Josh Allen: Right Place, Wrong Time - Full Documentary (Patrick Mahomes Rivalry)

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025

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  • @4thandtroll
    @4thandtroll  15 дней назад +9

    For a FOURTH time in five years, Josh Allen faced Patrick Mahomes and couldn’t vanquish his White Whale. WHEN will he FINALLY be at the right place at the right time??
    Check out our latest documentary -- Aaron Rodgers & the Jets: For a Second Time.
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    • @rodrigogois
      @rodrigogois 11 дней назад +3

      Oh wow... 4 Times... Looks like another chapter NEEDS to be added in this already AWESOME documentary! Please do. Allen is a beast tho. Great game and congrats Mahomes!
      Will look the Rodgers one.

  • @TDR-0484
    @TDR-0484 Год назад +387

    Awesome documentary. As a Chiefs fan I have a lot of respect for Allen. The only QB that I'll stress out over as a fan when we know hes coming to town. Thankfully, we have Mahomes. Best 2 QBs in football.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +16

      Hopefully many more incredible games between the two of them. Glad you liked it!

    • @mlong9071
      @mlong9071 Год назад +4

      It's honestly incredible to watch them each year and I hope we have another decade of great meaningfull january games.

    • @Bighoodiekid
      @Bighoodiekid Год назад +46

      Joe Burrow doesn't stress y'all out?

    • @173jaSon371
      @173jaSon371 Год назад +4

      Here is a weird stat I dug up the other day that I found very interesting.
      Mahomes in 1 score games; 42-24 (.636 win%)
      Allen in 1 score games; 27-27 (.500 win%)
      Brady's final 7 years in 1 score games; 34-19 (.642 win%)
      Now let's peak at Buffalo's defenses since 2020, by DVOA(defense-adjusted value over average)
      Buffalo since 2020: 11th, 1st, 2nd, 12th(average 6th best)
      KC's defenses since 2020: 16th, 22nd, 14th, 7th(average 15th best)
      Brady's defenses from 2020-2022: 5th, 11th, 13th. (average 10th best)
      I'll stand by the fact that the combo of his consistently inconsistent turnover issue and McDermott's conservative play calling while ahead will keep them from ever succeeding. Since he entered the league, he has 5 more fumbles and 4 more INTs than ANY QB in football. Plus their cap situation is only getting worse from here on. Allen and Diggs will cost double next season, Von Miller is un-cuttable, etc.
      I think a different QB will be considered 2nd best pretty shortly, within a few seasons at best. He's great but super volatile on a game-to-game basis and on a team with an ancient defense now. Only saving grace is his playoff performances have been good

    • @Jesse-Jackson
      @Jesse-Jackson Год назад +19

      @Bighoodiekid not really. His Super Bowl window is essentially closed after this season he just can't seem to stay healthy enough. Not to mention their cap-space is all but gone with Burrow and Chase's contracts kicking in this year and key departures like Higgins. Josh Allen is much more Mahomes-esque in the sense he can put a team on his back literally with his runs and arm. Burrow relies too much on Chase and Higgins and his RBs. All of which will be gone next year.

  • @gregsutton2400
    @gregsutton2400 Год назад +218

    Who the hell are you this might be the best football documentary I've ever seen on RUclips

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +39

      Just guys being dudes

    • @gregsutton2400
      @gregsutton2400 Год назад +11

      You're setting the standard man@@4thandtroll

    • @midwesttraffikc271
      @midwesttraffikc271 Год назад +1

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @Jay-o3t1h
      @Jay-o3t1h Год назад +2

      ​@@4thandtrollI think you can take a bow fellas 🎉 id recommend watch a glitch in the matrix josh Allen

    • @robfreeman5783
      @robfreeman5783 Год назад

      @24:00 to 42:00 is incredible.

  • @blkdragonfly89
    @blkdragonfly89 Год назад +125

    It's bittersweet, as a Bills fan. Something I thought of the other day: Mahomes is like Goku, naturally gifted, always finding a way to win when he's needed the most. And Allen is Vegeta: that one half-step behind, but an absolute beast in his own right. His success is based off personal ambition, persistence, and his driven nature. But no matter how good he gets, Goku manages to be that one iota better. Seems quite apropos in my mind.

    • @ericbontheweb
      @ericbontheweb Год назад +8

      I always liked Vegeta more

    • @sulaymankhan5014
      @sulaymankhan5014 Год назад +7

      plot armor

    • @matthewdeeks3092
      @matthewdeeks3092 Год назад +5

      @GrilthVatore Allen has also earned that Superbowl so much more than Mahomes and it has evaded him. In the playoffs, it has not been Allen that has failed, it has been His defense. Also, the crazy luck that has followed the Chiefs is wild.

    • @danpan6249
      @danpan6249 11 месяцев назад

      @GrilthVatore your not a chiefs fan. no chiefs fan or regular fan thinks josh is better than patrick.lol your a bills fan acting as a chiefs fan to lick allens ass. lol player for player bills have a better roster than chiefs. chiefs are in a rebuild year lol with no wr. lol. allen is just second fiddle simple as that. he wouldnt do anything in this years chiefs squad

    • @danpan6249
      @danpan6249 11 месяцев назад +34

      @GrilthVatore allen is not a better qb. and your not a chiefs fan.

  • @lindsaydoke9308
    @lindsaydoke9308 Год назад +48

    The best Bills video of all.
    Imagine a QB who wants to carry the city of Buffalo on his back every year. A city with the most loyal fans who have been through everything from tragedy to disappointment . I've been a fan for over 45 years I remember it all. I have a dream ...of Josh walking in downtown Buffalo in a parade and celebtration that will close the city for days. Seeing Jim Kelly tear up when he talks to the millions of fans how he planted the seed. Marv Levy knowing his dream of being alive when he shares the Superbowl with Bills Mafia. All the Bills Alumni everyone in pure joy When a young giant of a man with a humble resilient character takes to the podiun and says 5 simple words..Buffalo we finally did it.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +3

      Here’s to your loyalty and that dream coming true! 🦬

    • @unscproductions5023
      @unscproductions5023 Год назад +1

      That ain’t never happening

    • @Heisenberg7-ix4le
      @Heisenberg7-ix4le Год назад +1

      ⁠@@unscproductions5023as a bills fan I’m gonna have no matter what, bills mafia is strong, we’re gonna do it some day

    • @Heisenberg7-ix4le
      @Heisenberg7-ix4le Год назад +1

      Let’s go Buffalo I got faith no matter what, we’re gonna do it some day and it’s gonna be amazing, we’ve been through so much pain and stayed strong, it’s gonna take work but is gonna happen

    • @__Ryan_
      @__Ryan_ Год назад

      @@unscproductions5023go organize your card collection kid

  • @wedlowww
    @wedlowww Год назад +36

    Chiefs fan here, this is amazing and respect to Josh Allen

  • @georgebishop6745
    @georgebishop6745 10 месяцев назад +6

    13 seconds was all on McDermott, kicking the ball in the end zone instead of a squib kick lol.

  • @KCVillains
    @KCVillains Год назад +122

    I’m a Chiefs fan and I really love how you put this story together. It’s nice to see things from the other side of the table. Keep up the great work!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +5

      We appreciate it!

    • @CorvetteStingray
      @CorvetteStingray Год назад +4

      It's one of the greatest Chiefs hype up videos ever lol. I love it!

    • @ginkamikaze2
      @ginkamikaze2 Год назад +1

      Yeah, man... after this year I really feel sorry for Allen's situation... hopefully Pat makes Burrow feel the same way next year... it's 1-1 in crunchtime between them and I'd love to see those Macaulay Caulkin tears after an AFC title game... maybe even the first threepeat... who knows?!?...

    • @CorvetteStingray
      @CorvetteStingray Год назад +1

      @@ginkamikaze2 3peat inbound

    • @BlackDevilGamer138
      @BlackDevilGamer138 11 месяцев назад

      I agree like as chief's fans we love Mahomes but going against him is a nightmare I understand the hate abit better now

  • @thomasburns3345
    @thomasburns3345 Год назад +120

    I laughed, I cried. I felt the lowest of lows and I soared the highest of highest. This video encapsulates the Josh Allen experience to a tee.
    Bills season ticket holder here. I was there for a large chunk of the moments shown and watched intently on TV for the rest. I still believe he will get us the first Lombardi for our city. I believe it.
    Thanks for this ride.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +4

      Glad you liked it, friend! Here’s to your loyalty and a better next chapter for Josh Allen’s career 🦬

    • @guledbludybdk5597
      @guledbludybdk5597 Год назад +1

      Sorry to say this but hes never doing that while mahomes burrow and lamar are still in the league

    • @ER-sj4vk
      @ER-sj4vk Год назад +12

      @@guledbludybdk5597 he was 13 seconds away from going to the Super Bowl. You act like it’s not a nail biter everytime they play each other.
      - a chiefs fan

    • @timhix588
      @timhix588 Год назад

      Lamar has no clutch gene in his body abd burrow is a system qb. Brock Purdy is better than burrow 🤷‍♀️​@@guledbludybdk5597

    • @BillswithBK
      @BillswithBK Год назад +3

      As long as we have Josh Allen our window is open 💪🏼

  • @fishels3895
    @fishels3895 3 месяца назад +4

    I keep coming back to this video for the beginning alone. It really sticks with me on a deep and personal level
    I was accepted to my dream college in 2012 but fell ill and have remained disabled since then. (Long story)
    I was supposed to be a normal guy with a normal job and family. I thought I was going to get to be happy. I hope there’s a timeline out there where a happy me exists. I’m sad I have to be in this one 😞

  • @ryanthelion2858
    @ryanthelion2858 Год назад +65

    I'm sorry this incredible documentary has so few views. This is a great perspective of Josh Allen's career so far. I can't imagine what it takes as a player of his caliber to deal with this. Very few play the game with his drive to succeed. May the Bills get what they have clawed at for years with such passion. Time will tell how his myth ends, but he has made his mark.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +7

      Thank you, friend! We forget how hard it is to win it all. We’ve been spoiled by Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes to think if a player is good they’ll eventually get a ring. Glad you liked the film!

    • @mlong9071
      @mlong9071 Год назад +5

      I'm as big of a bills fan as it gets and to be honest this is hard for me to watch, I'm embarrassed to say that cuz it's just a game that really is just a distraction from real problems but in Buffalo our environment is ties so tightly to our team. I'm sure many more views will come but it may just be a bit too soon .

    • @salvatoreturieo5803
      @salvatoreturieo5803 Год назад

      It just got on 3 days ago

    • @173jaSon371
      @173jaSon371 Год назад +1

      What? Lol even the worst backups had to bust ass to make the NFL. I do not doubt that Allen has worked incredibly hard to make huge strides in his game, but I never understand this whole "putting down everyone else to make the guy I like sound better" logic. Comes off in poor taste imo. The only way any player cracks a chance at a practice squad is by busting their ass for a LONG time. Look at Malcolm Butler or Kurt Warner.

    • @danpan6249
      @danpan6249 11 месяцев назад

      no he hasnt. hes a over hyped hero ball player. thats a great athlete. he has low iq in crucial moments all the time. eveyone just ignores his faults because hes a freak athlete. not a good quarterback. throws more interceptions than anyone in history

  • @mjmiat
    @mjmiat Год назад +52

    9k views is criminal for this masterpiece

    • @YT_OGViewer
      @YT_OGViewer Год назад +2

      Up to 56k now thank god. I think and hope this video will end up with hundreds of thousands of views. Just an unreal way of telling this story

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      @RUclips_OriginalViewer These are the day 1 people ✊

    • @larry2281
      @larry2281 Год назад

      @@4thandtroll Vid had 1.4k when I first watched it. Crazy it has 61k views just like that.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      @larry2281 thanks for being one of the people to get it going! 🙌

  • @Mazurk15
    @Mazurk15 Год назад +53

    One of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen. Its difficult as a Bills fan to endure Brady for nearly 20 years, then we finally get our guy… and the best QB of the generation is in our conference and is surrounded by excellent coaching.
    I still believe the Bills will get one or two (just one before I die, please), and my hope is that Allen plays the Manning as Mahomes is clearly the Brady of this generation (not saying they’re the same players by any means). Allen is truly a unicorn, and it’s hard for me to imagine that the dominoes don’t fall in his favor at least once during his career.
    … at least I hope! 😂

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +13

      Josh Allen is too talented to be another “great” to exit without a Super Bowl. Brady didn’t get the best of Manning every year, perhaps Allen will finally get his against Mahomes

    • @Mazurk15
      @Mazurk15 Год назад +4

      @@4thandtroll Wholeheartedly agree. Again, kudos on an excellent video. I’ll be looking for your next upload!

    • @10thletter40
      @10thletter40 Год назад +6

      It sucks. We have huge QB talent in the AFC in now it seems every division.
      If Stroud keeps it up, we have him, Burrow, Allen, and Mahomes. A powerhouse anywhere you look.

    • @TheRedgtv2000
      @TheRedgtv2000 Год назад

      Keep on dreaming and nothing is wrong there!

    • @jamesrussell2051
      @jamesrussell2051 Год назад +1

      As long as they have McDermott as HC and Beane stays so over committed to players, they will win nothing. What has developed the last two years is the fruition of criticisms I highlighted four years ago. They are an average team with an amazing talent as QB1.

  • @jbschroll
    @jbschroll Год назад +64

    As a Chiefs fan, this is an outstanding documentary. It makes everyone understand how incredible Josh Allen is, and how difficult he actually is to beat.

    • @gizzy9312
      @gizzy9312 Год назад +2

      I think u mean how incredible Mahomes is

    • @brandondickie3456
      @brandondickie3456 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@gizzy9312that’s the factor. Allen is elite. Mahomes is the baby goat.

    • @BingBongTruth
      @BingBongTruth 8 месяцев назад +1

      ​@gizzy9312 both are incredible
      Allen has outplayed him few times, regular and post season

    • @brandonsilver6759
      @brandonsilver6759 22 дня назад

      @@gizzy9312 stop the cap and allow both to be hyped the way they should. as a Bills fan, this documentary was incredible and a rollercoaster to re live. the ending was incredible. I hope Josh can one day make it to the promised land and hoist that trophy, just once and there is a part 2 to this documentary. well done you earned a new sub in me :)

  • @JBFoster66
    @JBFoster66 Год назад +19

    Honestly this whole video really sums up being a Bills fan. Great work. No matter what I’m thankful for 17 and wouldn’t want another QB. He has Buffalo written all over him

  • @fishels3895
    @fishels3895 Год назад +10

    This documentary was so good I had to remind myself at the end that I wasn’t a sad Bills fan, but a Chiefs one. Hope Josh gets his sincerely

  • @CHIIIEEEEEEEEFFFFSSS
    @CHIIIEEEEEEEEFFFFSSS Год назад +11

    Something about this video reminds me of a Jon Bois production and that's about the highest compliment I can pay to a sports youtube creator.
    Respect to Josh and the Bills fans.

  • @ldselby21
    @ldselby21 Год назад +105

    Even as a Dolphins fan, I’ve always been a huge Josh Allen fan. If Miami can’t win the division, I just want Josh Allen to win it. I haven’t seen a QB love to play the game so much 😭

    • @Noob_Guy2k
      @Noob_Guy2k Год назад +6

      I hope u know only reason us bills fans toxic is because u dolphins fans r sometimes but ur rare one W

    • @mlong9071
      @mlong9071 Год назад +5

      I am a huge bills fan. My house is ten minutes from the stadium and my business is walking distance from the stadium...even though your what I consider the enemy as a dolphins fan.....anyhow i just want to say thank you for saying that. Respect

    • @ClintByrne
      @ClintByrne Год назад

      I actually am a bills fan and when you guys almost won the division I was rooting for you all too.
      After us of course.
      Next year AFC east wins the Superbowl

    • @teaandtrumpets5664
      @teaandtrumpets5664 Год назад

      Even with Brady gone, it’s still rest of the AFC EAST vs the Patriots until the Bills, Dolphins and Jets win 6 superbowls

    • @aryan-io6sf
      @aryan-io6sf Год назад +3

      Fuck the bills

  • @heysav
    @heysav Год назад +33

    Josh Allen is such an epic QB. Amazing content!!

    • @jamesrussell2051
      @jamesrussell2051 Год назад +2

      He's a great talent but not a champion. He's saddled with a wimpy and old team.

    • @goodsbys0120
      @goodsbys0120 11 месяцев назад

      He is playing in the Era of Mahomes. He's a tough kid though. He needs to slow down on the hero ball a bit too.

  • @debbarnes7953
    @debbarnes7953 Год назад +6

    So well done. Great storytelling. As a Chiefs fan I have empathy for Bills fans. If it wasn't to be us I hoped it would be Bills. I truly think Bills could have taken the Ravens this year. Respect for Josh.

  • @kcwizard72
    @kcwizard72 Год назад +12

    EXCELLENT JOB!! KC CHIEFS FAN HERE! I have the utmost respect for Josh...he always scares me when we go against him.

  • @Troythesandman
    @Troythesandman Год назад +10

    Legit the best RUclips football documentary I've ever seen. The storytelling, even when knowing every moment is still chilling and intense and puts a truly tragic look on Josh Allen's career. Although that is to be said, at least so far. He's still got a lot of football left in him and hey, you never know. Even second best gets his glory

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      We appreciate it! Maybe in a few years we’ll be able to tell a brighter end that shows him holding the Lombardi

  • @dfp_01
    @dfp_01 10 месяцев назад +2

    Josh Allen's stats in the playoffs against the Chiefs:
    3 GP, 81/129 (62.8 comp%), 802 yards, 7 TDs, 1 INT, 95.2 passer rating, 6 sacks, 69 yards, 6.13 ANY/A, 30 rush attempts, 228 yards (7.6 yards/att), 2 TDs, 0 fumbles lost, *_0-3 record_*
    Or, to put it another way: in three games, Allen has either dropped back or run 165 times, and those 165 plays have resulted in a net 961 yards, 9 touchdowns, and only 1 turnover, and yet the Bills have lost all three games.

  • @Dollabill3611
    @Dollabill3611 Год назад +13

    From a diehard chiefs fan, this docu is really well done and I enjoyed watching it.

  • @ajbubbasw
    @ajbubbasw Год назад +23

    One thing to note in the better than perfect section is that Allen suffered a partial tear of his UCL in the Jets game and his performance went down from there.

  • @we3retro956
    @we3retro956 Год назад +21

    the mandalorian and divisional rounds part was sick, nice job

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      Helps when it’s the greatest playoff game of all time!

  • @DynastyRehab
    @DynastyRehab Год назад +18

    The quality of this video is top notch. 30 for 30 should be taking notes. Great job! 🔥🔥🔥

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      We worked on it! Glad you liked it!

  • @jimmyzeiger3811
    @jimmyzeiger3811 Год назад +17

    Man it doesn’t hurt any less with each passing year. Great job on the documentary. One day…

  • @angrydrunkengerman2819
    @angrydrunkengerman2819 Год назад +26

    I had no desire to watch this because A) I'm a Chiefs fan and know this type of suffering all too well and B) I'm in the middle of watching my team's first dynasty and year 2 of the first 3 peat. There is no room in my mind for thoughts of failure right now.
    But I did. And this was very well done, very well narrated, and perfect 80's/90's sounding music choices to accompany it. Well done sir. I'm glad I watched. I remember that type of pain and it makes my limitless joy even more uncanny in the moment...

    • @AshS85
      @AshS85 Год назад +12

      lol don't try to compare yourself to bills fans bro, imagine mahomes going to 4 SBs in a row and losing all 4. No one except maybe the Vikings fans have suffered like the Bills have.

    • @gufaaahhh
      @gufaaahhh Год назад +8

      with all due respect, you don't know anything about the suffering of Bills fans

    • @angrydrunkengerman2819
      @angrydrunkengerman2819 Год назад +5

      @@gufaaahhh You went to four super bowls before choking them all away and losing any sympathy from other NFL fans. KC went 40+ years with one playoff win. If any fan shows Bills fans an ounce of graciousness it's out of habbit through gritted teeth.

    • @acatwithwiskers9273
      @acatwithwiskers9273 Год назад

      ​​@@angrydrunkengerman2819? I am not a bills fan yet I feel for them the most, I never had any sympathy for the chiefs because they have won a Superbowl before Mahomes already.

    • @gufaaahhh
      @gufaaahhh Год назад +5

      @@angrydrunkengerman2819 that's more like it

  • @Marsie1001
    @Marsie1001 Год назад +10

    I can’t say I’ve ever been into football much but the format and pure storytelling is so compelling I’m intrigued! 🍿🍿

  • @hunchowiget5670
    @hunchowiget5670 Год назад +299

    This is the best sports documentary I have seen in my whole life and boy, have I seen a lot of em’! Keep these coming man, the narrative of the white whale surrounding Allen and Mahomes is something I’ve never realised before and the fact the Bills traded with the Chiefs giving them their biggest enemy in franchise history is just CRAZY. This was great, I can’t wait to see what documentaries you guys give us in the future!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +20

      We appreciate it! Looking forward to creating more documentaries for you. Glad you liked it!

    • @TheBrokenRPG
      @TheBrokenRPG Год назад +5

      2nd this! I’ll still be here for the 100k subscriber special lol

    • @zachf5019
      @zachf5019 Год назад +3

      I literally came down to the comments to see if anyone shared my opinion and I think the exact same thing

    • @shxfty_c0nt3st3d5
      @shxfty_c0nt3st3d5 Год назад +3

      I’m a Chiefs fan myself and honestly Joe Burrow and the Bengals stress me out hasn’t as much

    • @Galford8322
      @Galford8322 Год назад +4

      Calling Allen the 2nd coming of Jim Kelly on draft day was a curse, because he was.

  • @10thletter40
    @10thletter40 Год назад +4

    When Tony Romo said, "Talk about a win." I was yelling at my TV that it wasnt over.
    I didnt know 13 seconds really were enough.

  • @dudestew7902
    @dudestew7902 Год назад +5

    I clicked and watched this whole thing without even noticing your sub count. I am speechless. Amazing work!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      Thank you so much! Glad you liked it

  • @Jesse-Jackson
    @Jesse-Jackson Год назад +6

    Bravo. If you couldn't tell by my profile pic Chiefs fan here ;) As other have noted it's been the greatest Quarterback rivalry of the Mahomes era (we can call it that now right being to 4 Super Bowls now winning multiple) and having watched these Mahomes-Allen games at Buffalo bars here down south it's always a great reminder how passionate and heated the Bills Mafia get at Chiefs fans and the legend only grows with these two going at it. Love playing Buffalo and Allen I do think both are really cut from the same cloth--just happens that Patrick has his number in the post season like Brady did for many back in the day. Looking forward to more classics from these two!

    • @polishutube
      @polishutube Год назад +1

      Mahomes doesn’t have shit… acting like it’s a 1 v 1… there’s 20 other guys on the field as well as the coach. Y’all have one of the greatest offensive minded coaches in history, and mahomes got to sit behind Alex smith. And came into having tyreek and kelce. It’s not the same.

    • @Jesse-Jackson
      @Jesse-Jackson Год назад

      @polishutube lol okay. Still a 3x Super Bowl champion in 6 years and Burrow has...checks notes...Jamaar Chase Tee Higgins best WR duo in the league...and ZERO rings along with Allen. Move on keep sipping the Haterade love it.

    • @Im1ofTh3m
      @Im1ofTh3m 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@polishutube haters gonna hate. It's fans like you that bring a bad taste to the community. Just accept a damn compliment. Jesus

  • @MikeMcBride
    @MikeMcBride 6 месяцев назад +1

    As a long time Bills fan I can’t recommend this enough. One of the best RUclips videos ever.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  5 месяцев назад

      We’re glad you enjoyed it!

  • @whiskeysourfilm
    @whiskeysourfilm Год назад +11

    Very well done documentary film. Incredible story and really unique insights.

  • @dwselby
    @dwselby Год назад +29

    This. Is. Epic. The people at 4th And Troll have a gift for storytelling and the sports knowledge to do it right. And they’re just getting started! Keep your eye on this outfit.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +2

      We'd love to continue to make more docs!

    • @dimesinger
      @dimesinger Год назад

      let's go @@4thandtroll

  • @herbjones122578
    @herbjones122578 7 месяцев назад +1

    First off, very well done documentary. Second, watching highlights of Allen and mahomes is just so insane to watch that I almost don’t care who wins . Ultimately it’s why the phrase was coined…”any given Sunday” keep up the great work.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  11 дней назад

      We appreciate it! After yet another nail biter, Allen v Mahomes continues to be an enjoyable watch. Maybe someday Allen will leave a postseason matchup vs Mahomes victorious

  • @mateojohns05
    @mateojohns05 Год назад +5

    400 subs ????? this is legitimately such high quality work, deserves way more credit

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      This film has brought us up to that number! Glad you liked it

  • @taylorschneidermusic9357
    @taylorschneidermusic9357 Год назад +1

    This is really incredible. One small nitpick is the music being a tad loud at times so it drowns out the narration. That’s just me being a post audio nerd though. You guys hit a home run with the story, and that’s the most important part. Can’t wait for the next one!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      We appreciate the feedback! Glad you enjoy it

  • @danseeloff867
    @danseeloff867 Год назад +15

    I just want one super bowl trophy, im so tired of everyone talking shit about us year after year. We had to deal with the Patriots for 20 years & now the Chiefs! I've been a fan since the '90s & don't know how much more i can take. Either i stop watching or i just take myself out. I don't think i can hande the Chiefs winning every SB for the next 10 years

    • @hinata365247
      @hinata365247 Год назад +3

      I'm a chiefs fan too! But I want to get the most SBs especially with mahomes playing. We might not have another qb or coach like this again.

    • @10thletter40
      @10thletter40 Год назад +4

      The thing is, you aren't the Cowboys. We can tell you aren't frauds, you play well and play hard.
      They need a defense, to avoid injuries, and maybe, just maybe, you can pull it off.

    • @zachfrey8541
      @zachfrey8541 7 месяцев назад

      An now the bengals

  • @xgoroth
    @xgoroth Год назад +2

    Wow. What an amazingly done documentary. Brought tears to my eyes a couple times, especially the Hamlin moments. Outstanding job, please do more.

  • @sabulk
    @sabulk Год назад +5

    Wow this is so good. The only reason I almost didnt watch is because it had such a small amount of views. Hopefully this blows up and there will be more of this top notch storytelling in the future

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +2

      Thank you for giving us a shot! We look forward to making more in the future

  • @njongomato
    @njongomato Год назад +3

    This is such an incredible video man - the editing, narration, MUSIC! Gave me chills. You've earned my sub and please keeping making these. Much love from South Africa!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      We appreciate that very much! Glad to reach your RUclips all the way around the world!

  • @santanarodriguez9307
    @santanarodriguez9307 11 дней назад +4

    4th time, after a certain point it becomes too mental to overcome.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  11 дней назад

      Josh Allen’s early fumbles, which Buffalo managed to recover, likely confirmed this

  • @rudymathews7643
    @rudymathews7643 11 месяцев назад +2

    Amazing documentary. As a chiefs fan I loved every second of it but as a football fan it makes me feel for Josh Allen more

  • @braydenkelley7923
    @braydenkelley7923 Год назад +3

    What a great documentary, I loved your commentary and the clips you pulled out. I’m hoping to see more from you. For someone with under 500 subs, the quality is excellent!!!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      Thank you! We’re excited to make more

  • @JefferyT1991
    @JefferyT1991 Год назад +2

    Football will bring you happiness but even more heartbreak. It makes the good times extra special when they come along

  • @santwashere
    @santwashere Год назад +6

    Josh Allen will be this generation's Brett Farve, I see him being statistically great.. an MVP or two.. along with 1 Super Bowl but always losing in the playoffs to more put together teams

  • @keeplookingup8055
    @keeplookingup8055 Год назад +2

    I really enjoyed this documentary. Chiefs fan here with mad respect for Josh Allen.

  • @Pokuz
    @Pokuz Год назад +6

    Man, you got a bright future with this! Keep up the documentaries, I’ll subscribe.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      Thank you! We look forward to making more in the future

  • @josharnold9991
    @josharnold9991 Год назад +1

    By far the best Buffalo Bills documentary I have ever seen! Well done sir, well done!

  • @mepp7573
    @mepp7573 Год назад +4

    Very good video. You did a great job adding this much footage in under an hour.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      Lots of hard work! Glad you liked it

  • @basheercross7076
    @basheercross7076 11 месяцев назад +1

    this may be the best sports documentary I’ve seen.. very perceptive and thorough. As a lifelong Bills fan who’s consumed a TON of (Josh Allen) content, this has to be the best by far 💯

  • @Jayhawker2000
    @Jayhawker2000 Год назад +4

    Great work man. Keep making content on this level, and this channel is gonna blow up.

  • @miftarfejzaj1294
    @miftarfejzaj1294 8 месяцев назад +1

    Awesome work guys. Great storytelling!

  • @cmselby72
    @cmselby72 Год назад +6

    Wow. I only knew about half of this and I'd never made these connections. Great stuff!

  • @jld593
    @jld593 Год назад +2

    Awesome doc. Editing, music choices, and minimal but excellent narration were all top notch. Super impressed. Subscribed!

  • @frequentfrenzied
    @frequentfrenzied Год назад +3

    Well done. This deserves more views and you deserve more subscribers.

  • @brendonhabel5953
    @brendonhabel5953 Год назад +1

    Extremely high quality film, I hope this keeps on blowing up!

  • @caseyhonigbaum
    @caseyhonigbaum Год назад +4

    Chills. What an incredible piece of content. Like, seriously, inspirational work. If this is what you guys do I'm sure I speak for many when I say I want to be a part of it!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +2

      We’re so glad you like it! In addition to our fantasy football show, we will have more documentaries in the future

  • @Jxck716
    @Jxck716 Месяц назад +1

    the way this guy makes connections to outside information is isane, i love it

  • @mamtasomani
    @mamtasomani Год назад +3

    Can you make one on the chiefs and mahomes? I love the video its well commented, and the placement of the clips are prefect.

  • @NatCon501st
    @NatCon501st Год назад +2

    Looking at your channel I gotta say I'm amazed at the quality of this documentary. As a Chiefs fan this is a heartbreaking look at what my teams dominance is doing to other franchises just looking to make it over the hump.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      Thanks for checking us out! Your Chiefs are defining a generation for sure

  • @tyrussleightholme7261
    @tyrussleightholme7261 Год назад +4

    The Damar Hamlin segment actually made me cry. Unbelievable job this. Incredible documentary

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      His story is emotional. Thank you so much! Glad you liked it

    • @TaniasUncle
      @TaniasUncle 10 месяцев назад

      Lmao

  • @dorothyhunter4656
    @dorothyhunter4656 Год назад +2

    love this. i do think the bills will be superbowl champions soon. I recently discovered Josh Allen and cant take my eyes off him. Also I believe Josh and Stephon complete each other . the only way to win is to have them at the center of this

  • @theofficialgreenkane
    @theofficialgreenkane Год назад +22

    As a Buffalonian, I watch Allen make magical plays so often, when I watch MNF or any other team play, it seems so boring. I assume KC feels the same way with Mahomes. We’re both spoiled. I just wish Josh’s teammates would step up & help the kid out more. Go Bills. 🎉

    • @danpan6249
      @danpan6249 Год назад

      trash allen

    • @__Ryan_
      @__Ryan_ Год назад +3

      @@danpan6249your mom likes him

    • @BingBongTruth
      @BingBongTruth 8 месяцев назад

      facts, Allen has multiple highlights every game, so does Mahomes
      We got a few more wars coming

  • @chancepowers7625
    @chancepowers7625 Год назад +2

    We need so much more like this!! Absolute masterpiece

  • @brucespidle8711
    @brucespidle8711 Год назад +2

    Obviously, a lot easier to watch this as a Chiefs fan, cause we love the outcome to date, but I know how the Bills fans feel. The Yankees beat the Royals in three straight AL Championship series back in the 70’s. It was just crushing.

  • @AshleyAguas
    @AshleyAguas Год назад +2

    Perfect timing for this perfect docu!

  • @WhiskeyBravo85
    @WhiskeyBravo85 Год назад +2

    As a Chiefs fan, I love the competition between KC/Mahomes and BUF/Allen. Im sure BUF/Allen will get that elusive SB. BillsMafia dondeserve it.
    Best part of this, is acknowledging credit to all sides. BUF/Allen is great and we can all look forward to great rivalry type games.

  • @raybord1
    @raybord1 Год назад +10

    Life long Chiefs fan. Gotta love Kelly, Allen and the Bills Mafia. Great recap. Im sure Buffalo appreciated the last few seconds. lol

    • @akbarshabazz-jenkins7847
      @akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 Год назад +1

      Yeah, as a Packers fan and huge Aaron Rodgers supporter, I don't feel bad for Josh Allen at all. Rodgers has already won a Super Bowl and has been denied getting back to another one year after year for over a decade, but always gets labeled a "choker" even when his defenses and special teams wet the bed. Josh Allen has had FAR better teams and defenses than Rodgers has had and yet he still hasn't even sniffed a Super Bowl appearance, let alone a Lombardi trophy. The only pass I'll give Allen is the 2021-22 Divisional at Kansas City. The Bills definitely should've won that game and the only blame you can give to Allen was leaving too much time on the clock for Mahomes...that loss, though, was NOT on Allen.
      Long story short, Rodgers had to play in an era with about 5 or 6 of the greatest QBs of all-time...Allen? Not so much. Yes, Patrick Mahomes is great and may go down eventually as the greatest ever, but Allen has also been denied by Burrow and the Bengals AT HOME. Didn't really matter, though, did it? We all know what would've happened the very next week anyways had he gotten the chance to go back to Arrowhead for the AFCCG... it's the same reality for us Cheeseheads whenever Rodgers wins a playoff game or two only to run into the 49ers or a team with a top 5 defense like the Buccs in 2020 and the Seahawks in 2014, and the narrative has stayed the same even with Love now at the helm.
      Some things just aren't meant to be, and as long as Mahomes is in the AFC and stays healthy, Josh Allen will NEVER reach the Super Bowl. Truth hurts.

    • @ATR_cardsandbreaks
      @ATR_cardsandbreaks 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847you just sound like a bitter packers fan and it’s not a good look.

    • @akbarshabazz-jenkins7847
      @akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ATR_cardsandbreaks On the contrary, I'm not bitter at all. My team and quarterback made it just as far this year as the Bills and overrated Josh Allen. We weren't even supposed to make the playoffs and Love was a bust...that was the narrative surrounding my team. The Bills, on the other hand, were FINALLY gonna win the Super Bowl this year, and Josh Allen and all his passing and rushing tds would land him an MVP for both the regular season AND Super Bowl...that was the narrative surrounding them (according to the "experts" and biased fans).
      You wanna see bitter? Go look at a few Josh Allen interviews after he lost at home in the playoffs yet again 😬

    • @ATR_cardsandbreaks
      @ATR_cardsandbreaks 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 you are bitter bro, idc how you try to spin it. Bitter just like Karen Rodgers lol

    • @akbarshabazz-jenkins7847
      @akbarshabazz-jenkins7847 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ATR_cardsandbreaks Nah, you're just mad because the Bills lost 4 Super Bowls in a row and will never be back to another one with Josh Allen lol and now Rodgers is somehow bitter? I don't care how you try to spin it either. You are doing a weak job trying to troll all in an effort to make you feel better about your own team's shortcomings and failures. Now, go ahead and proceed to tell me you're not even a Bills fan 🙄

  • @NoahN-e3l
    @NoahN-e3l 11 месяцев назад +1

    Man, you are an artist. And talk about doing your homework. This documentary was incredible. Thank you.

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  11 месяцев назад

      We greatly appreciate that! Thank you!

  • @marke.8506
    @marke.8506 Год назад +3

    Love the synthwave vibe ❤ Good job mister!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      All synthwave music by White Bat Audio!

  • @Areyoueffinkiddingme
    @Areyoueffinkiddingme Год назад +2

    Great Job, loved the documentary. Chiefs fan since 69. Also a fan of Josh. Great job.

  • @Jayhawker2000
    @Jayhawker2000 Год назад +2

    45:37 This is the first time I noticed this, but the Bills player across from Toney is also lined up in the neutral zone (his helmet).

    • @10thletter40
      @10thletter40 Год назад

      Nah, the football is a little behind. The blue line isn't directly with it.

  • @right_Chris
    @right_Chris 10 месяцев назад +1

    Well done. That’s an understatement. This is top level. Great work..

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you! Glad you liked it

  • @zionnewkirk4838
    @zionnewkirk4838 Год назад +4

    Okay, the editing for the 1st divisional round game went crazy!🔥🔥

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      Helps when it’s one of the best games ever!

  • @Andrew-mt4rb
    @Andrew-mt4rb Месяц назад +2

    Amazing video two great QBs still going!!!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Месяц назад +1

      They have so many years left! 🏈

  • @FoxyRampageRoxy
    @FoxyRampageRoxy Год назад +7

    I’m a Bills fan and my heart always breaks for Allen. He truly puts on the cape and becomes Superman doing everything but play defense. I would love to see the Bills go against the Chiefs in the post season with a healthy defense. Buffalo Bills win regular season games vs the Chiefs with a healthy defense 🤷🏻‍♀️ just never stay healthy down the stretch.

  • @mercedesjones4029
    @mercedesjones4029 11 месяцев назад +2

    This was both an extremely well done and absolutely devastating documentary and I’m not even a Bills fan 😭

  • @Noob_Guy2k
    @Noob_Guy2k Год назад +4

    Video gave me goosebumps this was amazing

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      Glad you liked it! We’ll be making more in the future!

  • @EMcG-t3r
    @EMcG-t3r Год назад

    2021....I was born in Buffalo, and spent most of life in Tampa. This was the year my lifelong fav team the Bills came to Tampa to play my 2nd fav team. 13 damn seconds.......changed everything.

  • @bajaboyz8210
    @bajaboyz8210 Год назад +12

    What a crushing blow at the end with the draft trade - I don’t think I knew that. This is really great. Allen is elite but is sucks that he probably won’t get a ring

    • @Touchdownselby
      @Touchdownselby Год назад +1

      Lol they could’ve been set if they drafted Mahomes

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад

      KC knew what they saw in Mahomes. That’s not to say BUF isn’t glad to have Allen… BUT… 👀

    • @JackRice007
      @JackRice007 Год назад +12

      There’s no other QB that I’d rather have. Mahomes may have more rings but I think Josh plays with more heart, and is certainly more fun to watch. Great guy, awesome QB.

    • @wesselby5585
      @wesselby5585 Год назад +1

      @@JackRice007it’s a shame that some of the greats will get lost in history simply because they didn’t win a SB or even go. Hopefully you guys get at least a shot, but there’s hardly any player in the league that’s more fun to watch than Allen

    • @JackRice007
      @JackRice007 Год назад +4

      @@wesselby5585 Marino, Kelly, and Fouts are still remembered. Hopefully Josh will break through for us though. All we need is one.

  • @IRADyson
    @IRADyson 4 месяца назад +1

    That is an awesome documentary my friend. Things are looking promising this year again

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  4 месяца назад +1

      Thank you! They’re off to a good start… again…

    • @IRADyson
      @IRADyson 4 месяца назад

      @@4thandtroll yes they are loving the new defensive coordinator they didn't even need Josh Allen against the dolphins and I like the fact that they're turning him loose

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  4 месяца назад

      @IRADyson Allen has always played hero ball and led the league in turnovers so maybe without Diggs their conservativeness will bode well for them!

  • @Lunasearthsong
    @Lunasearthsong Год назад +7

    Go Bills♥️💙

  • @Darkhorses1976
    @Darkhorses1976 Год назад +1

    Great documentary! Chiefs fan since the ‘80’s and Jim Kelly and Josh Allen have been great competitors against the team I’ve followed throughout the decades… cool film bro 👍🏼

  • @noahselby5032
    @noahselby5032 Год назад +8

    🔥 very well done

  • @woozyguy9
    @woozyguy9 Год назад +1

    Nice work, you have a real talent, the 24 hour news cycle of modern media makes me sad that they can't capture even just a glimmer of the real stories behind every team in football. There are a ton of stories like this that belong to not just the champions of each year, but the ones that come up just short.

  • @BingBongTruth
    @BingBongTruth 8 месяцев назад +4

    man that 13 seconds will always haunt me

    • @bellarose6218
      @bellarose6218 6 месяцев назад +3

      You, and the whole city of Buffalo 😢

  • @pacobreh
    @pacobreh Год назад +1

    Incredible work, riveting from start to finish

  • @renataselby
    @renataselby Год назад +6

    WATCH THIS SPACE 👏🏼👏🏼🏈

  • @jcsullivan-jf1wu
    @jcsullivan-jf1wu Год назад

    Smiles, chills, and tears. Best sports documentary I’ve ever watched. The things I would do to see Josh win a Super Bowl in Buffalo 😔

  • @TheJaker5
    @TheJaker5 8 месяцев назад +4

    40 year old Buffalonian boy here. I’m here to say that there is no team destined to win a Lombardi trophy for ANY reason! There’s nothing divine about it. You either nut up and take it or you’re going home empty handed. I’ll back my team till the day I die. But there’s little to gain from believing in destiny brought on by circumstances, tragic or otherwise as if it’s plot armor. I don’t need some fairy tale ending built around sentiment to a tumultuous season. Cincinnati clearly gave no 💩 about that! I just want ONE Super Bowl win. So FOR FUX SAKE JUST GO OUT THERE AND DO IT!

  • @alexr3251
    @alexr3251 11 месяцев назад

    Chiefs fan here, excellent documentary! Nothing but respect for the Bills and their fans!

  • @Sparky6115
    @Sparky6115 Год назад +10

    I'm not a very superstitious person, but the Bills are a team of destiny. Unfortunately, that destiny is never winning a Super Bowl. Looking back, the way they lose games and have their seasons ended just seems like fate. Would love to see that franchise win one someday, won't hold my breath though.

    • @jamesrussell2051
      @jamesrussell2051 Год назад

      The Bills aren't a team of anything. They are good, that's it. They have no commitment to truly evolving the team into the next level.

    • @polishutube
      @polishutube Год назад

      @@jamesrussell2051you have to be a special kind of stupid to think getting to 4 SB’s in a row means you’re not good. You have to be good enough to make it and unlucky enough lose all 4

  • @rodrigogois
    @rodrigogois Год назад +2

    Wow!! What. A. Documentary. Really well put, well explained, facts by facts.... And also, I'd like to highlight the background soundtracks used on the past events and games, giving a dramatic and also a very nostalgic feel to them... Really well thought and produced.
    AMAZING! Curious to see what directions you guys are going to take, if y'all are in it for the long run with this specific type of content... Others sports, other athletes of other countries, or still football based. The quality is there, for sure. Anyway, another subscriber. Congrats, guys!

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  Год назад +1

      We appreciate it! We have a passion for storytelling and filmmaking so in addition to our regular fantasy football show, we’ll be making more documentaries in the future.

    • @rodrigogois
      @rodrigogois Год назад

      @@4thandtroll Really nice. Glad to know that future ones may come. You guys rocked with this one 👏🏼👏🏼

  • @Ericsportstechpro
    @Ericsportstechpro Год назад +2

    As a Broncos fan, I don’t expect us to get more than 6 wins for a long time so I’m just hoping the Bills can finally get to a super bowl and maybe Dallas makes it and buffalo finally gets revenge

  • @kycoo2921
    @kycoo2921 Год назад +1

    It should be illegal for a product this good to be free, well done! Allen is so special, I pray he gets his ring even if it’s not with my Bills. He deserves it.

  • @onyxdemonic2566
    @onyxdemonic2566 8 месяцев назад +3

    Great documentary. However, I will add...his story is clearly not over yet...

    • @4thandtroll
      @4thandtroll  11 дней назад

      Time will tell if he will get a shot without Mahomes in the way