What people never talk about with winches is you never get the full capacity unless you’re on the last wrap of rope on your drum. So if you have a 50’ winch and you wanna make it as strong as you can (1:1) you should have most of the rope out and not still wrapped around the drum.
@@44whip I bought my recovery kit all inclusive a few months ago on sale at supercheap for $250 down from $400 it has everything in it.. including the snatch block he shows(the big one lol) plus tree protecotrs, snatch rope, towing rope, shackles, etc...
WRONG! A SNATCH BLOCK OR A RECOVERY RING DOES NOT CREATE A MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE AT ALL, IT SIMPLY REDIRECTS THE ROPE! It drives me nuts! For a mechanical advantage to reduce the amount of energy of each pull, a BLOCK AND TACKLE setup is required where one pulley is static and a second pulley is moving. Only when a block and tackle setup is used is the energy to pull the rope 1/2 HOWEVER then the amount of rope to pull is doubled. Think about it, if a simple redirect of the rope could reduce the required energy by half, a person could redirect the rope 10 times around 10 trees and the amount of the pull would be reduced by 10 times? NO. In a block and tackle, energy of the pull is in half over DOUBLE the timeframe. Then double the length of rope is pulled. With a block and tackle, the same amount of energy was required to pull but it was just spread out over a longer time.
OMG, going from single cable to using a single pulley does NOT increase the power of your winch at all, simple physics (look it up). You need a 2 pulley system to double the pull force. One pulley has 1 advantage, it allows you to apply equal force to 2 recovery points to keep the vehicle more stable (if setup correctly) but total power remains the same.
No, you've got it wrong. Let's say his rig weighs 6 tonnes. He loops his winch cable through one pulley and back onto the rig. When he starts winding , the force on the pulley and the thick rope that attaches to an anchor point is 6 tonnes. From the pulley to the rig, the force is spread evenly between two lengths of cable. 3 tonne on the strand going to the winch, 3 tonne on the strand attached to his rig.. This doubles the maximum load that the winch can move.
Thumbs up because of his accent. He's trustworthy because he's from a foreign land.
I’m guessing you need tension on the line to start it though? Other wise the rope will fall out of the ring.
when the truck is helping by driving and overtakes the rope under strain and causes slack what keeps the rope on the pulley?
What happens when it gets roughed up over time due to dirt and debris and then starts fraying your rope?
1dollar worth of sandpaper and your as good as new
simon miles
So you have to carry sandpaper with you on the trails.
Robert doesn’t everybody as part of the tool kit (wet / dry)?
@@Robert-cu9bm A 12 pack of bog roll for the camp no worries, but a sheet of sandpaper, woah now lets not load up the old 200 series too much ;)
what is the friction loss compared to the old snatch block. Seen somewhere that this could be up to 50% more
Look good..but i have wire cable, so I stock with the old ones ... maybe when I upgrade to synthetic cable.....👍
been waiting 6 months to use mine worked great
Im guessing there is some friction loss. When i work with blocks having axles there is loss
This is great. I need one of these recovery kits
Outofdoors 4x4 me too
This is one of the most Aussie video I’ve ever seen 😂😂
Does this setup give any mechanical advantage?
It looks like a 1:1 setup.
What people never talk about with winches is you never get the full capacity unless you’re on the last wrap of rope on your drum. So if you have a 50’ winch and you wanna make it as strong as you can (1:1) you should have most of the rope out and not still wrapped around the drum.
Has any one else looked at the price??
Hench why it's not mentioned! LOL
$200
@@44whip ouchhhhhh.... :(
You can get a whole kit for $69.00
@@44whip I bought my recovery kit all inclusive a few months ago on sale at supercheap for $250 down from $400 it has everything in it.. including the snatch block he shows(the big one lol) plus tree protecotrs, snatch rope, towing rope, shackles, etc...
Think I’ll stick with what I have.
how long will it last ...?
🤣Cause’ weights such an issue for ol mate’s minimal setup he goes bush with, not
Every little bit adds up! Cheers, Team All4Adventure
Destin, you?
Awesome as jase
You should get a snatch block for your winch. It will double the capacity. Also i didnt see any ice after you blew away that snow.
String five if them together 😁
Do they work with shell cable????
steel cable?
Nope. It will eat through the aluminium in seconds.
Stick with a snatch block for steel / poly rope.
Friction burn..
4x4 walkers wacky world walker moves to slow to generate enough heat
WRONG! A SNATCH BLOCK OR A RECOVERY RING DOES NOT CREATE A MECHANICAL ADVANTAGE AT ALL, IT SIMPLY REDIRECTS THE ROPE! It drives me nuts! For a mechanical advantage to reduce the amount of energy of each pull, a BLOCK AND TACKLE setup is required where one pulley is static and a second pulley is moving. Only when a block and tackle setup is used is the energy to pull the rope 1/2 HOWEVER then the amount of rope to pull is doubled.
Think about it, if a simple redirect of the rope could reduce the required energy by half, a person could redirect the rope 10 times around 10 trees and the amount of the pull would be reduced by 10 times? NO.
In a block and tackle, energy of the pull is in half over DOUBLE the timeframe. Then double the length of rope is pulled.
With a block and tackle, the same amount of energy was required to pull but it was just spread out over a longer time.
It needs a bearing. No way its as beneficial as the steel one. Too much friction
I like it
That's a awesome bitta gear 💪💪👌👌🤠
OMG, going from single cable to using a single pulley does NOT increase the power of your winch at all, simple physics (look it up). You need a 2 pulley system to double the pull force. One pulley has 1 advantage, it allows you to apply equal force to 2 recovery points to keep the vehicle more stable (if setup correctly) but total power remains the same.
so a fiddle block?
No, you've got it wrong. Let's say his rig weighs 6 tonnes. He loops his winch cable through one pulley and back onto the rig. When he starts winding , the force on the pulley and the thick rope that attaches to an anchor point is 6 tonnes. From the pulley to the rig, the force is spread evenly between two lengths of cable. 3 tonne on the strand going to the winch, 3 tonne on the strand attached to his rig.. This doubles the maximum load that the winch can move.
$199.00 Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha
Typical 4x4 piss creek science. Imagine trying to reinvent the wheel.