I graduated highschool in America in 2010. Occasionally we would go to the computer lab, but still did all of our assignments with pencil and paper. I had no idea how much school has changed since then.
This video is an exaggeration. I’m a teacher and I assure you we still use textbooks. However, I still agree screens are the future. Denying this is like saying “Oh, the internet is just a fad!” Screens are here to stay. They aren’t going anywhere.
@@wackyruss Agree, heck. With the AR/VR tech steadily developing and becoming smaller, cheaper and more useful. Next thing you know everyone is wearing VR/AR glasses the size of normal glasses. Nonstop.
@@xander9460 I actually think that in the far future we will MERGE with our tech- becoming some kind of Cyborgs. It’s inevitable. Also AI will become omnipresent like some sort or ghost in the machine that assists us with daily life- just as long as AI doesn’t turn evil. Everyone will have a personal AI Robot servant or something. Eventually we will build a Dyson Sphere around our Sun to harvest 100% of its power and move to a Type I civilization on the Kardeshev Scale. Doing everything on laptops is just the beginning.
I'm no luddite, I'm a software engineer who loves technology but I will say screens are BAD for learning not because they emit light but because 99% of screens I've encountered since 2010 can play games, go online, browse arbitrary websites and basically allow you to be 100% unfocused. When I was in school textbooks kept you focused, perhaps you'd read the wrong page here and there but overall you'd be following the material you needed to understand. Computer class was the ONLY class I didn't focus in and instead spent it playing video and learning to program for my side business (valuable, but only because it was in computer class). I support a move away from screens for children.
That was the moment that I watch this video. Also the same horror when the kids are told to write essays without auto spell check and grammar suggestion.
We can have 35-40 students to one teacher in a classroom in the US. Here it looks like about 15 students with 2 teachers. No wonder our public school are failing.
in Sweden a common size of class is about 25 students each teacher obv way better than 35 to 40 on one teacher lmao When I was in highschool we were 27 students in one class but school is failing here too, tho due to very different reasons
@@oaksnice not at all. "En typisk undervisningsgrupp i Sverige 2023 har 25 elever, om man slår ihop alla skolformer från förskoleklass till kommunal vuxenutbildning. Det visar sammanställningen av data från Sveriges Lärare"
@@unoki99 Om man slår ihop precis allting blir det såklart färre. Därför jag skrev "åtminstone större städer". USA har inte heller speciellt många per klass om man tar genomsnitt över hela landet. "The typical class size in US public schools is 16-23 students. In the academic year 2020-2021, the mean class size was 18.3 students, a slight decrease from the 2017-2018 average of 19.6 students. These figures represent the mean across both primary and secondary education. "
Our kids grew up with textbooks and workbooks. I've read what teachers have been saying about digitization and the problems with it. The motivation on digital is to save money and space because textbooks are expensive, have to be stored and there is some amount of loss. We had a home library of about 3,000 books and we took our kids to the library every week. I used to buy digital books but I've gone back to physical books because I tend to read books with fewer distractions despite the higher convenience factor of digital.
@@chuckchan4127 The importance of technology today is undeniable, however, when it comes to making reading a hobbies, physical books are definitely more beneficial to our eyes, intelligence and concentration.
As a teacher, I agree. While computers are super useful, they have a ton of downsides, especially with younger kids. If nothing else, I have seen the incrediable decline in older kids knowing how to write on paper clearly
I'm sorry to disagree. I understood that children needs guidance and teachers are essential for human education. And to guide those children not to be influence thru those so called downsides "they need to be educated". It is much faster to learn words and it's meaning in new technology unlike to search in dictionary. they don't have examples, sounds (pronunciation) or synonyms and antonyms either. Not to mention the expenses of buying books and materials for manual education. And yeah the pain and struggle to write down your thoughts while your handwriting is so unreadable that people around you (students and teachers) laugh at you like are a disabled person (technically, there's a such thing called dyslexia but not too many people or teachers know that) as if everyone has a good handwriting. so for that trauma I say no thank you for manual education.
I am glad things are getting back to the way it was before. Children in Norway are having ipads instead of real books and so many have terrible hand writing. There has been a discussion about it lately and I think they are changing things.
@@chuckchan4127most kids won’t grow up to make 6 figures, writing will not go anywhere and if the grid ever goes out I guess you’re going to need to write in print.
My recent experience is that many teenagers these days can't hand write anything - they themselves can't read their own writing. On top of that, they can't do simple arithmetic. And some can't spell. It's scary when they can't do basic things.
@@What.s_the_Truth That's ridiculous. As a teenager myself I don't know anybody who can't properly write, or do simple math, or spell. Most kids at my high school are taking lots of advanced classes that you yourself would probably have rough time with. Like AP Calculus for example. We do all our math on paper, write pages of essays every week on paper, and lots more assignments on paper.
Very good! I'm a software engineer and entirely oppose computers in elementary school. They do not make students learn better. Computers in schools are a result of corporations looking for new sources of income. Disguised as wanting to improve education. For older students it's fine, but we don't need teachers teaching kids how to use computers. Kids can learn that on their own through experimentation, typically better than an average teacher could teach it.
@tw8464 He's wrong. I'm a IT professional who actually taught at a school. He literally is wrong on every point. You want better learning environments? Fund it, both the teachers AND the IT staff AND the technology provided to students. And for God's sake get rid of worksheets!
@73andy73 lmao, one of the most cringe posts I've seen. Ironically, I left because of the trash wages so at least you got that right. Even a clock with dogshit is right twice a day.
The "screen economy" has serious costs especially to young children. All these young kids were handed screens despite NO ONE KNEW the impact on brain development kids being on these screens 24/7 at home and school and everywhere in between would have on them. The perverse incentives of the rotten corrupt "screen economy" make the "platform design" games and algorithms incredibly addictive very similar to how tobacco companies operated. That's not even getting into the ethics and consequences of this colossal theft of human beings private property their data, theft of a person's personal data from birth to death, from children who can't consent, that constitutes their lives and the government letting corporations do anything under the sun with the stolen data to no limits. There is absolutely nothing backing up this idea that "students learn better" using screens. But there is a big industry of "online learning" and pay to get "access" to "learning" using "codes." The corporations knew the "problem" with books once you buy the book you don't have to keep paying for "access."
I did my whole high school online. I graduated from virtual school in 2004. I literally only used the computer for online lectures and typing up my work. I spent about 2 hours a day on the computer. I was self motivated enough to get my work done and have the rest of the day to go to the gym and work part time. They also offered optional classes in person. It was limited so I had a semester in a public high school so that I could experience the regular school life again but decided to finish my studies at home instead. I got used to learning on my own and having lots of free time. 8 hours of classes seemed like a waste of time for me. But online learning isn’t for everyone.
You're missing one thing here; out of these 6-8 hours in school there are quite a few hours spent in socializing - with friends from the same class and also with other pupils younger and older ones which adds a lot to kids confidence and builds communication skills for life, they are doing PE few times a week depending on age , playing team sports or just running and exercising, eating with the school mates and learning how to behave at meal times. Learning online does not provide any of these activities
I think the issue is also that these children started using the computer while they were still learning the basics, like writing, grammar ect. It’s harder to practice writing with a pen or grammar on a computer that automatically corrects most of this. It’s should probably only be used for older students, where the focus lies on more complex subjects.
@@julchensweet2538 Absolutely! But I also see this problem with children in public middle school. I live in Canada. They don’t have the reading and writing skills that they should have at their age. Same with math. I give my daughter extra math at home and she reads novels whereas her peers do not. Most of the students in her school aren’t learning traditional math and have poor grammar and spelling. This is another issue with using too much technology at home and at school. And also the way the education system is moving away from traditional methods.
I had access to a computer when I was in my teens and to a cellphone (not a smart one) till my first year of university, even without access to internet till I was a young adult I got addicted to screens, my concentration has been affected and now I'm working towards recover my concentration and increase my attention span before getting bored. Kids nowadays spend way too much time using screens instead of living in the real word, if we adults get so hooked up on screens what could happen with kids who are still developing their brains.
2:10 The conservatives don't want a centralized school system, it was the conservative parties that decentralized the schools to begin with. Sweden have seen a big dip in grades since then.
The conservatives are the type of party to want to stop schools from using digital technology. and to make sure that happens, they would probably want a centralized school system
It looks like it was both. It was initially presented by social democrats, but was walked farther and farther by a _"non-socialist coalition government"._ My source is Lisbeth Lundahl her study in _Revue internationale d’éducation de Sèvres,_ _"Swedish education reform: High ambitions and troubling results"_ But then I'm not Swedish, so I'm open to corrections if her study is flawed.
in my old school we only used computers once a week but here in my new school we need ipads for every class and everyone here is so distracted now i swear… doesn’t help that we use them for 8 hours a day…
I think there were some studies proving that our memory works better with reading from paper than screen rather and with handwriting than typing. I don’t have any links though, but this is also what I observe with my own experience.
That's true and beneficial for children who are very young, but the purpose of taking notes isn't to remember on the spot. It's to review. For me, digital just seems so much easier to review. Papers have finite sizes, erasing is terrible, and you can read clear text.
"We have to read ourselves...." "I have trouble writing..." Well then its good that they read and write themselves. The entire point of school is practice when you don't know something well
The brighter path is taken here by Sweden. On a lighter note, students complaining of a slow-freezing system makes for a thought- are the poor things handed underpowered and overpriced Intel-based systems!
The computers froze, not doing complex 3D modeling but doing grade school math exercises? Highly sus. As the kids say. Or rather as the kids said a year and a half ago.
After living in Sweden for 3 years, I will say that some of the parents are pretty lazy and often give their toddlers ipads or phones to keep them busy while the parents continue to live out their social lives. The amount of Swedish kids and young adults that wear glasses is quite noticable as well.
The phenomenon of glasses and first and second-world countries has been studied to death and there were so many theories, but hardly anyone suggested it was screens as that's only a very new addition and children's sight has been getting worse and worse for 100 years now. The world is gradually becoming shortsighted and literally every generation has noticed the next needing more glasses. Look it up. The reason is the lack of light going into the child's eye while it's developing. (obviously a screen is bright, but have you ever looked at your phone outside, and you can bearly see it. But it's not enough apparently.) Reading or the lack of the eye focusing on objects further away was the main theory for decades, but in fact, it was being inside in low light, relative to outdoor areas. (such as mandatory schooling in the last century) Also that teacher sounds ridiculous saying that the children apparently have less of a vocabulary reading on a different media. Reading is reading and the more you read the more words you learn. Books don't have a wider vocabulary than the internet.
@@Eoin-B That entire message could have been shorter (using the skill of summarizing), as well as polite by saying: Here is some research that sheds light on the topic.
The No Tech approach is what makes the Waldorf private schools here in the U.S. so attractive to Silicon Valley tech gurus AND us normie parents alike.
A dozen subjects multiplied by a dozen years multiplied by a dozen megabytes per book - it will be less than two gigabytes. Gross. Why do you need 8 gigabytes - and all that just in primary RAM?
@@NataliaBazj I don't need that much. chrome and windows system processes are famous for taking large chunk of memory space. And because of that, I think larger RAM will perform better. they'll not have process freeze problems.
As an student assistent I can see the desaster on a daily base. Theses kids do anything but learning on the screen while they pretend to be in School...but they are just physical into the classroom. Most of the time they play videogames on their Ipads.
Which rarely happens because teachers can see what students do on the computer 24/7 and can look at the history of what they did and they can X out of tabs
I have a collection of 1950’s schoolbooks. They are so beautiful (the endpaper illustrations!) and well written. Even the monotone illustrations are captivating. A small, chunky size that feels good in the hand. They are all together focusing and absorbing. No screen can replace all that. We’ve really lost something & I think it shows.
I have taught digitally and with paper. Paper provides less distractions. The act of writing is twice as effective as the act of typing in helping student learn and remeber information. Paper and computers both have advantages. Teachers can use both simoltaniously for the best instructional outcomes.
@@Parritz That does not mean that using screens is a good idea. It only means that governments aren’t prepared to invest properly in the real needs of students.
I keep hearing teachers say they are quitting due to students' bad behavior, lack of attention, etc. Then the schools stick them in front of screens the whole day. Sounds like the kids (and the teachers) are being set up to fail.
Excellent! Love it! The young kids NEED to read, need to analyze and comprehend the words, visualize in their minds, touch and turn the pages, use manipulatives in learning. The eyesight is damaged by staring all the time at a screen. Eyes need to adjust from light to dark, far to near, to use peripheral vision, discern fine variations in color and design. That is pathetic, a fourth grader who has trouble writing. Unless it’s from some other cause like cerebral palsy or an injury, that school is to blame. Fortunately, it’s not too late to improve. I’m a retired teacher of grades K-2, mostly grade 1, in the US. I was fortunate to work in a private school where teachers were fairly free to teach as they saw fit. The rule in my class was virtually no screens. Student phones remained turned off in a rack, just like shown. The only screen was the computer projected onto the smart board. The computer was on my desk. Computer learning was for reinforcement AFTER we’d learned from the books and by teacher guided hands-on and written lessons. Let the screens not be the mainstay until the upper grades of high school, by which time technology should be a regular subject. Computer proficiency is pretty much a “must have” skill, no matter what a young person chooses to do upon graduation, whether that be on to university and advanced degrees for a profession, college for business, or as a brick layer, forklift operator in a warehouse, or stay at home mom/dad homemaker.
We used the computer lab almost every day for about 1 period. Every class had a textbook though, and lesions were done on overhead projectors so teachers and kids could write on the slides or create one on the fly
Here in Canada we expect kids to try to eat their lunch while watching tv. My step daughter use to come home with a full lunch everyday because she said she was distracted by the tv. We don’t even have these bad habits at home why is the education system trying to put our kids in front of screens constantly? How about let them socialize while eating lunch.
Mind control. Constantly use of screen disconnect people from nature, themselves and reality. People who are heavily depended on screen for dopamine hit/comfort/self-sooth are more easily manipulated by suggested ideas from ads, social media, and other tv programs.
I recently started volunteering in an elementary school program and can absolutely understand why teachers would want to put on a movie at lunch to shut them up for an hour. Not saying I agree with that idea, but the behaviour is soo much worse than I remember from my school days.
I grew up in the advent of computers in Silicon Valley. Did you know that Zuckerburg’s kids don’t even go to schools that allow screen time before middle school? Waldorf, Montessori, and Nueva style schools… nature based or look at Elon Musk’s old homeschool, grown to include his employees’ children. If people whose lives and careers are built on tech encourage their children to avoid it or limit it then there is a reason. Right?
Yes.... too much screen time in classrooms. Just because a student (or anyone) is staring at a computer screen does not mean they are engaged in any kind of learning or critical thinking. There is an addictive element to the overuse of screens.
The minister of education in Sweden who decided this (Lotta Edholm - Liberals) is a boardmember of the 'Tellus group' who is an investment company of teaching materials like textbooks. I wonder why she suddenly decided that we need to spend millions on books...
@@owindustry "books are outdated inventions in this day and age" Not really sure what you mean, if you mean physical books then sure, but plenty of people still use eReaders and read daily.
@@fargoth391 yes of course I meant "physical books" those are unnecessary anymore because We can read ebooks using ereaders or laptops instead without sacrificing any trees and spaces.
Books are reliable. And great as a backup, they are also harder to be changed so what is written stay written. Physical books are essential. But ebooks should be used in schools just because these type of books are used just for one year.
When I was at university we didn’t have computers. Engineering courses required showing a knowledge of all the steps to solving problems. Getting the right answer but not being able to show the correct solution meant you got zero points. It teaches critical thinking that you can apply to other problems.
And whats to happen to our children when the whole world shuts off the internet phone lines... its horrible what I have seen my kids exposed to in public schools here in the USA. Now I wanna move to Sweden 😂 glad this was posted even if it set off alarm bells in my brain. It seems like a smaller classroom setting with two teachers.. amazing.
In the US, public ed anyway, it will be which costs the district less: purchasing over priced single use workbooks or overpriced contracted software. Is it about the kids? Not so much…
One thing’s certain, society used to ensure proper sitting posture in school. From an ergonomic assessment’s perspective, these girls are going to have major long-term issues if our schools don’t start ensuring their laptops, desks, and chairs are at the proper height and get proper posture back asap!❤
Agree, we need to reduce gadgets and screen time and too much digital world interactions. This is necessary for a healthy lifestyle for kids and adults. Plus reducing gadgets helps combatting climate change.
Well said. It's very much about evolution and how we got the brains we got. Serious educators and parents have learned about this and understand these matters.
I am 16 and I rarely use a computer for school until the pandemic hit. After that, I went back to physical handouts and assignments for a year. After that, I got my personal laptop and took the family tablet for myself, I started digitalizing most of my stuff as much as possible but I soon realized that I read and understand better when they are printed. I was puzzled as to why this was the case until I found that there was a scientific evidence proving it. Still, I appreciate the convenience of being able to study anywhere and annotate slides and books easily but when it comes to attending classes, I still think sticking with paper is the way to go. It is funny to see that screens still cannot fully replace printouts just yet, which is a bummer.
I actually went to school at the beginning of the handheld calculator era…they were forbidden to use in the class, so I am in that way a dinosaur, however even in my dotage and can still add, subtract, multiply, divide and figure out percentages in my head…..
I did this in Tom Cormen's intro to CS course in 1996, it was absolutely the best way to step away from the compiler and not rely on trial and error debugging.
I 100% agree. When I was a kid I didn’t use the computers only for school work but as I got older I got a phone but rarely used it in class because Chromebooks which we also used for work.
In Malaysia, some schools are distributing tablets to the students as a way to address the problem of heavy school bag which forced the students to carry. Now everything has done online.
you mean for textbook? Oh I remember my bag always koyak😅 because it is too heavy.. maybe our government can provide lockers for every kid with password instead of keys. I am against digital for elementary school.
@@nisakahar in china there are no lockers provided to the students but their text book always kept inside their desk compartment with no lock. So those books would be kept there after the class dismiss. This is also a method of lessen the school text book burden
@@kawings I don't think Malaysian children can do that. Some naughty children would destroy or hide the books. Trust me I lose books in school before after I forgot to bring it home. That why I suggested locker.🤭
"The more freedom of choices for us are far more better for the next generation we all know those what really works." "Please don't use your calculator during the exam; you may use it after the exam is finished. Calculators can be used to check and find the right answers later, and never cheat on the exam or look at someone's test paper. Anyone who is found cheating or looking at someone's test paper will surely fail this subject." • The Professor "A combination of the real coins and real money should not be taken away to make it all digital for you know already the answer why? it is so important of choice making more choices." ❤❤❤😊😊😊🙏🙏🙏 "A truly a remarkable way of learning the bright people of tomorrow."
Same kid who said he struggled with writing. My spontaneous guess would be that he’s neurodivergent, likely adhd. If you know about the issues facing these kids you could understand why he was allowed to sit on the desk, by himself (unlike other kids) at the very front of the classroom.
as a swede and somone who graduated grade school or highschool( in american terms) like a couple weeks ago.. i definetly like how much easier it is to keep track of things on a computer but after typing so much, i feel like my ability to physically write on paper or do something from a text book is lack luster compared to the people older than me.
We have a child in a middle school in the US. I wish they would switch to math books instead of online assignments and sheets of paper in their binders. Firstly, all materials are in one place . Sheets of paper get lost or forgotten. Secondly, the online part has only assignments. There is no explanation of the material. The math book would have an explanation of the material and practice assignments. We, as parents, can read and explain to kids if they didn’t understand everything. We, personally, have a situation when kids are beings tough differently than we were many years ago. My explanation just confuses our kid more.
@Mr.Coffee576 the teacher explains in class. And, if a kid understood it well, lucky kid. If a kid is a bit confused and needs extra help, this kid is on his own, or he and his parents are on their own.
I'm from Uruguay and as a visual comunication desingner student, I think the main problem is that teachers don't know how to take advantage of digital tools. They could make videos and presentarions that support and explain what they said in class so the kids can try to understand the topic again at home and then have a space to ask questions where the teacher and the other students can see them and answer them. Another tool is record lessons so that students can watch them again when studing. I had a very good experience and a very bad expirience at university when the pandemic made us have only digital lessons, it depends a lot on the teacher. I believe that if we want digital tools to be used in classes we need someone wjo helps the teacher learn how to use them correctly. Also I think non digital tools are great too! Writing what I learn and try to explain it on a paper is a great excersise in my experience and helps you to know if you really understood the topic, and also helps me to memorize new words. I think the best education will be the one that can take advantage of all the tools we have. Sorry for possible English mistakes! It's not my first language :)
This clip reminds me of the “one-size-fits-all” approach to education, particularly in cash-strapped public schools, and I absolutely dislike it. While I’m sure most students would benefit from some or little screen exposure, this is definitely not the case for one of my children. She was failing in the first few grades of primary school but turned around and became a high achiever starting in the third grade. The difference? The school started using laptops. It seems my daughter had an undiagnosed learning disability, dysgraphia. Typing out her schoolwork allows her concentrate more on what she wants to say instead of forming her letters by hand. Spelling is still an issue (if she’s denied access to spell check software). I hope Sweden has the wisdom to examine the needs of each individual student, and let those who could benefit, keep the technology in front of them.
Look at how Swedish kids play during recess, they climb everywhere. Unlike American kids, their recess is either cancelled or over regulated. No running allowed on some school recess yard in the US, because the lawyers there own you.
I was shocked when they said that that was their first book in school. I think it makes obvious sense that kids learn basic skills & knowledge through analog means until maybe middle school.
Why does it have to be all-or-nothing? We homeschool and do some things on computers but other things in books with pen and paper. It works well. I cannot imagine raising a child in this era who couldn't type or navigate a computer. I also cannot imagine raising a child who is unfamiliar with books and handwriting - both manuscript and cursive. It doesn't have to be either/or. Both/and works well.
As a highschooler who brought several kilograms of printed books, I thought it is better for your back to digitalize. I didn't know that it will affect literacy and health negatively.
They where sliding down in the snow... As a Swede when you wanted to slide in the snow you would get the biggest scolding of your life if you did it without a helmet.
The lights from the constant use of my phone as an adult is already giving me issues in my vision talk less of children looking into laptop screens all through school. They’ll get a lot more vision issues and not to mention the distractions that comes with computers like games and pornography
If i were a teacher i would just simply shut down electricy from time to time for children to dive in history in the past of children who'd been working for 8 hours at least and then read books as a privilege. Being grateful for what you have is very important for children.
Here's why I disagree: 1. You need proper lighting, temperature regulation, sometimes use of smartboards, projectors and other utilities and aids in school. It's no longer the middle ages, we can do better. By assuming the problem can be solved with one push of a button you're bellitling it's magnitude and severity. 2. You're coming from the perspective that technology is a luxury, which sends the message that it's better than the traditional means. But here the opposite message is necessary, that pen and paper can be better and more impactful than technology. After all, it can only be useful to those who know how to use it, and young impressionable children aren't quite there yet.
My wife teaches animation at a university and finds that students consistently do other things other than school assignments and anything related to class. They’re literally doing this in front of her and in many ways she has no ability to enforce it due to bad university policies and the fact that they all have their phones too. Obviously teaching good habits and enforcing of rules is also important but I think it would be better to force students to turn their phones in or actually have a 3 strikes rule where they basically get counted as absent if using their devices. …..but of course this also gets complicated because then these students will go to their school DEI coordinator or whatever and then the professor will receive some form of message asking for the teacher to be lenient on the student because they have some kind of psychological issues. It’s ridiculous.
Just because the authors/programmers of the digital tools do not know how to create a good digital experiences, does not mean that paper books are superior. Noone says that the computer have to use text-2-speech and read the assignment out loud, if that is seen as problem.
Can anyone explain the backstory of this for me? Did there use to be some kind of policy to stop using textbooks and use digital devices instead before this “shifting back to the basics” thing?
You're absolutely right. Kids don't need to learn coding. People making this ridiculous comment are living in the past. AI is already changing all that completely. AI will do the coding. Humans need to be able to do the real thinking.
Sure technology keep growing exponentially but as humans we can't disconnect from natural world because we are far behind form evolution that lives with technology.more you disconnect from natural world and natural emotions more you feel lonely and sad and frustrated.
Usually teachers are pretty left lean. Now reading books, however, seems to be agreed both by the teachers and the conservative government, this just shows how correct it is to delay kids from accessing digital equipment. Lucky enough, left as it is, we here in Canada, still don't have this problem. I know my 9 year old is having some access in her classroom to digital devices, yet back in 2022 when she first arrived from China, she brings home a book each night for me to read together with her. That helped her quite a lot adapting to the English environment. Paper books are great!
Im a freshmen in college who graduated from an american high school in 2023, screens werent as popular for assignments until covid was rampant in 2020. Then every single teacher and school i knew of threw books and physical paper out the window. It became all computerized 😂 the teachers didnt even have to teach
This is not a “Trend,” rather we will see this globally. While computers, as computers, can help in learning, computers are the beginning and the end to learning.
When books aren’t overpriced it’s a good investment but the U.S. is dominate by publishing companies that charge outlandish prices for college textbook that are used maybe 10 times?
Good. Digitalization has decimated school scores in Finland, because "we have to innovate for the sake of innovation".. Reading comprehension and writing are both in decline. Good to see that Sweden is waking up, hope Finland can follow soon..
I was listening to a guy complaining recently about how inner city public schools in usa dont have ipads for every student and how this inequality of tech access it a big problem in our system. NOBODY had ipads or computers in a classroom that long ago. Mark Zuckerberg didn't grow up with an iPad as his classroom tool.
I wonder if it was non-educators (parents) pushing for computers in the classroom in the first place. Or school boards trying to attract parents to their private schools?
I agree with that teacher, a combination would be the best approach, much like how TV didn't kill radio, computers won't kill books. However, as much as reading and writing are important, computers are here to stay, and digital literacy is also important. I don't agree with this idea that younger students shouldn't be using "screens", they need to become familiar with them. It's an opportune time to teach them about a healthy approach to using digital technology. I think it would be optimal to give students both tools, and regularly let them choose what works best for them.
I graduated highschool in America in 2010. Occasionally we would go to the computer lab, but still did all of our assignments with pencil and paper. I had no idea how much school has changed since then.
So has the whole world. Most office jobs have us looking at screens all day.
This video is an exaggeration. I’m a teacher and I assure you we still use textbooks. However, I still agree screens are the future. Denying this is like saying “Oh, the internet is just a fad!” Screens are here to stay. They aren’t going anywhere.
@@wackyruss Agree, heck. With the AR/VR tech steadily developing and becoming smaller, cheaper and more useful. Next thing you know everyone is wearing VR/AR glasses the size of normal glasses. Nonstop.
@@xander9460 I actually think that in the far future we will MERGE with our tech- becoming some kind of Cyborgs. It’s inevitable. Also AI will become omnipresent like some sort or ghost in the machine that assists us with daily life- just as long as AI doesn’t turn evil. Everyone will have a personal AI Robot servant or something. Eventually we will build a Dyson Sphere around our Sun to harvest 100% of its power and move to a Type I civilization on the Kardeshev Scale. Doing everything on laptops is just the beginning.
I've recently gotten back to reading books like I did as a child as I realized I spend too much time looking at screens as an adult.
"Now we have to read ourselves. Before the computer read the exercise for us". I think this tells you everything.
Exactly
I'm no luddite, I'm a software engineer who loves technology but I will say screens are BAD for learning not because they emit light but because 99% of screens I've encountered since 2010 can play games, go online, browse arbitrary websites and basically allow you to be 100% unfocused. When I was in school textbooks kept you focused, perhaps you'd read the wrong page here and there but overall you'd be following the material you needed to understand. Computer class was the ONLY class I didn't focus in and instead spent it playing video and learning to program for my side business (valuable, but only because it was in computer class). I support a move away from screens for children.
Не сфокусирован ты можешь разве что из за себя быть. Что ты хочешь в интернет выйти, а не материал искать
You've never been to the back of a classroom and it shows
@@csanadtemesvari9251 You’ve never tried to teach a class of 30 kids who have access to cell phones and it shows.
All of what you described is an underfunded IT department issue and not a screen issue.
@@csanadtemesvari9251 Thats probably because he wasnt the ADHD kid of his class.
0:24
Teacher: Today you're getting your first real math book. Cool, no?
Kids: *staring in horror*
crazy
That was the moment that I watch this video. Also the same horror when the kids are told to write essays without auto spell check and grammar suggestion.
@@maestrovso ... thank God I'm not like them
lol
though realistically you'd probably be an adult before getting a real math book
We can have 35-40 students to one teacher in a classroom in the US. Here it looks like about 15 students with 2 teachers. No wonder our public school are failing.
That's pretty much the norm in Sweden too, at least in the major cities. Lövestad is a tiny town with less than 2k people in total.
in Sweden a common size of class is about 25 students each teacher
obv way better than 35 to 40 on one teacher lmao
When I was in highschool we were 27 students in one class
but school is failing here too, tho due to very different reasons
@@oaksnice not at all.
"En typisk undervisningsgrupp i Sverige 2023 har 25 elever, om man slår ihop alla skolformer från förskoleklass till kommunal vuxenutbildning. Det visar sammanställningen av data från Sveriges Lärare"
@@Nobody-iy6tm hmmmm, studies made by education institutions would like to disagree with your statement
@@unoki99 Om man slår ihop precis allting blir det såklart färre. Därför jag skrev "åtminstone större städer". USA har inte heller speciellt många per klass om man tar genomsnitt över hela landet.
"The typical class size in US public schools is 16-23 students. In the academic year 2020-2021, the mean class size was 18.3 students, a slight decrease from the 2017-2018 average of 19.6 students. These figures represent the mean across both primary and secondary education. "
Smart. Technology should only be used when it's actually helpful.
Exactly. Humans are supposed to use technology. Not technology uses Humans.
@@tw8464Don't think we are *supposed* to use it.
what?@@TedEhioghae
@@TorenMire27 Humans have been living on Earth without technology.
False. People have been using technology fro thousands of years. Also, I never said they didn't.@@TedEhioghae
whoever made the decision to use laptops to teach math was never a math teacher or didn't know any math.
Our kids grew up with textbooks and workbooks. I've read what teachers have been saying about digitization and the problems with it. The motivation on digital is to save money and space because textbooks are expensive, have to be stored and there is some amount of loss. We had a home library of about 3,000 books and we took our kids to the library every week. I used to buy digital books but I've gone back to physical books because I tend to read books with fewer distractions despite the higher convenience factor of digital.
So glad to read your comment! Amen! 💕
Schools need to use both.
@@chuckchan4127 The importance of technology today is undeniable, however, when it comes to making reading a hobbies, physical books are definitely more beneficial to our eyes, intelligence and concentration.
As a teacher, I agree. While computers are super useful, they have a ton of downsides, especially with younger kids. If nothing else, I have seen the incrediable decline in older kids knowing how to write on paper clearly
I'm sorry to disagree. I understood that children needs guidance and teachers are essential for human education. And to guide those children not to be influence thru those so called downsides "they need to be educated". It is much faster to learn words and it's meaning in new technology unlike to search in dictionary. they don't have examples, sounds (pronunciation) or synonyms and antonyms either. Not to mention the expenses of buying books and materials for manual education. And yeah the pain and struggle to write down your thoughts while your handwriting is so unreadable that people around you (students and teachers) laugh at you like are a disabled person (technically, there's a such thing called dyslexia but not too many people or teachers know that) as if everyone has a good handwriting. so for that trauma I say no thank you for manual education.
What a usuful skill to have to compete with the AI corporate world in 2024! - (said no one ever)
They also have downsides to older people like myself where it offers instant gratification.
@@davidmichael3614 Please re read my comment. I just said that writing cursive is a pretty much useless skill in today's world.
@@humuki2693 ah sumimasen! I thought you are just being sarcastic.
I remember when going to computer lab in my school was such a big event. I appreciate that my school still use book and pen
I am glad things are getting back to the way it was before. Children in Norway are having ipads instead of real books and so many have terrible hand writing. There has been a discussion about it lately and I think they are changing things.
Hand writing? Useful for personal letters and signing documents.
I have terrible hand writing and make 6 figure salary.
@@chuckchan4127most kids won’t grow up to make 6 figures, writing will not go anywhere and if the grid ever goes out I guess you’re going to need to write in print.
My recent experience is that many teenagers these days can't hand write anything - they themselves can't read their own writing. On top of that, they can't do simple arithmetic. And some can't spell. It's scary when they can't do basic things.
@@What.s_the_Truth That's ridiculous. As a teenager myself I don't know anybody who can't properly write, or do simple math, or spell. Most kids at my high school are taking lots of advanced classes that you yourself would probably have rough time with. Like AP Calculus for example. We do all our math on paper, write pages of essays every week on paper, and lots more assignments on paper.
Very good!
I'm a software engineer and entirely oppose computers in elementary school. They do not make students learn better.
Computers in schools are a result of corporations looking for new sources of income. Disguised as wanting to improve education.
For older students it's fine, but we don't need teachers teaching kids how to use computers. Kids can learn that on their own through experimentation, typically better than an average teacher could teach it.
You're right
@tw8464 He's wrong. I'm a IT professional who actually taught at a school. He literally is wrong on every point.
You want better learning environments? Fund it, both the teachers AND the IT staff AND the technology provided to students.
And for God's sake get rid of worksheets!
@73andy73 lmao, one of the most cringe posts I've seen.
Ironically, I left because of the trash wages so at least you got that right. Even a clock with dogshit is right twice a day.
The "screen economy" has serious costs especially to young children. All these young kids were handed screens despite NO ONE KNEW the impact on brain development kids being on these screens 24/7 at home and school and everywhere in between would have on them. The perverse incentives of the rotten corrupt "screen economy" make the "platform design" games and algorithms incredibly addictive very similar to how tobacco companies operated. That's not even getting into the ethics and consequences of this colossal theft of human beings private property their data, theft of a person's personal data from birth to death, from children who can't consent, that constitutes their lives and the government letting corporations do anything under the sun with the stolen data to no limits. There is absolutely nothing backing up this idea that "students learn better" using screens. But there is a big industry of "online learning" and pay to get "access" to "learning" using "codes." The corporations knew the "problem" with books once you buy the book you don't have to keep paying for "access."
@@chuckchan4127 So, you have nothing of value to contribute. Only insults and baseless assertions. How unsurprising.
I did my whole high school online. I graduated from virtual school in 2004. I literally only used the computer for online lectures and typing up my work. I spent about 2 hours a day on the computer. I was self motivated enough to get my work done and have the rest of the day to go to the gym and work part time. They also offered optional classes in person. It was limited so I had a semester in a public high school so that I could experience the regular school life again but decided to finish my studies at home instead. I got used to learning on my own and having lots of free time. 8 hours of classes seemed like a waste of time for me. But online learning isn’t for everyone.
Nice way worded
You're missing one thing here; out of these 6-8 hours in school there are quite a few hours spent in socializing - with friends from the same class and also with other pupils younger and older ones which adds a lot to kids confidence and builds communication skills for life, they are doing PE few times a week depending on age , playing team sports or just running and exercising, eating with the school mates and learning how to behave at meal times. Learning online does not provide any of these activities
I think the issue is also that these children started using the computer while they were still learning the basics, like writing, grammar ect.
It’s harder to practice writing with a pen or grammar on a computer that automatically corrects most of this.
It’s should probably only be used for older students, where the focus lies on more complex subjects.
@@julchensweet2538 Absolutely! But I also see this problem with children in public middle school. I live in Canada. They don’t have the reading and writing skills that they should have at their age. Same with math. I give my daughter extra math at home and she reads novels whereas her peers do not. Most of the students in her school aren’t learning traditional math and have poor grammar and spelling. This is another issue with using too much technology at home and at school. And also the way the education system is moving away from traditional methods.
Did u say 2004, no social media, hardly any RUclips etc. Oh plz.
I hated it. It’s so much harder to learn on technology. It also makes kids more depressed,anxious and worse behavior.
Yep! There is plenty of research that proof this. All the tech CEOs have said that they didn't allow their own children to use ipads.
We have come full circle.
Keep qualified teacher-librarians and well-stocked libraries in our schools!
That's excellent! Going back to our roots. Too much computer time doesn't do anyone any good.
You used a computer or phone to watch this video and also to type this response…
@@wackyruss and most office jobs have us staring at screens all day.
@@jgp7414 Yep! That’s the reality of the 21st Century.
@@wackyrussthat's not good for health, don't say just wear glasses after getting eye problems.
@@mysteriouscreature6249 If you read a book for too long you can also hurt your eyes. Focusing on tiny letters on a book page is unnatural as well.
I had access to a computer when I was in my teens and to a cellphone (not a smart one) till my first year of university, even without access to internet till I was a young adult I got addicted to screens, my concentration has been affected and now I'm working towards recover my concentration and increase my attention span before getting bored. Kids nowadays spend way too much time using screens instead of living in the real word, if we adults get so hooked up on screens what could happen with kids who are still developing their brains.
2:10 The conservatives don't want a centralized school system, it was the conservative parties that decentralized the schools to begin with. Sweden have seen a big dip in grades since then.
I was wondering...politics always has a big impact on these things and it was so glossed over here.
The conservatives are the type of party to want to stop schools from using digital technology. and to make sure that happens, they would probably want a centralized school system
What are you talking about? It was the Social Democrats who decentralized the schools, not the conservatives
It looks like it was both. It was initially presented by social democrats, but was walked farther and farther by a _"non-socialist coalition government"._
My source is Lisbeth Lundahl her study in _Revue internationale d’éducation de Sèvres,_ _"Swedish education reform: High ambitions and troubling results"_
But then I'm not Swedish, so I'm open to corrections if her study is flawed.
@@MsNikeNike It was Carl Bildt (conservative) 1991 & 1993 that started the decentralization.
in my old school we only used computers once a week but here in my new school we need ipads for every class and everyone here is so distracted now i swear… doesn’t help that we use them for 8 hours a day…
I think there were some studies proving that our memory works better with reading from paper than screen rather and with handwriting than typing. I don’t have any links though, but this is also what I observe with my own experience.
Maybe its because handwriting and reading involve more with physics such as touch, focus, aim etc. which mean good for brain i guess.. ??
I definitely agree with that.
A study would be nice, but just from experience it's true
I have heard that about writing at least because you use more parts of your brain writing on paper and that makes it easier to remember
That's true and beneficial for children who are very young, but the purpose of taking notes isn't to remember on the spot. It's to review. For me, digital just seems so much easier to review. Papers have finite sizes, erasing is terrible, and you can read clear text.
"We have to read ourselves...."
"I have trouble writing..."
Well then its good that they read and write themselves. The entire point of school is practice when you don't know something well
The brighter path is taken here by Sweden.
On a lighter note, students complaining of a slow-freezing system makes for a thought- are the poor things handed underpowered and overpriced Intel-based systems!
The computers froze, not doing complex 3D modeling but doing grade school math exercises? Highly sus. As the kids say. Or rather as the kids said a year and a half ago.
I have one of the newer school computers and they still struggle to have more than 2 apps on at the same time
No one said sus when the computer froze because that's kinda expected from a computer that only has like 1 GB of ram@@ColdHawk
Probably Chromebooks.
Ah, Celerons. How I wish you were never invented.
After living in Sweden for 3 years, I will say that some of the parents are pretty lazy and often give their toddlers ipads or phones to keep them busy while the parents continue to live out their social lives.
The amount of Swedish kids and young adults that wear glasses is quite noticable as well.
that's common in most western countries tho, not just sweden
@@oscarhagman8247 Having lived and worked in 6 'western countries', Sweden is winning at the moment.
@@oscarhagman8247it's all over the world.... Parents who don't want to spend time with their children give them devices to keep them busy.
The phenomenon of glasses and first and second-world countries has been studied to death and there were so many theories, but hardly anyone suggested it was screens as that's only a very new addition and children's sight has been getting worse and worse for 100 years now. The world is gradually becoming shortsighted and literally every generation has noticed the next needing more glasses. Look it up.
The reason is the lack of light going into the child's eye while it's developing. (obviously a screen is bright, but have you ever looked at your phone outside, and you can bearly see it. But it's not enough apparently.)
Reading or the lack of the eye focusing on objects further away was the main theory for decades, but in fact, it was being inside in low light, relative to outdoor areas. (such as mandatory schooling in the last century)
Also that teacher sounds ridiculous saying that the children apparently have less of a vocabulary reading on a different media. Reading is reading and the more you read the more words you learn. Books don't have a wider vocabulary than the internet.
@@Eoin-B
That entire message could have been shorter (using the skill of summarizing), as well as polite by saying: Here is some research that sheds light on the topic.
The No Tech approach is what makes the Waldorf private schools here in the U.S. so attractive to Silicon Valley tech gurus AND us normie parents alike.
their laptops freezed again because manufacturer didn't give enough RAM (8GB should be standard) to their laptops. DELL is ripping off kids.
if i were to guess they probably have poopy chrome books or some laptop with a single processor and low ghz. XD
A dozen subjects multiplied by a dozen years multiplied by a dozen megabytes per book - it will be less than two gigabytes. Gross.
Why do you need 8 gigabytes - and all that just in primary RAM?
@@NataliaBazj I don't need that much. chrome and windows system processes are famous for taking large chunk of memory space. And because of that, I think larger RAM will perform better. they'll not have process freeze problems.
Agreed
If there were no RAM, maybe kids would do some work for a change. Dell is ripping off the people's tax money...not kids :/
As an student assistent I can see the desaster on a daily base.
Theses kids do anything but learning on the screen while they pretend to be in School...but they are just physical into the classroom.
Most of the time they play videogames on their Ipads.
You're absolutely right
The "screen economy" is a Total Idiocracy
Such as spelling...
Which rarely happens because teachers can see what students do on the computer 24/7 and can look at the history of what they did and they can X out of tabs
@@gamingwitharlen2267 not in the german reality . There they only see the back of an Ipad
I have a collection of 1950’s schoolbooks. They are so beautiful (the endpaper illustrations!) and well written. Even the monotone illustrations are captivating. A small, chunky size that feels good in the hand. They are all together focusing and absorbing. No screen can replace all that. We’ve really lost something & I think it shows.
I'm curious how yours books look like ;)
I have taught digitally and with paper. Paper provides less distractions. The act of writing is twice as effective as the act of typing in helping student learn and remeber information. Paper and computers both have advantages. Teachers can use both simoltaniously for the best instructional outcomes.
Just remember that 95% of your students never cared about your classes
Good. It’s about time someone finally put an end to this screen madness in schools.
It's not just in schools.... You're on one now, aren't you?
@@Freiheit1232 Big difference in adults and 8 or 10-year-olds!
@@Parritz That does not mean that using screens is a good idea. It only means that governments aren’t prepared to invest properly in the real needs of students.
I keep hearing teachers say they are quitting due to students' bad behavior, lack of attention, etc. Then the schools stick them in front of screens the whole day. Sounds like the kids (and the teachers) are being set up to fail.
Excellent! Love it! The young kids NEED to read, need to analyze and comprehend the words, visualize in their minds, touch and turn the pages, use manipulatives in learning. The eyesight is damaged by staring all the time at a screen. Eyes need to adjust from light to dark, far to near, to use peripheral vision, discern fine variations in color and design. That is pathetic, a fourth grader who has trouble writing. Unless it’s from some other cause like cerebral palsy or an injury, that school is to blame. Fortunately, it’s not too late to improve. I’m a retired teacher of grades K-2, mostly grade 1, in the US. I was fortunate to work in a private school where teachers were fairly free to teach as they saw fit. The rule in my class was virtually no screens. Student phones remained turned off in a rack, just like shown. The only screen was the computer projected onto the smart board. The computer was on my desk. Computer learning was for reinforcement AFTER we’d learned from the books and by teacher guided hands-on and written lessons. Let the screens not be the mainstay until the upper grades of high school, by which time technology should be a regular subject. Computer proficiency is pretty much a “must have” skill, no matter what a young person chooses to do upon graduation, whether that be on to university and advanced degrees for a profession, college for business, or as a brick layer, forklift operator in a warehouse, or stay at home mom/dad homemaker.
We used the computer lab almost every day for about 1 period. Every class had a textbook though, and lesions were done on overhead projectors so teachers and kids could write on the slides or create one on the fly
Here in Canada we expect kids to try to eat their lunch while watching tv. My step daughter use to come home with a full lunch everyday because she said she was distracted by the tv. We don’t even have these bad habits at home why is the education system trying to put our kids in front of screens constantly? How about let them socialize while eating lunch.
Mind control. Constantly use of screen disconnect people from nature, themselves and reality. People who are heavily depended on screen for dopamine hit/comfort/self-sooth are more easily manipulated by suggested ideas from ads, social media, and other tv programs.
I recently started volunteering in an elementary school program and can absolutely understand why teachers would want to put on a movie at lunch to shut them up for an hour. Not saying I agree with that idea, but the behaviour is soo much worse than I remember from my school days.
What province are you from?
I grew up in the advent of computers in Silicon Valley. Did you know that Zuckerburg’s kids don’t even go to schools that allow screen time before middle school? Waldorf, Montessori, and Nueva style schools… nature based or look at Elon Musk’s old homeschool, grown to include his employees’ children.
If people whose lives and careers are built on tech encourage their children to avoid it or limit it then there is a reason. Right?
Yes.... too much screen time in classrooms. Just because a student (or anyone) is staring at a computer screen does not mean they are engaged in any kind of learning or critical thinking. There is an addictive element to the overuse of screens.
The minister of education in Sweden who decided this (Lotta Edholm - Liberals) is a boardmember of the 'Tellus group' who is an investment company of teaching materials like textbooks.
I wonder why she suddenly decided that we need to spend millions on books...
Contrary to this new policy; kids should even be taught how to code and computer languages because books are outdated inventions in this day and age.
@@owindustry "books are outdated inventions in this day and age" Not really sure what you mean, if you mean physical books then sure, but plenty of people still use eReaders and read daily.
@@fargoth391 yes of course I meant "physical books" those are unnecessary anymore because We can read ebooks using ereaders or laptops instead without sacrificing any trees and spaces.
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Books are reliable. And great as a backup, they are also harder to be changed so what is written stay written. Physical books are essential. But ebooks should be used in schools just because these type of books are used just for one year.
After COVID and over a year of online only classes…. Really? Not questioning?
When I was at university we didn’t have computers. Engineering courses required showing a knowledge of all the steps to solving problems. Getting the right answer but not being able to show the correct solution meant you got zero points. It teaches critical thinking that you can apply to other problems.
And whats to happen to our children when the whole world shuts off the internet phone lines... its horrible what I have seen my kids exposed to in public schools here in the USA. Now I wanna move to Sweden
😂 glad this was posted even if it set off alarm bells in my brain. It seems like a smaller classroom setting with two teachers.. amazing.
In the US, public ed anyway, it will be which costs the district less: purchasing over priced single use workbooks or overpriced contracted software. Is it about the kids? Not so much…
One thing’s certain, society used to ensure proper sitting posture in school. From an ergonomic assessment’s perspective, these girls are going to have major long-term issues if our schools don’t start ensuring their laptops, desks, and chairs are at the proper height and get proper posture back asap!❤
Agree, we need to reduce gadgets and screen time and too much digital world interactions. This is necessary for a healthy lifestyle for kids and adults. Plus reducing gadgets helps combatting climate change.
It is very important for the Brain to write by hand also
Well said. It's very much about evolution and how we got the brains we got. Serious educators and parents have learned about this and understand these matters.
Just handing toddlers screens and through entire childhood constantly screen time just doesn't cut it and is actually very harmful.
I graduated in 22 we didn’t use computers full time until high-school. I didn’t realize how impactful this could be to younger students.
I am in Canada and public schools dont have textbooks. I moved them to a private catholic school.
I hated catholic school when I was there, but I can't deny that they taught certain subjects 10x better than public schools I went to.
Computer work is like watching television. It is a passive activity. It has it's uses, but I doubt much real learning takes place.
No it's interactive and more learning takes place. A textbook is passive
I am 16 and I rarely use a computer for school until the pandemic hit. After that, I went back to physical handouts and assignments for a year. After that, I got my personal laptop and took the family tablet for myself, I started digitalizing most of my stuff as much as possible but I soon realized that I read and understand better when they are printed. I was puzzled as to why this was the case until I found that there was a scientific evidence proving it. Still, I appreciate the convenience of being able to study anywhere and annotate slides and books easily but when it comes to attending classes, I still think sticking with paper is the way to go. It is funny to see that screens still cannot fully replace printouts just yet, which is a bummer.
My daughter had what the optometrist called jewelers eye she might have also had too much screen time hoping to correct it
Good ! When our school brought laptops in grades plummeted
It is important that the children read a book. Since the corona in germany they read much more worser.
Same in Canada 🇨🇦, children can barely read and write. They are afraid of math. Every time they fund raise is to buy more screens for the school!
A computer can be a useful tool!
Internet and computer must not be aloud in the schools.
I actually went to school at the beginning of the handheld calculator era…they were forbidden to use in the class, so I am in that way a dinosaur, however even in my dotage and can still add, subtract, multiply, divide and figure out percentages in my head…..
Meanwhile in Eastern Europe: Today we are writing C++ code on paper…
This is so stereotypical and untrue.
Had to do that as well in high school in America around 2010
I did this in Tom Cormen's intro to CS course in 1996, it was absolutely the best way to step away from the compiler and not rely on trial and error debugging.
In Asia and we do the same even in college...
@@dmitryivanov9026 Is this true tho?
I 100% agree. When I was a kid I didn’t use the computers only for school work but as I got older I got a phone but rarely used it in class because Chromebooks which we also used for work.
In Malaysia, some schools are distributing tablets to the students as a way to address the problem of heavy school bag which forced the students to carry. Now everything has done online.
you mean for textbook? Oh I remember my bag always koyak😅 because it is too heavy.. maybe our government can provide lockers for every kid with password instead of keys. I am against digital for elementary school.
@@nisakahar in china there are no lockers provided to the students but their text book always kept inside their desk compartment with no lock. So those books would be kept there after the class dismiss. This is also a method of lessen the school text book burden
@@kawings I don't think Malaysian children can do that. Some naughty children would destroy or hide the books. Trust me I lose books in school before after I forgot to bring it home. That why I suggested locker.🤭
Nuvarande regeringens bästa ätgärd!
Thought this was America but it’s global at this point
"The more freedom of choices for us are far more better for the next generation we all know those what really works."
"Please don't use your calculator during the exam; you may use it after the exam is finished. Calculators can be used to check and find the right answers later, and never cheat on the exam or look at someone's test paper. Anyone who is found cheating or looking at someone's test paper will surely fail this subject."
• The Professor
"A combination of the real coins and real money should not be taken away to make it all digital for you know already the answer why? it is so important of choice making more choices."
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"A truly a remarkable way of learning the bright people of tomorrow."
0:45 why is that kid seated on the table?
Lol. You noticed that too.
Same kid who said he struggled with writing. My spontaneous guess would be that he’s neurodivergent, likely adhd. If you know about the issues facing these kids you could understand why he was allowed to sit on the desk, by himself (unlike other kids) at the very front of the classroom.
@@k.j.hulander2204 Yup you may be right. Highly possible.
as a swede and somone who graduated grade school or highschool( in american terms) like a couple weeks ago.. i definetly like how much easier it is to keep track of things on a computer but after typing so much, i feel like my ability to physically write on paper or do something from a text book is lack luster compared to the people older than me.
We have a child in a middle school in the US. I wish they would switch to math books instead of online assignments and sheets of paper in their binders.
Firstly, all materials are in one place . Sheets of paper get lost or forgotten.
Secondly, the online part has only assignments. There is no explanation of the material.
The math book would have an explanation of the material and practice assignments. We, as parents, can read and explain to kids if they didn’t understand everything. We, personally, have a situation when kids are beings tough differently than we were many years ago. My explanation just confuses our kid more.
Yes
No explanation ? How do they learn ? Or are they expected to look up the explanation online ?
@Mr.Coffee576 the teacher explains in class. And, if a kid understood it well, lucky kid. If a kid is a bit confused and needs extra help, this kid is on his own, or he and his parents are on their own.
I'm from Uruguay and as a visual comunication desingner student, I think the main problem is that teachers don't know how to take advantage of digital tools.
They could make videos and presentarions that support and explain what they said in class so the kids can try to understand the topic again at home and then have a space to ask questions where the teacher and the other students can see them and answer them. Another tool is record lessons so that students can watch them again when studing. I had a very good experience and a very bad expirience at university when the pandemic made us have only digital lessons, it depends a lot on the teacher.
I believe that if we want digital tools to be used in classes we need someone wjo helps the teacher learn how to use them correctly.
Also I think non digital tools are great too! Writing what I learn and try to explain it on a paper is a great excersise in my experience and helps you to know if you really understood the topic, and also helps me to memorize new words.
I think the best education will be the one that can take advantage of all the tools we have.
Sorry for possible English mistakes! It's not my first language :)
This was obvious. Why has it just now started to change?
During school time going to computer room was something like an event for us 😂. M happy they going back to books now. It will help the eyes 😊
This a good move...use of electronic gadgets should be controlled till the age of 15...
Uh… just try and take an iPad away from a 6 year old. I dare you!!! Just try it!!! See what happens… LOL.
theyre gonna realise reality is not 2d@@wackyruss
@@wackyruss Shouldn't have given one to them in the first place.
@@AvioftheSand You obviously don’t have kids! iPad will find its way into their hands no matter what you say.
@@wackyrussyou obviously have ipad
Since when can children sit on the table during class?
Since a while back
This clip reminds me of the “one-size-fits-all” approach to education, particularly in cash-strapped public schools, and I absolutely dislike it. While I’m sure most students would benefit from some or little screen exposure, this is definitely not the case for one of my children. She was failing in the first few grades of primary school but turned around and became a high achiever starting in the third grade. The difference? The school started using laptops. It seems my daughter had an undiagnosed learning disability, dysgraphia. Typing out her schoolwork allows her concentrate more on what she wants to say instead of forming her letters by hand. Spelling is still an issue (if she’s denied access to spell check software). I hope Sweden has the wisdom to examine the needs of each individual student, and let those who could benefit, keep the technology in front of them.
I think E-Ink is more reliable. It's distraction free and truly portable. It can be used as a book and a copybook at the same time.
Cost prohibitive. A pack of paper is what, 50 cents? Also, E-ink is more fragile than LCD or OLEDs.
Ok I take it back.@@Cobalt985
Look at how Swedish kids play during recess, they climb everywhere. Unlike American kids, their recess is either cancelled or over regulated. No running allowed on some school recess yard in the US, because the lawyers there own you.
Nailed it. Let kids play outside no screens
No running outside? Thats absolutely horrible.
I was shocked when they said that that was their first book in school. I think it makes obvious sense that kids learn basic skills & knowledge through analog means until maybe middle school.
Why does it have to be all-or-nothing? We homeschool and do some things on computers but other things in books with pen and paper. It works well. I cannot imagine raising a child in this era who couldn't type or navigate a computer. I also cannot imagine raising a child who is unfamiliar with books and handwriting - both manuscript and cursive. It doesn't have to be either/or. Both/and works well.
As a highschooler who brought several kilograms of printed books, I thought it is better for your back to digitalize. I didn't know that it will affect literacy and health negatively.
They where sliding down in the snow... As a Swede when you wanted to slide in the snow you would get the biggest scolding of your life if you did it without a helmet.
The lights from the constant use of my phone as an adult is already giving me issues in my vision talk less of children looking into laptop screens all through school. They’ll get a lot more vision issues and not to mention the distractions that comes with computers like games and pornography
If i were a teacher i would just simply shut down electricy from time to time for children to dive in history in the past of children who'd been working for 8 hours at least and then read books as a privilege.
Being grateful for what you have is very important for children.
Here's why I disagree:
1. You need proper lighting, temperature regulation, sometimes use of smartboards, projectors and other utilities and aids in school. It's no longer the middle ages, we can do better. By assuming the problem can be solved with one push of a button you're bellitling it's magnitude and severity.
2. You're coming from the perspective that technology is a luxury, which sends the message that it's better than the traditional means. But here the opposite message is necessary, that pen and paper can be better and more impactful than technology. After all, it can only be useful to those who know how to use it, and young impressionable children aren't quite there yet.
My wife teaches animation at a university and finds that students consistently do other things other than school assignments and anything related to class. They’re literally doing this in front of her and in many ways she has no ability to enforce it due to bad university policies and the fact that they all have their phones too.
Obviously teaching good habits and enforcing of rules is also important but I think it would be better to force students to turn their phones in or actually have a 3 strikes rule where they basically get counted as absent if using their devices.
…..but of course this also gets complicated because then these students will go to their school DEI coordinator or whatever and then the professor will receive some form of message asking for the teacher to be lenient on the student because they have some kind of psychological issues. It’s ridiculous.
Reading and writing by hand is so much more effective to remember the issues.
3:54, learning local geography does not seem to be the best use of this technology in this way at this time.
Smart. Hooray. Hope this sweeps the world, which is in dire need of people who can discuss, argue, and reason with clarity.
Thank you!
Yep people need to smash the screens and read more books and think more
People need to be with People much more again irl
Just because the authors/programmers of the digital tools do not know how to create a good digital experiences, does not mean that paper books are superior.
Noone says that the computer have to use text-2-speech and read the assignment out loud, if that is seen as problem.
Finally! Progress!
Sounds totally marvellous, I just hope other counties can learn from this.
Not a single immigrant/child of non European descent in the school?! Wow! That's shocking.
I love Sweden.
@@MazesSA-nk8oxSossarna är inte mycket bättre, pest eller kolera.
No more than 2 hours a week during the school week
Can anyone explain the backstory of this for me? Did there use to be some kind of policy to stop using textbooks and use digital devices instead before this “shifting back to the basics” thing?
I've been reading a lot of studies on screen time's impact on the brain, including children. If anything, this is a good initiative. 👍
Some many says coding should be taught early. Why? It's not a necessity unlike the other topics
Totally agree.
You're absolutely right. Kids don't need to learn coding. People making this ridiculous comment are living in the past. AI is already changing all that completely. AI will do the coding. Humans need to be able to do the real thinking.
@@tw8464But who do you think codes the AI?
Back to the future!
Sure technology keep growing exponentially but as humans we can't disconnect from natural world because we are far behind form evolution that lives with technology.more you disconnect from natural world and natural emotions more you feel lonely and sad and frustrated.
Nailed it.
The tyranny of the Screens is directly connected to increasing loneliness and mental illness
This is so interesting; we think tech in the classroom is this wonderful thing and we are deprived without it. This video has been eye-opening.
Usually teachers are pretty left lean. Now reading books, however, seems to be agreed both by the teachers and the conservative government, this just shows how correct it is to delay kids from accessing digital equipment.
Lucky enough, left as it is, we here in Canada, still don't have this problem. I know my 9 year old is having some access in her classroom to digital devices, yet back in 2022 when she first arrived from China, she brings home a book each night for me to read together with her. That helped her quite a lot adapting to the English environment. Paper books are great!
Im a freshmen in college who graduated from an american high school in 2023, screens werent as popular for assignments until covid was rampant in 2020. Then every single teacher and school i knew of threw books and physical paper out the window. It became all computerized 😂 the teachers didnt even have to teach
This is not a “Trend,” rather we will see this globally. While computers, as computers, can help in learning, computers are the beginning and the end to learning.
When books aren’t overpriced it’s a good investment but the U.S. is dominate by publishing companies that charge outlandish prices for college textbook that are used maybe 10 times?
Good. Digitalization has decimated school scores in Finland, because "we have to innovate for the sake of innovation".. Reading comprehension and writing are both in decline. Good to see that Sweden is waking up, hope Finland can follow soon..
yeah innovation for the sake of innovation is ironically so backwards
I was listening to a guy complaining recently about how inner city public schools in usa dont have ipads for every student and how this inequality of tech access it a big problem in our system. NOBODY had ipads or computers in a classroom that long ago. Mark Zuckerberg didn't grow up with an iPad as his classroom tool.
I wonder if it was non-educators (parents) pushing for computers in the classroom in the first place. Or school boards trying to attract parents to their private schools?
I agree with that teacher, a combination would be the best approach, much like how TV didn't kill radio, computers won't kill books. However, as much as reading and writing are important, computers are here to stay, and digital literacy is also important. I don't agree with this idea that younger students shouldn't be using "screens", they need to become familiar with them. It's an opportune time to teach them about a healthy approach to using digital technology. I think it would be optimal to give students both tools, and regularly let them choose what works best for them.