I’d like to see the “PRO” version to make a judgment of if this has a place in my workflow. But always happy to see new stuff from Roland, even if it is more emulations of their old products.
I bought this and barely used it, not that I disliked it, I just wanted to use more of the stock synths that digital audio work stations come with. I had a phase where I just bought plugins just to buy plugins. I actually bought this when I bought my Juno DS
This would be a great VST Rompler if it wasn’t so CPU heavy. Most people who use it will agree that you’ll find yourself having to covert all your tracks using Zenology in a composition to audio tracks after recording them.
Please can you clarify. If I purchase a lifetime key, for say the Jupiter 8 Virtual instrument , do i then need to pay monthly or annually for a Zenology subscription. I understand the Zen Lite is free but then what functionality would I be losing?
I try to subscribe Roland Cloud, but I cannot recieve the comfirmation link (even I press resend several times), however, I can find no way to seek help!
I have no idea how to get to the interface. I've made an account and installed Zenology Lite to see if it something I can use with my setup, but...now what? Where's the interface? In the download manager, there's no way to launch it. Searching for Zenology in my PC only brings up the download manager.
Woaw sounds like a sound canvas sc55 module I had back in the 80s ! Hey have you heard of Diva, serum and so on ? Also, I'm keeping my beloved mks80 and jv880 !!!
How can I OPEN the soft? I have installed zenology lite from roland cloud, I can see it installed in the "library", but WHERE CAN I OPEN IT? Nor can I find "zenology" by searching in C
Just been playing around with it and it sounds awesome!... Nice one Roland! Would love to see multi outs and pitch options for the drums later as well. ;-)
Hey Brett . Nice to hear mate . Do you know with this zenology if you can send a supernatural sound from it to their zen core hardware instruments like the rd-88? Say I have Supernatural Trumpet in zenology ... can that tone be sent to their hardware keyboard RD-88?
A bit of general feedback regarding Zenology and Roland Cloud. I have subscribed to the Core version after having the free trial. The sounds are decent and I feel Roland are heading in the right direction. What would really help Zenology is a full effects chain. Currently, you can insert one effect block (granted some are combine effects in one) and that's it, which in all honesty is not enough for a modern synth/rompler. Give us effects blocks that we can chain and change the order of the effects. Synthmaster One and Synthmaster manage this really well. Also, where is a basic reverb? Just port this from the System 8, Jup or Juno. Also the current expansions available with Pro like the SH 101 and JX 3P are cool but it's sometimes not clear what certain parts of the ui interface do sonically with no hover over or manual. For example what is the specific difference between HPF 0, 1, 2 & 3 beyond what my ears tell me. Having pretty gone through every patch as I said they are decent but some patches don't quite feel there maybe lacking a bit of punch or vibe. I usually end up putting something before and after vst wise to give it a more natural organic feel. I'm guessing you pulled them from your supernatural engine or something or something a bit older rather than writing them from the ground up. Also, only making the Jup 8, Juno 106, System 8 only available in Ultimate made me sad. Not everyone can pony up $20 a month. A lot of the other stuff I would just never use eg concerto and the legendary stuff, so £20 is steep for me with limited usage. Your System 8 vst sounds truly wonderful as do the Juno and Jupiter. Truly organic and alive. For some reason Zenology feels 75% there with the Juno and Jupiter presets. I instantly connected with the System vst 8 but can't afford $149. I cannot justify $240 across a year (I can't pay $200 up front) for just Zenology, the Juno, Jupiter and the System-8. Maybe you could keep your main three tier system but take an extra dollar or so per synth as an add on. Or dare I say a flat rate of $10 like Slate do for everything!! People would totally jump at this and your subscriber base and sales would jump massively. For me at the moment $2.99 for a compendium that sounds good and varied is good value. But it's not on a par sonically with the likes of Synthmaster, Arturia Pigments, Ana 2, Uhe etc when it comes to organic synth sounds. Maybe the update this fall will give us this. Some of the string stuff eg violin, cello etc sounds decent. The piano's are a bit lacking, I'm not sure where you pulled these from. I'll keep an eye on development and see what's what. Cheers Jay
Just installed LITE version from roland cloud. I have also downloaded a library (unlocked) via Roland Cloud software too... but how can i load it into Zenology VST?
Hey you have to find where it saved your roland vsts. A good way to find out is open Roland Cloud Manager, bottom left click account, click preferences, and you will see custom install location, the vst3 folder should be there and inside is the roland zenology. You can copy that to your main plugins folder or use that one. Hope this helps
Any plans in the future of just making one master SRX VST? I'd like to be able to stack certain sounds from certain SRX expansions with factory included expansions in JV1080/XV5080, but cannot--the only real weak link of those.
Judging by this video at 5:45 (look at the mixer meters or at the interface menus while the cursor goes through the different effects), I can only assume that the CPU usage is the same as the previous plugins, and thus very intensive due to bad optimization imho. Let's hope for future versions.
ZENOLOGY's CPU usage should not interrupt your workflow. For more information on ZENOLOGY please consult this link: www.roland.com/us/products/rc_zenology/.
Can anybody tell me what DAW we are seeing in this video? I run Zenology on ProTools and it seems a bit processor-heavy. I think it is lighter in Reaper. Whatever this person is using the computer is handling quite a bit of processing all at once. Maybe PT is too heavy?
I have been a user of Roland products for over thirty years. I currently own a Roland V-Synth XT and a Roland Integra-7. I downloaded and installed the Roland Cloud and subsequently the free version of Zenology and multiple libraries. Roland insists that Zenlolgy, which is a VST3, must be installed in the (Windows) C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 directory. I moved it to a folder on my D:\ drive and it worked just fine. However, although multiple Factory Preset Banks install with Zenology the patch browser only recoginzed Bank A, even it the plugin was left in the VST3 folder on the C:\ drive. It didn't recognize any of the additional downloaded libraries at all and there is no utility to point the browser to the install location. The install location is requested by the installer, implying users choice. After contacting Roland support (which was reasonably prompt) I found out that, no, the libraries must be located in a specified folder on the C:\ drive only. To add insult to injury I also found out from Roland support that Zenlolgy does not support MIDI patch change protocols. You can use a patch chance message to select any patch with a number between 0-127, but Zenology has patches with numbers higher than 127, thus there is no way to select them, e.g.,, with a patch change message in a DAW. Finally, the Roland Cloud app randomly pops up solicitations for other Roland products on your desktop using the Windows message utilty. I've removed Zenology and Roland Cloud from my PC and won't be using any Roland software products in the forseeable future.
Looks really good! Best of both worlds with subscription & perpetual license options for the other cloud synths. Quick question - is it confirmed that the Zencore Pro will support the MC-101/707? Looks the case but want to be sure before I pull the trigger!
Hi Roland . Congrats on the release! I have a few questions . Do you know with the zenology plugin if you can send a supernatural sound from it to zen core hardware instruments like the rd-88? Say I have Supernatural Trumpet in zenology ... can that tone be sent to the RD-88? Trying to find out more about the RD-88 and how it “manages” its sounds. How much memory does it have etc for additional sounds / expansions . I own the Fantom 8 (which I love). But wondering if all the sounds that are on it (and now supposedly in Zenology) can be moved to the RD-88 . The RD-88 has my interest as it would be an easier / lighter board to gig with . Any help appreciated ! Cheers Steve
We are excited to announce three new membership plans, the option to make one-time purchases with Lifetime Keys plus ZENOLOGY Lite for Roland Accounts. Visit the link in description to find out more.
Okay... think about this objectively... a Jupiter X with zencore is $3,249, a Fantom 6 with zencore is $4,299, but you think getting Zencore for THREE DOLLARS a month is "mad expensive?" Zencore had to be at least 1/2 million $ in development conservatively, and another 1/4 million on this plug and the sound development? No offense, but how much do you think it's worth?
High quality professional synth sounds have never been so affordable or accessible imo, these are some of the best sounds in their flagship synths. It's actually mad inexpensive for what it is.
Saying "It's the same engine that powers our professional hardware instruments like Fantom" seems a bit misleading because the Fantom also has the SuperNatural and the V-Piano engines. There are tons of sounds in the Fantom that are not in this plugin.
just subscribed...but why D-50 emulation sounds so great and 3D better than the hardware (I have had the keyboard version) and Zenology presets lack reverb and thickness? Probably you should simulate the circuits behaviour as you did for the D-50. I have had also the Fantom G6 and the sound was mind blowing. Now I use an Apollo 8, I think it uses good dacs but I haven't the same bright and deep sound from your Zenology XV sounds. Probably old dacs available in the XV or JV hardware generated more harmonics. Please add reverb and DCB.
Please consult our FAQ page for compatibility information. If you need further assistance, click the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the page. rolandcloud.com/support.
Christ I've been searching my PC trying to find the damn thing for over a week! I thought it got installed with RCM, and I was right! Their site is a joke, I couldn't find any info or links on the Zenology Lite software. You're just left going round in circles from one link to another! Not that I can open it as my DAW doesn't load VST3!!! ARGGHH!! Not to mention that the whole deal is confusing as hell! Like which expansions are compatible with what??? Think I'm done with hardware! And things like this just make it sooo NOT worth the hassle!
this shit has me like a kid in a sweet shop. No way could I ever afford all those individual synth keyboards. Ultimate is still kinda expensive monthly but it's a lot cheaper than buying these keyboards outright.
@@1brazyy only the fantom zen core part.fantom has the vpiano part and the sampler part which are not included in the zenology .zenology only has the zencore and pcm srx part as far as I know
Chaz, please consult our FAQ page for compatibility information. If you need further assistance, click the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the page. rolandcloud.com/support
Have Roland run out of electronic components & ideas? How about releasing super beefed up versions of all classic analogue synths such as Juno 106, Jupiter 8 etc with all new sleek, consistent stylish professional design. The latest, best electrical components, sound engines, effects engines, solid/stiff brushed polished metal buttons, sliders/switches with no wobble or slackness. Super resolution screens with simple UI to essential parameters without much menu diving. Super new versions of actual hardware synths you can touch, own & play with forever.
Looks good but stop re-rinsing the same old same old. Unless they are going to be virtually be 1to1 exact models of the original hardware with all the same inherent features but in software.
I really hate the idea of a subscription service. I would have paid $49 or so for a plugin to give me the ability to edit my zencore patches on my computer. But congrats, anyway.
Roland, hope you read user comments... Please FIX fixed starting phase issue in Zenology Pro with unison on oscillator level. In this state of things this has NO USE at all.... Oscillators have unison feature, but you can't use this normally, what a joke.
Work on your plugins stability before you release more stuff. Can you guys not make your plugins less cpu intensive? I’ve seen other instruments do more with less performance issues. Please address this, I’m definitely interested in the Roland plugins. Just not in their current bloated form.
Really? I've bought my Jupiter Xm, which includes jupiter 8 , juno 106, jx8p, sh 101, wv 5080. Why should I purchase the software version of Sh 101 and pay 149 US dollars for it? It's absurd and also stupid!
Sorry Roland... you are losing a substantial portion of potential customers with this business model. Love your work... but I and many will never jump on the bandwagon. Though in saying that... I do own a Fantom 7. Best synth/workstation with a beautiful keybed. Now that is worth every penny and for years to come. If you ever provide a purchase once, own it forever with options to purchase future soundpacks/addons... I would jump on it. But I won't hold my breath. Thanks for the vid.
@@maccagrabme A serious musician doesn't rent instruments. Suppose the subscription lapses or Roland ditches the Cloud then how do you edit your own productions? Have you ever gone to license pro music software and it says 'Authorize Online' and 'Authorize Offline', do you know why you get those options? A serious music producer doesn't have their production machines connected to the internet, the connection can cause processor spikes which makes the playback glitch out, and then you have virus software issues. You need a constant internet connection to run this, not smart nor professional. Professional musicians and producers don't use a bank of presets that they can't tweak and edit to their hearts content. In the last six months I have spent £2,300 on a computer for music production, £1,200 on upgrades for that computer, £1,700 on controller and audio interface upgrades and around £2,000 on production software - none of which is rented. I've spent another £500 on software since March, to keep me entertained in lockdown, none of that is rented. I also own a Yamaha CS 50 (£2,500) and Roland Integra 7 (£1,500). And I like this product, and if Roland wants to sell me a version that I don't need to rent, don't need an online connection for and can edit deep and create my own sounds then I will consider it. But don't be saying people aren't serious musicians or producer because they won't fork out $360 over a ten year period for an overpriced toy of non-editable presets that they need to be online to use, that is highly unprofessional. This sales model is a joke in the industry. I can forgive Roland for being this silly, they are an old-school hardware company and don't really understand how modern computer based music production works, they don't even sell a grid based music controller, the Novation LaunchPad is 11 years old. They even sell a virtual instrument TB 303 for the same money Behringer currently sells a hardware 303, Behringer makes low cost analog synths because they listen to what people want, Roland doesn't. And these aren't even Roland's presets to sell. Look at the TB 303, Roland tried to sell that as a bass instrument companion for musicians to jam along to, then Dance/Acid music producers took that instrument and used it out of purpose and made a bunch of crazy sounds for it beyond intended purpose - and now Roland is taking the creative work of these people and claiming it as their own work to sell. That isn't right is it? I'll take Zenology serious when Roland takes themselves serious.
I like the UI, it's simple, it looks good and it's not too busy.
I’d like to see the “PRO” version to make a judgment of if this has a place in my workflow. But always happy to see new stuff from Roland, even if it is more emulations of their old products.
When you want all of your songs to sound like you're inside of Space Mountain at Disney World.
literally one of the most useful tools
The music that starts at 4:59 has like a Street Fighter/King Of Fighters ending type feel to it🔥
Wondering if buying expansions (eg. EXS Studio Sounds) for Zenology is actually the same as buying SRX plugins (eg. SRX Studio)...?
I can't believe I never knew about Roland Cloud. This is what I've wanted forever! Game changer!
I'm surprised of how much it has to offer for just 2.99$ a month. I'm really enjoying the expansions.
oh my. I thought zen cloud was for hardware instruments.. This is crazy! so much stuff!
So how can it be identical to the FANTOM if it has an actual VCF?
Amazing !!!
Thanks for the video...Kudos from Pune City, India
I bought this and barely used it, not that I disliked it, I just wanted to use more of the stock synths that digital audio work stations come with.
I had a phase where I just bought plugins just to buy plugins. I actually bought this when I bought my Juno DS
Sorta confused- is the only way to use this to get the cloud membership?
When are you going to release the V-Synth as an AU VST? One of the best Roland synths ever...
Renato Pernett they need to release the Roland Integra 7 as a VST/AU and stop playing
Renato, thank you for taking the time to provide us with this feedback. Roland Cloud is always evolving, and we appreciate input from our users.
@@RolandCloud Jesus... what a generic robotic response lol
I've got an XT
Which are the zenology banks he used?
This would be a great VST Rompler if it wasn’t so CPU heavy. Most people who use it will agree that you’ll find yourself having to covert all your tracks using Zenology in a composition to audio tracks after recording them.
Does the drumkit editor allow you to add wav files and transfer back to an MC707 or 101?
I want that! I own a Roland W-30 workstation 🎹
Please can you clarify. If I purchase a lifetime key, for say the Jupiter 8 Virtual instrument , do i then need to pay monthly or annually for a Zenology subscription. I understand the Zen Lite is free but then what functionality would I be losing?
I have the same question..
Installed it but no where to find it to use it! Please upload a how to install and access it video. Thanks.
You have to open it in your DAW
Figured it out. It was a bad install. Ot working great, love the sounds. Thanks anyways🍺
Why is there only one pattern of glissando
I try to subscribe Roland Cloud, but I cannot recieve the comfirmation link (even I press resend several times), however, I can find no way to seek help!
Please Roland, just make this as a standalone synthesizer that we can buy out right. I don’t want to rent your cloud every month.
2020 Roland Jupiter-X or the Late 2019 Roland Fantom
MC101 when it comes with the editor should do the job.
You can buy it out now.
@@2ammusik Where is that shown? I just see single instruments as buy outs on the Zenology page.
you can get it for free now in audioz, fuck this greedy devs
I installed it on the cloud manager but its no where to be found in my computer
Marick, we replied to your other comment. If you need assistance, click the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the page. rolandcloud.com/support.
zenologyはデザインを統一しているおかげで、見やすいし、コントロールマップも構築しやすい。かつ歴代シンセの音を完全再現した音源も拡張出来る。音は同じだけど、legenderyシリーズよりも安く買えるからコスパがいい
あとはCPUへの負担が減ってくれたら良いんだけど、まぁそこはあまり気にしない
I have no idea how to get to the interface. I've made an account and installed Zenology Lite to see if it something I can use with my setup, but...now what? Where's the interface? In the download manager, there's no way to launch it. Searching for Zenology in my PC only brings up the download manager.
Woaw sounds like a sound canvas sc55 module I had back in the 80s ! Hey have you heard of Diva, serum and so on ? Also, I'm keeping my beloved mks80 and jv880 !!!
Is this what is installed in the MC 707 and mc 101 series?
How can I start Zenology?
How can I OPEN the soft? I have installed zenology lite from roland cloud, I can see it installed in the "library", but WHERE CAN I OPEN IT? Nor can I find "zenology" by searching in C
I have been trying to figure this out for a week now and I have no idea. Did you ever get it?
@@OBM21 its a vst.use a daw to open it.and the install folder is...I don't know either.I just found it in my studio one
Hooray! Now I can make Muzak!
Just been playing around with it and it sounds awesome!... Nice one Roland!
Would love to see multi outs and pitch options for the drums later as well. ;-)
Hey Brett . Nice to hear mate . Do you know with this zenology if you can send a supernatural sound from it to their zen core hardware instruments like the rd-88? Say I have Supernatural Trumpet in zenology ... can that tone be sent to their hardware keyboard RD-88?
Brett, thank you for taking the time to provide us with this feedback. Roland Cloud is always evolving, and we appreciate input from our users.
no reverb?
Does this make Rolands other softsynths obsolete?
Fantastic! Thank you 👍😎
Hi Roland, how about doing some famous sound tutorials? Ex Warm Pads broken wings Mr Mister . Thanks!
Hey,
do you think not so old roland product would be compatible with Zenology with future update? RD-2000 for example
Im just signing up for pro now. Its gonna be so fun.
A bit of general feedback regarding Zenology and Roland Cloud.
I have subscribed to the Core version after having the free trial. The sounds are decent and I feel Roland are heading in the right direction.
What would really help Zenology is a full effects chain. Currently, you can insert one effect block (granted some are combine effects in one) and that's it, which in all honesty is not enough for a modern synth/rompler. Give us effects blocks that we can chain and change the order of the effects. Synthmaster One and Synthmaster manage this really well. Also, where is a basic reverb? Just port this from the System 8, Jup or Juno.
Also the current expansions available with Pro like the SH 101 and JX 3P are cool but it's sometimes not clear what certain parts of the ui interface do sonically with no hover over or manual. For example what is the specific difference between HPF 0, 1, 2 & 3 beyond what my ears tell me.
Having pretty gone through every patch as I said they are decent but some patches don't quite feel there maybe lacking a bit of punch or vibe. I usually end up putting something before and after vst wise to give it a more natural organic feel. I'm guessing you pulled them from your supernatural engine or something or something a bit older rather than writing them from the ground up.
Also, only making the Jup 8, Juno 106, System 8 only available in Ultimate made me sad. Not everyone can pony up $20 a month. A lot of the other stuff I would just never use eg concerto and the legendary stuff, so £20 is steep for me with limited usage.
Your System 8 vst sounds truly wonderful as do the Juno and Jupiter. Truly organic and alive. For some reason Zenology feels 75% there with the Juno and Jupiter presets. I instantly connected with the System vst 8 but can't afford $149. I cannot justify $240 across a year (I can't pay $200 up front) for just Zenology, the Juno, Jupiter and the System-8.
Maybe you could keep your main three tier system but take an extra dollar or so per synth as an add on. Or dare I say a flat rate of $10 like Slate do for everything!! People would totally jump at this and your subscriber base and sales would jump massively.
For me at the moment $2.99 for a compendium that sounds good and varied is good value. But it's not on a par sonically with the likes of Synthmaster, Arturia Pigments, Ana 2, Uhe etc when it comes to organic synth sounds. Maybe the update this fall will give us this. Some of the string stuff eg violin, cello etc sounds decent. The piano's are a bit lacking, I'm not sure where you pulled these from.
I'll keep an eye on development and see what's what.
Cheers
Jay
Needs an option for layering and stacking sounds
Where can I buy it? Or I should subscribe Roland to get it only?
Just installed LITE version from roland cloud. I have also downloaded a library (unlocked) via Roland Cloud software too... but how can i load it into Zenology VST?
Hey you have to find where it saved your roland vsts. A good way to find out is open Roland Cloud Manager, bottom left click account, click preferences, and you will see custom install location, the vst3 folder should be there and inside is the roland zenology. You can copy that to your main plugins folder or use that one. Hope this helps
Been using the free version to see if I like it and so far it sounds great!
Any plans in the future of just making one master SRX VST? I'd like to be able to stack certain sounds from certain SRX expansions with factory included expansions in JV1080/XV5080, but cannot--the only real weak link of those.
Roland Cloud is always evolving!
Does Zenology allow a lighter CPU usage than the previous legendary instruments?
Judging by this video at 5:45 (look at the mixer meters or at the interface menus while the cursor goes through the different effects), I can only assume that the CPU usage is the same as the previous plugins, and thus very intensive due to bad optimization imho. Let's hope for future versions.
ZENOLOGY's CPU usage should not interrupt your workflow. For more information on ZENOLOGY please consult this link: www.roland.com/us/products/rc_zenology/.
But it has bugs with ableton 11 on m1 pro macbooks. Please make the M1 version.
Can anybody tell me what DAW we are seeing in this video? I run Zenology on ProTools and it seems a bit processor-heavy. I think it is lighter in Reaper. Whatever this person is using the computer is handling quite a bit of processing all at once. Maybe PT is too heavy?
Ableton Live
Just Ableton with a dark theme
Great synth. But I'm not sure why there's no reverb effect. Good anyway
Are there any JD800 sounds in this library? Or in any other Roland Cloud library?
Mike, Roland Cloud is always evolving, and we appreciate input from our users. Stay tuned!
I have been a user of Roland products for over thirty years. I currently own a Roland V-Synth XT and a Roland Integra-7. I downloaded and installed the Roland Cloud and subsequently the free version of Zenology and multiple libraries. Roland insists that Zenlolgy, which is a VST3, must be installed in the (Windows) C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 directory. I moved it to a folder on my D:\ drive and it worked just fine. However, although multiple Factory Preset Banks install with Zenology the patch browser only recoginzed Bank A, even it the plugin was left in the VST3 folder on the C:\ drive. It didn't recognize any of the additional downloaded libraries at all and there is no utility to point the browser to the install location. The install location is requested by the installer, implying users choice. After contacting Roland support (which was reasonably prompt) I found out that, no, the libraries must be located in a specified folder on the C:\ drive only. To add insult to injury I also found out from Roland support that Zenlolgy does not support MIDI patch change protocols. You can use a patch chance message to select any patch with a number between 0-127, but Zenology has patches with numbers higher than 127, thus there is no way to select them, e.g.,, with a patch change message in a DAW. Finally, the Roland Cloud app randomly pops up solicitations for other Roland products on your desktop using the Windows message utilty. I've removed Zenology and Roland Cloud from my PC and won't be using any Roland software products in the forseeable future.
4:55 the piano kinda sounds like the sliver vocal melody by nirvana
Looks really good! Best of both worlds with subscription & perpetual license options for the other cloud synths. Quick question - is it confirmed that the Zencore Pro will support the MC-101/707? Looks the case but want to be sure before I pull the trigger!
Hi Roland . Congrats on the release!
I have a few questions . Do you know with the zenology plugin if you can send a supernatural sound from it to zen core hardware instruments like the rd-88? Say I have Supernatural Trumpet in zenology ... can that tone be sent to the RD-88? Trying to find out more about the RD-88 and how it “manages” its sounds. How much memory does it have etc for additional sounds / expansions . I own the Fantom 8 (which I love). But wondering if all the sounds that are on it (and now supposedly in Zenology) can be moved to the RD-88 . The RD-88 has my interest as it would be an easier / lighter board to gig with .
Any help appreciated ! Cheers
Steve
So does this mean I have to have a subscription for Roland Cloud? That thing is mad expensive 😩.
We are excited to announce three new membership plans, the option to make one-time purchases with Lifetime Keys plus ZENOLOGY Lite for Roland Accounts. Visit the link in description to find out more.
Okay... think about this objectively... a Jupiter X with zencore is $3,249, a Fantom 6 with zencore is $4,299, but you think getting Zencore for THREE DOLLARS a month is "mad expensive?" Zencore had to be at least 1/2 million $ in development conservatively, and another 1/4 million on this plug and the sound development? No offense, but how much do you think it's worth?
@@dougansell How much would you made from you're next song if someone gave you the equipment for free to make it.
High quality professional synth sounds have never been so affordable or accessible imo, these are some of the best sounds in their flagship synths. It's actually mad inexpensive for what it is.
@@dougansell Buy a Fantom 6 and you own it. With luck, forever, with more luck forever in working shape. Can't be expected for a subscription.
Saying "It's the same engine that powers our professional hardware instruments like Fantom" seems a bit misleading because the Fantom also has the SuperNatural and the V-Piano engines. There are tons of sounds in the Fantom that are not in this plugin.
What is this? Recording software? I bought a workstation to get away from a crashing computer.
Wouldn’t it be cool if it was all available on iOS just like KORG does with its gadget app
Wouldn't it be cool if all the Korg apps had Win compatibility
just subscribed...but why D-50 emulation sounds so great and 3D better than the hardware (I have had the keyboard version) and Zenology presets lack reverb and thickness? Probably you should simulate the circuits behaviour as you did for the D-50. I have had also the Fantom G6 and the sound was mind blowing. Now I use an Apollo 8, I think it uses good dacs but I haven't the same bright and deep sound from your Zenology XV sounds. Probably old dacs available in the XV or JV hardware generated more harmonics. Please add reverb and DCB.
Hi there! Thank you for taking the time to provide us with this feedback. Roland Cloud is always evolving, and we appreciate the input.
Why there is no VST2 plugin ? Just VST3 for Windows. ??????
Please consult our FAQ page for compatibility information. If you need further assistance, click the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the page. rolandcloud.com/support.
Can it run in LogicPro X?
Yes
Christ I've been searching my PC trying to find the damn thing for over a week! I thought it got installed with RCM, and I was right! Their site is a joke, I couldn't find any info or links on the Zenology Lite software. You're just left going round in circles from one link to another! Not that I can open it as my DAW doesn't load VST3!!! ARGGHH!! Not to mention that the whole deal is confusing as hell! Like which expansions are compatible with what??? Think I'm done with hardware! And things like this just make it sooo NOT worth the hassle!
this shit has me like a kid in a sweet shop. No way could I ever afford all those individual synth keyboards. Ultimate is still kinda expensive monthly but it's a lot cheaper than buying these keyboards outright.
so they just make their fantom and jupitor into a vst...and srx too?great job!
They have a Fantom vst? Or the Fantom sounds are in Zenology?
@@1brazyy only the fantom zen core part.fantom has the vpiano part and the sampler part which are not included in the zenology .zenology only has the zencore and pcm srx part as far as I know
That is awesome. Would love to see Roland 307, 505, 808, and 909 in this vst of Zeonlogy.
Heel, thank you for taking the time to provide us with this feedback. Roland Cloud is always evolving, and we appreciate input from our users.
Can I put roland cloud sound library on external ssd?
ChazSeamus28 yeah I did that.
Chaz, please consult our FAQ page for compatibility information. If you need further assistance, click the "Contact Us" button at the bottom of the page. rolandcloud.com/support
What's wrong with that CPU meter?
Do i have to use Zenology in a DAW?
Cloud only?
Cris, yes. ZENOLOGY is available with a Roland Account: rolandcloud.com/roland-account/memberships/.
Roland Cloud should be simpler... Been trying to figure out how to play a Juno for 3 days now.
For iPad?
Johnny, Roland Cloud is always evolving, and we appreciate input from our users. Stay tuned.
Roland Cloud I sure hope that you bring the full Roland D50 sounds to zencore and iPad!
It's a shame there's no vst2. I can't even test this to see if I'd like it.
Theres both vst2 and vst3
@@connora5752 vst3 only
@@raelic3 believe me my friend. I'm looking at it right now. The stuff downloads in vst2 and vst3
If roland made standalone Vst with one touch preset change and with lots of tones like workstation keyboard xps 10/30 juno famtom...
Where is "Hearts of Space" on JD800?
What kind of necro names a preset 'Dark Sub' like we know you just threw a verb on a sinewave
Really wish it was compatible with MacOS 10.12 and up instead of 10.14 and up.
If you need assistance, or have questions about compatibility click the “Contact Us” button at the bottom of the page. rolandcloud.com/support
Have Roland run out of electronic components & ideas? How about releasing super beefed up versions of all classic analogue synths such as Juno 106, Jupiter 8 etc with all new sleek, consistent stylish professional design. The latest, best electrical components, sound engines, effects engines, solid/stiff brushed polished metal buttons, sliders/switches with no wobble or slackness. Super resolution screens with simple UI to essential parameters without much menu diving. Super new versions of actual hardware synths you can touch, own & play with forever.
Too bad Roland is subscription only. I'll stick with owning my stuff. Cherry Audio and Arturia... here I come.
ROLAND : ZENOLOGY : ZEN ;
in JAPAN ; Tecnology ; C.P. computer :
Memory : Programminh ; imput ;
Effectos : Ritmos ;Timbres ;Tons ;
interface ; Hardware ; Memory ;
Tranformacion ; Som Digital ;Gráficos ;
dos mais Variados : Frequências ;
Som Musical !!! : Fantástic !!! Ótimo !!!
ROLAND : ZENOLOGY - ZEN :😍😍😃😄😲😍😃😄😲😍💡💡💡💡👍👍👍👍☝️☝️
Looks good but stop re-rinsing the same old same old. Unless they are going to be virtually be 1to1 exact models of the original hardware with all the same inherent features but in software.
Model expansions for the 707 please. The way you marketed the 707 was
like the model expansions would be a part of the 707. Very misleading
It's good sounding but it shows that Roland goes the way all software. All Roland gear are boxes with the same software core.
音がめちゃくちゃいいな
UIがもうちょっとかっこよかったらなぁ
UI変えてVST単体で売ればバカ売れしそう・・・
e ci vuole un PC potente come quello di MATRIX!!!
I really hate the idea of a subscription service. I would have paid $49 or so for a plugin to give me the ability to edit my zencore patches on my computer. But congrats, anyway.
At 3 dollars a month you really can't complain.
@@maccagrabme Watch me.
I think it’s $7 more a month if you want to edit them,.. the $10 option.
you can buy lifetime keys
@@bassc I hate the ecosystem approach to most things.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Roland, hope you read user comments... Please FIX fixed starting phase issue in Zenology Pro with unison on oscillator level. In this state of things this has NO USE at all.... Oscillators have unison feature, but you can't use this normally, what a joke.
Work on your plugins stability before you release more stuff. Can you guys not make your plugins less cpu intensive? I’ve seen other instruments do more with less performance issues. Please address this, I’m definitely interested in the Roland plugins. Just not in their current bloated form.
Gunther, our Legendary instruments can be optimized to be more CPU efficient. Check out the options menu on the interface of our Legendary synths.
ROLAND : SINTESYZER :
ZENBEATS : PROGRAMMING : IMPUT ;
GRÁFICS : DIGITAL : NEW -
GERAÇÃO : ZENBEATS :
SINTESYZER : ZENBEATS :
GRÁFICS : DIGITAL ; PAINEL : COMPUTER :
GRÁFICS : CONTROLLER :
ROLAND : JAPAN :
2023 ~ 2024 .
only in vst 3 not 2. sorry Reason users.
Really? I've bought my Jupiter Xm, which includes jupiter 8 , juno 106, jx8p, sh 101, wv 5080. Why should I purchase the software version of Sh 101 and pay 149 US dollars for it? It's absurd and also stupid!
Shut Up and take my money!
Sorry Roland... you are losing a substantial portion of potential customers with this business model. Love your work... but I and many will never jump on the bandwagon. Though in saying that... I do own a Fantom 7. Best synth/workstation with a beautiful keybed. Now that is worth every penny and for years to come. If you ever provide a purchase once, own it forever with options to purchase future soundpacks/addons... I would jump on it. But I won't hold my breath. Thanks for the vid.
These interfaces look cheap and useless!!!
Cpu 140% LoLL
No money for cloud services. No thanks.
Zenology lite dude .
Come on its 3 dollars a month, are you a serious musician or not?
That’s how all the company do, 3 dollars a month and then it’s going up up up
@@maccagrabme A serious musician doesn't rent instruments. Suppose the subscription lapses or Roland ditches the Cloud then how do you edit your own productions? Have you ever gone to license pro music software and it says 'Authorize Online' and 'Authorize Offline', do you know why you get those options? A serious music producer doesn't have their production machines connected to the internet, the connection can cause processor spikes which makes the playback glitch out, and then you have virus software issues. You need a constant internet connection to run this, not smart nor professional. Professional musicians and producers don't use a bank of presets that they can't tweak and edit to their hearts content. In the last six months I have spent £2,300 on a computer for music production, £1,200 on upgrades for that computer, £1,700 on controller and audio interface upgrades and around £2,000 on production software - none of which is rented. I've spent another £500 on software since March, to keep me entertained in lockdown, none of that is rented. I also own a Yamaha CS 50 (£2,500) and Roland Integra 7 (£1,500). And I like this product, and if Roland wants to sell me a version that I don't need to rent, don't need an online connection for and can edit deep and create my own sounds then I will consider it. But don't be saying people aren't serious musicians or producer because they won't fork out $360 over a ten year period for an overpriced toy of non-editable presets that they need to be online to use, that is highly unprofessional. This sales model is a joke in the industry. I can forgive Roland for being this silly, they are an old-school hardware company and don't really understand how modern computer based music production works, they don't even sell a grid based music controller, the Novation LaunchPad is 11 years old. They even sell a virtual instrument TB 303 for the same money Behringer currently sells a hardware 303, Behringer makes low cost analog synths because they listen to what people want, Roland doesn't. And these aren't even Roland's presets to sell. Look at the TB 303, Roland tried to sell that as a bass instrument companion for musicians to jam along to, then Dance/Acid music producers took that instrument and used it out of purpose and made a bunch of crazy sounds for it beyond intended purpose - and now Roland is taking the creative work of these people and claiming it as their own work to sell. That isn't right is it? I'll take Zenology serious when Roland takes themselves serious.
Standart computer sounds...absurd.....
Needs a VST option not just VST 3 👎👎👎🗑🗑🗑🗑🗑
Another scam by Roland to force on musicians a "pay to play" environment!
Actually they now give you the option to buy synths outright. You can now buy what they call "lifetime keys" for synths of your choice.
OMG, SUPER BORING!! Really Roland??
why use ableton as an example daw?? you're encouraging people to use the worst daw out there :(
lol...Logic 10.5 is actually sick