Triumph Trident 660 vs Kawasaki Z650 | The Perfect First Big Bike | ZigWheels.com
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2021
- The dream of owning a big bike is addictive. In the mass market segment, the first tryst with performance for most Indian bikers is in the form of bikes such as the KTM 390 Duke, Kawasaki Ninja 300 and the TVS Apache RR 310. But when the time comes to make the next jump in performance and displacement, the natural choice is the 650cc class. Over the years, the Kawasaki Z650 has been a crowd favourite owing to its sensible quotient and the dash of performance from its parallel-twin motor. However, that isn’t the case in 2021. With the advent of new bikes such as the Triumph Trident 660 and the Honda CB650R, buyers have more options than ever.
The Honda CB650R is the only inline-four-cylinder bike available in this segment. However, its absurd pricing makes it more of a niche product. The Triumph Trident is the new kid on the block, it has the firepower from its triple-cylinder engine, a bunch of features and more importantly the aspirational Triumph badge. In this comparison we try to find out which bike is the better option for you when you make the leap into the world of mid-displacement performance bikes. We have tested the Triumph Trident 660 and the Kawasaki Z650 on the open highways, twisting mountain roads and the constricted city streets to find a definite winner. 
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Honestly, When you mention exhaust note - you must play exhaust note (Trident 660) and not drum beats.
Exactly bro
Exactly
I just paused the video to comment exactly this... I was waiting for the Exhaust note to drop but get drum beats.. Wtf
Was about to comment the same
👍 ... Was eagerly waiting to hear the note.... But...
Mind says kawasaki.. Heart says triumph... Wallet Says tvs 100.
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Don't worry listen to your heart, one day your wallet will match top. Just work hard on your dreams. It's a nice joke BTW 😉🐱
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😂🤣😁..
Pradeep, you are right... Isme koi Do rai nahi hai 😆
I wished Shumi is going to come with a third bike..but yea I realised..this isn't powerdrift channel 😂
2 things I'll never forget in my life
1. Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
2. The Z is easy. 🙏👏
And hotel : trivago.......sorry just had to do 😂
I've ridden both machines. The Trident feels like a Triumph Street Triple engine slapped on a Duke 390. Absolutely beautiful machine
“THE EXHAUST NOTE”....proceeds to play music .
Yeah that's what I was thinking
Hey...you guys nail it when it comes to comparisons!!
Enjoyed the video.
Cheers!
Lovely..... That's what can be said about the crazy comparo after so many years been a subscriber of ZigWheels.
I missed you both. Love the rapport. 😁👌🏻.
And great info on both bikes too. 👍🏻
I would still prefer Z650. having owned the ninja 300 for around 4 years now. and I can say Kawasaki bikes are very reliable. other than servicing and brake pad change I had to do nothing.
all well built bikes are. My TVS apache is running smooth from years with servicing.
What is Average paid service cost per year for Ninja 300?
Trident has one powerful feature compare to Z650; Power To Weight Ratio
Triumph really managed to keep it below 190KG. Even 1KG here and there makes a lot of sense within this segment!
Err the Z650 is also 190 kg wet. The Z650 has a 1 litre bigger tank so the differences between the two with similar amounts of fuel is negligible. That said the Trident is far better VFM at this time in India. The only reason I wouldn't go for it would be that its not meant for guys above 5 ft 11.
@@brendonfernandes2877 yah but trident is 3 cylinder and z is 2. So even having 2 cylinder extra so power its power to weight ratio is way better than z650. Also after sale service, service interval is better for trident so trident really hit the winning six here.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 What a silly statement. The Z650 has 2 cylinders but it has 650cc engine capacity which is 10 less than the Trident. The engine size matters much more than just the number of cylinders and both have very similar engine sizes. The Trident has more power that's true and is a better buy if you have the money and have access to a Triumph service center which has fewer service centers. But comparing the weights just by cylinder is ridiculous.
@@brendonfernandes2877 looks like you are new to bike world. Cylinder capacity always makes difference when it comes to power ratio. Triumphs service is always better than kawasaki because you have to do service only once in year and it's reach is as bad as kawasaki. I live in Pune which is metro city and even we have only 1 service center here from kawasaki. So it don't make any difference.
You are paying for kawasakis same old boring machine which didn't get any significant changes over the years. So trident is way better than z650 any given day.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 Buddy I own a Z650. Bought the 2019 model. I still think the Trident is a better bike but you aren't convincing anyone about your knowledge of cylinders. Each engine configuration has it's own plus and minuses. There is a reason the best ADV bike the BMW 1250 GS has a twin cylinder configuration and the best track bikes have a 4 cylinder configuration. They both have their uses. Twin cylinders are for their low end torque while 4 cylinders are great for top speed. 3 cylinders are somewhere in between and a balance between torque and HP.
And while the Trident is better it's not way better. For one the suspension is bad for broken Indian roads. The Z650 has much better suspension for our roads. And it's almost 1 lakh difference in price. If you spend one lakh more than the Trident you get the Z900 which is a far better bike. The Trident also is a very small bike and lacks street presence
Triumph nailed it with a tantalizingly close price, so Trident would be my choice..
But I’m not a fan of the looks of either of these bikes..
Trident looks like the first generation pulsar on steroids:)
@@kaizend9228 from no angle it looks anything like it.... Perhaps one of the most pointless comment I've ever come across... 🙄🙄🙄🙄
@@debanjanmukherjee4322 seriously comparing trident to pulsar and Husqvarna to navi is joke which this kids are making now days.
@@kaizend9228 your comparing soya bean with meat lol
@@RED_58 lol
Amazing comparo video , but honestly was waiting for a standalone review of the triumph trident
The review and the edit was awesome! Keep it going guys. :D
Awesome video guys! Thank you for this. And so entertaining.
Very insightful and well guided. 😍🙏
In the end - Triumph Trident 660 Wins😊
Nice review and really gave all aspects
Awesome presentation guys @ZigWheels
Motorcycling is about fun Funnnn watching you guys..good job
I broke my FDs n bought a Trident. It's worth every bit of it though. Goosebumps, everytime you rev up the throttle!
Gotta change the exhaust tho
This what I've been wsiting for. Fantastic.
Great banter. Enjoyed it
Good job guys ! Fun to watch
Great content!
Nice review, nice rapport👍👏
The weight of triumph trident is 189kg and z 650 is 191kg just the opposite as shown in this comparison 😎🙏
I was gonna comment this, but since you've done that, I'll just upvote.
I've got the z650 at 187kg wet and the trident at 189kg wet. Sure it's not the ninja 650 at 191kg (the ninja is 193kg)
Jehan’s expressions were too good when he was telling about the exhaust. Soo natural.
Thank you for clearing everything about it...
Awesome video. Best review of Z and Trident.
U should have the trident with the other colour.... Just a mesmerizing one!!!
Nice review!
Absolute blast of a comparo. True in every sense
Triumph Trident 660 design is kinda understated compared to Kawasaki Z650, and that helps in city usage! (less eyes means less hands :P)
I love the simplicity of Trident's looks. First thing I am going to do when (if) I buy one is put a wrap around that UK flag
@@markpaddy3280 Yea I like the sound of that. Thanks so much
So you love their bike and willing to spend on it, but hate their flag?
@@velocity1479 I don't hate it. But I don't like that design to be on my bike
@@yogeshchugh1915 okk cool..
they are proud of their county so they put their flag on their bike, you should respect that, and the union jack makes it feel more premium as it shouts British quality
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Mallu 😍👍
Njanum😜✌🏻
Athenth varthaman aanu man? Vaagikkedo pani eduth.
Vaangikkan okke pattum
... pattilla enn vichaarikkana chintha kalayunnath vare ⚡️
How about the “ engine heat” issue of both bikes in the city as well as the highway/mountains? What about the seating posture/comfort on the long rides? The soundtrack notes of both bikes?? While the review was fun, it missed out on several key factors unfortunately
Both have well managed heat dissipation. However neither are designed for heavy Indian traffic. Wear jeans or riding pants and not shorts.
Riding comfort depends on rider size and weight. Both are relaxed riding bikes but I wouldn't want to go more than 400/500 kms a day on either bike. Soundtrack of the triumph is far better than the Z650.
Quality review... you guys.
Z650 with Tridents Engine in it would have been a perfect middle weight bike..🥰🥰🥰😍😍😍
Love these type of video ..please cbr 650r or z900 ka comparison karo na ...
Z900 is king
Haha, great fun video. Superb job guys. On point review - and made me laugh too.
Even with 15hp difference the performance is similar. Triumph wins engine sound but z650 after 50000miles is still running like new and triumph only God knows how this bike will be after a few years and 20000miles...have they solved the problem with their gearboxes?!
Triumph is reliable ......
Not upto japanese standards but it is reliable
3 cylinder best of both worlds
Can you please make a video on how to ride motorcycle with low ground clearance in India, Side by side comparison of exhaust note too.
Wish you included the CB650R. The Trident and CB almost cost the same here in the Philippines, both at $10000.
Take CB650 inline 4 cylinders
The trident is like a sleeper pc. Doesn't look too distinct but performance is extremely good
I'm a Kawi fan, but have really looked closely at the Trident. It's too new of a model and there are many online with some serious issues (electrical, engine stops at idle, rust, transmission shifting problems). For me, I am not crazy about the look of the Trident's rear. I do like Kawi's styling, and I've never had an issue with my Kawi. So my next will either be Z650 or Z900.
Please show me where. I’m deciding Z or Trident and having a hard time deciding. If the Trident has some real issues I’d like to know. Please link.
@rebman5150 do you have any better idea if trident 660 is a better choice
I knew it from the start that Triden was gona win the comparison
I wish you had got the HONDA CB 650 too on the platter.
I'm new to moto and enjoying content from India more as I find that Indian and Thai roads where I live are more similar. Unlike the much smoother roads in Europe and US where majority of RUclips bike reviews are based on.
Thailand roads are a lot better than India :D
@@vaibhavgoswami6906 We have bad roads here too, my friend, trust me ;-) Add to that we ride faster which makes for much more danger, hence our 5th worst road fatality in the world
I am a Street twin owner but I still think Royal Enfield 650s missing even in the guest appearance in this video.
yes I know very well they (650 twins) don't hold a candle against these two great motorcycles but still as far as big bike and value proposition goes 650s a still from the best prospects in the country and styling well RE did the best job as they will never go out of style.
Yup continental gt has a somewhat good chance against these in terms of styling. Z900/ninja 1000sx have better value quotient. And gt650 ---》 Z900 is a good upgrade path and keeping both makes sense in terms of risk to reward on our roads ( fun but won't kill you).
@shree RE 650 twins are good bikes but it doesnt hold a candle to either one of these bikes!!!
@@subitsaurav You have to start reading I said the exact same thing.....But it has no match for its value proposition common even with this street twin I long for a GT 650, It is because it is an overall complete package.
No other bike in the world as Done that, and to prove it 650s outsell Triumph in its home market, In fact 650s have outsold every single mid displacement bike in England Australia New Zealand America and India
@@bawabiker Please read my comment again
Ha ha, no way, should the Royal enfield appear anywhere near this company.
Great video. What is the probable top end/speed on the trident ?
@Arun Nadar Thankyou so much for the reply sir. You'll make really good comparison videos. Also 200kmph I believe is a good top end!
Okay, by the end you did make me smile with "Z is EaZy" :p
I guess from that it's just wiser to wait for the MT-07 launch and see what that bike has to offer in the entry 600-700 cc category. I am pretty sure it will give a tough fight to the Trident.
It's not wise at all. Its infact incredibly unwise to wait for the MT-07 launch. What makes you think Yamaha will even launch the MT-07 in India ? A bike it has NEVER launched here and has ZERO high performance bikes in India for sale ?
@ರಾಮಾಯ卐卐卐 and Honda cb150r
Arun Anna is gifted with a natural helmet
One small suggestion.. Please include information on pillion comfort too. Most of the auto channels miss out on that.
Neither bike is good for pillion comfort. My wife refuses to sit on my bike anymore. Don't consider either bike if you wish to ride often with a pillion unless the pillion is a child.
@Arun Nadar yes Arun bhai. Getting info on pillion comfort from trusted channels like yours would help the buyers a lot.
Sir can u do a comparision between benelli trk 502 and 502c ?????
I am literally confused to buy one from it....
who ever is cinematographer great !! you should not lose him.
Good comparison … Trident is the best. I wish I can buy one but will get the upcoming Royal Enfield Hunter (Garibo ki Trident).
does buying benelli 600i Better then these (as for first big bike?)
Benelli 600i : Guys hold my exhaust🔥
@Arun Nadar yaa bro
@Arun Nadar 😂
U cant mount a camera on rider's helmet for an extra Angel, that would. Give a great view of bike ❤️
What are the seat heights of the respective bikes?
Where were you my West Indies man....was missing your reviews
Sir , if possible please do the review of the new triumph t100, 2021 model.
I can't even imagine considering Z650/Ninja650 over the trident660.
I love Honda but not a big fan of the CB650R which kinda looks outdated plus with a outdated dash.
Anyday, i will pick Z900 over both CB & CBR650.
For me, Trident 660 & Z900 are the best picks.
great comparo
Jehan feels "More" robotic when he talks. 😛
I think It's Mumbai-Pune highway, most of scene from Pune itself
I feel you should have included the Honda as well in this comparo. Showing the differences between twin, triple and inline4. The additional money in a lot of ways is justified considering how reasonable the Honda is to maintain.
In cb650r price you can buy trident with all accessories and still left with enough money to spend on service for good 2,3 years.
@@bawabiker right. I'm not saying the price difference isn't there. You missed the point of what I'm trying to say. If someone is willing to cross a certain price barrier to pay for a premium motorcycle, shouldn't the Honda also be considered. The price difference and the extra cylinder and peformance can be justified.
I'm no fan of the Honda pricing strategy and agree it's priced a lot more than the other two. For once we have options in the mid capacity segment with 3 different engine configurations.
@@dTm259 If you consider the Honda a viable comparison then why not the Z900 or the Street Triple R ? The list is endless. Those who are considering these bikes generally don't wish to spend 2 and a half lakhs more upfront or else they would just buy something like a Street Triple rather than a Trident or a Z900 rather than a Z650.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 cbr tere jaise bhik mango ke liye nahi hai
Trident always looks like my 2002 Bajaj Pulsar 150. Round Headlamp, almost Same Fuel Tank design, but differs in rear end and Engine, performance 😅
Arun anna looks like snow man in that arai helmet
Atleast compare the exhaust note !!! I was waiting for it !!! Nice review but need exhaust note always !!!!
They did actually do that but the microphone unfortunately didn't pick it up cleanly and they sent the bike back before they realized there was an issue with the audio.
Plz make a review video of Benelli 502c
One main point many of you never discuss or miss out is the resale value of the Bike in Indian Market, the Kawasaki is a bigger gainer great demand in Indian second hand bike market but with the Trident you will lose several lakhs when you sell it
Definitely, i won't be buying the Trident because it has no resale value as I will be changing my bikes every 2 years hence I will always buy a bike that gives maximum profit while I sell it 👍
2:33 someone else was also on road with 4 wheels 🔥
Wish if you could have added our own RW Twins in this comparison.
They are very underpowered
Red looks like Aditya Thackrey 😂😂😂
Where is the exhaust note?
What location is this?
wide handle bar makes a difference on turns
Triumph scores way better in fit and finish
Reliability - kawasaki
@@bawabiker true service interval is 16 k or once in year. Which will be more pocket friendly. Also Kawasaki and it's parts are more costlier than triumph.
@@hiteshgujarathi4636 Normal service costs are definitely cheaper but its a myth that Triumph spare parts are cheaper. Not true at all. Both are more or less equally expensive. Also most people use 3rd party spare parts like DID chain sprocket kits and EBC brake pads
Talks about exhaust note, proceeds with loudest music ever😂
The main problem with trident I see is the bounce at the bumpers. I own a svartpilen 250 and planning to upgrade, and I know it's a pain in ass when the bike bounces on bumpers. Like, it spoils the mood, and also breaks pillion's back.
For a biker it's a dream to have smooth roads, good weather and amazing scenery then please #SaveSoil...lets make it happen
Camera man 🔥
Pls share How's heat management! In city traffic In both ? This is the most important aspects, unless you always want to ride out in Highways.
Don't know about the Trident but the Z650 is easy to ride in traffic.
@Arun Nadar thanks, I figured , may be due to slightly bigger radiator or just because it's parallel twin.? Anyway that debate thing is quite inviting.
Zig bros when will u guys review the 2021 speed triple RS 1200??
Exactly same thoughts!
@@bawabiker whoa !! I see the spark of the 1200! That's my current "dream bike" as they say, because I've ridden basically all bikes on track under the sun, and am eagerly waiting for THE MOST POWERFUL 3 CYL motorcycle ever made in history !
I didn't know a dream bike because i started with a 100cc fathers bike , to a 200cc supermoto, to a yamaha R1 , damn that's a big jump!
I ain't much into power cruising. I would rather buy a Continental GT650 and modify it completely and still save a lakh!
Which ghats?
Kawasaki better , generally most time use is midrange. Reliability, mentenenc, services, parts availability and mileage are a big factors
Yes one big advantage of the Z650 is that its a very practical bike. Easy to ride as you get lots of power even at 2.5k rpm unlike superbikes which have to be high in the rev range to get power.
Btw , zigwheels ! Asking you a question and hoping a answer,
i used to race a 220hp race prepped R1 at the Virginia International Raceway, for 5 years , have sold it off to another racer before coming back to india, spent money in a house, and am now looking for a relaxed street riding, and enthusiastic riding, basically a veteran rider looking for a good street bike that can tour too, which bikes do you recommend for me ?
Also I'm looking for a bike below a litre and above 300 ..
Racing has caused my wrists to pain after a long time in the saddle, and due to much racing on my race prepped r1 , by back pain is due to that , I'm looking for a ok ergonomics bike (not a gargoyle).
Can you suggest?.
Also I'd like to have answers from individual members of the zig team ! Like all the hosts, and their opinions. Would love it!
Z900
@@bawabiker yeah , I'm definitely okay without the carbon fibre fairings lol, love that str 765rs , brilliant machine, i track rode it, it was phenomenal, but only if my budget was a little higher as of now😅
@@bawabiker i also get the joke :
" multistrada 950 on your radar"
Radar tech lol, really good infused humour.
Jast bye "Triumph Trident 660" and kall it a dey .
@@neti_neti_ okey ĺol😂😂😂 in yor istyle.😂
Pound for pound the 660 makes more sense with the additional features. Wait for some more time (money wise if required) and perhaps a used Street Triple would make more sense instead of a new 660.
Cheers
The used market opens a whole plethora of options. You can get a used Z650 for even 4 lakhs.
@@brendonfernandes2877 of course, being more specific, by spending a little more you get a lot more bike for your money in the Street Triple to the 660. The Z is anyways a lot less bike for me compared to the 660, wouldn’t think about it anyway.
Cheers
@@kurushunwalla True. The Z650 is not worth almost 8 lakhs at all. It should have been around 6.5l on road not 8.
Love you guys .. kash main ameer hota ..
Need cb650r vs trident video
I love the way Triumph looks 😍
Liked the script and style, but delivery needs to improve
What's the service cost like? I think around 12k for Z and around 6K for Trident for a year?
Around 8-9k for the Trident and around 14k for the Kawasaki. However every alternate year Trident service is a heavy service that costs around 16- 20k upto 25k
You should include Benelli tnt 600i
Mind says kawi
Heart says trident
Wallet says int650
Where is this location the mountains looks great
Mahabaleshwar