Coaching is multi-faceted. It's being a motivator, the locker room personality manager, the strategist and the in-game and post-game executor. It's rare for one person to excel at all of these facets (one reason why they have staff)
Charles is 100% right. Shaq talks about himself a lot and HE didn't need coaches. But what about Jaylen Brown, Al Horford, Marcus Smart etc.. They ain't remotely Shaq and they DO need coaching. Even Jayson Tatum is going to need a good coach for his development
@@MrGenexxxShaq didn't need a coach. The guy played bully ball and could just dunk over everyone. When he was with the Magic and he left to sign with Lakers. His stats didn't change much clearly showing coaching did nothing for him. The guy didn't have footwork or a good midrange. What can a coach teach him about dunking? Nothing, that's what. Phil Jackson was there for Kobe and crew. Kobe developed under Phil Jackson and he improved. Shaq did not, he just learned how to run the triangle offense but he was still a poor free throw shooter and he didn't acquire footwork or mid range game.
@@LazyCrazyGuy you have no idea how hard the triangle offense really is to implement, if it was that easy then why doesn't much teams do it succesfuly at the time. It's because a good coach that can implement it to his team is rare and shaq actually does play perfectly with the system despite being a freak nature by himself. You should watch the clip where rodman shows on the court how phil applied the triangle to them and I really doubt And back then it is not the head coach's main responsibility to make a player a better free throw shooter and acquire footwork or whatever betetr stats you had in mind, It's all about the system and defense. What you are referring to is a personal coach not a headcoach🤣
Shaq saying coaching's not important, yet his Lakers didn't win three in a row until they got the Zen Master. Also the legendary Pat Riley in Miami...#facts
@@beankobe8205 They was 30 31 and 32 when they came together. KG was defensive player of the year and they were all All stars old my foot!!!! Why do people act like they was pushing 40 in 08??? They were all still top 20 players in the league.
Shaq is just only thinking about it from his own perspective. He was always bigger and stronger than everyone else so he never needed to worry about X’s and O’s or what the coach was saying. That’s why his answer to everything is just “oh you just gotta pound the ball down low to the big guys and you win” he never needed to think too much to be successful
@@onezero-10 Shaq is coachable, what he was trying to say is since he is a superstar and he's the face of the team he is also more responsible and have some sense of urgency
Shaq basketball IQ sometimes is on a dunce level. It's like he can't critically think about the question and give an intelligent basketball answer. His perspective is very limited, much like his vocabulary! I leave the REAL basketball analysis to Chuck, Kenny, and EJ!!!
ime Udoku's tough presence on the sidelines was a big part of the celtics identity and that toughness seemed missing all season. Also, Mazzulla's robotic, distant interviews don't do a lot to show he really has a handle on the team.
The Boston Celtics need to STOP attempting so many 3 pointers per game. I understand that the game has changed and it's this generation's "style of play" but this is getting BEYOND ridiculous!
Michael Luciano: You can argue we are in a mini renaissance for the dominating big man with Jokic, Embiid, & Giannis but they are mostly not traditional Big Men. Like they are the last 5 MVPs, different era for sure but the Big Man is back in style.
I really don't see how Joe Mazzula can be blamed so much when Tatum, Brown, Smart and Horford have had 3 Coaches now to get them to this exact stage of the playoffs multiple times. Brad Stevens who basically did most of the development and laid the foundations, Ime Udoka who took them the next level and finally got them to the Finals and now Joe Mazzula. The fact is the Celtics generally speaking always seem to do poorly after having great seasons as soon the expectations and pressure come the following season. It literally been a meme worthy running theme for the last 6-7 years. He definitely deserves some blame but those 4 have been in the League long enough and reached this stage more than enough times to know how to get through it and just turn up.
Thank you instead of blaming coaching what about player accountability yeah he didn’t coach his best but Tatum brown smart old man should play a lot better the C give them this series. brown or Tatum has to go they both turnover machines w no killer instinct
@@semajspivey1720 coach Mazzula is a rookie coach and it really showed. Chuck is 100% right, they just jack up 3 whether open or not, and that is the biggest factor for the Celts, they can only have themselves to blame, the players and the coach.
I think they need a championship player like a Kawhi Leonard or a Steph Curry type of player who has the experience and doesn't succumb to playoff pressure. Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown can't handle the playoff pressure especially when they are deep into the playoffs. And yes, they also need a championship coach.
The Celtics’ front office’s decision to let Ime Udoka go came back to bite them tonight. I also think it’s time to break up the tandem of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, because in big games like this, they flat out caved in under pressure
Nope. The Celtics just consistently do poorly after having great seasons as soon the expectations and pressure rise for the last 6-7 seasons. It was a running theme throughout Brad Stevens tenure and I doubt Ime Udoka for as good as Coach he is would have been able to change that pattern. This team clearly thrives a lot more and seems to love been underdogs in order to have great seasons.
I’d say give it two more years tops then trade away tatum and probably another guy in the top 8 of the rotation. Mazulla’s “just didn’t shoot enough 3’s” strategy won’t workout bc the Celtics top 2 players aren’t those type of CONSISTENT 3 point shooters.
@@greatpyrenees559 There is no guarantee Ime Udoka for how good he is would done much better. The harsh reality is the Celtics seem to always do poorly and fall apart after great seasons only to repeat the cycle all over again for the last 6-7 years.
@@taliamason7986 that is true but udoka was more creative on both the offensive and defensive end and better at making adjustments. I wasn’t saying ime guaranteed a title but he was a much better fit with this team. I also understand one of the largest issues is that both jaylen and Tatum are inconsistent
They don’t even run plays. Imagine forcing Tatum to the post, forcing Brown around screens into mids, running White off screens into the corner. They just don't run plays, jus ISO ball & setback or jab step 3s.
People are saying it's not the coaches fault. Let me clear something up. I am definitely not a believer in Tatum anymore but the Celtics have been playing the exact same system they were playing under Brad Stevens. It is a 5 player 1 on 1, this team does not slice and cut. They don't scramble and they don't play as a cohesive unit. They literally play iso ball and take turns doing it. That is not a winning formula for a championship. The truth is Brad Stevens is the GM which means he has input on how the team plays. They are playing exactly how they played when he was coaching. You have regular season coaches (Mike D'Antoni, Mike Budenholzer, Brad Stevens, etc. and then you have championship coaches (Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich, Steve Kerr, etc.) Joe Mazulla ignorantly responded that the amount of threes the Boston Celtics chucked up was not a problem. I can tell you it's a problem and it's why they lost. Live and die by the three. You should be looking to get high percentage shots and if a man opens up then pass out for a three. But don't walk up to the line and shoot a contested three after you've missed your first 12 attempts. That is the sign of a coach who will make very little use of the talent he was handed. Just like Doc Rivers under delivered with the Boston Celtics Big 4 because Rondo was a huge part of that offense (disrespectful to him to only say Big 3). Mike Budenholzer also under delivered with the Bucks and Brad Stevens under delivered along with subsequent coaches Ime Ukoda was the best coach Boston had but........I agree Tatum and company failed but the coach is the navigator. He failed to make a correct plan and Brad Stevens failed to get someone who could navigate them the right way. Not his way because his way has been a consistent failure.
Not a believer in Tatum anymore... why? Because he sprained his freaking ankle on the first play? He averaged 27 on 50% and currently has scored the most points out of all players in the these playoffs. Get lost with the tatum blame.
@@America2Monaco disappears every playoffs. He was fine, if he hurt his ankle for real he would not have been playing he would have been sidelined. I've hurt my ankle like that and either it's hurt or it's not. You're either unable to run on it or you can. I don't want to hear the excuses. Every year it's the same story with him. He's always checked out in the conference finals and finals.
@@America2Monaco I know the ankle effected him but you will never know a team or player by stats alone. No matter how good or bad. I try to stay positive about him but I’ve realized he is a very streaky shooter and has very questionable shot selection
I get what Shaq is trying to say, since he is a superstar and he's the face of the team he is also more responsible and have some sense of urgency, coaches are guiding players and players are the one who get it done
You’re not going to win chucking up 3’s. It’s not going to work every game. Put your head down, get to the paint, draw fouls. The Celtics definitely died by the three.
I said it from the beginning that would come back to bite them. I was right. As much as a fan I am, being a Bostonian, I take a 3% pleasure seeing them fail, this is what they get. I bet Ime is sitting back getting grade A H-Town dome right now laughing at Brad.
Joe can be the coach, he just needs to change our identity back to a defensive team. Defence wins championships, the only team to win chips by shooting 3’s were the warriors. We are most definitely not the warriors. I think if Ime Udoka might’ve gotten us to the finals
I think they should keep Joe as the coach for atleast 1 more year. He got thrown into the head coaching position out of nowhere, give him a full offseason to prepare and plan and see how he does next year. I don’t believe they should be firing coaches so quick like this. Yes they fell short but for getting thrown into the position out of nowhere cus of what happened behind the scenes I think he did well
Joe definitely should go. Jaylen I don't even know. I want to know exactly how bad that hand was. I just can't see them paying him 300 million after game 7.
@@Gmanu29 jaylen has a much better shot selection and doesn’t force his shot like tatum. And Brown is much stronger. Tatum is only considered better because he makes more highlight plays and is easier to promote. And did you not just see klay embarrass himself with an awful season where he’s taking more and more difficult shots he can’t make. I will say, klay is trying to be a more all around scorer but he’s just not that guy. And when you didn’t play 3 yrs in a row he’ll probably never be the same. And everybody just gushes over his spectacular past and his very meh present
Why is this even a conversation. Its silly. It was his first year as a head coach and he got them to the Eastern Conference Finals. They lost 4-3 so it went seven games to a Heat team that is really good and made the Eastern Conference Finals last season I believe. People are so quick to fire a coach and get a new one. Give him a few years. Its not all his fault for them losing. Tatum is not consistent and Brown is the same way. The players didn't play well enough. The coach can draw up the best scheme in the NBA but if the players don't go out there and execute or make shots or defend then that is not the coach fault. Defense is effort. Effort from the players. The coach can't make players play defense. He can come up with strategies to help but its up to the players to buy in and give effort and execute. The coach cant make players make shots. He can only put them in the best positions to score. Its up to the players to put the ball in the basket. The coach can not keep players from turning the ball over. The players have to be better at handling the ball and having better ball security. Too many coaches in the NBA get blamed for a team losing or not making the finals. Its not always the coaches. They fire one coach, get another and then fire that coach in 2 years, and then get another. The cycle repeats itself for some or most of these teams in the NBA.
He was but I mean it’s his first time as a head coach so spo should be out coaching him. I don’t think they should fire him after just 1 season. They were 1 win away from the finals and let’s not forget he had no idea he was gonna be in that position. He got thrown into it not long before the season started cus of what happened behind the scenes with the last coach
@@Kar-y6v I’m a Celtics fan, did you forget about the first 3? And lucky the heat couldn’t make a shot in game 6 and were 0.1 seconds away from still winning
@@suneelj93 😂😂😂 honestly the team is probably just as deep but Mazulla cut his rotation down to 7 or 8 in the postseason. And this Celtics team should have lost in the 2nd round if they didn’t play against the even worse 76ers
@@RiM2540 The Celtics shoot themselves out of every loss by taking 40 contested threes. Tatum and Brown have also developed ZERO chemistry in all these years. Nor do they run actual plays.
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DEFINITELY not the man for the job. Btw Boston only rotated 6,7 player. Many dnp's all season. Time to fortify that lineup with capable men in every roster spot
I mean Shaq has a point. You can't always rely on a coach to motivate. The players need to be self-motivated to go out and perform. What's wrong about that?
Yes he is. Joe Mazzulla is the right man for this team. Which I know that the voice of the players is more vital and important were the management listens to. Second, the coaches is the next voice to the owner and management. Joe is first year in this team and I believe he can do more better to make he's players more cohesive and defensive minded team. Joe will improved more and I am sure he will be ready for the next season and will prepare he's very best to push and encourage the players to work hard.
The coach has nothing to do with your best player getting ZERO buckets in 4th quarter... Tatum was consistently quiet in crunch time. He got carried to the ECF and decided not to show up letting his team go down 3 games in a row.
So not calling a single timeout when the Heat scored 47 during a quarter is doing a good job? Turning a defensive minded team into an offensive minded team is doing a good job? Telling the team to keep shooting 3s even though they aren't going in is doing a good job? Sometimes I really think a lot of you people have low-functioning brains. If there is one man to blame its Joe.
Kenny is right. When you live or die by the 3, you live and die…, by the 3. Celtics have zero backup plan if the 3 doesn’t fall. You see what happens on a night when the 3 doesn’t fall. They will be a mediocre team without a plan B even tho they are overloaded with talent.
No, he is not. My guy does not even know how and when to call time out correctly. He was called out for that. Every time the Celtics made a stop on game 7, they chuck a 3 even their stat says "no do not shoot 3s" and did not say anything. He just let them do it. He could not even breakdown Miami's zone. He got out coached as his players choaked! Double whammy.
Mazzula was in way over his head, drowning for the entire playoffs. Terrible with timeouts, with rotations, and made absolutely zero adjustments. The Celtics played with no ball movement, no players moving without the ball, and a strategy of hero ball; either jacking ridiculous 3s or iso dribbling into the teeth of the defense. The brass didn't do him any favors by not getting him a competent, experienced staff, but at the end of the day, the moment was far too big for Joe.
No Mazzula is not the man for this job. When you are 3 games down and have the better rooster you were out coached. And if you want to compete for championships he is outclassed.
@tylerholt6828 They don't need Pop or Kerr. If they had even an average coach they don't go down 3 games. Joe is just really that bad. 47 heat quarter, 0 timeout from Joe the entire time.
NBA the league of overpaid players,that under perform.That then blame it all on the coach. Any decent management in the NBA - IE: Not many. Give a coach another season to redeem themselves after a failure/disappointment of a season. If they don't redeem themselves the next season,then ok to fire them.
Joe didn't force anything. The team had an argument with Brad about why Ime was fired after game 3, and then just put it behind them and came to play. Joe does NOTHING for the team.
It's way too soon to fire Mazzulla. First of all, tell me the last time that changing out coaches four times in four years worked out well for a team. Multiple, rapid changes in the HC position undermine continuity and player buy-in. Why would players buy into a new system when they think the guy is probably only going to be there for one year? Secondly, I'll go back to the fact that firing Udoke was one of the dumbest moves the Celtics have ever made. That type of stuff happens frequently in professional sports, the Celtics overreacted, then bungled the whole situation further by turning it into a media circus. It was also obvious that many of the players did not agree and were not informed by the franchise, which further undermined the team. To be honest, getting to the ECF this year was surprising given how badly the Celtics managed the offseason. Also, Celtics fans seem to ignore (or simply be ignorant) the fact that, compared to Udoke and Stevens, Mazzulla had an incredibly thin roster of assistant coaches. The Celtics (for other inexplicable reasons) let go of a veteran like Will Hardy and Stoudamire left us before the playoffs, creating a mid-season coaching void. That took away the two top assistants and the head coach. Blaming a first year Head Coach who lost his top assistant right before the playoffs is just ridiculous. Mazzulla and the team need another year to see if they can figure it out together.
Lacking assistants doesn't excuse his lack of calling timeouts and lack of adjustments. The team doesn't have time for Joe to learn, that will take years. He needs to go if they are serious about winning. If not, I hope Tatum leaves, he deserves to go to a team that is serious and doesn't have cheap ownership.
Hey Sir Charles, did you know NBA 2K have been playing with your shoes on the game. Hey, they want to keep playing games without paying people back... that's their loss.
Jaylen Brown gotta be one of most supremely talent players in basketball with the lowest IQ. Im telling i counted more than 10 times where he literally drove the ball into a double team, got stuck and either turned the ball over or led to a bad shot. He really handicapped this teams potential this year with the way he played.
I love shaq but he is wrong on this one. even the goat needed a great coach to get his 1st ring. He ( along with Tex winter),installed a offense to allow MJ to utilize his other players and not try to do everything himself
Uncle Joe is like a child who is exhorted by his parents (the journalists) as if it were someone else who manages the bench. He is a spokesman who reads what he has to say.
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How is “shoot more 3’s” when the 3’s aren’t falling an offensive gameplan
That was awful do watch. They got the defensive stops make it count get a two.
it's not and is the reason why they lost
I would click like, but your grammar hurt my brain lol
@@GeronimoPlaz you the same person who keeps commenting about social justice garbage on a basketball show??
Joe should be fired. He wasted a talented roster.
Coaching is multi-faceted. It's being a motivator, the locker room personality manager, the strategist and the in-game and post-game executor. It's rare for one person to excel at all of these facets (one reason why they have staff)
Charles is 100% right. Shaq talks about himself a lot and HE didn't need coaches. But what about Jaylen Brown, Al Horford, Marcus Smart etc..
They ain't remotely Shaq and they DO need coaching. Even Jayson Tatum is going to need a good coach for his development
Shaq also needed coaching 😂 he’s just so full of himself
@@MrGenexxxShaq didn't need a coach. The guy played bully ball and could just dunk over everyone. When he was with the Magic and he left to sign with Lakers. His stats didn't change much clearly showing coaching did nothing for him. The guy didn't have footwork or a good midrange. What can a coach teach him about dunking? Nothing, that's what. Phil Jackson was there for Kobe and crew. Kobe developed under Phil Jackson and he improved. Shaq did not, he just learned how to run the triangle offense but he was still a poor free throw shooter and he didn't acquire footwork or mid range game.
@@LazyCrazyGuy you have no idea how hard the triangle offense really is to implement, if it was that easy then why doesn't much teams do it succesfuly at the time. It's because a good coach that can implement it to his team is rare and shaq actually does play perfectly with the system despite being a freak nature by himself. You should watch the clip where rodman shows on the court how phil applied the triangle to them and I really doubt And back then it is not the head coach's main responsibility to make a player a better free throw shooter and acquire footwork or whatever betetr stats you had in mind, It's all about the system and defense. What you are referring to is a personal coach not a headcoach🤣
Shaq saying coaching's not important, yet his Lakers didn't win three in a row until they got the Zen Master. Also the legendary Pat Riley in Miami...#facts
Self-unawareness!
Doc Rivers sitting back saying “I woulda at least got the lead then blew it…”
Doc won a championship with a old pierce and Garnett y’all hate him for no reason .
@@beankobe8205 They was 30 31 and 32 when they came together. KG was defensive player of the year and they were all All stars old my foot!!!! Why do people act like they was pushing 40 in 08??? They were all still top 20 players in the league.
@Bean KoBe if it weren't KG, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen. He wouldn't have won it.. They almost lost to the hawks and cavs. Doc is overrated
@@wakaikozy6084 bro forget what keep them together , its RONDO
@@datsapaddlinlol celtics were d and Doc win the celtics a championship
Shaq still doubling-down on not needing coaches. Its very telling and a classic example of how ego can get in the way of critical-thinking.
phil once said kobe was uncoachable, here I think Shaq proved he was the bigger problem.
Shaq is just only thinking about it from his own perspective. He was always bigger and stronger than everyone else so he never needed to worry about X’s and O’s or what the coach was saying. That’s why his answer to everything is just “oh you just gotta pound the ball down low to the big guys and you win” he never needed to think too much to be successful
@@onezero-10 Shaq is coachable, what he was trying to say is since he is a superstar and he's the face of the team he is also more responsible and have some sense of urgency
Critical thinking is based on understanding. Shaq is 7 feet and won championships while out of shape, his perspective is his perspective
Shaq basketball IQ sometimes is on a dunce level. It's like he can't critically think about the question and give an intelligent basketball answer. His perspective is very limited, much like his vocabulary! I leave the REAL basketball analysis to Chuck, Kenny, and EJ!!!
ime Udoku's tough presence on the sidelines was a big part of the celtics identity and that toughness seemed missing all season. Also, Mazzulla's robotic, distant interviews don't do a lot to show he really has a handle on the team.
They came back from down 0-3 lol that's pretty impressive imo and it probably wouldn't happen if not for the coach being tough and calculated as well
Not a Celtics fan at all but did you not watch the series? Did you not see his energy on the sideline?
@Ssk that's not impressive, they shouldn't have been down in the first place.
@@ssk58607 A competent coach would've won that series in 5 games for the Celtics due to large talent gap. Game 6 should've been lost.
@@ssk58607 Being down 0-3 against a 8th seed is horrific but okay...
These guys been together long and I love it
The Boston Celtics need to STOP attempting so many 3 pointers per game.
I understand that the game has changed and it's this generation's "style of play" but this is getting BEYOND ridiculous!
Thats the NBA. The era of the dominating big man is dead
they thought they were all Steph Curry. Even Steph didnt make his shot in the Lakers series this season and look where they are now.
Michael Luciano: You can argue we are in a mini renaissance for the dominating big man with Jokic, Embiid, & Giannis but they are mostly not traditional Big Men. Like they are the last 5 MVPs, different era for sure but the Big Man is back in style.
@@onezero-10 The warriors are home because their cast around Steph couldn’t make shots
@@thesportsguy126 joker? Maybe its not over lol
Thanks for the extra shows Inside the NBA,, even better Chuck and Shaq had to cancel their holiday to the Bahamas,, 😂😂
They still going but it just got delayed a couple of days 😂
Charles speaking facts.
Chuck speaking facts like always
I agree with Chuck at the end about having a "Plan B"
I really don't see how Joe Mazzula can be blamed so much when Tatum, Brown, Smart and Horford have had 3 Coaches now to get them to this exact stage of the playoffs multiple times. Brad Stevens who basically did most of the development and laid the foundations, Ime Udoka who took them the next level and finally got them to the Finals and now Joe Mazzula. The fact is the Celtics generally speaking always seem to do poorly after having great seasons as soon the expectations and pressure come the following season. It literally been a meme worthy running theme for the last 6-7 years. He definitely deserves some blame but those 4 have been in the League long enough and reached this stage more than enough times to know how to get through it and just turn up.
Thank you instead of blaming coaching what about player accountability yeah he didn’t coach his best but Tatum brown smart old man should play a lot better the C give them this series.
brown or Tatum has to go they both turnover machines w no killer instinct
@@semajspivey1720 coach Mazzula is a rookie coach and it really showed. Chuck is 100% right, they just jack up 3 whether open or not, and that is the biggest factor for the Celts, they can only have themselves to blame, the players and the coach.
They were two games away from a chip with Ime , they just ran into a dynasty honestly
I think they need a championship player like a Kawhi Leonard or a Steph Curry type of player who has the experience and doesn't succumb to playoff pressure. Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown can't handle the playoff pressure especially when they are deep into the playoffs. And yes, they also need a championship coach.
@tylerholt6828 and the way he answered during live conference is, yikes so bad
Thank y’all for another great year! See y’all in October!
Yet Shaq only won his 4 championships with 2 of the 5 greatest coaches in NBA history. Coaching matters.
Those coaches raised the floor for the bench and the role players so the keys had a supporting cast
They're gonna bring back DOC RIVERS 😂😂
CELTICS HAVE BAD PERFGORMANCE
THE COACH NEED TO PIPE THEM DOWN IN THE SHOWERS LIKE JERRY SANDUSKY AFTER THAT GAME
Lol
Hire Ham
Ngz finna get fired
The Celtics’ front office’s decision to let Ime Udoka go came back to bite them tonight. I also think it’s time to break up the tandem of Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, because in big games like this, they flat out caved in under pressure
Nah. The Celtics should never allowed themselves to be down 3 games to 0 in the first place.That's on not just the coach, but also the players.
Nope. The Celtics just consistently do poorly after having great seasons as soon the expectations and pressure rise for the last 6-7 seasons. It was a running theme throughout Brad Stevens tenure and I doubt Ime Udoka for as good as Coach he is would have been able to change that pattern. This team clearly thrives a lot more and seems to love been underdogs in order to have great seasons.
The Celtics went 7 games with the Heat last year. They just ain’t show up in game 7 this time.
@@mightdai7489 it can rot or it can be revived. Based on the rockets record
I’d say give it two more years tops then trade away tatum and probably another guy in the top 8 of the rotation. Mazulla’s “just didn’t shoot enough 3’s” strategy won’t workout bc the Celtics top 2 players aren’t those type of CONSISTENT 3 point shooters.
They should have never fired ime ukoda he held Tatum and brown accountable 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
Udoka broke the Boston Celtics rules about team policies having improper intimate relationship of there staff member.
@@Kar-y6vthat has NOTHING to do with that comment
@@Kar-y6v and ur point 😂😂😂
@@belly3677 u mentioned Udoka not being fired but why shouldn’t he be?
@@Kar-y6v Except it does
I think he’s the man for the job 😂
Jerry Stackhouse is the best hire for whoever is smart enough to make it happen
It’s the players fault. They’ve been thru three coaches and cannot win
Ime udoka was the guy … he should not have been fired
These days, the coaches are held accountable for the players' shortcomings
@@greatpyrenees559 There is no guarantee Ime Udoka for how good he is would done much better. The harsh reality is the Celtics seem to always do poorly and fall apart after great seasons only to repeat the cycle all over again for the last 6-7 years.
@@taliamason7986 that is true but udoka was more creative on both the offensive and defensive end and better at making adjustments. I wasn’t saying ime guaranteed a title but he was a much better fit with this team. I also understand one of the largest issues is that both jaylen and Tatum are inconsistent
@@Bobbacuda Which so many fans are really getting sick of tired of.
They don’t even run plays. Imagine forcing Tatum to the post, forcing Brown around screens into mids, running White off screens into the corner. They just don't run plays, jus ISO ball & setback or jab step 3s.
That’s why udoka shouldn’t have been fired, he had them set plays run for the team
People are saying it's not the coaches fault.
Let me clear something up. I am definitely not a believer in Tatum anymore but the Celtics have been playing the exact same system they were playing under Brad Stevens. It is a 5 player 1 on 1, this team does not slice and cut. They don't scramble and they don't play as a cohesive unit. They literally play iso ball and take turns doing it. That is not a winning formula for a championship. The truth is Brad Stevens is the GM which means he has input on how the team plays. They are playing exactly how they played when he was coaching. You have regular season coaches (Mike D'Antoni, Mike Budenholzer, Brad Stevens, etc. and then you have championship coaches (Phil Jackson, Gregg Popovich, Steve Kerr, etc.)
Joe Mazulla ignorantly responded that the amount of threes the Boston Celtics chucked up was not a problem. I can tell you it's a problem and it's why they lost. Live and die by the three. You should be looking to get high percentage shots and if a man opens up then pass out for a three. But don't walk up to the line and shoot a contested three after you've missed your first 12 attempts. That is the sign of a coach who will make very little use of the talent he was handed. Just like Doc Rivers under delivered with the Boston Celtics Big 4 because Rondo was a huge part of that offense (disrespectful to him to only say Big 3). Mike Budenholzer also under delivered with the Bucks and Brad Stevens under delivered along with subsequent coaches Ime Ukoda was the best coach Boston had but........I agree Tatum and company failed but the coach is the navigator. He failed to make a correct plan and Brad Stevens failed to get someone who could navigate them the right way. Not his way because his way has been a consistent failure.
Not a believer in Tatum anymore... why? Because he sprained his freaking ankle on the first play? He averaged 27 on 50% and currently has scored the most points out of all players in the these playoffs. Get lost with the tatum blame.
@@America2Monaco disappears every playoffs. He was fine, if he hurt his ankle for real he would not have been playing he would have been sidelined. I've hurt my ankle like that and either it's hurt or it's not. You're either unable to run on it or you can. I don't want to hear the excuses. Every year it's the same story with him. He's always checked out in the conference finals and finals.
@@America2Monaco I know the ankle effected him but you will never know a team or player by stats alone. No matter how good or bad. I try to stay positive about him but I’ve realized he is a very streaky shooter and has very questionable shot selection
I get what Shaq is trying to say, since he is a superstar and he's the face of the team he is also more responsible and have some sense of urgency, coaches are guiding players and players are the one who get it done
Celtics standing around watching/ way too many 3s, and when they miss didn't adjust, not calling TOs etc.
Yep. Mazulla would call timeouts too early, and would call them after it was too late.
Send this clip around to every person involved with the Celtics organization on and off the court.
You’re not going to win chucking up 3’s. It’s not going to work every game. Put your head down, get to the paint, draw fouls. The Celtics definitely died by the three.
Doc on his way bacc to Boston
Crip Killa
From the moment they got rid of Ime Udoka i was against the Boston Celtics.
should have never been fired
the entire team should have simply ran a train on him in the locker room instead as punishment
@@MisterHoodrich89 very true, they played themselves. Sometimes showing mercy is key.
They were afraid of the media
@@mpiloenhlesibanda3666 No mercy to train though
I said it from the beginning that would come back to bite them. I was right. As much as a fan I am, being a Bostonian, I take a 3% pleasure seeing them fail, this is what they get. I bet Ime is sitting back getting grade A H-Town dome right now laughing at Brad.
Lol as a Lakers fan, this is amusing.
I guarantee a vacation season😂
Chuck was right on this one
Joe can be the coach, he just needs to change our identity back to a defensive team. Defence wins championships, the only team to win chips by shooting 3’s were the warriors. We are most definitely not the warriors. I think if Ime Udoka might’ve gotten us to the finals
Title should be: "Is Joe Mazzulla A Man Or A Robot?"
Joe Mazzulla will improve as a Head Coach
rly hope so
some already thinking Doc Rivers coming back 🤷
I think they should keep Joe as the coach for atleast 1 more year. He got thrown into the head coaching position out of nowhere, give him a full offseason to prepare and plan and see how he does next year. I don’t believe they should be firing coaches so quick like this. Yes they fell short but for getting thrown into the position out of nowhere cus of what happened behind the scenes I think he did well
Joe gotta go. And I think it’s time to trade brown
Trade Jaylen for Klay
Joe definitely should go. Jaylen I don't even know. I want to know exactly how bad that hand was. I just can't see them paying him 300 million after game 7.
@@Gmanu29 jaylen has a much better shot selection and doesn’t force his shot like tatum. And Brown is much stronger. Tatum is only considered better because he makes more highlight plays and is easier to promote.
And did you not just see klay embarrass himself with an awful season where he’s taking more and more difficult shots he can’t make. I will say, klay is trying to be a more all around scorer but he’s just not that guy. And when you didn’t play 3 yrs in a row he’ll probably never be the same. And everybody just gushes over his spectacular past and his very meh present
Awkward
Why is this even a conversation. Its silly. It was his first year as a head coach and he got them to the Eastern Conference Finals. They lost 4-3 so it went seven games to a Heat team that is really good and made the Eastern Conference Finals last season I believe. People are so quick to fire a coach and get a new one. Give him a few years. Its not all his fault for them losing. Tatum is not consistent and Brown is the same way. The players didn't play well enough. The coach can draw up the best scheme in the NBA but if the players don't go out there and execute or make shots or defend then that is not the coach fault. Defense is effort. Effort from the players. The coach can't make players play defense. He can come up with strategies to help but its up to the players to buy in and give effort and execute. The coach cant make players make shots. He can only put them in the best positions to score. Its up to the players to put the ball in the basket. The coach can not keep players from turning the ball over. The players have to be better at handling the ball and having better ball security. Too many coaches in the NBA get blamed for a team losing or not making the finals. Its not always the coaches. They fire one coach, get another and then fire that coach in 2 years, and then get another. The cycle repeats itself for some or most of these teams in the NBA.
Get Doc Rivers back
Its tatum and brown's fault. Plus the coach letting them shoot 3pt bricks is the nail in the coffin
Brad steven should be the one coaching next year
He needs some veteran support if nothing else
JOE GOTTA GO 🤬🤬🤬
Bottom line Celtics need a legit bus driver for the team like Curry, Duncan, Kobe and MJ.
See y’all next year
Celtics was clearly out coached by the Heats
In game 7
He was but I mean it’s his first time as a head coach so spo should be out coaching him. I don’t think they should fire him after just 1 season. They were 1 win away from the finals and let’s not forget he had no idea he was gonna be in that position. He got thrown into it not long before the season started cus of what happened behind the scenes with the last coach
@@Kar-y6v I’m a Celtics fan, did you forget about the first 3? And lucky the heat couldn’t make a shot in game 6 and were 0.1 seconds away from still winning
Mazzulla is wrong saying that Celtics are not reliant on three's and do not have change. I hate his attitude. I think Brad Steven's is overrating him.
The irony is Shaq saying he doesn’t need a coach when he won his first title when Phil Jackson came to town.
Trade Smart
No. Ime Udoka took the same team to the Finals last year; Mazzulla almost got the same team swept in the ECF.
Okay, Joe Mazulla literally was an unexpected head coach because of the firing of Udoka, he hasn’t even had a full off-season with the team.
Actually the 23 Celtics are way more deep and better than the 22 team.
@@suneelj93 😂😂😂 honestly the team is probably just as deep but Mazulla cut his rotation down to 7 or 8 in the postseason. And this Celtics team should have lost in the 2nd round if they didn’t play against the even worse 76ers
@@RiM2540 The Celtics shoot themselves out of every loss by taking 40 contested threes. Tatum and Brown have also developed ZERO chemistry in all these years. Nor do they run actual plays.
Kenny looks like his insides are filled with Red Velvet
Shaq is right. Coaches don't make you play better.
🔥Jimmy Butler has 3 appearances in Eastern Conference Finals in his career.
Jimmy Butler wins the ECF MVP!
Jimmy Butler has averaged
24.7PPG
7.6 RPG
6.1 APG
2.6 SPG
0.5 BPG
41.7/31.3/84.6
In 7 games versus Jayson Tatum in the 2023 Eastern Conference Finals.
2nd finals in 4 years
Jimmy Butler has a 2-2 record in game sevens in his career
50% win percentage
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22.0 PPG
6.3 RPG
3.0 APG
0.7 SPG
43.4/28.4/76.2
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-23.3 PPG
-6.9 RPG
-4.9 APG
-44.4%
-28.8 %
-86.0%
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Jimmy Butler
28.5PPG
7.0 RPG
5.7 APG
2.0 SPG
48.8/34.6/81
in 17 games in the 2023 playoffs.
-Jimmy Butler is 11-9 in the playoffs versus Jayson Tatum in his career.
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If I were the Celtics give time about this decision. Have to look at the whole season.
DEFINITELY not the man for the job. Btw Boston only rotated 6,7 player. Many dnp's all season. Time to fortify that lineup with capable men in every roster spot
I mean Shaq has a point. You can't always rely on a coach to motivate. The players need to be self-motivated to go out and perform. What's wrong about that?
Where are the pitchforks for the head of Steve Kerr?
They had 19 and 14, people should be ashamed to put the blame on joe at this point
Yes he is. Joe Mazzulla is the right man for this team. Which I know that the voice of the players is more vital and important were the management listens to. Second, the coaches is the next voice to the owner and management. Joe is first year in this team and I believe he can do more better to make he's players more cohesive and defensive minded team. Joe will improved more and I am sure he will be ready for the next season and will prepare he's very best to push and encourage the players to work hard.
The coach has nothing to do with your best player getting ZERO buckets in 4th quarter... Tatum was consistently quiet in crunch time. He got carried to the ECF and decided not to show up letting his team go down 3 games in a row.
Mark Jackson ,Kenny Smith & Charles Barkley would make good coaches 🤷🏽♀️
So not a fan of Mazula, I hope he does get fired.
Go Celtics.
Obviously he is not the man.. Boston should be in the finals easily
Shaq is correct
🗣️LETS GOO HEATNATION 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Joe did a good job. He isn't the man to blame
Yep. So much coaches slander over the last 5 years, yet they have had 3 different coaches and the players cannot win with any of them
So not calling a single timeout when the Heat scored 47 during a quarter is doing a good job? Turning a defensive minded team into an offensive minded team is doing a good job?
Telling the team to keep shooting 3s even though they aren't going in is doing a good job? Sometimes I really think a lot of you people have low-functioning brains.
If there is one man to blame its Joe.
it wasn’t the first time we saw JT or JB not showing up in key moments/games. they just don’t have it, simple as that
JT got injured on the first play you clown. JB on the other hand didn't show up.
It's still a succesful season. What are yall talking about??
Meh. Not for the Celtics. They aren’t the kings
I say let him cook
Kenny is right. When you live or die by the 3, you live and die…, by the 3. Celtics have zero backup plan if the 3 doesn’t fall. You see what happens on a night when the 3 doesn’t fall. They will be a mediocre team without a plan B even tho they are overloaded with talent.
Don’t give up on the Celtics…it’s all a learning process…every great team lost tough playoff series before winning multiple championships.
I want to be "shucksheshfull". preach Chuck
No, he is not. My guy does not even know how and when to call time out correctly. He was called out for that.
Every time the Celtics made a stop on game 7, they chuck a 3 even their stat says "no do not shoot 3s" and did not say anything. He just let them do it.
He could not even breakdown Miami's zone. He got out coached as his players choaked! Double whammy.
Joe Mazzulla will most likely be fired.
Celtics came into the playoffs ready to play GSW, they weren’t ready for a team that came into the playoffs ready to play them.
Mazzula was in way over his head, drowning for the entire playoffs. Terrible with timeouts, with rotations, and made absolutely zero adjustments. The Celtics played with no ball movement, no players moving without the ball, and a strategy of hero ball; either jacking ridiculous 3s or iso dribbling into the teeth of the defense. The brass didn't do him any favors by not getting him a competent, experienced staff, but at the end of the day, the moment was far too big for Joe.
Wen ur a leader everything is ur fault 💯
The man made it to the Eastern Conference Finals in his 1st year!!! That an awesome start to a coaching career..
A great coach coaches the great player without the great player even knowing it?
When hiring is not based on merit based
No Mazzula is not the man for this job. When you are 3 games down and have the better rooster you were out coached. And if you want to compete for championships he is outclassed.
@tylerholt6828 They don't need Pop or Kerr. If they had even an average coach they don't go down 3 games. Joe is just really that bad. 47 heat quarter, 0 timeout from Joe the entire time.
NBA the league of overpaid players,that under perform.That then blame it all on the coach.
Any decent management in the NBA - IE: Not many. Give a coach another season to redeem themselves after a failure/disappointment of a season. If they don't redeem themselves the next season,then ok to fire them.
I agree. They should give him another chance
I say be patient, Joe forced game 7 and I think he adapted quickly considering the circumstances. I say give him another year
Joe didn't force anything. The team had an argument with Brad about why Ime was fired after game 3, and then just put it behind them and came to play. Joe does NOTHING for the team.
No. Next question.
no he's next to get fired
Doc Rivers for Celtics job 🧐
So they can lose in the second round instead?😂
Charles is right Mazzulla was trash, the Boston Celtics are the better team that's why they went 3 straight wins.
Nope. He's outmatched and stubborn.
Mezulla delluda , dude a straight NPC
Man Celtics played good just gotta figure it out
They just need an actual point guard … plus tatum got injured
Im not sure how 9/42 from 3 is playing good bruh, they have no separate plan of attack other than isolation post ups
It's way too soon to fire Mazzulla. First of all, tell me the last time that changing out coaches four times in four years worked out well for a team. Multiple, rapid changes in the HC position undermine continuity and player buy-in. Why would players buy into a new system when they think the guy is probably only going to be there for one year? Secondly, I'll go back to the fact that firing Udoke was one of the dumbest moves the Celtics have ever made. That type of stuff happens frequently in professional sports, the Celtics overreacted, then bungled the whole situation further by turning it into a media circus. It was also obvious that many of the players did not agree and were not informed by the franchise, which further undermined the team. To be honest, getting to the ECF this year was surprising given how badly the Celtics managed the offseason.
Also, Celtics fans seem to ignore (or simply be ignorant) the fact that, compared to Udoke and Stevens, Mazzulla had an incredibly thin roster of assistant coaches. The Celtics (for other inexplicable reasons) let go of a veteran like Will Hardy and Stoudamire left us before the playoffs, creating a mid-season coaching void. That took away the two top assistants and the head coach. Blaming a first year Head Coach who lost his top assistant right before the playoffs is just ridiculous. Mazzulla and the team need another year to see if they can figure it out together.
Lacking assistants doesn't excuse his lack of calling timeouts and lack of adjustments. The team doesn't have time for Joe to learn, that will take years. He needs to go if they are serious about winning. If not, I hope Tatum leaves, he deserves to go to a team that is serious and doesn't have cheap ownership.
Shaq just dumb for saying this, coach dictate the style of your team and how you play.
Hey Sir Charles, did you know NBA 2K have been playing with your shoes on the game. Hey, they want to keep playing games without paying people back... that's their loss.
Jaylen Brown gotta be one of most supremely talent players in basketball with the lowest IQ. Im telling i counted more than 10 times where he literally drove the ball into a double team, got stuck and either turned the ball over or led to a bad shot. He really handicapped this teams potential this year with the way he played.
Mazzulla has psychopath eyes, the Celtics are too scared to fire him 😂
He took there defense away in made them a 3 depending team
I love shaq but he is wrong on this one. even the goat needed a great coach to get his 1st ring. He ( along with Tex winter),installed a offense to allow MJ to utilize his other players and not try to do everything himself
Uncle Joe is like a child who is exhorted by his parents (the journalists) as if it were someone else who manages the bench. He is a spokesman who reads what he has to say.