For Byleth a theme I'd like is "Guiding the Youngsters" a focus on them being a teacher Start with Ness and Lucas, then Young Link, then Inkling (in school uniform), then Pit (since he can't read), Joker (also a school uniform), and end with Robin since they're a strategist like Byleth and it's like they're trying to determine the superior scholar. And I can't think of anything else for the boss
For Byleth, I have an idea to fix his/her route & make it less like Lucina's. Sort of combining Odyssey Central's idea with what we actually got. Round 1: Marth - Representing the Sword Of The Creator. Round 2: Roy & Zero Suit Samus - Zero Suit Samus represents the whip abilities of the sword & Marth is an ally. Round 3: Ike, Link, Young Link, & Toon Link - The three Links represent Failnaught (a bow) & Roy is an ally. Round 4: Lucina, Robin, Chrom, & King Dedede - King Dedede represents Aymr (an axe even though Dedede uses a hammer) & Ike is an ally. Round 5: Corrin - Corrin represents Areadbhar (a spear) & Chrom is an ally. Round 6: Three Byleth's - This fight's pretty much the same as the official version, but Corrin is an ally. Final Round: All Fire Emblem Fighters Vs. Master Hand & Crazy Hand.
I’d personally have their route reference the multiple routes of Three Houses rather than follow their character theme of teacher or mercenary or the weapons they use just to follow the theme that the DLC have. Plus the many routes of the game was definitely the biggest selling point of three houses that should be made note of. For the 7 round I’d go- Round 1: Giant Simon with Ike as an ally. This references the tutorial map of the game and Ike alludes to Jeralt, the father of the player character as both are mercenaries. Round 2: A hoard battle of 6 dark pits before ending on a Meta Knight with the Dark Meta Knight skin. This references chapter 5 of 3 Houses where you need to fight a bunch of bandits(mostly archers) led by a characters scarred on his face. You’ll be partnered with a Dimitri skinned Byleth as the main boss is the brother of one of the blue lions and suggest you’re playing the Blue Lion route. Round 3: 2 Byleths with the Edelgard and Dimitri colors, a Robin, and a ganondorf with Claude skin Byleth as an ally. This references the mock battle/battle of the eagle and lion. This will be a team battle with each group trying to win over each other. This one assumes the golden deer route as well with Claude as your partner Round 4: A Lucina who upon defeat will lead into a giant Robin with Edelgard Byleth as an ally. This references chapter 10 where you fight the murders of an important character. Your pairing with Edelgard skin Byleth also references that you’re playing Black Eagles Then the final 3 rounds will reference the 3 boss maps of each respected class. Round 5: Beast King Ganon with Dimitri skin Byleth as an ally. This refers to the final boss the Blue Lions take on in Hegemon Edelgard who has transformed into a giant beast. Round 6: hoard battle of a bunch of fire emblem characters with Giant Marth as the last one with Claude skin Byleth as your ally. This references the final map for the golden deer as the Marth would allude to its final boss nemesis, a bandit turned corrupt and killed the goddess. Robin would also work but I really don’t wanna repeat final characters. The final round would be first against Palutena and then shift into a fight again Rathelos with Edelgard skin Byleth as an ally. This references the black eagles final boss in the form of the immaculate one who is Rhea’s alternate form and resembles Palutena if you compare.
I'd say the name of the route could be "Let the Lesson begin!" Since that's one of their taunts, but otherwise, yeah I think that's a great way to do the route.
@@firewolf950tfwgaming7 I really like the idea, the only change I would make is replacing Beast Ganon with giant metal Dark Pit so we don't have two bosses in the same route and also the black wings + dark arrows could represent the Hegemon Husk own wings and ranged attacks.
i will not lie, that Puppet jumpscare at 4:50 really got me, as i was just sitting back and relaxing when he came up and i never sat up so quickly in my life.
It's always nice to hear people like you talking about how fun the offline side of smash can be. As someone who's mostly into this side of smash, it's really cool
Now, Sora also uses the Hands as bosses, but I have a simple fix: just make the boss be a basic Smash battle against Sephiroth, which would make perfect sense as Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 both have secret boss fights against the One-Winged Angel himself. In addition, since said boss fights are infamous for being insanely difficult, maybe Sephiroth could be giant and/or metal to reflect the difficulty of his fights.
Or maybe they could have it so the Master Hand/Crazy Hand fight could be if you reach them as Sora with an intensity less than 7.0. Any higher then that and THEN the boss fight would be the Sephiroth fight you suggested referencing his SECRET boss fights in the first two Kingdom Hearts games and their infamous legacy for their brutal difficulty.
I like how at 15:47 the baby Ike skin actually gets gimped in 3 seconds by your Wario but right after Chad Ike is the one comboing you, asserting his superiority
Oh by the way, for ROB's route, since you included DLC for other characters, maybe add in Steve and Alex at some point, since they're completely emotionless outside of the occasional blink
@@TheSultan1470 well I suppose they're all emotionless but Zombie especially. Just Zombie would feel weird though, so just having a Minecraft round with all 4 alts seems like the best option
Agreed, although instead of the usual grassy and rocky field, Steve’s fight against Rathalos could take place on Marx’s stage, referencing the Ender Dragon’s home, the End.
17:10 Master Hand coming before the Champion makes a lot of sense since most Pokémon games have you save the world before going to the Pokémon League. I wonder if Marx or Rathalos would fit better as world-threatening Pokémon, though.
Rathalos works better since he's also from a monster fighting game. Also, then during the final fight you could get his assist trophy like you caught him
I can’t wait for Master Hand’s Classic Mode. It would go Crazy Hand, Crazy Hand spawning Master Hand upon death, Master Hand, Master Hand summoning Crazy Hand upon death, and Galeem and Dharkon. Unoriginal, but still more original than a majority of the actual Classic Mode routes.
Everyone for some reason thinks Ganondorf wanted to overthrow Master Hand in Subspace. HE DIDN'T. He was loyal, he just wanted to make sure Bowser wouldn't betray him so he killed him, but he was loyal to Master Hand and even tried protecting him.
Late response, but Ganondorf wanting to overthrow Master Hand actually *is* canon; there’s a post on the Brawl website that explains some of the Subspace lore.
That's actually totally not Ganondorf-Like. He wouldnt bow down to anyone and swearing his loyality to anyone, as the pure evil incarnate he would instead take everything under control in order for Darkness to prosper, heck he doesnt even care if he is going to die, as long as his goal gets fulfilled he'll be satisfied
For Little Mac, personally i would give him a classic mode that references the other boxers in the punch out series like Glass Joe, Piston Hondo, King Hippo, Aran Ryan, Super Macho Man, and Mr. Sandman.
Glass Joe is Larry, Piston Hondo is Pikachu with the headband, King Hippo is white King K Rool, Aran Ryan is Fox, Super Macho Man is gold Captain Falcon, and Mr. Sandman is Ganondorf
I think the reason why no Classic Mode Routes will ever be changed is so that people's old high scores don't suddenly become irrelevant, deleted or no longer obtainable. I do like most of these ideas. The overuse of Master Hand and/or Crazy Hand bothers me too.
The sidekick route would go in my mind, Luigi and Daisy, Diddy Kong, Zelda or Shiek, a hoarde battle against 6 Yoshis (the ones that are not green) Meta Knight, Bowser Jr., and then for the finale, the same crazy hand fight as he’s a sidekick to master hand.
29:20 For Byleth’s Section you can have them fight against characters that use multiple weapons: Round 1 would be Link Round 2 would be Inkling Round 3 would be Mega Man Round 4 would be Pit Round 5 would be Steve Round 6 would be Bayonetta And maybe replace the hands with Ganon but that’s kinda of a stretch
It would of been cool if Sonic, the Knuckles Mii, and the Tails Mii were in doctor Mario's route since the trios colors matches the viruses' colors and it can work as a reference to the rivalry Mario and Sonic had in the 90's. Replace Tails Mii with fox and knuckles mii with incineroar if the player doesn't have either, or costume.
@@bonedude666 Fox because they are foxes and incineroar because like knuckles, a lot of incineroar's moves are more physical and knuckles has many moves throughout the series where they have flames coming out of them.
@@Finishedchannel454 I have a better idea for the Sonic Route. Fox is fine except use Emerald hill theme. I agree with using Big and Froggy. Next is Caption Falcon except use the song Escape from the City, this is a reference to the GUN truck from SA2. Next is metal Sonic except use a space stage and the song is Live and Learn, this is a reference to Metal Sonic been playable in SA2's multiplayer mode. Next is Ridley to reference the demons from 06. Next is Shiek except use Skyloft with Angel island theme, this is a reference to Shade the Echidna from Sonic Chronicles the Dark Brotherhood. Finally Ike and Zelda, this a reference to Merlina from Sonic and the Black Knight.
Yeah Cloud technically does still fit considering later on he was experimented on to be a great SOLDIER fighter, but yeah Sephiroth honestly fits MUCH better due to him literally being created from JENOVA (aka alien as far as I know) DNA
Rayquaza SHOULD have returned as a boss as should’ve Duon. In addition to them we should’ve gotten Dr Eggman, Metal Face, Andross, Phantoon, Medusa, and Black Shadow.
Idea for Peach: to replace her Bowser fight so she can fought him and Giga Bowser in the finale, she should have got Mario to replace him. Not only this provides a nice irony as her hero turns out to be a former kidnapper, it would also reference Donkey Kong Jr. where Mario is the main antagonist and kidnapped Donkey Kong.
No you can’t cut out Bayonetta from Luigi’s route. She represents his fear of dominant women. The 4Chan pages he lurks in had warned him of what 3rd wave feminism would lead to.
@@Zekken_The_Lodestar Because as everyone on the internet knows, sarcasm works well in text. ...wait it doesn't. It can be read as serious or sarcasm depending on the person. Use your words.
This is the first time in a long time a FNAF jumpscare has gotten me. I almost threw my phone. I'm sitting on my toilet on a towel after a shower. The window is open and it's pitch black outside. I had my volume up quite a bit because you were talking quietly. And then you play a really loud, unexpected jumpscare after I turn it up even higher because of the pause. In other words, you got me. Really good.
I think Byleth’s classic mode should be a bunch of emotionless, blank slate characters, Byleth is one, but actually has a lore reason. I would make it Hero, Mr. Game and Watch, Rob, Pokemon Trainer, Villager, and Robin + Corrin. The boss would be Master Hand. If you wanted to keep the Weapons theme you came up with, I would make the final fight Little Mac, Byleth punches with their jab, using the Brawling weapons class from 3 Houses, and the boss could be Ganon, who uses swords.
Isn't that just R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer's routes? R.O.B.'s route's characters don't show emotion due to not having emotable faces, and wii fit's are supposed to be emotionless.
17:19 while in theory this would make sense, do keep in mind that in all the Kanto games, mewtwo is completly unavailable until after you become the champion. dunno why hand is here though
Isn't that green snake thing a boss? They could've used that for some of the Pokemon. And for the fighter with the "vehicle" theme, Ridley's final fight on Samus' ship would have been epic.
@@amazingfireboy1848 Rayquaza (the green snake thing) was a boss in Super Smash Bros Brawl, but it is unfortunately not a boss in Smash Ultimate, instead it only appears as a stage hazard on Kalos Pokemon League.
Note: Zero Suit Samus’s mode in Japanese is “Master the Wire”. The idea being that for most of the characters, the “wire” in question is a tether grab. But for Little Mac, they went for the wire frame costume as a pun.
The idea for Pokémon trainer having the boss on stage 5 also fits most Pokémon games. Prior to Black and White, you’d always defeat the main story’s final enemy before proceeding to the Pokémon league.
I think that the Mii’s routes should’ve been customizable. You could change the fights to be against whoever you choose and even change the rules of it as well. And, maybe you could even change the boss too. That’d be cool.
For Byleth, I’d say they could do fights based on the 4 final boss fights of Three Houses MAJOR 3H SPOLIERS: Could have a fight against giant Ridley with lava everywhere to represent the fire in the Fhirdiad fight against Rhea in Crimson Flower. Could also have a Byleth ally with the Edelgard alt. For Silver Snow it’d be the same thing except no fire and no Edelgard ally. For Azure Moon, it could be a giant Edelgard alt against you and an ally with the Dimitri alt. Verdant Wind would be the hardest one to pull off, best thing that I could think of is fighting another Byleth with a Claude alt ally, due to Byleth and Nemesis having the same sword.
I had the same idea but I would change some things. The cf rhea should be a white charizard or against palutena while the ss rhea should be against Ridley since she got the insane dragon disease in that route For the azure moon boss it would make sense to change the eldegard byleth to kazuya since his demon form could be a reference to hegemon eldegard For the vw fight it should be byleth against the ten elites and nemesis with nemesis being ganondorf or byleth
For Samus’s ideal new route, instead of the free-for-all with Ivysaur, Min Min, Joker, and Byleth, you can add Ivysaur with Isabelle. It gives Isabelle a companion, but also Ivysaur is a grass type…with leaves… And Isabelle was in… New Leaf?
8:15 is the best moment in a video of all time. Incorporating a meme into the video and since mask is OBVIOUSLY the best song in the planet, it makes this the best video of all time
For the miis, I'd feel like if they did give them a classic mode, they'd be doing something BIG tailored for them, probably something Miitopia related, like a new classic mode boss, or a new mii fighter class.
Fox’s classic mode fight with the hands could be an unintentional reference to Andross, seeing how he’s a space fairing, floating arms and head boss. For the inclusion of the wire frame Little Macs, I believe it is a reference to a training sequence from Other M (however any removal of references to that piece of utter garbage is more than welcome).
i feel like all or at least some of the fire emblem characters (especially marth) could've fought rathalos at the end cuz of the whole fire emblem thing or something
I think the reason Fox fights a hand is intended as a reference to Andross, who traditionally appears as a giant disembodied head and pair of hands. Why he'd default to only _one_ hand in that case is a mystery. Making the final battle take place on an omega version of a Star Fox stage with occasional appearances of the Assist Trophy version of Andross aiding Master Hand would be a lot more fitting.
*My idea for a redesign for Olimar's Classic Mode:* Since the space theme is way too overused, my idea is to change it to a nature-themed aesthetic, as nature plays a major role to the Pikmin franchise. This means the name would be changed from "Planetary Explorer" to "Space-Bound Botanist" In this mode, you'd fight against characters that are related to, or have a big connection towards nature, but mostly towards plants. The fights would go like this= *1. Villager and Isabelle on Tortimer Island.* Because in Animal Crossing, activities like catching bugs and gardening are just way too nature-themed. *Music: Tortimer Island Medley.* *2. A Red, Yellow and Blue alt Kirbys on Ω form Green Greens.* Green Greens is forest-themed, and the 3 kirbys are representative of the Red, Yellow and Blue Pikmin from Pikmin 1. All this also creates a parallelism with Pikmin 1's first proper area, The Forest of Hope. *Music: Forest Stage.* *3. Piranha Plant x8 in Golden Plains.* Piranha Plants are... well, plants... Bottom Text. *Music: Athletic Theme - New Super Mario Bros. 2* *4. Red-alt, giant Ivysaur on Pokémon Stadium.* Ivysaur is a Grass-type pokemon so it fits well with Olimar's new nature-themed classic mode. Ivysaur is giant and with a red alt because it is somewhat akin to a Bulborb. Also Pokemon Stadium can switch into Grass version. *Music: Battle! (Wild Pokémon) - Pokémon Ruby / Pokémon Sapphire.* *5. Red-alt Palutena on Reset Bomb Forest.* Red-alt Palutena, combined with the stage, are a reference to the character Viridi, the Goddess of Nature from the Kid Icarus series. *Music: Wrath of the Reset Bomb.* *6. Alph on Garden of Hope (if playing as Olimar) // Olimar on Distant Planet (if playing as Alph)* A tweaked version of the og classic mode. *Musics: Garden of Hope [Remix] // Stage Select - Pikmin 2.* -Minigame- *Final. Rathalos.* Rathalos is chosen because i'm tired of Master Hand; and also because Rathalos is like most Pikmin enemies and bosses, in the fact that they are not really "monsters" or "evil" and they're just predatorial animals that do what they need to do for survival. *Music: Roar/Rathalos.* Hope this gets acknowledged, even tho this video is 3 years old. I just think this turned out fine! 🌱
I think the Wario fight in Dr. Mario’s route taking place in Luigi’s Mansion is a reference to his manor from Mario & Wario, that also made appearance in Dr. Mario World, and Wario was very present in Dr. Mario 64
After Melee, I find Super Smash Bros. Ultimate to have my second favorite iteration of Classic Mode. I play it regularly whenever I run through this game. I really don't dislike fighting Master Hand with the current number of characters, but I see that like Aaronitmar, you took your time to craft some amusing ideas. Respect. This is a nice video, Odyssey.
I think it would be PERFECT for Rathalos to be Byleth’s boss. The reason being is that in 3 houses you have to fight different beasts labeled monsters and there are a lot of dragon like monsters. Plus you use your whole party to fight them so the teamates aspect works perfectly.
Ok I know this is late but hear me out: here’s what I’d personally do for Kirby: The theme is super star since smash likes it so much. Each round represents one of the sub games. Starting with dedede in boxing ring representing spring breeze (his theme will obviously be playing) Next round is gourmet race but since l already used dedede before it, the battle references his old classic mode route by having Kirby fight 2 other big eaters that may compete in a gourmet race (Yoshi and wario respectively). Only food items will spawn and you'll start out the battle a little damaged like in the old classic mode. Stage is dreamland 64 with gourmet race 64 as the song. Next you fight a giant red falco to reference dybablade, with falco being the dynablade stand in. The fight is on gerudo valley with the Kirby boss medley playing After that is the great cave in a free for all where you fought opponents that represent each of the great cave bosses (blue K Rool for fatty whale, rob for CV, green greninja for chamelleo arm and dk for wham bam). Don't worry, the fight is on battle field great cave with obviously the great cave song playing Next is revenge of meta knight. I don't think I need to explain what the battle is here. Only other thing of note is that sword items will spawn Lastly, the round before the boss references the arena. More specifically you fight a hoard(?) of fighters in order, each spawning in once you defeat the previous one like in Terry's classic mode. The fighters are stand ins for the midbosses from super star (or atleast only the ones who have a spirit battle). The order being blue Yink for poppy bros Sr-> iceys for Mr.Frosty-> Pac-Man for chef Kawasaki-> Ridley for Bugzzy→> and Purple DK for bonkers. You will be paired up with a blue ryu as a knuckle Joe stand in referencing the helpers you can spawn in. The battle is on the colosseum stage since it looks like the stage you fight the midbosses in the arena and the song is a battle of friends and bonds And with this new theme I think Marx fits even better as the boss as he’s the final boss of Milky Way wishes, the last main sub game and of super star as a whole
Good vid, the only to three I would change is Lucina, Shulk, and Cloud Strife. I feel like Lucina should have a new theme reveling time travel since it's a big part of her story in FE (she want back in time to save her time from the bad guy). I can't think of a full root, but I do feel like Young Link and Sonic could be part of it. Next is Shulk, who I kind of wish they did not use the Smash original Monado Arts (Jump and Smash), I am feeling like Incineroar for Monado Cyclone and King K Rule for Monado Armour. Lastly, I want Cloud's rout to end with a fight with Sephiroth on northern cave! I know it dons not fit with theme, but come on (you can see the party's ship in the background I guess).
Hey man, I just wanted to say... I just found your channel and now I’m contemplating why you don’t have like at least a million subscribers? Like, this video was so much fun to watch! It was very interesting how you broke down the routes and explained all these different things in the routes and how there’s a few jokes thrown in, I just think this video is amazing. New subscriber.
One small change about the Sonic classic mode, I think having metal sonic be the final fight before the gallium boss would be a cool reference to Sonic 2’s Death egg zone, where you fight metal sonic & the death egg robot back to back.
Since Pokemon Trainer is currently the only representation of human characters from Pokemon, I'd theme their Classic Mode on human characters paired with nonhuman characters to represent the Trainer/Pokemon relationship in the games. Here are some examples: -Little Mac & Donkey Kong (reference to DK cameo in Punchout!! Wii) -Snake & R.O.B. (R.O.B. stands in as a Metal Gear) -Sheik & Greninja (ninja Pokemon for a ninja person) -Roy & Charizard (dragons typically play a big role in Fire Emblem; Elibe series dragons also tend to be fire-themed) -Ice Climbers & Duck Hunt (reference to double battles in Pokemon) -Corrin/Robin & Ridley (Ridley could go with Corrin being a manakete, or with Robin in relation to Grima) -Cloud & Incineroar (Incineroar stands in for Red XIII from FF7) -Young Link & Pichu (baby Link meets baby Pikachu) -Ike & Wolf/Incineroar/Falco/Duck Hunt/Charizard... (Ike has a lot of choices given the variety of laguz in the Tellius games) -Olimar & Ivysaur (to go with how the Pikmin are plant-based; Ivysaur could be seen as a Bulbmin if you squint hard enough) -Lucas & Duck Hunt (Duck Hunt could stand in as Lucas' family dog Boney) -Kazuya & Incineroar (Incineroar would be a funny stand-in for King from Tekken) -Mario & Yoshi (classic team-up from the Mario series) -Peach & Jigglypuff (pink and cutesy motif plus Jigglypuff's Sing going with Peach's Final Smash that puts people to sleep) -Villager & Isabelle (funny Animal Crossing go brrr) -Ryu & Lucario (both being stoic fighters) -Terry & Diddy Kong (did you know Terry had a pet monkey?) -Piranha Plant & Luigi in his Waluigi alt (references one of Waluigi's first renders being him holding a potted Piranha Plant) For the final boss, I'd cut Master Hand and either have it just be Mewtwo to reference how legendary Pokemon don't have their own trainers until you catch them yourself, or Dr. Mario followed by Mewtwo to reference Mewtwo being born in a lab.
"Lucina's classic route is titled 'A path of heroes' where she fights all 1 trillion fire emblem characters" I almost spit out my water Edit: "Mega fit trainer and wii man"
What if after you beat Classic Mode, then some routes change? Imagine if you verse the usual boss and then suddenly you verse another! This time from World of Light. I may have too many fighters getting this treatment but I highly doubt people will read this anyways so doesn't really matter. Peach, Doctor Mario, Pichu, Mewtwo, Snake, Lucas, Sonic (The speed route), R.O.B., Villager, Little Mac, Palutena, Bayonetta and Inkling would suddenly battle Galeem after their routes Link, Fox, Luigi, Falco, Ike, Olimar, Ken, Richter, Joker, Greninja, Sora and Sepheroth would battle Dharkon instead Ice Climbers, Chrom, Meta Knight, Corrin, Piranha Plant, Banjo & Kazooie and Pyra & Mythra would fight both simultaneously Sepheroth would also battle Galeem but as the first battle. This would be a reference to his trailer. For Pit's classic mode, Dark Pit is moved to the back if Classic Mode has been beaten and said battle takes place on final destination. Dharkon is faced immediately after and then you finally verse the usual boss Similarly for Samus's classic mode, Dark Samus takes place on final destination. Dharkon is faced immediately after and then you finally verse the usual boss
I mean add more cutscens and boom there is something to look forward to, like for brawl the story mode was a bit short but it was sick, and also it drags on for way WAY too long
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. From how I'm reading it, you're essentially saying that Subspace was too short and dragged on for way too long. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@monkeyjosh339 could have had fewer required fights, and some platforming segments and cutscenes. considering the "times completed" counter, it seems to be made with replayability in mind, but the combination of length and monotony ruins that
Well, Byleth original classic route does work. Its not just base on all fe rep join smash in order. But it was also base on the order of each of their game release. Marth is Shadow Dragon, Roy is Binding Blade, Both Ike variant from POR and RD, the Awakening rep from.... Awakening, both Corrin (white male and dark female skin) from Fate Birthrights and Conquest, and finally 3 Byleths with three houses leader skin from Three Houses. And Master and Crazy hands with all fe rep (not included echo) as your allies for fun.
Nice video as always! I really think a lot of these changes are obvious and should be changed, yet there are some which I would’ve never thought of that fit perfectly, you clearly put a bunch of effort into this And also as the resident FF expert I agree with the Sephiroth change, as *spoiler alert* Cloud is made to believe he was created, but he really wasn’t, and Sephiroth was pretty much genetically modified in the womb to become overpowered, so it fits slightly better.
I'd take Pikachu out of that opening fight and have him be the boss instead of Marx. I mean, it's your evolved form. He's the perfect boss for Pichu. Slap a bunch of power-ups on him and you're golden.
I think that both Lucina and Robin's final boss fight could be changed to be against Rathalos, to represent the Fell Dragon/Grima, and possibly in Robin's fight, they could have Chrom as a teammate (I would say Lucina could be there too, but I think having two teammates is a little much).
Don’t let this video fool you all by the way, Marx is the worst boss for speedrunning and I am slightly happy he isn’t used more :D
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For the Isabelle changes: U cant add 7 players in a classic mode bc u could do co-op mode and then u would have to remove on
For Byleth a theme I'd like is "Guiding the Youngsters" a focus on them being a teacher
Start with Ness and Lucas, then Young Link, then Inkling (in school uniform), then Pit (since he can't read), Joker (also a school uniform), and end with Robin since they're a strategist like Byleth and it's like they're trying to determine the superior scholar. And I can't think of anything else for the boss
Beast King Ganon could represent Hegemone Husk
For Byleth, I have an idea to fix his/her route & make it less like Lucina's. Sort of combining Odyssey Central's idea with what we actually got.
Round 1: Marth - Representing the Sword Of The Creator.
Round 2: Roy & Zero Suit Samus - Zero Suit Samus represents the whip abilities of the sword & Marth is an ally.
Round 3: Ike, Link, Young Link, & Toon Link - The three Links represent Failnaught (a bow) & Roy is an ally.
Round 4: Lucina, Robin, Chrom, & King Dedede - King Dedede represents Aymr (an axe even though Dedede uses a hammer) & Ike is an ally.
Round 5: Corrin - Corrin represents Areadbhar (a spear) & Chrom is an ally.
Round 6: Three Byleth's - This fight's pretty much the same as the official version, but Corrin is an ally.
Final Round: All Fire Emblem Fighters Vs. Master Hand & Crazy Hand.
I’d personally have their route reference the multiple routes of Three Houses rather than follow their character theme of teacher or mercenary or the weapons they use just to follow the theme that the DLC have. Plus the many routes of the game was definitely the biggest selling point of three houses that should be made note of. For the 7 round I’d go-
Round 1: Giant Simon with Ike as an ally. This references the tutorial map of the game and Ike alludes to Jeralt, the father of the player character as both are mercenaries.
Round 2: A hoard battle of 6 dark pits before ending on a Meta Knight with the Dark Meta Knight skin. This references chapter 5 of 3 Houses where you need to fight a bunch of bandits(mostly archers) led by a characters scarred on his face. You’ll be partnered with a Dimitri skinned Byleth as the main boss is the brother of one of the blue lions and suggest you’re playing the Blue Lion route.
Round 3: 2 Byleths with the Edelgard and Dimitri colors, a Robin, and a ganondorf with Claude skin Byleth as an ally. This references the mock battle/battle of the eagle and lion. This will be a team battle with each group trying to win over each other. This one assumes the golden deer route as well with Claude as your partner
Round 4: A Lucina who upon defeat will lead into a giant Robin with Edelgard Byleth as an ally. This references chapter 10 where you fight the murders of an important character. Your pairing with Edelgard skin Byleth also references that you’re playing Black Eagles
Then the final 3 rounds will reference the 3 boss maps of each respected class.
Round 5: Beast King Ganon with Dimitri skin Byleth as an ally. This refers to the final boss the Blue Lions take on in Hegemon Edelgard who has transformed into a giant beast.
Round 6: hoard battle of a bunch of fire emblem characters with Giant Marth as the last one with Claude skin Byleth as your ally. This references the final map for the golden deer as the Marth would allude to its final boss nemesis, a bandit turned corrupt and killed the goddess. Robin would also work but I really don’t wanna repeat final characters.
The final round would be first against Palutena and then shift into a fight again Rathelos with Edelgard skin Byleth as an ally. This references the black eagles final boss in the form of the immaculate one who is Rhea’s alternate form and resembles Palutena if you compare.
I'd say the name of the route could be "Let the Lesson begin!" Since that's one of their taunts, but otherwise, yeah I think that's a great way to do the route.
@@firewolf950tfwgaming7 I really like the idea, the only change I would make is replacing Beast Ganon with giant metal Dark Pit so we don't have two bosses in the same route and also the black wings + dark arrows could represent the Hegemon Husk own wings and ranged attacks.
i will not lie, that Puppet jumpscare at 4:50 really got me, as i was just sitting back and relaxing when he came up and i never sat up so quickly in my life.
Don't do that again
whats going on at 2:38 with rosilina
Same
I don't know why but my entire back bent up and I did the weirdest recoil in my life
So funny haha
It's always nice to hear people like you talking about how fun the offline side of smash can be. As someone who's mostly into this side of smash, it's really cool
I agree completely.
-just never do what I did and train a Hero amiibo and fight it yourself, and now I’ll make a Kazuya one when it comes out-
Yeah I love the story and classic modes
Yeah, same. I’m trash at online play, so it’s just rather comforting to play by myself.
@@SamuelTheAdept okay, but don’t fight that one, period.
Yeah, Smash is a weird case of an online game having more single player content than online.
I was not ready for that intro to Luigi’s section
Me even less
I was half asleep ;o;
Same...
I was so scared it was like 4 am
@@swappy_star7781 to me it was 3 am
Now, Sora also uses the Hands as bosses, but I have a simple fix: just make the boss be a basic Smash battle against Sephiroth, which would make perfect sense as Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2 both have secret boss fights against the One-Winged Angel himself. In addition, since said boss fights are infamous for being insanely difficult, maybe Sephiroth could be giant and/or metal to reflect the difficulty of his fights.
Or maybe they could have it so the Master Hand/Crazy Hand fight could be if you reach them as Sora with an intensity less than 7.0. Any higher then that and THEN the boss fight would be the Sephiroth fight you suggested referencing his SECRET boss fights in the first two Kingdom Hearts games and their infamous legacy for their brutal difficulty.
I like how at 15:47 the baby Ike skin actually gets gimped in 3 seconds by your Wario but right after Chad Ike is the one comboing you, asserting his superiority
Oh by the way, for ROB's route, since you included DLC for other characters, maybe add in Steve and Alex at some point, since they're completely emotionless outside of the occasional blink
@@bobert221 *cinematic trailers and mini videos would like to talk with you*
@@gamerits yeah. just in THOSE do they show emotion. in game. they show less emotion than a fucking statue.
@@bobert221 How about the zombie?
@@TheSultan1470 well I suppose they're all emotionless but Zombie especially. Just Zombie would feel weird though, so just having a Minecraft round with all 4 alts seems like the best option
22:09 damn that caught me off guard almost spit out my cereal
Wii man
Mega fit trainer
Wii man
Mega fit trainer
Mega Fit Trainer and Wii Man
Wii man
Mega fit trainer
I thought you were talking about the jumpscare
I think Steve should fight rathilos. You know, he is fighting a dragon as in the Ender dragon
Agreed, although instead of the usual grassy and rocky field, Steve’s fight against Rathalos could take place on Marx’s stage, referencing the Ender Dragon’s home, the End.
And defeat static tall characters before rathalos referencing the end pillars
Yes
Yes
Rathalos*
17:10 Master Hand coming before the Champion makes a lot of sense since most Pokémon games have you save the world before going to the Pokémon League. I wonder if Marx or Rathalos would fit better as world-threatening Pokémon, though.
Rathalos works better since he's also from a monster fighting game. Also, then during the final fight you could get his assist trophy like you caught him
Wasn't there a Raquaza fight? maybe I mistake it from Brawl, where I definitely remember that fight. They could have brought Rayquaza for that reason.
@@zacharytaylor2676 sadly Rayquaza is only in brawl
I can’t wait for Master Hand’s Classic Mode. It would go Crazy Hand, Crazy Hand spawning Master Hand upon death, Master Hand, Master Hand summoning Crazy Hand upon death, and Galeem and Dharkon. Unoriginal, but still more original than a majority of the actual Classic Mode routes.
GENIUUUUUSSSS!!!
I was told that Master Hand could be unlocked as a fighter in Brawl, but sadly I never had a chance to figure out how
@@an-animal-loverhe's not. But there's actually a glitch to play as him in Melee
22:09 Um yes, my two favorite characters, Mega Fit Trainer and Wii Man
(Insert Mario laughing histericrly)
23:56 and don't forget about the goddess of light, Fair and Balanced
Same
Same
Wii Man is just the Reckless Motion Safety Man that appears before the title screen of every Wii game.
Everyone for some reason thinks Ganondorf wanted to overthrow Master Hand in Subspace. HE DIDN'T. He was loyal, he just wanted to make sure Bowser wouldn't betray him so he killed him, but he was loyal to Master Hand and even tried protecting him.
Huh, never expected Ganondorf to be loyal to someone.
well, there is that subtle smirk he does when taking orders from master hand
Yeah, the whole time I was just thinking "Didn't he literally die trying to save Master Hand from Tabuu"
Late response, but Ganondorf wanting to overthrow Master Hand actually *is* canon; there’s a post on the Brawl website that explains some of the Subspace lore.
That's actually totally not Ganondorf-Like.
He wouldnt bow down to anyone and swearing his loyality to anyone, as the pure evil incarnate he would instead take everything under control in order for Darkness to prosper, heck he doesnt even care if he is going to die, as long as his goal gets fulfilled he'll be satisfied
Roy’s final boss being the hands makes perfect sense.
After all, Master Hand and Crazy Hand are the final boss of the first game Roy was in.
For Little Mac, personally i would give him a classic mode that references the other boxers in the punch out series like Glass Joe, Piston Hondo, King Hippo, Aran Ryan, Super Macho Man, and Mr. Sandman.
for aran ryan, he pulls out a gun
@@PROPLAYEN Thats not a bad idea tbh
Just give Aran a lazer Gun
Or have him fight characters who use boxing gloves in their attacks (also a reference to Ken/Incineroar's reveal trailer)
Glass Joe is Larry, Piston Hondo is Pikachu with the headband, King Hippo is white King K Rool, Aran Ryan is Fox, Super Macho Man is gold Captain Falcon, and Mr. Sandman is Ganondorf
@@John-fh8vy I would make Mr Sandman a Big Jiggily Puff because yknow Mr Sandman makes alot of Sleep Threats and Jiggly puff has a sleep attack.
I think the reason why no Classic Mode Routes will ever be changed is so that people's old high scores don't suddenly become irrelevant, deleted or no longer obtainable.
I do like most of these ideas. The overuse of Master Hand and/or Crazy Hand bothers me too.
I sure they probably work around it
Every time I hear that the hands are overused I relish in the fact that I am a Yoshi main (i.e. I get A DRAGON)
We split it, old and new
@@Starricane imagine not being a Sephiroth main and fighting literally everything
Wait no.
Falco's classic mode should be up against fighters who can fly!
The dark theme is used like 3 to 4 times already.
That or sidekicks/2nd bananas
The sidekick route would go in my mind, Luigi and Daisy, Diddy Kong, Zelda or Shiek, a hoarde battle against 6 Yoshis (the ones that are not green) Meta Knight, Bowser Jr., and then for the finale, the same crazy hand fight as he’s a sidekick to master hand.
That could work too
Characters with more than two jumps would work well, since jump height is one of Falco’s strongest points
@@perkilatorxiii5179Isn’t that theme for Little Mac already?
The reason little Mac is in ZSS’s fight is because in Japanese, the name is “down to the wire” and he is in his wire frame outfit
I haven’t watched the video yet but I bet he is going to flex his Classic mode world records lol
That’s what I was thinking
30:35 "Mii Brawler's would be characters with strong punches." Proceeds to not include Little Mac
If I were replacing that route, I’d probably remove Wario as his punches aren’t the strongest
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Wii man is now my favorite smash character and you can't change my mind.
mega man 12 leak?
I prefer Mega Fit Trainer
Odyssey: the mask covers their identities
Allister rare league card: are you sure about that
Lmao.
The only change I’d make is to Sepiroth as the final boss for cloud
Yeah
Sephiroth should’ve also been included in Sora’s classic mode.
29:20
For Byleth’s Section you can have them fight against characters that use multiple weapons:
Round 1 would be Link
Round 2 would be Inkling
Round 3 would be Mega Man
Round 4 would be Pit
Round 5 would be Steve
Round 6 would be Bayonetta
And maybe replace the hands with Ganon but that’s kinda of a stretch
replace Hands with Galleom?
It would of been cool if Sonic, the Knuckles Mii, and the Tails Mii were in doctor Mario's route since the trios colors matches the viruses' colors and it can work as a reference to the rivalry Mario and Sonic had in the 90's. Replace Tails Mii with fox and knuckles mii with incineroar if the player doesn't have either, or costume.
What if you don't have the costumes? It's a good idea, but seems to specific for it to actually work.
@@bonedude666 Fox because they are foxes and incineroar because like knuckles, a lot of incineroar's moves are more physical and knuckles has many moves throughout the series where they have flames coming out of them.
@@Finishedchannel454 You should probably specify that in the comment.
@@bonedude666 good point.
@@Finishedchannel454 I have a better idea for the Sonic Route. Fox is fine except use Emerald hill theme.
I agree with using Big and Froggy.
Next is Caption Falcon except use the song Escape from the City, this is a reference to the GUN truck from SA2.
Next is metal Sonic except use a space stage and the song is Live and Learn, this is a reference to Metal Sonic been playable in SA2's multiplayer mode.
Next is Ridley to reference the demons from 06.
Next is Shiek except use Skyloft with Angel island theme, this is a reference to Shade the Echidna from Sonic Chronicles the Dark Brotherhood.
Finally Ike and Zelda, this a reference to Merlina from Sonic and the Black Knight.
8:35 I know that it’s not technically a boss but one that I’ve thought of for Dr. Mario’s boss is a yellow, red, and blue Bowsers fight
Why not have yellow red and blue GIGA bowser?
They totally should have added Corrin or Inkling next to Squirtle to represent the Water Type in Greninja's route.
I wouldn't say inkling as they die to water but they work well as a poison type so they could go with ivysaur because of the dual typing
@@zagondragon9912or olimar to go with grass
I can’t believe you did that 4:48
Odyssey canceled
That scared me 💀
@@Bagimations same
13:57 Oh that’s perfect. See, Sephiroth was born a living weapon, so he makes more sense than Cloud.
Yeah Cloud technically does still fit considering later on he was experimented on to be a great SOLDIER fighter, but yeah Sephiroth honestly fits MUCH better due to him literally being created from JENOVA (aka alien as far as I know) DNA
We really just need more bosses, it would add a lot more variety.
Rayquaza SHOULD have returned as a boss as should’ve Duon. In addition to them we should’ve gotten Dr Eggman, Metal Face, Andross, Phantoon, Medusa, and Black Shadow.
@@RondoOfBloodX porky couldve worked
@@RondoOfBloodX Metal Gear REX or RAY would've worked too.
@@RondoOfBloodX Duon would have worked well in Banjo's classic mode.
Or we could’ve had the giant baby Bowser for Yoshi, The Reaper for Joker, The Enderdragon for Steve, Captain Falcon could have Black Shadow etc.
Idea for Peach: to replace her Bowser fight so she can fought him and Giga Bowser in the finale, she should have got Mario to replace him. Not only this provides a nice irony as her hero turns out to be a former kidnapper, it would also reference Donkey Kong Jr. where Mario is the main antagonist and kidnapped Donkey Kong.
For that Luigi segment
I’ve seen that jumpscare millions of times and it still got me
No you can’t cut out Bayonetta from Luigi’s route. She represents his fear of dominant women. The 4Chan pages he lurks in had warned him of what 3rd wave feminism would lead to.
Wait... It was?
@@Zekken_The_Lodestar No, she summons literal demons n shit
@@lord_berkut2426 I was being sarcastic to the comment above.
@@Zekken_The_Lodestar Because as everyone on the internet knows, sarcasm works well in text.
...wait it doesn't. It can be read as serious or sarcasm depending on the person.
Use your words.
Imagine if they fleshed out Classic mode way more and binned the other modes except for WOL and normal Smash.
Giant inceneraor to represent that one red character that I don't care to look up about
Me: oh, Zavok? Yeah, he's a lost cause. No one cares about him
This is the first time in a long time a FNAF jumpscare has gotten me. I almost threw my phone. I'm sitting on my toilet on a towel after a shower. The window is open and it's pitch black outside. I had my volume up quite a bit because you were talking quietly. And then you play a really loud, unexpected jumpscare after I turn it up even higher because of the pause.
In other words, you got me. Really good.
I think Byleth’s classic mode should be a bunch of emotionless, blank slate characters, Byleth is one, but actually has a lore reason. I would make it Hero, Mr. Game and Watch, Rob, Pokemon Trainer, Villager, and Robin + Corrin. The boss would be Master Hand. If you wanted to keep the Weapons theme you came up with, I would make the final fight Little Mac, Byleth punches with their jab, using the Brawling weapons class from 3 Houses, and the boss could be Ganon, who uses swords.
Robin has an actual character tho.
Isn't that just R.O.B. and Wii Fit Trainer's routes? R.O.B.'s route's characters don't show emotion due to not having emotable faces, and wii fit's are supposed to be emotionless.
@@CuttlefishOnEstrogen Yes your right.
For an avatar, Robin actually has decent amounts of personality
Ahh yes my favourite duo. Mega Fit Trainer and Wii Man 22:09
17:19 while in theory this would make sense, do keep in mind that in all the Kanto games, mewtwo is completly unavailable until after you become the champion. dunno why hand is here though
I would change the name of king dedede’s classic route to “fight for the crown” to reference his guest star tag line from star allies
When he talks about Marx used 3 times rosalina turns into the funny moon guy
*cringe
I’m sorry, but who’s Cringe? I remember that Rosalina exists, but I can’t remember Sakuri adding a character named Cringe.
Me the whole time watching this video, who doesn’t play classic mode:
*I like your funny words, magic man*
8:14 haha I've been laughing at this for so long
Why Are You Laughing Kid
@@BetterNicholas dream
@@BetterNicholas why are u judging him
KID
@@TheUltimateGooner You Do Realize The Original Comment Was Quoting Mask Again So I Commented Quoting More Of Mask A Joke
Imagine if the Mii fighters had there own classic mode, where you can make your own fights and wich boss you will fight
Shouldn't Roy's fight with shulk have Pyra & Mythra they are literally swords.
Isn't that green snake thing a boss? They could've used that for some of the Pokemon. And for the fighter with the "vehicle" theme, Ridley's final fight on Samus' ship would have been epic.
@@amazingfireboy1848 Rayquaza (the green snake thing) was a boss in Super Smash Bros Brawl, but it is unfortunately not a boss in Smash Ultimate, instead it only appears as a stage hazard on Kalos Pokemon League.
@@dreamlanderjoel8162 oh, thanks
pyra and mythra are dlc tho
@@luigidogxd this was an idea for this video and he said that he was design them with the characters we have now.
Note: Zero Suit Samus’s mode in Japanese is “Master the Wire”. The idea being that for most of the characters, the “wire” in question is a tether grab. But for Little Mac, they went for the wire frame costume as a pun.
When I did peach, I was so confused when the boss wasn’t giga bowser
The idea for Pokémon trainer having the boss on stage 5 also fits most Pokémon games. Prior to Black and White, you’d always defeat the main story’s final enemy before proceeding to the Pokémon league.
I think that the Mii’s routes should’ve been customizable. You could change the fights to be against whoever you choose and even change the rules of it as well.
And, maybe you could even change the boss too.
That’d be cool.
Agreed and allow us to share routes online (maybe stage builder being allowed and letting us make race to the finish layouts)
You're right, Sephiroth would be better fit. Cloud still works, but yes, Sephiroth would work better.
For Byleth, I’d say they could do fights based on the 4 final boss fights of Three Houses
MAJOR 3H SPOLIERS:
Could have a fight against giant Ridley with lava everywhere to represent the fire in the Fhirdiad fight against Rhea in Crimson Flower. Could also have a Byleth ally with the Edelgard alt. For Silver Snow it’d be the same thing except no fire and no Edelgard ally.
For Azure Moon, it could be a giant Edelgard alt against you and an ally with the Dimitri alt.
Verdant Wind would be the hardest one to pull off, best thing that I could think of is fighting another Byleth with a Claude alt ally, due to Byleth and Nemesis having the same sword.
I had the same idea but I would change some things. The cf rhea should be a white charizard or against palutena while the ss rhea should be against Ridley since she got the insane dragon disease in that route
For the azure moon boss it would make sense to change the eldegard byleth to kazuya since his demon form could be a reference to hegemon eldegard
For the vw fight it should be byleth against the ten elites and nemesis with nemesis being ganondorf or byleth
@@The-mw3hc Sakurai refuses to use DLC characters in Classic mode other than the DLC character you play as.
For Samus’s ideal new route, instead of the free-for-all with Ivysaur, Min Min, Joker, and Byleth, you can add Ivysaur with Isabelle. It gives Isabelle a companion, but also Ivysaur is a grass type…with leaves… And Isabelle was in… New Leaf?
What they say: Fixing classic mode
What I hear: Death to master and crazy hand
8:15 is the best moment in a video of all time. Incorporating a meme into the video and since mask is OBVIOUSLY the best song in the planet, it makes this the best video of all time
@timmy974 it’s dream. It’s a meme. I’m not a dream Stan. However, that’s what the point of the mask is
For the miis, I'd feel like if they did give them a classic mode, they'd be doing something BIG tailored for them, probably something Miitopia related, like a new classic mode boss, or a new mii fighter class.
Fox’s classic mode fight with the hands could be an unintentional reference to Andross, seeing how he’s a space fairing, floating arms and head boss.
For the inclusion of the wire frame Little Macs, I believe it is a reference to a training sequence from Other M (however any removal of references to that piece of utter garbage is more than welcome).
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MegaFit trainer and wii man 💀
i feel like all or at least some of the fire emblem characters (especially marth) could've fought rathalos at the end cuz of the whole fire emblem thing or something
I think the reason Fox fights a hand is intended as a reference to Andross, who traditionally appears as a giant disembodied head and pair of hands. Why he'd default to only _one_ hand in that case is a mystery. Making the final battle take place on an omega version of a Star Fox stage with occasional appearances of the Assist Trophy version of Andross aiding Master Hand would be a lot more fitting.
Marx should've been the Boss for Palutena's Classic Mode because he's a Jester God and Divine means God
I would call macs new route, disadvantaged victory, since he is the one usually at the disadvantage against his opponents in his game.
The final boss of Awakening is literally a giant dragon. Lucina’s classic mode boss should’ve been Rathalos
Sometimes I wish Eggman was a Boss (I mean, I wish he was a Character, but a Boss would also make alot of sense)
And he would be the final boss for mega- I mean, for *W I I M A N*’s classic mode route
Edit: the fight could be: dr Mario who spawns eggman
*My idea for a redesign for Olimar's Classic Mode:*
Since the space theme is way too overused, my idea is to change it to a nature-themed aesthetic, as nature plays a major role to the Pikmin franchise.
This means the name would be changed from "Planetary Explorer" to "Space-Bound Botanist"
In this mode, you'd fight against characters that are related to, or have a big connection towards nature, but mostly towards plants.
The fights would go like this=
*1. Villager and Isabelle on Tortimer Island.*
Because in Animal Crossing, activities like catching bugs and gardening are just way too nature-themed.
*Music: Tortimer Island Medley.*
*2. A Red, Yellow and Blue alt Kirbys on Ω form Green Greens.*
Green Greens is forest-themed, and the 3 kirbys are representative of the Red, Yellow and Blue Pikmin from Pikmin 1. All this also creates a parallelism with Pikmin 1's first proper area, The Forest of Hope.
*Music: Forest Stage.*
*3. Piranha Plant x8 in Golden Plains.*
Piranha Plants are... well, plants... Bottom Text.
*Music: Athletic Theme - New Super Mario Bros. 2*
*4. Red-alt, giant Ivysaur on Pokémon Stadium.*
Ivysaur is a Grass-type pokemon so it fits well with Olimar's new nature-themed classic mode. Ivysaur is giant and with a red alt because it is somewhat akin to a Bulborb. Also Pokemon Stadium can switch into Grass version.
*Music: Battle! (Wild Pokémon) - Pokémon Ruby / Pokémon Sapphire.*
*5. Red-alt Palutena on Reset Bomb Forest.*
Red-alt Palutena, combined with the stage, are a reference to the character Viridi, the Goddess of Nature from the Kid Icarus series.
*Music: Wrath of the Reset Bomb.*
*6. Alph on Garden of Hope (if playing as Olimar) // Olimar on Distant Planet (if playing as Alph)*
A tweaked version of the og classic mode.
*Musics: Garden of Hope [Remix] // Stage Select - Pikmin 2.*
-Minigame-
*Final. Rathalos.*
Rathalos is chosen because i'm tired of Master Hand; and also because Rathalos is like most Pikmin enemies and bosses, in the fact that they are not really "monsters" or "evil" and they're just predatorial animals that do what they need to do for survival.
*Music: Roar/Rathalos.*
Hope this gets acknowledged, even tho this video is 3 years old. I just think this turned out fine! 🌱
I think the Wario fight in Dr. Mario’s route taking place in Luigi’s Mansion is a reference to his manor from Mario & Wario, that also made appearance in Dr. Mario World, and Wario was very present in Dr. Mario 64
Dracula should've been the Boss for Ike's Classic Mode and Marx should've been the Boss for Olimar's Classic Mode
I think rob’s route should be referencing 80s toys and 80s games
So Duck Hunt, Game and watch, Mega Man, and Hero
Someone hire this man
@@TheUltimateGooner thanks
@@larrychilders6599 game & watch’s classic mode is good so definitely not have to be changed
@@larrychilders6599 I agree with you with duck hunt and mega man and hero since they are retro
After Melee, I find Super Smash Bros. Ultimate to have my second favorite iteration of Classic Mode. I play it regularly whenever I run through this game.
I really don't dislike fighting Master Hand with the current number of characters, but I see that like Aaronitmar, you took your time to craft some amusing ideas. Respect.
This is a nice video, Odyssey.
I think it would be PERFECT for Rathalos to be Byleth’s boss. The reason being is that in 3 houses you have to fight different beasts labeled monsters and there are a lot of dragon like monsters. Plus you use your whole party to fight them so the teamates aspect works perfectly.
Ok I know this is late but hear me out: here’s what I’d personally do for Kirby: The theme is super star since smash likes it so much. Each round represents one of the sub games.
Starting with dedede in boxing ring representing spring breeze (his theme will obviously be playing)
Next round is gourmet race but since l already used dedede before it, the battle references his old classic mode route by having Kirby fight 2 other big eaters that may compete in a gourmet race (Yoshi and wario respectively). Only food items will spawn and you'll start out the battle a little damaged like in the old classic mode. Stage is dreamland 64 with gourmet race 64 as the song. Next you fight a giant red falco to reference dybablade, with falco being the dynablade stand in. The fight is on gerudo valley with the Kirby boss medley playing
After that is the great cave in a free for all where you fought opponents that represent each of the great cave bosses (blue K Rool for fatty whale, rob for CV, green greninja for chamelleo arm and dk for wham bam). Don't worry, the fight is on battle field great cave with obviously the great cave song playing
Next is revenge of meta knight. I don't think I need to explain what the battle is here. Only other thing of note is that sword items will spawn
Lastly, the round before the boss references the arena. More specifically you fight a hoard(?) of fighters in order, each spawning in once you defeat the previous one like in Terry's classic mode. The fighters are stand ins for the midbosses from super star (or atleast only the ones who have a spirit battle). The order being blue Yink for poppy bros Sr-> iceys for Mr.Frosty-> Pac-Man for chef Kawasaki-> Ridley for Bugzzy→> and Purple DK for bonkers. You will be paired up with a blue ryu as a knuckle Joe stand in referencing the helpers you can spawn in.
The battle is on the colosseum stage since it looks like the stage you fight the midbosses in the arena and the song is a battle of friends and bonds
And with this new theme I think Marx fits even better as the boss as he’s the final boss of Milky Way wishes, the last main sub game and of super star as a whole
I think the Mii's route should be something with custom avatars, like Inkling, Villager and Steve
I died laughing when you said “ mega fit trainer and wii man”
Good vid, the only to three I would change is Lucina, Shulk, and Cloud Strife. I feel like Lucina should have a new theme reveling time travel since it's a big part of her story in FE (she want back in time to save her time from the bad guy). I can't think of a full root, but I do feel like Young Link and Sonic could be part of it. Next is Shulk, who I kind of wish they did not use the Smash original Monado Arts (Jump and Smash), I am feeling like Incineroar for Monado Cyclone and King K Rule for Monado Armour. Lastly, I want Cloud's rout to end with a fight with Sephiroth on northern cave! I know it dons not fit with theme, but come on (you can see the party's ship in the background I guess).
i could actually make this maybe (i cant mod it would just be a sketch)
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"Mega Fit Trainer and Wii Man" 💀
Great vid, but we gonna acknowledge his problem with rosalina?
Funny Dream reference odyssey central! Genuinely hilarious!
I think a video where you make a new boss for each Smash franchise without one would be fun
Eg: Raphael Ravel for Yoshi, Andross for Starfox, etc
Hey man, I just wanted to say... I just found your channel and now I’m contemplating why you don’t have like at least a million subscribers? Like, this video was so much fun to watch! It was very interesting how you broke down the routes and explained all these different things in the routes and how there’s a few jokes thrown in, I just think this video is amazing. New subscriber.
A quick Idea, You can change the Classic Mode you play through to other runs you've cleared, after you clear the run once.
One small change about the Sonic classic mode, I think having metal sonic be the final fight before the gallium boss would be a cool reference to Sonic 2’s Death egg zone, where you fight metal sonic & the death egg robot back to back.
I was literally just watching an old video of yours!
Since Pokemon Trainer is currently the only representation of human characters from Pokemon, I'd theme their Classic Mode on human characters paired with nonhuman characters to represent the Trainer/Pokemon relationship in the games. Here are some examples:
-Little Mac & Donkey Kong (reference to DK cameo in Punchout!! Wii)
-Snake & R.O.B. (R.O.B. stands in as a Metal Gear)
-Sheik & Greninja (ninja Pokemon for a ninja person)
-Roy & Charizard (dragons typically play a big role in Fire Emblem; Elibe series dragons also tend to be fire-themed)
-Ice Climbers & Duck Hunt (reference to double battles in Pokemon)
-Corrin/Robin & Ridley (Ridley could go with Corrin being a manakete, or with Robin in relation to Grima)
-Cloud & Incineroar (Incineroar stands in for Red XIII from FF7)
-Young Link & Pichu (baby Link meets baby Pikachu)
-Ike & Wolf/Incineroar/Falco/Duck Hunt/Charizard... (Ike has a lot of choices given the variety of laguz in the Tellius games)
-Olimar & Ivysaur (to go with how the Pikmin are plant-based; Ivysaur could be seen as a Bulbmin if you squint hard enough)
-Lucas & Duck Hunt (Duck Hunt could stand in as Lucas' family dog Boney)
-Kazuya & Incineroar (Incineroar would be a funny stand-in for King from Tekken)
-Mario & Yoshi (classic team-up from the Mario series)
-Peach & Jigglypuff (pink and cutesy motif plus Jigglypuff's Sing going with Peach's Final Smash that puts people to sleep)
-Villager & Isabelle (funny Animal Crossing go brrr)
-Ryu & Lucario (both being stoic fighters)
-Terry & Diddy Kong (did you know Terry had a pet monkey?)
-Piranha Plant & Luigi in his Waluigi alt (references one of Waluigi's first renders being him holding a potted Piranha Plant)
For the final boss, I'd cut Master Hand and either have it just be Mewtwo to reference how legendary Pokemon don't have their own trainers until you catch them yourself, or Dr. Mario followed by Mewtwo to reference Mewtwo being born in a lab.
"Lucina's classic route is titled 'A path of heroes' where she fights all 1 trillion fire emblem characters"
I almost spit out my water
Edit: "Mega fit trainer and wii man"
What if after you beat Classic Mode, then some routes change? Imagine if you verse the usual boss and then suddenly you verse another! This time from World of Light. I may have too many fighters getting this treatment but I highly doubt people will read this anyways so doesn't really matter.
Peach, Doctor Mario, Pichu, Mewtwo, Snake, Lucas, Sonic (The speed route), R.O.B., Villager, Little Mac, Palutena, Bayonetta and Inkling would suddenly battle Galeem after their routes
Link, Fox, Luigi, Falco, Ike, Olimar, Ken, Richter, Joker, Greninja, Sora and Sepheroth would battle Dharkon instead
Ice Climbers, Chrom, Meta Knight, Corrin, Piranha Plant, Banjo & Kazooie and Pyra & Mythra would fight both simultaneously
Sepheroth would also battle Galeem but as the first battle. This would be a reference to his trailer.
For Pit's classic mode, Dark Pit is moved to the back if Classic Mode has been beaten and said battle takes place on final destination. Dharkon is faced immediately after and then you finally verse the usual boss
Similarly for Samus's classic mode, Dark Samus takes place on final destination. Dharkon is faced immediately after and then you finally verse the usual boss
I mean add more cutscens and boom there is something to look forward to, like for brawl the story mode was a bit short but it was sick, and also it drags on for way WAY too long
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
From how I'm reading it, you're essentially saying that Subspace was too short and dragged on for way too long. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
@@kira_the_sniper6376 I think they mean wol drags on
@@monkeyjosh339 could have had fewer required fights, and some platforming segments and cutscenes. considering the "times completed" counter, it seems to be made with replayability in mind, but the combination of length and monotony ruins that
Well, Byleth original classic route does work. Its not just base on all fe rep join smash in order. But it was also base on the order of each of their game release. Marth is Shadow Dragon, Roy is Binding Blade, Both Ike variant from POR and RD, the Awakening rep from.... Awakening, both Corrin (white male and dark female skin) from Fate Birthrights and Conquest, and finally 3 Byleths with three houses leader skin from Three Houses. And Master and Crazy hands with all fe rep (not included echo) as your allies for fun.
Nintendo missed an opportunity in ROB's "unreadable expressions" to include some form of the killiger meme
Nice video as always! I really think a lot of these changes are obvious and should be changed, yet there are some which I would’ve never thought of that fit perfectly, you clearly put a bunch of effort into this
And also as the resident FF expert I agree with the Sephiroth change, as *spoiler alert* Cloud is made to believe he was created, but he really wasn’t, and Sephiroth was pretty much genetically modified in the womb to become overpowered, so it fits slightly better.
IMO, Lucina's boss should be Rathalos assisted by Robin.
Grima was beaten in Smash4 missionmode and now he comes back even stronger? Nice.
15:01 I Didn’t Know The Context Of Luigi’s Grab But This Video Now Gave Me Context! Thanks!
"mega fit trainer and wii man" -skull-
I'd take Pikachu out of that opening fight and have him be the boss instead of Marx. I mean, it's your evolved form. He's the perfect boss for Pichu. Slap a bunch of power-ups on him and you're golden.
I’d add Lucina to Shiek’s route instead of the Miis. She literally uses a masquerade mask in her home game and down taunt.
I think that both Lucina and Robin's final boss fight could be changed to be against Rathalos, to represent the Fell Dragon/Grima, and possibly in Robin's fight, they could have Chrom as a teammate (I would say Lucina could be there too, but I think having two teammates is a little much).
For Ganon, you could make the final battle against Joker but he always has Arsene
Not having Little Mac on your Mii Brawler route centered around strong punches is a crime
All Fire Emblem characters should fight Rathalos
Well expect marth he fights against rathalos
@@mcecidejesus8477 *except
4:50 Tbh I laughed instead of getting scared when I saw this
Damn you and Aaronitmar had the same idea lol
Bro, That Scared Me So Much🤣4:49