Kimber KDS9c - New 1911 Double Stack
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Hello and welcome. Today we take a first look at the @Kimberamerica KDS9c. I first saw this pistol at the 2023 NRA Convention held in Indianapolis, IN. I anxiously for the release to the public. Finally one came in. Actually two came in. One all black which sold right away and this sample. What are you thoughts on @Kimberamerica entry into the double-stack 1911 world? As always, I look forward to your comments.
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Kimber knocked it out of the park and for 1300$!
Nice tabletop review! Kimber paid alot of attention to the details on this pistol. With 18 rd mags on the way too, I'm optimistic about this offering. 👍👍
I agree 100%… Let’s see how one runs next. 😎🇺🇸👍💥
B9USA Sr.
I agree with your assessment 100%. The Bul Armory is one nice piece that's hard to beat for the price. I've had too many issues with several kimbers in the past and am too skeptical to invest in them ever again. Especially with so many great options being available for greater value. Nicely detailed as always 👌.
Well said. As always, thank you for stopping by.
I really like the way these look.
I’m a Kimber fan starting with the 1911. I fell in Love with the Kimber Pro Raptor ll in 45 acp. Beautiful, Reliable, night sights, scalled serrations, scalloped slide, and I have ALWAYS used Wilson Combat 47D mags in ALL my 1911’s. I carry as my EDC in Winter under a coat in Galco’s leather “Miami Classic” shoulder holster has worked well for me. I just recently purchased another revolver the Kimber K6s 357 Magnum 6-shot snub nosed I carry as my Summer EDC in a Desantis leather paddle holster and it’s the nicest snub nosed revolver I’ve ever purchased. Now I want this Kimber double stacked 9mm and surely be my next purchase. Beautiful build with that double stacked mag grabs my attention. #Kimber❤
Sweet set ups you have. Thank you very much for sharing them with us.
I’ve had mine for about a month now. It’s at about 500 rounds now, and not a malfunction of any kind with several brands and types of ammo. Mounted a holosun EPS carry on it, and it will drive nails all day long. This is my fourth kimber and never a problem with any of them. You are either a kimber person or, you’re not.
Really nice gun but for the price I’d rather buy the Cz Shadow 2 Compact. Great content by the way keep up the great work.
I’m trying to get my hands on a Shadow 2 Compact. No luck so far. Thank you for stopping by.
The CZ’s are awesome!
It’s nice but it’s not a 1911.
For the price I would prefer a Bul Armory. Thought of it before you showed it.
Beautiful pistol
Nice overall table top review but you confuse matters when you say that you prefer the Bul Armory product. They are different, The Kimber is a 15 round double stack with an optics cut. Do you realize how few 1911's are red dot ready. Add $500 to $600 for a machine shop to do an optics cut and refinish the slide and the Bul Armory is now the same price and it's still a single stack holding 9 or 10 rounds. With the soon to be released 18 round Kimber mag it just is no comparison.
I know they are different. I’m aware of that. My point was that between the two guns that I have in front of me which one I would choose. Yes I can compare them because I’m making a choice between the two. Thank you very much for stopping by.
As I have come to expect from your channel, this was another quality tabletop review. I agree that the grip and frame texture leaves a lot to be desired, though I haven't had any grip texture-related issues during the 1,000 trouble-free rounds with my KDS9c. A good comparison is with the Wilson EDC X9 - at twice the price. I'm hoping Kimber will remedy the few issues with the version 2.0.
As always, thank you for watching.
I like all of it except the external extractor. That said, I own 2 S&W 1911’s that are external also and seem to run near 100% to be fair & honest.
Best, B9USA Sr.
I also own two Smith and Wesson E series 1911s with external extractors, and I’ve had zero problems with them. I appreciate you stopping by my friend.
I'm not a Kimber fan but not a hater either - I have a micro 9 with the aluminum frame so I know what the deal is. It's a LOT lighter - which is mostly good for carry. Despite having never shot the KDS9c, because it has a 1911 trigger, high capacity and thinner grip for a double stack - it competes with the Wilson combat and at less than half the price. I think this is my next gun and the gun to beat.
I was able to handle both the blued and the stainless ones. On the stainless one, why on earth doesn't the plate match the color of the frame? It's the biggest eye sore. Come on Kimber! Great video, as always!
I completely agree with you. As always, thank you for stopping by.
It's an interesting piece. I kinda like the color scheme. It has that "50 shades of FDE" look. Some thing you didn't address in the video is what type of mags does it take? To me, that could be a big deal. If it uses common 2011 mags that is a leg up over the Bull. I'm also curious about how it runs. If it runs flawlessly then it would beat out the Springfield which has had a very rough start sadly. I also noticed that the main spring housing is bobbed, that's nice for CCW. I would be interested to know how well it runs! I like that there are more 2011 options coming out in the $1500 price point. That's always a good thing for us consumers!
I will be doing a follow up video regarding the shooting experience. This was simply a first look video.
I appreciate your review and your attention to detail. I really enjoyed the comparisons that you provided with similar offerings in this price range. I would not purchase this pistol, but would choose another Shadow Systems pistol instead. Thank you for providing us with this information.
You are most welcome. Thank you very much for stopping by.
Your 100% right about the bul 1911. I had a chance to buy one for $650 and passed when I bought my px4 ltt. I'm really kicking myself for it now
The PX4 LTT is one of my all-time favorites. Thank you for watching!
I love Your Channel. In Your opinion which one is better: kimber kds9 or prodigy ?
Depends. If I was going to try and conceal carry it - I would choose the Kimber. If it was for home defense and range use -I would choose the Prodigy. It also depends on your body size. The Prodigy (grip) is just too big for me to conceal comfortably. Thank you for your kind words regarding my channel and for taking the time to stop by.
Hopefully its comes with a rail in the future..
Nice review. I agree about color mismatch of this one. From digesting the shooting reviews it looks like a winner. I've been waiting for a Bul SAS II 4.25 but the Kimber is a real available option.
Yeah, I’ve been looking for the Bul as well but so far no luck. Thank you very much for stopping by.
I'd be more interested if it came with an Officer's size frame and a good three dot night-sight setup. If going with a two tone finish, I'd much prefer an anodized midnight blue and polished black, with the same grips.
You do get the single stacks are steel frame and the kds9c is aluminum frame right? So the metals don’t match because it is not the same material? The weight is also very different too
I got mine for $1285
I don’t think you mentioned that the frame is aluminum, which is not a plus for me. I would prefer stainless.
I’m with you. Not quite sure about 1400+ but I wonder what kind of potential these have for mods for competition. Maybe some custom machining.
Need a steel frame version now and I’m on board !!!!
Give me the kimber, the things you don't like about the finish is attractive to others, how does it perform is the question it looks great.
Zero issues.
Looks like a CZ75 magazine, that's cool
The reason it's not direct mount and they use plates is because you can put a RMR plate on it or a RMSc plate which have different screw and lug locations. The slide isn't milled for a specific optic. The only company to solve this issue is Springfield armory with their echelon.
I'm looking forward to comparing this to the shadow 2 compact soon. Only huge knock against this gun I can see is the lack of pic rail. That just doesn't make any sense on a carry gun.
We may have to agree to disagree on the rail. In my experience (38 years in Law Enforcement and more than 40 years as an instructor), there is no reason to have a rail on a concealed carry gun for civilians - police officers and security officers, yes, but not civilians. Use a handheld light to identify your target, but if you use a weapon-mounted light to identify your target, you may be committing a felony. After you have identified your target with a handheld light, you don't need a light on your gun to engage your target. That's just my opinion, but it is shared with many other notable experts.
@@RidersRange haha... ok, so i mean no offense, but while you thought you were establishing yourself as an educational authority you were actually just explaining why you are incorrect.
as a fellow instructor, who has trained with some of the best, most well known instructors in the country who train our highest level of professionals and civilians... you should have a weapon light on your gun. especially a civilian.
expecting a civilian to be able to accurately and effectively manipulate a handheld light while also shooting effectively one handed is absurd. they also, simply, will not do it. they will not carry a gun and a light.
the fact is, you lived and were trained differently than modern standards because you didnt have an option. modern tech and tactics and handling have far surpassed the clumsy handling of the past. you didnt have the availability of an effective compact weapon mounted light so you learned a less effective method by todays standards and as such, are teaching dated information. you probably worked for the first part of your career with a revolver.. guns didnt even have picatinny rail on them for 15-20 years after you started working.
at the bare minimum, you should always have a weapon mounted light AND if you like, carry a handheld light as well. this gives you the option to investigate with a handheld if needed and drop that stupid thing for your weapon mounted light to effectively engage a threat if required. good modern weapon lights add almost zero bulk or weight to your gun. theres no reason not to have one on your gun.
not that you will change, but thats the correct modern way to do things my old friend.
this same complication occurs when old instructors try to justify iron sights on handguns and say they are better than optics. we have far better access to technology today and it is simply objectively better than previous methods.
Paint the cover black or some wild color custom , no or just keep buying 1911s until you find one you like.
Maybe, if they have a black version with ambi safety and quality night sights.
They have a deep blued, almost black version.
Nice
With most LPVO `s YOU DONT NEED a battery at all. So end of the world , as you discussed , Chris`s two batteries WILL eventually die. Then so will Chris. If you have a LPVO you have an etched in BDC or at least the aiming point.Sure you wont have illummination, but you still can shoot with it. I dont even turn mine on half the time. I do prefer an Eotech and a magnifier but the battery is a real thing. Most LVPO will last forever ,a red dot will not.Good vid, peace..
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Can you put those texture grips on this gun?
The side panels are replaceable if you’d like to change them, but the only thing you can do to the front is to put some grip tape.
Can you fit 45acp in this? I live in a state that only allows 10 rounds
No. This is 9 mm.
Do a video about the Remington R1 commander 9 milli
That would be nice, but I don’t have the Remington anymore. Thank you for stopping by.
Bul armory guns have turned into vaporware.
This weighs the same as a glock 19. Pretty nuts.
Almost 5oz heavier than a G19
@@Horvath0819 his is 25.3oz and G19 is 23.99oz kid.
Got one and is trash. A glorified Beretta M9. Returned it in less than 24 hours. Traded a Springfield Ronin EMP that was hands down better in every way except magazine capacity. Shot better, smoother, sights and trigger were better. I was so disappointed and Kimber does not give you an optic plate either. You have to spend an additional $130 for an optic plate!!!! $1400 for a pistol and can’t throw in a plate. I can’t deal with greed. I had a Taurus TH9C and went shot for shot with this Kimber in accuracy and reliability and everything in between. The Taurus was on par with the Kimber, no lie. Taurus locked up 1 time shooting Nosler 147gr JHP, which was the only issue, which it also did in my Gl19 gen 3. Other than that, Taurus outshot the Kimber and I was shooting on a rest. I believe I got a lemon. The accuracy is abt 5-10 MOA at 10yds depending on ammo. I think this one slipped through their Quality checks, but I will never know. I am not spending that much money to find out!!! Kimber had 1 shot and blew it!!! Back to Springfield Armory!!!!!
Yikes!!!
@@MDpoloyes sir. I am so heartbroken over it. I ordered an optic plate and it was a Chinese knock off that didn’t work. That was the last straw.
What is the best way to go about getting a bull armory gun? I'm in the Dallas TX. area do they have any dealers in the states?
The best way to get a Bul Armory pistol is to order one directly from their site and have it transferred to your local FFL. You can find the AXE in Grabagun, but they are cheaper directly from Bul. If you are wanting a 2011 style pistol from them, you will probably have to wait a few weeks to get it.
@sg696 thank you
Interesting review. I'm not a big fan of 1911s (I do have a Classic Colt Government Series 70 45 ACP 1911 that I like). Out of the four pistols you displayed I guess I like the Prodigy the best.
The Prodigy is the best shooter for sure. As always, thank you for stopping by.
@@MDpolo You're welcome. My pleasure.
If its an american company for sure you wont get much out of the box
The colors for me are so inconsistent it's just too much.
I agree!
It looks like a "custom" airsoft
I don't agree.
Ok.
That texture does look cheap