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They should leave all these mechanics to Nathan alone. They should not bring it to other regions of future, bike is absolutely no to me. People who are happy about bike might like capitano coming in helicopter ? wtf bro!
Well, considered that Snezhnaya is based on a Russian speaking country with modern technology comparable to Fontaine, I wouldn’t be surprise if Tsaritsa ride an inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM).
embarrasing uh?.. i have no idea how can people like this trash in a game like Genshin.. The characters looks amazing, but totally out of place, its like putting a laser rifle in a game of magic and swords.. just ugly. People say but Genshin has "guns" and they totally miss the point what we're talking about.
@@WastedTalent83Khaenri’ah’s technology is way ahead of it. I’m not sure if you are even familiar with Diesel punk or steam punk fiction where these advanced techs are integrated in 19th and 20th century. Also Phlogiston has been repeatedly spoon fed to us to be the source of these Natlan energy. Phlogiston + Khaenri’ah’s tech designs. I bet when Snezhnaya arrives with way more advanced tech, I’ll see more of you in the comments spreading hate with it.
i have to agree that natlan characters put me off in the one regard that they have such extremely modern elements to them, xilonen being a dj which has nothing to do with her character or job? Mavuika with the motorbike for no reason related to the story? This is just the rule of cool and that's a problem
Exactly. When you look at the rest of Natlan, there is no sign at all of this modern tech, it's literally only with the player characters. Completely out of place and immersion breaking imo.
You guys do realize that Teyvat used to be extremely Technologically Advanced before the War and it was destroyed. Mavuika literally came from 500 years ago and the Natlan characters are using Knowledge & Weapons of Ancient Heroes of the Past. Scaramoushe was inside a Giant Gundam, The Traveler was inside a Giant Robot, the people of Sumeru were not using any Mechs but a Motorcycle & a Flying Gun is Crazy???
@@OmenLamb As OP mentioned, the issue is not that these things exist. It's just that these things exist ONLY for playable characters inside their kit and not in the story otherwise at all. Like, c'mon, they should have shown Mauvika riding on her bike while fighting Capitano if that's seriously how she fights. Let Xilonen be a DJ and make that part of the story, I reckon that less people are going to complain if these things are integrated in the world and explained through the story/lore rather than just putting in their kit randomly.
The giant mechas, flying robots , flying airships, lasers , cameras , missiles, digital panels in the world are ignored now? Genshin aways had a mix of old and futuristic look
@@ageofdragonz3684 The story literally revealed she was holding back against him, Mavuika literally said it straight from her mouth. The weapons they have are from Ancient Technology, they have Ancient Heroes inside their head, their Weapons are Ancient Weapons. Why does she have to DJ? Did Chloride & Chev need to be a Gunsmiths to explain them having guns? Did Scaramoushe have to be a Scientist & Mechanic to explain him riding a Gundam? The Raiden Shogun created two Super AI Puppets more Technology Advanced that ANYTHING IN TEYVAT but looks at Inazuma.
Nah... i personally don't use Xiangling but the metaslaves will never stop using her because she was just badly designed and has no icd for some reason. The main reason Mavuika offield is good is because it's just a skill so i don't have to warp the team around funneling energy into pyronadoling
Reality: Xiangling: My time has come. Community: *Grabs Xiangling* No, it is not. Community: *Throws xiangling into Abyss* There is a second team Xiangling: PLS LET ME REST
@@bencegergohocz5988You can rant all you want but it still wont change the fact that Xiangling still does a better job on what she does compared to Mavuika. When you do a comparison between c6 Xiangling and c0 Mavuika Mavuika skill have a 15s cd and applies pyro six time once every 2s after you cast her skill and before her nightsould pts is consumed and has 3s uptime. While Xiangling’s pyronado applies pyro once every 1s-0.5s for 14s and has 6s uptime If both is compared in the span of 20s which by then Mavuika could recast her skill. Pyronado still deals more dmg then Mavuika skills depending on how you maneuver the Pyronado Mavuika passive which give 50% dmg bonus has a normal multiplier so its basically the same as Baizhu passive multiplier. It does not give a lot of dmg bonus then you expected The only reason why Mavuika support role is better then Xiangling is because of the Hero Cinder City set.
Seeing her bike in the splash art was surprising cuz there was no mention of it in the main quest. They could've have at least shown it during the quest covered under a tarp or had Mauvika making a passing comment on it.
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame So? An outfit is just an outfit. It’s a visual hint, but there is no world building in Natlan set up for any vehicles for anything other than wooden carts and hot air balloons. At least with the starter playable characters, we saw NPCs fighting with similar tech as them to integrate abilities. It’s valid to say that her bike came out of nowhere and could have at least been shown. Especially during the war act.
Thanks for finally covering pre-releases, very insightful as usual :) I wish hoyo could allow downgrading constellations so you can cover more c1/c2 content
While I understand most people's problem with the motorcycle because it doesn't seem normal with the culture and tech of Tevyat, and I get that but I love the new trend of Genshin actually giving characters new weapons since Fontaine. Wriothesley has Gauntlets, Neuvi has Hydro Pump(and a cane), Navia has a shotgun umbrella, Chlorinde has a Pistollette and Sword, Mualani has an inflatable shark, Kinich has an 8 bit dragon cannon, and Chasca has a flying gun. I for one am stoked about seeing something unique, because Genshin's formula is getting repetetive for the entire gameplay loop, so the characters being new is very exciting.
But Fontaine characters meet the aesthetics of steampunk style with the city itself, where Natlan as major cities are made of clay but they have 8-bit dragon, a flying shotgun and a motorbike, Mualani and Kachina are way better and fit NATLAN but after that...genshin trying way too hard After WUWA movement system Genshin is pushing it so hard that it is FORCED, in Genshin explorer characters were unique but now every natlan characters have implemented in them.
@@lowendplayer4259 okay but like this is just completely wrong lol. these characters were made a long time before wuwa came out, people really need to understand how long these things take to make.
its not Exiting in general, its exiting for you ,ugly and out of place for me... And im not talking about characters having "alternative" weapons, but ugly huge out of place shit. Look at Maulani, perfecly fine, in tune fantasy oriented, same with Kinich, kachina same, Xilonen.. trash, using a moden DJ console.. rollerblade? -.- same with chaska, ugly as hell, way too big, way too flashy, it makes all other characters look like inferior shit, that its not really nice, and mavuika follow the same principle its not like she has a "in theme" bike, made of stone fantasy etc.. she has a fucking 2024 sport bike model WITH modern style helmet, its just out of place. Looking good? sure they look cool as fuck , just NOT in this game tho. In star rail would be ok, in wuwa too.. we player for 4 years, with "magical/medieval" weapons and magic style.. and now all of a sudden MODERN WORLD shit? No that's just ugly.
I can accept it lore-wise, but just find the animation to be janky and silly looking. Past characters generally have more smoothe and fluid burst animations, but Mauvika’s motorcycle boisterously jumps across the screen. Instead of an elegant goddess performing some cool movement, her animation is simply jarring, imo. I was saving for her for almost a year, but now plan on skipping her because of how little I like her animations 😅
from what i saw from the chinese leaks they're saying it would be around 25%-50% damage bonus. not 100%. and it will be a sliding scale based on how many nightsoul points you spend up to 200. she can burn up 110 all by herself. meaning xilonen who can burn 90 in about 2 seconds of field time will be wedded to her hip. the problem is the pyro archon is apparently an attack scaler. meaning she's fucking wedded to bennett too. no clue if her off field dps will snapshot or not. but it's looking like her best team will be bennett, furina, xilonen. so this doesn't sound like a "game changer". i'd personally prefer it if you could at least replace bennett on teams with her. but with her damage effect tied to nightsoul points spent, they've pigeonholed her into the current meta, not created a new meta. her best support team will probably be mualani, furina and xilonen. i love her design. but... the rumors don't look amazing. i hope they rework her.
@arizona_anime_fan no like the current beta says otherwise. Her burst and skill has the highest multiplier in the whole game more than Neuvillette's CA and Mualani's Burst who had the most multiplier before. And getting her full buff Is not that hard and i highly doubt u need both Bennet and Furina with her. I think her BIS team will be Mavuika Xilonen Citlali and Bennet becoz the damage bonus she provides will be enough to ignore Furina in her teams. She needs to be nerf or she'll be a game changer better than any Pyro dps's in the game. Another Neuvillette case.
@@chanxtian8864 bro are u born to spread hate. Every comment I've seen of yours on this channel spreads hate. Get a life man, get a job, go outside and touch some grass. Ur not forced to play Genshin chill
I agree with everyone's explanation why motorbike in Teyvat is okay, but it looks so bad. How every other archon can be so simple and cool, but Mauvika needs that silly motorbike :D ... she was so much better in cutscenes.. I don't want to ride bike everytime I have to fight..
People comparing the ruin guardians and whatever to the motorcycle saying it's the same... NO, one is fantasy world material while the other look like it was taken from a cyberpunk/modern story and pasted in genshin because somebody wanted to
>Wanderer and shogun >Cloud retainer having a microwave in her idle animation and made a motorcycle before (said in her story quest) Aesthetic wise yh the complaints make sense but it's not THAT out of place function wise
@@Whoisyou123 I mean the puppet thing with wanderer is totally fine in a fantasy world. In the other hand if they add hummers (or ladas🤣) in snezhnaya and claim "it's because the cloud retainer maid it" it would be terrible design even if they give some form of excuse to why it exists
@@fdsgfsdggsdfgfsdg2152 well i guess that makes sense but it personally doesn't bother me, hell my favourite anime is random bs go (one piece and gintama) so maybe it has rubbed off on me😂
I hate it. Chasca's gun also weirded me out but i accepted it. The byke tho? I can't accept it. Maybe it's because of how goofy it looks in battle. Maybe it's colour. Maybe i hate that she is wearing a helmet. Idk. But something just does not feel right. Sigh.
@@shinobu1886 and her kit is a nightmare. without natlan characters in the team she's pretty much useless and would need like 34 auto attacks to get 100 points for her ult. and her skill isn't that good either, which is a shame bc i thought she would powercreep bennett, dehya and xiangling. but she's just a slightly better xiangling, not worth it to pull for her and build her for a small dmg increase. also, ANOTHER PYRO DPS? i'm so tired
you’ll probably crave and pull her, probably. It’s more of the experience in playstyle and her animations and fighting style are just fun to play with. I mean she can fly, drive in water and ride around i for one am very excited.
@@nicaise4402 of course she is not useless, you are completely wrong, Mavuika's own Nightsoul points count towards the 100 points, so she only needs about 12 NA to reach 100 points, and her skill is great, being able to apply pyro to multiple targets while off-field, she applies enough to many teams with the exception of a few, and she also buffs on-field char dmg after burst, even in her current state she is already an incredible character even as a subdps, you don't know what you are talking about just like a lot of people out there who are doomposting her without even knowing how her kit actually works.
Fun fact, motorcycles already exist in genshin lore, created by Cloud Retainer and powered by adepti energy, it makes sense that a bike powered by flogiston would work since for technological devices shows to work amazingly (just look at Xilonen). There would be more vehicles outside Natlan, but flogiston doesn’t last longo outside of that land.
and when do wee see this bike you're talking about made by cloud retainer? please show me ANY image.. and not just "text" Because talking about something and actually having it in game looking ugly as fuck are 2 VERY different things.
Very good points and connection back to Cloud Retainer, great reminder about technological capabilities (yet as others raised, while some things may be in lore, they are not evident or have not been realized so its difficult to truly claim these as genuinely existing except in say the theoretical diagrams of Xianyun) I think many of use who have criticisms about the bike perhaps fall into either one or both of these categories (but not wishing to speak for everyone so maybe people have other reasons too): First, 1) preference in aesthetics and/or disappointment in expectations, which is our own biases and hopes that we need to contend with. Second, but primarily a complaint I see constantly dismissed and invalidated which does not seem fair and I believe this is a warranted critique of the game direction/developmental execution of it on a conceptual basis: 2) those who are critiquing the technology acceleration, at least to me, are not denying that there are technological aspects or advancements throughout Teyvat (i.e., Fontaine is the epitome of this fact yet most do not hold such disdain for the technology at play, in large part due to its seamless integration with the theme and consistency throughout the experience of the entire region) but rather it is a critique specifically to Natlan as the technology integration is not on par in a logically consistent manner, is far too subtle/underdeveloped, or at least could and should have been more incorporated throughout the Tribes (i.e., anthropological observations in customs, tools, ways of life, architecture, etc surmising largely of stone/wood tools, decor, huts, etc that denote the technological stage of the region, which does not match the simultaneous existence of say Kinich's digital dynamics, Chasca's gigantic and bizarre gun design, Xilonen's rave/disco components, and of course, the lady of the hour, Mavuika's highly modern motorcycle). Phlogiston exists and there are some technological devices even in Natlan (more of the remnants of the former dragon age) but it is largely absent and not visible in the daily lives of the Tribespeople and the stage is very nearly preindustrial at scale to such a degree that it makes such components hard to believe as natural instead of viewing it as an immersion breaking, non-cohesive distraction. But that's my perspective on the matter, sorry I got going, a bit longer than intended! Perhaps worthwhile to consider? I for one have my complaints largely due to the issues raised above but my argument isn't claiming that there is no technology in Teyvet, its these other integrations that make this new modern direction feel like it clashes with the essence of Genshin. Thank you for your distinction though regarding Liyue and the adepti specifically and hope this was at least an interesting/well received response!
I personally dont like the motorcycle innn this game. So also feel put off. It will really depend on how she plays. I also loved Chasca initially but the gameplay and riding a gun really put me off. Such a bummer. I might just keep saving for a next character.
Exactly how I feel. I loved Chascas design, but decided to delay pulling her bc of the ridiculous gun she's riding and go for other characters on my list first. I don't love her character enough to pull her immediatly and ignore this. Mavuika is the same. I feared she'd get one bc of the outfit they have chosen for her. That felt of already. Now she indeed got the BotW Link treatmeant (or Himeko if you want) - motocycle...nay. However, I like her character more. Might still not be enough for me to pull her on her first banner, but at least she has better chances than Chasca... [Sidenote: Most characters I pull are who I like, not who is meta or strong. If both match, yay, if not, idc.]
@@_Kettenkratnatlan is on top of the highest life forms in teyvat, dragons. Their civilization had the ultimate tech in teyvat. Natlan is in constant war which propels innovation faster. I'm sure no one would try to reverse engineer a civilization that was in the height of technology.
The bike nor being Medieval is the problem, the problem is that Natlan does not provide any context for this kind of technology to exist. All of Natlan is basically the boonies then we suddenly have a Ducati Diavel 1260. It's out of place. Ancient Teyvat is not current day Natlan, they dont even understand Ancient Natlan Dragon tech. The bike/flying gun/Roller blades would've been more coherent had the nation provided better representation of structural accommodation for said current day tech; there is no real sign of advanced phlogiston tech in common use by the rest of the nation, no Phligiston workshops and engineers(no, not name engravers/not blacksmiths either), no roads for a bike. People still use hand drawn carriages and live in mud huts. Place the bike in the chasms of the Children of Echoes, atop the wooden platforms of the Scions, the Shamans within the caves of the Night wind. Does it feel consistent? I bet that that they are going chalk it up to Xilonen engineering a high performance magical bike.
Yeah I hard doubt they are gonna do that, especially considering she hasn't even had a rerun yet and is one of the most popular characters, they would very much be shooting themselves in the foot with that
@Tufis-WuWa I have a bad news for you, don't start calculating Furina vs Yelan/waterboy difference. Or Nahida vs other dendro(even 2 combined in some cases). 25% is nothing and she can easily be nerfed to 10-15%.
(Leak Talk) I know the motorcycle catches people off guard, but if you watch closely during the gameplay, the bike’s special fire effects actually make up a dragon (very clearly) so I think it’s a really cool way to make her ride both a motorcycle and a dragon which I know is what people originally wanted! it’s a pretty genius decision IMO.
people hate bike actually forget Human creating Robot 500 years ago, we see Giant flying ship in Fontaine, in summer update have rollercoaster and flying train
@@di8085 Natlan just sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the other nations. Chasca with a flying gun, DJ Xilonen, Biker Mavuika, etc... I think it's cool but it's really out of place. As long as this stuff sticks to Natlan and the Tsaritsa isn't running around with a tank or helicopter i'm ok with it lol
The most broken characters together? Furina and Xilonen with Mavuika and a flex on one side and Xiangling on the other side with her usual partners in crime, She's never retiring! Oh and I love the motorcycle! 5ds/DMC fan lol. Not to mention, I like to go fast.
I'd hate to skip an Archon and ruin my Archon collection but the last thing we need is another Pyro On-field DPS. This will go down as one of the biggest disappointments in the game. * Terrible kit that is the opposite of what we need. We needed our first dedicated 5 star Pyro off-fielder, not another on fielder. * Not only is she mid off-field, but what's worse is her DPS is just OP af, why on Earth would we powercreep Arlecchino, who has already slightly powercrept the rest of the Pyro DPS's? Not to Mention Arlecchino is 10x more interesting and better written. This is purely bad game design on both end. * One of the least interesting Archons story-wise with the least personality. The only thing keeping her interesting at all is cool fight scenes and she's kinda hot. * And to top it all off that Goofy ah motorbike doesn't do her favours. But hey, she'll have the best mobility in overworld so most casuals will just care about that. Citlali is more interesting. Both gameplay, design and story, might just skip for her instead.
Same. I’ve been collecting them since I started in October 2022. Even pulled Venti years late for collecting. Trying to remember that a year ago, I thought I wouldn’t get Furina because she annoyed me in the story and now I love her. But unless something turns around with this kit, might be the end of collecting for me
Here's my idea: *Mavuika, the Pyro Archon* : *Skill* : Upon activation, Mavuika transforms into a dragon rider, soaring swiftly and high above the overworld while riding her flaming dragon. If the hold skill is done, she doesn't ride the dragon. Instead, massive dragon wings materialize on her back. These wings flap at timed intervals, dealing Pyro damage over a set duration. During this state, her normal and charged attacks are infused with Pyro. If the player switches characters, the wings remain active, continuing to deal off-field Pyro damage at regular intervals. *Burst* : Her special 5-star animation begins with a cinematic where the dragon roars from deep within a volcano. A colossal Pyro attack erupts from the ground, as though breaking through the surface of a volcanic eruption, unleashing a massive AoE Pyro burst on enemies within a wide radius, dealing significant damage. Is this too much to ask for?
Oddly yes it is too much due to dragon and archon working together. Each time it seems to create a big mess that either MC has to fix or a ruined society that MC discovers. If you replaced all the dragon references with “legally not a dragon” it would work 😂
I agree with the motorcycle and giant flying gun... I know we have advanced tech like ruin guards and even muskets and such but idk something about it just kind of bothers me. Can't deny the motorcycle is cool though even if I was hoping for a dragon.
That's for teyvat current era, but in the dragon era, technology more advanced. (It's canon from world quest) king deshret era also had advanced technology
Well there are giant robots but they are mostly lost tech. Natalan feels like it was designed by a different team for a different game. Feels like they couldn't figure out a real world inspiration beyond a few names so they just said screw it and went with a shopping mall.
It’s like if Wakanda didn’t have a massive city but instead a bunch of stone houses, yet still having all of that advanced technology lying around. Take Fontaine for example, for the longest time Fontaine had always been implied to be at the forefront of tech, so when we see mechas and guns it didn’t feel out of place (the steampunk style also helps).
a phlogiston powered motorcycle is completely believable when you remember hydro/indemnitium powered flying ships in Fontaine, and then giant Gundan robot we fight in Sumeru, why people just assumed Natlan wouldn’t have any advanced technology being a constant nation of war is crazy
Main problem, sumeru has dendro archon, wisdom of teyvet and one and only academy to graduate. Fontaine known for their tech. Also,both nation share tech with their people(Akasha and robot, newspaper etc),but natlan .. everything feels monopolised, atleast show a world quest of a vehicle research centre where flying revolver and bikes prototype are being made.Just need the base to prove their existence.
What Fontain has is thematic coherency. The entirety of Fonatain was built around the steampunk theme with giant research institute with generations of research, the technology reflects in their architectural structures, their attires, their customs and you see wide spread common use of the Pneuma-Ousia tech throughout the nation, it's heavily incorporated in the entire story. Natlan did not built a floor to accommodate such an advanced item, instead it was probably some girl on roller skates who magically pulled it out of ass.
Maybe because all of Natlan is basically huts held hardly together by mud, sticks, and rope? Its archaic compared to the other regions and to then suddenly have digital and now industrial mechanics flung into it without reason, its just not a seamless or believable scenario Its immersion breaking in the very least because they did not adequately incorporate the technology and mechanics in the lived and observable experience of Natlan so it is out of place and not realistic. People can enjoy it but its not consistent or logical and that fact is seemingly ignored while those of us who are aware of it can't deny this reality
Xiangliing will never be dead because she cooks every abyss. And she's cooking the next one. I won't be surprised is Xiangliing gets an ancient name next patch lmao.
Nah she's not going anywhere 100% sure of that. Just like Xingqiu and Sucrose stayed relevant in their own niche after Yelan and Kazuha respectively. Xiangling will just be used on the other half of the abyss or for whatever (futuer) team wants even more pyro application than Mavuika.
Another great video i love these speculative type videos you do, they are informative and fun without being leaks so its nice, keep up the good work Jello!
What Murderofbirds reminded me is true, Cloud Retainer once made a motorized bike of some sort to beat Moon Carver in a race, so yeah, some sort of vehicles do exist, it's just we haven't seen them...
I can kinda see your point, kinda odd that it's a sleek high tech looking one as well rather than holding a similar aesthetic with the assumed time period like they did with the Cycle in BoTW. Personally, I hope they use it as an excuse to tie in beings from other worlds (like a Crossover event to tie in ZZZ or HSR) And it's not like there is a complete lack of technology with how advanced Fontaine and their mechas worked, and we know that Katherine is a machine that is borderline indistinguishable from humans, and Snesnayan made. So while Genshin has some high tech stuff, the bike seems odd.
Yes and no. Ruin guards pretty widespread across all Teyvat, bcs it's technology of dead long ago civilization. But motorcycle is only one, if let's say flying cars and motorcycles was very common in Natlan it wouldn't look so out of place, but instead Natlan ppl riding dinosaurs and only "choosen" circle of a few ppl riding futuristic devices/vehicles. 😅 Imagine this situation irl: all city rides horses and only mayor on the Lamborghini 🤣
Explain this then. If Mavuika has a motorcycle, how come no one else has transportation even close to that advanced? They explain Khaenri'an technology very well in the lore, here I hate it because they gave it as little thought as possible and just went "uH iT's pOweReD bY pHloGiStoN" despite everywhere else showing they clearly dont have the knowledge to craft such a thing. So dumb. It breaks the world building. They normally put so much effort into the lore making everything believable in this world but they really dropped the ball with Natlan
Totally right. When we arrived Sumeru we saw those giant Ruin Guards bloated with actual computers in the inside. In fact, what we saw about Kaenri'ah was pretty advanced technology... Not to mention the Akasha terminal that someone has already pointed here that is basically Internet (or Sumeru's intranet if you prefer) for conecting to a State manipulated encyclopaedia which made for an insane futuristic ciberpunk dystopia theme for a big part of the Archon Quest on Sumeru, on Genshin. In the end, I think that Genshin scriptwriters are really good at mixing things and put ideas that at first glance should not be there just for the looks.
While we haven't "SEEN" a motor vehicle in genshin yet, if you've played the Xianyun(cloud retainer) story quest, she mentions that she built what is described as a motorcycle powered by electro to beat mountain shaper in a race. So there is some bases for vehicles in genshin just not powered by and engine and fuel but by the elements.
We have had no vehicles in Genshin. Meanwhile the climax of Fontaine happened complete with submersible flying boat.Given that, what is the problem with a flying gun or motorcycle? People are too narrow minded. There are lots of merchant horse carts scattered about too. Lets not even get into the mining bots in Fontaine, what is the difference between a motorized unicycle automaton and a motorcycle? Edit: Totally forgot the flower carriage that Nahida was taken away in ~500 years ago....
@@chanxtian8864 "Really, a theater girl for an archon?" "Really, a Shogun for an Archon?" "Really, a bard for an Archon?" "Really, a dude in a suit for an Archon?"
Why is it that Mavuika, Xilonen and Chasca are the only people in all of Natlan with access to this modern tech? Everyone else is riding animals. It doesn't fit into the world they created, and THAT'S the problem.
@@CountMonsparkle Because Xilonen literally crafted it for them? And define modern? The state of technology in Russia and Japan is not the same either, yet it belongs to the same planet.
Was happy for a moment when you mentioned Ganyu. I've had her since her first banner but she's hardly been used over the years as there's almost always better teams.
War pushes for new technology to be made, so its not surprising she has a motorcycle. Xianyun also told us she has one. Side note: Mavuika should be good with Lyney, bcs Lyney wants pyro teammates that are supports.
I don't really find the bike weird. There have been hints in Teyvat of contact with modern worlds. You can in fact see a car when Furina activates her burst. Other things that come to mind are Xinyan's rock aesthetic, or the yae publishing manga. We learn that the sky is fake, while outlanders like Alice allude to visiting advanced worlds. The Fatui being so advanced while in Mondstat always seemed sus. Teyvat is intentionally an incoherent fantasy world, because it is fake. Each region has an identity and Natlan is modern as an antidote to a streyotypical tribal society.
it makes sense in lore, you're not wrong, but I wish there was more synergy is all. the environment and the tribe home locations feel very tribal, but if there were more pieces of modern tech specifically around natlan, I'd be so much more down. I'd also be more down if this wasn't right on the tail of fontaine, which iirc, was explicitly stated to be the most technologically advanced of the nations. chlorinde having pistols and wrio having rocket gauntlets absolutely worked in fontaine, because fontaine as a whole had a lot of tech in the cities (think of all the gardemeks walking around, the massive press thing at the blacksmith there, and the more modern materials of the more advanced architecture). the tech also worked in sumeru despite its less modern visual style because the tech was flavored as a whole lot of magic (we didn't see an airpod earpiece type thing for the akasha for example, it was a swirl of glowing green magic at the ear). genshin has shown us plenty of tech things in the past and had it work in the world, idk why they fumbled so hard with it in natlan when they've already done this so many times before if natlan wanted to stick to the more basic and earthy style of architecture, I just really wish the tech followed a similar aesthetic. for example, the bike was carved from stone and has glowing red/orange runes on it that seem to make the bike work I think that's the disconnect people are having. I didn't like xilonen busting out a dj table for her burst/idles or really the entirety of ajaw's pixelated design and kinich's gamer themes because they just.... don't fit with natlan's aesthetic. the characters don't feel coherent with their own home. clorinde and chevreuse and wriothesley all felt like they fit in fontaine despite the more modern-feeling tech because fontaine as a whole had more modern-feeling tech - I wish I could say the same for xilonen and kinich and mauvuika and even chasca (much as I love her)
@lunaredelvour2972 Yeah the problem is the game doesn't properly address this. There are hints of people in Nathan being somewhat against technology. Nathan has an emphasis of preserving tradition and culture. However Chasca in her story quest brings up how mobility in the nation could be so much better if they adopted technology. I guess it could also show how vision holders are essentially the ambitions that let them rise above the confines that normal people face.
@@GamerTv-yx9fy I dint care about their life spam or anything, I don't follow meta, I play whoever I like. If a 4yo dps is still relevant, then this lifespan logic doesn't applies here + this is genshin not stairail, that with every new patch the old units becomes unusable
the motorbike really puts me off. It breaks immersion into the world of the game. It's like the developers though "hey .. the kids like motorbikes. Lets throw one of those in there". Totally frivolous decision (nb: we do already have a vehicle of sorts .. that thing Kachina rides around on)
Agreed with the Natlan modern tech, don't think it really goes with the rest of game. It's all very pretty and well designed, but does feel out of place. Also nothing on the Pyro Traveller? Is it just so likely to be meh that no one cares?
I have a pretty open mind plus I'm a huge anime guy so seeing characters flying on giant guns or characters riding motorcycles isn't all that crazy to me at all. Besides, although we haven't seen them, Vehicles exist in Genshin. Cloud Retainer created one to race Mountain Shaper. Apparently it was very fast but struggled going over the Rocky mountain terrain.
ok guys hear me out, she's the first archon who increase crit or crit damage upon ascension it means we finally have a DPS archon, well other archons can be dps but still this one is like build really for dps. If mavuika powercreep other pyro characters because as I can see on test server with broken support and at c0r1 she can deal a lot of damage 🤣 is it finally the time for my knave to retire? I mean I'm tired of dodging everything because I cant heal my pyro dps (I don't have zhongli) . If she's that broken I will pull for her, if not then I will guve father constellation 2 or 3 depends on my luck. Goodluck guys
people: Why a Motorcycle?! It's doesn't fit with the game. Literally Genshin: go fight every week with a fucking evangelion's robot used by a angry puppet kid.
@@AlexMtzRock Yeah, ikr. These kind of people are having a beef with Natlan ever since its release and just need to find the silliest excuse to justify their personal grudge.
@@kevinclement1533What personal grudge? I was hyped up for Mavuika but seing this motorcycle... Bruh. I might end up not wishing for her. It's too ridiculous
Akasha was a magical internet, but they still exist outside of the characters we pull for, Mavuika fighting by running shit over with a bike is just dumb. Why did she bother fighting Kapitano as an actual badass warrior, when her gameplay loop revolves around spinning on a bike.
@@fibiko984yeah just a hater ever since natlan most you are on the hate train because natlan characters are not black and doesn't fit your agenda. Thank god your just a minority and mihoyo dont listen to people like you.
We have flying mechanical dragon looking enemies but a motorcycle is now making people question how is this possible in genshin? Wowww the duality is insane🤣🤣 people forget that Khaenri'ah was living in the future..!!!!
I really hope they buff her support and buffing capabilities (more pyro application, more dmg bonus or atk bonus) even if it means nerfing her dps power We have enough pyro carries as it is
Bruhh😂😂😂🤣🤣the copiiiuummm is really.Dude she is nowhere near Arlecchino's dps potential and dont get me started on how fucked up her team restrictions are.🤣🤣
@@GamerTv-yx9fyyes she is no where near arlecchino she is way better, you can cope all you want but her bike CA is wayyyy too strong currently, it doesnt even feel real seeing the multipliers for a c0 character
I am so tired of seeing people say how stupid the motorcycle was, the design is theme like and the attack cool, people always talking how its too modern when we literaly fight a gundam and an anti gravity mecha, saying that it doesnt match the traditional theme, but never thinking that just because they have a tradional life doesnt mean they way of thinking and technology need to be backward to, i can also say that nevuelite charge attack animation are just lazy and stupid, but you i didnt say it everytime i see him on screen because i know theres people who like it and its only from my perspective
The motorcycle (kind of) technically has a very logical explanation. Due to phlogiston and the tendencies it has, It can be used to morph into any type of weapon or object. This is most likely how Mavuika was able to obtain a motorcycle by manipulating phlogiston, because it’s practical for exploring and going through Natlan, and is also able to fight (run people over)
Peak design. Many mad people that there's a shiny new character that makes them no longer look like the coolest kid on the block. Just pull instead of using your samey 4 year old Genshin Circle characters. Change is good. Different designs are good.
@@damousx6860 fun for you and others maybe. But in the grander scheme of things, a motorbike killing Celestia gods by hopping like a rabbit with the motorbike is just a clown show. It's something only an 8 yr old that still has a big shock factor can appreciate
The bike is the most awesome thing I've seen in this game, i just love it so much cause it reminds me of Dante from Devil May Cry, can't wait to play with it
I don't mind the bike. Considering Xilonen was able to make roller-skates that can GO UP WALLS, a motorbike is not that out of the questing. Like, I don't think people understand how insane those skates are. In order for them to go up walls the way they do they basically need to be motor powered already. If she can create some sort of phlogiston powered motor that small she can create one for a regular sized bike. Also she's still in beta so I'm hoping they lower the application just a little. I so wanna use her with Ganyu and 2 sec is just on the cusp of always melting comfortably.
That come from an ancient dead civilization. With plenty of lore behind them, and they all look ancient and rusted too. Not this absolute bullshit. Where did Xilonen get the knowledge to craft a synthesizer from? That shit is the cumulation of thousands of years of Music and tech innovation? Always cracks me up how y'all keep defending this trash. Natlan killed the last interest I had in this mismanaged game. On a side note, can't wait for Da-Wei to cry again on stream. That shit was so hilarious! Just sums up the Mihoyo community perfectly. Just drop, roll and cry rather then.... Improving your game?
The problem is not technology, but style. Fontaine’s mechs looks good cuz they add to the steampunkish aesthetic of the region for example. Natlan has tribes, houses built of clay and then suddenly a huge flying gun and a motorcycle that feels like it’s straight outta HSR. I’ve seen a video of Mavuika riding her bike in Inazuma and it feels so weird, like a Skyrim mod
@@zealgaming8161 lol we have plenty of technology in teyvat. Fontaine literally has an army of advanced autonomous robots who shoot missiles. Liuye has a freaking castle in sky, Fontaine has machine that turn off gravit, Humanoid puppets like kathrine, wanderer and machine gods like scara and Shogun exist and for some reason you can't stand a bike in thee. Lol .... Fontaine was even more advanced before their research institute got blown sky high. You can't complain about advanced technology in teyvat. However I can see that sports bike break the feel of fantasy in game earlier they used to implement technology in such a way that got the job done but didn't break the feel of fantasy now they are getting out of the fantasy journey and entering si-fi stuff..
Whelp so much for hoping she rode a dragon. I really wanted her to be a dragon rider. I guess Nuev and Yanfei will be my favorite dps until the end times. And Yanfei is a dragon and no one can change my mind.
The bike ruined this character for me, I ain't pulling even if she's the most broken thing in the game. Especially since I wanted her just and only for Mualani vape and she can't even supoort double hydro so it's it's like pulling an archon to just get a worse Xiangling😔feels like ass I am mad AND dissapointed.
Dps characters are usually powercrept in time, so I find it weird that they gave her that role. Especially because outside of that it seems her only speciality is 2s pyro off-field app. and be a BIS Natlan teammate. Hell, without Natlan teammates, she'll probably won't reach her full potential which can be really limiting for players who don't like the other Natlan charas... Maybe constellations will enable more teams? I'm curious...
Jello, you said it would make more sense for Mauvika to be riding a dragon, not a motorcycle with that outfit. Take another look at the motorcycle. It looks like a dragon. Because of course this is Natlan!
I was hoping we'll finally get a good pyro off-field application 100% uptime with their skill itself but it seems she's made to be a dps for the most part, her application only apply pyro every 2s, wish they would make her more consistent as support too
@@chanxtian8864 so we're just gonna ignore the SUMERUS INTERNET, SUMERUS HOLOGRAPHS, XINYANS MOTORCYCLE, FONTAINS ROBOTS, and genshin NEVER stated that it was medieval based lmao you guys are onto something and I don't want NONE of it
Dudes, we have a rideable drill, cat box car, rideable shark, giant flying gun, and SPIDER-MAN. Don't think a motorcycle is any reason to skip out on an archon. Imagine if people skipped Nuevi just cus his idle involved drinking water . Would be a crying shame
I mean both are main DPS not supports so yeah if people think it looks weird thats a fine reason to skip. Especially for Mavuika because by this point most people have multiple Pyro main DPS already.
They goofy Bike isn't even half the problem. No one asked for another Pyro DPS. Her entire kit is objectively terrible game design and a backwards step for Genshin. Devs are out of touch.
I honestly dont care about mavuika no matter how good she may be because I just got a 36.5% crit dmg pyro goblet on set for my f2p c1 arlecchino who now has 204.2% crit dmg and 80.5% crit rate with r5 white tassel so Im saving for arlecchinos weapon first and c2 arle or mavuika second.
Raiden's teamwide elemental burst damage buff is actually just from having her skill active, so the comparison between her and mavuika (in terms of being able to provide at least some of her buffing from off field) is actually closer. Raiden still needs to on field to battery the team but her actual damage buffing isn't tied to burst at all
I swear narrow-minded people need to shut up and stop complaining about the motorcycle because ITS NOT that out of place because of xilonen, what IS weird though is a freaking FLYING GUN. Also mavuika NEEDS to be a main DPS because she's the FREAKING GOD OF WAR, it would make NO damn sense for her to be a support
Someone in the comments mentioned that if a 4 year old Pyro dps is still relevant today (HuTao) , so will Mavuika, and I actually like that argument. And I personally think it's a breath of fresh air that an archon is not merely a support, BUT I get where people are coming from when they say they expected a Bennett/Xiangling replacement. And come on you really can't say the bike doesn't look out of place...
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They should leave all these mechanics to Nathan alone. They should not bring it to other regions of future, bike is absolutely no to me. People who are happy about bike might like capitano coming in helicopter ? wtf bro!
i want her so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh aaahhhhhhhh haha
Yeah I agree Mavuika looks hot, but that helmet and motorbike does not fit in Genshin. Too IRL looking for me and ruins the escapism of fantasy game.
I want mavuika so badly and she badass 100% must pull Incase you need a badass archon and biker
Big guns, big motorcycles, and hot weather? Natlan is Florida
Don't forget panther and reptile
hahahah this comment is underrated
Sounds more like Arizona to me
And no "Florida man" yet
"Um actually ☝🤓" it would be Arizona cuz Florida is the flattest state in the US
waiting for Tsaritsa driving a pink flying missile tank
Well, considered that Snezhnaya is based on a Russian speaking country with modern technology comparable to Fontaine, I wouldn’t be surprise if Tsaritsa ride an inter-continental ballistic missile (ICBM).
Koyanskaya reference?
Need her to ride F22
embarrasing uh?.. i have no idea how can people like this trash in a game like Genshin..
The characters looks amazing, but totally out of place, its like putting a laser rifle in a game of magic and swords.. just ugly.
People say but Genshin has "guns" and they totally miss the point what we're talking about.
@@WastedTalent83Khaenri’ah’s technology is way ahead of it. I’m not sure if you are even familiar with Diesel punk or steam punk fiction where these advanced techs are integrated in 19th and 20th century. Also Phlogiston has been repeatedly spoon fed to us to be the source of these Natlan energy. Phlogiston + Khaenri’ah’s tech designs. I bet when Snezhnaya arrives with way more advanced tech, I’ll see more of you in the comments spreading hate with it.
Bro doesn't do leaks but proceeds to predict her entire kit
He probably only gaf during the early access stuff. Just a guess
she is available on beta test servers, so it's not quite leaks
@vladys001 Beta test is supposed to be private, they're literally leaks.
😂
I’ve seen him appear on Jstern’s streams multiple times even while he discussing character leaks. He knows
i have to agree that natlan characters put me off in the one regard that they have such extremely modern elements to them, xilonen being a dj which has nothing to do with her character or job? Mavuika with the motorbike for no reason related to the story? This is just the rule of cool and that's a problem
Exactly. When you look at the rest of Natlan, there is no sign at all of this modern tech, it's literally only with the player characters. Completely out of place and immersion breaking imo.
You guys do realize that Teyvat used to be extremely Technologically Advanced before the War and it was destroyed.
Mavuika literally came from 500 years ago and the Natlan characters are using Knowledge & Weapons of Ancient Heroes of the Past.
Scaramoushe was inside a Giant Gundam, The Traveler was inside a Giant Robot, the people of Sumeru were not using any Mechs but a Motorcycle & a Flying Gun is Crazy???
@@OmenLamb As OP mentioned, the issue is not that these things exist. It's just that these things exist ONLY for playable characters inside their kit and not in the story otherwise at all. Like, c'mon, they should have shown Mauvika riding on her bike while fighting Capitano if that's seriously how she fights. Let Xilonen be a DJ and make that part of the story, I reckon that less people are going to complain if these things are integrated in the world and explained through the story/lore rather than just putting in their kit randomly.
The giant mechas, flying robots , flying airships, lasers , cameras , missiles, digital panels in the world are ignored now? Genshin aways had a mix of old and futuristic look
@@ageofdragonz3684 The story literally revealed she was holding back against him, Mavuika literally said it straight from her mouth.
The weapons they have are from Ancient Technology, they have Ancient Heroes inside their head, their Weapons are Ancient Weapons.
Why does she have to DJ?
Did Chloride & Chev need to be a Gunsmiths to explain them having guns?
Did Scaramoushe have to be a Scientist & Mechanic to explain him riding a Gundam?
The Raiden Shogun created two Super AI Puppets more Technology Advanced that ANYTHING IN TEYVAT but looks at Inazuma.
Please, NOT another pyro on-fielder... we don't need a 3095th one...
cry me a river
@@vergilpraiser8442 Shut up.
@@vergilpraiser8442 Bootlicker
@vergilpraiser8442 I'm sick and tired of Xianling bro... so tired...
@@vergilpraiser8442 Don't forget to clean up once you're done riding Hoyo.
Natlan's Vibe and Aesthetic: "Random bullshit go!"
Honestly, that kinda fits the latam vibe (I'm from latam)
Aka lazy writing
Community: It's time to go.
Xiangling: Was I a good off field pyro dps?
Community: No.
Community: I'm told you were the best.
Nah... i personally don't use Xiangling but the metaslaves will never stop using her because she was just badly designed and has no icd for some reason.
The main reason Mavuika offield is good is because it's just a skill so i don't have to warp the team around funneling energy into pyronadoling
Reality:
Xiangling: My time has come.
Community: *Grabs Xiangling* No, it is not.
Community: *Throws xiangling into Abyss* There is a second team
Xiangling: PLS LET ME REST
@@bencegergohocz5988that doesn't take xiangling off of that spot lol
@@bencegergohocz5988You can rant all you want but it still wont change the fact that Xiangling still does a better job on what she does compared to Mavuika. When you do a comparison between c6 Xiangling and c0 Mavuika
Mavuika skill have a 15s cd and applies pyro six time once every 2s after you cast her skill and before her nightsould pts is consumed and has 3s uptime. While Xiangling’s pyronado applies pyro once every 1s-0.5s for 14s and has 6s uptime
If both is compared in the span of 20s which by then Mavuika could recast her skill. Pyronado still deals more dmg then Mavuika skills depending on how you maneuver the Pyronado
Mavuika passive which give 50% dmg bonus has a normal multiplier so its basically the same as Baizhu passive multiplier. It does not give a lot of dmg bonus then you expected
The only reason why Mavuika support role is better then Xiangling is because of the Hero Cinder City set.
Mavuika will not be a replacement for Xiangling. She is far more on fied oriented, Xiangling is just the better Sub-DPS still
We have a giant flying gun now. A motorcycle isn't a big deal anymore.
Well you haven't seen a motorcycle that can fly😂.
It never was since Cloud retainer already invented motorcycles and Natlan is full of “modern” technology
Khaenriah actually creating robot 500 years ago in Tevyat, yall just not read Genshin world isn't primitive since the start
Wait until you see what else it can do
@@Nuklett she legit made a chatGTP cooking pot..
Better call Yanfei cuz she'll roadkill every small creature within a 10 mile radius.
You can already run small creatures over with Sayu.
“Entity timed out and disappeared”
This is the only account that explains characters in a way my brain can understanding lol. The idea of a dual dps meta is actually really exciting.
Seeing her bike in the splash art was surprising cuz there was no mention of it in the main quest. They could've have at least shown it during the quest covered under a tarp or had Mauvika making a passing comment on it.
Her outfit was a dead give away....
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlame So? An outfit is just an outfit. It’s a visual hint, but there is no world building in Natlan set up for any vehicles for anything other than wooden carts and hot air balloons. At least with the starter playable characters, we saw NPCs fighting with similar tech as them to integrate abilities. It’s valid to say that her bike came out of nowhere and could have at least been shown. Especially during the war act.
Perhaps we'll get to know some lore about the motorcycle in 5.3
I'll pass. It should have been a fire breathing dragon, not a motorcycle.
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Thanks for finally covering pre-releases, very insightful as usual :) I wish hoyo could allow downgrading constellations so you can cover more c1/c2 content
thank you~~
While I understand most people's problem with the motorcycle because it doesn't seem normal with the culture and tech of Tevyat, and I get that but I love the new trend of Genshin actually giving characters new weapons since Fontaine. Wriothesley has Gauntlets, Neuvi has Hydro Pump(and a cane), Navia has a shotgun umbrella, Chlorinde has a Pistollette and Sword, Mualani has an inflatable shark, Kinich has an 8 bit dragon cannon, and Chasca has a flying gun.
I for one am stoked about seeing something unique, because Genshin's formula is getting repetetive for the entire gameplay loop, so the characters being new is very exciting.
But Fontaine characters meet the aesthetics of steampunk style with the city itself, where Natlan as major cities are made of clay but they have 8-bit dragon, a flying shotgun and a motorbike, Mualani and Kachina are way better and fit NATLAN but after that...genshin trying way too hard
After WUWA movement system Genshin is pushing it so hard that it is FORCED, in Genshin explorer characters were unique but now every natlan characters have implemented in them.
@@lowendplayer4259 okay but like this is just completely wrong lol. these characters were made a long time before wuwa came out, people really need to understand how long these things take to make.
its not Exiting in general, its exiting for you ,ugly and out of place for me... And im not talking about characters having "alternative" weapons, but ugly huge out of place shit.
Look at Maulani, perfecly fine, in tune fantasy oriented, same with Kinich, kachina same, Xilonen.. trash, using a moden DJ console.. rollerblade? -.- same with chaska, ugly as hell, way too big, way too flashy, it makes all other characters look like inferior shit, that its not really nice, and mavuika follow the same principle its not like she has a "in theme" bike, made of stone fantasy etc.. she has a fucking 2024 sport bike model WITH modern style helmet, its just out of place.
Looking good? sure they look cool as fuck , just NOT in this game tho. In star rail would be ok, in wuwa too.. we player for 4 years, with "magical/medieval" weapons and magic style.. and now all of a sudden MODERN WORLD shit? No that's just ugly.
@@LauraLovesHugs The timing of WuWa aside, the rest of their critique stands regarding why there is in the very least a perceived clash
I can accept it lore-wise, but just find the animation to be janky and silly looking. Past characters generally have more smoothe and fluid burst animations, but Mauvika’s motorcycle boisterously jumps across the screen. Instead of an elegant goddess performing some cool movement, her animation is simply jarring, imo.
I was saving for her for almost a year, but now plan on skipping her because of how little I like her animations 😅
I cant wait to pull for her 90% damage bonus off field with cinder city and a powercreep Pyro Dps and A MOTERCYCLE say no more.
from what i saw from the chinese leaks they're saying it would be around 25%-50% damage bonus. not 100%. and it will be a sliding scale based on how many nightsoul points you spend up to 200. she can burn up 110 all by herself. meaning xilonen who can burn 90 in about 2 seconds of field time will be wedded to her hip.
the problem is the pyro archon is apparently an attack scaler. meaning she's fucking wedded to bennett too. no clue if her off field dps will snapshot or not. but it's looking like her best team will be bennett, furina, xilonen. so this doesn't sound like a "game changer". i'd personally prefer it if you could at least replace bennett on teams with her. but with her damage effect tied to nightsoul points spent, they've pigeonholed her into the current meta, not created a new meta. her best support team will probably be mualani, furina and xilonen.
i love her design. but... the rumors don't look amazing. i hope they rework her.
@arizona_anime_fan no like the current beta says otherwise. Her burst and skill has the highest multiplier in the whole game more than Neuvillette's CA and Mualani's Burst who had the most multiplier before. And getting her full buff Is not that hard and i highly doubt u need both Bennet and Furina with her. I think her BIS team will be Mavuika Xilonen Citlali and Bennet becoz the damage bonus she provides will be enough to ignore Furina in her teams. She needs to be nerf or she'll be a game changer better than any Pyro dps's in the game. Another Neuvillette case.
@@arizona_anime_fanDO NOT FORGET THE SCROLL SET
Piss poor AOE for off field. Xiangling is still better
@@chanxtian8864 bro are u born to spread hate. Every comment I've seen of yours on this channel spreads hate. Get a life man, get a job, go outside and touch some grass. Ur not forced to play Genshin chill
I agree with everyone's explanation why motorbike in Teyvat is okay, but it looks so bad. How every other archon can be so simple and cool, but Mauvika needs that silly motorbike :D ... she was so much better in cutscenes.. I don't want to ride bike everytime I have to fight..
The Motorcycle is too much. Its surprisingly more jarring than Chasca's flying gun
People comparing the ruin guardians and whatever to the motorcycle saying it's the same... NO, one is fantasy world material while the other look like it was taken from a cyberpunk/modern story and pasted in genshin because somebody wanted to
>Wanderer and shogun
>Cloud retainer having a microwave in her idle animation and made a motorcycle before (said in her story quest)
Aesthetic wise yh the complaints make sense but it's not THAT out of place function wise
@@Whoisyou123 I mean the puppet thing with wanderer is totally fine in a fantasy world. In the other hand if they add hummers (or ladas🤣) in snezhnaya and claim "it's because the cloud retainer maid it" it would be terrible design even if they give some form of excuse to why it exists
@@fdsgfsdggsdfgfsdg2152 well i guess that makes sense but it personally doesn't bother me, hell my favourite anime is random bs go (one piece and gintama) so maybe it has rubbed off on me😂
Either ppl love or hate this motorbike lol, i personally love it
same, i think it complements mavuika's badass side
Just don't like how she attacks with it. Such a waste.
@@zeckrincuff3159 it's another référence to DMC btw
I would be fine if it was just for exploration, but she attacking on top of it is just ass IMO, to each their own...
I hate it. Chasca's gun also weirded me out but i accepted it. The byke tho? I can't accept it. Maybe it's because of how goofy it looks in battle. Maybe it's colour. Maybe i hate that she is wearing a helmet. Idk. But something just does not feel right. Sigh.
Her curves alone is worth it
true 💯
Gooner behavior
I can hear the screaming TikTok comments „SeXuAlIsEd!!!1!1!11!!11!“ 😂
Lmao
True, but that motorbike is ugly af
I'm not 100% sure but she will probably be the first archon I skip.
I don't understand why they did that to her.
Hoyo's worst game design in so many ways with her. I've never seen them drop the ball so hard.
@@shinobu1886 and her kit is a nightmare. without natlan characters in the team she's pretty much useless and would need like 34 auto attacks to get 100 points for her ult. and her skill isn't that good either, which is a shame bc i thought she would powercreep bennett, dehya and xiangling. but she's just a slightly better xiangling, not worth it to pull for her and build her for a small dmg increase. also, ANOTHER PYRO DPS? i'm so tired
you’ll probably crave and pull her, probably. It’s more of the experience in playstyle and her animations and fighting style are just fun to play with. I mean she can fly, drive in water and ride around i for one am very excited.
did WHAT to her? wtf are you tlking about?
@@nicaise4402 of course she is not useless, you are completely wrong, Mavuika's own Nightsoul points count towards the 100 points, so she only needs about 12 NA to reach 100 points, and her skill is great, being able to apply pyro to multiple targets while off-field, she applies enough to many teams with the exception of a few, and she also buffs on-field char dmg after burst, even in her current state she is already an incredible character even as a subdps, you don't know what you are talking about just like a lot of people out there who are doomposting her without even knowing how her kit actually works.
Fun fact, motorcycles already exist in genshin lore, created by Cloud Retainer and powered by adepti energy, it makes sense that a bike powered by flogiston would work since for technological devices shows to work amazingly (just look at Xilonen). There would be more vehicles outside Natlan, but flogiston doesn’t last longo outside of that land.
and when do wee see this bike you're talking about made by cloud retainer? please show me ANY image.. and not just "text" Because talking about something and actually having it in game looking ugly as fuck are 2 VERY different things.
Very good points and connection back to Cloud Retainer, great reminder about technological capabilities (yet as others raised, while some things may be in lore, they are not evident or have not been realized so its difficult to truly claim these as genuinely existing except in say the theoretical diagrams of Xianyun)
I think many of use who have criticisms about the bike perhaps fall into either one or both of these categories (but not wishing to speak for everyone so maybe people have other reasons too):
First, 1) preference in aesthetics and/or disappointment in expectations, which is our own biases and hopes that we need to contend with.
Second, but primarily a complaint I see constantly dismissed and invalidated which does not seem fair and I believe this is a warranted critique of the game direction/developmental execution of it on a conceptual basis: 2) those who are critiquing the technology acceleration, at least to me, are not denying that there are technological aspects or advancements throughout Teyvat (i.e., Fontaine is the epitome of this fact yet most do not hold such disdain for the technology at play, in large part due to its seamless integration with the theme and consistency throughout the experience of the entire region) but rather it is a critique specifically to Natlan as the technology integration is not on par in a logically consistent manner, is far too subtle/underdeveloped, or at least could and should have been more incorporated throughout the Tribes (i.e., anthropological observations in customs, tools, ways of life, architecture, etc surmising largely of stone/wood tools, decor, huts, etc that denote the technological stage of the region, which does not match the simultaneous existence of say Kinich's digital dynamics, Chasca's gigantic and bizarre gun design, Xilonen's rave/disco components, and of course, the lady of the hour, Mavuika's highly modern motorcycle). Phlogiston exists and there are some technological devices even in Natlan (more of the remnants of the former dragon age) but it is largely absent and not visible in the daily lives of the Tribespeople and the stage is very nearly preindustrial at scale to such a degree that it makes such components hard to believe as natural instead of viewing it as an immersion breaking, non-cohesive distraction. But that's my perspective on the matter, sorry I got going, a bit longer than intended!
Perhaps worthwhile to consider? I for one have my complaints largely due to the issues raised above but my argument isn't claiming that there is no technology in Teyvet, its these other integrations that make this new modern direction feel like it clashes with the essence of Genshin. Thank you for your distinction though regarding Liyue and the adepti specifically and hope this was at least an interesting/well received response!
Where is the source for this? I hope you're not lying just to prove a point
It doesn't look ugly. Far from it. @@WastedTalent83
@@WastedTalent83 it doesnt look ugly af
Next Archon gonna have a machine gun, a mechsuit, and a smart phone LOL
May be Rocket 🚀 will use next Arhont
i wish other people would stop sucking this company ass, and see how bad things are with Natlan, they are just out of place... by a huge margin
and thts better 😂
At which point its just officially Star Rail lol
Overwatch D.va
Im thinking of pulling for arlecchino, but getting power creeped before your 1st rerun is crazy 😭.
Imagine ganyu, shenhe, mauvika, and xilonen for a melt ganyu team that would be insanely fun holy shit im so excited
No bennett for ganyu would be ew
I personally dont like the motorcycle innn this game. So also feel put off. It will really depend on how she plays. I also loved Chasca initially but the gameplay and riding a gun really put me off. Such a bummer. I might just keep saving for a next character.
Exactly how I feel.
I loved Chascas design, but decided to delay pulling her bc of the ridiculous gun she's riding and go for other characters on my list first. I don't love her character enough to pull her immediatly and ignore this.
Mavuika is the same. I feared she'd get one bc of the outfit they have chosen for her. That felt of already. Now she indeed got the BotW Link treatmeant (or Himeko if you want) - motocycle...nay.
However, I like her character more. Might still not be enough for me to pull her on her first banner, but at least she has better chances than Chasca...
[Sidenote: Most characters I pull are who I like, not who is meta or strong. If both match, yay, if not, idc.]
A motorcycle put you off but actual AI automatons and Wriothesly's flying submarine were aok.....ok
@@logikx1325 that was in Fontaine, THE techno nation. compare that to Natlan's tribal state.
@@_Kettenkratnatlan is on top of the highest life forms in teyvat, dragons. Their civilization had the ultimate tech in teyvat. Natlan is in constant war which propels innovation faster. I'm sure no one would try to reverse engineer a civilization that was in the height of technology.
@@Balbaneth dinosaurs, tribes and technology still dont fit.
The breath of the wild references are coming back now lmao
The bike nor being Medieval is the problem, the problem is that Natlan does not provide any context for this kind of technology to exist. All of Natlan is basically the boonies then we suddenly have a Ducati Diavel 1260. It's out of place. Ancient Teyvat is not current day Natlan, they dont even understand Ancient Natlan Dragon tech. The bike/flying gun/Roller blades would've been more coherent had the nation provided better representation of structural accommodation for said current day tech; there is no real sign of advanced phlogiston tech in common use by the rest of the nation, no Phligiston workshops and engineers(no, not name engravers/not blacksmiths either), no roads for a bike. People still use hand drawn carriages and live in mud huts. Place the bike in the chasms of the Children of Echoes, atop the wooden platforms of the Scions, the Shamans within the caves of the Night wind. Does it feel consistent? I bet that that they are going chalk it up to Xilonen engineering a high performance magical bike.
Powercreeping Arlecchino before her first rerun is crazy work. Pleaseeeeee just replace Bennett and/or Xiangling
Yeah I hard doubt they are gonna do that, especially considering she hasn't even had a rerun yet and is one of the most popular characters, they would very much be shooting themselves in the foot with that
Right now she’s projected to be 25% better than a well-built Arle
@@sarahracicot2299 even for an Archon that's pretty wild isn't it?
I think the boycott should start now for real , patch 5.3 will be my last
@Tufis-WuWa
I have a bad news for you, don't start calculating Furina vs Yelan/waterboy difference.
Or Nahida vs other dendro(even 2 combined in some cases).
25% is nothing and she can easily be nerfed to 10-15%.
(Leak Talk)
I know the motorcycle catches people off guard, but if you watch closely during the gameplay, the bike’s special fire effects actually make up a dragon (very clearly) so I think it’s a really cool way to make her ride both a motorcycle and a dragon which I know is what people originally wanted! it’s a pretty genius decision IMO.
I think people who hate the bike would just like it to be... a dragon-dragon, yanno
The bike honestly doesn't fit Natlan, sticks out like a sore thumb. It would make sense if other people in the nation had it so it wouldn't be weird
@@Szczurzyslawano people wanted a DBZ inspired flying badass warrior and got a ghost rider from Walmart
people hate bike actually forget Human creating Robot 500 years ago, we see Giant flying ship in Fontaine, in summer update have rollercoaster and flying train
@@di8085 Natlan just sticks out like a sore thumb compared to the other nations. Chasca with a flying gun, DJ Xilonen, Biker Mavuika, etc... I think it's cool but it's really out of place. As long as this stuff sticks to Natlan and the Tsaritsa isn't running around with a tank or helicopter i'm ok with it lol
If they keep adding vehicles then Capitano might aswell use a Boeing 747 or smth
The most broken characters together? Furina and Xilonen with Mavuika and a flex on one side and Xiangling on the other side with her usual partners in crime, She's never retiring!
Oh and I love the motorcycle! 5ds/DMC fan lol. Not to mention, I like to go fast.
I'd hate to skip an Archon and ruin my Archon collection but the last thing we need is another Pyro On-field DPS. This will go down as one of the biggest disappointments in the game.
* Terrible kit that is the opposite of what we need. We needed our first dedicated 5 star Pyro off-fielder, not another on fielder.
* Not only is she mid off-field, but what's worse is her DPS is just OP af, why on Earth would we powercreep Arlecchino, who has already slightly powercrept the rest of the Pyro DPS's? Not to Mention Arlecchino is 10x more interesting and better written. This is purely bad game design on both end.
* One of the least interesting Archons story-wise with the least personality. The only thing keeping her interesting at all is cool fight scenes and she's kinda hot.
* And to top it all off that Goofy ah motorbike doesn't do her favours. But hey, she'll have the best mobility in overworld so most casuals will just care about that.
Citlali is more interesting. Both gameplay, design and story, might just skip for her instead.
Rumours say, pyro traveler might be an off-field pyro applicator...
Same. I’ve been collecting them since I started in October 2022. Even pulled Venti years late for collecting. Trying to remember that a year ago, I thought I wouldn’t get Furina because she annoyed me in the story and now I love her. But unless something turns around with this kit, might be the end of collecting for me
Here's my idea:
*Mavuika, the Pyro Archon* :
*Skill* : Upon activation, Mavuika transforms into a dragon rider, soaring swiftly and high above the overworld while riding her flaming dragon. If the hold skill is done, she doesn't ride the dragon. Instead, massive dragon wings materialize on her back. These wings flap at timed intervals, dealing Pyro damage over a set duration. During this state, her normal and charged attacks are infused with Pyro. If the player switches characters, the wings remain active, continuing to deal off-field Pyro damage at regular intervals.
*Burst* : Her special 5-star animation begins with a cinematic where the dragon roars from deep within a volcano. A colossal Pyro attack erupts from the ground, as though breaking through the surface of a volcanic eruption, unleashing a massive AoE Pyro burst on enemies within a wide radius, dealing significant damage.
Is this too much to ask for?
Stop saying this now I'm more disappointed after reading your idea 😶
Oddly yes it is too much due to dragon and archon working together. Each time it seems to create a big mess that either MC has to fix or a ruined society that MC discovers.
If you replaced all the dragon references with “legally not a dragon” it would work 😂
How do we make this reach the Chinese Genshin players!? Haha
Sounds boring
I agree with the motorcycle and giant flying gun... I know we have advanced tech like ruin guards and even muskets and such but idk something about it just kind of bothers me. Can't deny the motorcycle is cool though even if I was hoping for a dragon.
Enjoying your videos - lots of good info with great considerations to take!
Motorcycle before horses is weird, is supposed to be a late medieval, early industrial game.
Said who?
That's for teyvat current era, but in the dragon era, technology more advanced. (It's canon from world quest) king deshret era also had advanced technology
...have you even paid attention?
Did you play the sumeru archon quest? I dont want to spoil it but there's alot of future sci-fi stuff in it
Well there are giant robots but they are mostly lost tech.
Natalan feels like it was designed by a different team for a different game.
Feels like they couldn't figure out a real world inspiration beyond a few names so they just said screw it and went with a shopping mall.
It’s like if Wakanda didn’t have a massive city but instead a bunch of stone houses, yet still having all of that advanced technology lying around. Take Fontaine for example, for the longest time Fontaine had always been implied to be at the forefront of tech, so when we see mechas and guns it didn’t feel out of place (the steampunk style also helps).
Fontain had robots and other mechanical things but that didn't clash with its region as much as natlan does with its chr unic gadgets
I wanted an armored horse. Would've been cooler imo.
a phlogiston powered motorcycle is completely believable when you remember hydro/indemnitium powered flying ships in Fontaine, and then giant Gundan robot we fight in Sumeru, why people just assumed Natlan wouldn’t have any advanced technology being a constant nation of war is crazy
Natlan in essence is very similar to Wakanda.
Main problem, sumeru has dendro archon, wisdom of teyvet and one and only academy to graduate.
Fontaine known for their tech.
Also,both nation share tech with their people(Akasha and robot, newspaper etc),but natlan .. everything feels monopolised, atleast show a world quest of a vehicle research centre where flying revolver and bikes prototype are being made.Just need the base to prove their existence.
What Fontain has is thematic coherency. The entirety of Fonatain was built around the steampunk theme with giant research institute with generations of research, the technology reflects in their architectural structures, their attires, their customs and you see wide spread common use of the Pneuma-Ousia tech throughout the nation, it's heavily incorporated in the entire story. Natlan did not built a floor to accommodate such an advanced item, instead it was probably some girl on roller skates who magically pulled it out of ass.
Maybe because all of Natlan is basically huts held hardly together by mud, sticks, and rope? Its archaic compared to the other regions and to then suddenly have digital and now industrial mechanics flung into it without reason, its just not a seamless or believable scenario
Its immersion breaking in the very least because they did not adequately incorporate the technology and mechanics in the lived and observable experience of Natlan so it is out of place and not realistic. People can enjoy it but its not consistent or logical and that fact is seemingly ignored while those of us who are aware of it can't deny this reality
@@domgk-rx5ih people forgot that xianyun had already created bikes and drones
I feel like she is going to work really well with Raiden personally due to how they both work
xiangling is on life support, but is still holding on... one more hit to her and we might officially be able to say xiangling is dead
wait until traveller becomes a necromancer and revives xiangling as an undead
Xiangliing will never be dead because she cooks every abyss. And she's cooking the next one. I won't be surprised is Xiangliing gets an ancient name next patch lmao.
God willing. I can’t stand xiangling, lol
Muvika is better than xiangling,but there is no one in the game who can apply pyro very fast like xiangling 😂
Nah she's not going anywhere 100% sure of that. Just like Xingqiu and Sucrose stayed relevant in their own niche after Yelan and Kazuha respectively. Xiangling will just be used on the other half of the abyss or for whatever (futuer) team wants even more pyro application than Mavuika.
2:28 Is everyone forgetting Cloud Retainer talking about inventing a motorcycle hundreds of years ago for a contest?
The problem is that the motorcycle is too modern looking and not stylized to fit Teyvat. Imagine if they gave Chevreuse an AK47.
@TacticalDimples they're reverse engineering Dragon Civilisation technology
I don't care. That was dumb too but the difference is we didn't actually see it.
I can't with the motorcycle, ngl.
looks great, better than a q, swap character
It is going to take more then 1 character to kill her
Then don't pull for her nobody's forcing people to like it. Personally I love it
Can't with the can't people, ngl.
Genshin could have wifi, big robots, and weird futuristic mechanism but god forbid someone has a motorcycle
Another great video i love these speculative type videos you do, they are informative and fun without being leaks so its nice, keep up the good work Jello!
What Murderofbirds reminded me is true, Cloud Retainer once made a motorized bike of some sort to beat Moon Carver in a race, so yeah, some sort of vehicles do exist, it's just we haven't seen them...
We don’t see horses too, but it doesn’t mean they don’t exist, it just game restrictions
She will be a skip for me, I do not like the bike at all....
I can kinda see your point, kinda odd that it's a sleek high tech looking one as well rather than holding a similar aesthetic with the assumed time period like they did with the Cycle in BoTW. Personally, I hope they use it as an excuse to tie in beings from other worlds (like a Crossover event to tie in ZZZ or HSR)
And it's not like there is a complete lack of technology with how advanced Fontaine and their mechas worked, and we know that Katherine is a machine that is borderline indistinguishable from humans, and Snesnayan made. So while Genshin has some high tech stuff, the bike seems odd.
@@otsdarvafoxxfyre ya because as we know Teminator quality human replicating robots far preceded motorcycles in our world.....
No you will pull for her, mark my words
Ikr? It's so painful to look at. I'm glad that this chara and the other joke charas in Natlan will never be in my account.
@@chanxtian8864good for you the rest of us will have fun with the natlan chatacters
Funny how people criticizing the technology.
We have ruin guards that are ancient and more advanced than a motorcycle...
Also don't forget the Akasha system in Sumeru
It's not about the tech, it's about the motorbike. It is too simplistic and predictable as a design for an archon
Yes and no. Ruin guards pretty widespread across all Teyvat, bcs it's technology of dead long ago civilization. But motorcycle is only one, if let's say flying cars and motorcycles was very common in Natlan it wouldn't look so out of place, but instead Natlan ppl riding dinosaurs and only "choosen" circle of a few ppl riding futuristic devices/vehicles. 😅 Imagine this situation irl: all city rides horses and only mayor on the Lamborghini 🤣
Explain this then. If Mavuika has a motorcycle, how come no one else has transportation even close to that advanced? They explain Khaenri'an technology very well in the lore, here I hate it because they gave it as little thought as possible and just went "uH iT's pOweReD bY pHloGiStoN" despite everywhere else showing they clearly dont have the knowledge to craft such a thing. So dumb. It breaks the world building. They normally put so much effort into the lore making everything believable in this world but they really dropped the ball with Natlan
Totally right. When we arrived Sumeru we saw those giant Ruin Guards bloated with actual computers in the inside. In fact, what we saw about Kaenri'ah was pretty advanced technology... Not to mention the Akasha terminal that someone has already pointed here that is basically Internet (or Sumeru's intranet if you prefer) for conecting to a State manipulated encyclopaedia which made for an insane futuristic ciberpunk dystopia theme for a big part of the Archon Quest on Sumeru, on Genshin.
In the end, I think that Genshin scriptwriters are really good at mixing things and put ideas that at first glance should not be there just for the looks.
While we haven't "SEEN" a motor vehicle in genshin yet, if you've played the Xianyun(cloud retainer) story quest, she mentions that she built what is described as a motorcycle powered by electro to beat mountain shaper in a race. So there is some bases for vehicles in genshin just not powered by and engine and fuel but by the elements.
So earlier we have 2 Xingquis and now we have 2 Xanglings ❤❤ still gonna pull!!!❤
The design choices for Natlan are baffling
We have had no vehicles in Genshin. Meanwhile the climax of Fontaine happened complete with submersible flying boat.Given that, what is the problem with a flying gun or motorcycle? People are too narrow minded. There are lots of merchant horse carts scattered about too. Lets not even get into the mining bots in Fontaine, what is the difference between a motorized unicycle automaton and a motorcycle?
Edit: Totally forgot the flower carriage that Nahida was taken away in ~500 years ago....
The problem with it is that these Natlan designs are uninspired, simplistic and non-innovative. Like really? A biker girl for an archon? Lol
Literally every vehicle you mentioned matches with the games time period
@@chanxtian8864 "Really, a theater girl for an archon?"
"Really, a Shogun for an Archon?"
"Really, a bard for an Archon?"
"Really, a dude in a suit for an Archon?"
Why is it that Mavuika, Xilonen and Chasca are the only people in all of Natlan with access to this modern tech? Everyone else is riding animals. It doesn't fit into the world they created, and THAT'S the problem.
@@CountMonsparkle Because Xilonen literally crafted it for them? And define modern? The state of technology in Russia and Japan is not the same either, yet it belongs to the same planet.
Was happy for a moment when you mentioned Ganyu. I've had her since her first banner but she's hardly been used over the years as there's almost always better teams.
Btw Xianyun made an electro-powered motorcycle presumably a few centuries ago during an adepti race. She said it during her story quest
Yep raced Mountain Carver and fell off
Yeah but that was just a story. Now it's part of the pyro archons kit.
Lmao I would find it funny if Xianyun hears about the archon’s bike and immediately travels Natlan to race her and prove her invention’s superiority
"Just put out anything, ping. They'll still buy"
-mihoyo probably when developing Natlan
The moment Genshin truly jumped the shark.
nah they did that with Mualani
War pushes for new technology to be made, so its not surprising she has a motorcycle. Xianyun also told us she has one.
Side note: Mavuika should be good with Lyney, bcs Lyney wants pyro teammates that are supports.
I was going to pull for her but now I'll skip for Citlali. On field pyro dps, and the motorcycle is just.. idk
for those who dont know: that bike is reference to himeko's bike in hi3&eva collab
I don't really find the bike weird. There have been hints in Teyvat of contact with modern worlds. You can in fact see a car when Furina activates her burst. Other things that come to mind are Xinyan's rock aesthetic, or the yae publishing manga. We learn that the sky is fake, while outlanders like Alice allude to visiting advanced worlds. The Fatui being so advanced while in Mondstat always seemed sus. Teyvat is intentionally an incoherent fantasy world, because it is fake. Each region has an identity and Natlan is modern as an antidote to a streyotypical tribal society.
it makes sense in lore, you're not wrong, but I wish there was more synergy is all. the environment and the tribe home locations feel very tribal, but if there were more pieces of modern tech specifically around natlan, I'd be so much more down. I'd also be more down if this wasn't right on the tail of fontaine, which iirc, was explicitly stated to be the most technologically advanced of the nations. chlorinde having pistols and wrio having rocket gauntlets absolutely worked in fontaine, because fontaine as a whole had a lot of tech in the cities (think of all the gardemeks walking around, the massive press thing at the blacksmith there, and the more modern materials of the more advanced architecture). the tech also worked in sumeru despite its less modern visual style because the tech was flavored as a whole lot of magic (we didn't see an airpod earpiece type thing for the akasha for example, it was a swirl of glowing green magic at the ear). genshin has shown us plenty of tech things in the past and had it work in the world, idk why they fumbled so hard with it in natlan when they've already done this so many times before
if natlan wanted to stick to the more basic and earthy style of architecture, I just really wish the tech followed a similar aesthetic. for example, the bike was carved from stone and has glowing red/orange runes on it that seem to make the bike work
I think that's the disconnect people are having. I didn't like xilonen busting out a dj table for her burst/idles or really the entirety of ajaw's pixelated design and kinich's gamer themes because they just.... don't fit with natlan's aesthetic. the characters don't feel coherent with their own home. clorinde and chevreuse and wriothesley all felt like they fit in fontaine despite the more modern-feeling tech because fontaine as a whole had more modern-feeling tech - I wish I could say the same for xilonen and kinich and mauvuika and even chasca (much as I love her)
@lunaredelvour2972 Yeah the problem is the game doesn't properly address this. There are hints of people in Nathan being somewhat against technology. Nathan has an emphasis of preserving tradition and culture. However Chasca in her story quest brings up how mobility in the nation could be so much better if they adopted technology. I guess it could also show how vision holders are essentially the ambitions that let them rise above the confines that normal people face.
We have large ships and even airships in Fontaine. I don't think a motorcycle is too much of a stretch lol
I really like that she is a dps, I don't want her to be a support or off field support coz then I wouldn't be able to see her animations
Life span of dps-es are shorter than others,unlike some like Neuvilette,Arlechino.
@@GamerTv-yx9fy I dint care about their life spam or anything, I don't follow meta, I play whoever I like. If a 4yo dps is still relevant, then this lifespan logic doesn't applies here + this is genshin not stairail, that with every new patch the old units becomes unusable
@@GamerTv-yx9fy well she'll last long, she's hella strong mavuika has the highest scaling as a hypercarry
@@heatzyy415 I heard it's 3times or something more than dilucs lol
the motorbike really puts me off. It breaks immersion into the world of the game. It's like the developers though "hey .. the kids like motorbikes. Lets throw one of those in there". Totally frivolous decision
(nb: we do already have a vehicle of sorts .. that thing Kachina rides around on)
Agreed with the Natlan modern tech, don't think it really goes with the rest of game. It's all very pretty and well designed, but does feel out of place.
Also nothing on the Pyro Traveller? Is it just so likely to be meh that no one cares?
I am 100% pulling for her, regardless if shes broken or not.
The design is awesome and i would love to have her on the team.
I have a pretty open mind plus I'm a huge anime guy so seeing characters flying on giant guns or characters riding motorcycles isn't all that crazy to me at all. Besides, although we haven't seen them, Vehicles exist in Genshin. Cloud Retainer created one to race Mountain Shaper. Apparently it was very fast but struggled going over the Rocky mountain terrain.
ok guys hear me out, she's the first archon who increase crit or crit damage upon ascension it means we finally have a DPS archon, well other archons can be dps but still this one is like build really for dps. If mavuika powercreep other pyro characters because as I can see on test server with broken support and at c0r1 she can deal a lot of damage 🤣 is it finally the time for my knave to retire? I mean I'm tired of dodging everything because I cant heal my pyro dps (I don't have zhongli) . If she's that broken I will pull for her, if not then I will guve father constellation 2 or 3 depends on my luck. Goodluck guys
people: Why a Motorcycle?! It's doesn't fit with the game.
Literally Genshin: go fight every week with a fucking evangelion's robot used by a angry puppet kid.
@@AlexMtzRock Yeah, ikr. These kind of people are having a beef with Natlan ever since its release and just need to find the silliest excuse to justify their personal grudge.
@@kevinclement1533What personal grudge? I was hyped up for Mavuika but seing this motorcycle... Bruh. I might end up not wishing for her. It's too ridiculous
Akasha was a magical internet, but they still exist outside of the characters we pull for, Mavuika fighting by running shit over with a bike is just dumb. Why did she bother fighting Kapitano as an actual badass warrior, when her gameplay loop revolves around spinning on a bike.
@@fibiko984yeah just a hater ever since natlan most you are on the hate train because natlan characters are not black and doesn't fit your agenda. Thank god your just a minority and mihoyo dont listen to people like you.
@@fibiko984Nah it's not, it's cool af and made me more hyped. It's not that deep bro genshin had literally robots if that fits the Motorcycle fits.
Close enough.
Welcome back Ghost Rider
Not sure what's worse, the Devs, or people that willingly blindly defend the devs.
Constellation: Sol Invictus??? Epic Destiny 2 Reference? RAHHHHHH SUNBREAKER TITAN
We have flying mechanical dragon looking enemies but a motorcycle is now making people question how is this possible in genshin? Wowww the duality is insane🤣🤣 people forget that Khaenri'ah was living in the future..!!!!
Jello inderectly talking about leaks to avoid Hihoyos legal action hammer, will never not be funny
I absolutely despise Mavuika's design, so I'm relieved that her gameplay does not benefit any of my main DPS characters. Whew!...🎉
I really hope they buff her support and buffing capabilities (more pyro application, more dmg bonus or atk bonus) even if it means nerfing her dps power
We have enough pyro carries as it is
Mavuika is killing two birds with one stone,
- RIP Xiangling and Arlecchino
Best Alercchino support coming 🤭
Bruhh😂😂😂🤣🤣the copiiiuummm is really.Dude she is nowhere near Arlecchino's dps potential and dont get me started on how fucked up her team restrictions are.🤣🤣
Xiangling is by far the best pyro applicator (no ICD and everything) while Arlechinno's raw damage can't be outmatched. So much copium lmao
@@GamerTv-yx9fyyes she is no where near arlecchino she is way better, you can cope all you want but her bike CA is wayyyy too strong currently, it doesnt even feel real seeing the multipliers for a c0 character
@Nanii_nani yeah,just like Kirara who has the highest burst multipilier hitting insane dmg right? 🤡🤡🤡🤣🤣🤣
I am so tired of seeing people say how stupid the motorcycle was, the design is theme like and the attack cool, people always talking how its too modern when we literaly fight a gundam and an anti gravity mecha, saying that it doesnt match the traditional theme, but never thinking that just because they have a tradional life doesnt mean they way of thinking and technology need to be backward to, i can also say that nevuelite charge attack animation are just lazy and stupid, but you i didnt say it everytime i see him on screen because i know theres people who like it and its only from my perspective
The motorcycle (kind of) technically has a very logical explanation. Due to phlogiston and the tendencies it has, It can be used to morph into any type of weapon or object. This is most likely how Mavuika was able to obtain a motorcycle by manipulating phlogiston, because it’s practical for exploring and going through Natlan, and is also able to fight (run people over)
Man, the reaching people need to do to cope with how awful this looks
Lol a motorbike is where you draw the line? Wait till we get to snezhnaya then😂
Arlecreep & Xiangcreep is more than what I need
You know all the people whining below will still get her
Peak design. Many mad people that there's a shiny new character that makes them no longer look like the coolest kid on the block. Just pull instead of using your samey 4 year old Genshin Circle characters. Change is good. Different designs are good.
How is a biker girl peak design? Her playstyle bonking monsters with the wheels of the motorbike is horrendous
@@chanxtian8864 that sounds fun asf wdym lol
@@damousx6860yeah genshintards are just mad for no reason, They hate fun I guess...
@@damousx6860 fun for you and others maybe. But in the grander scheme of things, a motorbike killing Celestia gods by hopping like a rabbit with the motorbike is just a clown show. It's something only an 8 yr old that still has a big shock factor can appreciate
Meeting room: We need to be as cool as *Final Fantasy 7 Advent Children*
The bike is the most awesome thing I've seen in this game, i just love it so much cause it reminds me of Dante from Devil May Cry, can't wait to play with it
Itto + Mavuika + Clorinde for the Dmc Dante team
I don't mind the bike. Considering Xilonen was able to make roller-skates that can GO UP WALLS, a motorbike is not that out of the questing. Like, I don't think people understand how insane those skates are. In order for them to go up walls the way they do they basically need to be motor powered already. If she can create some sort of phlogiston powered motor that small she can create one for a regular sized bike.
Also she's still in beta so I'm hoping they lower the application just a little. I so wanna use her with Ganyu and 2 sec is just on the cusp of always melting comfortably.
We've been fighting mechas and automatons since the game came out but apparently a motorcycle is too technologically advanced for some people
That come from an ancient dead civilization. With plenty of lore behind them, and they all look ancient and rusted too.
Not this absolute bullshit. Where did Xilonen get the knowledge to craft a synthesizer from? That shit is the cumulation of thousands of years of Music and tech innovation?
Always cracks me up how y'all keep defending this trash.
Natlan killed the last interest I had in this mismanaged game.
On a side note, can't wait for Da-Wei to cry again on stream. That shit was so hilarious! Just sums up the Mihoyo community perfectly. Just drop, roll and cry rather then.... Improving your game?
That was such a terrible comparison and you know it. L.
The problem is not technology, but style. Fontaine’s mechs looks good cuz they add to the steampunkish aesthetic of the region for example. Natlan has tribes, houses built of clay and then suddenly a huge flying gun and a motorcycle that feels like it’s straight outta HSR. I’ve seen a video of Mavuika riding her bike in Inazuma and it feels so weird, like a Skyrim mod
Bro c'mon. You know it's not about motorcycles being more advanced than mecha.
@@zealgaming8161 lol we have plenty of technology in teyvat. Fontaine literally has an army of advanced autonomous robots who shoot missiles. Liuye has a freaking castle in sky, Fontaine has machine that turn off gravit, Humanoid puppets like kathrine, wanderer and machine gods like scara and Shogun exist and for some reason you can't stand a bike in thee. Lol .... Fontaine was even more advanced before their research institute got blown sky high. You can't complain about advanced technology in teyvat. However I can see that sports bike break the feel of fantasy in game earlier they used to implement technology in such a way that got the job done but didn't break the feel of fantasy now they are getting out of the fantasy journey and entering si-fi stuff..
Whelp so much for hoping she rode a dragon. I really wanted her to be a dragon rider.
I guess Nuev and Yanfei will be my favorite dps until the end times. And Yanfei is a dragon and no one can change my mind.
The bike ruined this character for me, I ain't pulling even if she's the most broken thing in the game. Especially since I wanted her just and only for Mualani vape and she can't even supoort double hydro so it's it's like pulling an archon to just get a worse Xiangling😔feels like ass I am mad AND dissapointed.
Dps characters are usually powercrept in time, so I find it weird that they gave her that role. Especially because outside of that it seems her only speciality is 2s pyro off-field app. and be a BIS Natlan teammate. Hell, without Natlan teammates, she'll probably won't reach her full potential which can be really limiting for players who don't like the other Natlan charas... Maybe constellations will enable more teams? I'm curious...
Jello, you said it would make more sense for Mauvika to be riding a dragon, not a motorcycle with that outfit. Take another look at the motorcycle.
It looks like a dragon. Because of course this is Natlan!
Yeah and Natlan sucks. So does the motorcycle. Can't wait to move on to anime Russia.
@natediaz1863 you could just play a different game that meets your expectations; this one is maybe not for you?
@@pr0ntab I'm happy for you that you enjoy eating 💩
I was hoping we'll finally get a good pyro off-field application 100% uptime with their skill itself but it seems she's made to be a dps for the most part, her application only apply pyro every 2s, wish they would make her more consistent as support too
I am disappointed with how goofy she is ngl, I would rather play her with a T pose bug than see that stupid motorcycle.
we can’t all have good taste
"I hate her but Ill pull for her ☝️🤓"
Just skip her if u don't like her
@@DiamondCityLights you call liking a bike jumping around like a rabbit good taste? bro, get real
Agreed. That motorbike does not belong in genshin. Too IRL looking, ruins escapism of fantasy game.
@@chanxtian8864 so we're just gonna ignore the SUMERUS INTERNET, SUMERUS HOLOGRAPHS, XINYANS MOTORCYCLE, FONTAINS ROBOTS, and genshin NEVER stated that it was medieval based lmao you guys are onto something and I don't want NONE of it
Dudes, we have a rideable drill, cat box car, rideable shark, giant flying gun, and SPIDER-MAN. Don't think a motorcycle is any reason to skip out on an archon. Imagine if people skipped Nuevi just cus his idle involved drinking water . Would be a crying shame
I mean both are main DPS not supports so yeah if people think it looks weird thats a fine reason to skip. Especially for Mavuika because by this point most people have multiple Pyro main DPS already.
They goofy Bike isn't even half the problem. No one asked for another Pyro DPS. Her entire kit is objectively terrible game design and a backwards step for Genshin. Devs are out of touch.
I honestly dont care about mavuika no matter how good she may be because I just got a 36.5% crit dmg pyro goblet on set for my f2p c1 arlecchino who now has 204.2% crit dmg and 80.5% crit rate with r5 white tassel so Im saving for arlecchinos weapon first and c2 arle or mavuika second.
Raiden's teamwide elemental burst damage buff is actually just from having her skill active, so the comparison between her and mavuika (in terms of being able to provide at least some of her buffing from off field) is actually closer. Raiden still needs to on field to battery the team but her actual damage buffing isn't tied to burst at all
I swear narrow-minded people need to shut up and stop complaining about the motorcycle because ITS NOT that out of place because of xilonen, what IS weird though is a freaking FLYING GUN. Also mavuika NEEDS to be a main DPS because she's the FREAKING GOD OF WAR, it would make NO damn sense for her to be a support
If she's a main dps she's essentially worthless long run.
Supports are way more powerful
Someone in the comments mentioned that if a 4 year old Pyro dps is still relevant today (HuTao) , so will Mavuika, and I actually like that argument. And I personally think it's a breath of fresh air that an archon is not merely a support, BUT I get where people are coming from when they say they expected a Bennett/Xiangling replacement.
And come on you really can't say the bike doesn't look out of place...
Biker girl archon sucks for a design. Ez skip.
😂 they waited so much because they thought that they will be nominated 💀
Unfortunately to trigger/proc her skill, the on-field character needs to be in 2~3m range of enemy. And the duration of the skill is hardly 9sec
Yes it's about 12-13
@Dabeast1911Que with c1
@@kenta6591, with c0* and the range is 6 meters, not 3
@@kenta6591 no. C1 would make her e effectively have over 100% uptime. The current kit and calcs say it's from 12-13 seconds on average.
She has 12.5 seconds uptime at C0, and her duration exceeds her Cooldown at C1 which gives her 100% uptime