How “NOT TO LOSE” playing light tanks - War Thunder Video Tutorials
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2024
- Light tanks are not the easiest vehicles to play, so here's some tips and tricks to show you how to do well in them!
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but you dont get research points by writing in chat and capturing a single point
you do get a bonus for winni g
How to win
Rule number 1
-Go play Russians
Rule number 2
-unlock T34
Rrule number 3
-You dont need any rules anymore
+Tomiko931 T34 - A Point & Click Adventure Game
***** Requires only a 2 IQ and is available for 1+.
i know right lol. I got frustratred playing German. Switched to Russian... T34 spam for days! Agile, fast, great reverse speed, etc... Now time for T54 spam
+Shizuku Mizutani No longer with brit kit, so long as you have an achillies for early days or the comet APDS :D T-34 must take care now.
Those things cause me no end of grief.
You helped your team capping a base, spotting an enemy (although that won't work if your team can't speak english - wink wink), and running around trying to attack with the artillery and being a typewriter.
For your heroic deeds you get... let's say 500 RP. GG
(Have fun grinding for your next tank which can be a few ten thousand, later on even hundred thousand RP)
This isn't WoT, you get nothing for spotting and typing in chat... (maybe with a spotting system like in Battlefield? Pressing Q and stuff? Idk)
Right now the only use for light tanks is that it can flank quite well, and pop some shots into a tank's back. But for that purpose I would recommend something like a Hellcat.
The t-32 is 270k :(
+TredBobek Well said
+TredBobek Exactly what I was thinking. Well said
+TredBobek You are well spoken, but even then, you can still use your other tanks in your line to research, say you use your light tank for the beginning of the battle to cap and alert, you could J out or get killed, and have enough points for another tank down the line, you got the points from capping as well as any other points you get from killing. It's why we have multiple crew slots, to use whatever tank is necessary for the situation at hand. (RB, Arcade can go die in a ditch. and there's no point in sim'ing in a Light)
Jet_725 To be honest I use that tactic (go in with a weak vehicle for fast points). But for that purpose I use my AA vehicles (the american half tracks are quite fast enough, and I usually don't encounter enemies when I reach the cap points. And it can use artillery as a smoke screen/attack move). AA is cheaper
(for the record, I only play RB)
how not to lose in tanks: play mighty stronk tonk t10-m.
how to not lose in planes play mighty flying tonk yak3p.
+Lars Sassen This was the point of the video, to not say russian bias again and I do pretty poorly in russian vehicles, the person that can make a vehicle OP is the player itself.
+Dan Badea OOOH SNAP!
+Dan Badea tanks rounds make tanks op as well ._.
+Dan Badea so you are saying that Russians are OP?
+Dan Badea Your probably not the well acquainted with the Russians then because they are in fact over performing.
this is more like : How not to get kills in Light Tank
+paperitgel98 well in a light tank, you #1 goal is to really spot, not kill
+TheRed Hawk Yeah, but there is no mechanic to benefit spotting in the game, so all a light tank can do is to cap the point, retreat and wait for the rest of the game to die.
+TheRed Hawk randoms can not be trusted, ever. A lot of none English speaking players play on the eu server, giving your efforts to inform your team random results.
One way to remedy this problem would be giving light tanks the ability to get an accurate marker on whatever you aim at, like how shooting an enemy pings the position.
This ability has to work on the ground as well, or else it would work like a scanner.
+paperitgel98 There is artillery which you can call in. otherwise yeah.
Bambus174 not really, as the guide described, you can basically become a annoying bug by flanking and shooting them in the ass or ambushing, or if you have a good gun like the Walker Bulldog or PT-76, you can snipe
there are still so many things you can do
I love how they always address the Russian bias
+BRYCE THOMPSON Gaigin is a Russian company, that would explain why they use the Russian bias or to some people favor the Russian tech tree.
+WW1 Flying Ace 5 But it still doesn't explain it, living in Britain I wish the british tanks were fixed along with making the germans what they are supposed to be
+TheMarineGamer IGGHQ not to mention a buff to the 76mm gun on american tanks.
+Cowboycomando54 YOU FOCKIGN WOT?! buffed? are you for real? i bet you play russians and scream everytime something american kills you.
+TheMarineGamer IGGHQ What do you mean with "fixed"?
How to play light tanks.
Step 1 Choose american tech tree on the far left.
Step 2 Have fun using the M2A4 and the M3/M3A1
Step 3 You have now reached tier 2
Step 4 Play using the M5A1 and M22
Step 5 Why cant I pen any soviet tank anymore?
Step 6 CYKA DAVAI T34 100mm effective armor KV-1 200mm effective armor
Step 7 Get one shot every game your mobility is useless because even AA can easily kill you when you cant even scratch soviet tanks with your 100mm pen at close range
Step 8 Notice that for some reason T34 are almost as fast and even have faster reload than the M24 while at the same time having better armor and gun
Step 9 Welcome to the Soviet Tech Tree
+Ulim151 And to top it all off. USA light tanks are so fucking slow compared to medium brit tanks its incredible. And all the video is saying is BE USELESS AND KEEP IT THAT WAY.
+Ulim151 lol just got my locust yesterday i dont seem to be having problems penning things...
+dubravko ostic (Conquest) As soon as you'll getanother tank,you'll do like every American player before you.
ye i get that :P but i only played like 3 battles that were not sim
dubravko ostic Even in sim,your shells will bounce on other tanks,like all of them.
Other comments have said it, but the game could really use a mechanic to reward spotting assists. People just won't play as a team unless you incentivize them.
+Spyder Seven There is
There is a Award called "Intelligence" for marking out a hostile tank and getting him bombed
There is also "According to Intelligence" for bombing a marked tank
+DoctorEris yea but he says not to use your arty strike on the tank, and rather just type out its location in chat
+DoctorEris Sorry, I always forget AB exists. I don't think there's a good way in RB
+Storm Zerx Actually he did say to call the strike on it. You just can't shoot at him because it will give your position away.
+DoctorEris because that 100 lion reward on those awards DEFINITELY gets people to play light tanks and spot for bombers, instead of actually playing med/heavy tanks and getting kills
How to play light tanks 101. Step one, dont play arcade, step 2, win.
Step Three, flank the Enemy spawn and Shoot them all in the back.
+MC_ Sch0ck27 you... I like you
+MC_ Sch0ck27 but do remember that spawning has a 10 sec invulerability
+GRIZZLY_GUY Step 5 Notice how Kv and T-34 are invincible to your shots no matter where you hit. Then get 1 shot by them.
+MC_ Sch0ck27 Works well for T-34 -85s as well I always seem to find them in the enemy spawn point
The game IS unbalanced its a fact... 1 battle rating difference is to big and 7.7 tanks should be in their own separate bracket they should actually be 8.0 or 8.1 rating. It's not even fun to play as ww2 tank and meet post-war and 1955 tanks.
Amen.
+Triplaglol Amen indeed.
+Triplaglol Sing it Brother. no fun when your Tiger 2 meets a Soviet T10.
Ken N Or when you Tiger 1 is teired alongside Tiger II's.
hah! I face down Tigers in my M3A1 Stuart! And I win.
learn? pfff
not blame my team? pff
russian bias obviously
Will you ever make a GOOD match making system?
***** that would be too easy
+Sconeikiin
The BR system isn't bad, the problem is the +-1.0 BR deviation. That means in a 5.7 IS-1, you can either be matched up with PzIVs, T-34s and Shermans - or King Tigers, T-44s, Pershings... Such a bullshit.
Not only the BR system i'm talking about. The fact that you go in a realistic battle, you have no idea which country you are going against and there is no way to choose which map would you prefer the most to play on. It's just awful. Sometimes you go on the same map 4-5 times in a row..
*****
The tier system is absolutely no different than the BR system. It just got renamed.
Sconeikiin
That I complete agree on. Seeing Russian tanks in Tunisia and Pershings in Poland is not very realistic.
"I know it is hard not to blame the game on the game's balance, russian bias and your teamates"
Holy crap, tell it like it is man! :D
They need to add a good MM where your level matters cuz some players are complete autism
Alex Duper
like me
recon isint a valued play style there is no reward for it please fix this so you get a reward for spotting that is actually a viable way to go through the ranks.
All of these points rely on a team actually working together. Something that doesn't happen 50% of the time....
90% of the time...
Thats a more accurate figure, yes xD
This might actually work if you allowed the binoculars to place markers on the map for friendlies by clicking.
Sitting their typing out bullshit is how you die. Create an automatic reporting system for enemy locations.
Preferably one that does not lock onto the enemy but simply places a marker where you binocs are pointed.
Could for the love of god put in some better spawn protection.
Agreed.
+Cowboycomando54 They already said that they believe spawncamping to be a valid tactic, so it probably won't happen.
They are also probably concerned about recreating the AAA mess at airfields such as exists in RB planes. Planes need not fight, if you are losing just hang out at your base.
+Cowboycomando54 isn't being invincible enough to kill all people around you if you do not move good enough?
If there is say more than3 people at your base you probably only got a 3rd or less of your team alive and the enemy team heavily overwelmed you. what's the difference of immediately being blown up at the gate out of the spawn or at the spawn and than dying 5 seconds later? The only difference I can see is some maps will allow you to take your newly spawned locust and run the other way hidding.... which isn't worth all the effort to fix...
However in the newer maps... well 1 of the desert maps they gave the options to spawn further back. This basically makes spawn camping nearly impossible unless you are stupid enough to spawn in an area heavily contested with enemies. (not sure about you but I often ask for team mates if they know if enemies are close by/ near a spawn point before spawning)
R4V3-0N I am talking about the little shits that drive for half the match to sit in the back of the spawn so they can get kills, the ones that never play the objective.
Cowboycomando54 You could just shoot them before they reach spawn in the first place. If they are getting on your nerves by knocking out the enemy team at their base, obviously something is working.
Spawncamp is a double-edged sword that is sometimes viable. It keeps the momentum going the way things have already been going. If your team isn't killing anyone in the first place, there is no one respawning for the camper to kill. If a team is winning, however, they can make it incredibly challenging to advance.
If spawn was protected, how many AA guns would bother to leave it? You have pretty much made AA players invincible.
However, personally I would sooner have a game where people are complain about spawncamp by enemies than a game where spawn is so safe that players don't bother to leave, which is the case in Air RB.
Well, I suppose I'll say something that has as much sense as this video:
"ATTACK THE D POINT!"
Morale of the story: Use your allies as a meat shield.
How not to lose playing light tanks:
Don't play light tanks.
(Automated voice)
"Bravo!"
"Awesome!"
"We'll done!"
"Excellent!"
Jacob Hardy
Getting Down!
Sorry!
+dubravko ostic (Conquest) "Gramercy!"
"heading for landing!
the sad thing is that even though it is obvious that there is a rushans bias in a plane instead of fixing it so they came make a good game they joke about it this is sad
How is it "obvious"? Oh and its spelled like this: Russian.
+WarpBeacon well most yacks can out turn and out speed eneythig in its br they put out eney fire and there guns over preform and it is like 4in the morning so don't cretek my spelling
+Sam George While most 109s can outclimb most Yaks. I still don't see how is it "obvious".
+Sam George they are mid-low altitude fighters what do you expect
+Sam George Dude, then Don't try turning against a plane MADE specifically FOR turning. if you are gonna fight a Yak, BnZ it, Energy fight it, they can't climb worth a dime (OMG I am giving actual tactics, enough of the mindless turning you arcade scwubs) Their guns UNDER perform, I used a Yak for lolz and My god, I felt like I was shooting rubber bullets, I couldn't kill any German planes, which mind you, are made of Paper.
>having to rely on your team in a FTP MMO.
+woodman_victory
War Thunder is not an MMO. It's an arena shooter.
+Plank Hill How isn't it an MMO with approx. 8 million players, to me that spells MMO.
FireWarrior2013 Going by that logic Halo, CoD, Battlefield, and GTA are MMOs too.
+Plank Hill In a sense, they are. After all doesn't MMO stand for Massively Multiplayer Online?
FireWarrior2013 A massively multiplayer online game is an online game which is capable of supporting large numbers of players simultaneously in the same instance. 32 or 64 players is not a large number of players. MMOs are games like Planetside 2 or WoW, where hundreds or thousands of players play on the same server.
Ok come on if the game is so balanced then please make a tutorial for german tank up from BR 6.7
+TheJoker1432 ye i find it annoying even playing my is2mod44
fighting mice that is
roni pala well can an IS 2 kill a Leo? YES
can a Tiger 2 kill a T10m? NO
^
+TheJoker1432 DO AS THIS MAN SAYS!
+TheJoker1432 That's because the Leopard has ~75mm max armor and a reload time of
0:25
RUSSIAN BIAS CONFIRMED
Sarcasm. Something that a lot of people just don't get.
WarpBeacon
I feel like that could be interpreted in at least two different ways. Are you saying I'm being sarcastic, or Gaijin?
+WarpBeacon Just because they ridicule it does not mean that it doesn't exist.
+BigMek456 Ok, lets determine what exactly are we talking about here. Please, define: Russian bias.
+Ray Liu Gaijin, obviously.
Clearly Gaijin have never played their own game.
Oh mah gawd he just said Russian bias in a channel owned by gaijin
How “NOT TO LOSE” playing light tanks?
Play T-50. No way you can lose.
It should also be noted that a lot of the tactics in this video work well for the M18 Hellcat, since it has a lot of the characteristics of a light tank such as high speed and mobility at the cost of poor armor protection, though unlike most light tanks it also has a decent gun for its tier so when it does engage, it stands a better chance of doing significant damage and therefore can be more useful at taking out high-value targets such as someone trying to cap a friendly control point.
Very good guide! I'm looking forward to getting a good pc so i can play again.
Wow. Well that'll help me in my grind!
+KKTrain Springer grinding foou days!
This is helpful.A lot.Already played one battle,and we won
perfect guide! much needed, funny and true... i have done all these mistakes many time. just cus my team suckass and dont know how to cap and win
The problem with light tanks is the teamwork they require! A light tank "spotting" the enemy is of no use if your allies are ignoring your messages. Also you dont get any RP or Credits for "spotting"... A solution to this would be to give light tanks the abilty to mark enemys wiht the Binoculars.( The enemy tank would apear on the map and get the little red indicator near its position, like if he got shot at) and give RP and Credits for a Spott and the assist for the kill. Just an Idea... what do you others think??
Pls let me know your thoughts about light tanks.
very helpful
They should do one of these videos for casemated tank destroyers; time and again I find them sitting in their little hidey-holes not paying any attention to their sides or rear, making them an easy kill without a turret to address unexpected threats to their flanks.
This is great! XD Love it. o7
Regarding the cap, I absolutely agree, works every time! When we have Ash River domination, just go straight to the cap with a Crusader, then drive straight (but carefully) down the cliff. Anyone who had a shot at you no longer does, and you are in an area with few tanks and a good flanking position. Make your way to spawn and profit =).
Also, people here are so obsessed with the grind. Can't you just care about whether your team wins that specific game or not? It is nice if you play SB so that you have access to whatever vehicles are in each rotation, or RB events. Other than that, it isn't like higher tier aircraft get more of an advantage in their matches. For a long time the Shinden was incredibly hard to maneuver. There are still vehicles that are hard to play stock. T3 and T4 is really where the heart of WWII vehicles are anyway.
I cant tell if these really help because these sorts of videos tend to get memed in so much
This is one example of a battle, in which a specific situation has occurred, no-one is lagging (ms or FPS), no-one has aircraft, no-one has back ups, the enemy is blind, no-one is using low graphics settings for an advantage, no-one is camping, no-one is AFK, no-one is teamkilling, there is a team that looks at chat, no-one has been up-tiered and all the enemies are lemmings. What does this prove?
+King Llamanom this cant happen
very useful i like it :D
Step #1: don't follow Gaijins tips
This is good for shoot peaking very quick
+rep for Teamplay support!
i have question will rocket tanks be reaserable and have they own line
So this might mean never use a light tank in an arcade mode because you will get eliminated easily because the enemy can easily spot you and you will lose your light tank advantages like hiding, flanking, scouting etc
how about yall fix the battle ratings of the tanks I mean a t25 with a 6.0 going against 6.7 and 7.0s? or the tiger h1 going against is2s. untill then I think I'll wait on playing this
1:09 i did something risky like doing a 360 no-scope on a M3 Stuart and it was all worth it.
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I like the new tactics that are being taught here but, these things will only work in competitive games such as thunder league (I.e. a team needs to cap fast so they can get an advantage over a more skilled team). People just don't get enough for playing the game right (scouting, spotting etc...)
The most fun you can have in light tanks is using the low profile ones like the M22 in over teird games so you can piss people off when you run circles around their heavy tanks. Fun fact that most people don't seem to know the 37mm on the m22 can pen Kingtigers and so on it's pretty damn funny
I want a video with Leopard I
(practicly ununesable tank for 99% of all maps of warthunder. In 99,999% of all battles (as matching up to enemy. they only need to aim at you. You need to aim at spots without the HEATFS. And the mobility you get for the sacrificed armor is doubtedly thick enough to even stand up to its much older brother Panther II (Who is better manueverable, has better acceleration, holds speed better, has much better cannon if hitting enemy from side = instakill .. with leopard.. seeing enemy from back means you are dead because before he will spot you you won't be able to kill him. or you just show him where you are hopefully at least taking out some important module.. or any module at all.)
And this is why they shud add french tanks imagine a amx 13 105 just sweeping around the map unloading it 105 mm drums
I prefer to Blitzkrieg B with my T-34 because that a medium light tank such fast. Such good.
It'd be nice if there was more incentive to play as a light tank other than being target practice for enemy tanks. Say for instance giving them an actual spotting mechanic that's somewhat already built into the game? I don't normally play arcade tanks but perhaps players in light tanks should get a spotting bonus if they "designate" an enemy tank and in realistic it would just cause the red spotting arrow to appear over them without actually having to engage with your cannon since in most cases that's suicide in a light tank, at least according to this strategy guide right?
Typing at your team isn't always an option since things can go sideways really fast and clicking on the map doesn't always get everyone's attention, but putting a giant red arrow over them like when you're shooting at someone usually does the trick. Also if you're likely only going to be getting spotting bonuses it'd be nice if you get a small rp multiplier on modules for that specific light tank but it shouldn't be too great otherwise you'll speed through them too quickly. I know that later light tanks are easier to get kills with so the multiplier should get smaller the better the cannon/ammo types you get available to you. That's just my suggestion on how light tanks should work though, but honestly I'd rather be in a normal tank than a light tank since there's no real advantage aside from how fast you can race across the map and die with little to no reward.
by playing in a light tank mentioned by gaijin, it is almost impossible to grind/gain anything from it. Yeah your helping the team but in reality your wasting silver lions. Like how everyone mentioned before if we all did play like this they should make the spotting system better while getting bonuses from spotting.
this tutorial was rather useful for the more experienced players who can afford to not be grinding as fast as possible, however, for newer players only getting 500 RP ( as stated by TredBobek) the risk is not worth the reward. The easy way to fix the RP problem is give light tanks the ability to gain RP by "T-1-7" (aka spotting the enemy on the map for your team). If light tanks gain RP for spotting, as they are intended to do anyway, the class will see more play due to more than just 500 RP a match.
Late War Shermans are still underpowered. Because there is no balanced Medium Tank/Heavy tank ratio that the matchmaker tries to meet, American and British teams with mostly Medium tanks go up against Heavy Tank saturated German and Soviet teams, specifically the Tiger 1 and IS-1 and 2.
Light tanks are so much better now that the binocular spotting mechanic is in game
"HOW NOT TO LOSE IN WAR THUNDER AS A LIGHT TANK = DON'T"
Well, looks like hiding around corners and shooting at enemies is not effective anymore at rank 2, is it?
how about english subtitle? i see your lates video already got eng sub. it's very helpful for foreign player that not used to hear english conversation.
Could you please make a tutorial on how to play with the IS-2-1944 with post-war ammo and how to play the T-10 in a 6,7 battlerating game? Because that seems to be really difficult...
You can only pen your enemies such as King-tigers or Leopards 99% of the time instead of 100% and sometimes it's not even a one-shot kill. And they sometimes can penetrate my tanks, even though that should be impossible because they are russian tanks after all...
Thank you gaijin for your useful tutorials.
How make a vid of "how to effectively earn lions and RP in light tanks"
so... how many research points and silver lions do you get?
because "spotting" in war thunder does not really give you the same rewards that world of tanks does. Which means why would you play light tanks if you can't get RP?
There should be a way to "spot" and get experience/lions for it
mast passive agressive intro of all time
Me, i got a noise problem, i don't hear anything, theres no sound and no music.
Apparently Gaijin thinks every tank battle is always filled with teamwork and happiness. I've seen good teamwork fairly often on Realistic Aviation, but in tank battles? Pshh, when you say "enemies spotted up the hill" either nobody will care or a toxic player will say "omfg noob come capture point nobody cares about the fucking hill" and then teamkills you. Then we lose the match because the enemy managed to flank us, and the toxic guy will say "omfg noob team can't even kill tanks u all suck"
Since they introduced the offroad speeds for lighter tanks and cars they are uselss they are just as fast as medium tanks.
And yes the game has loads of ru bias.
Now do you mind telling me how do I counter people playing on ULQ and what's the point of not doing that?
what if the cps are in the middile all of them?
4.3 suposid match. M4A2 or 3 76 witch is at 5.0 or 4.7(i cant remember).
Balance the maps to make this type of play possible and I’ll consider it
ive bought the sherman scorpio...but his armor is very very slim...and i get one shot every time .its a medium tank but must i play it as a light one ?
+Ehlinger Mathias play the scorpio as a tank destroyer, give 'em the good 'ol flank and spank!
+Andrew McGrath ok because his gun is quite powerfull ;) thx m8
+Ehlinger Mathias You call tank's a "he" :O >:(
Do this for medium tanks plz
Speaker confirmed the russian bias. :D
Aren't some light tanks you mentioned medium tanks? M4 Sherman, T-34? I'm a rookie but I study WW2 tanks.
If you spot an enemy you gain points? This is critical in other tank games. Think about this. Also in RB spotting an anemy (center him on your binoculars) must be visible (red dot on map) to your teamates. Think about this also, this make sense.
Speaking about spoting guys, notice that there must be a white smoke clound from the engine around every mooving tank. In WT this is happen only to AI tanks, why? Spoting a tank from its smoke is the most natural think as in reality.
Please do a tutorial on Japanese tanks! It is really hard to score a kill with them.
Title should be "How to automatically win" considering a good tanker is much more powerful in a light tank than any other class of tank.
Now do a 'HOW NOT TO LOSE IN BOMBERS' and please show people that rushing with bombers into the german team is not a good idea.
M4A2 76(W) is at 5.0, not 4.3 :D
Well... At least you admitted there's a Russian bias.Like for example. AP shells not penetrating an IS-4 from an 88 at 10 meters range. Just the first thing that poped to mind, really.
how to not lose playing light tanks: drive around at top speed hitting M10s and encircling SU-85s
"Tell your allies through chat" or, you know, you could implement an spotting system like WOT did instead of relying on your teammates who aren't paying attention to read extremely specific chat commands that are in all likelihood, not useful.
This is not a substitute for an actual game mechanic, despite this being able to potentially work. Nobody on your average team is reading chat, and likely never will, because it's much more rewarding to use these spotting methods in a tank that can actually kill something.
for goodness sake I know a lot of times where people don't listen to rule number 5.
-Teamwork 2016
"I saw it!"
3:20 Mildly Annoying Insect
Me: ur driving a Locust
Except there is a difference, what makes me angry is when I get shafted by the game.
I.e. the Russian bias, a tank shell sailing clean through the ground or a building, some dodgy physics ect ect.
You know the Russians are overpowered when a developer of the game mentions it for when you die
There's a thing called sarcasm
How do you use binoculars in the game
Can I find these vídeos in spanish? They´re very inteeresting.
My mistake is always assuming a team mate will actually cover your flank......
can anyone help me!?!?!? for some reason i cant play war thunder i can launch the launcher and the settings came out to check for updates then i press play it will load for a long long long time and i cant play it :(
How much RAM do you have?
+Jacob Hardy (JacobHardy64) He has 512mb of ram and the power supply is hamster on a wheel.
a fair amount i played the game for quiet some time now it started just a couple days ago just after the 1.55.2.76 patch
the russian bias :DDD
love you guys.
hola, si traducen el juego porque no los videos..? -.-
I have a problem my game says I cannot play because some button doesn't work my gun doesn't work what the h*** is happening
I dont be sure it right way to play wiht light thanks ...I trying but no advice..but with my expirence trying advice for playr in arcade the game with light tank ...first when the game begin take speed tanks but target is faster by opponet go to point A B C ,but what is happing?opponent is faster and take point and you have problems you are with light tank opppnrt maybe go with 4 rank..what now?you must hiden ant wait support ..dont rush with bad thanks up..playing very carefulll and smart
Geurilla tactics ftw
light tanks are good if you play it smart and play it like a ninja :D