

  • @TARmeow
    @TARmeow 3 года назад +138

    last time i was this early the Maus was still in game

    • @alexanderroblox4557
      @alexanderroblox4557 3 года назад +3

      But your not early compared to the other comments 🤡

    • @meteorname
      @meteorname 3 года назад +2

      he is early

    • @TARmeow
      @TARmeow 3 года назад +1

      @@alexanderroblox4557 bro im not comparing myself to other comments, im comparing myself to the last time i was early compared to my avg. ( :

    • @jamesmccann531
      @jamesmccann531 3 года назад +2

      it still is in the game though, you just cant research it. There is a difference

    • @TARmeow
      @TARmeow 3 года назад

      @@jamesmccann531 i know that, bk i have it along with other removed vehicles, even tho Gaijin used the term "hidden" most of the community (if not all) refers to them as removed, because they were "removed from the tech tree" and passed to the event/premium slots.
      so dont come with that bs that "it wasnt removed", i just said it in the first comment simply so that i wouldn't have to make a huge phrase, kind of ironic actually.

  • @vinex9385
    @vinex9385 3 года назад +175

    If the Maus is unplayable ? Why did Gaijin not use the same methode they use on the Ha-Go, FCM36 and H35 ? Being able to unlock the Maus after unlocking rank 6, so you are not forced to play it and have the choice to unlock it.
    Would have make more sense than to just traight up remove the poor thing from the game ._.

    • @MarketChange
      @MarketChange 3 года назад +5

      Oh they tried with the FCM36 and H35
      If you remember they removed them for some days in which the backlash was inmense and pretty much force them to bring them back

    • @vinex9385
      @vinex9385 3 года назад +2

      @@MarketChange heay I remember, but even if they wanted to remove them entirely before the backlash.. they still saw that it was a solution that work ! Player were not force to play those vehicle and Gaijin could then make Japan and France rank 1 more playable. It was a win/win situation, so it's a bit weird they did not do the same for the Maus. Maybe they have very specific plans in mind for our chonky boi, who knows ? :3

    • @chewychew4761
      @chewychew4761 3 года назад +8

      Trust me, you don't want to play the Maus unless its for the lols. Everyone can pen you by shooting blindy while you have to a long ass time to aim at the softest spot and still wish to pen it.

    • @vinex9385
      @vinex9385 3 года назад

      @@chewychew4761 Nobody want to play the H35 either, but it still got a huge backlash upon it's removals. Like the FCM36, the Ha-Go and the Maus. But heay, I agree with you ! The Maus became obsolete and unplayable.

    • @chewychew4761
      @chewychew4761 3 года назад +1

      @@vinex9385 people just play Maus for the memes or if you want to lose tons of money

  • @allysohnz257
    @allysohnz257 3 года назад +182

    Hope you're all having a good day

  • @topbanana.2627
    @topbanana.2627 3 года назад +42

    I was actually fine with not being able to pen it from the front and having to work my way round the side to take it down. It was really fun

    • @Nick-rg8oz
      @Nick-rg8oz 3 года назад

      He didn't have the time to reposition himself either, so..

    • @topbanana.2627
      @topbanana.2627 3 года назад +6

      @@Nick-rg8oz Yeah, and today i just saw the poor thing just finally manage to get to the battle and get killed instantly 1 shot from the front. Like whats the point

    • @adrewadrew5860
      @adrewadrew5860 3 года назад

      @@topbanana.2627 to buy premium for repair bills

    • @deezboyeed6764
      @deezboyeed6764 3 года назад

      No no you don't get it, the general audience doesnt want to have to think, they want to point and shoot. Thats why wot is massivly outselling wathunder. Its the sad truth

    • @shronkler1994
      @shronkler1994 2 года назад

      @@deezboyeed6764 but WOT grind is also way easier and you can access the tanks they advertise decently well, at least relative to war thunder. also balancing is easier to do. WOT can directly buff or nerf tanks and add absolutely fake ones to fill gaps rather than fumble around with repair costs and BR lowering/raising

  • @anderlillemaa4392
    @anderlillemaa4392 3 года назад +174

    I'm not sold. Gaijin has purposefully made the whole game more frustrating for money and I don't think one tank, that isn't even the worst one to balance, would be an issue for them for this reason, especially since it's amongst the most iconic vehicles ever built.

    • @taliawtf6944
      @taliawtf6944 3 года назад +13

      The game is a balance mess frankly, and the fact they pit world war 2 tanks against 1980's tanks who they would realistically have no chance at beating makes this very clear. They will add these tanks in as premium tanks later on down the road to make some cash. I dropped the game a while back and have no desire to return after they made night maps and had you in old tanks that can't use night vision against newer tanks that could not only see you long before you saw them but had guns/ammo that made your armor pointless at any angle. Fuck that.

    • @siluda9255
      @siluda9255 2 года назад

      @@taliawtf6944 next month you will be back to play some different tech tree on low tier

    • @taliawtf6944
      @taliawtf6944 2 года назад

      @@siluda9255 Actually it's been a few years since I played war thunder.

    • @pyroparagon8945
      @pyroparagon8945 2 года назад +1

      @@taliawtf6944 hopefully they just completely reset it later. Tiers are done by timespans. Pre 1939, 1940-1941, 1942-1943, 1944-1945, 1945-1955, and a few more decade tiers for newer vehicles. Literally a perfect and logical fix

    • @taliawtf6944
      @taliawtf6944 2 года назад

      @@pyroparagon8945 That looks like a pretty balanced spread actually.

  • @dimitarkondev5522
    @dimitarkondev5522 3 года назад +201

    What baffles me is that Gaijin removed the Maus with the excuse that "The vehicle never saw service" while selling the Obj. 120 as a premium that used to dominate 7.7 at the time of the Maus being removed.

    • @mashuushiro4267
      @mashuushiro4267 3 года назад +27

      When did they say that? The official announcement of the changes explicitly states it was for balance reasons.

    • @jammygamer8961
      @jammygamer8961 3 года назад +24

      and the object 120 now gets to dominate 7.3 instead

    • @Sky_Shas
      @Sky_Shas 3 года назад +17

      Dude did you even watch the video? The maus was removed because it was impossible to balnce in a way that the vehicle was playable but not OP. It was nothing about service or not

    • @mashuushiro4267
      @mashuushiro4267 3 года назад +21

      @@Sky_Shas you don't get it. For the sake of shitting on Gaijin you can even make shit up and people will still applause you because gaijoobles bad.

    • @kraftzero2947
      @kraftzero2947 3 года назад +7

      @@mashuushiro4267 they did say the vehicles never saw service. Thats why they removed the tiger 105 and the coelian and the panther 88 i believe. Good thing i had them all already. But like why not just drop the maus to 7.3 then it wont get slapped with every sabot in the game...

  • @copunit12
    @copunit12 3 года назад +130

    My thing about the maus is this. It should have gotten the French treatment of "you have unlocked all tier 5 vehicles here is the maus for free just pay for the crew training and upgrades". To me this would solve "some" of the issue players were having of it being "impossible" to balance.

    • @MadManchou
      @MadManchou 3 года назад +7

      How is that a french treatment though?

    • @fardmcshid931
      @fardmcshid931 3 года назад +35

      @@MadManchou because the old French starter tanks were so shit they made it so you could only unlock them after reaching tier 2

    • @__-jp3ry
      @__-jp3ry 3 года назад +5

      Same goes for the Ha-Go I believe

    • @kazakhstanisastate4614
      @kazakhstanisastate4614 2 года назад +3

      I like that idea it's essentially, you worked hard, go have some fun

    • @404cheeseburgernotfound5
      @404cheeseburgernotfound5 Год назад

      @@kazakhstanisastate4614 me too

  • @Cylus024
    @Cylus024 3 года назад +25

    This was really necessary, thanks for clearing things up.

  • @mxcokoko
    @mxcokoko 3 года назад +36

    I'm having deja vu, I swear you uploaded this years ago

    • @zero8zero.5one5
      @zero8zero.5one5 3 года назад

      maybe the gameplay was recorded in the past and was used in both videos..? idk-

    • @legate5923
      @legate5923 3 года назад

      @@zero8zero.5one5 no because he is playing the new soviet map

    • @rxzxqx6982
      @rxzxqx6982 3 года назад +1

      yeah, i remember he was saying a same context

  • @Chopstorm.
    @Chopstorm. 3 года назад +35

    The Panther II and Tiger 105 made sense when they were added. They were added in so Germany had something that could combat the T-54, which outclassed everything at that time.

    • @elkrumb9159
      @elkrumb9159 3 года назад +6

      Yeah TBH that makes a lot of sense but still Germany now has no 6.7s anymore which kinda makes playing the tier a little gay

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 3 года назад

      I don’t get how the panther 2 changed anything, it got the same gun but less armor. The only thing that makes me use it over the tiger 2p is it’s mobility and small front turret area

    • @Chopstorm.
      @Chopstorm. 3 года назад +1

      @@maplearrow1842 Those reasons on top of the fact that it cost less to spawn.

    • @maplearrow1842
      @maplearrow1842 3 года назад

      @@Chopstorm. spawn cost means nothing if you don’t get kills because of unbalanced opponents though

    • @Chopstorm.
      @Chopstorm. 3 года назад +7

      @@maplearrow1842 If you're not killing anything with an 88, that's a personal problem, sorry. There are plenty of targets out there that you can deal with from any range. The Panther II is a great tank.

  • @sanyeeter1840
    @sanyeeter1840 3 года назад +12

    Meanwhile Russia having vehicles that were never made.
    Gaijin: Yea let's keep them!

  • @elmarcus300
    @elmarcus300 3 года назад +59

    Damn I clicked so fast, 47 seconds after upload

    • @Keklord_
      @Keklord_ 3 года назад +1

      47 seconds? that's a pretty slow clicking finger bro

    • @programtheta1514
      @programtheta1514 3 года назад +1

      Nice

  • @deflepperdrocks12954
    @deflepperdrocks12954 3 года назад +46

    The "balance" argument has always been an excuse for gaijin to slack off, we have >400mm pen HEAT rounds at 6.3/6.7 and without a ground only mode you always have the option of bombing the Maus
    Throw in BR decompression and you could definitely find a spot for it where it still feels like a proper superheavy but isn't immune to all but air strikes

    • @siko9799
      @siko9799 3 года назад +6

      making it immune to tanks but vulnerable to planes is a bad idea

    • @Real_Claudy_Focan
      @Real_Claudy_Focan 3 года назад +2

      How you dare to contradict Mr Spookston ??
      (You're 100% right)

    • @deflepperdrocks12954
      @deflepperdrocks12954 3 года назад +1

      @@siko9799 I specifically said in the last line that with decompression you could achieve armor meta for the Maus without relying on planes being the only solution

    • @siko9799
      @siko9799 3 года назад

      @@deflepperdrocks12954 we’re never getting br decompression

    • @deflepperdrocks12954
      @deflepperdrocks12954 3 года назад +1

      @@siko9799 even without it you could drop the BR, Mateus Stocki above us did a pretty good job describing why but tl;dr every nation has something that can frontally pen the Maus at a lower BR than it, some a significantly lower BR
      If you consider flanking into the equation (considering how slow it is) even in a full downtier with a reduced BR you can kill it relatively easily

  • @ruliw8520
    @ruliw8520 3 года назад +32

    Press F for the thicc boi
    Really though, maus was my favorite tank in WT for like 3 years and they just removed it from the game undirectly (WW2 X Cold War) and then directly (maus got deleted from tech tree) :(

    • @vinccool96
      @vinccool96 3 года назад +1

      If you unlocked it you can play it

    • @ruliw8520
      @ruliw8520 3 года назад

      @@vinccool96 i don't :((( also stopped playing wt because the hot track update was way too much for my computer to handle

  • @pjayx7320
    @pjayx7320 3 года назад +158

    "Welcome to War Thunder where every problem is solved by nerfing the Germans"

  • @RussianRainbow
    @RussianRainbow 3 года назад +8

    IIRC in ground forces beta the reason the 105mm tiger and the Panther II were added is because they were needed to fill out the tech tree at that time (considering gaijin was brand new to ground vehicles,) that was almost 8 years ago though, a lot has changed and they're no longer necessary as tech tree vehicles. It would still be nice to see them come back as researchable vehicles for the newer players though.

    • @AttiliusRex
      @AttiliusRex 3 года назад

      As spook covered in the vid, those two tanks are fantasy tanks hold together with wehreaboo hopes and dreams,
      Seriously though, their guns doesnt ecen fit in their turrets, they dont belong in war thunder at all

    • @Phantom-xp2co
      @Phantom-xp2co 3 года назад

      @@AttiliusRex the guns don't fit simply because gaijin, instead of giving them the correct turret, slapped the 105 mm gun into the regular king tiger turret and the long 88 into the regular schmalturm.
      Btw I enjoy a lot my tiger 2-105 and the panther 2, they are very fun to play

  • @jonmason189
    @jonmason189 3 года назад +57

    I played with a guy who had a maus last night. I helped push it 2000 meters to the battlefield only to watch it blow up from a single hit. I was very sad 😥

    • @FA-fo4qh
      @FA-fo4qh 3 года назад +21

      I have Maus and I can confirm that this happens... a lot. Drive, shot once, try to repair your barrel, get killed by APCR or HEAT or plane or missile. :D That's why I hardly ever try to use Maus.

    • @majo3488
      @majo3488 3 года назад +2

      Just use it on small city maps, with a good team you can a really good access denial platform - as the doom turtles.

    • @FA-fo4qh
      @FA-fo4qh 3 года назад +5

      I know. With a good team every tank can be good. :D My personal best with Maus is 9 kills in one game - but that was only because I had very good teammates. Usually it's hard to get 2 kills before being destroyed.

    • @jonmason189
      @jonmason189 3 года назад +2

      @@FA-fo4qh team mates are everything. I usually get teamed up with miss independent players, they all go to different points and do their own thing. Not everytime but a lot. I usually try to follow and support someone who seems like they are playing the objective, even if they won't acknowledge me doing so. The game is so much fun though. They should do more advertising, I didnt find out about this game until recently watching RUclips videos. I didn't even knownit existed until 3 or 4 months ago

    • @winchesterchua3311
      @winchesterchua3311 3 года назад +2

      The numbers Mason.

  • @AnEnglishBean
    @AnEnglishBean 3 года назад +20

    Would be nice if they made a 'funnies' section of tech research just for stuff like the panther 2 and maus

  • @MrSquigglies
    @MrSquigglies 3 года назад +26

    There needs to be a hard break between ATGMs and ww2 era vehicles, and a hard break between jets with and without AAMs. And maybe between jets and props in general.
    That's what would help balance imho

    • @pyroparagon8945
      @pyroparagon8945 2 года назад +3

      Germany has a plane that can go over 400mph in tier 2. The HE100 D1 fights against biplanes.

  • @DeV-jn5to
    @DeV-jn5to 3 года назад +1

    1:13 looks like the panther the tank crew fought on the bridge in the movie "T-34" (Because of the camera gear)

  • @panzer_weeb8937
    @panzer_weeb8937 3 года назад +12

    i want a panther 2's night vision device on top of a Panther G and or F modifications, historically accurate, looks cool and ads a little bit of usability in night battles that arent that uncommon at their BR

    • @demete1230
      @demete1230 3 года назад +3

      I REALLY approve this idea

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад +2

      Mhm.
      Wouldn't really cost much in development time since it's just kit bashing.

  • @florix7889
    @florix7889 3 года назад +51

    When I started war thunder my goal was to unlock the maus and the panther 2 because it was at the time the top tier and i thought they looked so cool.
    When gaijin removed them it killed my motivation to play I had the feeling of being backstabbed.
    Since then I almost don't play WT anymore it's been à year that I haven't launched the game (exept for the april fools)

    • @TheDagraner4576
      @TheDagraner4576 3 года назад +3

      I stopped playing around the exact same time for almost the exact same reason. I unlocked all the removed tanks except maus, but I can still go back some day and finish it. However, its been over 2 years of no play and I don't think I'm going back.

    • @chewychew4761
      @chewychew4761 3 года назад +5

      Dont worry all the tier is ruled by Russian tanks now.

    • @RedAssassin274
      @RedAssassin274 3 года назад

      @@chewychew4761 lol what

    • @florix7889
      @florix7889 3 года назад +7

      @@TheDagraner4576 gaijin really shot themselves in the foot on this one

    • @ethanwhitney6168
      @ethanwhitney6168 3 года назад

      @@chewychew4761 Lmao Russia is not the king of rank 5.

  • @gilpvp4858
    @gilpvp4858 3 года назад +41

    i think gaijin should allow you to research the maus if you reach br 10.7 in the german ground vehicles tech-tree.

    • @marshmellominiapple
      @marshmellominiapple 3 года назад +2

      I agree, it should be researchable, but not in the main tree.

    • @fouloleitarlide625
      @fouloleitarlide625 3 года назад +8

      Naaah man. I had 1700 hours before i left this game and i still didn't reach top tier in ground vehicles *i think i got to like 8.7* waaaaaaaaaaay too much grind to get a tank that you would only use for memes

    • @kajmak64bit76
      @kajmak64bit76 3 года назад +2

      @@fouloleitarlide625 git gud... i am 2080h in and i got pretty much entire soviet ground... and entire soviet air... and in a month or 2 i will have entire soviet helis too xd

    • @ericschneider7174
      @ericschneider7174 3 года назад +1

      @@kajmak64bit76 It also depends on how well you play, which mode and how often you play

    • @an_f-14_tomcat
      @an_f-14_tomcat 3 года назад +2

      @@kajmak64bit76 Soviet is just a game of lineups tho, once you have a lineup for a tier you're nearly unstoppable. Lots of other trees you're stuck with 3-4 tanks tops in a lineup

  •  3 года назад +7

    Had no idea people thought the mouse was removed for being a prototype. Gaijin made it very clear that they couldn't be bothered to balance it, hence the removal

  • @rokinz3270
    @rokinz3270 3 года назад +8

    I remember on the old actung panzer site that had detailed information on German tanks stated that the panzer 2 was meant to mount the 75mm kwk42 L/100 . That would have been one long gun

  • @rhystaylor851
    @rhystaylor851 3 года назад +18

    I'm still salty they removed the panther 2 before I had a chance to get it. Now that I'm finally at that tier I'm extra salty as there is a massive gap between the panther G and Leo 1

    • @rhystaylor851
      @rhystaylor851 3 года назад +4

      I agree with the move to remove the maus and tiger 105, and I understand why they removed the panther 2, but it's annoying they never replaced it with anything

  • @lakeegg1331
    @lakeegg1331 3 года назад +14

    It was removed because they turned back on their promise about modern vehicles

  • @nicholasleon7819
    @nicholasleon7819 3 года назад +2

    if panther II gets the fictional long 88 then i want my black prince to get the proposed comet engine for a top speed of 22mph

  • @alanwatts8239
    @alanwatts8239 3 года назад +8

    "Why did gaijin remove the maus?"
    Gaijin: hippity hoppity no reason other than profit

    • @heycidskyja4668
      @heycidskyja4668 3 года назад

      Not a bad reason, tbf

    • @firstduckofwellington6889
      @firstduckofwellington6889 3 года назад

      How would removing the maus benefit profits?

    • @tf-uderpy699
      @tf-uderpy699 3 года назад +1

      @@firstduckofwellington6889 to proberly make it a event vehicle that pretty much forces all but the players that play everyday all day to fork out their wallets.

    • @firstduckofwellington6889
      @firstduckofwellington6889 3 года назад

      @@tf-uderpy699 Well they haven't done it yet after all these years.

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад

      thats how i wonder since new players looking at what tanks got best armour be like: Maus 200mm thicc boi

  • @ginger7288
    @ginger7288 3 года назад +20

    I am still really saddened that I got into war thunder and started working my way through the German tech tree like 2 days before they removed all of those cool vehicles. I just feel like I should have a chance to get those tanks if I want.

    • @CN7810-X
      @CN7810-X 3 года назад

      they should do a thing where they give people that want them those vehicles but never give it to the people that don't want it

    • @crabbyjungle5670
      @crabbyjungle5670 3 года назад

      I think the Maus comes back to research every Christmas

  • @frisho2190
    @frisho2190 3 года назад +20

    What could have helped maus was limiting max BR difference from 1.0->0.7. (this would also be good alternation to BR decompression)

  • @cheesecompactor1071
    @cheesecompactor1071 3 года назад +2

    The Maus was so thicc it broke the snail's back.

  • @gunship0995
    @gunship0995 3 года назад +41

    Yeah, I disagree. Even down tiered, the tank was able to penetrate using HEAT guns or shot trap method. And bombs makes all tank equal.
    Want more unbalanced vehicles? Look at post war IS series or the Doom Turtle It has the same problem as the Maus (Good at Down tier but very bad at up tier) so I don't see it as problematic them getting down tiered to 6.x games (which is none). In fact, I would be more worried of post-war IS series fighting late WW2 tanks due having all of the holy Trinity of tank performance.
    The Maus was a situational tank being suited for close range or urban combats due to the high pen vehicles it faced so players shouldn't cry when they got killed sitting in the open at a long range map. The only real problem was the high repair cost it have.

    • @ajaxiplier5397
      @ajaxiplier5397 3 года назад

      Bombs don’t make all tanks equal

    • @NerdyCatCoffeeee
      @NerdyCatCoffeeee 3 года назад

      @@ajaxiplier5397 Pe-8 would like to disagree

    • @KentuckyAk101guy
      @KentuckyAk101guy 3 года назад +1

      @@NerdyCatCoffeeee All American CAS would disagree as well

  • @roadbeef
    @roadbeef 3 года назад

    All of these on topic comments and I've over here just vibing to the subtle Vangelis beneath the narration

  • @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots
    @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots 3 года назад +152

    Gaijin also recently changed the suggestion rules for the forums for passed to developers.
    Unfinished prototypes can now be suggested as long as the main components were built.
    Maybe we will be able to see stuff like a KV3 or somethimng

    • @netherwolves3412
      @netherwolves3412 3 года назад +11

      You won’t get out.

    • @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots
      @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots 3 года назад +19

      @@netherwolves3412 Not when it dives at 300 knots

    • @netherwolves3412
      @netherwolves3412 3 года назад +4

      @@JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots there is a beast deep inside of you.

    • @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots
      @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots 3 года назад +5

      @@netherwolves3412 it will not die
      IT will fight back

    • @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots
      @JTRRSuwontgetoutnotat300knots 3 года назад +10

      @BelovedShitposter yeah but it was built, the only problem is that there is literally no info at all on it
      No source is consistent and we only hav a track link to prove it s existance

  • @captainfactoid3867
    @captainfactoid3867 3 года назад +18

    I just wish you could view them in protection analysis

    • @deflepperdrocks12954
      @deflepperdrocks12954 3 года назад +6

      The wiki relatively recently gave us that ability, find the vehicle you want then click show in game

    • @captainfactoid3867
      @captainfactoid3867 3 года назад +2

      @@deflepperdrocks12954 didnt know that thanks

  • @0crowz
    @0crowz 3 года назад +2

    content creators like you are keeping the game alive , thank u man

    • @LipziG3R
      @LipziG3R 3 года назад +1

      At that point they're the only reason I'm still interested in the game at all. I think I put way more time into watching videos of WarThunder, instead of playing it myself.

    • @0crowz
      @0crowz 3 года назад

      @@LipziG3R Me too xDDDD ,

  • @coatofarms4439
    @coatofarms4439 3 года назад +6

    They need to add back the other German tanks because they add nuance to the BR and aren’t just the same American, Soviet or British lend lease vehicles.

  • @insertteahere3162
    @insertteahere3162 3 года назад +2

    I believe that the breech of the Tiger II 105's gun in-game is also actually just a regular KwK43 breech

  • @skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274
    @skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274 3 года назад +6

    any ww2 vehicle: “why are we still here just to suffer?”

    • @louiswright8282
      @louiswright8282 3 года назад +5

      Modern vehicles: "Yeah, we're totally balanced even when we have no skill and we get to the top of the leaderboard!!! You're just bad reeeee!!"

    • @skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274
      @skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274 3 года назад +2

      @@louiswright8282 hahaha

    • @dave_sic1365
      @dave_sic1365 3 года назад +2

      @@louiswright8282 atgms against panther? Just git gud 😂

    • @dave_sic1365
      @dave_sic1365 3 года назад +1

      @@louiswright8282 atgms against panther? Just git gud 😂

  • @Wiki-cq6fc
    @Wiki-cq6fc 2 года назад

    I don't even play war thunder that much but you've got mad respect for slapping in the big Chad blade runner ost music

  • @nicolaspeigne1429
    @nicolaspeigne1429 3 года назад +4

    It would be nice for Gaijin to reintroduce some old event vehicles. I need to get my hands in the Lorraine 155 and the Surblindé

  • @sniper6823
    @sniper6823 3 года назад +2

    I whole heartedly agree with everything you said, the only thing im sad about is not getting the AA that was removed in time

  • @LostParadise_
    @LostParadise_ 3 года назад +5

    You have an amazing ability to compact a lot of information into a short burst which is both controlled and extremely understandable. I'm impressed with virtually every video.

  • @Evaunit98
    @Evaunit98 3 года назад

    Thanks for clearing that up, I was just a little confused of why the maus was removed

  • @mdietrich6474
    @mdietrich6474 3 года назад +28

    I disagree with the Maus explanation “New” players at 7.7 would fully understand it’s a dumb fun tank not a super sweat tank

  • @katyusha1283
    @katyusha1283 3 года назад +2

    A lot of people though maus was removed because of historical reasons. Thanks for clearing it up.

  • @Roman-vj6pt
    @Roman-vj6pt 3 года назад +3

    Maus main here, and your take couldn’t be anymore wrong. Downtiers do not make you invincible to certain tanks.

  • @sebaurrestarazu6677
    @sebaurrestarazu6677 3 года назад +9

    3:46 "so to keep new players from being frustrated when getting it"
    **casually ignores that it takes literal months if not years to have a single tier 5 vehicle with the shitty grind system war thunder has** (unless you buy premium account + premium vehicles, but the odds of a new player instantly doing that are very low)

    • @katyusha1283
      @katyusha1283 3 года назад +1

      That's not relevant. That's just a another facto in skill. But in Maus's case, the'll get frustrated because it will die easly to HEAT-FS and ATGM vehicles. And the grind system is the games main mechanic. You can't just call it shitty. Think what would happen if war thunder had a short grind.

    • @nyarlathotep4889
      @nyarlathotep4889 3 года назад

      It would actually be fun. That’s what would happen if it had a short grind.

    • @sebaurrestarazu6677
      @sebaurrestarazu6677 3 года назад +1

      @@katyusha1283 honestly, I would die for a short grind in War Thunder
      I understand the large grind for the game in 2014-15 when the game had only like 4 or 5 nations, top tier was tier 5 and there weren't that much vehicles, it's understandable that a short grind during that time would make people play not for too long until they have everything and then quit
      but we are not in 2014-2015, the game has already 9 nations and more than 1000 researchable vehicles but the grind system hasn't changed
      with how much time it takes to grind a single tree of a single nation I can bet there's a lot of players that leave the game not because they don't like it, but because they aren't willing to spend real money on it and the feeling of progress is unexistent

  • @setesh1294
    @setesh1294 3 года назад +3

    First time I've seen someone else acknowledge the Ostwind II replacing the Coelian.

    • @thebravegallade731
      @thebravegallade731 3 года назад

      The ostwind 2 DOES have records of it being built... BUT it has even less documentation then the coelion.

    • @setesh1294
      @setesh1294 3 года назад +4

      @@thebravegallade731 a line and a half of uncited wording on Wikipedia does not count as documentation.

  • @user-ug7fk2js2x
    @user-ug7fk2js2x 3 года назад +2

    Best part is they added a one off prototype SPAA the same patch.

  • @Grossaaa
    @Grossaaa 3 года назад +9

    Many 6.7s can kill the Maus from the front. It's just that Gaining really wanted that iconic tank to farm some money.

  • @nickfilippos3340
    @nickfilippos3340 3 года назад

    Very informative video. We perceive things in a negative way but there is always a positive aspect to them. And in this case, that aspect is Gaijin actually learning from their mistakes. I am happy with that.

  • @LandkreuzerPRatte-uf9pc
    @LandkreuzerPRatte-uf9pc 3 года назад +3

    Game love my son. Son is here, in hearts. I here too, in soul.

  • @Yeah18
    @Yeah18 3 года назад +2

    They should make the Maus act like the FCM-36 and Ha-Go, in that you can research it once you get to a certain point in the tech tree

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад

      FCM 36 and ha go were removed because of gaijin's own pen calculation system.
      Guess if gaijin wants the ultimate meme bucks.
      Make the maus a squadron vehicle.

  • @thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334
    @thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334 3 года назад +4

    >Can't be balanced
    >122 can pen it from the side
    >US 105 and 120 can both pen it frontally at decent range
    >Theoretically killable with 50 cals
    >1970s mbt is apparently worse
    >mfw

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад

      Also HE buff meaning constant track and barrel spam and engine fires.

    • @georgebonanza9487
      @georgebonanza9487 3 года назад

      The 15cm sIG will take it out if you land a round on top. Which is a common way I take out most any tank.

    • @thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334
      @thefunnyguyfromtheburgerki3334 3 года назад +1

      @@georgebonanza9487 Yeah the Maus is especially prone to that since the little radiator covers on the hull roof are only like 10mm thick. Before the overpressure changes any damage would just get eaten up by fuel tanks, meaning that shot was only ever viable for a fire or 2, which is why I said it's technically killable with 50s if you approach it right. Hell, I've DONE it with ANM3s, but 50 cals have the pen for it

  • @kokkielove7304
    @kokkielove7304 3 года назад

    Nice halo 3 odst Deference For Darkness outro, love the OST from that game

  • @BotherRed
    @BotherRed 3 года назад +12

    Why Gaijin Removed The Maus: Because they don't want to balance their own game

    • @flatperson1306
      @flatperson1306 3 года назад +4

      did you miss the part where its hard to balance or what

    • @AceTheMM
      @AceTheMM 3 года назад +2

      @@flatperson1306 I don't think he paid attention.

    • @generalalexandre6451
      @generalalexandre6451 3 года назад +3

      @@AceTheMM probably didnt even whatched the video

    • @an_f-14_tomcat
      @an_f-14_tomcat 3 года назад

      Decompression would solve a ton of balance issues but fuck that, fuck me, fuck the game, queue times or some shit so no balancing allowed

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад

      @@an_f-14_tomcat yep thats why im going to enlisted.
      Puma VS jumbo? helpless
      Guy with TNT VS jumbo? YEET

  • @hairymoppins9659
    @hairymoppins9659 3 года назад +2

    You can still drive the panther II in the tank gunnery tutorial. I guess it's a small tribute to a fallen hero

    • @LipziG3R
      @LipziG3R 3 года назад +3

      Wait, really? That sounds like rubbing salt into the wound.
      "You see this cool vehicle? Its playable, right? It's definitely in the game! ... But guess what ..."
      This is kinda hilarious and pretty freaking sad.

    • @hairymoppins9659
      @hairymoppins9659 3 года назад

      @@LipziG3R i know it's gajiggles at their best but you know, take what you've got really

  • @UpToSpeedOnJaguar
    @UpToSpeedOnJaguar 3 года назад +4

    I personally always thought the 105 tiger was a major upgrade over the standard tiger II.

  • @BrownFoxWarrior
    @BrownFoxWarrior 3 года назад +1

    It also was "conveniently" timed to be able to sell the E-100 as a tournament prize around the same time.

  • @european_legends
    @european_legends 3 года назад +9

    why didnt they just make maus skipable? it would be nice for people who dont wants him and nice to people who wants him

  • @cqpp
    @cqpp 3 года назад

    Nice video, but I will say that we definently need the panther2 back as there's no replacement at 6.7 without uptiering to risk facing Bradley's and centauro's, they said they won't remove vehichles until a decent replacement is found and so far there isn't, so adding the panther2 back only for a while would help alot especially with winrates that dropped since the pa ther2 was removed, this can also help move the german m48 back to 7.3 where it should be as the panther2 excuse won't be there anymore if they add the panther2 back. Overall nice video and I hope you address this point so others can see, have a good day!

  • @treeviper1700
    @treeviper1700 3 года назад +6

    I had a lot of research points in the tiger II 105 yet it vanished still

  • @GamingwithHenry
    @GamingwithHenry 3 года назад

    Nice video Spookston!

  • @Bruhsound4.0
    @Bruhsound4.0 3 года назад +3

    im assuming you dont have the maus, unless you didn't want to suffer Spook?

  • @Fizzyxd
    @Fizzyxd 3 года назад

    "In a down teir it faces tanks that couldnt even penetrate it"
    Me: *Laughs in ASU-57*

  • @Germanempireaboolilel
    @Germanempireaboolilel 3 года назад +10

    Removing the mouse because "New Players" would complain about it beeing bad is the equivalent of amputating your arm because your hand hurts a bit.

    • @liviuganea4108
      @liviuganea4108 3 года назад

      There is an upside to this .... your hand can't hurt if you don't have it.

    • @KentuckyAk101guy
      @KentuckyAk101guy 3 года назад

      @@liviuganea4108, what about phantom pains

    • @liviuganea4108
      @liviuganea4108 3 года назад

      @@KentuckyAk101guy They're not real, can't hurt you, they've been nerfed with 220K repairs.

  • @JellyJam_Man
    @JellyJam_Man 8 месяцев назад +1

    Soooo, the Coelian was removed cuz it only had a wooden mock-up turret, but the HO-RI prototype and production (fully wooden mock-ups) are still in the game??? Makes sense to me

  • @impguardwarhamer
    @impguardwarhamer 3 года назад +3

    I mean, they've already made it an event vehicle. It was available for a short while late last year

  • @ВукВуксановић
    @ВукВуксановић 3 года назад +1

    Maus: exists
    400mm pen HEATFS 5.0br Swedish boi: hi

  • @justcauesproduction
    @justcauesproduction 3 года назад +3

    I’m glad I got my hands on the maus regardless

  • @ZEAL_FPV
    @ZEAL_FPV 3 года назад

    Thanks for the clarification!

  • @troglodyte280
    @troglodyte280 3 года назад +2

    “Because they don’t like fun” there. I made your video a second long

  • @winchesterchua3311
    @winchesterchua3311 3 года назад +1

    Gaijin: *Removes Maus*
    Me: Good, that's one less -loose end- German tank to deal with.

  • @magnagaurd
    @magnagaurd 3 года назад +3

    "If it were downtiered" yea, lemme know when you get a downtier

    • @TransGirlGaming
      @TransGirlGaming 3 года назад

      For real, like I played 30 matches today, and I tallied what they were and I got 3 downtiers, 7 matches where it was at my BR and the other 20 were uptiers, and today was a good day, normally I'll play like 50~ matches and get like 1 downtier, maybe 1 or 2 matches at my BR and all the other are max uptiers

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад

      yeah Downtiers are really rare compared to uptiers.

  • @strategicmind2652
    @strategicmind2652 3 года назад +2

    The 1 maus that was built is in the tank museum in kubinka

    • @diobrando2575
      @diobrando2575 3 года назад

      Actually, it's a combination of both prototypes. The turret of one, and the hull of the other.

  • @elbrados
    @elbrados 3 года назад +4

    Is gaijin still doing the event when the Maus is researchable on war thunders birthday weekend

    • @flashtirade
      @flashtirade 3 года назад

      Maybe. They did it last year, and they said they'd keep making it available on certain occasions.

  • @Baby-Eater
    @Baby-Eater 3 года назад

    Great video, clears a lot of things up

  • @michellebrown7714
    @michellebrown7714 3 года назад +12

    hmmmmm....
    Gaijin - "we cant balance the Maus, its too unfair"
    Wargaming - "here, hold my vodka"

    • @loganwalker8537
      @loganwalker8537 3 года назад

      uegh wargaming

    • @Ignas-Saxophone-Rat
      @Ignas-Saxophone-Rat 3 года назад +2

      Gaijin will sooner remove all the tanks before they fix the br compression that lead to this whole mess in the beginning

    • @michellebrown7714
      @michellebrown7714 3 года назад

      @@loganwalker8537 they can at least balance tanks, unlike gaijin

    • @StarkRaven59
      @StarkRaven59 3 года назад

      @@michellebrown7714 They can, but they don't. Wargaming's balance department is just as laughable, if not more, than Gaijin's.

    • @loganwalker8537
      @loganwalker8537 3 года назад

      @@michellebrown7714 wargaming adds in premiums on a monthly if not weekly basis that are 100% better than any other none premium tank. Then they nerv non premiums for being good against the premiums. Now tell me again they can balance tanks

  • @whitephillip6997
    @whitephillip6997 2 года назад

    Brutal! Gone before I even started playing the game... but still I feel the loss deeply 😔

  • @mustafakeskes9378
    @mustafakeskes9378 3 года назад +5

    Wish I could play with panther II ,Coelian,Tiger II 105 they seem pretty fun especially panther II it is a better T44-100 at a lower br...

    • @davidty2006
      @davidty2006 3 года назад

      Coelian could of stayed since just replace the turret with the boxy mockup one and call it a day.

  • @matthiuskoenig3378
    @matthiuskoenig3378 3 года назад

    they could replace the tiger 105 with a tiger with all the proposals that weren't canceled by german choice, that is a tiger with the list of planned upgrades recorded by Dr Adler on 6 feb 1945 (april 1945):
    ->HL234 with fuel injection
    ->hydrolic steering (improved turning circle)
    ->stabilised gun sights (which is something that needs to be added to the game, especially for the french)
    ->rangefinder
    ->increased hull ammuntion storage (by 12 rounds) proposition by henchel
    and could aditionally have the ordered krupp gun stabiliser 20 feb 1945
    -> they were also ordered to develope a fully or partially automatic feeding system, although this doesn't seem to have been designed (there was one for the jagpanther, but i can't find reliable sources that link this to the krupp design for the tiger II)
    you can then throw in the uranium APCR that were being tested for the kwk43

  • @techpriestsalok8119
    @techpriestsalok8119 3 года назад +3

    Yeah I can see why balancing the maus would be hard, it goes down a design philosophy that doesn’t really work, but doesn’t work for reasons that are less of a problem in war thunder. (logistics, production, combined arms, and reliability) You either got to put it against more advanced tanks that can eat it for breakfast with advanced weapons systems, or you put it against more historical opponents that can barely scratch it.
    Historically speaking it would have bean eaten up by artillery and bombing but I somehow doubt that would effectively balance it in war thunder unless they do some really heavy modification to the game.

    • @Mannerheimium1000KG
      @Mannerheimium1000KG 3 года назад

      Bombing is all you see at 6.7 and above.
      If maus sit at 7.3 or 7.0 allied CAS and atgms would still balance it out.
      You dont have idea how many times ive died with maus just by getting bombed

    • @techpriestsalok8119
      @techpriestsalok8119 3 года назад

      @@Mannerheimium1000KG interesting, I keep hearing the opposite, although I don’t play so I could just be in someone’s echo chamber by accident.

  • @cordingdesert9566
    @cordingdesert9566 3 года назад

    Short, sweet, and to the point