The UK Benefits System Doesn’t Work - And Narrow Minded Comments Don’t Help
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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My father used to say he didn't trust statistics because they can say whatever you want them to!
My wife and I have worked for over 20 years in the UK and paid tax, contributing NI etc. during lockdown we were both made redundant. The payouts lasted a few months and then combined we were able to get £900 as a family. That’s it! No other support. We are in London and that didn’t even cover the mortgage. How is it that people who simply serve illegally in the UK get everything covered despite never having paid a penny into the system?
I have no idea. I don't know the ins and outs of the system to be able to give you an explanation for who gets what and how.
What a diplomatic response.
if you are illegal (meaning not someone who arried by boat for the purpose of claiming asylum) it is an offence to offer them accomodation or employment. If you come here with a work visa, you have a job lined up, you cannot claim benefits and you pay the NHS surcharge.
4.8 billion a year and climbing to house refugees..
is that all refugees or those with dark skin
The situation with fake jobs being advertised is even worse than you have described, Claudia. Big Corporations advertising fake jobs don’t do it to keep people on file when a future job comes up. They do it because advertising jobs makes them look more successful and that benefits the shareholders and CEOs. In the meantime, they are wasting the applicants time and money.
I applied for job updates online for my area jobs are coming up for miles away.
During my working life since 1979 I watched Slough Trading Estate , the largest industrial trading estate in Europe drop from 680 warehouses to less than 300. An area in which you could get anything made from Ford GT 40s, Citroen cars to Mars Bars. A massive employer with further employment opportunities for shops in the surrounding area where these workers spent their wages, Slough Trading Estate is reflected across the UK , we lost engineers and other skilled working jobs. This leads to an economic collapse of the private sector, now the Government NHS and Civil Service are the largest employers, making and exporting nothing, meaning the. UK is not earning an income.
Well said
The UK is the world's 4th largest exporter.
@@ministry2627
An increasingly high percentage of that is services and not manufactured goods.
@@ministry2627 UK manufacturing, where working people are employed, not exporting money to the off shore tax havens
@@ministry2627 I believe we are fifth. This includes oil. gas gold and financial services. Manufactured goods have dropped.
The biggest threat to jobs is technology, especially the steady development of A.I. You'll see social exclusion and unemployment like never before.
It's apparent that UC is all about collectivsing the benefits system to gain more considerable control over claimant's ability to spend state money and manage people in a fashion where you are put into a position of learned helplessness. The more vulnerable you are, the greater the screws tighten to prevent you from striking out!. Nothing government does benefits you. The system is all about benefiting itself and those who want a new system which creates perpetual poverty that creates all the social issues society has faced for 100 yrs.
Instead of using ai and automation to free us from lives of drudgery we have turned it into hell
@keithparker1346 It's not 'us' driving A.I. technology, its specialist technology corporations who are developing the technology to enslave humanity. It will be put to good use to cut costs and limit human progression, in doing so, A.I. will also develop android technologies to replace human jobs in many service industries. You'll even see robots and andriods being given the same rights as humans. Sound crazy, it's not.
Totally agree Claudia, the judgement I and my daughter got about raising her as a single parent after divorce was disgusting. I worked part time and increased my hours as she grew. Had plenty of comments about her future and feeling sorry for her. The result is ironically there is an overwhelming difference about where those kids are at now and I'm so proud of her and her success. Don't judge until you've been in their position, it's just plain ignorance.
Hi Claudia. You talk a lot of sense and I applaud you for that.👏
I respect how you talk about your experiences - that takes courage and it inspires me one day to speak about different things myself - but I do fear the nasty backlash small minded comments from anonymous viewers - such is the RUclips platform - you've doubtless really helped loads of viewers understand things because you explain things clear and sensibly 🤗🌞🙂
I think it’s terrible to make assumptions about people. Lazy people come from all walks of life. I remember once I got told I was lazy at work…….the truth was that I simple wasn’t feeling well, but still went to work that day! Don’t you worry about it! 😊
Never go to work when you're feeling sick as it's rarely appreciated
@@keithparker1346 yes. I should have known better, but without me there it would have been even worse for them. Lesson learnt.
Even if half those people weren't ill or could be made well again say 2 million as an example, where are these 2 million going to get work? There's already 1.5 million healthy people unemployed with no work who aren't able to find work.
Also 1.5 new arrivals annually enter the UK, so we're looking at jobs for at least 6 million people, not to mention 8 million in part time work
NHS had tens of thousands of vacancies.....
Poor pay for terrible hours and stressful, dangerous, depressing jobs. I wonder why those vacancies are still there. My SIL is an A&E nurse and they are treated like s*** by both patients and NHS bureaucracy.
@@BB-jk1le millions of jobs needed ,the vacancies are because the ackings of care workers etc , forty thousand care workers let go for refusing to get the annoculation, probably way more let go within the nH s
As an American I’m just now hearing about benefits and how they work in the UK. There’s a difference here in the states. In the states we can receive benefits if one is disabled or cares for someone disabled. One can receive food stamps, housing assistance, healthcare if they qualify. We can receive unemployment if we’ve been laid off for a specific time. After that time they drop out of receiving unemployment. We can’t receive unemployment if we voluntarily leave our job or if we were fired for poor performance.
I don't know that there are a huge number of differences between our systems except that as standard people do not need to pay for healthcare under the NHS (although the service you get is hit and miss). I know that healthcare in the US is crippling financially. There is a lady I follow who is trying to make an income on the food delivery apps and most of her debt is healthcare related.
Over there employers for low-end jobs have no problems hiring 50-something guys who have been laid off but still want jobs. They have no problems wishing them well when they leave again after a few months or a couple of years to get back to the bigger and better work they did in their prime. Here they consider you overqualified, which basically means you sit on the scrapheap making hundreds of online applications a month.
That sounds broadly similar to the UK, except we don't have food stamps and healthcare is free at point of use anyway, although rationed by waiting time if not an emergency. The days of basic universal welfare without qualifying conditions are long gone here.
We do have food stamps, my mums friend on pension credits gets food stamps @@rachel.mcgowan
the issue is the leakage of good jobs to south asia so that a few individuals and companies can exploit the cost of living arbitrage.
the benefits system doesnt work because they target the wrong people instead of going after the ones in work why dont they go after the ones that fiddle the system
Because it's easier to go after the easy targets. In the same way that Labour will target pensioners and the self employed for tax raids rather than closing tax loop holes on big corporate companies.
Because benefit fraud is something like 0.6 percent - there are far more benefits going unclaimed than are lost through fraud. Tax evasion by big companies is what they should be clamping down on.
I've been unemployed for 11 months, and I don’t have a car or licence, so that makes it so much harder to find work where I am. I've asked for help to get a licence and told it's too costly. After my BILLS I've got £160-170/month so I am stuck and gotta find the costs for driving somewhere. Or the jobs want experience which I don’t have so I'm screwed either way.
When I look at the cost of driving now I am amazed anyone can afford to learn. My lessons used to be £5 a half hour. It's insanely expensive now. :/
@@workinprogresssince1974 yh and most of the jobs out there atm near me I need a car to get to for the shifts the businesses want so if I could get the help I'd find work so much easier to put back into the system much sooner
Well said!
Good Video.
You didn't mention the elephant in the room that is the direct or indirectly the cause of the demise of this country, the more people added the problems just keep getting worse
immigration brings the only growth in the economy at the moment, if memoery serves, £141 billion. If you exclude Gold, gas and Finance, our exports have dropped.
nothing to do with it - people emigrate each year as well - the issue is with the rich hoarding trillions off shore in tax evasion while the country crumbles and they use their power to force austerity on to everyone else - they also use their power to turn ordinary people against ordinary people and thick bastards fall for it each time - while they sit back laughing sipping champagne while we fight each other.
How does it bring growth when they’re not working and we’re paying them to sit around doing nothing.
So what you're saying is that the problem is that the poor are too poor to spend what little money they have. What about the very rich who don't have to work and hoard their money in savings and assets and don't spend it. Assets are not spending. So at both ends there is a lack of spending.
@@michaelwear2252 There is no growth in the economy, not to speak of. There is a marginal increase in GDP but the Per Capita GDP, the measure that actually matters, has plummeted. We are in a managed decline and the powers that be are massaging the figures and the slope of the curve in an attempt to stop people noticing for long enough that it is too late to do anything about it.
same here we were on working tax migrated to uni earning just above the minimum we were allowed because the way its calculated diffrent to the inland revenues so bingo were off
Extreme poverty is coming to many... money will be diverted to immigrant needs. It could be a wake up call.. sort out your finances. Universal credit needs cancelling to be used for increases in...in work wage increases...get a job or go under..i 100% guarantee that all benefits reduce by 50% and vouchers will come in for other things.Living wage..? Pensioners are not on that.
Hiya Claudia
Im still in temporary unemployment with only a few months to go to State pension retirement time.
As ive just started two half eaten apples pensions the new style JSA which lasts 182 days is going to give me 20 quid a month as too much with the two small incomes and no way would i get Universal Credit way too much Lump sum capital.
Dont think its worth signing on as 49 odd years of stamp paid in.
Im lucky ive become unemployed at the end of my working career but decided to go back into full time work. even part time would be ok as far as HMRC tax goes.
Dont want to be paying to much of that LOL.
Marc In Bletchley
PS wish me luck got an interview on Wednesday with a company that knows my age
Best of luck. Let me know how it goes!
Job offers are now based on attraction . So the staff turnover is high
I will argue that our statistics regarding unemployment and vacancies are how shall i put this?....bollocks. its common knowledge that the govt are always changing how the figures are calculated ...work just a few hours a month and you are not classified as uvemployed. The vacanci figures they throw out occasionally are nonsense too. Afaik they survey some businesses and companies like to inflate their success and growth so lie about that as they dont want to appear stagnating
I would also argue theres no real skills shortage. Immigrants are coming in to do menial jobs with few skills required... virtually every single Deliveroo rider I've seen has been an obvious immigrant. Businesses just want cheap desperate labour
It did for me for 30 years with a disabled wife and later after her death.I have yet to listen to your report and after i will comment on it.
Well said , other factors in our economy are ageing population , a large number of people I believe are called economically inactive and don’t claim also the nhs waiting lists , black market workers ,
It will take a very long time to sort this
Stop blaming the elderly
@@moosky7344 I wasn’t blaming anyone just stating facts , I am one of the economically active at the moment as I am helping family members
Young lady you are correct, These payments are made deliberately hard to claim and the system is deliberately complicated.
Just like PIP !
I have tried to help a friend but had to get him.to go CAB.
I wish you well, i will add i have never been unemployed but ha e seen the results of UCs.
Many people on UC do work!
Most workers are clueless
Best way to earn is just trying it.
Not as useless as the government!
They are those we call the unemployable
You tube has nothing to do wirh the concept that people on benefits are lazy etc. I am 73 and have heard that arguement all of my adult life.
The minimum wage is not to provide a 'living wage' to support a family. It was always considered a trainee wage. Often trainees are very expensive to employ as employment costs include training, supervision etc.
Never met a hard working person on benefits, I think because people who work hard do more hours and so will have a better income
In most cases minimum wage wont even get you off Universal credit.
Peoples are scared not to work they just spend their loves shouting at everyone .
That made a lot of sense not!
Yeh WTF was you trying to say???
I have LCWRA. Works for me.
I can get into the system and i don't have id they don't know what to do and they ate awkwayd.
Isn't ID one of a number of things like passport, driving licence, birth certificate ? The last would be extremely unlikely not to be able to obtain...but good luck
It's usually unsocial hours as well.xbest way to lernuis ny trying it.
My take away from this is that you thing a lack of education and skills is the reason people can't get well paying jobs. We have free education up until A levels, and skills can be learned (National Skills Fund). If people work to improve themselves, there's nothing stopping them from earning a good wage. UC is meant to help people in need, but there are plenty of people who live comfortably on it their whole lives, and that isn't right. And I say this having known actual people that live like this.
You are correct it goes work. It was brought about as a two year safety net,not a lifestyle.
Only physically disabled should be on benefits for more than 2 years.
It was also supposed to be for Indigenous Brits, not immigrants.
The NHS was also brought in for British people not all.
If you are not making enough self employed go into other employment. Why should the government/public cover the difference? Why do some work 9-5, 5 days a week and others don’t. Most people don’t want to work the hours or the days or the number, they do to be self sufficient. Why must an employer or the government take care of anyone? The public didn’t want the gov paying the landlord directly. The public wanted universal credit so they could decide how various benefits spent. It’s can’t be all these systems are bad for the little guy when they were changed cause of the little guy.
8 million work part-time, there is enough full time jobs for the masses anymore, even people working full time are on tax credits /universal credit housing benefit why? Intense demand is increasing the price of every thing, putting up wages which increases inflation
I suppose you are always get a range of comments. Don’t get upset about it, it’s not worth it.😊 just be happy😊
Claudia why are you not working?
Im not surprised you get blunt comments when you are blunt yourself 😏.
I don't want to pay for you ,why should I be forced to pay for you ?
For the same reason that other people's children will be paying your pension in a few years time. That's how a civilised society works.
@@pinknylon1121 if you think confiscation under threats of violence and compulsion into a bankrupt pension system is civilised perhaps check the dictionary definition of that word. Check the words libertarian and freedom at the same time perhaps.
@@flyinghigh22 Freedom? You wouldn't be able to handle freedom. The welfare state is there to take care of vulnerable and exploited people. Do your own research
Long post, though post.
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TLDR?
No benefits system would mean....
When I'm without cus im ill at the time; my family would have to go out and fight /take what i need from them that have it... nice world the idiots want eh?
good things my family around me, and myself when i was well paid in taxes? (tax are on everything!!!) and its not a free for all with no tax and benefit system?
Fools, just fools and idiots, looking at what other have and not what they already have.
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What ticks me off about most that are instantly negative about anyone on a credit system is.
They normally don’t get that UC is based on Tax credits that was a TAX Probate, because we pay taxes on everything.
That means, the alterative is a system with no taxes and no social services. a free for all, where you have no NHS no police no schools, and no need for a prebate system.
(Where protect and care / law belongs to the family and local groups and not government)
SO what the idiots don’t get 99% of the time is, it’s not the people in receipt of the tax credits that want it the most (They need it the most), it’s the people that are currently happy with the social system we have.
The lucky ones that are well, can work normally, and a good income should be happy , as the alterative is no benefits systems, and having to fight and protect what you have, if you do have.. From the people and the families /groups of the them that do not.
(very different world, very devolved world that the complainers of benefits would hate 10 times more. Me, well I have a strong family and used to be fit with great leadership skills, so I would have benefited hugely from a devolved system, complain normal’s? They would have not fared so well.)
But this goes over the heads of idiots that would have a knee-jerk reaction to someone like the lady in the video. Cus, it requires perspective and intelligence to understand.
Yeah, not a fan of your average person, they all seem very narrow-minded and pretty stilly to me :P
Addition;
10 years ago when i started tax credit and my heath was starting to go down hill and my income dropped.
they cut my tax credits and my carer talked to the office clerk who understood i was very ill and said, 'well you should go on incapacity' (and i could, just stop work)
When the clerk was asked to put that in writing, that they advice i stop looking for self employment within my need cus no one would employ, she soon changed here tune.
I work from home now, i used to have an outside job and sleep on the floor at work... i keep out there as long as i could.
yo-nomries, would you employ me? I do 30 min - 1h work burst and then have to sleep where i am for 2 hours. (i now work within 10 foot of a bed)
no, dont like that idea, happy your not forced to employ me? well, aint that a shocker?
You sound very annoyed and angry
As most people who have come into contact with the system are.
People should be