Back in the day when I used to load shot shells, Win. AA's were my favorite hulls, I occasionally got a hold of Remington Peters left on the dove field to load and shoot skeet with.
I have a few of the newer AAs sitting aside, so I'm going to try those out here soon. Haven't ever seen the older style. These Remingtons are nice, but I want to save them for when I get to doing buckshot.
I have Lee presses for 12ga and 20ga. I also have MEC presses in 12 and .410. I can't imagine anyone honestly preferring the Lee. They are dirt cheap, but there are better choices for more money. No resizing rings to mess with, not having to worry about having a pleat pointed at you when you crimp and actual height adjustments for uniform crimps vs doing it by "feel" on a non-adjustable ram all make for a much better experience. It's easy to buckle a hull with the Lee.
I just bought 1750 of these hulls. Your video makes me feel a lot better about the $150 I just spent on them. I was a bit worried that I got the short end of the stick.
@@DummyRound That's a great question! I'm trying to find data for a good waterfowl load. I'm looking at steel or a steel/TSS duplex load. My problem is finding available data for the components I can get my hands on. Finding any TSS data at all is like pulling teeth. I'm really new to reloading and I'm figuring this stuff out slowly.
I got a Load All to do 20 ga and a "Survival Loader" to do .410. It is relaxing and fun to load shotgun shells once you're set up. Good luck with the booms!
I have a load all 2 in my closet I have had that thing for at least 4 years. I got into casting slugs and figured out how to make what U.J. calls the hobo slug. And never moved on from that I was always interested in slugs. But I do need to run buck shot but before I can I have to invest in a buck shot mold
I've got the Lee #4 and 00 buck shot molds, but need a casting session with them. Then I want to get one of the HF drum tumblers to run the shot in and really round them out nicely. Then powder coating after that. I have some shot buffer and a roll crimp tool on the way, and already acqiored some bingo chips as an over-shot card. Hoping to make some nice rounds over the summer as I get time to piece it together. Hope you're doing well, brother!
I was lucky , a friend gave me 2 bags of STS hulls and a bag each of the black and green Remington hulls . Are lining up the crimp line in the hull with the loader ? That can cause the swirly crimps .
@@DummyRound You can take the metal arms loose and look inside the pre crimp die and see where they line up to the hull . I scribe a line on the press to show where to line the hull to the pre crimp dies . On my press the 6 and 8 point position is slightly different . Once you have this figured out , the rest is smooth sailing .
I was going to do just that... as soon as I run through the powder and shot in the hoppers 🤣 until then I'm just going to slow down and note where I'm placing them and get a better feeling for it through the handle.
@@DummyRound I think much depends on how well defined the remaining crimp on the fired hull is. If you come down slowly & lightly with the pre crimp stage the hull might rotate itself into place. Then the old & new crimps will be matched & you can come down all the way with it. Same goes for the final crimp.
I got so confused with hulls and recipes that now I only distinguish two kinds straight wall and tapered. Also before I reload different kind of hull i don't have an experience with - I always cut the hull in half to fit the best wad , not necessary the recipe followed on wad ( cut it by the length to see if the wad wobbles inside the hull )
No experience with the Lee I have a Mec 600 jr. But as far as Hulls go Rem Nitro STS and Gun club all seem to load the same on my machine without a crimp adjustment. I've been using the gun clubs with cheddites and saving the Nitros/STS for US made primers.
The Gun Clubs seem pretty nice, too. I'm just going to stack up on the Cheddite primers since they're pretty much always available at this point. The domestic types still seem more rare, and are still 30%+ more expensive. A few thousand primers will last me a very long time in the world of shot shell reloading so I'm just going to get what I need for the foreseeable future and be done with it. Thanks!
I have a 410 upper that I have never fired because I wanted to reload for it - little did I know that there was zero ammo available and the cheapest way to get into reloading it is a $300+ MEC lol..... that project is a long ways away but should be awesome when I get there
So this video is 9 months old now....just found your channel....Just to say, the Lee loader is half the price of the MEC 600jr, but the MEC 600jr is an order of magnitude better in all ways. The Lee works, sort of, but for the money you'll be far better off with the MEC.
That's the plan. I need to get the HF drum tumbler to get the buckshot perfectly rounded out after casting and cutting them apart. That's all after I get around to casting some up! Any tips or recommendations? Thanks 👍🇺🇸👊
I have only loaded up a little over a hundred but the AA hulls loaded up nicely. I never realized there were so many styles. Fortunecookie45lc has great videos on shotguns. You might like his videos
So many styles! Just have to watch for tapered vs straight and your wad is good... for the most part. I've been watching FC45, BRO, Shotgun Scientists, and whoever else is uploading shot shell reloading videos. Great stuff!
Back in the day when I used to load shot shells, Win. AA's were my favorite hulls, I occasionally got a hold of Remington Peters left on the dove field to load and shoot skeet with.
I have a few of the newer AAs sitting aside, so I'm going to try those out here soon. Haven't ever seen the older style. These Remingtons are nice, but I want to save them for when I get to doing buckshot.
Always a toss-up between those two tapered hulls for me. For straight wall, I'll take the Federal Premium.
I have Lee presses for 12ga and 20ga. I also have MEC presses in 12 and .410. I can't imagine anyone honestly preferring the Lee. They are dirt cheap, but there are better choices for more money. No resizing rings to mess with, not having to worry about having a pleat pointed at you when you crimp and actual height adjustments for uniform crimps vs doing it by "feel" on a non-adjustable ram all make for a much better experience. It's easy to buckle a hull with the Lee.
The MECs are way ahead of the Lee stuff, without question. I love my 600jr, but the load all gets the job done if you need it to👍🇺🇲
Heck, I really like Rem gun club hulls too
Looks like your really starting to dial it in. It's a pretty easy press to master
once you get the hull/wad/shot and powder bushings down.
It's a whole lot of fun once you know what the bushings are actually dropping.
I just bought 1750 of these hulls. Your video makes me feel a lot better about the $150 I just spent on them. I was a bit worried that I got the short end of the stick.
They are very nice. It sounds like you got a decent deal, too. What are you going to be loading up?
@@DummyRound That's a great question! I'm trying to find data for a good waterfowl load. I'm looking at steel or a steel/TSS duplex load. My problem is finding available data for the components I can get my hands on. Finding any TSS data at all is like pulling teeth. I'm really new to reloading and I'm figuring this stuff out slowly.
@@genekind8752 MG42 wad will fit the STS hull BUT mica wad slick is a must.
I got a Load All to do 20 ga and a "Survival Loader" to do .410. It is relaxing and fun to load shotgun shells once you're set up. Good luck with the booms!
Very nice. What is this 410 tool you speak of?
@@DummyRound Kinda like whack a mole Lee Loader, but for .410
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I have a load all 2 in my closet I have had that thing for at least 4 years. I got into casting slugs and figured out how to make what U.J. calls the hobo slug. And never moved on from that I was always interested in slugs. But I do need to run buck shot but before I can I have to invest in a buck shot mold
I've got the Lee #4 and 00 buck shot molds, but need a casting session with them. Then I want to get one of the HF drum tumblers to run the shot in and really round them out nicely. Then powder coating after that. I have some shot buffer and a roll crimp tool on the way, and already acqiored some bingo chips as an over-shot card. Hoping to make some nice rounds over the summer as I get time to piece it together. Hope you're doing well, brother!
@@DummyRound The rabbit hole is deep when you start with buck shot and slugs .
Nuts! Yuppers, camera on everything falls apart! lol!
🤣we survived👌
Nice video.
8 point fold, the "valley" faces you.
6 point fold, the "points" faces you.
👍🤠🇺🇲Thanks
@@DummyRound My pleasure, brother
Fun fact: There is a "Playskool" logo on the bottom of Lee presses.
Thanks for sharing. Ill have to try some RP hulls out
Thanks for watching. They seemed very high quality for being fired.
I was lucky , a friend gave me 2 bags of STS hulls and a bag each of the black and green Remington hulls . Are lining up the crimp line in the hull with the loader ? That can cause the swirly crimps .
I'm haven't found the sweet spot for it to line up with, but they'll still go bang!(hopefully) A good excuse to load more - practice.
@@DummyRound You can take the metal arms loose and look inside the pre crimp die and see where they line up to the hull . I scribe a line on the press to show where to line the hull to the pre crimp dies . On my press the 6 and 8 point position is slightly different . Once you have this figured out , the rest is smooth sailing .
I was going to do just that... as soon as I run through the powder and shot in the hoppers 🤣 until then I'm just going to slow down and note where I'm placing them and get a better feeling for it through the handle.
@@DummyRound I think much depends on how well defined the remaining crimp on the fired hull is. If you come down slowly & lightly with the pre crimp stage the hull might rotate itself into place. Then the old & new crimps will be matched & you can come down all the way with it. Same goes for the final crimp.
Makes sense, thanks🇺🇲👍
They look well done
Thanks! Hope you had a good weekend👍👊🇺🇸
as Bruce Willis would say, "welcome to the party pal"
🤣 Better late than never!
I got so confused with hulls and recipes that now I only distinguish two kinds straight wall and tapered. Also before I reload different kind of hull i don't have an experience with - I always cut the hull in half to fit the best wad , not necessary the recipe followed on wad ( cut it by the length to see if the wad wobbles inside the hull )
Yep, great tip to check for proper fit and seal! Thanks🇺🇸👍
No experience with the Lee I have a Mec 600 jr. But as far as Hulls go Rem Nitro STS and Gun club all seem to load the same on my machine without a crimp adjustment. I've been using the gun clubs with cheddites and saving the Nitros/STS for US made primers.
The Gun Clubs seem pretty nice, too. I'm just going to stack up on the Cheddite primers since they're pretty much always available at this point. The domestic types still seem more rare, and are still 30%+ more expensive. A few thousand primers will last me a very long time in the world of shot shell reloading so I'm just going to get what I need for the foreseeable future and be done with it. Thanks!
Getting it done on those 12ga loads. Think only thing that would pull me into shotgun loaf would be loading 410
I have a 410 upper that I have never fired because I wanted to reload for it - little did I know that there was zero ammo available and the cheapest way to get into reloading it is a $300+ MEC lol..... that project is a long ways away but should be awesome when I get there
So this video is 9 months old now....just found your channel....Just to say, the Lee loader is half the price of the MEC 600jr, but the MEC 600jr is an order of magnitude better in all ways. The Lee works, sort of, but for the money you'll be far better off with the MEC.
I have the 600jr now, and love it. Haven't set the Lee back up since I moved. Doesn't mean I'm done with it, just need more bench space lol
Where did you find the black shell holder ?
It's the Lee 50BMG loading block 👍🇺🇲
Ah thanks so much
No problem👊
If you order a second sizing ring you could do two at a time
I thought about getting a second one just because I know I'll lose the one that came with it!
@@DummyRound in that case order three
🤣👌
@@DummyRoundThat "2 is 1 & 1 is none" philosophy. 👍
If you order a MEC you won't have to mess with a ridiculous sizing ring.
You can get 10 reloads out of those hulls, and people know it, that is why they cost 10 cents a piece to buy once fired hulls.
Good to know! These should have lots of life left🇺🇲👍
@@DummyRound The MG42 wad will work in those hulls but you HAVE to use Mica wad slick when seating them.
Awesome, thanks
Are you going to powder coat your 12g castings
That's the plan. I need to get the HF drum tumbler to get the buckshot perfectly rounded out after casting and cutting them apart. That's all after I get around to casting some up! Any tips or recommendations? Thanks 👍🇺🇸👊
Ha no, no tips available was hoping to get those tips from you LOL 😁😁
It might be a little while but I'll bring you guys along the way for each part of it
If it fits it ships
I'm shipping it!👍👊🇺🇸💥🔫
Good stiff
Thanks, brother! 🇺🇸👌👊
I have only loaded up a little over a hundred but the AA hulls loaded up nicely. I never realized there were so many styles.
Fortunecookie45lc has great videos on shotguns. You might like his videos
So many styles! Just have to watch for tapered vs straight and your wad is good... for the most part. I've been watching FC45, BRO, Shotgun Scientists, and whoever else is uploading shot shell reloading videos. Great stuff!
@@DummyRoundWatching the same videos & now yours as well.
I appreciate it👍🤠🇺🇲