In WW2 the American army had the first two way radios. They weighed about 25 pounds and they only had a range of about two miles. Still they gave our army a tremendous advantage over an enemy who had no field radios at all. Forward observers, artillery spotters and small units made good use of those radios. They were comparable to what you can put in your pocket today. If your radio room is on the second floor your range will be much improved.
We use these at work and they are great! Granted the farm that I work at is only about 6 acres so not that big. For that I think these are great for small areas where everybody is still a good distance from one another.
It is a function of the frequency, power and the size of that little antenna. Mountain top to mountaintop you might get the range they advertise. Think line of sight with these.
yes 2 miles or line of site G M R S towers are 150 ft at sites around town and run a 60 transever are 6 o=are on the same in put tone you hi one and thay all come upa gm rs hand held is 5 watts I Owen three and a 45 watt base
lission to your elders the radio has a half of one watt that is it that is all the F C C would allow put your big boy pants on and move on. and live with it
OK let's get you back to earth family service walkie talkies are semplex big turm meaning radio to radio and that radio having a 1 and 1 half watt transmitter will give you a one mile range only small antenna small radio let's do in kiddie form you have a one mile leash with collar mom is mission control calling calling the commands to dad sorry P.S the F C C has full control of that radio as to power out put you want range more than 1 mile GO G M R S no test to take $ 35.00 dollares thay will give you your licensee kind of like your phone number for your radio and you use radio towers not mountains.
with a half of a watt of power you might get 12 blocks only KNOW with a licensee radio tuned to a G M R S radio tower you will make 20 miles that being you radio has a PL tone added to the radio then your licensee will set you back $ 35.00 dollars will be good for the family for 10 years we do radio towers in town and yes I have a licensee a hand held is 5watts out put my base is 45 watts.
realy tell me how far a radio with a half a watt radio will go this is fact one mile and your done know G M R S radio go's 20 miles from radio to tower to radio no mountins police and fire do the same despt to tower to car.
I have some Midland radios similar to those and my wife and I have done this same experiment, only got about 2.5 to 3 miles on flat wooded terrain down in south Alabama
You got more than I did. I have an old emergency hand held cb my dad gave me from the 70's and it works great. The problem it is only one. Perhaps I'll break it out and try to see if one of those gets better range when talking to it.
UHF & VHF communications are line by sight with signal boosting by repeaters mounted on a tower nearby. Most repeaters have a code which you will need to know to add that input into your radio for that frequency. Ham radio inverted V wire antenna"s and beams for frequencies of 10 meters and up actually can shoot up and bounce against the ionosphere and come down at an angle much further away. On 10meters i talked to the iraqi communications director who was a ham radio opr using a off-setted 60 foot wire (Carolina windom)antenna The same goes for cb base stations, especially if the radio freq's are modified or open to operate on USB or LSB frequencies below cb channel 1 freq = 26965 MHz. Base station cb's most had USB (upper sideband)& LSB (lower sideband) options. I could talk from Tennessee to Barbados & Trinidad on just 4 watts of power on freq 26915 LSB while driving. The frequencies of the lower non regulated freq's ( below the sanctioned CB freq's) actually are like compressed into a tighter pattern enabling longer talk distance. We call that shooting skip. Compared to different shotgun chokes. Some makes a larger pattern and some keeps the pattern tight. Regular cb freq's is like buckshot, wide pattern and lower are like a choke keeping the pattern tight. Then the pattern can be splitted into 2 levels, USB & LSB crazy huh? Some handhelds have removable antenna's that uses a bnc connector which can be attached to a properly made coax with matching connector attached to a beam designed for the frequency range you desire to talk in. That super increases you talk distance and could push your signal through the funk that normally would stop you. A little info i thought would be helpful... By the way i am a ham radio opr
These radios are excellent they work superb hilltop to hilltop and can achieve 100s of km range you done well getting the ranges you achieved well done and also you're helper at the other end superb video post enjoyed it immensely....micky Great Britain.....p.s the hyped up ranges manufacturers put on these radios are for the radio in an ideal spot and line of sight and propogation can be a much needed factor to achieve these long ranges I have friends in Japan who use 10mw handheld radios and venture out into very high spots and they achieve hundreds of kilometres some of my pmr radios which have 0.5watts I have had 20 to 30 mile ranges so these sets never stop amazing me with these surprising distances.....and Midland do make good quality two way radios....
your on a hill top he is on another hill top if both hill's are more than a mile apart you are out as both radio's have a half a watt transmitter for family service radio.
Good topic, we tested ours on a skills hike with a group in november. In the woods we were lucky to get 40 yards. At one point our groups were about twenty yards apart with about a 12 foot high hill between us. The radios would not transmit clear. Basically on open ground if you can see line of sight then you can probably talk.
your radio has a 1& 1/2 of one watt transmitter that is why end of the block I am on a 45 watt radio and do 20 off are tower grid but then I am up with the big boys running 5 WATT's hand held's while you are on the new child band.
These radios work great over short distances when there are no big buildings. Tress won't be an issue. You are right however about line of sight. I live in North central Arizona surrounded by mountains and these radios dint work here either.
We bought 28 mile of these to keep in communication when hiking got disappointed that we didn't even get a miles worth. At home my son and I have played with them throughout the house great communication for that. Also went about a half-mile away did pretty good there however once there is more trees and other homes in a way maybe a mile and a half then it got very sanity with very little reception.
your radio runs on a 1/2 watt transmitter what do expect one mile or line of site that is it G M R S will get you 28 miles but thre is a license required.
to do 28 miles you need to one tune your radio to a tower PL tone your way in know you need to receive you F C C licensee call sign then you can come and talk on are towers.
family service is restricted to 1/2 a watt under rules set by the F C C to see the G M R S site you need a tower PL tone and a radio licensee to use it.
Same thing with the baofeng, you would have to hoist a slim jim antenna( and you can build your own) up in the trees to get a clear range with nothing interfering with it
I got my ham licence back in 2014 and was looking to get the newest and best radio I could afford. One of the hams at my local club gave me some great advice. He said that the antenna is what will get my signal to be heard not a better radio. More power doesn't mean more range.
Put a discone antenna in your attic for your ham radio. As good as it gets if you want to be stealthy. Make sure to ground it. Unfortunately Radio Shack sold a really good one and they are gone, not sure of another good source for one now other than eBay for the old Radio Shack one.
The only time I have gotten several miles is when I was on a 8,000 ft mountain and had a view of a LONG valley. I could hear 25 miles or so. On water might get long range but if in hills or forest areas, Not So Much.
Techniques to extend the range of handheld transceivers-----hold the radios vertical, and don't touch the antenna, and use the MONITOR button ( if the radio has one) to open the squelch for maximum receive. This was a good video.
ONCE AGAIN GUYS MOON TO EARTH FAMMILY SERVICE IN LIMITED to 1&1/2 of a hole watt transmitter under F C C rules don't do any thing to the radio as it will not transmitt farther then one mile
They rate them on line-of-sight mileage because they advertise them to people who don't really want to do the research on the intricacies of radio and might not understand Broadcast (Tx) power and Receive (Rx) sensitivity. So they combine both factors in a line-of-sight mileage rating to make it easier to understand to people who aren't radio hobbyists or enthusiasts.
For a minute I thought T Rex had done eaten one one of those reaper peppers and swollen up!!! Lol!!! Earth to Sippy we hear you do you copy? Lol!!! You guy are to much. Good info on a fun platform! Thank you guys for all you do!!!
Is it possible to change the antenna to a longer one, maybe one attached to a leader than can be hoisted into a tree? If so, would the extend the range at all?
That's as far as I could get as well, maybe one mile. It's good if you and someone are hunting and do not get out of that range. Or if you and a loved one are shopping and don't want to keep using your phone. Another good use of this on a cruise ship. It gets really iffy when you go below due to the metal on the ship but it does work.
I feel like when they say or give the milage range. Like you were saying are. Probably in an open clear range. And actually I only use close range walkies. While hunting. If we go far out we 90 percent of the time dad, buddies, and myself use cb radios. When he was an coal driver in the mountains in the Va.,Ten.,Ky. So we have CB mounted on gators, 4 wheelers, trucks.
That radio if you are lucky will do half a mile in the town and if you sit on a big hill and with a line of sight you could get maybe 3/4 MILES and them mini antenna won't even do that
If you want to get better range you need a repeater, you get the same problem in a tower block the higher you go. so what we used to do was rig two radios up one on listen one on talk to extend the range also the weather plays a part my uncle had a transmitter and we could of picked you up got the usa good minitemanxxxxxx from wales uk big ariel
I Owen the same radio you have and I have 22 channels for family service then you add the privet codes which are not that puts you at 120 and where I am at Wich is G M R S you have eight listed as R P T repeter channels which are on a tower.
Used to carry one of those for work. Stay inside a mile and you are pretty good. Past that, with the ones we had, you were staticy at best. Good test though, Ours were not midlands, that could make a big difference!
That's not bad considering your area and the fact that Sippy was in a car. Surprisingly clear mic when transmission was good. Today was sunny and clear, would probably do a little better at night with overcast or if you were on top of one of the ridges. There are so many factors that effect distance, but 3 miles (even 1 before breakup) is impressive in the mountains. Good review and opinion of reality.
The cars are the same, they write that it travels 300 kilometers per hour but only in perfect conditions. And if I wanted in any conditions, I would hit a building, a tree etc. and I would not go anywhere. If you want to drive a car, you need billions for roads, and no one complains that the car is driving 10 km / h in difficult terrain even though it is written in the instructions, eg 220km / h. The rules are: VHF 5W portable radio station - 7km 15cm helical antenna UHF 4W portable radio station - 7km 15 cm antenna wire Portable radio station PMR / FRS 0,5W UHF - 3km 5cm antenna CB-27Mhz portable radio station (real on batteries) 2W - 3km (30cm super-short antenna) - in open and flat area. - the more favorable the terrain, the higher frequency bands gain in range. - 27Mhz band are military frequencies, they propagate well through the forest and very poorly through the city and buildings. Radiostations for this shortwave band are delicate and complicated. In the 27Mhz band, a typical antenna should have a length of about 1 meter for a portable radio, then it has an efficiency similar to VHF at 15cm and UHF 5cm length of a physical antenna. The HF radio should transmit the ground to the operator's hands in order to connect a metal element, eg a hook to the trousers should be connected to the mass of the device.
Considering you were going from house to car and car to car 3 miles is good. In towns and cities the reception is greatly diminished. In the bush it will be better but of course in the open is best. These radios are best by line of site, also the GMRS bands have a bit more transmit power which helps.
your radio's are under F C C rules and Reg's SO there are calling the shots BY the way there Is a East coast G M R S club and when thay for up and link are tower in I TALK TO CHICAGO FROM MINNESOTA
Mine work at best 2 miles in flat land... rating for 32 miles is top of mountain to valley line of sight only. Always makes me laugh how the rated range is absolute best case scenario.
Actually I have a Midland 75-822 but no one is using CB out there.This is the coast but mountains are every where. I'm mounting a Cobra 19 Ultra III on my truck and see if I can communicate with the Midland hoked like a home base with an antena on the house roof.
I had a home base radio with a antron 99 60 ft above the house worked grate I snagged an emergency call from Florida years a go but between skip and a 75 watt buster got through.
Yeah that 32 mile rating only works on a flat plane or if you're both on the same side of a gradual slope. Here in Phoenix, we are surrounded by mountains. Any direction you go to get out of town, you're going eight to ten thousand feet up in elevation. AZ is definitely not all flat ground. If you mix the poop with some flour and add an egg, you can make pancakes....
for all you hill bellies on G M R S we use a tower grid towers are 150 ft up radio to tower to radio 20 miles I do that all day every day but I have a license for that.
SSBA thank you for doing this, too many folks are getting ripped off. What if you never tested your lil radio and got into a life or death situation and the radio would not reach help? Bad thing.
Nice clear sound for a small hand held portable. I would not expect to much from these radios. Maybe midland forgot the decimal point and meant 3.2 miles. Unless they tested them on the Utah salt plain!!!.. 32 is miles is a stretch. Thank you for demonstrating .
@@StepOneSurvival I am seriously considering picking up a set and test them out with my nephew when I take him snowboarding. I will be able to check in with him while he and his friends are on the mountain instead of using the cell phone.
On these cheap UHF radios won't get you 32 miles unless you and the other person are on top of two mountains. Even on a flat plain you won't get that range. If you are able to get into a repeater maybe you can get that range. If you want long range com's go with an HF radio. With a nvis setup. You will be able to get a few hundred miles of range. Last summer I was operating my 5 watt yaesu 817nd on 20 meters with a magnetic loop antenna. Great signals Wisconsin to Florida, Texas, Colorado, and another QRP SOTA station in Canada. Thanks for the video. KD9BBN.
My radio only works up to maybe a mile and I live in Florida show everything is very flat and I can only drive maybe a few blocks before mine cuts out definitely not a 32 mile range great video thank you
This is common knowledge to most people in the prepper community. If people are complaining about this issue, I don't really understand why. I'm happy with anything that gets 2 miles or more reliably. This is not going to take the place of a phone during SHTF.
Lol it's funny that everyone who claims curvature is an issue don't even use the same numbers to equate that curvature. You know why? Because there is no measurable furniture from the surface period. Snipers do not account for curvature that's Hollywood nonsence.
true but when you are working off a 150 ft tower you do really good that is what I have to work with and I am 150 ft up on a hill so I am line of site to the tower.
Watched you're vid again and 3 miles on these radios you're using is really good looking at the size of the antannae you done pretty well to achieve this especially when the other contact was in a vehicle we have also got Midland xtra talk pmr 446 radios and find Midland to be especially good performers...once again I've seen posts on you tube where in a vehicle people haven't even got their contact so really good sorry I was half asleep the first time I viewed this but now after viewing I am really impressed....
3 miles in the city would be fantastic IMO. I have an older set of Motorola MC220R 16-Mile Talkabout 2-Way Radios that are rated to 25.6 kilometer (16 Mile) which failed at 940 meters straight line (from work to home). Now there is a lot of interference with businesses and houses but I assumed that boasting a 25.6 kilometer / 15 mile range would yield at least 1 kilometer in the city, which it did not.
@@StepOneSurvival I get that man. It would be a lot better if they outlined 32 mi over water and however much in town. 10% is still pretty good for in town honestly tho bro.
Of course costs for homegrown tests are prohibitive, but borrowing various brands and models, then testing together in one run would greatly clarify relative power, audio clarity, etc. Also, likely no difference in reception by brand, only transmission distance - also, test on one of the GMRS channels that are higher power by built-in criteria. FRS are all going to be very weak and limited regardless of brand. Urban usage is rather pointless with cell towers everywhere. Real value comes in rural areas where cell is not available, and testing in open and wooded areas makes more practical sense.
David Campbell : Yes, they're not good in cities but if you get up on a hill with no buildings in the way you will easily be able to get contacts many miles away (see link below). delboyonline.blogspot.com/p/pmr446.html
So these would be more useful in somewhere like Kansas or Nebraska where its flat, good to know I was looking at these but I don't think they would be best for New England
These type radios are very useful in a wide variety of situations but at the end of the day they are limited to terrain, buildings , etc. I have a similar set and where I live it’s flat as flat can be and 7-8 miles is best I could get in wide open country , around town, 1-3 miles . Maybe if someone was on a mountain top and someone else was on a mountain top 32 miles away and their line of sight was unobstructed and the weather was perfect, maybe? Idk. I do know they don’t talk like Rick Grimes’s radios !!😂😂
I think they kind of stretched how far the range was but I got thinking maybe the steel red tool box interfered or was it because you used Billy for the intro and not Rex, he might of put hex on the talkies...…..no there ok radios but 32 mile range is kind of hard to believe in real world conditions as you and Sippy showed, good review BA
It's just easier to get sippy cup to get her tech license with a dual band radio so u both can use simplex. That little ht radio is worthless ull have better luck with a bafoeng ht with a aftermarket whip antenna, I've seen ppl Jerry rig a wire antenna and used a ht bafoeng for sota lol
During a SHTF, people can use ham bands for emergency without license. After market longer antenna is way to go. Or like HRE said using a wire cut for the frequency you talking on or using a portable antenna tuner to match it all together. With a Antenna tuner you could practically use a fence as a antenna as long as it tunes in for a match
@@LIVINGRETIRED310 I wished the FCC didnt regulate the tech license or the general license. It should be just pay for 40 bucks every few years instead of taking a test, just sign ur name and that's it
Catch cook and can feral cat. Lordy this reminds me of using radios for work and 10 codes and the phonetic alphabet. I would get trainees for the day and I would check in in the morning and they would look at me like I was from Mars and wonder what the heck I was saying.
Its all sbout line of sight with these UHF Radios. And LOF depends on the antenna height. 5 feet Antenna height gives you 3 miles. If the other radio antene is also 5 feet you have a total range of 6 miles. At 100 feet antenna height you get aboit 28 miles. At 5000 feet about 86 miles. Tramsmitting power is not that important in UHF.
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Hold the walkie talkie upright. Antennas are somewhat directional and the best signal path is at 90 degrees to the antenna.
In WW2 the American army had the first two way radios. They weighed about 25 pounds and they only had a range of about two miles.
Still they gave our army a tremendous advantage over an enemy who had no field radios at all.
Forward observers, artillery spotters and small units made good use of those radios.
They were comparable to what you can put in your pocket today.
If your radio room is on the second floor your range will be much improved.
We use these at work and they are great! Granted the farm that I work at is only about 6 acres so not that big. For that I think these are great for small areas where everybody is still a good distance from one another.
yes to that
It is a function of the frequency, power and the size of that little antenna. Mountain top to mountaintop you might get the range they advertise. Think line of sight with these.
yes 2 miles or line of site G M R S towers are 150 ft at sites around town and run a 60 transever
are 6 o=are on the same in put tone you hi one and thay all come upa gm rs hand held is 5 watts I Owen three and a 45 watt base
lission to your elders the radio has a half of one watt that is it that is all the F C C would allow put your big boy pants on and move on. and live with it
OK let's get you back to earth family service walkie talkies are semplex big turm meaning radio to radio and that radio having a 1 and 1 half watt transmitter
will give you a one mile range only small antenna small radio let's do in kiddie
form you have a one mile leash with collar mom is mission control calling
calling the commands to dad sorry P.S the F C C has full control of that radio
as to power out put you want range more than 1 mile GO G M R S no test
to take $ 35.00 dollares thay will give you your licensee kind of like your
phone number for your radio and you use radio towers not mountains.
with a half of a watt of power you might get 12 blocks only KNOW
with a licensee radio tuned to a G M R S radio tower you will make 20 miles
that being you radio has a PL tone added to the radio then your licensee
will set you back $ 35.00 dollars will be good for the family for 10 years
we do radio towers in town and yes I have a licensee a hand held is 5watts
out put my base is 45 watts.
realy tell me how far a radio with a half a watt radio will go this is fact
one mile and your done know G M R S radio go's 20 miles from radio
to tower to radio no mountins police and fire do the same despt to tower to
car.
I have some Midland radios similar to those and my wife and I have done this same experiment, only got about 2.5 to 3 miles on flat wooded terrain down in south Alabama
In those scenarios range also depends on the density of the woods too.
NO depending on anything you are limited to a 1&1/2 watt transmitter
think shows that talk to the mail box and you could be out of service.
You got more than I did. I have an old emergency hand held cb my dad gave me from the 70's and it works great. The problem it is only one. Perhaps I'll break it out and try to see if one of those gets better range when talking to it.
I was on a 37 floor tower deck and talked to a town 90 miles away.
Thank you - it'll be great for communicating with my kids in our neighborhood when they go out to ride their bikes then.
Its great for 4 blocks.
I call them a child locater no more hallaring out the back door
UHF & VHF communications are line by sight with signal boosting by repeaters mounted on a tower nearby. Most repeaters have a code which you will need to know to add that input into your radio for that frequency. Ham radio inverted V wire antenna"s and beams for frequencies of 10 meters and up actually can shoot up and bounce against the ionosphere and come down at an angle much further away. On 10meters i talked to the iraqi communications director who was a ham radio opr using a off-setted 60 foot wire (Carolina windom)antenna The same goes for cb base stations, especially if the radio freq's are modified or open to operate on USB or LSB frequencies below cb channel 1 freq = 26965 MHz. Base station cb's most had USB (upper sideband)& LSB (lower sideband) options. I could talk from Tennessee to Barbados & Trinidad on just 4 watts of power on freq 26915 LSB while driving. The frequencies of the lower non regulated freq's ( below the sanctioned CB freq's) actually are like compressed into a tighter pattern enabling longer talk distance. We call that shooting skip. Compared to different shotgun chokes. Some makes a larger pattern and some keeps the pattern tight. Regular cb freq's is like buckshot, wide pattern and lower are like a choke keeping the pattern tight. Then the pattern can be splitted into 2 levels, USB & LSB crazy huh? Some handhelds have removable antenna's that uses a bnc connector which can be attached to a properly made coax with matching connector attached to a beam designed for the frequency range you desire to talk in. That super increases you talk distance and could push your signal through the funk that normally would stop you. A little info i thought would be helpful... By the way i am a ham radio opr
These radios are excellent they work superb hilltop to hilltop and can achieve 100s of km range you done well getting the ranges you achieved well done and also you're helper at the other end superb video post enjoyed it immensely....micky Great Britain.....p.s the hyped up ranges manufacturers put on these radios are for the radio in an ideal spot and line of sight and propogation can be a much needed factor to achieve these long ranges I have friends in Japan who use 10mw handheld radios and venture out into very high spots and they achieve hundreds of kilometres some of my pmr radios which have 0.5watts I have had 20 to 30 mile ranges so these sets never stop amazing me with these surprising distances.....and Midland do make good quality two way radios....
KNOW you are talking G M R S and thay use radio towers not mountins
each tower is 150 ft and has a 60 watt repeater which puts you at 20 miles
BY THE WAY WE ARE IN 2024 caveman
your on a hill top he is on another hill top if both hill's are more than a mile
apart you are out as both radio's have a half a watt transmitter for family service
radio.
Good topic, we tested ours on a skills hike with a group in november. In the woods we were lucky to get 40 yards. At one point our groups were about twenty yards apart with about a 12 foot high hill between us. The radios would not transmit clear. Basically on open ground if you can see line of sight then you can probably talk.
you are right
your radio has a 1& 1/2 of one watt transmitter that is why end of the block
I am on a 45 watt radio and do 20 off are tower grid but then I am up
with the big boys running 5 WATT's hand held's while you are on the new child band.
These radios work great over short distances when there are no big buildings. Tress won't be an issue. You are right however about line of sight. I live in North central Arizona surrounded by mountains and these radios dint work here either.
Definitely
trees will deflect you transmission in the summer.
We bought 28 mile of these to keep in communication when hiking got disappointed that we didn't even get a miles worth.
At home my son and I have played with them throughout the house great communication for that. Also went about a half-mile away did pretty good there however once there is more trees and other homes in a way maybe a mile and a half then it got very sanity with very little reception.
your radio runs on a 1/2 watt transmitter what do expect one mile or line of site that is it G M R S will get you 28 miles but thre is a license required.
to do 28 miles you need to one tune your radio to a tower PL tone
your way in know you need to receive you F C C licensee call sign
then you can come and talk on are towers.
IF your radio is both F R S G M R S the G M R S side will get you 20 miles
off a tower 150 ft up and a 60 watt transcever help's a lot.
family service is restricted to 1/2 a watt under rules set by the F C C
to see the G M R S site you need a tower PL tone and a radio licensee
to use it.
So what would be better? I have these in my bug out bag and lots of mountains,hills around me. Baofeng handhelds?
Same thing with the baofeng, you would have to hoist a slim jim antenna( and you can build your own) up in the trees to get a clear range with nothing interfering with it
Cool! Thank you!
I got my ham licence back in 2014 and was looking to get the newest and best radio I could afford. One of the hams at my local club gave me some great advice. He said that the antenna is what will get my signal to be heard not a better radio. More power doesn't mean more range.
Put a discone antenna in your attic for your ham radio. As good as it gets if you want to be stealthy. Make sure to ground it. Unfortunately Radio Shack sold a really good one and they are gone, not sure of another good source for one now other than eBay for the old Radio Shack one.
I was watching TV last night and to my surprise there was a Comcast commercial and T-Rex made a guest appearance ! :)
The only time I have gotten several miles is when I was on a 8,000 ft mountain and had a view of a LONG valley. I could hear 25 miles or so. On water might get long range but if in hills or forest areas, Not So Much.
becouse your radio operates on a 1/2 watt transmitter for family service
radio.
TO MUCH BEER your radio is rated at under one watt walk out to your mail box and you are done
you can always add the frequencies that those little radios are on to your baofeng. 32 miles on the Bonneville salt flats..
I am do that with my 45 watt base
I could do that with my 45 watt moble easy
Techniques to extend the range of handheld transceivers-----hold the radios vertical, and don't touch the antenna, and use the MONITOR button ( if the radio has one) to open the squelch for maximum receive. This was a good video.
there is no squalch on my hand held there is on my base I open it to check my volume only
sorry that will not work you can not monafie the radio
ONCE AGAIN GUYS MOON TO EARTH FAMMILY SERVICE IN LIMITED to
1&1/2 of a hole watt transmitter under F C C rules don't do any thing to the
radio as it will not transmitt farther then one mile
They rate them on line-of-sight mileage because they advertise them to people who don't really want to do the research on the intricacies of radio and might not understand Broadcast (Tx) power and Receive (Rx) sensitivity. So they combine both factors in a line-of-sight mileage rating to make it easier to understand to people who aren't radio hobbyists or enthusiasts.
the F C C has ruled that family service be limited to 1& 1/2 watt out put.
there is the hang up.
i got 2 midland radios for Christmas and on the box it said 36 miles and idk if it goes that far only tried 4 houses down.
Its probably 3 miles like these. Im so disappointed
For a minute I thought T Rex had done eaten one one of those reaper peppers and swollen up!!! Lol!!! Earth to Sippy we hear you do you copy? Lol!!! You guy are to much. Good info on a fun platform! Thank you guys for all you do!!!
Its random fun gotta keep it goofy
Is there a weather warn alarm with your radio? What did you pay for your radio?
It was free
Those type of radios are LBS line by sight. If you were outside ,probably be better reception .Walls of that room could be blocking
Terrain, buildings etc. make such a huge difference with these...
Definitely
buildings will kill your 1 & 1/2 WATT transmitter at less then a mile
For what its worth,If you stand outside the home and she stands outside the car the transmit and receive would be better.
this is true
Is it possible to change the antenna to a longer one, maybe one attached to a leader than can be hoisted into a tree? If so, would the extend the range at all?
It's a fixed antenna
That's as far as I could get as well, maybe one mile. It's good if you and someone are hunting and do not get out of that range. Or if you and a loved one are shopping and don't want to keep using your phone. Another good use of this on a cruise ship. It gets really iffy when you go below due to the metal on the ship but it does work.
What model radio
I feel like when they say or give the milage range. Like you were saying are. Probably in an open clear range. And actually I only use close range walkies. While hunting. If we go far out we 90 percent of the time dad, buddies, and myself use cb radios. When he was an coal driver in the mountains in the Va.,Ten.,Ky. So we have CB mounted on gators, 4 wheelers, trucks.
ONCE YOU HAVE A 1 & 1 /2 transmitter 12 blocks your done.
cobra said 38 miles NO HO TO DO IT NO radio guy to help fix radio
and I am 100 percent that not one team member owns .
'Claws and hairballs.' 😂😂😂😂
Love the humour.
What’s the link to this?
They have these for free if you spend over $250 on midlands website. I bought 2 micromobiles so since these were free I guess its a good deal.
That radio if you are lucky will do half a mile in the town and if you sit on a big hill and with a line of sight you could get maybe 3/4 MILES and them mini antenna won't even do that
If you want to get better range you need a repeater, you get the same problem in a tower block the higher you go. so what we used to do was rig two radios up one on listen one on talk to extend the range also the weather plays a part my uncle had a transmitter and we could of picked you up got the usa good minitemanxxxxxx from wales uk big ariel
I use Cobra microTalk....ACXT1035R FLT, good quality communication within 4 to 6 miles in the flat lands of the frozen Northern Ohio...
Where in northern Ohio..
that is prety good for a one and a half watt radio
Are they programmable...
I get the same interference wit my drone in the city.. signal booster antennas work jus a lil btr
Thank You SSBA
Additional channels included on 36 channel on LXT.
(EXTRA CHANNELS - FRS/GMRS - Taiwan FRS channels)
XC - FG - TW
23 - 01
24 - 03
25 - 05
26 - 07
27 - 15
28 - 17
29 - 19
30 - 21
31 - 02
32 - 04
33 - 06
34 - 08 - 05
35 - 10 - 06
36 - 12 - 13
23 - 33 also used for GMRS and 34 - 36 for FRS.
Oh snap
I Owen the same radio you have and I have 22 channels for family service
then you add the privet codes which are not that puts you at 120
and where I am at Wich is G M R S you have eight listed as R P T
repeter channels which are on a tower.
I got the midland xtalker 38 mile range but they only get 2-3 miles
The Eyes Without a Face intro was cool!!
Thank you
Used to carry one of those for work. Stay inside a mile and you are pretty good. Past that, with the ones we had, you were staticy at best.
Good test though, Ours were not midlands, that could make a big difference!
See what it is, if the package says 32 miles that means 3 miles lol
@@StepOneSurvival 32 miles is done with a tower grid at 150 FT
you do radio to tower to radio 20 miles I do that everyday on G M R S
That's not bad considering your area and the fact that Sippy was in a car. Surprisingly clear mic when transmission was good. Today was sunny and clear, would probably do a little better at night with overcast or if you were on top of one of the ridges. There are so many factors that effect distance, but 3 miles (even 1 before breakup) is impressive in the mountains. Good review and opinion of reality.
Heck the cobras I have that cost 18 bucks could handle 3. I think it's a in best conditions they say 32 miles
Those radios would be fun for your kids to play with. : )
They did lol
The cars are the same, they write that it travels 300 kilometers per hour but only in perfect conditions. And if I wanted in any conditions, I would hit a building, a tree etc. and I would not go anywhere. If you want to drive a car, you need billions for roads, and no one complains that the car is driving 10 km / h in difficult terrain even though it is written in the instructions, eg 220km / h.
The rules are:
VHF 5W portable radio station - 7km 15cm helical antenna
UHF 4W portable radio station - 7km 15 cm antenna wire
Portable radio station PMR / FRS 0,5W UHF - 3km 5cm antenna
CB-27Mhz portable radio station (real on batteries) 2W - 3km (30cm super-short antenna)
- in open and flat area.
- the more favorable the terrain, the higher frequency bands gain in range.
- 27Mhz band are military frequencies, they propagate well through the forest and very poorly through the city and buildings. Radiostations for this shortwave band are delicate and complicated.
In the 27Mhz band, a typical antenna should have a length of about 1 meter for a portable radio, then it has an efficiency similar to VHF at 15cm and UHF 5cm length of a physical antenna. The HF radio should transmit the ground to the operator's hands in order to connect a metal element, eg a hook to the trousers should be connected to the mass of the device.
Nice testing....Good stuff....
Considering you were going from house to car and car to car 3 miles is good. In towns and cities the reception is greatly diminished. In the bush it will be better but of course in the open is best. These radios are best by line of site, also the GMRS bands have a bit more transmit power which helps.
and you forgot we use towers at 150 ft and do 20 miles but you mite
like the fact you owe uncle charlie A K A the F C C for your licensee
3 miles is what i got outa our motorolas that look identcal to yours here in ky. but both had to be on top a hill
I have the sig sauer p320 X-five,X-carry and im waiting for the new X-compact X is kool sometimes
It helps to bang on the hood before starting the vehicle- no cats injured
Do research on these radios, you are funny, very entertaining video, and educational
Thank you brother
your radio's are under F C C rules and Reg's SO there are calling the shots
BY the way there Is a East coast G M R S club and when thay for up
and link are tower in I TALK TO CHICAGO FROM MINNESOTA
Mine work at best 2 miles in flat land... rating for 32 miles is top of mountain to valley line of sight only. Always makes me laugh how the rated range is absolute best case scenario.
32 miles is done with a repeater tower at 150 ft up 60 watt repeater
know you can do 20 or more.
Actually I have a Midland 75-822 but no one is using CB out there.This is the coast but mountains are every where. I'm mounting a Cobra 19 Ultra III on my truck and see if I can communicate with the Midland hoked like a home base with an antena on the house roof.
I had a home base radio with a antron 99 60 ft above the house worked grate
I snagged an emergency call from Florida years a go but between skip
and a 75 watt buster got through.
@@donalderickson-si8ww Great advice. I have to keep learning. Thanks 👍🏼
Yeah that 32 mile rating only works on a flat plane or if you're both on the same side of a gradual slope.
Here in Phoenix, we are surrounded by mountains. Any direction you go to get out of town, you're going eight to ten thousand feet up in elevation. AZ is definitely not all flat ground.
If you mix the poop with some flour and add an egg, you can make pancakes....
Lol yeah that's sh!@
for all you hill bellies on G M R S we use a tower grid towers are 150 ft up
radio to tower to radio 20 miles I do that all day every day but I have a license
for that.
Sounds loud and clear I think I'm going to buy them at Amazon
redcinos I bought that single radio for $3.75 US.
SSBA thank you for doing this, too many folks are getting ripped off. What if you never tested your lil radio and got into a life or death situation and the radio would not reach help? Bad thing.
Best thing to do is do research. After doing so a person would understand not to use these for any serious situation.
Nice clear sound for a small hand held portable. I would not expect to much from these radios. Maybe midland forgot the decimal point and meant 3.2 miles. Unless they tested them on the Utah salt plain!!!.. 32 is miles is a stretch. Thank you for demonstrating .
Its really a great Radio
@@StepOneSurvival I am seriously considering picking up a set and test them out with my nephew when I take him snowboarding. I will be able to check in with him while he and his friends are on the mountain instead of using the cell phone.
thay were tested by THE F C C and comply to the power of 1 &1/2 of one watt
dead at mail box.
thank you for the video
32 miles as the crow flies, unobstructed in the desert.
Still good for neighborhood coms in a SHTF
On these cheap UHF radios won't get you 32 miles unless you and the other person are on top of two mountains. Even on a flat plain you won't get that range. If you are able to get into a repeater maybe you can get that range. If you want long range com's go with an HF radio. With a nvis setup. You will be able to get a few hundred miles of range. Last summer I was operating my 5 watt yaesu 817nd on 20 meters with a magnetic loop antenna. Great signals Wisconsin to Florida, Texas, Colorado, and another QRP SOTA station in Canada.
Thanks for the video.
KD9BBN.
answer is a tower grid at 150 ft with a 60 watt repeater you talk to the tower
and IT transmitts out 20 miles welcome to the real world.
My radio only works up to maybe a mile and I live in Florida show everything is very flat and I can only drive maybe a few blocks before mine cuts out definitely not a 32 mile range great video thank you
32 miles is done on G M R S with repeater towers and a F C C license as I have one.
Buen aporte y buen video compañero yo tengo un midland y van de maravilla la verdad un saludo
Lol the intro brother !!! xD
This is common knowledge to most people in the prepper community. If people are complaining about this issue, I don't really understand why. I'm happy with anything that gets 2 miles or more reliably. This is not going to take the place of a phone during SHTF.
veritasfiles
: The problem is that in a SHTF situation there probably won't be any phones....they'll all be "off-line".
32 miles “”””” Line Of Sight “””””, curvature of the earth is 6 ft in 6 miles. You can’t transmit through what you can’t see through.
Lol it's funny that everyone who claims curvature is an issue don't even use the same numbers to equate that curvature. You know why? Because there is no measurable furniture from the surface period. Snipers do not account for curvature that's Hollywood nonsence.
true but when you are working off a 150 ft tower you do really good
that is what I have to work with and I am 150 ft up on a hill so I am
line of site to the tower.
Watched you're vid again and 3 miles on these radios you're using is really good looking at the size of the antannae you done pretty well to achieve this especially when the other contact was in a vehicle we have also got Midland xtra talk pmr 446 radios and find Midland to be especially good performers...once again I've seen posts on you tube where in a vehicle people haven't even got their contact so really good sorry I was half asleep the first time I viewed this but now after viewing I am really impressed....
0:00 whaaaaaaaaaaat?
Good video but that intro scarred me for life
Simply walking outside would have done wonders for your transmission and reception.
Exactly - and holding the radio upright instead of sideways..
3 miles in the city would be fantastic IMO. I have an older set of Motorola MC220R 16-Mile Talkabout 2-Way Radios that are rated to 25.6 kilometer (16 Mile) which failed at 940 meters straight line (from work to home). Now there is a lot of interference with businesses and houses but I assumed that boasting a 25.6 kilometer / 15 mile range would yield at least 1 kilometer in the city, which it did not.
32 miles is what this company has on the package. I'm so disappointed
@@StepOneSurvival I get that man. It would be a lot better if they outlined 32 mi over water and however much in town. 10% is still pretty good for in town honestly tho bro.
"Slapping an X on something doesn't make it cooler" says the guy with an X on his hat
Of course costs for homegrown tests are prohibitive, but borrowing various brands and models, then testing together in one run would greatly clarify relative power, audio clarity, etc. Also, likely no difference in reception by brand, only transmission distance - also, test on one of the GMRS channels that are higher power by built-in criteria. FRS are all going to be very weak and limited regardless of brand. Urban usage is rather pointless with cell towers everywhere. Real value comes in rural areas where cell is not available, and testing in open and wooded areas makes more practical sense.
🤓definitely
you can find small yagi type antenna's that would help
These radios wont take external antennas. The xtalkers fall under FRS rules. No external or removable antennas allowed.
Nice video
Yeah, I bought a set for my wife and I. In the city, the range is about 2 blocks. Any structures between the 2 units kills comms. Sigh.
David Campbell
: Yes, they're not good in cities but if you get up on a hill with no buildings in the way you will easily be able to get contacts many miles away (see link below).
delboyonline.blogspot.com/p/pmr446.html
Anyone who don’t like cats, just ain’t had em cooked right.
So these would be more useful in somewhere like Kansas or Nebraska where its flat, good to know I was looking at these but I don't think they would be best for New England
Oh these are kinda doo doo in Kansas
Gotta play with the new toys lol
Good review. They definitely should advertise 32 miles. Not fair
Lol
They probably mean 3 or 2 miles.
I 5hink the radio can go 32 miles, but TV is still holding it back
I appreciate the highlight Staff Sergeant Bad Ass
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These type radios are very useful in a wide variety of situations but at the end of the day they are limited to terrain, buildings , etc. I have a similar set and where I live it’s flat as flat can be and 7-8 miles is best I could get in wide open country , around town, 1-3 miles . Maybe if someone was on a mountain top and someone else was on a mountain top 32 miles away and their line of sight was unobstructed and the weather was perfect, maybe? Idk. I do know they don’t talk like Rick Grimes’s radios !!😂😂
I need those Rick Grimes Radio's lol
Lol you and I both sir. I also need those “ last forever batteries “ they are rocking!
Love the Ted Nugent bumper sticker.
I think they kind of stretched how far the range was but I got thinking maybe the steel red tool box interfered or was it because you used Billy for the intro and not Rex, he might of put hex on the talkies...…..no there ok radios but 32 mile range is kind of hard to believe in real world conditions as you and Sippy showed, good review BA
Definitely
MOST CARS RUN ON "HORSE POWER" YOURS RUNS ON "CAT POWER"....
great test....thumbs up...…...X files lol take care brother
Take care brother
It's just easier to get sippy cup to get her tech license with a dual band radio so u both can use simplex. That little ht radio is worthless ull have better luck with a bafoeng ht with a aftermarket whip antenna, I've seen ppl Jerry rig a wire antenna and used a ht bafoeng for sota lol
Yeah a home system is better
During a SHTF, people can use ham bands for emergency without license. After market longer antenna is way to go. Or like HRE said using a wire cut for the frequency you talking on or using a portable antenna tuner to match it all together. With a Antenna tuner you could practically use a fence as a antenna as long as it tunes in for a match
@@LIVINGRETIRED310 I wished the FCC didnt regulate the tech license or the general license. It should be just pay for 40 bucks every few years instead of taking a test, just sign ur name and that's it
You need to be outside to any kind of range test. Being in a building or even a car will cut down in the range.
Dude my son has the exactly same radio as you but it's not getting any body on his
Must be the privacy codes.
Ok cool
Catch cook and can feral cat. Lordy this reminds me of using radios for work and 10 codes and the phonetic alphabet. I would get trainees for the day and I would check in in the morning and they would look at me like I was from Mars and wonder what the heck I was saying.
Rock on..
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Start trying to talk
Sippy comes on
Start trying to talk
Sippy comes on
Repeat untill viewers can not stop laughing.
You being indoors makes all the difference in the world. Kills a lot of range. Try it being outside.
Right
Yep-sir, 32 miles,.. From shore to a boat in international waters.
@SavageSurvival I have actually gotten 30 miles with 0.8 watts. It was hilltop to hilltop, though, and the other guy had a large antenna.
Lobsterman with a thyroid issue lol @ 0:04
Its all sbout line of sight with these UHF Radios. And LOF depends on the antenna height. 5 feet Antenna height gives you 3 miles. If the other radio antene is also 5 feet you have a total range of 6 miles. At 100 feet antenna height you get aboit 28 miles. At 5000 feet about 86 miles. Tramsmitting power is not that important in UHF.
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Good video lots of LOL.
Hey..I know Ted..He has hunted my area Sioux Lookout Ontario..
Nugent has been to Sioux?
billie says......what about a heatseekin one will that call in farther