*IMPORTANT* Things You Must Know Before Boost! (Broke & Boosted Ep14)
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2016
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Here are a few tidbits of information that I didn't talk about during the project which I think are pertinent pieces of information if you want to keep your engine safe! (Sorry about the random timing caption in the beginning..... windows movie maker at it again)
Set your timing (this video shows 10 degrees, use less if boosted): • 2 for 1 Special: Miata...
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This is probably the most informative car build series on RUclips, always find myself coming back to it every few months
Your website is the freaking bomb!!!! So informative and well organized! You're super smart and you have my respect for helping those understand boosting for their Miata. You're the real MVP!
Awesome tips ! This series has helped me so much on my build !
My god those clips at the end, it sounds so cool! Nice work Greg!
Holy shit the sound is amazing! Can't wait for my car to be finally boosted. All I need is a reseal for my rx8 injectors, a downpipe (and straight through exhaust, so just a pipe), some surgery on my manifold and an exhaust manifold gasket. I'm getting excited already!
Although I had finished my Turbo Miata Project, before you started Broke & Boosted. I'm still glade you did this series. I really learned a lot. Now that I get to redo it over again, after blowing the motor. I will do it flowing many of your useful advise.
Nice tips!
Nike!!!!!!
Nike1600 budget Miata build confirmed?
waddup
Luv ur vids
Can't wait to see more videos. And the car sounds great!
good work Greg! wish you were this side of thr pond when i start my build!
Nice video. Def sounds good so far. Turn up that boost!
ok thank you for your info! your channel is awesome man keep them coming:)!!!!
I have so much respect for you
even though it's budget, it's awesome you do things the correct way!
A Bosch blow off valve from german/swedish cars is a cheap alternative. I paid 20 bucks, and its good for up to 20psi.
Awsome! Love the driving shot aftherwards :)
Awesome video! Great details for sure. You have to diagnose whether you have air, oil or water leaks. Ps I have a 6:1 disk if you end up needing one. I looks like it accelerates in 3rd LOL!
Thanks for the tips! I just bought a 1.8 with a begi turbo kit on it and I'm tweaking all the little things to try to get it where I want it and your videos make it super easy! keep up the good work man!
Thanks man good to hear!
+TheCarPassionChannel what do you recommend for an exhaust? I'm basically where broke and boosted is right now, but I need an intercooler and exhaust, my plan was to find a high flow muffler and have a muffler shop just connect everything with 2.5 inch pipe. I know you run the race bullet on your other car but I'm assuming it's always very loud? as long as it's not louder than my Brz was with a muffler delete on it I'm fine.
Josh Hill If you ran open downpipe on a turbo Miata I doubt it would be near as loud as a straight piped n/a BRZ, lol. Turbos quiet the exhaust down considerably.
+TheCarPassionChannel not entirely straight piped, just no muffler from the axel back, still had two cats on it. even then it was loud, but not in a bad way ;)
I don't understand anything in this video... boy I have a long way to go before I turbo my miata...
The fact that you realize and admit that is a huge step in the right direction. I see too many people turbo their cars when they really weren't ready. You'll get there... research research research!
Jacob Mortensen I'm in the same boat man, 2002 focus dohc here doing tons of research
Same. Is that red thing a maitai?
I’m feelin like I need to study in 2019. Just bought na 91 roadster. I will take your advice. I hope 🤞
Same man. I need a class or a tutor on this stuff for me to understand this episode better.
At least it sounds fast!
I miss my Turbo MX5 so much 8(
Haha yeah, it's probably about as fast as a stock NB on such low boost. But that'll change soon!
What are you going to do about exhaust? You should see how those dirt cheap EBAY exhaust systems hold up for budget boosting.
+draggonhedd I've got the manzo exhaust off of eBay, it's been on the car for about 4-5 months now. Drones like crazy but it's held up well and sounds pretty nice at WOT.
Exactly what went through my mind. It accelerates pretty much the same way. Very nice for 1200$.
yossi126 Not too shabby right? Bottom end is still pretty wimpy but it has noticeably more power up top even with only a few psi and stock exhaust.
Great work dude!!!!!!!!!
LOL....I've been watching a lot of your videos.....Until I saw the end of this one did I realize...we live in the same hood! Hahaha. Awesome.
thanks I will.. definitely doing a great job with your videos!! 🖒🖒🖒
Can't wait for the next vid of the mbc.
I used too live right there by you Greg haha north park I lived off kansas street , I really miss SD
Awesome channel and video man! Much better than most of the "haggard" channels.
I'm looking forward to the next episode. I like this series (Y)
I really like the way it sounds
You should definitely make something like that test. Or a video about things you need to know before boosting
love your videos!
OMG, that sound :O :DD love it
loved the ending
Awesome! So glad so see B&B finally running.
Someone needs to take a turbo and modify the housing to look like a giant hairdryer. Paint it pink, laser etch "Conair", use it to boost a Miata and have it sticking out through the hood. Instant crowd pleaser.
........................this might need to become a reality
+TheCarPassionChannel
A second Miata with a cheap turbo build and a RUclips following would be the perfect candidate, just saying ;)
omfg it sounds sooo freaking nice!!!
Sounds mint my friend
Love that flutter
Another tip is before you hook up your engine breathers to your intake run the pipes through an OIL CATCH CAN! Oil in your air/fuel make the mixture lean (er), which means KABLEMO! Just buy the cheapest one you can find and throw some Metal Scouring Pads in there, better than nothing!
5:58 Darth Vader breathing
Hey! Try using a VW 1.8T oem diverter valve. I run it on mine as a BOV and it works very well! Cheap too.. got mine used at $20. OEM reliability is also a plus.
Ditto. New for like 25$. Going to use it in my build and recirculate it.
im boostin my 1600cc vw. this is all very useful info
Love your vidz. You should make a video like mighty car mods that summarizes how to turbo in 5 mins. you should do that and show the final cost as well. i know you bought alot of parts that u didnt use so it would be helpful to us. Thanks keep it up.
I think you should spend the extra money and get the Higher Quality Blow-Off valve. It will help you save the Compressor rings in the future.
I can't wait till your cars on board episode
ME NEITHER!!
Excellent
Dat turbo noise
Still working my way through your videos and checking in on miataturbo.net. Lot to learn about these fun little cars. Just checked out my first couple of miata's today. Not found the right one yet, but looking forward to putting this into practice.
93 blk tan top n int.5spd 148gs. Seattle area asking 3gs.. Lots of new parts just in need of cash gr8 car..contact me
great content
Love your videos dude!! Been watching the for ever and just now im thinking to get in the turbo situation :p
For an mk2.5 1.6L using a tdo4 do you suggest using a Fmu? Only for low boost lets say 0,5bar ? If yes can you direct me where to get one or what is the correct one to get because im reading a lot off different info to this! Thanxs
That flutter😍
that blow off sounded so bad ass omg
it sounds good like it is,can't wait to see more.....have you looked at the Kinugawa adjustable wastegate actuator yet?...I purchased one,it came with six springs,the quality is top notch as far as I can see and it only cost me 74.49$ on ebay!
I've seen it. It looks legit, but won't be as cheap as my DIY boost controller!
TheCarPassionChannel I made my boost controller too...it's not hard but ima watch your tutorial anyway because the way you explain things is near perfect....respect!
I like how you upped the appearance game, black shirt, combed hair...what cologne were you wearing? Did you include your dry cleaning in $1221.00? (On a serious note, good job and I am truly impressed. You earn beer and pizza points for this.)
I'll take it!
'dat turbo surge sound tho
Awsome
that seems to run quiet well!!
San Diego 🔥✌🏽
tight. Just did clutch and flywheel. 500 miles > forever. Oh and dont stab your transmissions without a pilot bearing installed. recreational maintenance!
Top secret tip to avoid clutch break in: buy a 6-puck! Hahaha. Literally broken in within a day.
+TheCarPassionChannel some of us are civilized, Greg.
Grant Smith Hahaha
I used a 30 dollar sequential bov.. Those really can't leak by their natural design
The boost pressure seals it more rather than leaking like a normal one
Sequential bov on anything under 20 psi isnt worth it
Does the down pipe fit on to the stock exhaust? I’m planning the build and figure out what all I need to have to be ready go when I start the turbo build.
that is bad ass! really want to turbo m 95 miata just don't know where to start kinda nervous about it haha
www.thecarpassionchannel.com/faq will give you some info on how to get started. :)
I have seen you driving around on Ell Cajon Blvd.
O2 sensor modifier? What's that?
And why would the wideband affect how it runs? Isn't it purely for monitoring? Idk how you get a stock ecu to read a wide band.
I really enjoy your videos but sometimes i end up confused like when you say we need to change out the disk, what disk? idk just saying not all of us know what you are saying haha love the videos keep it up.
Sorry I know sometimes I move fast. I don't want to drag the video out and get boring either, but check out Episode 11!! I talk about the FMU discs there.
Hey man, just wanted to know how getting it smog checked goes(I live in California as well) Are you able to smog check it fine?
RIP FReddy. Gone but not forgotten xd
still waiting bro!
Hi I hope you can answer this I wasnt paying attention apart from the afr did you plug the stock 02 sensor into your down pipe or did you just run the afr only
Hey bud, question for you regarding timing and mid rpm cruising on the highway, does your stock ecu handle it fine? I'm wondering if at normal driving if the timing might advance too much under partial boost and cause some detonation. This is on a map sensor car
Manuqtix Manuqtix what are you even talking about?
thank for the sub
Do you have to set the ignition timing? Do u mean the timing chain or what? Im gonna run 4 psi its my 1st turbo build just started buying turbo parts. Just ordered the intercooler and piping next is turbo. Im running stock internals that's why im running low boost. Its not a miata btw. What is a better turbo a t3 or a t3/t4 and what is the difference. Sorry for all the questions just trying to get thus right.
did you keep your ac on this miata? if so, what manifold did you use? i want to build a miata turbo and keep my ac and power steering.
i did not see the AFR measurement, could you show that while open loop or full throtle?
It definitely seems like most of the boost is bleeding off but I can understand the hesitation since it’s a stock block
Yes I'm bleeding it off through a wormhole to another dimension
xD love it, sounds good though. I’ve been watching a lot of videos to get ideas for a cheap drift car
Dude, do you reckon a 240WHP like Phill from CarThrottle would be okay and wouldn't decrease the engine's lifespan too quickly? Cause if I Turbo a Miata I want at least 190WHP. Obviously I'd do a custom exhaust to make her breath better. I was thinking a TD04 or TD05 Scooby Turbo used would be a good strong piece of kit?
240whp is getting pretty high for a stock engine. With a good tune and use of common sense while driving, it can still last a long time, but I usually recommend staying between 200-220whp just so you have a little more headroom and margin for error. TD04-15G is a really good match for the Miata engine. Smaller TD04's still work well like the 13T but they take a little more boost to get into the 200's
dope broo tell me u stay in Michigan lol...
so when you say 8 degrees base timing, you are only setting your timing back 2 degrees from the factory 10?
i need an exhaust manifold. what do you have looks nice for the miata.
you should make a video on how to tune the wastecate and bov?
Wait, how did you get that sound without a blow off valve? Im just curious
first off thanks for your videos.. really helpful!! I just finished my turbo build and started it 2 days ago.. car idles fine on start up but when I let go off the gas slowly it will stay around 2k rpms. i feel like the air pressure leaves the throttle slightly open because I can manually close the throttle and the idle will go down to normal. any ideas on why?
Air pressure won't make the throttle stay open. I'd start by inspecting the throttle body and throttle cable.
Do i need to do anything to the vvt or does it take care of it itself
Ihave 1.8 miata where should i connect the blow off valve and the boost gauge along with the o2 sensor clamp ? I m following your set up on my miata but mine is a little different when it comes to the intake manifold vacuum lines
o2 modifier anywhere on the intake manifold, BOV reference anywhere on the manifold, boost gauge anywhere on the manifold.
thanks for the quick reply.. I have done some research and it looks like most people say the idle valve should be on the intake side of the turbo but you put it right before the throttle body.. does it matter if it sees Boost? since on stock it sees only vacuum
I've never seen anyone hook the idle valve up pre-turbo, that shouldn't have any affect on it. Stock it actually doesn't see any vacuum, there is no vacuum in the intake piping like there is inside the manifold. What ECU are you running?
To anyone who's seen the entire series so far...
Does this series explain the turbo process efficiently to learn from? Can the information be applied to turbo projects for other cars?
The general knowledge is pretty much applicable to any vehicle, but the more specific stuff isn't.
Hey greg, What motor oil do you use in your miata?
+TheCarPassionChannel can you make a video on how to do a ls2 truck coil convertion and talk about it. It would be realy interesting
You can get a blow off valve out of a VW/Audi 1.8 20vt engine for next to nothing if you are looking for a really cheap blow off. They are good for up to around 1 bar.
Those arent bov's , those are diverter valves
The 20vt "diverter valve," is by all means a blow off valve. A lot of people have used them on turbo conversions as bov and they work.
where are the best places to get a miata for cheap because it's hard to find one where I live
can use the same build without a ecu using a t3 at 8 psi?
hi please where i can get 4 psi spring for t28 turbo wastegate? thanks
maybe the cheap blowoff valves are designed like that to make them cheaper (They always let out a certain amount of air so it doesn't blow up) idk tho
Hallo there,well done for your knowledge,and for your work. I have a question for you,do you know a way to monitor the detonation? (except for knocking sensor and light)
I mean,when i tune on the road(closed road) how can i monitor the detonation?
Try searching "homemade det cans" a lot of people make their own devices for listening to the engine. Personally I just leave the ignition timing conservative until I can get on the dyno.
Thanks a lot for your fast respond. I have already search it a lot,and i know this way but it looks like to me a bit strange.. Ok thanks a lot! Well done again for your work.
Greg , next I feel like you should start a NA8 turbo build.
It would be 99% the same, minus the oil feed location and EGR delete, haha.
+TheCarPassionChannel hmm , I hope so , so far I feel like the 1.8 engine bay feels much more cramped especially in front with stock setup + large radiator... So even the FMIC install looks a big ridiculous to pill off compared to the 1.6 as you know is tricky.
So if I'm using bandaids (FMU, o2 signal mod, etc) with the stock ECU, do I have to use a recirculating BOV? I just want the pssshhht sound from the VTA ones
You should recirc it, but you could always try without. Even if you recirc it, you'll still hear it.
I run 22psi boost on my spec R S15 with no blow off and shes still going strong ;P
Excellent
i did not retart ignition :/ still 10'
quick question - where is your wideband bung located
mine was aprox 20cm/8inches behind turbine - it is now fried :/
You can just barely see it when I show the downpipe. It's probably 12" or so away from the turbine? I've go a buddy that has his literally 2" away and it's been fine for a long time, I think it can involve a bit of luck. I advise picking up an o2 sensor heatsink.
Sir, can you make a list of links on your next video of where we can get the things you used like the o2 sensor modifier, your fmu, and things like that?
Yeah I'll do something like that in the near future.
+TheCarPassionChannel you're the man!
That bus at the end almost had you. :P
Bro that bus was cooking
That bus never had him. That bus never had its car.
You owe me a 10-passenger bus
lol
so what are the final numbers, did you dyno it?
i just bought a 1.6 i really want a torsen diff. What is required to get that done? also getting a new clutch and flywheel anything i should replace while transmission is out.
The front and rear trans seals are always a good idea. Also, the rear main seal on the engine! For a Torsen swap, all you need is the Torsen, axles and driveshaft from any 1994-2002 1.8 car (I'm not sure if axles/ds are different in the 03+ Tochigi Fuji Super LSD or MSM torsens) and driveshaft bolts from a 1.8.
stock ecu. lol my budget went off track so I couldn't get the ms.. I have the same set up you have except on a 1.8 97 miata, I had it connected exactly like you have and I thought that might be the reason why the idle acts up. but I guess I'm wrong so I gotta go in and check the throttle cables and butterfly spring.. weird thing is that I didn't have that problem before turbo :/
Make sure all your piping is setup so there's no air getting into the engine that hasn't passed through the MAF also.