Steve, please review this card. I picked one up this weekend and it has the T104 but it's cooling is remarkable and overclocked it hit a 19318 on passmark. www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/DUAL-RTX2060-O6G-MINI/.
I should clarify...It is in the 4000D Airflow case with a 3900XT and the new H100i Cappelix, B550 Aorus Pro A/C, 64gb 3600mhz RAM, 4 LL Fans - 3 Front, 1 Rear, Top 240 Radiator
It's of course for the exposure to the general audience. While most are performance-oriented, there will be some that are appearance-oriented. They will be the ones that will buy the front closed panel ones because they looked nice.
Well I would imagine that they want to sell products. In this case for example when it is a family of same chassis it is nice to see how much you lose on temps with the filled front option. 10c doesn't sound like the end of the world if you want the looks and aren't running a monster setup anyway for very high heat output. That being said I also sit in the functionality over form camp on computers personally.
because there is a part of the market that doesnt focus so much on airflow and instead wants better acoustics and normally closed panel cases are beetter with them than the ones that are more for airflow.
Owned it for almost a week now from an h500i. Loving it so far and easy to build in. Few minor complaints like no support for front 360 aio support tubes down
Was waiting, then I just decided to go with the airflow version after watching other’s review and looked at some of Steve’s old review of similar design, I was quite confident that the airflow version would pass Steve’s test. I am so glad I was right.
Me: Has an H510 with an ASUS Strix RX5700XT with custom fan curve and maximum stable OC capping out at 70C (55C delta) while eating warm air from a CPU AIO radiator in the front.
Thanks a ton for recommending the Lian Li Lancool 215 at the end. I saw it in the temperature charts and decided to check it out then saw the recommendation at the end but wow for the price, temps are great and comes with 2 front ARGB 200mm fans and 1 back exhaust fan, this is a steal, I gotta watch your review on it right now. Also, thanks for the overall style of your videos, love the way you set them up to go over every last thing in a timely matter and appeal to all people in terms of taste of performance over aesthetics or vice versa or balanced. Thanks, you help me a lot more people so much. Edit: Also youtube slapped your Lian Li Lancool 215 review right in the autoplay, that's convenient, again, thanks for all the case reviews, you do so much and it really helps.
Man, you do some amazing, honest reviews. I actually just purchased the 4000D Airflow (for aesthetics), but was prepared to return it if it didn’t do well enough in your review. Looks like I’ll be keeping it. Thanks again for your fantastic, brutally honest reviews!
@@klausdauer I haven’t actually used it yet lol. Couldn’t get a hold of parts to put inside of it, so my new build has been on hold. I’ve only installed fans and a power supply, but the quality and ease of use is fantastic. I’m sure there are other great cases out there too, but so far I’m satisfied.
I got the 4000D Airflow in white. It’s quite nice. I like the cable management, minimal design, and 3 areas of removable filters. It is also RGB friendly. The front doesn’t look as cool just sitting, but once you have a nice white glow from some fans behind it really looks cool
4000D 4000X PC case is the affordable alternative version of HYTE Y70 is affordable. I bought and DIY installed a perfect fitted touch screen monitor from Amazon to display the CPU GPU temperature datas, The effect exceeded my expectations. With this fancy monitor, I believe i will use for years.
Since i have external watercooling and only need minimal airflow (powerstage, chipset) in the case i still like a non mesh non dust collecting, almost completely closed case. Without any rgb, glass windows or progameredgy showoff design taking up more space. Also reduces coilwhine noise getting out.
@@PsiQ This. I am in the process of building a custom loop with an external radiator (mounted to the side of the case for easier relocation) and I am planning to seal the case as much as I can to block all high frequency noise, cooling the air inside with a 360mm radiator. (There are tons of threads online saying this won't work but noone in those threads has personal experience, while I have read about 2 systems so far that utilise this system and work flawlessly.) I am glad that these reviews resulted in a wide variety of affordable cases that I can recommend to others, but it sure as hell made it difficult to find a case that is as closed off as possible (I would make a custom one, but I suck at fabrication). In the end, I bought a rackmount case from 2004 with almost no holes, which I plan to block with acoustic foam. It looks very outdated, but it is made from thick steel (which is something I wish Steve focused on a bit more, 0.8mm SECC is just not enough with all of the cutouts modern cases have) and it has surprisingly pleasing aesthetics - very industrial looking.
@@phenomanII Cooling the Air inside with the rad (meaning no airflow in/out will make the heat transfer with a rad (even 360) really hard, because you wont have a high enough dT for the rad to really work. The cpu/gpu usually have tenmps around 50 to 60°C, ambient room is about 22 to 26°C leaving the water temps in the middle. If you use air to water to air even if its already really hot inside there is not much dT for physics to work which means really high volume airflow needed.. I guess having a blank metal casewall and blowing the air against that would work better than foam isolating. If there is no hole, sound will transfer only by vibration. I always used the psu fan, which with external cpu/gpu doesnt have much heat to move along. Also 750w platinum for efficiency. Then adding one fan behind the normal cpu cooler with a shroud to blow on the area around the cpu/ram. Having the psu + back fan on the back + low part behind a table stops noise. You could add a sound trap/labyrinth with some overlapping boards.
@@PsiQ I was planning something like that before I heard about the systems using an internal radiator that show that it does indeed work. Making a sound trap would require fabrication which wouldn't be that easy and would make the case a lot bigger and as I said, I want the PC to be easy to relocate. I know that the dT isn't great for the efficiency of the internal rad, but one of the systems I read about was in a custom sealed cabinet and the owner even used an aircooled GPU for a long time with no issues. My system will use waterblocks to cool the CPU and GPU so the internal case temperature will only affect SMD components, the PSU and SSDs - no HDD in the PC (they are noisy after all). I know that the internal case temperature would slowly rise due to these components, but the hotter it gets inside, the more efficient the internal rad gets. The other system that shows off this kind of setup is quite high-end, and the internal temperature under load ended up reaching 10°C above ambient. Even if it reaches 20°C somehow in my much less power hungry machine, that is still better than a lot of cases from a few years ago focused on silence/looks. And while the PCs in those do run hot, they work just fine.
4000D 4000X PC case is the affordable alternative version of HYTE Y70 is affordable. I bought and DIY installed a perfect fitted touch screen monitor from Amazon to display the CPU GPU temperature datas, The effect exceeded my expectations. With this fancy monitor, I believe i will use for years.😂
I just built in the 4000D airflow. I DID in fact run into the dust filter being sucked into the middle fan on the front of the case. This resulted in a terrible scratching sound. I solved this by installing some spacers in the middle. It pushed the middle of the dust filter out enough that it doesn't contact the fan even at full RPM. I wish they had engineers the screen a little better, but I was able to fix it
I have the same problem, I also thought of putting something in between the dust filter and the fan. Its so necessary if you dont want them to rub against one another
@@andreaagostinelli5310 so I have the stock fan in the stock places right now (i dont know what you have but this worked for me) and at the rpm its sitting at if you just push the mesh outward away from the fan mine doesn’t have enough power to suck it in, so there is no frictions between them, this might vary on what fan you have but thats what worked for me
I bought this case after researching a bit. Love it. Bought the white airflow version. Get great cooling and it looks amazing. Love the build quality. Everything snaps in and is easy to work with. I can vouch for this case
@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 still think its a great case. I had to upgrade to the 5000D to fit my new graphics card in it. I kind of liked the 4000D over the 5000D but they are still amazing computer cases. I still stand by them since i posted my last comment
Fantastic content; very thorough testing and analysis. Say -- did I miss something? I thought "4000X" was going to be yet a 3rd case in the series reviewed in this episode.
I bought this pretty much entirely on looks. The airflow model is beautiful in white. Running with quad 140's, a rear 120 and a noctua cpu cooler. With this loadout the only sound I hear during heavy gaming is from my graphics card. Love the case.
Made a build with this case a few days ago and I managed to squeeze in the 360mm corsair h150i elite capellix in the front. Overall, the case was a joy to build in compared to the lower quality cases I'm used too and my temps are great.
Did the same. Tight fit but it works. Absolutely loved the mounting stud for the motherboard. Tiny bit of metal, but it made a substantial difference to ease of installation. Between features, aesthetics, and price it's solid. Not perfect(a couple more front panel USB ports would be nice), but it's a good case that deserves its popularity.
@@ROZ7AH I’ve got that exact case with that cooler/fan setup and while my 3080 does get a little toasty it doesn’t really go above 80° under synthetic loads and stays around 73-75° in a game like Cyberpunk at Max Whack settings. No matter how I try I can’t get the CPU to break 60° it just stays too cool in stock config. I’m still working on tweaking my fan curves too.
Running a 4000D Airflow here in white, one of the cleanest and easiest cases I've ever worked with!! No wonder its the BEST SELLING case on Amazon currently. Just see for yourself. :) My Specs: 5600X RX6800 32GB RAM EVGA T2 1000W Corsair 4000D Airflow White
I got that case (4000D Airflow) recently, I'm happy with the purchase, it's quite a pretty case (got me the white version) with plenty of space and it's an overall delight in terms of cable managment. Can't say much for thermals, but I'm quite fine with it, just make sure to keep it clean as it gathers quite a bit of dust after a while.
I kinda fell in love with the look of the 4000D Airflow, and really enjoy mine. I was able to fit an NZXT X63 in the front with tubes down, and an EVGA P2 1000w with the drive cage installed. The white paint seems quite fragile, even factory installed fan screws left chips and bare metal when replacing them with my own fans.
I absolutely loved the 275R Airflow (Decent airflow but I was head over heels for the looks) so I was ECSTATIC when I heard about this case. I meant to wait for Steve's review...but I'm currently watching this with my 4000D Airflow to the right of me ;p I could not be happier with my purchase!!! It looks absolutely incredible, it was a dream to build in, and their included cable management eliminated any excuses to skimp on my own cable management. The two included fans are solid, not perfect, but solid. I'm using them as top mounted exhaust fans at the moment and will likely upgrade to match my noctua's in the future. They give off a quiet "whooshing" sound, but are by no means silent. This case isn't perfect, but it fit my color scheme and aesthetic wonderfully! I would highly recommend it if you're looking for a good balance between form and factor on a budget.
Almost bought a Corsair case for my new build but watched a few of your videos and went with the CM TD500 Mesh. Seeing this review doubles up the reassurance of my purchase. I love my case.
My brother just rebuilt my system in this today ($155 NZD black), i got the airflow one. I feel much better after this review! I used to have a case that was over 10 years old.
I was waiting for this review. Thank you Steve! Seems like my decision is made and I will most likely go with this, as it fits my aesthetic and seems to be pretty good for airflow, all on a budget.
I made the purchase a week ago, after watching your review of Lancool 215 case, and not this review.. I thought my previous comment might be read to mean otherwise, so making this clarificatory comment. 😅
I transferred my components into the Airflow case from my Corsair 200R and I'm very pleased with the results. It runs practically silent when at idle and even when all 5 120mm fans ramp up to max (I added another 3 from my 200R) it's still quieter. Also, the clear glass side panel in my white version allows an unobstructed view of the 7" monitor I have installed inside. I highly recommend the Airflow version.
Steve, I love the quality of your reviews. I sure hope people stayed until the end, your line at 26:05 is pure gold. Pretty sure you won't see that quote in the literature on that company's website. :-) Keep up the terrific work and please give Snowball a cuddle.
Best looking new case in a while. I had this on my list for the new PC I just built but ended up going with a P500A because I wanted 360mm AIO without having to front mount it, plus some other features over this.
I bought the 4000D Airflow for a build, I had no issues with it except that the black version comes with a heavily tinted panel. It's a nice aesthetic if you're doing an RGB build but if you're not running RGB you won't see through the panel.
I love your reviews and feel your testing is the gold standard in the PC industry. Please do testing on the Phanteks p600s. I’ve seen your tests for the p500a and enthoo pro 2 and would love to see how the p600s stacks up both with and without the sound dampening panels. Thanks for everything you do, you guys are awesome!
Seeing him quote prices 2 years ago and seeing them 120 bucks today is insane. The Lancool 215 being 70 then, well, good luck getting it for 100 bucks now, when there's a great sale.
Nice review. This case looks competitive and honestly the biggest thing for me is the aesthetics as it has a very modern and professional look. I'm glad to see they didn't sacrifice performance to achieve that, and at this price I believe this will sell well.
I bought the 4000D airflow a few weeks ago, and decked out out with fans both top and front I purchased afterwards. I can say that is like a hurricane in there now, I can feel the air when I open the side panel. It's also a very pretty case for the money.
I'm not crazy about christmas tree cases. A little RGB is nice on a motherboard, but what I find most appealing is a simple and clean aesthetic for the case itself. I really like this case (the airflow) and it performs well. That cable management around the HDD cage was the only notable hassle I ran into during my build. The depth is nice too for your taller air coolers (noctua d-15 has plenty of headroom).
I like this case design too. Probably the second best (based on my own design preference) case design. And I agree. I was thrilled at the idea of lighting in my PC at first but eventually got over it quickly. Case designs and making them work with the look of the components is where it's at.
Was looking at this case for my first build and this kind further proved that i think I'm making the right choice for this as my first build. This + 3 extra rgb fans at the front and moving the stock front one to the top as an extra exhaust seems like it'll be aces.
Go with the 4000x which comes with 3 LL120s I believe. Even if not the LL series, Corsair still makes pretty nice RGB fans otherwise. I'd go with that one to save on fan cost.
@@PatrickPoet either the corsair sp120s or Cooler Master masterFan MF Halos. I like those new Loan Li unis but they sold out here in Canada in minutes.
@@mark1A100 and a giant glass panel in the front for no airflow. I'd rather spend the extra money and fancy up the better case. Now if they make a 4000x airflow between now and January when I build this all my problems will be solved. Lol
as someone who’s attempting to build a pc for the first time, not much knowledge overall, these videos help me so much. im very indecisive and these videos are easy to follow along with as well as very informative!
I actually have the black version of the 4000D Airflow sitting in my living waiting for video cards to become available again. It'll be the first PC I build myself, and I'm looking forward to it!
I got the 4000D airflow. Not my first build but will be my first custom loop and currently waiting on new motherboard and gpu. I already mounted the radiator and fans out of impatience!
This channel has the best case reviews bar none. The phanteks p500a review done by gamers Nexus is what put me over the edge to buy that case to upgrade my functionally obsolete Anidees AI crystal.
@11:22 Ethos: The character or fundamental values of a person, people, culture, or movement. Ether / Aether: a substance once thought to fill all unoccupied space that allowed electromagnetic waves to pass through it and interact with matter, without exerting any resistance to matter or energy;
I have this case in black, love it, nice and compact yet still plenty of room, Tip: i saw 75 degrees on my gpu when vertically mounted, but only 65 horizontally, so avoid fitting it that way
and here i am, still sitting on my 900D in the basement because i want to mod it to hold dual systems with water cooling.... the 4kD air is a nice looking box tho, really sharp
4000D 4000X PC case is the affordable alternative version of HYTE Y70 is affordable. I bought and DIY installed a perfect fitted touch screen monitor from Amazon to display the CPU GPU temperature datas, The effect exceeded my expectations. With this fancy monitor, I believe i will use for years.
Great content as always, having a library of case video to link with builds is great. so im glad that this one is on the books because people have been asking about it .
8:11 We have no patience for case designs that use tiny, hidden pathways to admit trickles of air when it's clearly just as easy, if not easier, to work in better airflow even without sacrificing close-off looks. Finally someone said it. I'm sick of case manufacturers charging $100 for an "upgraded" version of the case which simply has a mesh front panel or an extra USB port on the front I/O or some other basic feature which can and should be included in the base version.
Use this case for a productivity/ office/ 1080p gaming system. First, I installed five Noctua NF-A12 fans to achieve adequate airflow. Everything in the chromax design, of course. The size of the case is chosen deliberately; for a high-performance system I would use a large tower.
I only just did a pc upgrade with this case. I'm not going to lie, the lack of rgb was a big thing for me, but i will admit that the look of it ultimately did it for me. The colour ,the minimal look and just how compact it looks without trying to be too small, was what tipped me over for this case. And i bloody love it.
I switched my case from a fractural design meshify c to this case and my cpu temp went from 80c to 68 average on max load and my gpu went from 73 to 67. I’m really liking it so far
Looks like a great case, aesthetically I love it, and its more all the cooling performance I think I would need. Great product for the price based on the GN review IMO. Thanks for putting in the time on these great case reviews GN.
it would be great if companies started moving to those rubber pull through screw replacements for fans if the metal is going to be so thin for fan mounting imo. the case itself looks great, glad to see corsair return to strong air flow and less RGB focus. decent price in my view for what you are getting.
I just got this case (airflow white version) for my birthday, and golly is it beautiful to look at, functional, easy to cable manage with and just great for thermals! Super happy with it, I suggest everyone that likes the aesthetic to buy it, especially if he has a couple extra fans lying around
@@AdikaraDwiAtmaja sheesh, I'm not sure of that, 2 will certainly fit tho. I might suggest you running open air with 3 gpu's, coz a case is gonna get very hot if you plan on mining inside of it
I personally recommend using Noctua Redux lineup for the front fans, the color palette matches nearly perfectly with the frame. Also a question, is this level of mesh need pressure-focused fans for reasonable airflow？My fans from my old h500 are NF-P14s' 1700 and very loud and i'm thinking to get a set of s12bs or somewhat.
been referring to your channel for months while slowly building a few PCs... just realized i haven't been subscribed this entire time! going to have to buy some merch and leave some likes to make up for it.
Gamers Nexus should make a video on GPU sag. and how bad it actually is, everyone throws all kinds of things into the pc, conductive or not to mitigate sag. I would love to see a total breakdown on what series cards sag the worst, what sags the least over time, and if braces are actually justified.
Lian li is about $100 CAD more expensive up North right now, sticking with the 4000D purchase at $120CAD (versus $225) Thanks for all the information!!
I just got mine for $65 on Black Friday. For that, I have been extremely happy. Glad to see Corsair getting back into higher quality cases, I owned an Obsidian 650D in 2013 and was enamored at the time.
*100%, completely silent PC method...* Steve, I've found that the absolute BEST method of making a PC quiet is to place a solid barrier over the Power Supply's power cable connection that is both acoustically and thermally non-conductive (in a pinch, a small air gap works just as well). The noise goes away completely.
I found a silencing switch *completely hidden* behind a small door in my garage. I don’t know why they put it so far away or tried to hide it (probably something to do with Comcast), but see if your house has one!
@Warm Soft Kitty yeah, me either to tell you the truth -- well sometimes when linux upgrades on my box the steam games won't run after so I shut it down and restart it.
It's funny, I have absolutely no interest in cases as large as the ones you review, but I love watching these case reviews I guess for the high level of detail, idk.
@@hexados7479 it's an ATX case. so it's large in the scale of things. It's not super large. but it's not mATX or ITX. so it is rather large comparatively
I would like to see a 4000x test and 4000x with the air flow front panel swapped onto it since the front panel is swappable in between all three models
I bought the 4000X for a new build before any performance review was out. It fit the bill and the needs just right, but I was (and am) still worried about thermal performance. Somewhere, I read that the front panel gaps between the glass and the body were larger than they are on the regular 4000. If that's true, then I think I'll be fine. But 6 case fans should let me brute force cooling anyways... Thanks for the review, GN!
Actually it’s the other way around, 4000D has a larger gap than the X, metal is usually thinner than glass. The 4000X might not be too bad depends on your fan config, but the stock layout with 3 fans in front is a thermal nightmare. And this is one that more fan doesn’t equal lower temp.
I bought this case specifically for that issue. Old case didnt fit my components. This case fits my vengeance rgb ram and my corsair aio up top. Itll fit with a 240mm aio but i can tell it won't fit a 280mm aio. Paul ran into that issue with this case
I'm about to build my very first PC and chose this case b/c it looked like it would have great airflow, and I don't plan on using liquid cooling. And of all the airflow options this one was by far the best looking IMO (in black). Glad to see it performs just as good as the others. :)
I know its a year later but I just order the same case for a 'budget' pc build and didnt plan on using water cooled and this review recommended. How did it work out for you?
Bought the airflow 4000d last month on impulse. Im really happy with it and threw a noctua d15 blk edition in it to cool a 3900x. I dont even hear it when its on.
Maybe reviews only take the ideal use into consideration. One thing the corsair mesh has over the others is that is is not metal. Metal will oxidate, rust, whatever your case even outside of extreme situations. It is also a dust magnet and you can't clean as easily.
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Review article: www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3624-corsair-4000d-airflow-case-review-vs-solid-panel
Day 69420 of asking you to review the Silverstone RL08
Steve, please review this card. I picked one up this weekend and it has the T104 but it's cooling is remarkable and overclocked it hit a 19318 on passmark. www.asus.com/Graphics-Cards/DUAL-RTX2060-O6G-MINI/.
Thank you guys for doing this!
I should clarify...It is in the 4000D Airflow case with a 3900XT and the new H100i Cappelix, B550 Aorus Pro A/C, 64gb 3600mhz RAM, 4 LL Fans - 3 Front, 1 Rear, Top 240 Radiator
I"ll stick to Lan Cool 215 for AIO clearance at the top for my 280.
Why do case manufacturers even send steve closed front panel cases? The conclusion will always be "buy the mesh front panel version" anyway.
It's of course for the exposure to the general audience. While most are performance-oriented, there will be some that are appearance-oriented. They will be the ones that will buy the front closed panel ones because they looked nice.
Well I would imagine that they want to sell products. In this case for example when it is a family of same chassis it is nice to see how much you lose on temps with the filled front option. 10c doesn't sound like the end of the world if you want the looks and aren't running a monster setup anyway for very high heat output. That being said I also sit in the functionality over form camp on computers personally.
Not everyone needs a good ventilated case. Steve has its focus on airflow, some people not and so its nice to see whats the trade off.
because there is a part of the market that doesnt focus so much on airflow and instead wants better acoustics and normally closed panel cases are beetter with them than the ones that are more for airflow.
Bad publicity is still good for them
11:20 "Presumably using magic and wizardry to wirelessly channel power from the ethos"
ah yes, the long awaited *fully-modular digital power supply*
Nikolai Tesla approves.
@@bgezal Underrated comment.
Knew we would have airpower tech before apple
I've been looking at cases and this one specifically. I never even noticed this picture. This is great.
Ether goddammit Ether!!!
Finally. I was waiting for GN's review before buying the airflow version.
So what have you decided post-review?
Owned it for almost a week now from an h500i. Loving it so far and easy to build in. Few minor complaints like no support for front 360 aio support tubes down
Was waiting, then I just decided to go with the airflow version after watching other’s review and looked at some of Steve’s old review of similar design, I was quite confident that the airflow version would pass Steve’s test. I am so glad I was right.
I couldn’t wait this cars looks amazing and is high quality. Bought the white version.
I ordered this case 3 days ago. The airflow one.
26:05 "an aquarium where gpus go to die so dont buy that one" 😂 this had me laughing
Yep, I bust into laugh as well :). Great review Steve
Me: Has an H510 with an ASUS Strix RX5700XT with custom fan curve and maximum stable OC capping out at 70C (55C delta) while eating warm air from a CPU AIO radiator in the front.
Yep, I had to rewind *twice* and listen to that again and again, just to make sure that's what Steve said.
Lmao but it looks so nice
It can use this to describe my Masterbox Lite 3.1 TG if I leave the "Dark Mirror" front panel on.
Thanks a ton for recommending the Lian Li Lancool 215 at the end. I saw it in the temperature charts and decided to check it out then saw the recommendation at the end but wow for the price, temps are great and comes with 2 front ARGB 200mm fans and 1 back exhaust fan, this is a steal, I gotta watch your review on it right now.
Also, thanks for the overall style of your videos, love the way you set them up to go over every last thing in a timely matter and appeal to all people in terms of taste of performance over aesthetics or vice versa or balanced. Thanks, you help me a lot more people so much.
Edit: Also youtube slapped your Lian Li Lancool 215 review right in the autoplay, that's convenient, again, thanks for all the case reviews, you do so much and it really helps.
Man, you do some amazing, honest reviews. I actually just purchased the 4000D Airflow (for aesthetics), but was prepared to return it if it didn’t do well enough in your review. Looks like I’ll be keeping it. Thanks again for your fantastic, brutally honest reviews!
How is the Case working for you? I'm curious and about to get the same.
@@klausdauer I haven’t actually used it yet lol. Couldn’t get a hold of parts to put inside of it, so my new build has been on hold. I’ve only installed fans and a power supply, but the quality and ease of use is fantastic. I’m sure there are other great cases out there too, but so far I’m satisfied.
@@baronvonricer a year later haven't used it after PURCHASE JEEEZUZ
@@BrandonSale 😂 yeah I’m pretty ashamed lol
@@baronvonricer please tell me you’ve used it by now? Only part that is hard to get is a gpu but even those are coming down in price now
I actually was looking at that case! Good timing!
Great job
The power of tech Jesus
same here
Same. Was debating between this+RGB fans or the 4000x. The solidified the choice to go with the airflow plus fans
@@mattcampbell1660 I was going to probably get the Corsair 465x rgb but not 100% sure yet.
I got the 4000D Airflow in white. It’s quite nice. I like the cable management, minimal design, and 3 areas of removable filters. It is also RGB friendly. The front doesn’t look as cool just sitting, but once you have a nice white glow from some fans behind it really looks cool
I actually prefer it with no LEDs but I’ve built like 20+ builds with this case and everyone wanted LEDs all over…
Yeah I couldn't build a pc without lights anymore. It's just adds to the showpiece
4000D 4000X PC case is the affordable alternative version of HYTE Y70 is affordable. I bought and DIY installed a perfect fitted touch screen monitor from Amazon to display the CPU GPU temperature datas, The effect exceeded my expectations. With this fancy monitor, I believe i will use for years.
"there's a place for cases with solid front panels."
I was really expecting a landfill joke here.
The laser cutter?^^
Since i have external watercooling and only need minimal airflow (powerstage, chipset)
in the case i still like a non mesh non dust collecting,
almost completely closed case.
Without any rgb, glass windows or progameredgy showoff design taking up more space.
Also reduces coilwhine noise getting out.
@@PsiQ This. I am in the process of building a custom loop with an external radiator (mounted to the side of the case for easier relocation) and I am planning to seal the case as much as I can to block all high frequency noise, cooling the air inside with a 360mm radiator. (There are tons of threads online saying this won't work but noone in those threads has personal experience, while I have read about 2 systems so far that utilise this system and work flawlessly.)
I am glad that these reviews resulted in a wide variety of affordable cases that I can recommend to others, but it sure as hell made it difficult to find a case that is as closed off as possible (I would make a custom one, but I suck at fabrication).
In the end, I bought a rackmount case from 2004 with almost no holes, which I plan to block with acoustic foam. It looks very outdated, but it is made from thick steel (which is something I wish Steve focused on a bit more, 0.8mm SECC is just not enough with all of the cutouts modern cases have) and it has surprisingly pleasing aesthetics - very industrial looking.
@@phenomanII
Cooling the Air inside with the rad (meaning no airflow in/out will make the heat transfer with a rad (even 360) really hard, because you wont have a high enough dT for the rad to really work. The cpu/gpu usually have tenmps around 50 to 60°C, ambient room is about 22 to 26°C leaving the water temps in the middle. If you use air to water to air even if its already really hot inside there is not much dT for physics to work which means really high volume airflow needed..
I guess having a blank metal casewall and blowing the air against that would work better than foam isolating. If there is no hole, sound will transfer only by vibration.
I always used the psu fan, which with external cpu/gpu doesnt have much heat to move along. Also 750w platinum for efficiency.
Then adding one fan behind the normal cpu cooler with a shroud to blow on the area around the cpu/ram.
Having the psu + back fan on the back + low part behind a table stops noise. You could add a sound trap/labyrinth with some overlapping boards.
@@PsiQ I was planning something like that before I heard about the systems using an internal radiator that show that it does indeed work. Making a sound trap would require fabrication which wouldn't be that easy and would make the case a lot bigger and as I said, I want the PC to be easy to relocate.
I know that the dT isn't great for the efficiency of the internal rad, but one of the systems I read about was in a custom sealed cabinet and the owner even used an aircooled GPU for a long time with no issues.
My system will use waterblocks to cool the CPU and GPU so the internal case temperature will only affect SMD components, the PSU and SSDs - no HDD in the PC (they are noisy after all).
I know that the internal case temperature would slowly rise due to these components, but the hotter it gets inside, the more efficient the internal rad gets.
The other system that shows off this kind of setup is quite high-end, and the internal temperature under load ended up reaching 10°C above ambient. Even if it reaches 20°C somehow in my much less power hungry machine, that is still better than a lot of cases from a few years ago focused on silence/looks. And while the PCs in those do run hot, they work just fine.
"We're reviewing the 4000D and the 4000D Airflow today."
I wonder which one they like better?
I have a large universitie's render farm using CUDA code trying to answer that very question. It just crashed. lol
4000D 4000X PC case is the affordable alternative version of HYTE Y70 is affordable. I bought and DIY installed a perfect fitted touch screen monitor from Amazon to display the CPU GPU temperature datas, The effect exceeded my expectations. With this fancy monitor, I believe i will use for years.😂
I just built in the 4000D airflow. I DID in fact run into the dust filter being sucked into the middle fan on the front of the case. This resulted in a terrible scratching sound. I solved this by installing some spacers in the middle. It pushed the middle of the dust filter out enough that it doesn't contact the fan even at full RPM. I wish they had engineers the screen a little better, but I was able to fix it
I have the same problem, I also thought of putting something in between the dust filter and the fan. Its so necessary if you dont want them to rub against one another
Dude, can you be more specific about how you fixed the problem, that would really help. Thanks
@@andreaagostinelli5310 so I have the stock fan in the stock places right now (i dont know what you have but this worked for me) and at the rpm its sitting at if you just push the mesh outward away from the fan mine doesn’t have enough power to suck it in, so there is no frictions between them, this might vary on what fan you have but thats what worked for me
Dude, just contact the service team, and get a new dust filter
@João M. wow good to know
I bought this case after researching a bit. Love it. Bought the white airflow version. Get great cooling and it looks amazing. Love the build quality. Everything snaps in and is easy to work with. I can vouch for this case
How is it holding up a few years on? Thinking of upgrading and 4000D series seems pretty solid.
@justsomeguywithsunglasses8418 still think its a great case. I had to upgrade to the 5000D to fit my new graphics card in it. I kind of liked the 4000D over the 5000D but they are still amazing computer cases. I still stand by them since i posted my last comment
@@mrmitch9002 Thanks!
Fantastic content; very thorough testing and analysis. Say -- did I miss something? I thought "4000X" was going to be yet a 3rd case in the series reviewed in this episode.
I cant tell you how long I've waited for this. I wanted to get this but want Steve's seal of approval.
I bought this pretty much entirely on looks. The airflow model is beautiful in white. Running with quad 140's, a rear 120 and a noctua cpu cooler. With this loadout the only sound I hear during heavy gaming is from my graphics card. Love the case.
Made a build with this case a few days ago and I managed to squeeze in the 360mm corsair h150i elite capellix in the front. Overall, the case was a joy to build in compared to the lower quality cases I'm used too and my temps are great.
Did the same. Tight fit but it works.
Absolutely loved the mounting stud for the motherboard. Tiny bit of metal, but it made a substantial difference to ease of installation. Between features, aesthetics, and price it's solid. Not perfect(a couple more front panel USB ports would be nice), but it's a good case that deserves its popularity.
I've got the 4000x glass front and i'm planning to go h150i in the front, 2 top exhaust fans and 1 rear. Will my thermals be OK?
@@ROZ7AH yes should be
@@ROZ7AH I’ve got that exact case with that cooler/fan setup and while my 3080 does get a little toasty it doesn’t really go above 80° under synthetic loads and stays around 73-75° in a game like Cyberpunk at Max Whack settings.
No matter how I try I can’t get the CPU to break 60° it just stays too cool in stock config.
I’m still working on tweaking my fan curves too.
Did you mount the cooler with the pipes in the bottom?
Running a 4000D Airflow here in white, one of the cleanest and easiest cases I've ever worked with!! No wonder its the BEST SELLING case on Amazon currently. Just see for yourself. :)
My Specs:
5600X
RX6800
32GB RAM
EVGA T2 1000W
Corsair 4000D Airflow White
I picked up the black Corsair 4000D airflow and I love this case. Great review bruh. Building in this case was a breeze and highly recommend.
No RGB? Is this really from Corsair?
The x version has rgb
lmaoo
From the company that brought us rgb mouse pads, truly subverted my expectations.
My response to Corsair or Razer product claiming to have no RGB or is "tasteful": 🤔
@@jonathanlarsen4177 Maybe, I just remember this video from back in the day. ruclips.net/video/dBWnYlDOUdk/видео.html
I got that case (4000D Airflow) recently, I'm happy with the purchase, it's quite a pretty case (got me the white version) with plenty of space and it's an overall delight in terms of cable managment. Can't say much for thermals, but I'm quite fine with it, just make sure to keep it clean as it gathers quite a bit of dust after a while.
I hope good airflow stays for for good! It's great to see good options from multiple manufacturers.
I kinda fell in love with the look of the 4000D Airflow, and really enjoy mine. I was able to fit an NZXT X63 in the front with tubes down, and an EVGA P2 1000w with the drive cage installed. The white paint seems quite fragile, even factory installed fan screws left chips and bare metal when replacing them with my own fans.
after one year did you have any problems with the NZXT water cooling in this case?
What about fitting the AIO radiator at the top? Clearance issues?
I've been watching a ton of reviews on this case but once this vid came out, I knew I had to listen to what you had to say about it. Let's gooo
Ordered this before completing the video. Youre such a good reviewer and you reviewed every case I was considering. Thank you.
I absolutely loved the 275R Airflow (Decent airflow but I was head over heels for the looks) so I was ECSTATIC when I heard about this case. I meant to wait for Steve's review...but I'm currently watching this with my 4000D Airflow to the right of me ;p I could not be happier with my purchase!!! It looks absolutely incredible, it was a dream to build in, and their included cable management eliminated any excuses to skimp on my own cable management. The two included fans are solid, not perfect, but solid. I'm using them as top mounted exhaust fans at the moment and will likely upgrade to match my noctua's in the future. They give off a quiet "whooshing" sound, but are by no means silent. This case isn't perfect, but it fit my color scheme and aesthetic wonderfully! I would highly recommend it if you're looking for a good balance between form and factor on a budget.
Omg same, my 4000d arrived today its standing right next to me
Almost bought a Corsair case for my new build but watched a few of your videos and went with the CM TD500 Mesh. Seeing this review doubles up the reassurance of my purchase. I love my case.
Less than 2 minutes in, already getting good vibes. Waiting on the numbers, but already like the clean look of the front panel.
Damn. 9 minutes in now, yeah the size constraints gonna kill it for me. Well Poop.
My brother just rebuilt my system in this today ($155 NZD black), i got the airflow one. I feel much better after this review! I used to have a case that was over 10 years old.
I was waiting for this review. Thank you Steve! Seems like my decision is made and I will most likely go with this, as it fits my aesthetic and seems to be pretty good for airflow, all on a budget.
Thanks Steve, I purchased Lancool 215 after watching your review, I'm happy with it. 😊👍
I made the purchase a week ago, after watching your review of Lancool 215 case, and not this review.. I thought my previous comment might be read to mean otherwise, so making this clarificatory comment. 😅
Nice! Glad it was helpful!
I transferred my components into the Airflow case from my Corsair 200R and I'm very pleased with the results. It runs practically silent when at idle and even when all 5 120mm fans ramp up to max (I added another 3 from my 200R) it's still quieter. Also, the clear glass side panel in my white version allows an unobstructed view of the 7" monitor I have installed inside. I highly recommend the Airflow version.
And here am I considering moving into the 200R
It comes with a tinted side panel no?
@@jmd1980 The black version has tinted glass I believe. The white case is practically clear.
@@mikep9418 Ah interesting, didn't notice that. This will make me take a harder look at the white case then, thanks!
Btw would love to know more about the LCD you have inside. Pic if you have.
Steve, I love the quality of your reviews. I sure hope people stayed until the end, your line at 26:05 is pure gold. Pretty sure you won't see that quote in the literature on that company's website. :-) Keep up the terrific work and please give Snowball a cuddle.
Best looking new case in a while. I had this on my list for the new PC I just built but ended up going with a P500A because I wanted 360mm AIO without having to front mount it, plus some other features over this.
I bought the 4000D Airflow for a build, I had no issues with it except that the black version comes with a heavily tinted panel. It's a nice aesthetic if you're doing an RGB build but if you're not running RGB you won't see through the panel.
man how is it working.....I just ordered it😭....also any tips for building.....this is my first build I am so excited🥹
I love your reviews and feel your testing is the gold standard in the PC industry. Please do testing on the Phanteks p600s. I’ve seen your tests for the p500a and enthoo pro 2 and would love to see how the p600s stacks up both with and without the sound dampening panels. Thanks for everything you do, you guys are awesome!
Seeing him quote prices 2 years ago and seeing them 120 bucks today is insane. The Lancool 215 being 70 then, well, good luck getting it for 100 bucks now, when there's a great sale.
Nice review. This case looks competitive and honestly the biggest thing for me is the aesthetics as it has a very modern and professional look. I'm glad to see they didn't sacrifice performance to achieve that, and at this price I believe this will sell well.
Same, I get Mac Pro vibes from it.
A gamers nexus case review :) is always a joy to watch.
"Before that"
I love this Channel!
I bought the 4000D airflow a few weeks ago, and decked out out with fans both top and front I purchased afterwards. I can say that is like a hurricane in there now, I can feel the air when I open the side panel. It's also a very pretty case for the money.
I'm not crazy about christmas tree cases. A little RGB is nice on a motherboard, but what I find most appealing is a simple and clean aesthetic for the case itself. I really like this case (the airflow) and it performs well. That cable management around the HDD cage was the only notable hassle I ran into during my build. The depth is nice too for your taller air coolers (noctua d-15 has plenty of headroom).
I like this case design too. Probably the second best (based on my own design preference) case design.
And I agree. I was thrilled at the idea of lighting in my PC at first but eventually got over it quickly. Case designs and making them work with the look of the components is where it's at.
I have the airflow - totally happy. Great temps.
Was looking at this case for my first build and this kind further proved that i think I'm making the right choice for this as my first build. This + 3 extra rgb fans at the front and moving the stock front one to the top as an extra exhaust seems like it'll be aces.
sounds smart, what fans are you looking at?
You may just want the x varienr witch ships with rgb fans
Go with the 4000x which comes with 3 LL120s I believe. Even if not the LL series, Corsair still makes pretty nice RGB fans otherwise. I'd go with that one to save on fan cost.
@@PatrickPoet either the corsair sp120s or Cooler Master masterFan MF Halos. I like those new Loan Li unis but they sold out here in Canada in minutes.
@@mark1A100 and a giant glass panel in the front for no airflow. I'd rather spend the extra money and fancy up the better case. Now if they make a 4000x airflow between now and January when I build this all my problems will be solved. Lol
I searched gamers nexus 4000D yesterday and look what i got today, nice job as always!
seeing this video in my notifications makes me very happy
Thank you Gamer Nexus for not overloading or putting any ADS on your video 🙏🙏
GN Case Review: I click immediately
as someone who’s attempting to build a pc for the first time, not much knowledge overall, these videos help me so much. im very indecisive and these videos are easy to follow along with as well as very informative!
I actually have the black version of the 4000D Airflow sitting in my living waiting for video cards to become available again. It'll be the first PC I build myself, and I'm looking forward to it!
Ha! I am in the same boat! Waiting for the RAM and SSD to be delivered. Choose the 4000D Airflow black for my first build in this century.
I got the 4000D airflow. Not my first build but will be my first custom loop and currently waiting on new motherboard and gpu. I already mounted the radiator and fans out of impatience!
was waiting for that video! also requested it on twitter! thanks for the upload!
Can’t wait to hear what you have to say
I bought a 4000D airflow yesterday. Very happy at this price bracket, and it clears noctua DH15 :)
What do you mean by clears Noctua dh15?
1000w PSU. The "w" stands for "wizardry".
wireless
1kw k stands for krappy Chinese bomb
1000wut
Powered by 1000 small wizards inside.
This channel has the best case reviews bar none. The phanteks p500a review done by gamers Nexus is what put me over the edge to buy that case to upgrade my functionally obsolete Anidees AI crystal.
Was waiting for this video to finally buy this case. Thanks a lot GN team!!
@11:22
Ethos: The character or fundamental values of a person, people, culture, or movement.
Ether / Aether: a substance once thought to fill all unoccupied space that allowed electromagnetic waves to pass through it and interact with matter, without exerting any resistance to matter or energy;
further proves steve is a wizard
I chose this case for my first PC build in large part because of this review. I really like it.
I have this case in black, love it, nice and compact yet still plenty of room,
Tip: i saw 75 degrees on my gpu when vertically mounted, but only 65 horizontally, so avoid fitting it that way
I bought a 4000D Airflow ready for my next build, haven't even opened the box yet but now I know I can build with confidence thanks to this review :D
Same here
and here i am, still sitting on my 900D in the basement because i want to mod it to hold dual systems with water cooling.... the 4kD air is a nice looking box tho, really sharp
4000D 4000X PC case is the affordable alternative version of HYTE Y70 is affordable. I bought and DIY installed a perfect fitted touch screen monitor from Amazon to display the CPU GPU temperature datas, The effect exceeded my expectations. With this fancy monitor, I believe i will use for years.
Great content as always, having a library of case video to link with builds is great. so im glad that this one is on the books because people have been asking about it .
Thanks for the video! Was eyeing this case for a friend's build (only even considering airflow version mind you), and this helped in the decision.
Wow Corsair solved the problem of cable management!
Magic is all you need, no cords required
i have the 4000D non airflow and have had no issues
8:11 We have no patience for case designs that use tiny, hidden pathways to admit trickles of air when it's clearly just as easy, if not easier, to work in better airflow even without sacrificing close-off looks.
Finally someone said it. I'm sick of case manufacturers charging $100 for an "upgraded" version of the case which simply has a mesh front panel or an extra USB port on the front I/O or some other basic feature which can and should be included in the base version.
Use this case for a productivity/ office/ 1080p gaming system. First, I installed five Noctua NF-A12 fans to achieve adequate airflow. Everything in the chromax design, of course. The size of the case is chosen deliberately; for a high-performance system I would use a large tower.
"The NZHT H510 Elite is an aquarium where GPU's go to die." lol
GPUs - no ' sign.
lol facts i got one at first it was doing good now shit be like a oven so i was like let me see about this case
Great reviews you guys make. Helped me a lot with making a choice among al the available PC cases.👍🏽🙏🏼
I only just did a pc upgrade with this case. I'm not going to lie, the lack of rgb was a big thing for me, but i will admit that the look of it ultimately did it for me. The colour ,the minimal look and just how compact it looks without trying to be too small, was what tipped me over for this case. And i bloody love it.
I know right, the look is exceptional
I switched my case from a fractural design meshify c to this case and my cpu temp went from 80c to 68 average on max load and my gpu went from 73 to 67. I’m really liking it so far
Looks like a great case, aesthetically I love it, and its more all the cooling performance I think I would need. Great product for the price based on the GN review IMO. Thanks for putting in the time on these great case reviews GN.
Thanks for the vid Steve, gonna get the airflow for my next buildp
it would be great if companies started moving to those rubber pull through screw replacements for fans if the metal is going to be so thin for fan mounting imo. the case itself looks great, glad to see corsair return to strong air flow and less RGB focus. decent price in my view for what you are getting.
I just got this case (airflow white version) for my birthday, and golly is it beautiful to look at, functional, easy to cable manage with and just great for thermals! Super happy with it, I suggest everyone that likes the aesthetic to buy it, especially if he has a couple extra fans lying around
Are the fans rgb or not?
@@dylnb137 No, the airflow version lacks rgb fans, which is unfortunate
is it enough room for 3 gpu?
2 on board, and the other 1 on riser?
@@AdikaraDwiAtmaja sheesh, I'm not sure of that, 2 will certainly fit tho. I might suggest you running open air with 3 gpu's, coz a case is gonna get very hot if you plan on mining inside of it
Corsair's marketing team developed Power Over Ethernet for gaming PCs, get on the wave Steve 😱
Is this a joke??
Yeah this is a joke for sure.
But why keep the PSU then? 😛
@@christophervanzetta yes 11:12
@@Mr3Trois3 PSU-marketing ;)
@@Mr3Trois3 a e s t h e t i c s
Well done Steve, making cases better for all of us!
I personally recommend using Noctua Redux lineup for the front fans, the color palette matches nearly perfectly with the frame.
Also a question, is this level of mesh need pressure-focused fans for reasonable airflow？My fans from my old h500 are NF-P14s' 1700 and very loud and i'm thinking to get a set of s12bs or somewhat.
been referring to your channel for months while slowly building a few PCs... just realized i haven't been subscribed this entire time! going to have to buy some merch and leave some likes to make up for it.
Gamers Nexus should make a video on GPU sag. and how bad it actually is, everyone throws all kinds of things into the pc, conductive or not to mitigate sag. I would love to see a total breakdown on what series cards sag the worst, what sags the least over time, and if braces are actually justified.
I used to have my GPU supported by a pillar made of leftover Lego pieces lol
Lian li is about $100 CAD more expensive up North right now, sticking with the 4000D purchase at $120CAD (versus $225)
Thanks for all the information!!
Getting this case on in a couple of days. I like it.
I still remember the one square case with the really good airflow. Nice to see them back.
I just got mine for $65 on Black Friday. For that, I have been extremely happy. Glad to see Corsair getting back into higher quality cases, I owned an Obsidian 650D in 2013 and was enamored at the time.
So did I....was a straight up steal at that price
*100%, completely silent PC method...*
Steve, I've found that the absolute BEST method of making a PC quiet is to place a solid barrier over the Power Supply's power cable connection that is both acoustically and thermally non-conductive (in a pinch, a small air gap works just as well). The noise goes away completely.
I found a silencing switch *completely hidden* behind a small door in my garage. I don’t know why they put it so far away or tried to hide it (probably something to do with Comcast), but see if your house has one!
Literally lol'd
wat?
I've found the absolute BEST method of making a PC quiet is to turn it off
@Warm Soft Kitty yeah, me either to tell you the truth -- well sometimes when linux upgrades on my box the steam games won't run after so I shut it down and restart it.
Thanks! Been waiting for this for a while.
It's funny, I have absolutely no interest in cases as large as the ones you review, but I love watching these case reviews I guess for the high level of detail, idk.
This is a pretty small case tbh I could even say average I mean have you seen the Corsair Obsidian 1000D
@@hexados7479 it's an ATX case. so it's large in the scale of things. It's not super large. but it's not mATX or ITX. so it is rather large comparatively
As an owner of a 1000D, this case is far from large and I wish Corsair made actually large cases again.
@@Haargeroya fuck yeah I want to be able to put 2 or 3 motherboards in 1 case one for gaming one for streaming and one as a workstation
Thanks! I have been waiting for this review.
It's refreshing to hear the measurements in centimeters.
The case review I have been waiting for. 👀🔭
I would like to see a 4000x test and 4000x with the air flow front panel swapped onto it since the front panel is swappable in between all three models
I bought the 4000X for a new build before any performance review was out. It fit the bill and the needs just right, but I was (and am) still worried about thermal performance. Somewhere, I read that the front panel gaps between the glass and the body were larger than they are on the regular 4000. If that's true, then I think I'll be fine. But 6 case fans should let me brute force cooling anyways...
Thanks for the review, GN!
Actually it’s the other way around, 4000D has a larger gap than the X, metal is usually thinner than glass. The 4000X might not be too bad depends on your fan config, but the stock layout with 3 fans in front is a thermal nightmare. And this is one that more fan doesn’t equal lower temp.
My biggest issue was that I made the newb mistake of getting RAM that interferes with a top mounted radiator.
several reviews of this case have mentioned the same issue
even with corsair ram sticks
they need to be low profile
I wouldn't say that was a "newb" mistake... but more like a loud genuine "F**K~!" reaction to hardware incompatibility
I bought this case specifically for that issue. Old case didnt fit my components. This case fits my vengeance rgb ram and my corsair aio up top. Itll fit with a 240mm aio but i can tell it won't fit a 280mm aio. Paul ran into that issue with this case
yeah, its states that in the quick start guide, you need LPX DRAM, i was lucky i already had that ram in my system when in switched to that case
@J Fz or just remove the heatsink if you don't care about looks
I'm about to build my very first PC and chose this case b/c it looked like it would have great airflow, and I don't plan on using liquid cooling. And of all the airflow options this one was by far the best looking IMO (in black). Glad to see it performs just as good as the others. :)
I know its a year later but I just order the same case for a 'budget' pc build and didnt plan on using water cooled and this review recommended. How did it work out for you?
@@adazedgamer no complaints here its a great case and was easy to build in
Bought the airflow 4000d last month on impulse. Im really happy with it and threw a noctua d15 blk edition in it to cool a 3900x. I dont even hear it when its on.
As a designer I care a lot about the aesthetics of the case and in my opinion this is the best looking airflow case currently on the market.
Corsair sending Steve all the cases like "can you tell us if these are any good?"
FINALLY A GAMERSNEXUS REVIEW!!! ❤️🥺 Been waiting for them to do a review before I buy it! 😬
Maybe reviews only take the ideal use into consideration.
One thing the corsair mesh has over the others is that is is not metal. Metal will oxidate, rust, whatever your case even outside of extreme situations.
It is also a dust magnet and you can't clean as easily.