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Buddha on Anger and Hatred
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2024
- What did the Buddha have to say about anger and hatred? Did he distinguish between the two, and what should we do about them? We'll look at a few of the key early discourses of the Buddha for answers.
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00:00 Intro
02:06 The Dhammapada on hatred
03:29 The Discourse on the Simile of the Saw
12:15 The discourse on a conflict of gods and demons
21:40 Not easy recommendations
22:59 Is anger motivational?
24:07 The Buddha on anger vs. hatred
24:55 The Buddha’s sternness
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I want to thank you very very much for these videos, I don’t live close enough to a Buddhist centre to regularly visit. And these videos have been a huge part of my practice and genuine improvements I’ve made to my life the past few months. Thankyou again!
Oh, very cool to hear, Jim. Thanks for watching and for letting us know! All the best on your journey. 🙏
@@DougsDharma did the Buddha believe in gods like shiva and Vishnu? I know in Buddhism gods aren’t necessary for enlightenment but did the Buddha in some way “believe” in the gods of the Hindu traditions like shiva Vishnu and Lakshmi. Or did it not matter to him if they were real or not
@@torisantiago9176 Hinduism is an anachronism at the time of the Buddha, but he did accept the Brahminic deities of the Vedas. He simply considered them deluded but powerful beings. See my video on whether Buddhism is atheistic.
@@DougsDharma It is amazing how much buddhism did influence hindusim, especially when you get into the likes of advaitia vedenta.
Well said, Doug. Thank you.
“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.”
As hard as that message is to hear when we’re upset and furious, it still holds true.
Yes, it's not an easy teaching.
Thanks for summarising the Buddhist view on anger in such a concise way.
My pleasure!
A wise, timeless, always relevant teaching; thank you for this lecture. I too find myself quick to anger, often at the social and environmental conditions/issues we are seeing worldwide currently. I just finished a Thich Nhat Hanh book in which he emphasizes similar themes: we must meet injustice, anger, and wrong views or actions with calmness, mindfulness, and peace, for our sake, the other's, and for the planet's sake. It can be so difficult to maintain this practice in the face of injustice, but it is the only way to avoid exacerbating the issue and making things worse. Thank you, Doug.
Yes, well said. A tough practice, so useful though.
Great talk, thank you🙏
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Thanks again.
My pleasure!
Thank you for your videos Doug 🙏🙏🙏
My pleasure, Shunsuke! 🙏😊
Very timely. thanks!
Very welcome!
One of the best videos you've made, thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! 🙏
Thank you for this.
My pleasure!
Thanks so much for your video and explanations 🙏🏽📿.
My pleasure, Viky! 🙏
Thank you again Mr. Doug 😊
You are very welcome! 🙏
Off topic but I really like your aesthetics in this video. It's beautiful.
Thanks, glad you like it!
Fantastic depth on the subject for a personal and universal level. A complex topic dealt with expertly. Thank you Doug!
Glad it was helpful, David! Thanks for the comment.
This is great, thank you!
My pleasure, Spindrift!
According to my understanding and knowledge in buddhism i agree with you 100% .
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Thank you for guiding me to this video. It's incredibly informative and I will also be going to the video on self defense.
As a side note; it's hard to imagine you having a quick temper. However, I've always said that the more quiet people are the ones who are the most frightening. 😉
It is a lovely video. Thank you again. 🖤
Thank you for this video. These are all very complicated topics and you make very good introductions and summaries with out dumbing anything down.
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Many of your videos are of great aid to me when penetrating the Dharma. Thank very much! The most important thing you said, in my opinion, was that we must not forget that the suttas, in their majority, are directed towards monastics.. people who have come to a decision of renouncing most of a common life to reach the ultimate goal of Unbinding. Here in the west most of us have a Christian background and we know how harsh is the christian judgment on “sin”.. so when we read of the Buddha severely emphasizing to monastics that anger is a defilement to be extinguished, we imagine that we are in great fault for not accomplishing this task in the ultimate level, even though we are lay followers who can’t practice metta like the Buddha expected of his monastics. Ironically, I feel like I’m closer to abandoning anger when I let go of the anger of anger itself, as if, let’s say, patiently understanding that it may take for me up to seven lives to abandon anger and live the fruition of the path that I undertake, now as a lay follower. This angry judgment on anger itself is very common in the west and causes a lot of neurotic symptoms when we simply repress anger instead of trying to understand it’s cause in wrong views and wrong attention in order to patiently change our unconscious working models. Hope this aids in our meditation on anger.
Yes exactly, José. Also if we have a lot of anger towards our own anger this can lead to spiritual bypassing, where we just pretend that the anger doesn't exist.
Thank you for the video, I have been contemplating Justice lately, and I found this relevant to my practice, thanks.
Glad it was helpful, Jacob!
I have spent the better part of the last couple of years of free time exploring The Way of the Bodhisattva. Shantideva’s explanation of the pitfalls of anger and offering of the practice of patience as an antidote are so beautiful and resonant as well. I really enjoyed this video and learning about these teachings, it was a great way to end a long day! Thank you for sharing!
My pleasure, Trevor. Thanks for your comment!
I cannot recall a specific instance but many tales of Zen masters reprimanding monks either through words or physical acts would seem on the surface angry or harsh but the masters’ actions were coming from a place of compassion. In the sense they wanted the monks to realize something and the only way to do this was through a swift and abrasive action. In many cases it leads to monks having a moment of realization and the monks are thankful afterwards. There was no anger involved but the actions, from an outsider’s perspective, would seem angry or wrong. I’m not sure it directly correlates with the Buddha’s teachings about anger but it reminded me of these instances.
Right, these are similar to the Buddha's apparently harsh reprimands of monastics who were in the wrong.
Thank you
My pleasure!
Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.
Yes indeed! Thanks Saralamuni.
Amazing work, keep going dude
Thanks Sam, will do!
Thank you!
You're very welcome!
I need this video so bad…
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Very timely video…I’ve been struggling with my mentor at work for the past several months. Felt irritated towards her after being chastised for something I did today. Looking for other jobs because of her, but being able to radiate metta towards her and myself are important. I’ve also kept in mind the Buddha’s advice of the 5 ways to avoid holding grudges towards others, especially the notion that we are all the heir to and owner of our own kammā.
Yes, the awareness you describe is so important. Thanks, Charlie.
Thank you brother 🙏
My pleasure, Kevin. 🙏
I don't think we need anger to motivate action, although it does feel that way sometimes. It's not a great analogy but we can be in present but remember the past. We can be mindfully firm in our response when there is an injustice. We tend to feel anger because we feel it protects us, but it just creates bad habits that makes us unhappy and creates further disharmony. I am learning to face challenges without getting caught up in emotions so this is very relevant to me at the mo. Thank you for this video. Another great analysis of the early suttas.
My pleasure. Yes, there are better ways to motivate action. 🙏
Anger is the most difficult emotion to deal with. Supressing it is no good. Healthy expression of anger is better but can so easily become toxic. Anger never ceases with more anger, this is very true.
Yes, I agree wiseone101. It's a very difficult practice.
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I always say don’t answer stupid with more stupid. When anger controls us, we are in a type of stupor where we are completely controlled by impermanent emotions however the consequences of our anger filled actions can have grave consequences
Yes, it can be hard not to respond with anger to anger, but in the long run it’s a better option.
Loved this! I look forward to your videos every week. I have a random question, do you happen to have any videos on the different types of Buddha statues? For example I always see the very happy fat Buddha, and then I see a slender, curly haired one. Curios what the difference is, and I'm still very new to all of this. Was wondering if you had made a video explaining this before. Thank you!
I haven't done one on various Buddha images, maybe that's something I can discuss in the future! 😊
Though I did this one on the history of icons in Buddhism at a more general level: ruclips.net/video/qRqxuxS1qUg/видео.html
A very good topic, because so many view Buddhists as passive, but I would not describe Buddhists as passive, but rather that they respond in a skillful manner.
Yes, that's right Steve. Sometimes passivity is skillful, but certainly not always. The Buddha wasn't a passive person at all.
Good points
Thanks!
I wish there was a way to make more people benefit from these lectures by making them accessible in Indian languages.
Yes ... I'm not sure how to do so, and making translated transcripts is unfortunately costly!
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My pleasure!
Well, I'll take what the Buddha says as is. Since a Buddha always has the quality of being neutral and detached from all forms of craving, resentment and delusion.
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I doubt almost anyone has ever regretted letting go of anger or hate where as the opposite doesn’t even need to be said.
Right, though too many seem to think anger is pleasant ...
Excellent video but only part 1, I’d love to see part 2 on the how to practice
The main practice suggested for anger is lovingkindness or metta, along with the other so-called "brahmavihāras". I've done several videos on that, a playlist is here: ruclips.net/p/PL0akoU_OszRi-PrNLubfI0LVwkjXbZ-c7
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Speaking on behalf of fools everywhere I’ve found anger to be the most difficult emotion to experience exactly for the reason that it can so easily lead to hatred or destructive actions. Through practice I’ve found that the length of time I get angry has decreased and most times I start to notice myself becoming angry as oppose to it just erupting out of me. I try to keep this all in mind when I’m dealing with someone who is angry at me. This reminds me to be empathic towards them because I know exactly the kind of struggle that they are going through. The struggle is real! I wonder if you could do more videos on the topic of anger. I know that you said the Buddha didn’t distingue between hate and anger. Did he have any specific suggestions on how to transform or use the energy of anger in a more skillful manner?
Thank you
Hi Eli and welcome to the club of fools! Yes anger is so difficult to deal with. To my knowledge the Buddha never spoke of using anger skillfully, since he didn't consider it a skillful emotion. That said, the Buddha certainly talked about the importance of energy and motivation in our practice, and that can be gained by becoming aware of our own suffering.
I think it is also important to understand that feeling anger is not the same as moving with anger. You can still feel angry- anger stems from fear and a desire to protect/defend yourself and others- but it is unwise to let anger lead you and influence how you act.
Also as someone who used to teach myself sometimes you have to be stern because without structure theres a lot of anxiety and uncertainty in people you teach, and that's ultimately more cruel on your part.
Yes, sometimes sternness is warranted.
@@DougsDharma thanks for your reply Doug. Hope you are doing ok with everything.
After years and years of trawling suttas and prescribed practices for anger I took on a CBT plus mindfulness workbook. I found it compatible and usefully effective. I’d be interested in your take on integrating Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and mindfulness based practice.
That’s great to hear, Venerable. I don’t know a lot about CBT, but my understanding is that it’s derived from some Stoic ideals that are close to Buddhism. If so it ought to be compatible with mindfulness or MBSR practice.
@@DougsDharma Appreciate your response.
@@DougsDharma I did some videos based on a book, a PhD thesis by jenny Quek, The Buddha's Technique of Counseling in the Pali Canon.Basically reading the book to camera, adding some graphics. Not many people seemed interested so i cut it short. But that is a good resource. Paralleling Buddha Canon quotes with contemporary therapy, psychotherapy.
I understand on finding compassion for those who would hack you limb from limb. It is not really possible though. Being realistic I think this is about finding that angle of high roading or pitying such behavior from a comfortable distance. It's not really possible in the moment, in fact you wouldn't really be conscious or capable of a lot of mental processes during such a ordeal. It's like pitying a car accident.
Well pity wouldn't be the aim; pity contains elements of conceit that aren't really skillful. The aim would be more one of compassion. But you're absolutely right that this is a very, very high bar, one that I think we can't really get a good handle on.
great topic, i'm very confused about this one
Thanks Lucas, yes it's surprising and confusing to many.
Underneath the anger there is love. When you see the love, the anger will spontaneously disintegrate.
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I'm into shortcuts and if you do to then I would research the Khyentse lineage in Tibetan Buddhism. Vajrayana Buddhism short cuts a lot of what I call "cookies of the mind" concepts. Emptiness and Wisdom is more of a beneficial focus IMO but you may not have the same Karmic link. Worth making that connection regardless.
Thanks for the info.
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Hey, Doug! I was wondering what Buddha - or even you - think about tattoos and whether it is acceptable in buddhism or not. If so, how much of it is acceptable and does it matter of what or where you have tattooed?
Buddhism doesn't to my knowledge have anything to say about tattoos. (Though the Bible does!) That said, in some Buddhist countries it's considered blasphemous to put a tattoo of the Buddha on oneself. Other tattoos I don't think should matter.
do you have any videos about dealing with frustration during a buddhist path?
Well I have a couple of videos on patience, such as: ruclips.net/video/d_cCtPPiN34/видео.html
From what I understand, For anger to manifest, first we need to get frustrated. In order to get frustrated, we need to have craving to something. Although Buddha preached how poisonous/detrimental craving is, it still need to be combine with ignorance in order to lead to frustrations and than anger. Both, ignorance to let the craving mind untamed and ignorance on how to achieve what you are craving for. (Because, When we crave for something and know how to get it, we'll get energized to achieve it). How come The Buddha make any gesture/statement that justified anger. It will only prove that he hasn't achieve the complete enlightenment since he still have untamed craving and/or ignorance.
Furthermore, the Buddha craving to make all sentient being his equal (to be liberated from any craving & ignorance,etc) and the Buddha know what this angry person want by being angry.
Any angry person only want one thing, that is for the anger to be disperse. Or the anger itself want to be moksa, knowing this, than why would I intentionally light up my anger and than go all the way to distinguish it again? 😅 yes, there is angry Buddha, but that won't be Sakyamuni.
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It's very interesting to know that God&Demon turn out to be having 1 common enemy! It's not that they are fighting each other, instead they are hand In hand fighting ignorance. It's just different approach, no wonder Buddha claim that event Demon will protect The Buddhas. From this I gain deeper understanding on why Buddha liberate the demon from upasaka vimalakirti super natural power when the demon ask so.
For injustice, this one gonna be a lengthy argument, but in short : all I understand is that, we have to consider dependant origination of karma and identify what kind of injustice it was to know how to cure it according to Buddha's wisdom.
After 2500years & billions of people know the Buddhas, none ever titled as hero, instead they got titled teacher of god&demon. 😅
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Can you do a video on Dzogchen?
It would need additional research on my part. Dzogchen is part of a much later tradition, most of my focus is on the early material. But maybe someday!
I don't know if I should say this but I suffer from BPD. Which can, and will lead to intense anger and hatred. Even tho I medicated right now I still have slip ups, which I really wish to avoid. How can Buddha help with mental illnesses?
I think it’s best to have mental illnesses dealt with by experienced doctors and psychologists first, and then approach the practice from that base of wellness.
The concept called 'Righteous Anger' could usefully be employed to explain the apparent anger of Jesus of Nazareth in the temple courtyard.
Spiritual practitioners who have a significant degree of maturity in their practice have the ability to focus what appears to have the cloak of anger whilst being strangely calm and collected within.
Perhaps so, Andy. Though violence is a kind of special topic.
Podrás subtitularlo al español como otros de tus videos,por favor.saludos
No puedo hacerlo mi mismo; no sé si RUclips lo haré en el futuro. Espero que sí. 🙏
The roots of my anger is the ignorance.
Yes, ignorance is at the root.
Buddha is as like as great medical doctor or surgean or psychiarist. We all are as like as patients who get suffering. Depent on a patient's diagnosis or condition, the medical doctor or surgean going to care the patient. Such as .. bitter medication, sugery, pull out a teeth..etc. The patients shouldn't blame the surgean or dentic or physician for their treatments. We should see the results that we feel better or recover.
According to Buddha, " Human being undergo great suffering because of greed, anger and ignorance." Buddha wants to cure human suffering. Depend on individual character, Buddha choose different methods or words; therefore, get good results. For example, good person, noble person etc.
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Could you explain more about the question below?
1). What are the causes of anger or hatred?
2). What are the effects of anger or hatred?
3).How may results come out because of anger?
4).What should we practice for less and less of anger?
5).How can we totally get rid of anger or hatred forever?
Great questions, Win. Maybe I'll do a video on them in the future! 🙏
How about the repeated game of prisoners' dilemma? When all players have the chance to punish the player who deviate from a cooperative strategy. Would the punishment be considered as self defense or revenge in a Buddhist's point of view?
Also, could the punishment be justified? I think even we are not willing to revenge others, at least we should deliver a message to those who bully or even persecute us that we have the ability and opportunity to get revenge
Yes, this is normal and natural within an ordinary householder setting, where we need to discourage bad behavior and protect ourselves as well. I think it's one reason why the Buddha set up a monastic sangha separate from householder life. For more on the idea of self-defense in the suttas see: ruclips.net/video/3aXjrEdpIjY/видео.html
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When I see a wasp stuck inside angrily going up and down the window I will attempt to introduce him to Buddhist practice
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Whenever I hear Sakka I think of avatar the last airbender lol
What does Buddhism have to say about Justice?
I have a playlist on social and political issues with Buddhism where I discuss some of that: ruclips.net/p/PL0akoU_OszRhRTFjzEz5i7G8XoNhORcDs
I don’t think it’s good if someone is being abused severely they should respond with love, that will suppress a healthy anger that they should have against someone crossing their boundaries, for example woman being abused by her partner it would be unhealthy for her mind to respond with love and like gaslighting herself, I feel there can be a healthy anger when someone is crossing your boundaries
"Love" would I think be the wrong word in that circumstance. But the Buddha's advice is to always remain kind: both to yourself and to others. In the case of abuse, it's most kind to do everything you can to get out of that sort of situation as quickly as possible.
If buddha was married I would have believed he truly overcame anger
😄 Well he was married before he became the Buddha.
Did anybody get angry and hated watching this video???
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I don't agree with the common approach and saying that "hatred is bad." I think it is better to see it as just another emotion, feeling or experience among the others. This is reflected in our actual use of the word... i.e. "I hate pie" or "I love pie".... very casual. "I hate Nazis" or "I love my spouse"... not so casual. Love taken to extremes becomes pathology, same with hatred. Having said that... whew!.... do I ever wrestle with a temptation to hate over growing in compassion! Though, to be sure... how we talk about these things is so dependent upon what we mean by "self". I really appreciate the story of the debate between the god and the demon.
Sure, hatred is one emotion among the others. It's necessary for us to accept it for what it is, and not try to encourage "hatred" towards it, that only makes it worse. But we should see it as unwise and unskillful, and hence if we can find ways to rid it of power, we should pursue those paths. 🙏
@@DougsDharma I can definitely see it as being "unskillful" and how not developing these skills is definitely unwise!
This would be a foreign concept to other religions.
Well it would be a foreign concept to many of us! 😄
Totally disagree. You have NOT studied other religions...🎑
If someone has been sexually abused I believe it is emotionally healthy to be angry at their abuser. Some things are not forgivable. At the same time, one does not want to obsess about the anger on a daily basis as that is giving power to the abuser.
I agree
Certainly anger in such a situation is entirely human and understandable. I would be angry too. We should keep in mind though that anger hurts us more than it hurts anyone else. It's painful and corrosive.
Jesus on the cross supposed to have said something like "Forgive them as they know not what they are doing" regard to his crucifiers. Since Buddhism was in the region of Afghanistan only a century or two ago, I wonder whether Jesus was well versed in Buddha's teachings.
I don't think so, Kathir. Jesus's teachings came pretty exclusively out of the Jewish prophetic tradition.
You can't live peacefully in the world unless you live peacefully in your own head first. If you can live peacefully in your head you can live peacefully anywhere and there's no need for anger.
You are the only thing you can control, measure or analyze. All perceived faults begin and end with you.
Thanks for that Imhotepsol.
do not use toxic masculinity in regards to men and bravery. you are not helping the already existing problem between the two sexes.
Where was the toxic masculinity? If so it was not intentional.
@@DougsDharma its start at 17:32. word is at 17:49 . just wanna clarify that both sexes can be toxic.
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@@gabrielleangelica1977 and...? whats your point?
@@creestee08 Fix your problem first.
First understand how Panchasil works. Buddha chose bhikhkhu life when you have all knowledge of universe and you trata yourself as begger then no chance of anger and hatred comes to you
Only reason for decay of budhdhism in india is Lord Shiva notorious son of bhikhkhu budhdha
Messiah born four year after his father's death how it is possible his rule book is holy.
बुध्ध ग्यान मिलनेके बाद घर छोड भिख्खु बन फिरते है.
Thank you
You're welcome! 🙏