Crown Court - A Man with Everything (1978)
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Kenneth Eden is indicted with theft and indecent assault on a minor.
Another great story here with powerful performances. Lots of known actors here, especially from the world of Doctor Who!
Peter Copley, playing the Judge, was in "Pyramids of Mars". Geoffrey Palmer, playing the accused, was in "The Silurians" and others. Anne Reid, here as Florence Davenport, was in the "Curse of Fenric". Prosecuting Counsel, played by Vernon Dobtcheff, appeared in "The War Games" and Jacqueline Hill (as the wife of the accused) was Barbara Wright, one of the first companions to William Hartnell's Doctor. Director Richard Martin also worked on early Doctor Who adventures.
Tony Caunter was also in Doctor Who in "Colony in Space" but will be probably be best known as Roy in EastEnders, as was Lizzie Power (Defence Counsel) who played Arthur Fowler's romantic interest, Christine.
Given the rubbish they put out now in the afternoon, I cannot believe this was an ITV afternoon show, quality writing, superb production and truly excellent acting/actors, really happy I've somehow stumbled upon this really enjoying it. No wonder people say TV was better 70s & 80s if this is an example!
Quality daytime television - those were the days.
All we seem to get now is medical stuff - there are no progs about the law anymore
It’s so bloody boring
Nice to hear from someone who realises why us boomers complain about "some" things in the way that we do!!
This series is superb, however let us not forget there was plenty of garbage back then too. It's all subjective.
This series is superb, however let us not forget there was plenty of garbage back then too. It's all subjective.
Sheer quality. Geoffrey Palmer, Joanne Whalley, Anne Reid. This is light years ahead of the dross served up on television today.
Hardly get to hear such impeccable English nowadays! It’s a sheer joy watching these classic shows created some 45 years ago!
I’m a shameless cinematic Anglophile, who eats it with a spooooon! 😆😄❤️🍿🎥🇬🇧🧐✨✨✨
I love all the British series from the 70's and 80's. Thank you so much.
I’m same as you. Do you remember a tv programme based in a country kitchen if I remember right?
@@vinerscott I think you are referring to the cookery programme Farmhouse Kitchen?.
@@darkknight1340 that’s it 😂😂😂thank you for that 😂😀👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Wonderful to hear English spoken so clearly and correctly. Nowadays one struggles to understand the gibberish passed off as English. Sadly, current TV shows - like Society in general - have become coarser and uglier.
Sad, but true in the English-speaking world of today. 😞
And Vernon Dobtcheff - the prosecuting attorney in this episode - was always a real asset in any production.
Geoffrey Palmer and Judy Dench are my favorite British actors…so amazing in As Time Goes By…absolutely brilliant!!!!
I really enjoy Crown Court,can't get enough!!!
It ran for years and years
Quite possibly the very best episode of the whole 1978 series. I kept switching my verdict right up until the very end but I was still surprised by the jury's decision. His performance showed what a fine actor Geoffrey Palmer could be when given the right script.
Such as, "I'm a doctor and I want my sausages!".
Tear a 14 year old apart in the box and nobody bats an eyelid, but the accused's wife gets a bit upset and everyone's worried for her 🤷♂
It's called middle-class snobbery and it's still the same today, nothings changed. 😒😒
Wow what an episode/s. More twists and turn than a Spanish snake slithering and supping sherry under the sun in the sands of the Sahara. Excellent acting all round especially that young girl. Today's up-and-coming actors could learn a lesson or two from these most professional and convincing performers. That defence barrister was on the offensive! I'd rather jump out of a window than be cross-examined by her - played by the wonderful compelling Elizabeth Power. I was not expecting that verdict which I will not reveal. Huge thanks to you Jez. You are the Patron Sain of RUclips quality entertainment. Fantastic stuff.
Looking at all the rubbish that goes out on various TV channel's these day's, A programme which was made in 1978 I consider to be more interesting and better made. This Crown Court to me is much better than anything on TV on offer from these day's. I have enjoyed watching this and I found it very good to watch. Thank you for uploading this PC. 10. 03. 2023.
Terrific. Thanks once more for uploading this brilliant, forgotten series.
It is not forgotten
The way she’s going all in on that girl is brutal. She’s treating her like a grown woman.
Yes, and the jury look unimpressed - quite rightly.
Thank God that this does not happen today in criminal proceedings. Today we have a grounds rules hearing to deal with prepared scripted questions for child victims, which is video recorded for the jury to view. This sort of cross-examination is utterly ridiculous in reality the Judge and the prosecutor even back then would have intervened. Context is everything this was 1978 after pre-PACE 1984 and the Criminal Justice Act 2003. Then again this is dramatised for television purposes.
I remember watching Crown Court as a child. Didn't realise how highbrow it was. Even better than I remember and of course Geoffrey Palmer is as ever excellent. Thanks for uploading.
Highbrow?
Fascinating to see Geoffrey Palmer in a serious role.
Jeffery Palmer was a perfect example of being “square jawed”
Such a unique idea for a tv show. I remember as a kid thinking how great it would be to be chosen to be on that jury!
Good to see the lovely Elizabeth Power in this episode. Such an underrated actress.
Great cast, great acting. Also love the clothes and 70's vibe
Wonderful performance by Elizabeth Power -- I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Thank you Jez T.
Geoffrey Palmer, I recognize him from a UK tv series I saw about 20 years ago and enjoyed but do not remember the title, however the plot was, a young British officer going off to fight in Korea during the very early 50's leaving his love played by Judy Drench, and reunited in the late 80's and the romance was rekindled.
I enjoyed the series very much.
Thank you for providing this great series for us.
He was the doctor in Fawlty Towers
Reggies brother in law in the Army. "Bit of a cock up on the catering front"
Thank you, will find and watch it.
Judy Dench 😊 x
A fine romance
Vernon Dobtcheff a great actor has appeared in everything from this too The Day of the Jackal, from Some Mothers Do Ave Them to The Spy Who Loved Me.Happy too say he's still with us
Good character actor.
Completely forgot how good these were. I'm hooked.
That's the doctor dude who was demanding sausages in "Fawlty Towers".
Yup, the same one! 😁🐟🍽️🍴⚰️
How long did he get? !
@@harrycoffeynield6941 18 months for demanding sausages with menace.
And Wendy Craig's Husband in Butterflies and later Lionel in As Time Goes By
'I'm a Doctor and I want to fondle you!'
Anyone else notice a joke on the part of the Writer? It's a staple of British Drama that Judges are notoriously out-of-touch with popular culture... "The Beatles?" "A Liverpool musical ensemble, M'Lud...") yet here it is the Judge who explains to the jury that 'Electric Caterpillar' are a rock band!!! (Nice touch!) xx SF
"What went on in the garden of Eden?""
Damn. The judge's got jokes!
Geoffrey palmer was awesome actor. Handsome to
Yes, the face I’d love to kiss!,,
Hard to say who did more harm to the defence, the arrogant, unpleasant defendant or his hectoring, unpleasant counsel.
Elizabeth Power, was married to Michael Aspel. She also played Christine Hewitt in Eastenders, Arthur Fowler's mistress.
Wow....thanks I thought I remembered this actress from another drama....she was great in this.....
Absolutely brilliant I remember watching this in the late 70s as a child brilliant actors and classic programme much better than the rubbish broadcast these days 😊
Rest in peace Geoffrey Palmer outstanding show
I'm rather surprised that the defendants council had to bring up the conversation the defendant had in the pub with his friend the inspector about his liking of little girls. For her to even bring this up, which In my view was not necessary, swung it for the prosecuting council. I do agree with the findings however just thought it was odd that she even brought it up.
Yes, that was really odd. I guess it might be that she was unaware of the content of the conversation between the accused and the inspector; but she could at that moment almost have been acting as counsel for the prosecution.
It was interesting to see, at the very end, the old-fashioned technique of fading speech into music while onscreen characters are still speaking.
As you said, there was nothing in that line that would help his defence. It was, in fact, completely irrelevant unless she knew the nature of the conversation - in which case she also knew that it would catastrophically harm his defence.
Maybe it was a nod to the conflict faced by a defending counsel who believes their client to be guilty of such a heinous crime, I'm sure a little 'match-fixing' isn't beyond the realms of possibility in such cases. While I'm sure it would be far more subtle in reality, the same could be said of the slip ups by which witnesses generally discredit themselves. For the purposes of television, these things always seem to be over-egged to ensure that ALL viewers pick up on them.
I thought he was guilty on both counts, but when they returned not guilty of theft I thought they'd acquit on the assault charge too. Far from being a mere 'trinket', I felt that the necklace was a 'trophy'.
In conclusion, I think she 'done him up like a kipper'.
@@waltdefucq6106 Defence counsel let the cat of the bag out at the beginning when questioning the Police inspector Charles Cripps, Defence - I suggest what You actually said was, it had to come, Ken. In relation to their friendship and conversation they had previously as men and as friends, Inspector Cripps No No.. no no no.. No.
The prosecution did not need to be there, she did the job for them.
I agree too. That bit was an own goal
Thanks again for sharing crown court Jez.
I've a few more, Mark, so I'll upload when I'm able. Glad you're enjoying them! :)
+Jez T Thanks a lot, you're a gentleman. I look forward..👍🏼
Top man
Imagine if the accused had stated, 'I'm a doctor and I want my sausages.'
Absolutely.
What kind of judge allows this callous and deliberate mistreatment of a child witness? And nobody takes her part? Disgraceful.
Ruddy brilliant series and I adore the series' theme tune.Jeffery Palmer is a fine actor gracing us with series' such as Carla Lanes "Butterflies"(1978)and more recently "As time goes by with a true heavyweight Dame Judy Dench.
As for the girl in this episode I thought she acted very well given the dramatic tensions of the content.I must say though that I was shocked really that a "victim" seemingly be treated and emotionally raped in this manner.
I am so glad that the Court system in these days have more empathetic protocols in place.
CCTV and video link is used nowadays especially where Children are concerned.
THANKYOU for the upload.Do you have the episode with Shane Briant?
Like it when the judge says "what went on in the garden of Eden". Also Geoffrey Palmer was on the Professionals TV series in 1977 or 1978 I think in the episode "where the jungle ends"-a must see for 70s fans.
Mr Palmer was in at least two episodes of The Professionals, one as a crime lord and another as a corrupt civil servant, if I recall correctly. Loved The Pros when I was a teenager.
@Andrew WilsonHey Andrew that annual would have been a great find! I was in my late teens when the Pros was first screened here in New Zealand. Some of the plots were quite complex, Brian Clemens and the other script writers must have had cryptic minds, lol. What I thought was quite impressive was the continuity given that there were more than 20 different writers and a similar number of directors used across the 57 episodes. Among episodes I recall were one where a mad chemist was threatening to dump hallucinogenic drugs in London's water supply, another where CI5 infiltrated a white supremacist group who had been terrorizing folk of a different ethnicity (I'm trying to be PC) from their homes, and yet another where the lads are given a high powered rifle to test but an ex-cop with a grudge against Doyle steals it from them. There's also another episode where Bodie rescues a nurse who has had a grenade trapped inside her blouse. It was a really fun series, arguably ahead of its time (certainly by NZ standards).
My Gran used to watch this every day. I was only 5 or 6 and could never understand it and was genuinely baffled about why she was so engrossed in it. Watching it now really takes me back about 50 years. This was actually quite entertaining. I was surprised by the verdict - I would have acquitted him.
It was the chain that made him guilty. You just wouldn't put it around your own neck. Geoffrey Palmer got 10 years in jail and Only did 7with good behaviour he came out In 1985
@@marksinclair846 That's where he was. He was clearly lying to Judi Dench about having been in Kenya.
Pure quality.
Very interesting! My first time seeing/hearing about this series. Of course, it's not available on dvd in US format. So typical. Thanks for posting these, Jez T.
A pleasure, Johnny. :)
you done it again crown court at its best top man jezz..
A pleasure, Bruce. :)
Brilliant! Finally I find a channel that has my favourite programme. Thanks so much!
Thank heavens times have changed. What a nightmare for the victims,
Agreed, how disgusting , I know of children who were abused then, so sickening to feel so helpless 😣
It goes both ways there are olk who have been falsely accused. A false accusation can destroy lives too.
I don’t think it took that amount of brutality speaking to a possible child victim. If it’s untrue, bring it out, but I think she was out of line.
@@Webbgurl2000 Not if she was lying.
Actor, Vernon Dobtcheff, portraying the prosecutor here, was in my favorite Poirot episode, Poirot’s Christmas. In it, he portrays a mean, wealthy man, who’s murdered, and whose family hates him and for whom Poirot is charged with ferreting out the murderer.
Totally random…I think he has one of the most beautiful noses I’ve ever seen. 🥰
Also in the Spy who Loved Me, and One of the Indiana Jones films. Also enjoy his performances.
Excellent story. I thought the whole business with the chain around his neck was baffling. Bit strange it was the defence that brought up the pub conversation, but I think the jury got it right. Strange exchanges of glances between Eden and Barbara at the end though.
I think the necklace was a gift from her which he accepted. Hence the NG for the theft and G for the assault.
The defence was terrible why bring up the conversation in the pub that damned him, his affairs all his accusers and why would allow a young girl to be alone with him - very well done from a former criminal barrister
would a defense Barrister seriously get away with treating a child like this? she doesnt have to prove ANYTHING
Crown Court should have never been axed from the t.v.. in fact. They should have been a flim version of Crown Court. From Paul Eyles from Portsmouth
They axed all the good stuff, stupidity and ego reign supreme.
Wonderful - especially Anne Reid, who for me is our greatest actress. Subscribed!
When the defendant said that his weakness was little girls, he condemned himself.....
Yep, then mentioned fantasies. The prosecution would have light a cigar and put their feet up, job done.
VERNON DOBTCHEFF!!!!
Wow. Thanks for the upload Jez. 👍
It’s not credible that the defendant would casually confess, in the dock - under inexplicably hostile questioning FROM HIS OWN COUNSEL - to having told his police inspector chum a long time ago in the pub that he had a weakness for little girls and explaining that it meant sexual assault of a minor wasn’t for him an inconceivable act.
Geoffrey Palmer plays evil roles well.
Fabulous! I'd always be late back to school in the afternoons as a teenager because I never missed Crown Court.
Jimmy couldn't get off with this charge!
best tv episodes ever ... should bring them back if big bang theory can be aired then anything is possible
HAHAHA
Addicting. Can't get enough of this.
I'm afraid I've only a couple more to upload, but I'm pleased you're enjoying them! :)
AddictIVE. 'Addicting' is not a real word.
Jez T .how did you find all these jez
@@nakedmambo Americans quite often find ive endings to words difficult so they add the ing instead. But its considered standard English and increasing numbers of UK English speakers use it today too.
Illinois family....stop saying addicting...the word is addictive. (addictive or addicted) eg. I was addicted to drugs. The drugs were addictive.
The defence counsel seems to be bringing out the most damning evidence against him!
My conclusion as well. I certainly would never want her to ever 'miss' repepersemt me; The prosecution did not need to be there, she did the job for them.
Calling the accused is a risky legal gambit because, in part, an attorney never really knows how the accused is going to react under the pressure of the trial and what the witness will say. In this case, the accused was a difficult witness for his own counsel and his remarks hurt his case, particularly his unsolicited explanation about his remarks to the Inspector at the pub. The Inspector had not testified to those remarks and as such, the accused should have avoided addressing his comment about his predilection for young girls. He lost the case right then!
I can't understand why the defence effectively showed her clients guilt with the comments about the pub conversation. However a great episode I always used to catch crown court at lunchtime but never remembered watching an entire one. Excellent episodes and a stellar cast with Geoffrey Palmer Anne Reid who was val Barlow in corrie and Jacqueline Hill a companion of the first doctor. Not mentioning also a young Joanne Whalley.
Anne Reid was a brilliant actress, known for much better role's than bloody coronation Street!
The Police Inspector is played by the actor who was Roy Evan's in EastEnders
By heck, there's a blast from the past. Bring back Crown court.
That poor wife.
Yes, to think she defended him. But she was better treated in court than that poor kid.
Memories of coming back from playgroup. I always remember this was on after News at 1
Brilliant drama. Thank you
i thought, the defence was superbly played by Lizzie Power. her voice and talking, very much was rocking the attention and gave the buzz needed but allowed, with great subtlety, room for all other rolles and their account
She looks exactly like Phylida Trent from Rumpole of the Bailey
God this takes me back to my youth
When tv companies made quality programmes
Joanne Whalley plays the friend
Most appreciated Jez. Marvellous.
I use t watch this a s a kid, why don't they bring these things back
Anne Reid was also in the Doctor Who story “Smith and Jones”
Was it filmed as live, without retakes? Or are the prosecuting barristers stumbles and coughs at the beginning deliberate?
Judges making Jokes ,we live in Hope,in our Garden.
Do you have the episode with Juliet Stevenson? I don’t know what it is called, I’ve never seen it. So many fine actors appearing in this series over the years.
Fabulous 😄 I used to hate Crown Court in the 70s (I was about 7 or 8 when this was on, skiving from school with a "tummy ache"!). Watching it as an adult is quite, quite different.(Obviously!) England certainly has changed a lot in 40-odd years. None of those "inclusivity quotas" for the cast back in those days! Wouldn't be allowed now!!
Me too! I was about that age abd thought it boring.
Defendant is Reggie Perrin's brother in law Jimmy, the retired Major.
Enjoyed Geoff Palmer with Wendy Craig, Butterfly?? The Rise & fall of Reginald Perring,
fulchester, isn't that from viz comic?
This is actually doing my head in for coursework
Tony Caunter too was in three Doctor Who stories
That illusion to the Garden of Eden in the summing up was really inappropriate even if he meant it as word play. The young actress looked very tired but she was very convincing. I am surprised she doesn't seem to have continued acting.
'What went on in the garden of Eden!' Hahaha
Crown Court was high quality british drama at its best, with fantastic acting such as in this episode. A really tricky case to be sure...the balance of evidence swung against the accused because of the sheer number of women accusing him of inappropriate sexual connection. Plus his ill judged admission (supposedly a joke) that he liked young girls. Yet there was evidence in his favour too, such as the questionable motives and dishonesty of some of the witnesses. So I was surprised he was found guilty...I don't feel that his guilt was proved beyond reasonable doubt? Just a tricky case all round. 🤔
The way that girl was treated on the stand was a disgrace😠
Wow! They would really allow a barrister to harass a minor like this? Insane! Thank God we no longer live in the 70s.
Exactly. Surprised the judge or the prosecuting attorney didn't intervene there!!
On BBC Radio 4 in Britain right now is a mish mash of a programme where the presenter or narrator has introduced us listeners to a New York based writer whom explained why she chose to live on her own just before the Covid lockdown along with a description of the items in her new kitchen - another writer in England whom was so poorly with Covid that his mother was told to expect his death and a seemingly unconnected day centre in Glasgow where bored & lonely guys in early retirement can meet . All these meetings were accompanied by sadness invoking background music .I could of course re tuned my radio to receive 15 minute sound bite news reports & traffic & travel information & a generic interview with a daytime tv presenter thanks to my local station or tried Talksport to hear comment regarding the top six soccer clubs’ transfer speculation in rotation with on repeat 15 minute sound bite news reports …Thank God my tablet computer has re charged & I can listen to something INTERESTING & ENTERTAINING 😁👍
Joanne Whalley also turns up in the very first episode of Juliet Bravo.
Blimey, is Vernon Dobtcheff burpy in the beginning or what?
What on earth is meant to be happening at 17:02? Is that the judge interrupting counsel for the defence? If so, why?
An 16/17yo Joanne Whalley in one of her early roles.
Bloody hell! How glad I am to know times have changed, so much abuse was ignored in ' the good old days'! Disgusting tbh, I was a about 19 at this time, sexual abuse was normal then, so feckin sad for all the damaged youngsters 😥, this girl would never be put through this nowadays, thank goodness.
Maybe times were different back then but a lot of things went on that would not have been allowed these days
Linda Mason's head screams _'1978!'_
Mrs Davenport is anne Reid.she played ken b arlows ist wife in corrie
And much better roles for years!
@@kathleencampbell1138 your so right Kathleen but do u remember kens first wife Valerie Mr Albert Tatlocks niece who died from electricusion from a hair dryer sorry don't know the actress s name but very attractive..Have lovely memories of crown court always watched it when I was off sick from school with my mom preparing our tea as a house wife in the afternoon n followed was General hospital..my mom is now RIP but memories never fade..Kind regards Glynn n Greetings from Stourbridge West Midlands 🤗🤗
Anne Reid was Ken Barlow 1st wife .who was electrocuted .
Thank God we don't children being cross-examined in this pathetic manner today. Ground rules questions are a perfeclty good construction.
Why do both counsel keep making impermissible comments?
And Joanne Whalley as Linda Mason - who knew that girl would go on to marry a hollywood star!!
what was that PC guarding? The hall phone?
The Garden of Eden was two adults. This case was a grown man and child
No defence barrister was not ken b arlows 1st wife.