Iain Dale applauds LBC caller's 'magnificent rant' in defence of Keir Starmer
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
- Iain Dale can't help but applaud caller Jan's "magnificent rant," which features a defence of Keir Starmer and a warning about the risks of a "Trump-style" government.
Jan argues it’s too early to judge Labour’s efforts after inheriting years of Conservative mismanagement. She criticises the right-wing press for unfairly nitpicking Labour while highlighting the party’s focus on fair pay and improving living conditions.
She also highlights how Starmer is 'working to rebuild the country' after decades of neglect, while warning against the rise of far-right populism, drawing parallels to Trumpism in the US.
Jan thinks that adopting similar divisive policies in the UK would lead to increased hatred, inequality, and societal decline.
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"A Tory minister can sleep in ten different women's beds in a week. A Labour minister gets it in the neck if he looks at his neighbour's wife over the garden fence." - Clement Atlee. Still as relevant today as it was then.
@@777jxh Yes but that doesn’t it make it right with Starmer and his Labour cronies? We elected him to improve this country, the last 6 months they have systematically lied in their manifesto promises and shown blatant arrogance to the uk people on ten other reasons I’ve shown above here! Yes the tories have been apalling particularly during and since Covid but Labour are now crucifying the country with many of his policies now and the future especially taxing and the method it’s used.
Basically we need a new democracy system
and new people away from the traditional two party system and not just Reform. It needs some new idea and challengers and real thinking and not just right and left!
The London Labour rhetoric is as funny today as it was yesterday 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@777jxh Labour the people’s party😂
That’s life
@@jamjam2833 Yes they are , although the press will persuade people otherwise .
On behalf of the people of Britain.... Thank you Jan.
Not on my behalf! Jan's been on the sherry I think. What total nonsense
@steventwine8705 what's she said that's wrong?
👆🫵👌
At 1:00 I really thought she was going to say that if Jesus Christ himself would've got in as leader of the Labour party, the right-wing press would absolutely crucify him
Missed opportunity
@@Joshua_DixonThey absolutely crucified another Labour leader with the initials J C aswell...
If Jesus Christ was in the Labour Party he'd probably be expelled as an Antisemite for challenging the Pharisees.
@@michelleneeds4165 Well played 🙂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jan more of a journalist than Ian Dale!!!
More of a politician too
Dale knows the same things she does but chooses not to raise these points, like so many other owned journalists.
He tried to interrupt when he felt represented.
😂😂😂 dale is no journalist.
Prepare for reform to win next election.
Magnificent caller. Wiped the carpet with Iain Dale.
Ian Tory Dale
This lady is spot on! If Labour said they would half unemployment in 1 year. Then at the end of the year if they had reduced it by 49%, you can be sure you would see "Labour breaks halving of unemployment promise!" splashed all over the front pages.
Saw a great comment once ;
Raheem Sterling scores two goals to win the WC for England =
The Sun : "Sterling fails to score hat trick"
They have done the opposite of what they said prior to the election. Keep up.
Well they should have set it at 40% and then take the glory of over-delivering. If they fail by 1% then yes they should be slammed for that….thats their fault for setting targets wrong.
London labour spin and lies is easily digested in the so called capital!
The analysis of the asset class and the working poor was really on the money
THANK YOU, SOMEONE WITH A BRAIN IN THE UK !
Starmer just knighted Sadiq Khan final nail in labours coffin
@@marctracy758 Have a look at Boris Johnson and Liz Truss's(!) honours list first before you start spouting off
@@1porter All you have is whataboutery
If Gavin Williamson can have one ,why not Sadiq Khan? If Rees Mogg,who lied to the late Queen ,can have one ,why not Sadiq Khan?
@@marctracy758 . Did you have the same level of outrage at Michelle Mone being elevated to the peerage? Being a crypto scammer and Gulf state property developer...and major Tory Party donor, is hardly helping the general population.
I work for an 83 year old woman who is a millionaire and has TWO Porsches etc etc and was complaining she won’t get her winter allowance this year!!!
This is not right!!!
How dare these super rich pensioners demand that they get all the perks the tori’s had given them?!
I’m sick of the rich demanding socialism for them and the workhouse for us!!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬
So because you know one pensioner with 2 Porsches, you assume all pensioners are the same, how naive are you! Removing the fuel allowance was a bad decision and has impacted many pensioners, shame on Labour and their lies.
@ they didn’t remove it numnuts, look it up!!
They means tested it, like every other benefit in this country!!
The poor people will still get it, but the outrageously rich pensioners won’t!!
About time!!
The toured greased the pensioners for everything and gave nothing to the young or to families
Time the boomers z started to pay up
1 in 4 pensioner households in the UK is a millionaire. FACT! Check your facts out before putting others' views down.@@edthompson9337
@@edthompson9337 Why do you think pensioners were bribed for years with the triple lock and all these goodies, while public sector workers haven't had a pay rise in 14 years?
@blazzz13 It might have something to do with the pension being so low compared to other european countries, it's hardly generous is it.
Well said. This needs to be on repeat.
Brilliantly summed up! 💯👏👏👏
To put it another way 5% of the UK population went to private schools whereas 80% of Tory party MPs and a higher percentage of Tory donors and party members went to private schools with the majority going to Eton
So, it turns out the left isn't all that well educated after all? Thought so. Now it all makes sense.
So what?
@lestrem11 apparently they are less well educated than we have been told.
20% of Tory MPs are landlords. They're the ones to sort out the housing crisis!
Why do you think we can not vote out Westminster? @lestrem11
She's right. It's the Tories and their ilk that have done this.
You are joking ..
@@julianparrett9005 No. But the fact that you're unable to see the damage they've done makes me very suspicious of you. Where do you get your news from? Because you might want to look into expanding your bubble, because you're either ignorant, or complicit. Which is it Julian?
Labour will finish it.
@Zobbster
Not as ignorant as you it would seem
@@deanrogers8381Nah. I'm not a right winger.
Where was the journalistic hand wringing over austerity for EMA? For Sure Start Centres? For PCSOs? For council funding?
It was never challenged as the Winter Fuel Allowance of Farmer's Inheritance has been. Yet they directly resulted in enormous issues of poverty, social issues and excess deaths - even before Covid.
The double standards of journalism in this country are terrible.
certainly wasn't by Iain Dale as he's a tory boy
@@kanedNunable Hey, come on! He lifted some boxes once, he understands the working class!
Well said and where were the farmers when Tory Ministers negotiated trade deals that negatively impacted them or Brexit cost them subsidies from the EU that werent matched by the UK Gvt ? The difference now is I suspect that they have a Gvt that most of them didnt vote for .
@peter As you certainly do.😊
@@chatham43 You divvy.
Well said too this lady well done 👍👍👍👍👏👏👏👏
This lady hit the nail on the head, the Tories (which Iain is one) took away support for young families, the disabled and the poorest people in the country, all while ensuring those with the broadest shoulders (financially speaking) benefited from tax loop holes.
So Labour thought it OK to remove support from pensioners?!!
Most pensioners don't need it.
Well can't take it elsewhere as the Tories have hammered the elsewhere to the point close to gone.
People with severe disabilities can tell you that.
Instead of looking down to fill the coffers look up and up again as that is where the distribution of wealth has gone. Star there.
Do not scapegoat the people at the bottom as that is where the right wing and far right want citizens to do and will continue to want and do that.
Have to take them on. Call them out and put the scapegoat squarely where it should be with them.
@@chatham43
...but those who will freeze...do!
Yes not one currently vocal criticised the older people who died under tory Austerity.
Well said sick of everyone who have conveniently forgotten the last 14 years and don't start me on reform . This lady is spot on
Make the most of it.
@@jamjam2833In my area the trains are getting nationalised i will be making the most of it.
@chrisbrookes7422 fantastic…choo choo
@@jamjam2833yes!
@andrew You mean the austerity...or hard unpopular decisions when Labour do the same.😊
That caller is magnificent. If more of the electorate were as well-informed, thoughtful and compassionate as her, this country would not be in the craphole it is.
so its the callers fault for the state of the country, not Starmers
@ It’s the fault of every single person who voted for Brexit or the Tories over the past fifteen years. Starmer has been in power less than half a year, for goodness sake. Blaming him for the state of the country is like blaming the fire brigade for the damage done by a massive spate of fires set by a bunch of arsonists to whom the public kept giving matches for years instead of calling on people who might try to put the fires out.
@@michaelbudden4799 here we go , blame Brexit, in that case, Falklands war, Brexits fault, England not qualifying for the 1974, 1978 world cup, Apollo 13, Vietnam war, WW1and WW2, the great depression, Crimean war, all Brexits fault
Let's hope all the newcomers feel the way she does.
@@melprice8961list the Brexit benefits then.
What is better now?
Finally a caller who knows the facts and speaks the truth
😂 really doesn’t. The Labour budget has crippled the economy
@@markgt894 Nope, that was done by the Tories
@@Payteerthat is being made far worse by London Labour. It’s a London thing. Ruin Britain and the economy!
@@markgt894Brexit and the Tories crippled the economy
@@Payteer can’t blame the economic fallout of the Labour budget on the Tories 😆😆
I wish everyone was like Jan ❤
Yes, all the world's cats would have a home. 🥰🥰🐱🐱🐈🐈
@jeffsimon9594 thanks Jeff
Well, he is Tory though and through. He was even trying to become a Tory MP in the last general election. Simply the caller did a great job shutting down all his talking points.
@@mancdave123 Don't mention it
She is quite right, it’s going to take a long time, it’s far too early to judge results.
She's not right at all, she is myopic and deluded.
Gammons bursting a blood vessel at the truth, this woman puts Ian "the pension beater" Dale to shame ❤
She's amazing.
Will someone please think of all the poor millionaires there's no way they can pay more tax (that is still less as a % than us working folk).
@@Jourifouler so insular and selfish that’s the way the world has become.
30% of tax is paid for by the 3% of the ‘rich’. Keep up child.
@@lestrem11 It depends how you look at it as the lower earners pay a higher proportion of their income in taxes, especially when considering indirect taxes.
@@lestrem1130% Is that all? Should be at least 50 keep up kid.
@@lestrem11and they own 99% of the capital
She's RIGHT you know!
How many under 30's now own property?
We cannot go on, pushing pensioners while treating our young, working, families in such disdain
The youth need to vote
Nope She's talking mainly nonsense and to be fair to you I think you know that.😊
@@jasonhaven7170 yes, they do!
@@chatham43 don't tell me what I know & I won't tell you about your mother and me....
@@MaxMisterCVery mature response 🤦🏻
Well said. Brilliant call! Another shout out to Iain Dale for allowing the lady to speak, challenge politely and respond in kind.
This lady is spot on!
Fantastic! Finally a voice of reason.
Im not really a fan on Ian's, he's just a conservative mouthpiece that was surprisingly quiet the past 14 years when his friends were running this country into the ground but fair play to him for keeping quiet and giving the woman the time to share some hard facts, that alot of his peers lie about.
Well that ticked all the boxes here and 12 likes isn't bad. Room for improvement though.😊
why doesn't Iain Dale argue for the increase in pension credit threshold instead of a universal benefit for the wealthiest generation?
Because us boomers paid 43% basic rate tax for the benefit!
This lady is spot on. The right wing media including some Torry supporting journalists in LBC would take Jesus apart daily if he were now the leader of the Leader Party.
Well done this caller. The frenzied approach of the right wing media proves Labour is doing something right!
@glenden So that's your litmus test of a Labour party!😂😊
They're just mad they can't control him.
Er Starmer's Labour is center right!
Brilliant caller who tells it how it is. Glad to hear when we have people who are actually politically literate.
And coincidentally agree with you.😊
She's amazing. Nice to hear some common sense for once.
@Eloise But what about the common sense you disagree with?😊
@chatham43 can you tell me how EVERY PROBLEM with the NHS, economy, any public service, etc, could have been fixed within half a year?
Jan nailed it, superb.
Well said Jan.
Pensioners on the poverty line won't be losing their WFA. There's an argument to be had that they may struggle with applying to keep it with the local authority. Surely a neighbour or relative can help out, if we're talking about applying online.
...or a librarian, you'd hope, but look what happened to libraries and council budgets under Osbourne.
My son sat by a lady in Manchester Airport who was spitting feathers shes lost £500 fuel payment. She was off for 6 weeks in the sun to Tenerife. Sounds like absolute poverty!
WFA has NEVER BEEN £500 NEVER.
@@JoBroughton-yw7unThey just made it up to sound relevant!😂
My father was annoyed by it. He owns 3 properties, owns 4 cars and usually spent his winter fuel allowance on a Christmas Party
@grow Very convenient story to underline your agenda.😊
Pensioners have worked for 50 years to gain wealth
What's your solution ? Tell workers if they work hard for 50 years they get punished for it .
Thank you for this lady, as a 39 year old man, I thought the whole country had lost it's mind
You have gone mad!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So you're not a Mrs?😊
@@chatham43 reading comprehension seems to be above you
@Mrs So you're not sure. And thats OK. .😊
@chatham43 alright mate
Bascially labour needed to solve all the problems caused by the destruction of the last 14 years in 5 months.
Yes it really is ridiculous to expect Labour to fix 14 years of brutal vile Torie ideology, greed, contempt and arrogance in 6 months.
However many citizens Farage followers refuse to see as they believe Reform is their saviour. Big mistake.
Reform Farage are Tories but more far right.
GBN is full of Tories.
Not one from Labour evident.
One would think that the Reform voters if not Tories would easily see that for themselves. Astounding they don't.
Exactly. It's insane
Well said Jan, I wish there were more like you!
Finally, some honesty.
Brilliant, wishing you health and happiness. Brilliant.
She's absolutely brilliant!
Ian only has “What about the pensioners”?
I’m a pensioner and we all have to pull together after the fiasco of the last thirteen years
@
I wasn’t having a dig at pensioners, it’s the only argument Dale had to challenge the caller.
@@emilymccartney1593 I'm a pensioner too
we are the generation that got everything
subsidised house buying
low tax from oil money and asset stripping
Free higher education
and
Tax free savings
I feel embarrassed that my generation voted in the complete shower that has wrecked the country for 14 years
Ian is a Margaret Thatcher sympathiser. His an angry man. who pukes all aover my radio wigh his right wing nonsense.
Giving him the benefit of the doubt but I think Ian plays devils advocate here, lightly.
He's probably well aware the fuel allowance was introduced as a blanket temporary measure that was unsustainable. Same with the bus fare caps. Was due to expire where there wouldn't have been any cap at all, and Labour reintroduced one but at £3.
That caller was absolutely right.
And the Tories and RefUK can get stuffed, too.
{:o:O:}
Very impressive from this lady! If only more voters were this educated on our politics!
This lady was elderly, read the book, seen the film ate the pie from another oldie 76 things are dire my generation are the last to have dreamed the dream.
Love this woman. What a legend. She speaks for millions and is explaining WHY the country just voted in a Labour government with enough power to push things through. Jan gets what the majority of us get and it’s brilliant, she doesn’t allow Dale to push her off course or distract her. G’wan Jan!
They are blundering along like a rudderless ship, ...one failure after another.
Dud Starmer worst ever PM with his millstones. Election now!
Just need to persuade the 80% who didn't vote Labour.😊
@@chatham43Or the 89% who didn't vote Reform or Tory,so your point is?
Don't you have a job or a hobby? Or are you a bot? @@chatham43
Didn't vote Labour. Never have. Never will, but this lady is spot on.
Your opinion has no worth. You’ve made up your mind about all the elections to come. The quality of the candidates and policies is irrelevant because you picked a side.
@rowredround7206 My choice is based on one particular fundamental policy of theirs that will never change. My opinion has as much worth as anyone elses buddy.
There is no easy fix to the genuine ruin the UK financially. I wish Labour would emphasise this, but as long as the mail and media keep gaslighting the public, people will feel their tribal outrage at things they largely do not fully understand.
Grifters gonna grift, Farage is nothing more, nothing less. How people don't see that is absolutely amazing.
But thankfully you aren't gaslighted and can show us all the way forward.😊
They have emphasised this. With the WFA being means tested for the richest pensioners they said if they didn't take this measure they'd have to make cuts to front line services. Keir asked what front line services they'd be happy for him to cut. Not one right wing journo could answer him.
@Eloise So these pensioners who will freeze to death this winter are low priority? Thanks Sir Keir.😊
Great video
They didn't penalise 9 million pensioners. Honesty please, Iain.
"1 and a half Million Pensioners need the payment."
"Do you really want to penalise 9 million people that I have acknowledged are in the richest economic band"
Uhhh, Yes? Obviously?
@AwesomeWookiee my point is that the 9 million was a ridiculous statement.
@@AwesomeWookiee The same people that are now crying for wealthy pensioners for get benefits are the same ones saying that no one should get benefits. They can't see the double standards.
This lady is SPOT ON!
If you are a pensioner in a 3-5 bed house and you are complaining about not being able to heat your estate then SELL IT and downsize and stop buying your scratch cards like us young people are told to stop buying flate whites in order to get a deposit for a house!
Im a pensioner who has lived in the same village all my life.Why should I sell and move , where can I go? Starmer kept his heating allowance , why did he take ours and not use the £8 million a DAY to keep foreigners warm?
@@prideofdurham4776 you can go anywhere, I bet you wouldn't expect a young person that you don't know to be able to live in a house that they couldn't afford, just because they've lived in their whole life...
@@prideofdurham4776 if you can't afford to live in your home you can't afford to live in it. Simple as. Why does the state owe pensioners freebies not afforded to poor families with young children?
@@StevenBussey The value of your estate is only realised after your death. That's how probate works. Most pensioners -while alive- are asset rich and cash poor.
@prideofdurham4776 grow up. your generation voted massively for boris who cost us 2 trillion. yet its workers expected to pay it back under the tories. why should you be immune from how you vote?
The tories spent £ 1 billion on deporting 0 to Rwanda. Let that sink in!
Those poor millionaires
Ian brings up Farage saying Farage said free at point of use on healthcare. So did Ian ask him how much that would cost?
It was a weird defence. What he said in the studio is immaterial to what he's on record saying.
@EloiseB2025 the problem is our mainstream media go soft on challenging reform. Ask them a serious question, and they fall over or run away. Lee Anderson, on their plans for NHS and how much it would cost, is the perfect example. They haven't got a clue but are consistently given air time to spout their simple thoughts and influence people who can't think logically to jump on their bandwagon.
This is the best Labour government ever dealing with very difficult situation
OMG. What a fantastic lady.
Jan for primeminister!!!!
He tried to scupper her, little did he know that she knew what she was talking about
I concur. This caller totally echos my feelings too, and the passion of her delivery.1: 5 kids living in poverty and many more kids being raised in families that are stressed and struggling.
You really believe that will change under this lot?
@chatham43 Things will change, Probably not as much or as quickly as I would like.
I don't think people understand how much damage was done to the UK in 14 years of Tory devastation.Austerity shrunk state responsibility, and embraced rampant expensive privatisation.
Don't forget the conservative party redefined poverty because they couldn't meet their target of making sure so many children weren't in poverty but we're just going to ignore that.
@Margaret Not to mention the trillions spent on Lockdown which devastated the economy sure you would agree!
Since when is Iain Dale a Reform stooge? Saying it’s too early to judge Farage and Tice, whilst clobbering Labour nonstop is a new level of cognitive dissonance
The difference between farage and keir is keir is actively working regardless if you agree with his policies. Farage hasn't done one in person MP surgery in the 5 months he's been an MP.....
Well said Jan
Iain Dale completely proved her point on the MSM... She was making very valid points about a collective endeavour, taking children and families who have nothing out of poverty, and all he wanted to do was bring it back to the same pitnicking points without thinking about a holistic view... Where was that scrutiny under of last government? Where is that scrutiny of Reform and their appalling policies?
it shows how right wing supporters most of the media is
Quite right that caller about Starmer and the menace that is Reform and the right wing press.
Someone ask Ian what he would do differently to fix this mess we are in.
Major tax breaks for low earners (as Reform are suggesting) is a great idea.
@@jeffsimon9594 How is that gonna fix social services and price increases?
@@razielthered I could do without most 'social services' thanks very much.
@@jeffsimon9594Expert analysis of Reform tax policy showed that it would make the poorest WORSE off and the richest BETTER off.
Reform also want to introduce insurance based healthcare - have you seen the cost of health insurance in the USA system they'd base it on?
He gave his solution, increase the cost of energy.....not sure how that helps anyone....
5 *****, but sunak? Try conservatives! Cos Boris did everything right!? What was PPE for friends!???? How much did that cost?
Well said that lady I agree with everything she says 👏 👍 😊
No you don't.😊
Wow! She owned him - greed is the issue and abusive work practices - wealth equality is key and no one seems to want to take on the super wealthy it’s easier to attack the elderly and disabled or displaced so repeating the abuses of employers wanting more and more for less whilst salaries bonuses and profits soar for a few
I think she's been watching too much BBC
well said that lady torys 14 years of ruin Farage/tice pair of grifters
Kier Starmer is looking like the worst Prime Minister this country as ever had,
Around 25,000 to 30,000 pensioners die each year due to the cold
32 of the past 45 years Tories have been in power. In there time in charge around 800,000 pensioners died.
Right-wing press are quiet.
Increasing minimum wage brings more money into the economy, which means people have more money to spend, which helps employment. This has been proven time and time again in many different countries.
You're right the more people have to spend the better it is for the local economy, if the local shopkeeper has to pay their few staff more, that will be offset by the extra money going through the tills from customers with more to spend.
It's money going out the country as well that doesn't help the economy.Off shore if you know what I mean. 🏴🇬🇧
All the Tories offer is the trickle-down excuse to give their rich friends an easy tax ride.
@@johnwilliamson3228 trickle-down would work if it was a pyramid of champagne flutes. As it is it's a punch bowl supported by pitchers supported by shot glasses supported by thimbles
Well said common sense
Somebody who finally cuts through the nonsense of client media. This clip should go viral.
Absolutely right!
6:55 - Farage and the NHS. 2016 - there's a clip of him saying he wants to get rid of the NHS (it's on YT somewhere). If he said in the LBC studio the complete opposite, then he's either changed his mind - in which case he needs to be open and honest on why he's changed his mind - or (and more likely) he's lying yet again.
Well said that woman. Great point that pensioners own their own homes! Yet plea poverty ( a big lie)
I’m a pensioner. The only thing, as with pension credit, universal credit and tax is that there is always a threshold. Those JUST above tge threshold are those who might be unable to afford their heating. It’s a problem not easily sorted.
But they don’t all own their own homes do they?
What a brilliant caller, i applaud her❤.
Jan is spot on..
Here here lady, someone has actually done some research. She clearly knows Farage.
I actually like Starmer. He is intelligent and not boring at all. I have heard him make some really great speeches. The media need to remember he has only been in power for a few months. He can't solve the Tory mess of 14 years in that time.
Spot on Jan, couldn't have put it better myself!!!
Missed a trick by not saying that the right wing media would absolutely crucify him if jesus christ was the leader of the labour party.
they would try and make out johnson was better than jesus christ
Add to NI and help pensions and the economy, or vote for Liz Truss and wipe £425bn off pensions, and for Brexit and damage the UK economy for decades.
The Tories froze tax allowances ! This has placed thousands into the taxation btacket and loss of benefits! Why should those pensioners be paying tax to pay £ millionaires £300 a year to fly off and avoid the cold weather !
Labour have said personal tax allowances will remain froozen till at least 2028, so it's more of the same from the Labour Party!😂
@@edthompson9337Because they can't afford to increase them thanks to the Tories.
Labour are actually giving NHS, and other public sector, staff a pay deal that is not a real terms pay cut.
@@adrianhjordan1981 They are looking after their supporters, stuff the rest of us!
@@edthompson9337gotta fix the tory mess somehow 😊
She is spot on
If iain cant see this woman is right he needs a dark room to think in .
Well said that woman.. They have done a lot so far, and are working for the people..... .. Workers have paid the price for wealth employers for far to long, and now its their turn to pay something and not before time...
Absoluteley correct . Totally agree.. the corrupt Tories left the UK Bankruot , with Austreity, more Homelessnees at its highest ever in history, More foodbooks than McDonalds...
Brilliant caller. Put Ian right in his place.
'You're a super intelligent man" satrical sense of humour this person.
I don't like Sir Keir Starmer but I must admit the caller is right........ ❤️🇬🇧
I’ve read all the comments. There’s not a single person here who disagrees with this caller.
Well done that, lady 😊 She's right about the millionaires in reform and the tory party. Yet they claim to understand 'ordinary ppl'.
Right wing press never, ever held the previous tory govt to account the past 14 years. Labour have been in just 5 months, and they can't stop moaning 🙄
Very well said Jan ❤
Spot on!
She's right.
Common sense prevails, at last!.
Fantastic call very well said👏
Magnificent!
such a lovely call spot on
Well said by her