I pre-ordered my X100VI on 24 February. It shipped on 28 February and I had it in my hands on March 1. I’ve been shooting with the 100 series since 2011 and own three other FujiFilm cameras. I’ve never had any trouble getting a camera. If you want a popular camera, then you must order it when they come out. Otherwise you’re going to be waiting. It’s like that with most popular items.
@@MichaelMauldinExplores must be nice..lol a majority of us pre ordered on pre order day Feb 20 and yet you got yours ahead of everyone else?..four days later than the initial pre order day?..lol and also people who pre ordered and clicked with 5 minutes..were still not in the group of the "first initial shipment"..so where did you get it from? outside of the US?..
I love how the world is shooting vertical video and Fuji is like Nah... we're considering making a panoramic photo/video camera. That back screen would be so killer if it looked like that!
35mm and 120 film is still an incredibly small and shrinking industry that is getting increasingly expensive even for the hardcore film photographers out there.
The two film cameras I want from Fuji, that are at least semi-realistic: First, an ultrawide Instax Square. 42mm would have the same field of view as the Hasselblad SWC, but be fun and light and actually available for less than $3-4000. I don't need much. It can be a basic plastic dark lens like the other Instax, and have nothing-fancy exposure system. Just give me that ultrawide Instax. Right now, they're all 35mm equivalent, but tossing in a 20mm equivalent would be really distinct and I think it'd be a big hit among anyone who already buys Instax. Second, use that success to fund a camera shooting 135 film in 65:24 TX-1 format with the same lens. Perhaps even a disposable QuickSnap, but I'd prefer something a tad nicer, even if it's wicked basic. I'm not expecting a new premium camera, just something to beat the Sprocket Rocket.
Jonas Rask (Fujifilm product photographer and big supporter of the TX-1) also mentioned this in an Instagram post today, stating that a Fuji contact had mentioned the prospect of a TX-1 style camera in 2028.
Glad to hear this thats exactly what I been waiting for , I own a lot of X series cameras and lenses the main reason I bought a GFX was for the xpan crop in camera , it’s great but I would love a X series camera I could use with all my X series interchangeable lenses. I really hope they make it with an interchangeable lens mount and not a fixed lens . (I will not buy the camera if it’s fixed lens because I own over 15 Fuji lenses and would not be able to use them). Hope to see this camera in the future
If VR products take off, I can imagine this being in higher-demand, as high-res panos are something which look stunning in virtual spaces - particularly if the camera has high-quality video functionality too. I think the extent to which this is 'niche' largely depends on the success of products such as Apple Vision Pro over the next 3-5 years.
I did not see that coming. Yea. That would be amazing. First time seeing your video. Congratulations on the family. I’m 48 turning 49 next month and have a 15 month old. Family first.
Honestly... depends on what they're actually considering. If it's basically just an X-Pro camera with a wider rear screen and wider OVF/EVF, and an extra switch on the body for quickly changing the aspect ratio, I'm in. I'm in 100%. That makes a tone of sense. All the X-Mount lenses we know and love, in a body that isn't that different from the rest of the X-Pro line, but just optimized for 65:24 crops on existing sensors. Make the OVF wide enough to accommodate the horizontal of as wide a lens as you can--18, 16, maybe even 14mm--since you know the height will be fine after the crop. Using the same 40mp sensor as the X-T5, but building the camera around the intent of cropping to TX-1 format would go a long way. But the thing which makes zero sense: a 65:42 ratio sensor, even a crop sensor with the same aspect ratio. It did in film, since it was incredibly convenient to just use more 35mm film. Given the detail limits in film, and the best way to increase resolution was to increase film area, and the fact that 135 film has a fixed 35mm height including the sprockets, that was the only realistic option. That's not the world we live in anymore. In digital, however, the big limitation is the image circle. And given a particular image circle, using roughly 3:2 ratio and cropping is going to be far more practical. Using a TX-1 format sensor throws away so much of an image circle. There's basically four options for image circles: an entirely new lens ecosystem (which is a hard ask), a fixed lens (which really hurts versatility with such a distinctive image format--folks *will* want to go ultrawide as well as normal as well as telephoto), or using the existing X or G ecosystem. But if you're already using an existing lens format, you give up so much by making a wide, short sensor. Right now, with the image circle of X-Mount lenses and a 40mp sensor, you can crop to a 22mp TX-1 image. How big would it be if you had a 65:24 sensor? Well, it'd be a little smaller than 27mm by 10mm, and only about 26mp total. You barely gain anything in terms of actual width and megapixels, but give up a tonne of versatility. To shoot 3:2 format with such a skinny sensor leaves you with a usable area smaller than micro43, without any of the size and cost savings, and only something like 15mp. If you shoot one standard shot to 3 panoramics, you'll have a higher weighted average MP per shot with the 3:2 sensor than the 65:24 sensor. The same holds true if a digital TX-1 was based on a GFX mount. You go from 100mp standard and 55mp TX-1 down to 65mp TX-1 and 40mp standard, with the cost and size of GFX lenses. It just doesn't make any sense to build a camera with a 65:24 sensor. It's just geometry.
All I want is an x-pro 4 I am sure they are researching and prototyping this camera but I don’t totally believe this camera will come out because they’ve sort of stopped selling niche cameras in the past three or four years, killing off the x pro and xe lines. They seem to not sell anything that’s not a safe bet anymore. The x100 is the only unique camera they still make and that’s an anomaly due to it blowing up on TikTok and social media, if the recent x100 cameras sold similarly to their other cameras they probably wouldn’t still be making them.
@@fauland_photographyuntil I see evidence it wasn’t killed, I am not getting my hopes up with them again. They said there’s no x-pro camera in production or development, and they discontinued the x-pro 3 because of the design flaws and lawsuits around it. The x-pro 2 is the peak, I hope they just add a screen like the x100v to the back because the gimmick they had on the x-pro 3 is part of why it sold poorly. Plenty of street photographers compose with the rear screen, including many of the greats like daido moriyama who shoots on point and shoots with LCD, the elitism around the x-pro 3’s announcement was off putting and implied that photographers who don’t use the viewfinder exclusively aren’t real street photographers. They need to stop trying to be like Leica and own their own identity, which I feel they did better in the 2010s than they do now.
I hear a lot of people asking about this so I think it would be a success. Never was interested and if they use a full size sensor it's kind of weird not just to add it to existing 40mp cameras via software, but overall sounds interesting.
Fujifilm should put all effort into developing an autofocus system which is as reliable as the competitors ones. If they don't succeed with that there will be no Fujifilm anymore in 2028.
I think i would buy it. I absolutely love my x100v and limiting me. However i shoot vertical photos 90% of the time. Used a few different Hasselblads and the xpan mode was incredible. Having a dedicated camera for this with an extra wide sensor the Size of 2x35 would be amazing
If film, nice rumor. If digital, senseless when XPAN is already included in GFX models. A format they should include in their 40MP sensor cameras. Now that would please me a lot more (since I have an X-T5), and their 90th birthday would be a great occasion to delight their customers.
Absolutely would get one. Mind you, I'd also like to get an X100VI and that's proving rather challenging. I do use the wide aspect ratio from time to time on my GFX 50SII. I think of the wonderful images Josef Koudelka creates (see his Ruins book for instance) with a panoramic film camera. Restricting oneself to that format = creative responses. YES FUJIFILM: please!
Thanks Patrick for this good news. I know 2028 isn’t exactly tomorrow but it’ll give me time to save money. Cause one thing is sure, if this rumor gets confirmed, it’s an instant buy for me.
Because an TX-1 shaped sensor is a bad idea given the geometry of lens design. What's the really foolish is the fact that they haven't put 65:24 crop in their 40mp sensor cameras already.
Don’t mind this at all, but where’s the organic sensor camera with the tech they built together with Panasonic? Panasonic had a working video camera at the last Olympics in Japan and the it disappeared again. One recent morning was that it had an on-sensor electronic ND FILTER.
@@budthecyborg4575 True, but a Panasonic representative at the time said they would be probably putting in a number of camera bodies, that at least sounds like they’d done some work on crunching to the numbers for manufacturing.
why can't they just put the option of panoramic crop directly into all x series cameras? that said, if this ever happens, i'll buy this day 1, owing also an xpan
Cropping images is totally pedestrian, the only reason a camera like this would need a four year development time is if they are giving it a bespoke sensor.
Hmm, not sure, depends how its implemented, if they just use the central cropped section of a standard sensor that would make some people quite mad I expect and custom letterbox shaped sensor would be frighteningly expensive. I think this one might be off.
This makes no sense when it is so easy to make a panorama with any digital camera. What next? A square format camera? Actually I have almost never seen a panorama shot that was worth the film or pixels.
I guess we can safely assume that Patrick's third son will arrive in 2028. Every time Fuji has a great announcement season, Patrick also has had a son 😊!
this is stupid. so stupid. so they discontinued the xpro line because of low sales but are willing to develop a camera that will surely have low sales as well given how niche it is. smfh what a stupid company.
It just halph of GFX-sensor, horisontal split gives perfect match to Xpan frame ratio. So, 2 panoramic sensors instead of one shoulf not be hard to produce
@greger589 you think I'm incapable of disrespecting your mom ? Waiting 4 years for a maybe camera will be released. Ironically "get a life " is a great thing to say to you
That would be amazing! I guess if it had interchangeable lenses it'd be GFX mount? Can't see an super wide format like that using an APS-C size sensor.
The thing is that you can already shoot in that format within the GFX cameras….so it might be an APS-C sensor…OR an X-mount with a full-frame sensor where the existing lenses would cover the wide middle section of it
@@SalarSayyad Massive overkill to go FF. The image circle for APS-C is 28.2mm, so you wouldn't need a sensor wider than about 26.5mm. Would a 27mm by 15.6mm sensor be gain something? A little but not much. It's not actually that much bigger than a 23.5mm sensor. And compared to the ~22mp crops to 65:24 you can already make on an X-Trans5, you'd only go up to something like 26mp. I don't think it'd be worthwhile to expand the sensor to gain a measly 4mp. Just optimize an X-Mount camera's interface (wider viewfinder and rear screen, and add a physical switch for aspect ratio) for TX-1.
The dream. The absolute dream. Do you think they could be waiting to see how the Vwfndr Keirin is received before launching something? I mean, the GFX will already give the 2x35mm crop, right? I don't know for sure because the GFX is out of my price range. But they're already making those. Congrats from a dad of twins. #1 priority is wife's mental and physical health. Right on, Patrick.
That's what I want, and the only thing that actually makes sense. I'm imagining something akin to the next iteration of the X-Pan line, just crop the standard 40mp to 65:24, with optimizations for viewing the crop in camera--wider OVF/EVF and wider rear screen, so that you have a larger preview to look at for composition. Add in a physical switch for quickly switching aspect ratios, and it'd be great. Any non-standard sensor shape just doesn't make sense.
Here's an idea: two adjacent sensors, seamless firmware integration into one jpg and raw file, but also: an attachment (if it is a fixed lens) for 3D, and then two side-by-side images from a 3D lens or lens adapter.
If it's an ACTUAL 65x24 mm sensor which you can shoot in panoramic mode or switch to a 3:2 aspect ratio FULL FRAME sensor mode using 36x24 mm of the sensor area then there may be interest. This would be incredible panoramic medium format image quality and a full frame release all in one. It could be very versatile and would be one of the largest consumer sensors made to date. The lenses would have to somehow be compact though, like the original XPAN. If it's anything else, it's stupid. The way the XPan works is that the lenses have larger image circle coverage. This allows you to expose more horizontally because the film exposure area is not limited to 36x24. However the vertical height of the film does not change meaning that vertical areas of the lens are effectively 'cropped' due to the film not being big enough to capture it. This means that effectively, it is no different than cropping the image. It is not like an anamorphic lens that squeezes more information horizontally while retaining the same vertical field of view. Those lenses have unique characteristics. The XPan lenses have no such unique properties aside from having a larger image circle than FF or APSC lenses. We have incredibly high resolution sensors already - just hype a big kaizen firmware update and call it the XPan update that adds 65:24 aspect ratio/frame lines to all of the 40 megapixel bodies. The image quality and resolution is still fantastic with an XPan aspect crop out of 40 MP on APSC. We don't need what will be a niche, overpriced, larger camera. In fact, the GFX sensors are 44x33 and when they shoot in 65:24 aspect ratio it's effectively the same thing as if you made a special 40x15 sensor or something like that. It will literally be equal image quality with still large resolution out of the crop. I think it's stupid if they release a 44x15 sensor that can shoot in APSC mode with 24x15 mm sensor area. You have to go to the full 65x24 sensor area if you want this to be unique and release three compact lenses with it just like the original XPAN. Or hell, make the original XPAN lenses adaptable to it as well. If they do this with the special large sensor that converts to full frame you will win over fuji fans that have wanted an XPAN as well as a Full Frame fuji option. The one benefit of a 44x15 sensor would be if you crop to aps-c 3:2 aspect ratio using it you could potentially use other Fuji X mount lenses with an adapter and GFX lenses when shooting in panoramic mode since they would have full horizontal sensor coverage? But then the lens mount would force it to be bigger. I dunno if it makes sense. I'd need to see more from Fuji about what this is to determine if it actually makes sense or would be worth the money.
They would have to release a whole new set of lenses for the system as well. X Mount lenses only cover apsc and if they go with a cropped apsc sensor why even bother. GFX lenses could cover a panoramic format but are too large to fit on a TX-1 style body. Building compact autofocus lenses covering the xpan format is probably extremely difficult.
Cool product in my opinion. if done right, with latest sensor technology, and Fujifilm film recipes, could be a fun camera. I would drop money on something weird like that over the X100 series.
I love the idea but I'd prefer they invest in the R line to make the best possible + some nice compact lenses. Fujifilm is the only camera system offering a vast "in camera crop" experience with XPAN, 6x7, square and others. That's sufficient to provide the shooting experience, flexibility and image quality. If they'd make a panoramic sensor, I bet it'd not be wider that the current super full frame, not use a dedicated mount. If FUJIFILM were to create a new standard, I'd rather like to see them open the 60x70cm space with a huge sensor (it's doesn't need to have more than 100M px at first).
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Fujifilm should open pre-orders now so we can get it in 2028!
People will be lucky to get it for listed price even in 2030
I pre-ordered my X100VI on 24 February. It shipped on 28 February and I had it in my hands on March 1. I’ve been shooting with the 100 series since 2011 and own three other FujiFilm cameras. I’ve never had any trouble getting a camera. If you want a popular camera, then you must order it when they come out. Otherwise you’re going to be waiting. It’s like that with most popular items.
time to set up an HYSA just to be able to afford this one in '28
LOL!
@@MichaelMauldinExplores must be nice..lol a majority of us pre ordered on pre order day Feb 20 and yet you got yours ahead of everyone else?..four days later than the initial pre order day?..lol and also people who pre ordered and clicked with 5 minutes..were still not in the group of the "first initial shipment"..so where did you get it from? outside of the US?..
I love how the world is shooting vertical video and Fuji is like Nah... we're considering making a panoramic photo/video camera. That back screen would be so killer if it looked like that!
Of the 10,000 plus pictures I have only like 3 are vertical. I would dig this camera
uploading with a new born while keeping the house this *tidy is an achievement in itself. Congratulations!
Fuji should just come out with a real film camera under $600, bring back velvia too. Would sell like crazy
35mm and 120 film is still an incredibly small and shrinking industry that is getting increasingly expensive even for the hardcore film photographers out there.
The two film cameras I want from Fuji, that are at least semi-realistic: First, an ultrawide Instax Square. 42mm would have the same field of view as the Hasselblad SWC, but be fun and light and actually available for less than $3-4000. I don't need much. It can be a basic plastic dark lens like the other Instax, and have nothing-fancy exposure system. Just give me that ultrawide Instax. Right now, they're all 35mm equivalent, but tossing in a 20mm equivalent would be really distinct and I think it'd be a big hit among anyone who already buys Instax.
Second, use that success to fund a camera shooting 135 film in 65:24 TX-1 format with the same lens. Perhaps even a disposable QuickSnap, but I'd prefer something a tad nicer, even if it's wicked basic. I'm not expecting a new premium camera, just something to beat the Sprocket Rocket.
A film canera... I'd buy that sight unseen in a flash
Jonas Rask (Fujifilm product photographer and big supporter of the TX-1) also mentioned this in an Instagram post today, stating that a Fuji contact had mentioned the prospect of a TX-1 style camera in 2028.
I’d love to see a monochrome version of the X100 series
Technically, Fuji already has a Digital Xpan. The GFX 50R. It can shoot in the same 65x24 crop.
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Glad to hear this thats exactly what I been waiting for , I own a lot of X series cameras and lenses the main reason I bought a GFX was for the xpan crop in camera , it’s great but I would love a X series camera I could use with all my X series interchangeable lenses. I really hope they make it with an interchangeable lens mount and not a fixed lens . (I will not buy the camera if it’s fixed lens because I own over 15 Fuji lenses and would not be able to use them). Hope to see this camera in the future
If VR products take off, I can imagine this being in higher-demand, as high-res panos are something which look stunning in virtual spaces - particularly if the camera has high-quality video functionality too. I think the extent to which this is 'niche' largely depends on the success of products such as Apple Vision Pro over the next 3-5 years.
A medium format-ish XPAN successor would be great
I did not see that coming. Yea. That would be amazing. First time seeing your video. Congratulations on the family. I’m 48 turning 49 next month and have a 15 month old. Family first.
I had a FujiFilm GX617 panoramic camera in the 1980/90's and loved it. I would buy a few of these for our business.
Honestly... depends on what they're actually considering.
If it's basically just an X-Pro camera with a wider rear screen and wider OVF/EVF, and an extra switch on the body for quickly changing the aspect ratio, I'm in. I'm in 100%. That makes a tone of sense. All the X-Mount lenses we know and love, in a body that isn't that different from the rest of the X-Pro line, but just optimized for 65:24 crops on existing sensors. Make the OVF wide enough to accommodate the horizontal of as wide a lens as you can--18, 16, maybe even 14mm--since you know the height will be fine after the crop. Using the same 40mp sensor as the X-T5, but building the camera around the intent of cropping to TX-1 format would go a long way.
But the thing which makes zero sense: a 65:42 ratio sensor, even a crop sensor with the same aspect ratio. It did in film, since it was incredibly convenient to just use more 35mm film. Given the detail limits in film, and the best way to increase resolution was to increase film area, and the fact that 135 film has a fixed 35mm height including the sprockets, that was the only realistic option. That's not the world we live in anymore. In digital, however, the big limitation is the image circle. And given a particular image circle, using roughly 3:2 ratio and cropping is going to be far more practical. Using a TX-1 format sensor throws away so much of an image circle.
There's basically four options for image circles: an entirely new lens ecosystem (which is a hard ask), a fixed lens (which really hurts versatility with such a distinctive image format--folks *will* want to go ultrawide as well as normal as well as telephoto), or using the existing X or G ecosystem. But if you're already using an existing lens format, you give up so much by making a wide, short sensor. Right now, with the image circle of X-Mount lenses and a 40mp sensor, you can crop to a 22mp TX-1 image. How big would it be if you had a 65:24 sensor? Well, it'd be a little smaller than 27mm by 10mm, and only about 26mp total. You barely gain anything in terms of actual width and megapixels, but give up a tonne of versatility. To shoot 3:2 format with such a skinny sensor leaves you with a usable area smaller than micro43, without any of the size and cost savings, and only something like 15mp. If you shoot one standard shot to 3 panoramics, you'll have a higher weighted average MP per shot with the 3:2 sensor than the 65:24 sensor. The same holds true if a digital TX-1 was based on a GFX mount. You go from 100mp standard and 55mp TX-1 down to 65mp TX-1 and 40mp standard, with the cost and size of GFX lenses. It just doesn't make any sense to build a camera with a 65:24 sensor. It's just geometry.
Absolute instant purchase. They should do a Kickstarter to lock in buyers as well.
All I want is an x-pro 4
I am sure they are researching and prototyping this camera but I don’t totally believe this camera will come out because they’ve sort of stopped selling niche cameras in the past three or four years, killing off the x pro and xe lines.
They seem to not sell anything that’s not a safe bet anymore. The x100 is the only unique camera they still make and that’s an anomaly due to it blowing up on TikTok and social media, if the recent x100 cameras sold similarly to their other cameras they probably wouldn’t still be making them.
The X-Pro line was never killed. X-Pro4 is in line to be announced. Keep patience, sir :.-)
@@fauland_photographyuntil I see evidence it wasn’t killed, I am not getting my hopes up with them again. They said there’s no x-pro camera in production or development, and they discontinued the x-pro 3 because of the design flaws and lawsuits around it. The x-pro 2 is the peak, I hope they just add a screen like the x100v to the back because the gimmick they had on the x-pro 3 is part of why it sold poorly.
Plenty of street photographers compose with the rear screen, including many of the greats like daido moriyama who shoots on point and shoots with LCD, the elitism around the x-pro 3’s announcement was off putting and implied that photographers who don’t use the viewfinder exclusively aren’t real street photographers. They need to stop trying to be like Leica and own their own identity, which I feel they did better in the 2010s than they do now.
I hear a lot of people asking about this so I think it would be a success. Never was interested and if they use a full size sensor it's kind of weird not just to add it to existing 40mp cameras via software, but overall sounds interesting.
Interesting. Love this aspect ratio. On the other hand GFX cameras offer this crop already and a bunch more. A used 50R goes for about 2000 EUR used.
Fujifilm should put all effort into developing an autofocus system which is as reliable as the competitors ones. If they don't succeed with that there will be no Fujifilm anymore in 2028.
I think i would buy it. I absolutely love my x100v and limiting me. However i shoot vertical photos 90% of the time. Used a few different Hasselblads and the xpan mode was incredible. Having a dedicated camera for this with an extra wide sensor the Size of 2x35 would be amazing
If film, nice rumor. If digital, senseless when XPAN is already included in GFX models. A format they should include in their 40MP sensor cameras. Now that would please me a lot more (since I have an X-T5), and their 90th birthday would be a great occasion to delight their customers.
Well, that's cool but I was hoping for a medium-format TLR.
Absolutely would get one. Mind you, I'd also like to get an X100VI and that's proving rather challenging. I do use the wide aspect ratio from time to time on my GFX 50SII. I think of the wonderful images Josef Koudelka creates (see his Ruins book for instance) with a panoramic film camera. Restricting oneself to that format = creative responses. YES FUJIFILM: please!
Thanks Patrick for this good news. I know 2028 isn’t exactly tomorrow but it’ll give me time to save money. Cause one thing is sure, if this rumor gets confirmed, it’s an instant buy for me.
A devoted digital pano camera would be amazing!
I'm ready, prepared and want it. 2028 is a bit too long for my taste, but if the camera comes then, it would be great.
I wonder why Fujifilm never released this before. I am a big fan of panoramic format. I`ll start saving money just for this camera.
Because an TX-1 shaped sensor is a bad idea given the geometry of lens design. What's the really foolish is the fact that they haven't put 65:24 crop in their 40mp sensor cameras already.
Fuji should finally make a camera with competent autofocus and reasonable price, otherwise competition will sweep them away in near future.
Wow that would be fantastic, it’ll go in sec I’d better start saving now as I think it’ll be a 100meg stabilised sensor costing £5000.
Wow I’ve always wanted the film version of the xpan‼️ now this brings great hope. And if they can make it monochrome, super nice‼️
Really cool..but why don't they concentrate on getting the X100VI shipped out first..haha
I think making a camera with square sensor will be much much valuable for now than making panoramic one.
OMG! I would be super happy! Thank you, Patrick!
Actually if Fujifilm developed a truly small camera with EVF the size of a Ricoh, I would jump on it.
I got excited and then remembered what happens every time Fuji releases something it will be out of stock forever.
Loving it!!!
Don’t mind this at all, but where’s the organic sensor camera with the tech they built together with Panasonic? Panasonic had a working video camera at the last Olympics in Japan and the it disappeared again.
One recent morning was that it had an on-sensor electronic ND FILTER.
Working prototypes doesn't mean it can be mass manufactured, remember there are dozens of companies in the supply chain for any high tech product.
@@budthecyborg4575 True, but a Panasonic representative at the time said they would be probably putting in a number of camera bodies, that at least sounds like they’d done some work on crunching to the numbers for manufacturing.
why can't they just put the option of panoramic crop directly into all x series cameras? that said, if this ever happens, i'll buy this day 1, owing also an xpan
Cropping images is totally pedestrian, the only reason a camera like this would need a four year development time is if they are giving it a bespoke sensor.
At first I thought you might share that it will be a monochrome body... Here's hoping that may also happen at some point 🙏🏻
that would be so incredibly sickkk
Yes please!!!
The baby wanted to hear more rumors :)
I’m still more into film, but sounds cool!
Hmm, not sure, depends how its implemented, if they just use the central cropped section of a standard sensor that would make some people quite mad I expect and custom letterbox shaped sensor would be frighteningly expensive. I think this one might be off.
Bravo I want one
lol and yesterday I was looking at eBay for xpan …. Still temped by film but new xpan yes please
I would 1 billion percent buy that over an x100Z or whatever the hell it will be then.
Wife happy, you always happy. Best wishes to you all
Count me in!
I would be first in line for a digital XPAN
Or try to make their cameras more available first?
Well done dad :)
The price for this camera might be on par with the CURRENT X-pan film camera. That cost is insane!!!
This makes no sense when it is so easy to make a panorama with any digital camera. What next? A square format camera? Actually I have almost never seen a panorama shot that was worth the film or pixels.
ok so preorders should start now. 1 per delivery address
I am actually relived they might release it on 2028, any earlier and i wont be able to afford it as i am an unemployed graduate 😅
I guess we can safely assume that Patrick's third son will arrive in 2028. Every time Fuji has a great announcement season, Patrick also has had a son 😊!
Oh heeeeeeck YES
Good goal!
PLEASE YES
damn, Im in
They should focus on fixing their autofocus first. It seems Fuji is not focused at all.
I hope by 2028 I can afford this camera lol
If it doesn't cost 3000 usd it will be a success.
Shit I wish it was 2028 already
this is stupid. so stupid. so they discontinued the xpro line because of low sales but are willing to develop a camera that will surely have low sales as well given how niche it is. smfh what a stupid company.
2028 is too near. What can we expect in 2034?
much rather have a mono only camera.
Bring X-Pro4 Fuji, not this sh*t
They are going to sell a hundred-thousand-bajillion of these.
it will not happen, they did not make the sensor themself. If they customize the sensor size from Sony, it will cost a lot.
It just halph of GFX-sensor, horisontal split gives perfect match to Xpan frame ratio. So, 2 panoramic sensors instead of one shoulf not be hard to produce
Xpro 4 ….
can't wait for Fujifilm to open up orders - I'll put my $$$$ down
Get him baptized
And it will cost 5000 dollars ;)
Shutup and take my money!
I can swear this guy is athene but cannot prove it.
not gonna happen
I wouldn't wait till 2028 even if they will give it to me for free 💀
Get yourself a life
@greger589 you think I'm incapable of disrespecting your mom ? Waiting 4 years for a maybe camera will be released. Ironically "get a life " is a great thing to say to you
Total waste of R&D money if you ask me, they should concentrate on developing a camera with autofocus that works.
AF is great I use it for commercial work.
No problem with the AF. Works great for my professional work.
Congratulations to the entire family 🎉
Cool idea! But I would really love to see a medium format fixed lens rangefinder….
"Shut Up And Take My Money!"
That would be amazing! I guess if it had interchangeable lenses it'd be GFX mount? Can't see an super wide format like that using an APS-C size sensor.
The thing is that you can already shoot in that format within the GFX cameras….so it might be an APS-C sensor…OR an X-mount with a full-frame sensor where the existing lenses would cover the wide middle section of it
Would this need a new sensor? If so why do they just bring out a full frame rangefinder and take on Leica .
@@SalarSayyad Massive overkill to go FF. The image circle for APS-C is 28.2mm, so you wouldn't need a sensor wider than about 26.5mm. Would a 27mm by 15.6mm sensor be gain something? A little but not much. It's not actually that much bigger than a 23.5mm sensor. And compared to the ~22mp crops to 65:24 you can already make on an X-Trans5, you'd only go up to something like 26mp. I don't think it'd be worthwhile to expand the sensor to gain a measly 4mp. Just optimize an X-Mount camera's interface (wider viewfinder and rear screen, and add a physical switch for aspect ratio) for TX-1.
They can’t even keep up production on current models
Please, please, please Fujifilm but don’t wait so long!!!
The dream. The absolute dream.
Do you think they could be waiting to see how the Vwfndr Keirin is received before launching something? I mean, the GFX will already give the 2x35mm crop, right? I don't know for sure because the GFX is out of my price range. But they're already making those.
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I’ll buy one! I had this idea a decade ago. Two aps-c sensors would be more than enough linear resolution and would keep it somewhat affordable.
GFX with GFX lenses, right?
Looks like I need to save up - just in case.
I hope fuji does this.
How about just add the 65:24 aspect ratio to the x-series to help with framing? Not a perfect solution but the 40mp sensor can handle it.
That's what I want, and the only thing that actually makes sense. I'm imagining something akin to the next iteration of the X-Pan line, just crop the standard 40mp to 65:24, with optimizations for viewing the crop in camera--wider OVF/EVF and wider rear screen, so that you have a larger preview to look at for composition. Add in a physical switch for quickly switching aspect ratios, and it'd be great. Any non-standard sensor shape just doesn't make sense.
Here's an idea: two adjacent sensors, seamless firmware integration into one jpg and raw file, but also: an attachment (if it is a fixed lens) for 3D, and then two side-by-side images from a 3D lens or lens adapter.
If it's an ACTUAL 65x24 mm sensor which you can shoot in panoramic mode or switch to a 3:2 aspect ratio FULL FRAME sensor mode using 36x24 mm of the sensor area then there may be interest. This would be incredible panoramic medium format image quality and a full frame release all in one. It could be very versatile and would be one of the largest consumer sensors made to date. The lenses would have to somehow be compact though, like the original XPAN.
If it's anything else, it's stupid.
The way the XPan works is that the lenses have larger image circle coverage. This allows you to expose more horizontally because the film exposure area is not limited to 36x24. However the vertical height of the film does not change meaning that vertical areas of the lens are effectively 'cropped' due to the film not being big enough to capture it.
This means that effectively, it is no different than cropping the image. It is not like an anamorphic lens that squeezes more information horizontally while retaining the same vertical field of view. Those lenses have unique characteristics. The XPan lenses have no such unique properties aside from having a larger image circle than FF or APSC lenses.
We have incredibly high resolution sensors already - just hype a big kaizen firmware update and call it the XPan update that adds 65:24 aspect ratio/frame lines to all of the 40 megapixel bodies. The image quality and resolution is still fantastic with an XPan aspect crop out of 40 MP on APSC. We don't need what will be a niche, overpriced, larger camera.
In fact, the GFX sensors are 44x33 and when they shoot in 65:24 aspect ratio it's effectively the same thing as if you made a special 40x15 sensor or something like that. It will literally be equal image quality with still large resolution out of the crop. I think it's stupid if they release a 44x15 sensor that can shoot in APSC mode with 24x15 mm sensor area. You have to go to the full 65x24 sensor area if you want this to be unique and release three compact lenses with it just like the original XPAN. Or hell, make the original XPAN lenses adaptable to it as well. If they do this with the special large sensor that converts to full frame you will win over fuji fans that have wanted an XPAN as well as a Full Frame fuji option.
The one benefit of a 44x15 sensor would be if you crop to aps-c 3:2 aspect ratio using it you could potentially use other Fuji X mount lenses with an adapter and GFX lenses when shooting in panoramic mode since they would have full horizontal sensor coverage? But then the lens mount would force it to be bigger. I dunno if it makes sense.
I'd need to see more from Fuji about what this is to determine if it actually makes sense or would be worth the money.
They would have to release a whole new set of lenses for the system as well. X Mount lenses only cover apsc and if they go with a cropped apsc sensor why even bother. GFX lenses could cover a panoramic format but are too large to fit on a TX-1 style body. Building compact autofocus lenses covering the xpan format is probably extremely difficult.
Cool product in my opinion. if done right, with latest sensor technology, and Fujifilm film recipes, could be a fun camera. I would drop money on something weird like that over the X100 series.
How about releasing a camera that is actually avaiable first Fuji?
By 2028 they’ll make 100 of them and charge $10,000 a piece
I’d buy it, even though I have an x-pro and GFX 50R. I love panos.
I love the idea but I'd prefer they invest in the R line to make the best possible + some nice compact lenses. Fujifilm is the only camera system offering a vast "in camera crop" experience with XPAN, 6x7, square and others. That's sufficient to provide the shooting experience, flexibility and image quality. If they'd make a panoramic sensor, I bet it'd not be wider that the current super full frame, not use a dedicated mount.
If FUJIFILM were to create a new standard, I'd rather like to see them open the 60x70cm space with a huge sensor (it's doesn't need to have more than 100M px at first).