I tried the green one on in the Oris store and had a moment of silence as I took in this handsome piece. It’s a stunner and the sales people noticed it and thought they had me but it had a fragility to it you don’t expect from a diver and I handed it back. Really is a looker though.
I've been really impressed with the Oris Sixty Five every time I've had it on my wrist. For me, the 42 mm version is just about perfect: elegant case design, wonderful domed crystal, and that blue dial is chameleon-like in how it interacts with the viewer in different lighting conditions. I've come very close to purchasing one and maybe some day in the future I will. I completely agree with your assessment Bruce, this one has an strong "it" factor that makes it stand out above its competitors.
Looks incredible! So strange i have been googleling that exact watch lately, might end up as an early Xmas present for myself. Thx for the video Bruce!
Great review, Bruce! I have the 40mm Divers 65 and it’s actually the most accurate automatic I own - well within chronometer specs. Totally agree that they nailed the design on this one. It’s one of my favorites.
I have to agree, I’ve got the same Oris 40mm, same movement as this, and it runs almost spit on, almost as good as my Presages. I thin Oris do the Seiko thing and give accuracy ratings 8n the worst case scenario.
I had the oris aquis for awhile. It was +3 every single day of ownership. Most watches at this price point use the same movement or the actual eta 2824. Same thing. And they also list the movement specs as similar to oris. So it’s not unusual or a fault of the watch or anything. You have to jump up and spend more than $1300 if you want better than an eta 2824 or its equivalent
Glad to hear your watch is/was outperforming the specs. Do you still own it? Has it remained accurate? I am trying to hunt one down these days, and accuracy (within reason) does matter to me. Thank you.
Great review Bruce. Picked one of these up, black dial. I’m really enjoying it! Bracelet is very comfortable thanks to that taper. I agree, the lume is not very good. Passable on the hands and pip, awful on the indices. Would be nice to see sharper finishing on the bezel. A little bevelling would have gon a long way for the case finish. I find the lugs slightly long also. I am being picky though, as a package I really enjoy wearing this one! The domed sapphire adds quite a lot. The comfort, low profile of the case is fantastic. I’m impressed with the bezel action as well. 42 is a nice size though due to the length of the lugs I would not recommend this watch to someone with small wrists.
Hi Bruce, Great vid liked the new intro. I have this watch which I purchased last year, it’s a stunner. With regards to movement I always get a little concerned when we pass judgement on certain movements, I must be a lucky one because mine has been running to +1 to 2 secs a day for a year now!
Own the two iterations of 65 love them often and think I prefer wearing them to my Rolex sports models . Beautiful low profile and imo wonderfully executed . Both run around two secs fast per day so no problem with accuracy. Over the years I have owned six oris pieces and the least accurate was 4 plus per day so I buy with confidence . Worst case scenario regulation however You would have to be very unlucky for this to be required and it shouldn't detract from a brilliant piece..
very nice watch... 100M is the minimum I believe for ISO 6425 so clearly this watch is for those who can appreciate a nice design with a diving capability. I do agree with other posters though; a 200M rating would go a long way for marketing purposes. (Although most of us wouldn't even come close to breaching 30M...).
They did a good job of making a vintage dive watch and using modern materials. The domed crystal using sapphire instead of acrylic and no crown guards as would be typical of half a century ago. Keeping it to 100 meter WR and I wouldn't be surprised if the pip was purposely misaligned lol. But overall, it's a good job for a vintage recreation, just that price is way way over.
No it shudnt. Hardly anyone dives as deep as 200mtrs. N u cant even swim on a baby's pool. So stop bitching and complaining. If u hv a problem make you own damn watch. Obviously this watch is nt good enuff for a bitchy baby like you.
I love retro divers and this one is gorgeous. It’s on my list but I was wishing it had a better movement. Now they offer this with the in house caliber 400, which is more accurate and has a 5 day power reserve, but it’s over $3k
I've tried both 20 and 22mm on these watches and they wear fine. I actually have a preference for the 20mm with a bit of the springbar exposed gives it that proper classic look.
I've had two of these watches for over a year, different variations. Both are accurate to within 10 seconds per WEEK when I wear them. So I can't speak to other people's experiences but I've basically stopped wearing most of my other watches that cost thousands more.
Is 10s per week considered good for a 1000$ watch? (I'm asking because I really have no idea 🙂). I have had three entry level Seikos (90-200$) and after having them regulated one runs +4s/week and the other two about +12s/week (when they have been worn a few days and have settled).
Nice, balanced review. I think I'm going to go for the 36mm bronze bezel. It'll be my first auto. I tried the 40mm and while I loved it, it could have been smaller. I have fallen both sides about the date position and come down in favour of the more deliberate looking 3 o'clock position on the 36, same as on the 42. And it fits the original aesthetic. My ageing eyes will struggle with the date window anyway, but the 6 o'clock position of the 40mm is just slightly harder to read. Yes, it's a lot of money for a Sellita, but the overall design is a winner for me. Ultimately there's nothing that quite competes with it at the price point. Slimmer than most, certainly than Seikos I've seen and the crystal is sublime. Even if I could afford a BB58, I find them a bit too chunky. Just need to get to an AD who has the little one in stock to try it on...
@@BruceWilliams Exactly for the cost. I was interested but....Thats what i'm talking about at the local forum now.and we grumble for the seiko misaligned bezel 150-300e
Hi Bruce, thanks for another objective review. I tried the bronze bezel version on at the AD recently, it’s a stunning looker, but the amount of play in the bezel turned me off.
I think if they use a higher level movement inside they have to make a better design to have shock resistant or magnetic resistant, that will cost them a lot and we won't be able to purchase it.That is a pretty dressing watch but not something serious timepieces like a pilot watch or diving piece .
I really like the aesthetics of the 65 but for the price I would and did go with the Aquis in green at 39mm because I thought it was better built and the lume is much better. I also like the date at 6 for symmetry. I have my Black Bay 58 for the retro style diver.
when i was looking for a watch my budget was 1500$ and i went to see literally everything. My biggest love was Oris Aquis Date, but it was 2000$ and then i found used Tag Heuer Aquaracer with ceramic bezel for 1350$ and i bought that. I stil think that Oris was better built. Felt more solid in my hand. Love Oris.
It's a beautiful watch which I have had many compliments on but I did have accuracy problems and my AD sent it back to get regulated under warranty. By the way the bracelet is fantastic!
It would be nice, in addition to outlining the maximum variance of acceptability for the movement, to provide your own account of its actual on wrist accuracy. I have the same movement in my Classic Date by Oris, and it's been phenomenal. I worn it almost daily for over three years, and it's never wavered beyond -5 to +5. It's usually plus 3. Thanks for the review though.
Tahnk you Mike for sharing your watch with us. Bruce at that price points, given the significant deficits of this watch, how does it compare to the Ginault or (at slightly higher price point) the MM300? Thank you for another excellent video :)
Great review! One major thing that is unacceptable about this watch is that it should have a minimum of 20 BAR of water resistance. It should not be called a diver if it doesn’t have that 20BAR on it! That is unless it’s supposed to be a desk diver? But for the price that Oris is asking for it should be 20 BAR. Sorry but it Kills me when these Swiss manufacturers do this, you have Seiko that does it for much less. Great review again! 👍
That is a point I have no issue with. Its not iso 6425 rated but could still be used scuba diving without a problem. Saturation diving would be a no go but I doubt real saturation divers use anything other than dive computers.
@@BruceWilliams Yep, exactly. So it's always so amusing to see people say "oh it must be 200m+ to be a *real* diver" - completely detached from reality.
Beautiful Oris as always. About accuracy since I have a lot of vintage watches I really couldn't care less about it, when I want accuracy one of my Satellite Waves does the job like no other!.
Only gripe is the aluminum bezel, they could have gone for a better material at this price point Also, I wish it had better WR, and a more standard 20mm lug width But small niggles like these aside, it's a great looking watch, and I'm planning to go get one today
my $250 sea-gull watch runs +5--+15 and it annoys the hell out of me. i have to adjust it every 3-4 days, and i basically never trust that it will be right. i would be super mad if i paid $1000+ and got worse accuracy. also that bit in the manual about accuracy is basically like "hey wear quartz if you care" and thats pretty lame. the watch looks great though. my goal watch is currently a sinn 566 I.
@@Villex93 tbh the seagull is close to exactly +15 every day. i could probably get it regulated to be within 5 seconds. i measured it for 3 weeks and it averaged 15 with little variance. i would hesitate to talk down on the brand. its quite nice.
If you have a watch that has a deviation of +20 seconds a day (there are 86,400 seconds in a day) your watch is 99.977% accurate. If that's not good enough for you, than buy an automatic chronometer movement, which should run -4/+6 seconds a day. And if that's not good enough for you buy a Casio quartz watch. Maybe then you'll be happy, but I very much doubt that. Maybe automatic watches just aren't for you.
You can turn it in for adjustment, wont cost a fortune to get it to run a few seconds + or -, my SKX007 dose around +6 per day, im pretty happy about that.
my seiko presage with the 4r35 runs at like +20 and its just too much... but my seiko skx with the 7s26 runs at like -+5 secs.... luck of the draw i guess
Great video indeed. I love the new intro by the way. Please don't think I'm bothered by critique, as those are the same negatives I have about it as well. The funny thing is that I never noticed the riveted bracelet before or the lume pip. I guess I dont pay that close attention to my watches...which is probably a good thing. The review was great! Keep up the awesome videos!
Are you determining accuracy from their print or the actual usage of the watch? :) I have four 2824/Sellita watches (Longines, Zelos, 2x Oris) and they are all +4-5 spd very consistently, these movements must have some basic regulation at the factory before being sold to the watch makers
I always test in a 24 hour period compared to my atomic syncing gshock. This one is about +17. My 2 previous Oris were +10 and my father had one that was nearly spot on without fail. I've generally has better luck with 2824s. Oris must buy the sw200s as is from sellita who I am guessing regulate in 3 positions
I wish that you had talked about the quality of the bezel click, at this price range that can be a deal maker for me. I recently acquired a Yema skin diver at a similar price and the bezel click is horrible, I had watched every youtube video about yema and nobody had mentioned the disappointing bezel click.
The three oris watches I’ve owned have been within 5 seconds +/- per day with the diver 65 being 3 seconds slow. I tend to take what is printed in the manuals with a grain of salt. It would be nice if they did make an effort though so they are at least somewhat uniform.
I loved my Ohs 65 40mm version but I could not take the crown. It really bored into my hand and in the end I sold it. It's too bad because I really like both versions.
Regarding the accuracy of the Selita 200 movement, there are a bunch of Swiss and German watches in the $1000+ price category that use that movement and are not chronometer grade. Certainly not unique to Oris - the Sinn 104 does too, and is not chronometer certified either. And people love that watch, too. For what it’s worth, my Aquis performs within +5 per day, even though the manual doesn’t say so. (Then again, rumor has it that Oris uses a top grade movement in the Aquis - possibly they use a lower grade in the Diver 65.) I think Jody on JOMW has reviewed the Diver 65, and he usually tests out on a time grapher to independently assess accuracy. That kind of test is more likely to give a good data point about accuracy than what Oris prints in the manual, I think.
$1400 is quite a bit of money for a watch. I expect a watch of this caliber to be at last 200 meter water resistant. I also expect that it is regulated within +/- 8 seconds per day. Call me old fashioned or a watch snob but I just lost a lot of respect for Oris. I didn't know that they only care for their designs. Funny, I came into your review thinking that I really like the Oris brand. But now I'm really disappointed. And you did a really good job of pointing out the highlights of this watch! The design of this watch IS really good!
Nice review. I'm sorry if Im wrong, but dont most "name brand" swiss autos use base movements for watches in that price range? Tag, Oris, Longines, etc.. the list goes on. It seems to me like Oris is just letting ya know "hey, u might get lucky and get COSC specs, or you might not." Most swiss brands dont mention anything about accuracy, unless you get a chronometer.
The Longines Hydro Conquest with ceramic bezel - in my fave grey - kills this watch! Similar price point and a better movement. Of course this is my opinion YMMV 😉
How does this compare to Sinn U1? I know its 2 very different dive watch but I am looking for a beater and both of them are around the same price. Btw the is it me or the doomed sapphire crystal looks better than speedy pro as it does not have the milky ring effect?
Noticing the flaws of the watch and comparing it to the price point just illustrates that the current consumer culture of timepieces puts a premium on everything. I hear people talk about how a Submariner used to only cost about $3000 (around the year 2000), but today they are $8K+. It's all about trends and demand. People want to buy "swiss made" watches, and they command premium prices - it's just a shame that the high quality brands (Rolex, Omega, etc) and the master quality brands (Patek, AL&S, JLC, and others) are the ones putting in the effort to refine every detail. You get what you pay for, and these days, we're paying so much more to know that someone thought of everything.
I got my bronze bezel version just before Christmas and it was running at +5 seconds per day for about the first week of wearing. (very respectable) I checked again a couple of weeks ago and it had gained 13 seconds over a seven day period. This equates to + 1.85 seconds per day. (exceptional for any mechanical watch and unCOSC certified watch) As for the water resistance, - 100m is fine for me. This is more of a fashion watch than a serious diver and I have no intention of ever wearing it even for surface swimming. If I need to wear a watch while swimming I'll be going for my £15 Casio rather than my £1,500 Oris and I believe this would be the case for most buyers. I know some people swim in much more expensive watches than this but to my mind they fall into one of three categories:- 1. Serious divers. 2. People too wealthy to care. 3. Foolhardy poseurs. Anyway, back to the divers 65. I think it's a great watch and I would highly recommend it.
I would take the Aquis any day...but, I am a big guy with a big 8.25 inch wrist. The 65 feels too thin and too light and the 100m water resistance gives me very little confidence in a dive watch.
This particular model?? The only ones I have seen as 40mm are the other diver 65 (with numbers on the dial) and the movember version (leather strap and bronze bezel)
A dive watch should be at least 200m WR. The bezel pip not centered is just unforgivable. Bad Lume is just bad. Accuracy is expected at this price point. I have way cheaper watches that are more accurate than +10-20 seconds a day. Just bad regulations. I don’t like Sellita base movements either. The looks of the dial can’t make up for all that.
It's a close call and one I've considered. I prefer the profile of the Oris, myself, and find the Sinn a bit too boxy. I like the display back and WR of the Sinn, and tend too think that if you're going to have a date, why not have a day/date like Sinn. They say the early bird catches the worm, but it's the second mouse who gets the cheese. I still prefer the Oris..
I tried the green one on in the Oris store and had a moment of silence as I took in this handsome piece. It’s a stunner and the sales people noticed it and thought they had me but it had a fragility to it you don’t expect from a diver and I handed it back. Really is a looker though.
That deep blue lacquered dial looks like the deep ocean. Stunning.
@Kevin Kellen no one gives a shit. Now you know. 😉
I will never forget that red rotor! I love to have a oris
Majestic watch! I will have it very soon
The 40mm Movember edition with bronze bezel is one of my all time favorite watches ever! I just melt each time I see one.
That one looks fantastic
I saw it in a shop, held it and remember not being able to put it down. It hypnotised me, it is stunning.
I've been really impressed with the Oris Sixty Five every time I've had it on my wrist. For me, the 42 mm version is just about perfect: elegant case design, wonderful domed crystal, and that blue dial is chameleon-like in how it interacts with the viewer in different lighting conditions. I've come very close to purchasing one and maybe some day in the future I will. I completely agree with your assessment Bruce, this one has an strong "it" factor that makes it stand out above its competitors.
Well said as always Lee
Have the bronze bezel version and really appreciate it on leather strap. Reminds me of vintage submariner.
Looks incredible! So strange i have been googleling that exact watch lately, might end up as an early Xmas present for myself. Thx for the video Bruce!
Great review, Bruce! I have the 40mm Divers 65 and it’s actually the most accurate automatic I own - well within chronometer specs. Totally agree that they nailed the design on this one. It’s one of my favorites.
Excellent!!
I have to agree, I’ve got the same Oris 40mm, same movement as this, and it runs almost spit on, almost as good as my Presages. I thin Oris do the Seiko thing and give accuracy ratings 8n the worst case scenario.
I had the oris aquis for awhile. It was +3 every single day of ownership. Most watches at this price point use the same movement or the actual eta 2824. Same thing. And they also list the movement specs as similar to oris. So it’s not unusual or a fault of the watch or anything. You have to jump up and spend more than $1300 if you want better than an eta 2824 or its equivalent
Glad to hear your watch is/was outperforming the specs. Do you still own it? Has it remained accurate?
I am trying to hunt one down these days, and accuracy (within reason) does matter to me. Thank you.
@@pete5534 Sadly, it's no longer in my collection. I miss it often!
Great review Bruce. Picked one of these up, black dial. I’m really enjoying it! Bracelet is very comfortable thanks to that taper. I agree, the lume is not very good. Passable on the hands and pip, awful on the indices. Would be nice to see sharper finishing on the bezel. A little bevelling would have gon a long way for the case finish. I find the lugs slightly long also. I am being picky though, as a package I really enjoy wearing this one! The domed sapphire adds quite a lot. The comfort, low profile of the case is fantastic. I’m impressed with the bezel action as well. 42 is a nice size though due to the length of the lugs I would not recommend this watch to someone with small wrists.
us watch people will always be picky we are detail minded people, 1 small disappointment can ruin everything for us.
Hi Bruce, Great vid liked the new intro. I have this watch which I purchased last year, it’s a stunner. With regards to movement I always get a little concerned when we pass judgement on certain movements, I must be a lucky one because mine has been running to +1 to 2 secs a day for a year now!
This Oris diver 65 retro style has pretty much jumped to the pretty much top of my list.... and for a bit over a 1000$... KILLA!
Own the two iterations of 65 love them often and think I prefer wearing them to my Rolex sports models . Beautiful low profile and imo wonderfully executed . Both run around two secs fast per day so no problem with accuracy. Over the years I have owned six oris pieces and the least accurate was 4 plus per day so I buy with confidence . Worst case scenario regulation however You would have to be very unlucky for this to be required and it shouldn't detract from a brilliant piece..
very nice watch... 100M is the minimum I believe for ISO 6425 so clearly this watch is for those who can appreciate a nice design with a diving capability. I do agree with other posters though; a 200M rating would go a long way for marketing purposes. (Although most of us wouldn't even come close to breaching 30M...).
They did a good job of making a vintage dive watch and using modern materials. The domed crystal using sapphire instead of acrylic and no crown guards as would be typical of half a century ago. Keeping it to 100 meter WR and I wouldn't be surprised if the pip was purposely misaligned lol. But overall, it's a good job for a vintage recreation, just that price is way way over.
Nice watch but it should be at least 200m of waterresistant. It is a diver. But it is a beautiful piece. Nice review again
No it shudnt. Hardly anyone dives as deep as 200mtrs. N u cant even swim on a baby's pool. So stop bitching and complaining. If u hv a problem make you own damn watch. Obviously this watch is nt good enuff for a bitchy baby like you.
sodapop like you ever plan to go swimming let alone get any water on your watches....
this watch is iso, so that means 100m is the minimum and it will handle about 175 meters
I love retro divers and this one is gorgeous. It’s on my list but I was wishing it had a better movement. Now they offer this with the in house caliber 400, which is more accurate and has a 5 day power reserve, but it’s over $3k
One thing that irks me is when watch makers go for odd lug width. 21 makes it hard to go for after market strap.
gfwong79 i hear you there.
I've tried both 20 and 22mm on these watches and they wear fine. I actually have a preference for the 20mm with a bit of the springbar exposed gives it that proper classic look.
@@ihategoogle5910 You still need a 21mm spring bar don't you
Or are you saying a 20mm spring bar works just fine
I've had two of these watches for over a year, different variations. Both are accurate to within 10 seconds per WEEK when I wear them. So I can't speak to other people's experiences but I've basically stopped wearing most of my other watches that cost thousands more.
Is 10s per week considered good for a 1000$ watch? (I'm asking because I really have no idea 🙂). I have had three entry level Seikos (90-200$) and after having them regulated one runs +4s/week and the other two about +12s/week (when they have been worn a few days and have settled).
Nice, balanced review. I think I'm going to go for the 36mm bronze bezel. It'll be my first auto. I tried the 40mm and while I loved it, it could have been smaller. I have fallen both sides about the date position and come down in favour of the more deliberate looking 3 o'clock position on the 36, same as on the 42. And it fits the original aesthetic. My ageing eyes will struggle with the date window anyway, but the 6 o'clock position of the 40mm is just slightly harder to read.
Yes, it's a lot of money for a Sellita, but the overall design is a winner for me. Ultimately there's nothing that quite competes with it at the price point. Slimmer than most, certainly than Seikos I've seen and the crystal is sublime. Even if I could afford a BB58, I find them a bit too chunky. Just need to get to an AD who has the little one in stock to try it on...
Beautiful
Good review we heard something we don't know!! About accuracy...
Kinda surprising isn't it? Especially for the cost. 2300 new or 1400 grey market
@@BruceWilliams Exactly for the cost. I was interested but....Thats what i'm talking about at the local forum now.and we grumble for the seiko misaligned bezel 150-300e
Dimitris really stupid paragraph however my aquis runs +3/5 seconds a day
+20sec? Really! Not acceptable at this price.
Good looking watch considering the price. Definitely the movement is a negative aspect
Hi Bruce, thanks for another objective review. I tried the bronze bezel version on at the AD recently, it’s a stunning looker, but the amount of play in the bezel turned me off.
I think if they use a higher level movement inside they have to make a better design to have shock resistant or magnetic resistant, that will cost them a lot and we won't be able to purchase it.That is a pretty dressing watch but not something serious timepieces like a pilot watch or diving piece .
刘Michael Good comment - I’m sure you’re right but it costs the buyer A LOT anyway to buy. Overpriced imo
This is very accurate! Don't worry
I love the cream and navy blue.
It's nice. Reminds me of the Alaska state flag
I really like the aesthetics of the 65 but for the price I would and did go with the Aquis in green at 39mm because I thought it was better built and the lume is much better. I also like the date at 6 for symmetry. I have my Black Bay 58 for the retro style diver.
Beautiful design. 21mm lug with would kill it for me.
I own this watch and 22mm Hodinkee leather and Barton NATO straps that I bought for another watch work fine.
Does it come with a leather strap ? Looks like the case in this video ?
I prefer the Aquis in the Oris line, great looking watch though
I agree with everything you say.
It's very easy on the eye.
when i was looking for a watch my budget was 1500$ and i went to see literally everything. My biggest love was Oris Aquis Date, but it was 2000$ and then i found used Tag Heuer Aquaracer with ceramic bezel for 1350$ and i bought that. I stil think that Oris was better built. Felt more solid in my hand. Love Oris.
It's a beautiful watch which I have had many compliments on but I did have accuracy problems and my AD sent it back to get regulated under warranty. By the way the bracelet is fantastic!
Would love to see this vs the seiko sbdc51 retro / 62mass. I can’t make my mind up between the two and I’m flip flopping on my next purchase.
Nice watch. Oris seems to have picked up some of Seiko's bad habits (misalignment, movement regulation, etc)
Shots fired at Seiko!
It would be nice, in addition to outlining the maximum variance of acceptability for the movement, to provide your own account of its actual on wrist accuracy. I have the same movement in my Classic Date by Oris, and it's been phenomenal. I worn it almost daily for over three years, and it's never wavered beyond -5 to +5. It's usually plus 3.
Thanks for the review though.
My aquis was +3 from day 1. Almost all people’s are going to be well under +10
Tahnk you Mike for sharing your watch with us. Bruce at that price points, given the significant deficits of this watch, how does it compare to the Ginault or (at slightly higher price point) the MM300? Thank you for another excellent video :)
Great review! One major thing that is unacceptable about this watch is that it should have a minimum of 20 BAR of water resistance. It should not be called a diver if it doesn’t have that 20BAR on it! That is unless it’s supposed to be a desk diver? But for the price that Oris is asking for it should be 20 BAR. Sorry but it Kills me when these Swiss manufacturers do this, you have Seiko that does it for much less. Great review again! 👍
That is a point I have no issue with. Its not iso 6425 rated but could still be used scuba diving without a problem. Saturation diving would be a no go but I doubt real saturation divers use anything other than dive computers.
... Do you even know the depth limit for recreational diving?
@@ElijsDima recreation diving limit is 30 meters suggested by PADI
@@BruceWilliams Yep, exactly. So it's always so amusing to see people say "oh it must be 200m+ to be a *real* diver" - completely detached from reality.
@@ElijsDima agree totally. You can swim with confidence with this piece.
Beautiful Oris as always. About accuracy since I have a lot of vintage watches I really couldn't care less about it, when I want accuracy one of my Satellite Waves does the job like no other!.
If Oris would get rid of the "wart" look of the screws coming out of the side of the links I would have already owned one.
Only gripe is the aluminum bezel, they could have gone for a better material at this price point
Also, I wish it had better WR, and a more standard 20mm lug width
But small niggles like these aside, it's a great looking watch, and I'm planning to go get one today
Oris is back
Should have a elabore level movement in this price point. Right?
yes and that is why te second hand price is %40 of the retail price
A beauty 4 sure
It's a nice watch. I think I prefer the version with the dark date window at 6 o'clock position. Might be a limited edition that one.
my $250 sea-gull watch runs +5--+15 and it annoys the hell out of me. i have to adjust it every 3-4 days, and i basically never trust that it will be right. i would be super mad if i paid $1000+ and got worse accuracy. also that bit in the manual about accuracy is basically like "hey wear quartz if you care" and thats pretty lame. the watch looks great though. my goal watch is currently a sinn 566 I.
@@Villex93 tbh the seagull is close to exactly +15 every day. i could probably get it regulated to be within 5 seconds. i measured it for 3 weeks and it averaged 15 with little variance. i would hesitate to talk down on the brand. its quite nice.
@@Villex93 also its far more regular than my seiko 5s which will be +20 one day and -5 the next.
If you have a watch that has a deviation of +20 seconds a day (there are 86,400 seconds in a day) your watch is 99.977% accurate. If that's not good enough for you, than buy an automatic chronometer movement, which should run -4/+6 seconds a day. And if that's not good enough for you buy a Casio quartz watch. Maybe then you'll be happy, but I very much doubt that. Maybe automatic watches just aren't for you.
You can turn it in for adjustment, wont cost a fortune to get it to run a few seconds + or -, my SKX007 dose around +6 per day, im pretty happy about that.
my seiko presage with the 4r35 runs at like +20 and its just too much... but my seiko skx with the 7s26 runs at like -+5 secs.... luck of the draw i guess
I'm a sucker for a pretty face. Great review, thanks!
I like the Oris 65. My only issue is with the bracelet tapering from 21mm to 15mm.
Great video indeed. I love the new intro by the way. Please don't think I'm bothered by critique, as those are the same negatives I have about it as well. The funny thing is that I never noticed the riveted bracelet before or the lume pip. I guess I dont pay that close attention to my watches...which is probably a good thing. The review was great! Keep up the awesome videos!
Thanks brotha!
Are you determining accuracy from their print or the actual usage of the watch? :) I have four 2824/Sellita watches (Longines, Zelos, 2x Oris) and they are all +4-5 spd very consistently, these movements must have some basic regulation at the factory before being sold to the watch makers
I always test in a 24 hour period compared to my atomic syncing gshock. This one is about +17. My 2 previous Oris were +10 and my father had one that was nearly spot on without fail. I've generally has better luck with 2824s. Oris must buy the sw200s as is from sellita who I am guessing regulate in 3 positions
I wish that you had talked about the quality of the bezel click, at this price range that can be a deal maker for me. I recently acquired a Yema skin diver at a similar price and the bezel click is horrible, I had watched every youtube video about yema and nobody had mentioned the disappointing bezel click.
The three oris watches I’ve owned have been within 5 seconds +/- per day with the diver 65 being 3 seconds slow. I tend to take what is printed in the manuals with a grain of salt. It would be nice if they did make an effort though so they are at least somewhat uniform.
Yeah the 4 Oris's I've tried have been everywhere from spot on to +17 per day. Luck of the draw
I loved my Ohs 65 40mm version but I could not take the crown. It really bored into my hand and in the end I sold it. It's too bad because I really like both versions.
very DRAMATIC!!!!!
Regarding the accuracy of the Selita 200 movement, there are a bunch of Swiss and German watches in the $1000+ price category that use that movement and are not chronometer grade. Certainly not unique to Oris - the Sinn 104 does too, and is not chronometer certified either. And people love that watch, too.
For what it’s worth, my Aquis performs within +5 per day, even though the manual doesn’t say so. (Then again, rumor has it that Oris uses a top grade movement in the Aquis - possibly they use a lower grade in the Diver 65.)
I think Jody on JOMW has reviewed the Diver 65, and he usually tests out on a time grapher to independently assess accuracy. That kind of test is more likely to give a good data point about accuracy than what Oris prints in the manual, I think.
$1400 is quite a bit of money for a watch. I expect a watch of this caliber to be at last 200 meter water resistant. I also expect that it is regulated within +/- 8 seconds per day. Call me old fashioned or a watch snob but I just lost a lot of respect for Oris. I didn't know that they only care for their designs. Funny, I came into your review thinking that I really like the Oris brand. But now I'm really disappointed. And you did a really good job of pointing out the highlights of this watch! The design of this watch IS really good!
Nice review. I'm sorry if Im wrong, but dont most "name brand" swiss autos use base movements for watches in that price range? Tag, Oris, Longines, etc.. the list goes on. It seems to me like Oris is just letting ya know "hey, u might get lucky and get COSC specs, or you might not." Most swiss brands dont mention anything about accuracy, unless you get a chronometer.
There are many who use base calibers though some do some nice upgrading
The only time I worry about my watch being accurate is when I am setting another watch.
That came with brown leather strap aswell?
Great looking watch. Can I please ask what your wrist size is?
The Longines Hydro Conquest with ceramic bezel - in my fave grey - kills this watch! Similar price point and a better movement. Of course this is my opinion YMMV 😉
Yeah it is really hot stuff that Oris.
Hi,i have this Oris 65 42mm with rubber bands can you tell me where can I get a stainless steel braclet for it?thanks
Asking in 2020, how do you feel this fare with the the new Seiko SPB149? Same level of finesse?
how can they not regulate it. did you test the watch on how it was running?
Oris makes rad stuff
Agreed
Please review a Sinn and it would be really cool if you would review one of the unconventional ones and not the 103 ,104 or the U series
I would love that. Watcbuys will not lend review units. Though another channel is going to lend a Sinn 104 for a video
Nice ORIS. I wonder, did you do a review on that DWISS watch you had on your wrist at the beginning of the video?
Now worries. I've just seen the thumbnail of your DWISS review.
How does this compare to Sinn U1? I know its 2 very different dive watch but I am looking for a beater and both of them are around the same price.
Btw the is it me or the doomed sapphire crystal looks better than speedy pro as it does not have the milky ring effect?
I actually liked the look but the negatives you mention are relevant
An honest review... Thank you
The endlinks look too short height-wise and doesn't integrate well with the lugs. The lugs stick out beyond the endlink's height. That's too bad.
Did the manual really say, "don't lose sleep over it." In other word, get over it. lol good business communication.
Noticing the flaws of the watch and comparing it to the price point just illustrates that the current consumer culture of timepieces puts a premium on everything. I hear people talk about how a Submariner used to only cost about $3000 (around the year 2000), but today they are $8K+. It's all about trends and demand. People want to buy "swiss made" watches, and they command premium prices - it's just a shame that the high quality brands (Rolex, Omega, etc) and the master quality brands (Patek, AL&S, JLC, and others) are the ones putting in the effort to refine every detail. You get what you pay for, and these days, we're paying so much more to know that someone thought of everything.
is this model 40mm diameter?
What's the bracelet size as I have a big wrist....cant seem to find links if I will need them....
is it heavy?
I got my bronze bezel version just before Christmas and it was running at +5 seconds per day for about the first week of wearing. (very respectable)
I checked again a couple of weeks ago and it had gained 13 seconds over a seven day period. This equates to + 1.85 seconds per day. (exceptional for any mechanical watch and unCOSC certified watch)
As for the water resistance, - 100m is fine for me. This is more of a fashion watch than a serious diver and I have no intention of ever wearing it even for surface swimming. If I need to wear a watch while swimming I'll be going for my £15 Casio rather than my £1,500 Oris and I believe this would be the case for most buyers.
I know some people swim in much more expensive watches than this but to my mind they fall into one of three categories:-
1. Serious divers.
2. People too wealthy to care.
3. Foolhardy poseurs.
Anyway, back to the divers 65.
I think it's a great watch and I would highly recommend it.
As usual, love the watch until I see the odd lug width that renders all of my 22mm straps useless
I prefer the Aquis, I've had 2 of them, they both ran about +5 seconds per day and the lume is fantastic
A Lott of company's put a large tolerance in for time ! Did you time it over 24 hrs ? My bet is it would not have been more that 4 seconds each way !
Sadly this one has been averaging +17 per day
@@BruceWilliams deal breaker indeed !
A 5 position regulation from a local watchmaker would be money well spent
Great review brother. Love your channel.
Thanks!
What is the weight in grams of this watch in stainless steel bracelet?
i thought i a “dive watch” is a watch that has at the very least 150m of water resistance, or is it 200 now?
Good review but for the price the Mido ocean star is a much better option.
How is this for a budget of $1k? I’m seeing it online in the $2k range...
The moment I heard aluminium bezel, I quit this watch. 😂 By the way, this is good video
interestingly enough, I prefer aluminum to ceramic. I prefer the bezel to not be shiny, and i'd rather it scratch than crack. To each his/her own
if you know what a tool watch is you should know that ceremic is only made to sell better. it has only negative things if it coms to tool watches
@@markyhundreds agreed not a fan of these shiny ceramic bezels
hi, do you prefer this Oris or the Oris Aquis?
I would take the Aquis any day...but, I am a big guy with a big 8.25 inch wrist. The 65 feels too thin and too light and the 100m water resistance gives me very little confidence in a dive watch.
Honestly the aquis is nicer but I would take a 65 over everyone except the gorgeous green sunburst version. That aquis is so sick
whats your wrist size
Wish they made a 40mm version
... they do.
they do.
They do have some 40mm versions. 36mm too
This particular model?? The only ones I have seen as 40mm are the other diver 65 (with numbers on the dial) and the movember version (leather strap and bronze bezel)
@@andresrubio3910 black dial model for sure. Not sure about blue dial.
You sound like the geeza off secureteam
I have no idea what that is
@@BruceWilliams RUclips channel, it wasn't a insult, I was basically saying you have a very relaxing voice, and I love your videos
Below 1k swiss diver: Marathon GSAR?
Unless you go for dress diver not tool diver :)
You should try get your hands on the Yema Superman Heritage. Similar design, yet used by French Airforce in 1970s.
I'll they will send me one I would be happy to feature it
Mine is 3 sec faster per day. Bracelet is not superb. But watch itself beautiful
At 1.57 min the printing quality of the font is not satisfactory for the price tag..
A dive watch should be at least 200m WR. The bezel pip not centered is just unforgivable. Bad Lume is just bad. Accuracy is expected at this price point. I have way cheaper watches that are more accurate than +10-20 seconds a day. Just bad regulations. I don’t like Sellita base movements either. The looks of the dial can’t make up for all that.
I think Sinn 104 is superior watch in this price range
It's a close call and one I've considered. I prefer the profile of the Oris, myself, and find the Sinn a bit too boxy. I like the display back and WR of the Sinn, and tend too think that if you're going to have a date, why not have a day/date like Sinn.
They say the early bird catches the worm, but it's the second mouse who gets the cheese. I still prefer the Oris..
38 hours power reserve is ridiculous.