Don't forget to leave your own suggestions. Sorry if my voice is more unintelligible than usual, my mouth is messed up rn so normal speech is incredibly difficult.
Ideas for France Renault AMC 6x6 IFV (Elbit UT-30 30mm canon with x2 ATGM and panoramic thermals) EBR FL3 (normal turret) AMX 13 with early S530 twin 20mm (SPAA to replace the DCA 40) (no radar) AMX 10 C (RC hull, but with tracks from P), the modified french M47 with french 105mm, the GIAT modified T55 with french 105mm, the AMX 40 with 105 turret (stabilized) the AMX 32 with 105 turret (2 of them) (stabilized) the swiss mowag Shark with french FL20 (stabilized) the TDM10 (SA50) (french M10 with a SA50) the modified GMCs with x4 20mm flakvierling (20 made post war)
Great video! A suggestion you may be interested in, the LAV-700 (Cockerill 3030). It's an evolution of the LAV III/Stryker, with a 30 or 40mm cannon, and 1 or 2 BAYONET ATGMs in a fully stabilized turret. It's made in Canada (for WT purposes the UK), and has been exported to Saudi Arabia.
it would be nice to see that Italian SPAA like fleshed out so that the r3 can be given its proper performance and moved to an appropriate BR. An Italian IFV is also way overdue especially seeing as both the freccia and dardo are used in over 200 units with the Italian army. (and before it is said, the dardo definitely used TOW ATGMs when it was first deployed so spikes are not the issue with it's addition)
@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry the pegaso would be so much fucn thanks to the lighter weight and deep gun. There's also the AVL prototypes that fill the gaps between the fiat 6614 and centauro
It would be nice if they add also the "autocannone 100/17" and the "autocannone 90/53" which are basically 100/17 and 90/53 cannons mounted on a Lancia 3Ro truck or for the last one even on a Breda 52 truck. I feel like the italian tech tree need some trucks haha
Yes. Skink. The Americans the British the Canadians the Australians and the Indians need the skink. Tell everybody you know. Hell, tell everybody weatherh you know him or not. Skink
While they're at it, they should lower the Tiger 2 P & H to 3.3 - 3.7 respectively, because according to the History channel, the Tiger 2's only threat was the Sherman 75, and that's not saying much
@@TR33ZY_CRTM I disagree. I think the KTs should be reserve according to steam discussion forums made by some of the very highly intelligent people there.
Same. I want them back in some way or form, even as Premium Tanks. Why? I think they're cool, even if they're kinda useless/inaccurate to history, but who gives a shit about historical accuracy. If Gaijin wanted historical accuracy then tanks like the Porsche Tiger wouldn't be in the game.
I think it’d be nice to see the A45/FV201 added to Britain at 6.0/6.3 to fill the massive gap in the heavy tank line and give the Centurion mk1 an actual line up. It was essentially a Caernarvon with an unstabilized 17 pounder, meant as a universal tank prototype, and was the earliest prototype that led to the development of the Conqueror.
Battletech arguably has less consistent art than even 40K. Maybe you're talking about HBS's Battletech specifically and I guess that narrows it down, but still there's not a "definitive" version of basically anything like there is for a Leman Russ or Scorpion. Any judgements that would require looking at armor slopes, ride height, room for gun depression, etc would essentially be for one of like ten entirely different tanks with the same alleged statline. This is in addition to Battletech having a lot of justifications for things in obscure lore that work as excuses for weird design choices and game rules that don't align with reality, like the whole "oh, well, in the future armor got so good that you can't pierce it without breaking it first so that's why it works as a health bar instead of a damage modifier" thing that also explains why nearly every weapon that isn't a laser is rapid-fire. These raise questions in and of themselves, but it wouldn't be fair to judge its designs without factoring them in. Plus I don't wanna put words in his mouth but I think Battletech might just kinda, like, make him angry. The treatment of tanks vs mechs is hilariously one-sided. Like a video dissecting Battletech's underlying logic would probably have more material.
@@sparepartssparepartsempori519 while it's notable for specifying that its AC/20s fire 185mm shells at a low rate when so many other units just leave it ambiguous, the problem is that the general consensus still isn't specific enough to get things like the slope of the front plate or height beyond it being less than or equal to one level or 7m (which is a wide margin for tanks). Really all we have is a four-track twin-gun 80 tonne 54kph tank with abnormally short effective range and no coax MG. Further design details are beyond the depth of what I could get by browsing Sarna. Past that, like, yeah, there's some common themes- a dome-shaped turret and over-under guns- but the shape of the UFP, ride height, room for breech depression/elevation, engine intakes, and so on require specific references, and keep in mind a lot of fandoms feel strongly about this, so whatever one you choose is going to yield some salt along the lines of "oh, that was the *bad* art!" In addition, of course, to the usual pile of comments saying that it was a genius design either way and we should build two million IRL. You kinda got to design the best version of the Demolisher around those common themes by yourself if you want it to actually make a satisfying video, which I guess is a valid approach, but doesn't really solve the problem of inconsistent official art.
You may have said this before elsewhere, but I would love to see the TOG II* in War Thunder. World of tanks made it memey, but they also didn't give it accurate armor. Although knowing the reputation it has, they would probably make it a Premium and not a tech tree tank.
Would be cool if Gaijin would add some more things for the italian tech tree. They can add for aviation the CANT Z 501, the CANT Z 506 and maybe the Imam Ro 44. For tanks would be cool to see some "milk truck" like the Autocannone da 65/17 on Morris truck and the 100/17 on Lancia 3Ro. For the navy there are a ton of things that they can add like a lots of battleship more cruiser or destroyer.
* about fv215 heavy gun tank * gaijin: we cannot add the tank, being that miss historical archives of finished tank (photos exist, showing the almost full tank) * about panther 2 with 88mm and tiger 2 105mm * gaijin: accepted
>Gets tons of filler prototypes... >Another Leopard suggested for smooth brains to plox 6.3br >Puma Cancer IFV jingling in the snail's coin purse Stingray folder that should've existed a long time ago: EXCUSE ME WHAT THE FUCK
Funny stuff: Leopard I B exists in World of Tanks as the Italian Tier IX Progetto Standard B, even it's story matches except, is not Italian at all except some components and futurible adoption by that time of development, and instead of hydro-pneumatic suspension has that auto-reloading mock up.
@@313A9 It is indeed as, as far as i know, the top tiers were added in Blitz if not the whole branch. (Console now is missing Tiers I and II because C-B decided they were "boring")
*proposition* : for the one's that like the HSTVL , there is a similar tank that did exist (and that could be placed at the same br as the HSTVL). im talking about the HIMAG( High Mobility Agility) . it was , like the HSTVL a prototype , this time that appeird in 1978 , it still ad a 3 man crew , it was twice havier because it was bigger in hight and was more large than is little brother. it ad the same weapon , ad the same autonomy as the HSTVL , but was cappable to go faster in practice (97KM/H for the HIMAG contrary to the HSTVL's 83KM/H)thx to is 12 cylinder diesel continental AVCR 1360 (1500 ch/ 1118.6 KW). the only hole about this tank is that is armor was not comunicated , but its probable that it ad the same armor or slightly fikker armor , since it was slightly bigger , but was 2 times hevier that the HSTVL . (sorry for mi righting , im not english and im still learning )
yugoslavias crazy frankenstein tanks and their improved versions of american and US vehilce just add em like was done with the south africans. They can go into either US or russian tree
@@Priceeee Somewhat if we leave all the variants in, otherwise they will just end up like china or lesser italy especially in lower tier where it will be a mix of german, US, and Italian tanks and improvised vehicles, their navy would also be a mess as low tier could only be improvised gunboats and disguised raiders which are questionable in terms of implementation. Otherwise they would also have major holes with in parts of trees without the variants, their helicopter might as well just be russian with a few french thrown in while their aircraft would by horribly empty or with only stock british and russian planes (and few of those) with rank V (or maybe high IV) being their original strike aircraft and light fighters
I'd like to see Sentinel tank added. It's the only tank that We designed and produced down here and despite its obvious problems it was a surprisingly modern vehicle for a 1940 design. AC IA 6pdr gun AC IB 25pdr gun AC III 2 pdr gun (Different engine) The Humber Hornet armed with Malkara missiles might be a werid fun meme vehicle too Type 10 hitomaru, Yeah I'd like to see this too. But before that I'd like to see a better SAM for Japan, Or at least a fixed Type-93. If you weren't afraid of really modern stuff there's things like AJAX and Boxer We still don't have Dardo for Italy. Tonnes of modern Chinese stuff that might convince me to play them.
Great idea with the leopard. I still think that it would be ok to add the "historical" panther 2 with the Pantherr f turret but the Panther 2 hull, though. Maybe both? 😜
Personally I'd add more low tier British and French tanks, things like the Cruiser Mk II with the Close Support Derp and the turreted version of that Low tier French TD with the 25mm
I would like to have the "wiesel" it's an IFV but there are 3 types, Autocannon, AA, or ATM. You can imagine it like a asu 47 but high midtier, because its small with only a 2 man crew and can get up to 80kmh. I would but it at Rank V (7.3) in the SPAA Line with the other 2 Variants as Subclasses
The RDF/LT is a good call, but man am I happy you brought up the M5. Such a great little design, really makes me wish it had actually gotten into service. When it comes to US Light Tanks we also still need the Stingray 1 and 2. The Germans could look into getting the VTS-1, which is essentially a Marder with a 105mm gun mounted externally. A bit like the Expeditionary Tank that way.
@@Spookston sure, but I watched all of your videos of this series and I think I have never seen a vehicle from UK, Italy, Sweden, JApan or China. 5 nations out of 9 is quite restrictive for a series like yours. I’m a fan, but I’m my opinion at least 1 vehicle per nation should be talked about (not per video, but in the whole series)
I would love to see the NM-116 added to war thunder. A norwegian m24 chaffee with an upgraded french 90mm gun, better engine, and better tracks as well as better optics and range finder. In norwegian service as a light tank / tank destroyer.
Actually the M5 GMC like many of the vast number of competing designs in the US was Cut by the Ordnance departments Palma Board. Which looked all the designs and then ruthlessly cutout the waste by examining each and determining which designs had merit, or were just a waste of time, money, resources and materials.
Eh... I'm a bit iffy on the idea of the Leopard B Prototype replacing the Panther II at 6.7. I mean I know it would be comparable to the Ru-251 in terms of performance, but I'm under the opinion that the Ru-251 shouldn't be at 6.7 either. Both of these vehicles should probably be at like 7.0. To replace the Panther II, I'd rather prefer a more historically modeled Panther II, such as the prototype with the placeholder Panther G turret, or a Panther II with the proposed Schmale-Blende turret. These probably wouldn't be as good as the inauthentic Panther II we have currently, which is at 6.7, but they could fill in 6.3 perhaps.
That M5 GMC is adorable, I want it. Also for a suggestion, at 1.0 the Vickers Mark 6 light tank with the 15mm heavy machinegun. Because I love the Vickers chassis, and the 15mm gun is probably the only variant that can be used to fight armour. Also the Vickers Medium Cruiser Mk. I for a 5.0-5.7, and desperately something between the Crusader Mk. I and the Falcon for AA. I've seen a pic of a quad barrel 20mm truck SPAA, and god damn would that be better than the slow firing Crusader Mk. I, even just the triple 20mm Crusader variant would be better...
What about the LTTB? (A USSR light tank with 90mm steel on front sloped such that It has around 160mm front armor and a 400hp engine and weighs 22 tons and uses 85mm Zis S-53 gun) Or T-54 ltwt (T-54 with worse armor but faster and lighter)
Just raising and lowering a tank could allow for the 1 B to be able to peak over some angles and surprise people. Or just holding some angles people might not expect. (I dont figure it goes up or down a lot but some spots just getting like an extra couple inches you could definitely shoot over)
You rarely talk about smaller tech tree. Will you ever do this kind of video but a special "other nations" one ? like for Italy, UK, and France that had many prototypes other the years that could fill some of the huge gaps in their tech tree (im thinking for exemple of the huge 4.7-8.0 gap in French AA)
I include vehicles for minor nations in other videos, and I have two videos dedicated towards minor tech trees specifically. "Fixing Minor Tech Trees" and "More Vehicles That Should Be Added To War Thunder."
Would horizontal tech trees be a good idea? players would start with some vehicles at every tier, and then progress. That would solve the issue with new players getting turned off because of those pre/early ww2 tier 1 vehicles, when they actually saw some ad about Tier 6 vehicles. The Grind system would need a complete overhaul tho.
@@chesterthemolester7976 Which wouldn't help the german 6.7 lineup which lacks a competitive medium tank (since the Panther 2 was hidden from research)
I know it doesn't fill any gaps, but a soviet armored car line that includes the BTR-60, 80, 82A, and maybe a BRDM for low tier would be cool. they would be similar to the r3 but more balanced since they don't really have any armor. if this didn't work out, the 2s14 'Zhalo - S' would be cool to see. it is basically a BTR-70 with a turret and an 85mm cannon that could fire both APFSDS and gun launched ATGMs
Great video, I was curious if you would be interested in covering more in-depth data on vehicles deserving to be added to tech trees which aren't for the big 3, seeing as from a gameplay perspective, the big 3 are the least aching for new content.
I have an idea. Add the 40M Nimrod for the Italian tech tree. An actually not cancerous SPAA for 4.0. Sure, it has your standard 120RPM mounted on an L-62 Chassis. But, we'll get significantly more ammo, and a special Hungarian ammo belt, which is completely comprised of the Toldi's APHEBC shells. A perfect tank for 4.0/4.3 without being as cancerous and blatantly overpowered as the R3-T-20.
we need more for Italy, China, and Japan. I found the Leonardo M60A3 Upgrade Solution for Italy, China has a ton of type59 upgraded models as well as some light vehicles and SPAAs, and Japan could probably get a South Korean Mini-line (similar to South Africa in UK's line).
I think they should add more variants of the m113. Sure there are already a few, but there are plenty interesting mid tier versions that could be added.
i like to see more ww2 prototype tanks such as the "tanque ligero" n rough builted spanish tank maked on an italian cv33 chassis and armed with an 20mm cannon them there is the cv33 "tribio" armed with always an 20mm cannons the fiat 3000 would be an nice tank for low tier armed with an 37mm long barrel cannon
I would like to see the swedish STRV KRV (Kranvagn) in the game. It would make a good addition to the swedish tech tree becouse of the lack of swedish heavy tanks.
The main problem for WT are maps changing. For high tier, with vehicles with good infrared/thermal equipment, these differences between equipment in detection range etc are not matters. Maps are too small to show, which tank/vehicles is better equipped. And anyway, in game thermals in all tanks looks the same, so You driving/shoot/ Swatch enemy practically in the same chassis with different external view.
I would honestly like to see the VK 16.02 Leopard. It was a planned German light tank that would use the 50mm kwk like on the Pumas but the chassis is the only hard part as there wasn’t a prototype.
Nice video bro. But I request u to pls talk about nation with less vehicles like Italy, France , Japan and China. It's been a long time since nation like Italy received a new original vehicle
Don't forget to leave your own suggestions.
Sorry if my voice is more unintelligible than usual, my mouth is messed up rn so normal speech is incredibly difficult.
I would like the centurion mk 13 the finally variant of the centurion
Ideas for France
Renault AMC 6x6 IFV (Elbit UT-30 30mm canon with x2 ATGM and panoramic thermals)
EBR FL3 (normal turret)
AMX 13 with early S530 twin 20mm (SPAA to replace the DCA 40) (no radar)
AMX 10 C (RC hull, but with tracks from P),
the modified french M47 with french 105mm,
the GIAT modified T55 with french 105mm,
the AMX 40 with 105 turret (stabilized)
the AMX 32 with 105 turret (2 of them) (stabilized)
the swiss mowag Shark with french FL20 (stabilized)
the TDM10 (SA50) (french M10 with a SA50)
the modified GMCs with x4 20mm flakvierling (20 made post war)
It would be grate to see the Vickers MBT Mk.IIIM, Chieftain mk11 and Challenger 1 with the Falcon turret. As they all fill gaps in the UK tree.
Great video! A suggestion you may be interested in, the LAV-700 (Cockerill 3030). It's an evolution of the LAV III/Stryker, with a 30 or 40mm cannon, and 1 or 2 BAYONET ATGMs in a fully stabilized turret. It's made in Canada (for WT purposes the UK), and has been exported to Saudi Arabia.
FV4401 Contentious would be a fun event vehicle. It's kind of a mix between an Strv 103 and an M56 scorpion.
‘High-speed tractor’ just sounds like an asetto corsa meme mod.
i think there's a lawnmmower mod
There is the mobility scooter mod
or BT XD
This video gave me an idea. A video exploring vehicles for potential new tech trees :)
Yugoslav techtree?
Visegrad or Polish Tech Tree?
there's already enough tech trees, it's going to be a challenge to find new nations like the ones we have that have many indigenous designs
Czech tech tree?
@@onlyhereformoney175 This could be bypassed by joining nations together (when it makes sense).
it would be nice to see that Italian SPAA like fleshed out so that the r3 can be given its proper performance and moved to an appropriate BR.
An Italian IFV is also way overdue especially seeing as both the freccia and dardo are used in over 200 units with the Italian army. (and before it is said, the dardo definitely used TOW ATGMs when it was first deployed so spikes are not the issue with it's addition)
yes they could add also the prototype centauro pegaso PT whelled spg with the 150mm cannon
@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry the pegaso would be so much fucn thanks to the lighter weight and deep gun. There's also the AVL prototypes that fill the gaps between the fiat 6614 and centauro
It would be nice if they add also the "autocannone 100/17" and the "autocannone 90/53" which are basically 100/17 and 90/53 cannons mounted on a Lancia 3Ro truck or for the last one even on a Breda 52 truck. I feel like the italian tech tree need some trucks haha
You could look into the swedish Mbt project. strv 2000. Or the Kranvagn, a swedish project to make a tank against the IS-3
Pls no the is3 already suffers enough in war thunder
@Giovanni Mendez yes but it faces a lot of heat which it is useless again
1:06 holy crap, that Tiger stopping when he saw you and taking the hit on the front is like a scene from a movie.
I actually hate it when that happens. They make you whiff your otherwise perfectly led shot, and all you can think is "why tf did you stop now"
Could you do a Video that mostly covers anti-aircraft vehicles for nations in dire need of some?
Like France and China
@@tyrannicswinen117 low tier France defo needs more AA, just the gaps between 1.3 and 2.7, but Also 2.7 and 4.7 (I think?) is horrible
@@nitroxdriverfrance7598 definitely, I know France was occupied, but surely they used something other than the CCKW and PTAA before the AMX-13 AA
@@tyrannicswinen117 I'll look it up later and see what could be added
Yes. Skink. The Americans the British the Canadians the Australians and the Indians need the skink. Tell everybody you know. Hell, tell everybody weatherh you know him or not. Skink
Could you do some more minor nation vehicles as well, i just want to see what you can come up with
I'd love to see some Hungarian tanks for sure.
EE-9 Cascavel would be fun to have in WT imo
Would be cool to see some french and Swedish vehicles in thease recaps
The same American light tank jerking off as usual...
Yugoslavia!
"Group B"
*Excited Audi Quattro S1 E2 noises*
Holy shit spookston could you just make a podcast with this audio and other war thunder / tank history videos, I would listen to that all day long
ah yes, the words of wisdom itself.
gaijin: you said lower leopard 1 to 6.3? ok
While they're at it, they should lower the Tiger 2 P & H to 3.3 - 3.7 respectively, because according to the History channel, the Tiger 2's only threat was the Sherman 75, and that's not saying much
@@TR33ZY_CRTM I disagree. I think the KTs should be reserve according to steam discussion forums made by some of the very highly intelligent people there.
@@MasouShizuka Leo 2A7 needs to be at 5.7 to fight the Jumbos
Look, it's hard enough as a M47 operator... I don't need more evil
@@abitofapickle6255 lololol
day 5 of asking spookston for a hand reveal
After he does a hand reveal he should do either a foot reveal or elbow reveal
Go touch some real grass, you dirty fetishist
@@the_burger do you not understand a joke dude
@@the_burger do you not understand a joke dude?
I think you would get a “paw”
I just want panther ii and tiger 10.5 to return as a event like the maus. Its just painful since I started playing before the removal of them bois.
I want these tanks to return PERMANENTLY
@@dalliskal4827
No
@@TheKenji2221 Yes
@@danielsteger8456
No. Their removal has been one of the best decision Gaijin has ever made as they have nothing to do in the game
Same. I want them back in some way or form, even as Premium Tanks. Why? I think they're cool, even if they're kinda useless/inaccurate to history, but who gives a shit about historical accuracy. If Gaijin wanted historical accuracy then tanks like the Porsche Tiger wouldn't be in the game.
Glad to see that vids showing up when they aren't supposed to happens to the bigger youtubers aswell.
I think it’d be nice to see the A45/FV201 added to Britain at 6.0/6.3 to fill the massive gap in the heavy tank line and give the Centurion mk1 an actual line up. It was essentially a Caernarvon with an unstabilized 17 pounder, meant as a universal tank prototype, and was the earliest prototype that led to the development of the Conqueror.
Hey Spookston, could you take a look at the Demolisher tank from Battletech?
What about things like the behemoth or the manticore. Honestly all of the tanks I battletech would be cool to see
Battletech arguably has less consistent art than even 40K. Maybe you're talking about HBS's Battletech specifically and I guess that narrows it down, but still there's not a "definitive" version of basically anything like there is for a Leman Russ or Scorpion. Any judgements that would require looking at armor slopes, ride height, room for gun depression, etc would essentially be for one of like ten entirely different tanks with the same alleged statline. This is in addition to Battletech having a lot of justifications for things in obscure lore that work as excuses for weird design choices and game rules that don't align with reality, like the whole "oh, well, in the future armor got so good that you can't pierce it without breaking it first so that's why it works as a health bar instead of a damage modifier" thing that also explains why nearly every weapon that isn't a laser is rapid-fire. These raise questions in and of themselves, but it wouldn't be fair to judge its designs without factoring them in.
Plus I don't wanna put words in his mouth but I think Battletech might just kinda, like, make him angry. The treatment of tanks vs mechs is hilariously one-sided. Like a video dissecting Battletech's underlying logic would probably have more material.
@@northropi2027 while the arts inconsistent, there is a general consensus on the general appearance, and the specs are pretty static and we'll defined
@@sparepartssparepartsempori519 while it's notable for specifying that its AC/20s fire 185mm shells at a low rate when so many other units just leave it ambiguous, the problem is that the general consensus still isn't specific enough to get things like the slope of the front plate or height beyond it being less than or equal to one level or 7m (which is a wide margin for tanks). Really all we have is a four-track twin-gun 80 tonne 54kph tank with abnormally short effective range and no coax MG. Further design details are beyond the depth of what I could get by browsing Sarna.
Past that, like, yeah, there's some common themes- a dome-shaped turret and over-under guns- but the shape of the UFP, ride height, room for breech depression/elevation, engine intakes, and so on require specific references, and keep in mind a lot of fandoms feel strongly about this, so whatever one you choose is going to yield some salt along the lines of "oh, that was the *bad* art!" In addition, of course, to the usual pile of comments saying that it was a genius design either way and we should build two million IRL. You kinda got to design the best version of the Demolisher around those common themes by yourself if you want it to actually make a satisfying video, which I guess is a valid approach, but doesn't really solve the problem of inconsistent official art.
As much as I'd think that'd be cool. But feel somewhat out of place, ot at least see something niche that I'm in to.
I feel like I could talk about tanks with this guy besides warthunder all day
I really like the work you put into these videos, it feels like you try to do your best everytime, which feels really rare nowadays in youtube :)
You may have said this before elsewhere, but I would love to see the TOG II* in War Thunder. World of tanks made it memey, but they also didn't give it accurate armor. Although knowing the reputation it has, they would probably make it a Premium and not a tech tree tank.
The Spähpanzer I C is also something i would like to see in the Game maybe somewhere between 7.7 and 8.3
7.7-8.3? The Spahpanzer I C is arguably even less effective than the Ru-251. Less armour, less speed, similar firepower. It should be at like 6.7.
Would be cool if Gaijin would add some more things for the italian tech tree. They can add for aviation the CANT Z 501, the CANT Z 506 and maybe the Imam Ro 44.
For tanks would be cool to see some "milk truck" like the Autocannone da 65/17 on Morris truck and the 100/17 on Lancia 3Ro.
For the navy there are a ton of things that they can add like a lots of battleship more cruiser or destroyer.
i really like that leopard idea that one should really be added
What a surprise. A German tank would be a good idea to add on an overfilled tree
ANOTHER LEO
It would be a terrible idea, we need less HEATFS speedy Bois at 6.7, not more
@@quartzlandaker5664 you either jump on the bandwagon or you get run over by it. I like the leo 1B idea
@@TheKenji2221 Instead of m48 then
I just want the m109 paladin :( and maybe the Tos-1 buratino
yes I think next thing for ground will be artillery
Was the paladin capable of direct fire?
To be fair, the Type 75 SPH is already in the game in the Japanese tech tree, so the base of the Paladin is already here.
@@crazyadam9281 There's video of groups practicing for it. I don't know if it has a dedicated gunsight though.
yeah just add random shit at this point, doesnt matter
I really wish to see the x1a2 and Osório MBT
* about fv215 heavy gun tank *
gaijin: we cannot add the tank, being that miss historical archives of finished tank (photos exist, showing the almost full tank)
* about panther 2 with 88mm and tiger 2 105mm *
gaijin: accepted
You know that Panther 2 andq Tiger 105 is removed?
@@radonsider9692going to delete after years. and since 2015 community says to gaijin add more REAL tank, like the fv 215, the obj 704, the su 101...
"Specially to fill gaps on tech tree's" = picks the most fleshed out tree's.
>Gets tons of filler prototypes...
>Another Leopard suggested for smooth brains to plox 6.3br
>Puma Cancer IFV jingling in the snail's coin purse
Stingray folder that should've existed a long time ago: EXCUSE ME WHAT THE FUCK
Funny stuff: Leopard I B exists in World of Tanks as the Italian Tier IX Progetto Standard B, even it's story matches except, is not Italian at all except some components and futurible adoption by that time of development, and instead of hydro-pneumatic suspension has that auto-reloading mock up.
its also in the blitz version (i think) is the tier 9 leapord prototype B before the leo 1
@@313A9 It is indeed as, as far as i know, the top tiers were added in Blitz if not the whole branch. (Console now is missing Tiers I and II because C-B decided they were "boring")
"Wait, it's all US tanks?"
"Always has been"
Yea sure we need tanks for the biggest tech trees in the game. Great idea
You should do one were you try and fix some of the minor texh trees like Italy and france
@@derkaiser9881 ya the ones that need more shit are the minor nations. Germany has like 2 major gaps in the tech tree and same with the u.s.
France and italy have no ifvs and have a giant gap in aa
@@acuramattb4525 and many of there low tier vehicles are American vehicles
@@gandsproductions5105 what? Italy has like 3-4 American tanks at around 3.3-4.0, and then some American jets at top tier... and France is just shit.
*proposition* : for the one's that like the HSTVL , there is a similar tank that did exist (and that could be placed at the same br as the HSTVL). im talking about the HIMAG( High Mobility Agility) . it was , like the HSTVL a prototype , this time that appeird in 1978 , it still ad a 3 man crew , it was twice havier because it was bigger in hight and was more large than is little brother. it ad the same weapon , ad the same autonomy as the HSTVL , but was cappable to go faster in practice (97KM/H for the HIMAG contrary to the HSTVL's 83KM/H)thx to is 12 cylinder diesel continental AVCR 1360 (1500 ch/ 1118.6 KW). the only hole about this tank is that is armor was not comunicated , but its probable that it ad the same armor or slightly fikker armor , since it was slightly bigger , but was 2 times hevier that the HSTVL .
(sorry for mi righting , im not english and im still learning )
The HIMAG unfortunately wouldn't be a practical vehicle for War Thunder, it was only capable of carrying six rounds of ammunition at a time.
@@Spookston oh , thats a information i diden't had in mi book. well now yeah the HIMAG isen't a good idea
yugoslavias crazy frankenstein tanks and their improved versions of american and US vehilce just add em like was done with the south africans. They can go into either US or russian tree
Yeah like the m4 with t-34 motor or the from you mentioned big gun M4 but also it would be cool to have the yugoslav prototype of the heavy t34-85
They have enough upgrades and domestic vehicles that they could fill their own tech tree
@@Priceeee Somewhat if we leave all the variants in, otherwise they will just end up like china or lesser italy especially in lower tier where it will be a mix of german, US, and Italian tanks and improvised vehicles, their navy would also be a mess as low tier could only be improvised gunboats and disguised raiders which are questionable in terms of implementation. Otherwise they would also have major holes with in parts of trees without the variants, their helicopter might as well just be russian with a few french thrown in while their aircraft would by horribly empty or with only stock british and russian planes (and few of those) with rank V (or maybe high IV) being their original strike aircraft and light fighters
@@cropathfinder don't care add Yugoslav tech tree
@@leonst.7471 but gajin cares and about how much they can milk whales on horribly overpriced p2w items
I'd like to see Sentinel tank added.
It's the only tank that We designed and produced down here and despite its obvious problems it was a surprisingly modern vehicle for a 1940 design.
AC IA 6pdr gun
AC IB 25pdr gun
AC III 2 pdr gun (Different engine)
The Humber Hornet armed with Malkara missiles might be a werid fun meme vehicle too
Type 10 hitomaru, Yeah I'd like to see this too. But before that I'd like to see a better SAM for Japan, Or at least a fixed Type-93.
If you weren't afraid of really modern stuff there's things like AJAX and Boxer
We still don't have Dardo for Italy.
Tonnes of modern Chinese stuff that might convince me to play them.
Could you take a look at some of the invented tanks in WOTB? I think that would be an interesting crossover
Great idea with the leopard. I still think that it would be ok to add the "historical" panther 2 with the Pantherr f turret but the Panther 2 hull, though. Maybe both? 😜
Hell yeah the tank I wanted added in the last video of the series the RDF/LT
TR-85M1 would be a nice addition
I’d like to see the Cadillac Stingray.
Good vid lovinnit!
Personally I'd add more low tier British and French tanks, things like the Cruiser Mk II with the Close Support Derp and the turreted version of that Low tier French TD with the 25mm
I still wish for a Puma and/or a Panzerhaubitze 2000 :/
0:28 WOT players: Hey! I've seen this one before
WT players: What do you mean? it's brand new
U god damn rigth
Yes, the Standard B
I just want that the Panther G could only get extra 10mm in the front plate
Always good to see some good T25 footage. I loved that tank before it started living in uptier hell.
One tank that I would like is the Sturmgashutz IV around 4.3 5.0
You should do a "Everything wrong with Just Cause 4's Vehicle Design" because they have a good variety of tanks and other vehicles
I really wish we could get more smaller nations ww2 tanks especially Italy and france could need more around 5.0
I would like to have the "wiesel" it's an IFV but there are 3 types, Autocannon, AA, or ATM. You can imagine it like a asu 47 but high midtier, because its small with only a 2 man crew and can get up to 80kmh. I would but it at Rank V (7.3) in the SPAA Line with the other 2 Variants as Subclasses
The RDF/LT is a good call, but man am I happy you brought up the M5. Such a great little design, really makes me wish it had actually gotten into service.
When it comes to US Light Tanks we also still need the Stingray 1 and 2. The Germans could look into getting the VTS-1, which is essentially a Marder with a 105mm gun mounted externally. A bit like the Expeditionary Tank that way.
I hope Gaijin adds some Brazilian Cold War armoured vehicles...
I absolutely agree, but the problem is because dont have a nation in game available for brazilian armored cars and tanks
@@crossl4055 Just place "South American nations" and you can add a lot.
Love how 3/4 of the tanks in this series are American... you would do better calling it “Which American vehicles should be added”
America and Germany does not need more tanks RN compared to, 9h I don't. Know, nations that actually fukin need them
My area of expertise lies in American tanks. It isn't shocking that I feel more confident suggesting the vehicles I am most familiar with.
@@Spookston sure, but I watched all of your videos of this series and I think I have never seen a vehicle from UK, Italy, Sweden, JApan or China.
5 nations out of 9 is quite restrictive for a series like yours.
I’m a fan, but I’m my opinion at least 1 vehicle per nation should be talked about (not per video, but in the whole series)
Could you focus more on minor factions ?
Germany and the US trees are already overfilled
I would love to see the NM-116 added to war thunder. A norwegian m24 chaffee with an upgraded french 90mm gun, better engine, and better tracks as well as better optics and range finder. In norwegian service as a light tank / tank destroyer.
Id love to see the T-84 Oplot and the M-84D
Yes I love when you do these videos
Brooo that thumbnail tank is like something I’d make in sprocket lmaooo
These are some good suggestions. I think the 1B would be especially welcome in Germany's tree at 6.7 due to the sparse options in that BR.
I personally would absolutly love to see the german wiesel in game, as both 20mm and TOW variant. Beside them, the Luchs and Marder would also be fun.
Actually the M5 GMC like many of the vast number of competing designs in the US was Cut by the Ordnance departments Palma Board. Which looked all the designs and then ruthlessly cutout the waste by examining each and determining which designs had merit, or were just a waste of time, money, resources and materials.
Eh... I'm a bit iffy on the idea of the Leopard B Prototype replacing the Panther II at 6.7. I mean I know it would be comparable to the Ru-251 in terms of performance, but I'm under the opinion that the Ru-251 shouldn't be at 6.7 either. Both of these vehicles should probably be at like 7.0. To replace the Panther II, I'd rather prefer a more historically modeled Panther II, such as the prototype with the placeholder Panther G turret, or a Panther II with the proposed Schmale-Blende turret. These probably wouldn't be as good as the inauthentic Panther II we have currently, which is at 6.7, but they could fill in 6.3 perhaps.
That M5 GMC is adorable, I want it.
Also for a suggestion, at 1.0 the Vickers Mark 6 light tank with the 15mm heavy machinegun. Because I love the Vickers chassis, and the 15mm gun is probably the only variant that can be used to fight armour.
Also the Vickers Medium Cruiser Mk. I for a 5.0-5.7, and desperately something between the Crusader Mk. I and the Falcon for AA. I've seen a pic of a quad barrel 20mm truck SPAA, and god damn would that be better than the slow firing Crusader Mk. I, even just the triple 20mm Crusader variant would be better...
Any thoughts on the M7 Medium tank?
Yeah, i think they build 1 prototype tank, and will fit at 2.7 or 3.0
What about the LTTB?
(A USSR light tank with 90mm steel on front sloped such that It has around 160mm front armor and a 400hp engine and weighs 22 tons and uses 85mm Zis S-53 gun)
Or T-54 ltwt (T-54 with worse armor but faster and lighter)
Just raising and lowering a tank could allow for the 1 B to be able to peak over some angles and surprise people. Or just holding some angles people might not expect. (I dont figure it goes up or down a lot but some spots just getting like an extra couple inches you could definitely shoot over)
It had a hydropneumatic suspension like a Challenger. Nothing with steering the height of the vehicle.
Im still waiting for the Tonk or the Bob semple
Both of them are available as user made tanks on WT Live.
The uparmored command Char 2C Normandie at 1.3/1.7, and the Char 2C bis with the 155 mm howitzer filling the Tier 1 premium behemoth slot for France
It would be nice to see another one of these videos for the more minor nations instead of the big 3
I would love to see some German IFVs. Maybe even the Wiesel
Hell yea to the wiesel be just like the L3 but with speed.
You rarely talk about smaller tech tree. Will you ever do this kind of video but a special "other nations" one ? like for Italy, UK, and France that had many prototypes other the years that could fill some of the huge gaps in their tech tree (im thinking for exemple of the huge 4.7-8.0 gap in French AA)
I include vehicles for minor nations in other videos, and I have two videos dedicated towards minor tech trees specifically. "Fixing Minor Tech Trees" and "More Vehicles That Should Be Added To War Thunder."
Would horizontal tech trees be a good idea? players would start with some vehicles at every tier, and then progress. That would solve the issue with new players getting turned off because of those pre/early ww2 tier 1 vehicles, when they actually saw some ad about Tier 6 vehicles. The Grind system would need a complete overhaul tho.
so you know spook what happened to the rdf/lt :troll:
The leo is a great idea. It could be put at 7.3 instead of the one we currently have
Then we wouldn't have a reason to add it. The Leopard 1 B would be a good replacement for the Panther 2 at 6.7, just as Spookston said
@@Serkay64 I would agree if would still be researchable but it isnt. I would rather move the Panther G into the Panther Group with D and F variant.
@@chesterthemolester7976 Which wouldn't help the german 6.7 lineup which lacks a competitive medium tank (since the Panther 2 was hidden from research)
Spookston wanting more light tanks and move tanks to lower brs? I would've never guessed -_-
I great idea would be to add Argentina and/or Brazil.
I know it doesn't fill any gaps, but a soviet armored car line that includes the BTR-60, 80, 82A, and maybe a BRDM for low tier would be cool. they would be similar to the r3 but more balanced since they don't really have any armor. if this didn't work out, the 2s14 'Zhalo - S' would be cool to see. it is basically a BTR-70 with a turret and an 85mm cannon that could fire both APFSDS and gun launched ATGMs
What do you think to the idea of the Stage 1 FV4005?
"MOM SPOOKSTON MADE A NEW VIDEO HEAT UP THE TENDIES"
Great video, I was curious if you would be interested in covering more in-depth data on vehicles deserving to be added to tech trees which aren't for the big 3, seeing as from a gameplay perspective, the big 3 are the least aching for new content.
I'm not sure how historically accurate a panther f with a kwk 43 would be but that'd be cool it a 6.3 or maybe 6.7 medium tank
I would like to see some removed vehicles to come back. Even if they were removed for balance, like the Maus.
I have an idea. Add the 40M Nimrod for the Italian tech tree. An actually not cancerous SPAA for 4.0. Sure, it has your standard 120RPM mounted on an L-62 Chassis. But, we'll get significantly more ammo, and a special Hungarian ammo belt, which is completely comprised of the Toldi's APHEBC shells. A perfect tank for 4.0/4.3 without being as cancerous and blatantly overpowered as the R3-T-20.
Good use of Blade Runner music.
What about the Brazilian Stuart upgrades?
Leopard 1 B looks exactly like a thing called Prototipo Standard B in WOT, in Italian tech tree 🤔😯
Yeah, *because it is*
we need more for Italy, China, and Japan. I found the Leonardo M60A3 Upgrade Solution for Italy, China has a ton of type59 upgraded models as well as some light vehicles and SPAAs, and Japan could probably get a South Korean Mini-line (similar to South Africa in UK's line).
As an avid M56 player, the M5 looks like so much fun
I think they should add more variants of the m113. Sure there are already a few, but there are plenty interesting mid tier versions that could be added.
i like to see more ww2 prototype tanks such as the "tanque ligero" n rough builted spanish tank maked on an italian cv33 chassis and armed with an 20mm cannon
them there is the cv33 "tribio" armed with always an 20mm cannons
the fiat 3000 would be an nice tank for low tier armed with an 37mm long barrel cannon
I would like to see the swedish STRV KRV (Kranvagn) in the game. It would make a good addition to the swedish tech tree becouse of the lack of swedish heavy tanks.
The main problem for WT are maps changing. For high tier, with vehicles with good infrared/thermal equipment, these differences between equipment in detection range etc are not matters.
Maps are too small to show, which tank/vehicles is better equipped.
And anyway, in game thermals in all tanks looks the same, so You driving/shoot/ Swatch enemy practically in the same chassis with different external view.
I would honestly like to see the VK 16.02 Leopard. It was a planned German light tank that would use the 50mm kwk like on the Pumas but the chassis is the only hard part as there wasn’t a prototype.
Too much few to be put into the game. It counts as paper tank.
@@ANDREALEONE95 Yup no prototype, not even a full scale wooden mock up.
Nice video bro. But I request u to pls talk about nation with less vehicles like Italy, France , Japan and China. It's been a long time since nation like Italy received a new original vehicle
Italy really could need some atg trucks to bolster their ww2 tanks and even replace the r3 in it´s BR
@@leonst.7471 I guess we need some top tier tanks like some ifv
I mean sweden hasent gotten a plane in like 6 month(not counting shitty prems)
Personally I want to see the M728 CEV (Essentially an equivalent to Centurion AVRE), especially so we can finally recreate Waco
love this series
I’m just hoping France gets an M50 Mk. II for 5.3 or 5.7 at some point
They should add the skorpion G
They won't gonna add unimportant paper project tank
that's a paper tank so it doesn't count.
I would love to have dome more interesting tanks from outside the main nations, like Polish PT-91 or Hungarian 44M
What about SU-100M1?
(100mm D-10 gun on T-34-85 chassis)
Think of an HSTV-L that isnt coked up
he knows the funny