12 Tiny Whoop Comparison

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  • Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024

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  • @skybug3
    @skybug3 5 лет назад +16

    Most comprehensive and useful review of a range of quads that I've ever seen. Well done!

  • @grindz145
    @grindz145 5 лет назад +10

    Awesome extensive review, an engineers review, and I appreciate it!

  • @pioupiou1098
    @pioupiou1098 4 года назад

    WONDERFULL idea for test the thrust with balance tools !!
    Thanks for the build

  • @protonus
    @protonus 5 лет назад

    Hey John - the LDARC GT7 has been upgraded to V2! The new version has 1102 12800 KV motors! It has a lot more power now. You can buy just the motors from Grayson Hobby etc to upgrade your existing V1. I'd be curious what you think after the upgrade - for me, it was a huge difference. Also - I would highly discourage flying the 2S brushless whoops on 1S - basically ever, even indoors. Instead, setup a throttle cut on your radio - Oscar Liang has a great tutorial on how to do this with a slider/knob/dial on your radio to make the throttle cut adjustable! I fly my Trashcan indoors on a 50% to 75% throttle cut or so, on 2S, and it flies WAY better this way than it does on 1S - because you can still get the full speed of the motors for maneuvering, which greatly increases it's handling! When you run it on 1S you lose all that handling!

  • @danlatu209
    @danlatu209 5 лет назад +3

    I love that thrust stand. I'll see if I can get a thrust number from my 802 19500kv and when they come in the mail.

    • @MrRelys
      @MrRelys 5 лет назад

      I think 0802 19000kv is the sweet spot for 31mm props on 1s.

  • @Burittosyumyum
    @Burittosyumyum 4 года назад

    Thanks for the overview. This solidify my decision on buying a TinyHawk 2 for my first drone!

  • @DavidLuchetti
    @DavidLuchetti 4 года назад

    Your videos are very helpful! Thank you! ... i have a tinyhawk 2 (and race) and a mobula6 ... i find them all a little too fast for inside the house at my current skill level ... maybe i need a brushed model.
    What do you think is the easiest (slowest?) - and controllable - indoor quad?

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      The Eachine QX65 brushed quad is the easiest quad to fly FPV the link is here ruclips.net/video/96eC6sSP2zk/видео.html
      But you may add a throttle cut of 60% in beta flight to slow the quad down and give you more control on the throttle. Practice outdoors or in a big space also helps.

  • @petereuvideodrones
    @petereuvideodrones 3 года назад

    Although not on your list anymore, I just ordered a Kingkong-Ldarc Tiny8x (FrySky) with a Jumper T-Lite.
    That 85mm frame with brushed motors look like just the bumper-cart I need 😁
    I hear the Tiny8 is kinda loud?
    Thanks for sharing your findings.

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  3 года назад +1

      Two great picks for getting started. There is nothing wrong with the Tiny8x with brushed motors and it should take a lot of crashes and is big enough to find outdoors. I also just bought the jumper T- Lite and it is also a good radio for the price. I will try to do a review on it next week. What did you end up for goggles.

    • @petereuvideodrones
      @petereuvideodrones 3 года назад

      @@jmoore3854 The jury is still out on that one... I still own a pair of EV800D's, but I need double spacers to see anything. Almost bought an EV100, glad I didn't. EV200d seem a better choice (I hear you need to keep away from the 300D's, but the O's are great) SKY02C and SKY02x are also a contenders. Still need to look into the cheap "SJ RG01".

    • @petereuvideodrones
      @petereuvideodrones 3 года назад

      Maybe a CobraX.

  • @travis.stevens
    @travis.stevens 4 года назад

    Great video as always! Tried to comment on your Toothpick video but comments are closed. Trying to decide between the Diatone GTB229 with 8500kv or 10000kv motors. Which one should a beginner like me get if I plan to fly 2s? Thanks!

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад +1

      Thanks for the comment will look into why the comments are closed on that video and try to open them up. As for your question what kv on the GTB229. I have the 10,000kv model and wanted to get the 8,500kv model. If your going to run at 2S with the 65mm 2 bladed props get the 10,000kv model it will be faster. If you want to change props to an Avan 2.5"Rush or 2" Blur prop and run at 3S get the 8,500kv model. I am looking for a good sale on the GTB229 8,500KV to pick one up.
      John from Chicago

    • @travis.stevens
      @travis.stevens 4 года назад

      John Moore thanks for the reply! I’m probably going to fly it slower since I’m still relatively new to the hobby. Will the 8500s give slightly longer flight times?

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад +1

      @@travis.stevens the 8500KV should give you longer flight times and in the future if you want more speed can go to tri-blades or maybe 3S. I got the comments turned back on. I saw BG has a sale on for $110 but like buying in the USA so will look at those stores.

  • @cizrek
    @cizrek 4 года назад

    Nice flying. You have like all the Tiny Whoops lol.

  • @polemagnetfpv
    @polemagnetfpv 5 лет назад

    Thanks John great list of the best of the best and how they perform, those of us who have most of these quads know all that you have reviewed except the thrust comparisons which is up for a big thank you. Just subscribed and rang the bell. Noobs will be pushed in the right direction, letting them decide there flight ratio preference. Thanks for your hard work and your interest to spreed your knowledge to got the inexperienced into this great hobby.

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  5 лет назад +1

      Glad you understand and liked the importance of the thrust testing. Hope others will start doing this also. Thanks for the comment.
      John From Chicago

  • @Phrancis5
    @Phrancis5 5 лет назад

    Great list for those that live in urban places or have a lot of bad weather. I think my favorite is my US-65, then Mobula7, Kingkong7, and lastly the santa whoop - or in my case a regular Eachine E011 with low rider cam bound to a flysky TX via multi-protocol mod. It's like night and day compared to that toy TX.

  • @SpiderGoatz
    @SpiderGoatz 5 лет назад +1

    Great video as I'm looking for a Tiny Whoop to deal with this crap weather we've been having (I'm in Joliet). I subbed when I realized you were local!

  • @simonlanglois5538
    @simonlanglois5538 4 года назад

    Would be nice to see this list updated with the latest quads like mobula6, meteor65 and UZ65.. I Especially like to see the real stats you're putting these like thrust and power ratio.. One thing I was asking myself is: with the ''ground effect'' isn't the thrust amplified? Maybe you could use a window bug screen to create some distance with the ground... Just throwing an idea here

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      Hope to get an updated video out in 4 weeks waiting for a few more whoops to come in. I am changing the way I do thrust test. I am seeing how many grams of rope each quad will lift so most of the time the quad will be several feet off the ground. Thanks for watching and giving your comment

    • @simonlanglois5538
      @simonlanglois5538 3 года назад

      @@jmoore3854 Awesome I'll be watching the part 2 for sure! In fact you inspired myself to bid a simple thrust rig to try to better compare motor-prop combo! Thanks a lot!

  • @HaveFaithInGod
    @HaveFaithInGod 5 лет назад

    Great info! You did a lot of work. I have a "Santa" whoop but it's a Eachine E011. Flies great with my Jumper Plus. Don't need the unsteady "bean" tx.

  • @italosilva4029
    @italosilva4029 4 года назад

    I'm beginning the fpv and I choose the trashcan after so many reviews and flight's, I decide to mount the setup.
    Taranis qx7.
    Ev800D.
    Trashcan.

  • @peter4presidente
    @peter4presidente 4 года назад +3

    Love the scientific approach, thanks :) and loving the whoops as well!

  • @ColdStoneRacing
    @ColdStoneRacing 4 года назад

    Im so indecisive. What do you guys think is best for the price and strength?

  • @OsirisPL
    @OsirisPL 3 года назад

    Hi John, very cool power meter you've built there :)

  • @danisfishing9013
    @danisfishing9013 4 года назад

    Hi, what whoop would you recommend I have already a bit of experience with drones and fpv I was looking at the mobula 7 and the mantis 85

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      If your looking for something to fly outside the toothpick class works good. For the money the Larva X is hard to beat. Flys good and great camera. I have not flown the mantis so can’t comment on it.

  • @ramim.5856
    @ramim.5856 4 года назад

    I am trying from days to understand newbie thing, I have tiny 7x and r7 but I can't get good video signal indoor, is that normal? I have fatshark v3 with rapidfire and the tiny whoops give 25mw but I always lose the signal indoor and get only like 20 meters and I don't think this is normal and I fed up searching on youtube 😢 looking for a solution Thanks!

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      Sounds like your not on the right channel. Look at the LEDs on vtx to check this. Sometimes the rapidfire on some quads do not work in their native mode try switching it over to legacy mode like all other goggles use. Hope that works.

  • @propsoff
    @propsoff 5 лет назад

    Very interesting and cool review of many whoops at once.. Your collection is vast compared to mine.
    I'm asked almost daily it seems, "what is the best thing to do fpv for the first time". I have suggested the tinyhawk bundle. Would you agree? Talking about people that have no equipment and no experience.. Is there a current, better bundle I'm unaware of?
    Awsome spreadsheet!
    Thanks...

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  5 лет назад

      The tinyhawk bundle is a great one for beginners at $165. One problem I have with that bundle is the radio only allows one model to be bound to it at a time. The Evolution radio is $40 and allows 5 models and is better quality but it is flysky and frsky is the future.

    • @propsoff
      @propsoff 5 лет назад

      @@jmoore3854
      Good information.
      I have recommended getting the qx7 and doing the simulator, however, the immediate learning curve is frustrating for non-technical people.. So, the bundle like the tinyhawk kind of gets all these pieces and parts in their hands right away and they can start crashing right away.. LOL
      I just want to share this hobby with everyone I meet.

  • @danisfishing9013
    @danisfishing9013 4 года назад

    Hi, i am looking to get into these woops but I was wondering do you use one recevier for all of them or have many for certain woops thanks.

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      Thanks for the question it is always nice getting new people into the hobby and a tiny whoop is a good way to start. Each whoop has it's own receiver they are built into each quad. I think what you meant to ask does each quad have it's own radio or can they all share one radio. These all share one hobby grade radio which cost about $100 except the JJRC H67 Santa whoop which has it's own toy grade radio that cost $16 for the quad and radio plus another $12 for the FPV camera. You will also need goggle's which will cost another $50 for a starter box goggle. For someone starting out I would recommend buying a starter kit. The lowest cost starter kit is the Eachine e013 for $51 www.banggood.com/Eachine-E013-Micro-FPV-RC-Drone-Quadcopter-With-5_8G-1000TVL-40CH-Camera-VR006-VR-006-3-Inch-Goggles-p-1182628.html?rmmds=search&ID=513344531097&cur_warehouse=CN .The next step up would be Emax Easy pilot for $110 www.banggood.com/Emax-EZ-Pilot-Beginner-Indoor-FPV-Racing-Drone-With-600TVL-CMOS-Camera-37CH-25mW-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1601210.html?rmmds=search&ID=531930&cur_warehouse=CN . Hobby grade will start at around $200 and includes a $100 radio. Hope this helps.... John from Chicago

    • @danisfishing9013
      @danisfishing9013 4 года назад

      John Moore thanks I will probably get the Emax easy pilot starter kit

  • @cuongphan7967
    @cuongphan7967 3 года назад +1

    Which one is the cheapest guys

  • @MikeRM399
    @MikeRM399 4 года назад

    hi john Moore, great job review, we are in the hobby !! my question ;
    which of those whoops has the best long range flying distance? i like to get a long range flying whoop , thanks,. MikeDroneUfo all the fun with mini drones !!

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      Good Question, most of the tiny whoops only have around 100m range. I should test them to confirm. Some of the newer ones I tested that are not in the review but on the spreadsheet in the comments. They are the BetaFPV 85Pro 230meters, UR 85 265 meters and the new mobula 6 260 meters. I just reviewed the mobula 6 and the review is at ruclips.net/video/zL54JA4qmYs/видео.html

  • @johnharris2683
    @johnharris2683 4 года назад

    Best whoop tutorial on the internet right here

  • @scootroter4859
    @scootroter4859 5 лет назад

    Very well done! Quite the fleet you have. My 2 favorites are in there. The Mobula7 and UR65. A little surprised BetaFPV didn't have a representative in the review since they are so popular, and have so many models. I don't have one either because IMO they want a lot for their gear.

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  5 лет назад +1

      Scoot Roter used my own money to buy all the quads on the list. If I can find a friend that has a BetaFPV that I can borrow for a day or two I will test and add it to the spreadsheet. If a viewer has the Quad and can do a weight and thrust test send me the data and I will add to the spread sheet. Thanks for the comment

    • @scootroter4859
      @scootroter4859 5 лет назад

      @@jmoore3854 great idea! 👍

  • @Thunderbelch
    @Thunderbelch 3 года назад

    Just one note: The way you measured thrust does not give the correct thrust to weight ratio. You're actually measuring the thrust minus the weight of the quad. So in the case of the Trashcan, thrust is actually 200g + 50g = 250g (giving a true ratio of 5:1) because the motors are pushing up against the scale as well as against the weight of the quad. Think of it this way: a quad with a 1:1 ratio would put zero force on the scale since all the thrust goes into keeping the quad up.

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  3 года назад +1

      The thrust on the scale for the trashcan was 150g plus 50g AUW for a total of 200grams so I added the AUW in my totals like you suggested. In my later videos showing thrust I show the math which I did not show on this video. Thanks for watching and commenting. John from Chicago

    • @Thunderbelch
      @Thunderbelch 3 года назад

      @@jmoore3854 Sorry, my mistake then! I must have just seen the setup and not the numbers. Thanks for the great comparison as well as the updated one you did more recently!

  • @allenmuirhead
    @allenmuirhead 4 года назад

    what controller did you use for this and what were your options for rf?

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      I used a Frsky x-lite it supports D8 mode and is small and light weight around $130. I also have a Frsky Q7 it cost a little less $110 but is full-size. For RTF I like the EMAX TinyHawk2 kit it is hard to beat.

  • @bl4ckr4bbit
    @bl4ckr4bbit 4 года назад

    What outdoor quad would you recommend with HD dvr?

  • @djs134
    @djs134 5 лет назад +1

    Just missing a AcroBee lite. Great video

  • @balajiprasad9046
    @balajiprasad9046 3 года назад

    Well done... All in one review 😃

  • @satcastellon
    @satcastellon 4 года назад

    Hola cual es el que me aconsejas que tenga mayor tiempo de vuelo y cuantos minutos son gracias
    Hello, which is the one you advise me to have the longest flight time and how many minutes are thanks?

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      Longest flight time whoop get the TinyHawk S

    • @satcastellon
      @satcastellon 4 года назад

      @@jmoore3854
      hola gracias por la respuesta pero solo necesito el dron ya que tengo la frskay 9x plus y necesito un dron para vuelo tranquilo y si es posible unos 4-5 minutos de vuelo
      hello thanks for the answer but I only need the drone since I have the frskay 9x plus and I need a drone for quiet flight and if possible about 4-5 minutes of flight

    • @satcastellon
      @satcastellon 4 года назад

      aparte lo veo un poco caro quisiera algo mas barato aparte de eso no me gusta ese modelo
      aside I see it a little expensive I would like something cheaper other than that I don't like that model

  • @maxwellmc9734
    @maxwellmc9734 4 года назад

    Love the tree.. cooler testing seeing is believing..

  • @DMarko22
    @DMarko22 5 лет назад +2

    Thats a great comparison, thank you very much. Subscribed.

  • @exploreinfinity7751
    @exploreinfinity7751 5 лет назад +1

    hello guys i really idolized tiny woop ithink if possible can i borrow 1 of them??

    • @HaveFaithInGod
      @HaveFaithInGod 5 лет назад

      Buy ya one moocher! Lol. Good ones out there for $10. ie. Boldclash B03.

  • @krapotkin71
    @krapotkin71 5 лет назад

    best woop test so far.. however im missing inductrix and newbeedrone

  • @johnharris2683
    @johnharris2683 4 года назад

    This is so awesome, nice little indoor track by the way !

  • @bobedibob3084
    @bobedibob3084 5 лет назад

    it snow fun flying outside in the winter

  • @tacospicemafia6
    @tacospicemafia6 4 года назад

    great and in-depth, nabbed myself a tinyhawk

  • @silverback1540
    @silverback1540 4 года назад

    Is the eachine trashcan a battery drainer, compare to the mobula 7?

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      Yes it is a battery drainer with the larger 0803 motors vs 0802 motors. It uses a larger 300 mah vs 250 mah battery. I also found that the higher power requirement puffs more batteries. That is why I recommend the Mobula 7 over the trashcan.
      John from Chicago

    • @silverback1540
      @silverback1540 4 года назад

      @@jmoore3854
      Thanks for ya reply. Spot on was having batteries issue.

  • @RexKodogijo
    @RexKodogijo 4 года назад

    Awesome! Great work for doing such comparison!

  • @supercharged3975
    @supercharged3975 5 лет назад +1

    Well put together comparison. Thanks for sharing

  • @floatypiet
    @floatypiet 4 года назад

    so much effort in this vidoe! Thank you so much!!!

  • @jebrc
    @jebrc 4 года назад

    i want one so bad i live in pa its snowing now lol but one day ill have me a brushless whoop thanks john

  • @wait..what.
    @wait..what. 5 лет назад +1

    thanks for posting. lots of effort 🙏🏾

  • @CockroachFPV
    @CockroachFPV 5 лет назад +1

    That's like the best whoop video I have ever seen ✌️✌️

  • @ronniequalls7217
    @ronniequalls7217 5 месяцев назад

    John where you been , just checking on you , you still whooping ?

  • @markb5373
    @markb5373 4 года назад

    The LDARC 8x is brushed right?

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад +1

      Mark B yes it is brushed the LDARC 8X

  • @fetriner
    @fetriner 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the review. I am late xD. I bougth m80 thinking I can use it outdoors with ACRO. I will still practice in simulator before bougth racing drone.

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  5 лет назад

      The M-80 works outside better in ACRO then in Angle mode. In Angle mode the max angle is very low so doesn't fight the wind good. In ACRO there is no limit on max angle so it should fly outside in some wind. You just can't change the rates so pretty mild in ACRO but it will be good to learn ACRO. Have fun with your M80.

    • @fetriner
      @fetriner 5 лет назад

      @@jmoore3854 Ok good news I will try outside. I bougth all my drones in offers like jjrc h31 at 30 usd furibee f36 at 10 usd, eachine ex2h fpv pack at 100 usd . So I now I can buy diatone gt349 at 120 usd or better build my drone for 150usd ?

  • @parker1ray
    @parker1ray 4 года назад

    Tried helicopters and planes, but I always end up back a quads!

  • @fpvnme4845
    @fpvnme4845 5 лет назад

    deserved a sub well done great great review of all the small things we love .. thank you

  • @daryoushborja5115
    @daryoushborja5115 5 лет назад +2

    Thanks for this awesome video and content. I subscribed.

  • @GoatZilla
    @GoatZilla 5 лет назад

    Wow... I rarely say this but... wow. Great work.

  • @kVarfpv
    @kVarfpv 5 лет назад

    It's only been 6 months but I think you can add like 80 more micros to your list to compare lol

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  5 лет назад +1

      I am working on a comparison of 5 toothpicks and 5 twigs just waiting for the slow boat from china to deliver 3 of the quads.

    • @kVarfpv
      @kVarfpv 5 лет назад

      @@jmoore3854 nice!! Looking forward to it! Let me know if you want to collaborate and share some data. Maybe we can do a series on HD whoops or something. Trying to get buy every model can get expensive.

  • @Prop-A
    @Prop-A 4 года назад

    Very thorough review. Thank you, this is really usefull.

  • @brkfpv60
    @brkfpv60 2 года назад

    Very useful comprasion thank you

  • @leoburton697
    @leoburton697 4 года назад

    Great review!

  • @rcflyair2386
    @rcflyair2386 5 лет назад

    Excellent summary!

  • @lagz89
    @lagz89 4 года назад

    do this power to weight ratio with the new mobula6. thanks

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      Mine is in he mail and should get it tomorrow so will try to post it here this weekend. Thanks for watching and commenting. Will probably do a detail review of it in the next few weeks.
      John from Chicago

    • @lagz89
      @lagz89 4 года назад

      @@jmoore3854 cool, thank you

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      I got it a day early my Mobula 6 has a dry wt. of 19.8g AUW of 27.7g thrust of 88g and power to weight ratio of 3.2. My BetaFPV Meteor has a P/W of 3.1. Need to get some speed lap times on it and range test then I will update the spreadsheet in the description and do a stand alone video on the Mobula 6.....
      John from Chicago

  • @DanRichmondFPV
    @DanRichmondFPV 4 года назад

    Great info thanks!

  • @dronestationtech
    @dronestationtech 3 года назад

    Thanks!

  • @HomeDronen
    @HomeDronen 5 лет назад

    Great review my friend 👍😀

  • @evgeniypetrasko3782
    @evgeniypetrasko3782 5 лет назад

    Thanks from Russia.

  • @worachart111
    @worachart111 5 лет назад

    Great job !

  • @Darksagan
    @Darksagan 5 лет назад

    Great video

  • @tome1271
    @tome1271 4 года назад

    amazing vid

  • @bigb69ti
    @bigb69ti 4 года назад

    your videos have really helped me over the past months since i have been
    watching. I have been looking to get into fpv for awhile. but the flight
    time has always been a turn off but seeing the tinyhawk II Race can get
    about 5mins makes it tempting for me.. tinyhawk race? i am really not
    trying to spend tons of $ just something cheap that will work? that has the best flight time for the buck?

    • @jmoore3854
      @jmoore3854  4 года назад

      That is a good starter quad. Albert Kim just released a good video on that as a starter along with the BetaFPV LiteRadio2 and BetaFPV VR01 Goggles. You could keep it with all BetaFPV products and get the BetaFPV HX100 toothpick. With a larger 520mah battery you will get similar flight times.

    • @bigb69ti
      @bigb69ti 4 года назад

      yes i seen, i have already ordered the the vr01 and the lite radio a few days ago., i think i might go with the tinyhawk 2 instead of the race. i think the race might be to powerful for my backyard?? i have tons of big trees in my backyard, my backyard is pretty much woods so the race might be to fast and easier to tear up?

  • @PanagiotisKampakos
    @PanagiotisKampakos 5 лет назад

    Nice work! 👍👍

  • @andrewfpv4226
    @andrewfpv4226 5 лет назад

    This is a great video!

  • @dronereviewman9580
    @dronereviewman9580 5 лет назад

    Sooo many whoops!!!!
    👍😀👍

  • @Time2FLYAlDiaz
    @Time2FLYAlDiaz 5 лет назад

    Thx for sharing! Subbed

  • @panthai272
    @panthai272 5 лет назад

    Good Work.., thx!

  • @remortafamily105
    @remortafamily105 4 года назад

    Drone giveaway please

  • @NunoCanelas
    @NunoCanelas 5 лет назад

    The Power/wt of the M80 is 1,8 and not 1,3 (99,3
    / 55,3 = 1,8).

  • @obelixer9751
    @obelixer9751 4 года назад

    brushed whoops ? Blasphemi ! how I got here ?

  • @thorondor1593
    @thorondor1593 4 года назад

    When the Whoop you use for the intro has a broken frame in the camera's FOV

  • @dusti25
    @dusti25 4 года назад

    ah, hmm, and ah... basically unbearable to listen to you sadly this could be a good video

    • @nicktopo8380
      @nicktopo8380 3 года назад

      captions and mute, still loads of good info