I belive people underestimate what's going on behind closed doors. People have many faces what you see at work or in the shops etc just the surface. People show what they want others to see hardly the true self.
Coercive control is worse form of abuse. It takes your identity and soul away, you not longer remain the same person. At times you feel dead inside. And you will never know if you not experienced it.
If the husband had been alive to legally defend himself, no doubt there would have been more coercive control during the legal proceedings. The abusive behavior doesn't stop on reporting, but can escalate and take other forms: stalking, lying, and stealing, etc. This type of person will continue to confabulate, intimidate, and deflect blame ruthlessly and relentlessly in court. Thankfully, her sons came forward to report incidents that supported her testimony. Many mean people manipulate and use children as pawns while smearing the whistleblower, alienating children from the other parent. People of viscous intent can and do create documents, have the judge sign, pressure the plaintiff into conceding while the plaintiff's attorney and judge don't fully know that underhanded tactics are subtly being deployed by the abuser defendent. The legal system in the U.S. must wake up to see the projections from the abuser towards the target(s) and believe the person reporting the abuse(s). The system dismisses/doesn't acknowledge and this must change to prevent re-victimization and protect innocent individuals, before murder occurs. It's imperative that everyone is aware of the insidious nature of cruel people, their guises, and the damage they mete out to punish - all of which it seems to affect lives and livelihood of mostly woman and children. INSIST on REAL JUSTICE. ⚖️
First hand witness to that. Just about everything you said. The system seems to enable the abuser. Not enough done to protect victims and their children. Children are used a pawns . System mulipulated. Drag on for years. Mental torture. It's to much. The abuse doesn't stop when you come out of the relationship. Go no contact etc. It doesn't stop. The court has to hold these people accountable. We are counting on them. What is the alternative? A woman like this one snaps. Courts , solicitors , cops need serious reboost in education on this. Its very hard on the victim cos how can a victim of any abuse heal if abuse is still going on? How can any open wond heal if someone keeps cutting it open? It doesn't, it cant. The wond will get infected and leave serious scars, deformed even. This is serious stuff. Mental torture is no picnic. Courts need to know the tools on how to depict and act accordingly to this type of abuse. And act fast!
This is one of the best summaries of what abusers do and how far the damage goes. The worst part of it all is how if affects and destroys children who are used as pawns. It's difficult to fathom how human beings can be so vile, poisonous, and viciously damaging.
@@joanofarcxxi Absolutely, I totally agree with you. When a women walks away from an abusive marriage, it is never the end. If there are children involved, minors and even adults, he will often claim parental alienation as his next tactic. For some reason our court system, in the UK too, actually jumps at this and many children have been put int the hands of a very abusive father. A recent BBC documentary - Mums on the Run - Failed by the Family Courts, shows how some mums have fled the UK because their children were handed to abusive partners by England and Wales' family court. They 'abducted' them and fled to Turkish-controlled northern Cyprus. As it is not recognised internationally as a state, they cannot be extradited from there, so it is a safe haven.
Domestic violence abusers are society's most dangerous criminals. They aren't just a danger to their spouse, partner or family. They are a danger to everyone.
Women need to learn how to recognize narcissism in men and how to avoid them. I was married to a narcissist for 21 years. He left me for his next victim. They didn't stay married. I'm sure he treated her like he did me. But, she freed me. And entrapped herself with a narcissist lier. She had no idea what she got herself into. And I wasn't going to warn her because he had control over her with his lies. Like he did me. And I needed to be free. She deserved him , because she chased after him. Thank goodness..
No question that long term CC, belittling, scapegoating, controlling, neglect, manipulation and infidelity causes personality change resulting from years of depression and stress. This ultimately leads to adaptation and self - defence mechanisms . In Sally's case she still loved him so the infidelity had an extreme impact upon her psychological state and stability. I hope she has found peace and happiness now. Most women in CC relationships never divulge, would not be believed never mind escape.
No question. I wish they would give the diagnosis an official name. I've seen narcissistic abuse victim syndrome and it's verbatim what my symptoms were.
@@endthefed1448 No one is an angel. Unless you've been on the receiving end of years of abuse it's nigh on impossible to have anything other than the response written here.
Hold on a second. Why is this under “Women’s law” and why doesn’t it apply to men? Why do police ignore the fact controlling behaviour can apply to both sexes?
This is largely a women's and childhood abuse survivor's issue, generally. Women and people who have suffered prior trauma are more likely to get into abusive relationships than non-traumatised people. But still, that's not a mandate for this to be described as a women's only issue. I live in a household of three males cowed and intimidated by one woman. I'm unsure of how to move forward.
MrCool Mug well, I’m a male who was sexually abused by a female for a year and a half, I couldn’t talk to anyone about it as I was too afraid and my abuser is still at large, there’s no laws with me in mind, I also have Asperger’s Syndrome and anxiety, yet my government cut off support for mental health, so where’s the justice in that? Shall I label myself a female in order to receive help? Because I’ve lived my life just accepting whatever comes, but you know when you’ve been through that kind of abuse and have been in abused in relationships by several women, then a law like this comes into play, it’s not fair, I’m by no means sexist, I’m just telling you it’s not fair.
Sound of silence is such a pleasure 🤣 but seriously, i would advise against defending yourself, over explaining why you did or didn't do something. Just keep your answers short and simple. And do not start a conversation coz we already know nothing gets resolved with these abusers.... Only more gaslighting will happen
What she did was horrible but don't underestimate the effect a narcissist has on it's victim. When someone tells you you're a narcissist, you made want to kept that demon to yourself before someone slays you with a hammer 15 times 😶
Had alot worse done to me.thank GOD im now single and free from two despicable and adulterous husbands, yes twice divorced, my inadequacy to choose correctly could possibly of stemmed from childhood abuse done to me by family since early childhood! ?
@Brendan McGlinchey Or maybe the husbands were despicable and adulterous, cause these guys do exist as well. This is something I cannot know from one comment alone. She said she made bad choices in partners, which may be the cause of her ending up in those situations. At least she attempts to track the cause of her (supposed) bad choices, which is much better than blaming it on others and removing any type of responsibility. It's her responsibility to see how her choices and actions influenced or resulted in those situations and how she can improve her current situation. If she was a victim of child abuse, it is also her responsibility to get the trauma treated. I know many women who are controlling, but you're just making an assumption.
Some of these comments are wild and I think that’s why coercive control is so dangerous because of the insidious nature of the abuse and how it chips away at a person. People can judge but until they experience it they will never understand the manipulation control and confusion this type of abuse brings… and no it’s not so simple to just walk away. That’s very easy to blame the victim. Black eyes and broken bones are easy to spot other forms of abuse are not don’t judge.
Your defending a killer. You suport Demostic Violence against males. . Look her story . He was controlling her isolating her but she had contact with her family adult son on her side and she was getting a divorce . And it was an argument. She killed him. What men killer their wife's in bottled up angry They had Violence in past and listen their wife's fir years
God bless you, Sally. You are a beautiful and brave woman, and who did not deserve what you lived through. May you and your Family find the happiness and peace you deserve 🙏
Was going to say she overreacted but then I heard about some of the things he did; truly terrible and such a waste of her life. The law did serve justice in punishing unlawful killing but he did wrong her and others
Her husband obviously had NPD. We need to help everyone see this pattern. As for all these comments "what about-ism...?" is a typical narcissist tactic!
Speak ill of the dead? What!? That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard especially when it provides context in a situation. That is very pertinent information that gives historical information to explain a person’s behavior. Being dead doesn’t mean you are suddenly a saint. How stupid.
…in August 2010, Sally Challen left her house in…Surrey. She had bought the house less than a year earlier, her first step away from a 31-year marriage. That morning, she returned to 1 Ruxley Ridge, just around the corner, her former marital home. …Sally, 56, and her husband Richard, 61, were planning to reconcile. They were about to begin clearing the family house so they could put it on the market. The…home was valued at about £1m, and with this they intended to take an extended trip to Australia…before deciding where to live next. But first Richard wanted bacon and eggs for breakfast, so Sally went out to buy some. When she returned…suspicious, as if Richard had got rid of her for a reason. A quick check of his phone confirmed he’d just had a call from a number Sally knew belonged to Susan Wilce - a woman Richard had met through the networking site Dinner Dates…she asked Richard to explain the call. He replied: “Don’t question me.” …as Richard ate, she took a hammer and hit him more than 20 times. In case he was still breathing, she stuffed a tea towel into his mouth, before wrapping him in some old curtains. She wrote a note that said “I love you, Sally” and placed it on Richard’s body. Then she washed the dishes and drove back to the home she shared with their son, David. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/29/devoted-wife-who-killed-husband-with-hammer-sally-challen? Does this sound like a victim or just the actions of a murderer. If a man had done this he would still be in jail.
No...abusers drive a person to madness and you suddenly snap,years and years of build up of abuse till it finally comes to a head.humans can only take so much before they pop
Bless her, she clearly just snapped after years of being controlled and gaslighted. I think the criminal justice system needs to work more closely with psychotherapy and neuro-psychology research. Complex ptsd is insidious and it can lead to psychosis and total mental breakdowns
I was in a very coercive and times violent marriage for 20 years. I suffered from depression and took tablets for years. I eventually found the strength to walk out of our beautiful home into the wilderness. Divorced my husband I could never in a million bring a hammer in my bag and hit him over the head until he was dead.
I think you hit the nail on the head (no pun intended). There's no denying her abuse and that he seemed to be a complete arsehole, but to cave his skull in with a hammer is an extreme reaction. Find the strength to walk away from the situation, don't murder him. The verdict seems to be politically motivated.
Yes, reading it I’m wondering why she had the hammer in her bag. So I think maybe self-defence in case he attacks her, if he’s been violent in the past. But then I think that hitting him 18 times with a hammer while he was eating breakfast isn’t self-defence. Did she want the house?
@@oldskoolmacboy it’s an extreme reaction to years of narcissistic abuse. if you’ve never been through what she and i have been through, you have no right to judge.
@@dreamlessdemand She beat him to death with a hammer, a hammer she carried with her. I have a male friend who is in a similar situation, his wife has had multiple affairs, developed a drink problem, lies all the time, gaslights him to the point he thinks he's going insane. He caught her downstairs naked on top of one of his neighbours, her excuse was she was so drunk she thought it was him. He's so messed up he believes her. She's even been looking at houses with her boss so she can move in with him and her kids. Is he justified in murdering her with a hammer? No, he should leave. I'm guessing you didn't murder you ex?
🎀I think that women especially those with children in DV relationships are treated so badly. Like they are to blame for the situation. I wish women got more support.🎀
The recent bbc interview with her was astonishing. Shows the complete lack of understanding of cohersive control. I am profoundly proud and patriotic of the bbc but not this one occasion felt extremely angry, disappointed and let down. #Geteducated What?!?!?!? He took part in trafficking, on either side is taking part. He planned every evil act word in his heart. She just lost it after years of abuse. Obviously not saying it’s ok-but what he did was far far far worse. It’s all about the intentions of the heart. Clearly her mind had just gone beyond an unimaginable threshold. Thank you Channel 4. He kept her prisoner for years while he just roamed around abusing people for his lustful and evil gains. And people wonder why I HATE men. I'm sorry but if there were no men-there would be no prostitution and no trafficking. True though isn't it
These are the tricks a lot of men feeling inferior use it to demolish a woman completely ! This lady has suffered beyond any limits as she felt dependent on him , safer in her own house which she made into a home. She had children there kept the home sane for children single handedly Must speak up and to many of their friends so that public insult may be looked down at by them . She should not have spent a moment in jail for trying to survive whatever was left of her after destruction of her soul by the despicable low life man . She tolerated far too much .🙏May she and her children be happy together . As children of such family are scarred 🙏
Very brave of her to speak out. Her husband was a horrible man. He didn’t deserve to get his head bashed in but he pushed her to the limit and brought about his own demise
I accept coercive control is a real thing that leads to a breaking point. If you push someone to their limits for years you have to accept some responsibility for the consequences. It just doesn’t sit well with me that this wouldn’t work the other way round. If a man bludgeoned his wife to death with a hammer when she tried to leave him and claimed it was because she belittled his masculinity and self-esteem throughout their marriage, it just wouldn’t wash. If he said his wife had raped him, cheated on him and there had been a few occasions of violence I still think people would call him a monster.
In Spain, if a woman hits a man, it’s a misdemeanour, but if the man hits the partner back, he is convicted of serious crime, and his life is destroyed (unless you become a transsexual, then your treated as a woman, and it’s a misdemeanour, and you have the right if innocence until proven guilty.
Domestic violence towards women is so integrated into the fabric of so many societies that the "punishment" for a woman breaking out and fighting for her rights which have been so denied--as assault, rape and daily abuse is "supposed" to be tolerated and if a woman kills her abuser that is deemed an absolute murder but it is absolute self-defense (in many cases). In the US, one of the US Capital insurrectionists just was handed an 8-month sentence for breaking into the capital. Another black male was handed a 20-year sentence for having voted a few months before his prison probation status would have been terminated. The injustice against the victims of men, especially white males, remains as a force of systematic racism embedded into so many of the dominant cultures on the planet.
This has nothing to do with racism. But I see your point. White males seem to feel a great sense of entitlement over everyone and everything. But the gretest victims of all time, regardless of ethnicity, have always been women and children. And they still are.
Reverse the genders and ask yourself if a man convicted of killing his wife with a hammer, would ever have a claim of coercive control taken seriously.
yeah, if it's provable. Murder, down to manslaughter... Men do get lesser time with "diminished responsibility" too. If the 'coercive control' created 'diminished responsibility', then yeah. Killed wife: 11 years. Killed again: out in 4 years. Killed again:26 years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Johnson_(serial_killer) lighthousewa.org.uk/freed-to-kill-again-and-again-theodore-johnson-and-the-truth-about-domestic-violence/ Old man killed wife with metal bar: www.thesun.co.uk/news/7804597/husband-battered-wife-death-iron-bar-freed/
If that was THE TRUTH then yes because didn't you see the story on Good Morning of the guy who left his girlfriend eventually-and she was clearly abusive. Times are changing.
I'm disgusted by Cathy Newman's interview and her treatment of this convicted killer and I've commented elsewhere here with my views, but I do remember a case in England where a man very calculatedly killed his wife - he planned it methodically and then attempted to cover his tracks but he was convicted of manslaughter but only and got three years. Mitigating circumstances were her controlling and bullying behaviour of many years. I disagree with the leniency of his sentence. It should have been longer.
you're the one against social justice, here. 'why are men becoming more stoic': a woman bashes a man's head in, claims 'emotional abuse' and she is the victim #maletears. keep shaming and dismissing serious concerns of men, that's great 'female empowerment'. completely delusional misandry and disrespect.
Coercive control is a very real thing, HOWEVER..... they had split as a couple and he had found someone else and moved on. During her police interview she said, and I quote verbatim: “If I couldn’t have him no one could.” Now if a man had taken a hammer to his ex wife’s skull and repeatedly brought it down until he’d murdered her and said those words during an interview he’d be in prison for life with a minimum tariff of 20 years or so as someone with jealousy issues of that nature is quite rightly a danger to any future partner. I know victims of serious domestic abuse, I know victims of insidious coercive control & while it can take a very long time for them to leave their abuser and years of therapy to rebuild their lives, their trust and their fragile sense of self worth they would never, EVER have committed a brutal act like this just because their abuser no longer wanted to be in a relationship with them. This is a serious travesty of the protections that woman are afforded when in the clutches of an abuser. I’m frankly disgusted that she is being flouted on TV as an abuse ‘survivor’. She is an abuser too but her victim is dead whilst she is praised for her bravery. It makes a mockery of all the victims out there both female and MALE and it is setting a rather dangerous precedent.
Absolutely! And yesterday a 32 year old woman was let off raping a 14 year old boy as she didn’t know his age. Something is going very wrong in society.
Sounds like he always pushed the blame onto her and enjoyed seeing her doubt herself as he manipulated her into thinking she really was 'mad' and incapable as a woman even though he cheated on her and belittled her all the time. Seems he was the mad one.
My husband used to say to my daughters “look at her, you can tell it’s rag week again. She bi polar!! Horrendous psychological abuse, the police are and other professionals such as social workers need more training.
Sagans Run @ that’s what I heard, she invited him around for dinner after she had wanted to leave him for years??? Then smashes him over the head with a hammer??? God knows
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These stories very disturbing, and very upsetting, this man was extremely cruel and Very violent This was absolutely terrible and Very difficult to watch I hope that all Women Survive terrible situations, of abuse, coerced controlling situations, and physical abuse and violent situations Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man tough... Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man strong... Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man cool... Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man a man.... Beating a woman is Not masculine Beating Women is NOT sexy Beating Women is NOT manly Using abuse, and force for sexual intimidation, by harmful behavior for sexual intimacy with someone doesn’t make a man, strong, cool, or, manly. I believe in the Safety and Well-being Women, Children, and Men WOMEN Have the RIGHT to FEEL SAFE and BE SAFE This is a reply post regarding a article on Assault Against Woman: For what is statistically true, or accurate, and even what is not included statistically, and all other crime such as this is what is ( violence against women) Always unacceptable... Women have the Right to Feel SAFE and be Safe... No woman..., or person....child...should ever have to experience this kind heinous personal intrusion in their lifetime, this seems to be occurring at least according to news reports more, and all to often. Actually this activity should be in a stage, or state of Reversal, and NOT Increasing, I am continually upset as well as greatly disturbed in hearing such stories, as I have always have been... My Heart Always... goes out to any person which have experienced any such similar experience of intrusion, attacks, and, or invasion of their personal well-being... due violence, and or violent behavior, I will continue Praying for the Safety and Well-Being of Others... Keep everyone SAFE PLEASE BE SAFE Your Life is important Advocate of Humanity, Author, Writer, Poet, Safety Advocate Jason Sandifer, Michigan MESSAGE REPOSTED 10/18/2021
I never ever feel safe. Two sociopathic men are dominating and controlling my life. I have severe PTSD and I fear sometimes that this is going to have a violent outcome. It's just terrifying.
@Reggie Cyde yes, but how can you assume your opinion is right, when you have no experiance of the situation? It's good that she spoke about it, as it may help others to not let their situations get to that stage. (it was a self defense fight for life)
@Reggie Cyde I havnt rewatched it. If she invited him round, then you are probably right, that it didn't need to happen. I believe in all those things. I also know that narcissists do hideous crimes everyday, and often get away with it due to their sociopathic/ manipulation abilities.
Words the smashing up of my things calls me names cut up a top I bought in charity shop calls me mental crazy he's slapped me choked now puts hand over mouth and pillow if I cry he gets more threatening
an issue with jurors is that they are the public, majority of the public don't understand how complicated Abuse is to legally identify and they only know the extremes of what to look for but coercive control is a subtle type of abuse used to completely ruin a persons self-esteem and is paired with other types of abuse for Sally Challen it was sexual, physical and financial. She was married to her husband for 30 years, that is 30+ years of abuse it's going to impact her mental health exponentially. People in the public can easily say 'why did she get out if she knew it was that bad', and there is no simple answer to that, could range from her being in love to her not having the money to leave, ect.
The education needs to begin in early years It must be emphasised by the experts in domestic abuse that it is never, never, ok to kill. If you do, there's no dignity in that. You can't walk away with your head up.Your own life is also ruined. We can educate people to understand controlling behaviour long before it escalates, and get help to get out if necessary
It’s only controlling behaviour when the woman wants separation. It’s all bullshit. So many men in Spain got destroyed by feminist courts the last few years. All of them innocent, and they are trying to introduce the same system here. Man is guilty until proven innocent in spain, and has zero chance. Anything could be abuse, in a relationship... but only if your a man, will you be convicted.
My ex was incredibly abusive towards me but if I murdered her with a hammer I would be in jail. Women are often incredibly abusive and another thing about these women is they always claim to be abused themselves as a cover and an excuse.
ABSOLUTE DISGRACE, PREMEDITATED MURDER. POOR BLOKE NEVER STOOD A CHANCE AND NOW HE HAS NOT GOT A VOICE BECAUSE SHE SMASHED HIS HEAD IN WITH A HAMMER, HE BEING BLAMED FOR HIS OWN MURDER. TRUTH WAS, HE WAS LEAVING HER FOR ANOTHER WOMAN SO SHE MURDERED HIM. LOOK AT THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND YOU WOULD AGREE.
You clearly missed the email he sent her saying they would try again, but with a letter of conditions. His sons even said he was awful to their mother. Think their opinions is more valid than yours
@@SarahSmith-ym9ri NOPE ,you’re just naive!! She found out he was leaving her for another woman, so she went and met him with a hammer in her handbag. Then when his back was turned she bludgeoned him to death, that’s premeditated murder! HE IS THE VICTIM NOT HER! You need to study the case a bit more instead of using your SEXIST VIEWS to determine who is to blame!
@@SURGE101 I bet your traits are identical to this evil guy Just unfortunate he had the poor woman so ill, that she ended up falling for it and destroying her own life.
@@camlatchford6182 can't think you would be talking about love and compassion if you saw this person doing what she did (unless you're a fanatic). I'm gobsmacked that someone who did this was interviewed purely as a victim.
@@Fredders88 dude, I don't know why you can't wrap your head around this. She was literally defending her life, this was self defense. She Was viciously abused for decades. Have you ever lived through abuse or domestic violence before?
@@camlatchford6182 It looks like you're not acquainted with the facts in this case. This isn't a person defending themselves against an attacker and killing them 'in the heat of the moment'. This is an someone killing their ex-partner in cold blood.
Good. 100%. I know how coercive controllers are.... I have been stalked by a group of them who are like cultic or something. Totally unreasonable. I don't know how she held herself back for so long.... I guess it's the push and pull of constantly being in a Resistance is Futile types of situation constantly and NEVER being able to distance yourself from it with healthy boundaries.
Thst just not true as wo men do not die each week in the UK so to say this happens equally amoung the sexes is simply not accurate. Woemn are much more lightly to be victims of domestic abuse than men although yes if course it does hapen to men but in no way as high numbers
It's so sad that no-one helps and I know for sure only from my perspective and experiences have I learnt that people are afraid they run rather than help. I understand because I know the pain not there pain but me I would run to but I can't so glad you can and I say this without Malice as you are in a better place than me take care as you care for those who love you but what about the ones that haven't learnt to love amen to that
She had wrote a letter saying she loved him and wanted to try again. He replied he would if she complied with his conditions. She agreed to conditions which were 'continue the divorce process and only take 200k settlement, to stop talking to people when they go out, to stop smoking, to not interrupt him when he is talking' she loved him so she agreed in the hopes they would work out their marriage, however after she agreed to his demands, he said he would only see her one day a week so he could see if she had changed. Actually watch more than an 8minute video before making judgements on what you have not taken the time on.
rather than kill the man, why not just leave. I mean it takes more courage to kill someone than to just walk away from them I suppose. Men are always advised to remove themselves from abusive women rather than react back but women are always excused for reacting abusively.
So a women can legally kill a guy and her get out of jail card is 'he abused me' and everyone blindly believes her. Men should be more careful these days. This can happen to any of us men.
Yes it's scary world for men, be sigma male and never make women the priority in life. Walkaway anytime and enjoy life with your other priorities in life.
The son’s testified that he’d abused her. I saw footage of a family holiday when he was openly bullying his wife and flirting with other women in front of hef
I note here that shes STILL wearing a necklace pointed out by her ex colleague ib the BBC documentary. It qas shoen there her wirkmate noticed there was 2 pieces of jewellety she wore all the time - this and a heavy bracelet he bought her. Then one day she didnt wear the necklace and when her workmate commented on this, Sally told her he took it away, saying she didnt deserve it. So why is she still wearing this reminder of the scumbag? Irs ckear she hasnt let him go fully, because if she had she would nkwxtakr that jewellery etc and throw them in the nearest lake or into the sea. And ket the past go, and let him rest in peace now, wherever he may be.
She is a murderer it was not manslaughter. There was coersive behaviour on both sides. In the BBC documentary she said if she couldn’t have him no one could. She has a personality disorder and watching the behaviour of her son David he also has mental issues. ‘Speak to someone’ what a load of tosh no matter what anyone said she was obsessed with her husband. She should be sent back to jail and complete her sentence.
The parents that tortured and murdered the little 5 year old boy got 7, and 8 years (one got 7, one 8) She killed a monster, regrets it, and did not plan it. How about we fight to put abusers and people that torture vulnerable people in jail?
Hacking is coercion it is breaking the law. ⚖️ you stay the feck away from me , I’m staying the feck away from you. I have no wish to be anywhere near you.
It’s insidious and the statistics are high sometimes I think why risk it and get in a relationship with anyone so many humans really are horrible natured beasts
@@NxDoyle They were not living together, she invited him over and had a hammer on her. She unexpectedly hit him with the hammer 20 times without him doing anything physicial. She subsequently stuffed his mouth and proceeded to wash the dishes. This is some of the context surrounding her killing her husband. Why would she have a hammer with her if she didn't consider the possibility of using it? Why did she invite him to her home if all she really did was kill him? If you want to include the context of abuse, it is based on her words. The person who supposedly abused her cannot even use words anymore because she killed him. As far as I'm concerned, you're acting like the simpleton.
@nero zero - That's preposterous! Over 20 hammer hits to the back of the head whilst they were already seperated and after she had gone to his house is certainly not the same as that!
this may really crazy to even exrpress. but do you maybe "think" such "set up with tool" and "don't question me" may have been a way to see what you would do in that "situation"?..youtube, please delete if in violation of any threat rules. thank you !
I feel so sorry for this lady, whilst i do not condone her killing him i just think mentally she snapped after years of abuse. Coercive control is just as bad if not worse than physical abuse at times. It wears you down and is dehumanising to the point where you question everything you do. People that use coercive control are evil. It takes years to try and get mentally well again she will most certainly have PTSD 😢
Yes, it was a very strange interview - normally a convicted killer like her would have a challenging interview. For one thing none of the interviewees' allegations for e.g. that she was raped by here ex-husband were qualified by the interviewer. i was trying to think of this happening before and all I could think of was when the actor and broadcaster Danny Dyer interviewed Loyalist murderers and he was joshing and laughing with them.
Jesus since when u can kill an unfaithful husband ,who u no longer even lived with, with a hammer and then not only be proven innocent but also become a celebrity and a hero?? Why did she stopped the divorce she initiated, why did she not just cut all the contacts with him if he was That bad?? How is this ok?
Do you know anything about emotional and psychogical abuse effects on the brain at all? Cause it sounds like you don't. You obviously can't make decisions from a healthy, logical, rational standpoint because there are literal CHEMICAL CHANGES IN THE BRAIN caused by abuse! So stop judging her decisions re marriage/divorce if you didn't experience this yourself. So sick of these comments
Bex Cusens 1) what you are describing is bullshit and has no scientific basis 2) Ok. Let’s say u are right. So she couldn’t control herself? And we can’t hold her responsible for her actions? That’s called insanity. And if that’s the case she is clearly dangerous to the public and should be locked up in the asylum, not giving interviews on TV. I don’t know what uve got for a brain, but do not try to use it for arguments like these woman, it’s not working...
When you start thinking if the other person was dead or if you were dead you will have "freedom" means you have gotten to a really bad place and you need help
@@amberwalters9613 If they abused but continue abusing their wives it means the Holy Spirit hasn't truly entered them yet. Wonder why they are still in church? Jesus did explain in one bible verse that not all people who said and claimed "Lord, Lord" will enter the gates of Heaven. Maybe their hearts were unpure, they hadn't truly received Christ, continued to sin wothout remorse? Only our precious Father will judge in the end. What I do know os that as long as their alive with time, they CAN change.
Exactly, her husband was a cheating sociopath, but she is a psychopath who should have served more time in prison. He should have been tried by the law, not murdered in cold blood by a hammer because of her jealousy of infidelity.
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IF you've not EXPERIENCED being subjected to this horrendous form of sustained psychological abuse ... Don't be so quick to judge.
It's the being beaten constantly without bruises.
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She killed....
I'm happy to judge someone whom I know chose to bring a hammer with them & used it repeatedly, not in self-defence.
I have experienced this form of abuse. Unfortunately it can't be reported to the police. But it's still abuse regardless.
I belive people underestimate what's going on behind closed doors. People have many faces what you see at work or in the shops etc just the surface. People show what they want others to see hardly the true self.
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He drove her to it.
Good for her.
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@@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010 He sexually assaulted... again and again and again...
Bravo! "The Cult..." has nothing of value to add since he lacks reasoning skills and empathy.
Basically she took the law into her own hands because no one would/could help her
Coercive control is worse form of abuse. It takes your identity and soul away, you not longer remain the same person. At times you feel dead inside. And you will never know if you not experienced it.
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If the husband had been alive to legally defend himself, no doubt there would have been more coercive control during the legal proceedings. The abusive behavior doesn't stop on reporting, but can escalate and take other forms: stalking, lying, and stealing, etc. This type of person will continue to confabulate, intimidate, and deflect blame ruthlessly and relentlessly in court. Thankfully, her sons came forward to report incidents that supported her testimony. Many mean people manipulate and use children as pawns while smearing the whistleblower, alienating children from the other parent. People of viscous intent can and do create documents, have the judge sign, pressure the plaintiff into conceding while the plaintiff's attorney and judge don't fully know that underhanded tactics are subtly being deployed by the abuser defendent. The legal system in the U.S. must wake up to see the projections from the abuser towards the target(s) and believe the person reporting the abuse(s). The system dismisses/doesn't acknowledge and this must change to prevent re-victimization and protect innocent individuals, before murder occurs. It's imperative that everyone is aware of the insidious nature of cruel people, their guises, and the damage they mete out to punish - all of which it seems to affect lives and livelihood of mostly woman and children. INSIST on REAL JUSTICE. ⚖️
First hand witness to that. Just about everything you said. The system seems to enable the abuser. Not enough done to protect victims and their children. Children are used a pawns . System mulipulated. Drag on for years. Mental torture. It's to much. The abuse doesn't stop when you come out of the relationship. Go no contact etc. It doesn't stop. The court has to hold these people accountable. We are counting on them. What is the alternative? A woman like this one snaps. Courts , solicitors , cops need serious reboost in education on this. Its very hard on the victim cos how can a victim of any abuse heal if abuse is still going on? How can any open wond heal if someone keeps cutting it open? It doesn't, it cant. The wond will get infected and leave serious scars, deformed even. This is serious stuff. Mental torture is no picnic. Courts need to know the tools on how to depict and act accordingly to this type of abuse. And act fast!
What an amazing mind reading skills you have! What utter nonsense.
This is one of the best summaries of what abusers do and how far the damage goes. The worst part of it all is how if affects and destroys children who are used as pawns. It's difficult to fathom how human beings can be so vile, poisonous, and viciously damaging.
@@joanofarcxxi Absolutely, I totally agree with you. When a women walks away from an abusive marriage, it is never the end. If there are children involved, minors and even adults, he will often claim parental alienation as his next tactic. For some reason our court system, in the UK too, actually jumps at this and many children have been put int the hands of a very abusive father. A recent BBC documentary - Mums on the Run - Failed by the Family Courts, shows how some mums have fled the UK because their children were handed to abusive partners by England and Wales' family court. They 'abducted' them and fled to Turkish-controlled northern Cyprus. As it is not recognised internationally as a state, they cannot be extradited from there, so it is a safe haven.
@@DrStephenTeebet you're not a doctor.
Domestic violence abusers are society's most dangerous criminals. They aren't just a danger to their spouse, partner or family. They are a danger to everyone.
Women need to learn how to recognize narcissism in men and how to avoid them.
I was married to a narcissist for 21 years. He left me for his next victim. They didn't stay married. I'm sure he treated her like he did me. But, she freed me. And entrapped herself with a narcissist lier. She had no idea what she got herself into. And I wasn't going to warn her because he had control over her with his lies. Like he did me.
And I needed to be free. She deserved him , because she chased after him. Thank goodness..
She deserved to be with an abuser because she chased after him? So you deserved it too seeing as you were with him for 21 years?
@?,?, What difference does that make you moron!? Clearly you have no understanding of the complexities of abuse.
@@leightoncarter3556 well, you certainly understand abuse. You've just abused that person, with your insulting comment.
and men need to recognise Narcissism in women.
i needed this
Wish my mother had left my father years ago !
That is ALWAYS an option,it’s not Medieval times. Walk don’t Kill
She killed....
How long has your mother been with your father? Has she tried to leave before
Tell her to hit your father with a hammer, or maybe you do it, yourself 🔨.
Me too!
No question that long term CC, belittling, scapegoating, controlling, neglect, manipulation and infidelity causes personality change resulting from years of depression and stress. This ultimately leads to adaptation and self - defence mechanisms . In Sally's case she still loved him so the infidelity had an extreme impact upon her psychological state and stability. I hope she has found peace and happiness now.
Most women in CC relationships never divulge, would not be believed never mind escape.
Ohh, you women are so sweet angels (NOT)! She is a murderer! Should be sent back to jail.
No question. I wish they would give the diagnosis an official name. I've seen narcissistic abuse victim syndrome and it's verbatim what my symptoms were.
@@endthefed1448 No one is an angel. Unless you've been on the receiving end of years of abuse it's nigh on impossible to have anything other than the response written here.
Yes, suffering all that & then not being believed. Huge problem for survivors of CC.
@End The Fed no one said any of that, take your gaslighting elsewhere
Hold on a second. Why is this under “Women’s law” and why doesn’t it apply to men? Why do police ignore the fact controlling behaviour can apply to both sexes?
This is largely a women's and childhood abuse survivor's issue, generally. Women and people who have suffered prior trauma are more likely to get into abusive relationships than non-traumatised people. But still, that's not a mandate for this to be described as a women's only issue. I live in a household of three males cowed and intimidated by one woman. I'm unsure of how to move forward.
MrCool Mug well, I’m a male who was sexually abused by a female for a year and a half, I couldn’t talk to anyone about it as I was too afraid and my abuser is still at large, there’s no laws with me in mind, I also have Asperger’s Syndrome and anxiety, yet my government cut off support for mental health, so where’s the justice in that? Shall I label myself a female in order to receive help? Because I’ve lived my life just accepting whatever comes, but you know when you’ve been through that kind of abuse and have been in abused in relationships by several women, then a law like this comes into play, it’s not fair, I’m by no means sexist, I’m just telling you it’s not fair.
Neil Booth glad I’m not alone
Neil Booth Universal Credits and PIP, lying about their mental health and getting away with everything.
A woman in the UK have been charged with coercive control.
What about non physical abuse. i.e. long silence, angry all the time, massively critical of you, always putting you down
That’s still classified as domestic abuse
Sound of silence is such a pleasure 🤣 but seriously, i would advise against defending yourself, over explaining why you did or didn't do something. Just keep your answers short and simple. And do not start a conversation coz we already know nothing gets resolved with these abusers.... Only more gaslighting will happen
🎀Emotional abuse.🎀
@@sj-sbI preferred the rows to the silences as a daughter putting up with bad behaviour from my parents.
This is emotional and psychological abuse. Please reach out for help. Call domestic abuse helpline.
What she did was horrible but don't underestimate the effect a narcissist has on it's victim. When someone tells you you're a narcissist, you made want to kept that demon to yourself before someone slays you with a hammer 15 times 😶
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She chose to marry the man whom she knew for certain was cheating on her. She chose to bring a hammer when she met him for the last time.
Listen "The Cult of....." we do not need a troll commenting. You are adding zero value to the conversation and come açcross as a bully. Back off!
Understand abuse it will open your eyes kindly I say this do your homework.
Exactly. Maybe narcissistic people should think about that before they terrorize,stalk , relentlessly harrass a person.
She probably has PTSD, reason for murder no. But there needs to be help for people in domestic abuse situations. My mother is extremely coercive.
There is no excuse for murder unless youre literally being held to gunpoint and have no other option
@Leetravius Mckay 2.0 that's not the only reason, that goes for any self defense regardless if there's a gun or not.
Had alot worse done to me.thank GOD im now single and free from two despicable and adulterous husbands, yes twice divorced, my inadequacy to choose correctly could possibly of stemmed from childhood abuse done to me by family since early childhood! ?
Better than murdering someone eh!
Women, ALWAYS are professional victims.
@Brendan McGlinchey
Or maybe the husbands were despicable and adulterous, cause these guys do exist as well. This is something I cannot know from one comment alone. She said she made bad choices in partners, which may be the cause of her ending up in those situations. At least she attempts to track the cause of her (supposed) bad choices, which is much better than blaming it on others and removing any type of responsibility. It's her responsibility to see how her choices and actions influenced or resulted in those situations and how she can improve her current situation. If she was a victim of child abuse, it is also her responsibility to get the trauma treated. I know many women who are controlling, but you're just making an assumption.
Sounds like she snapped 🔨 She was not fearful or fighting for her life. He was an asshole and she had it. She would never get time off in the US.
Some of these comments are wild and I think that’s why coercive control is so dangerous because of the insidious nature of the abuse and how it chips away at a person. People can judge but until they experience it they will never understand the manipulation control and confusion this type of abuse brings… and no it’s not so simple to just walk away. That’s very easy to blame the victim. Black eyes and broken bones are easy to spot other forms of abuse are not don’t judge.
Utter respect for Sally.
Your defending a killer. You suport Demostic Violence against males. . Look her story . He was controlling her isolating her but she had contact with her family adult son on her side and she was getting a divorce . And it was an argument. She killed him. What men killer their wife's in bottled up angry They had Violence in past and listen their wife's fir years
Respect for a hammer killer?!
God bless you, Sally. You are a beautiful and brave woman, and who did not deserve what you lived through. May you and your Family find the happiness and peace you deserve 🙏
Was going to say she overreacted but then I heard about some of the things he did; truly terrible and such a waste of her life. The law did serve justice in punishing unlawful killing but he did wrong her and others
THANK YOU CrunchyNorbert
Murder is always an overreaction.
@?,?, That's why they said courts don't like speaking ill of the deceased, no defence!
He deserves all he got!
sutchristine oh boo hoo
Her husband obviously had NPD. We need to help everyone see this pattern.
As for all these comments "what about-ism...?" is a typical narcissist tactic!
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You did the right thing, lady! These monsters suffer from brain damages that cannot be healed.
Sadly, most people don't understand Coercive Control. Victims are not believed and become totally isolated.
Speak ill of the dead? What!? That’s the silliest thing I’ve ever heard especially when it provides context in a situation. That is very pertinent information that gives historical information to explain a person’s behavior.
Being dead doesn’t mean you are suddenly a saint. How stupid.
Woman of my own heart ❤❤❤
You did a great job
…in August 2010, Sally Challen left her house in…Surrey. She had bought the house less than a year earlier, her first step away from a 31-year marriage. That morning, she returned to 1 Ruxley Ridge, just around the corner, her former marital home.
…Sally, 56, and her husband Richard, 61, were planning to reconcile. They were about to begin clearing the family house so they could put it on the market. The…home was valued at about £1m, and with this they intended to take an extended trip to Australia…before deciding where to live next.
But first Richard wanted bacon and eggs for breakfast, so Sally went out to buy some. When she returned…suspicious, as if Richard had got rid of her for a reason. A quick check of his phone confirmed he’d just had a call from a number Sally knew belonged to Susan Wilce - a woman Richard had met through the networking site Dinner Dates…she asked Richard to explain the call. He replied: “Don’t question me.”
…as Richard ate, she took a hammer and hit him more than 20 times. In case he was still breathing, she stuffed a tea towel into his mouth, before wrapping him in some old curtains. She wrote a note that said “I love you, Sally” and placed it on Richard’s body. Then she washed the dishes and drove back to the home she shared with their son, David. www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/sep/29/devoted-wife-who-killed-husband-with-hammer-sally-challen? Does this sound like a victim or just the actions of a murderer. If a man had done this he would still be in jail.
No...abusers drive a person to madness and you suddenly snap,years and years of build up of abuse till it finally comes to a head.humans can only take so much before they pop
sky scan Thing is though why did she have the hammer in her bag?
she will do it again
@@nopretribrapture2318 That excuse never works for men.
Also, she knew for certain before they married that he was cheating on her.
5:15 What? Her lawyers were clearly dumb in telling her that.
Bless her, she clearly just snapped after years of being controlled and gaslighted. I think the criminal justice system needs to work more closely with psychotherapy and neuro-psychology research. Complex ptsd is insidious and it can lead to psychosis and total mental breakdowns
I was in a very coercive and times violent marriage for 20 years. I suffered from depression and took tablets for years. I eventually found the strength to walk out of our beautiful home into the wilderness. Divorced my husband I could never in a million bring a hammer in my bag and hit him over the head until he was dead.
I think you hit the nail on the head (no pun intended). There's no denying her abuse and that he seemed to be a complete arsehole, but to cave his skull in with a hammer is an extreme reaction. Find the strength to walk away from the situation, don't murder him. The verdict seems to be politically motivated.
Yes, reading it I’m wondering why she had the hammer in her bag. So I think maybe self-defence in case he attacks her, if he’s been violent in the past. But then I think that hitting him 18 times with a hammer while he was eating breakfast isn’t self-defence. Did she want the house?
@@oldskoolmacboy it’s an extreme reaction to years of narcissistic abuse. if you’ve never been through what she and i have been through, you have no right to judge.
@@dreamlessdemand She beat him to death with a hammer, a hammer she carried with her. I have a male friend who is in a similar situation, his wife has had multiple affairs, developed a drink problem, lies all the time, gaslights him to the point he thinks he's going insane. He caught her downstairs naked on top of one of his neighbours, her excuse was she was so drunk she thought it was him. He's so messed up he believes her. She's even been looking at houses with her boss so she can move in with him and her kids. Is he justified in murdering her with a hammer? No, he should leave. I'm guessing you didn't murder you ex?
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🎀I think that women especially those with children in DV relationships are treated so badly. Like they are to blame for the situation. I wish women got more support.🎀
The recent bbc interview with her was astonishing. Shows the complete lack of understanding of cohersive control. I am profoundly proud and patriotic of the bbc but not this one occasion felt extremely angry, disappointed and let down. #Geteducated What?!?!?!? He took part in trafficking, on either side is taking part. He planned every evil act word in his heart. She just lost it after years of abuse. Obviously not saying it’s ok-but what he did was far far far worse. It’s all about the intentions of the heart. Clearly her mind had just gone beyond an unimaginable threshold. Thank you Channel 4. He kept her prisoner for years while he just roamed around abusing people for his lustful and evil gains. And people wonder why I HATE men. I'm sorry but if there were no men-there would be no prostitution and no trafficking. True though isn't it
Know EXACTLY what this lady has gone through, was in an ABUSIVE marriage for 28yrs, it's HORRIFIC what they put you through.
These are the tricks a lot of men feeling inferior use it to demolish a woman completely ! This lady has suffered beyond any limits as she felt dependent on him , safer in her own house which she made into a home. She had children there kept the home sane for children single handedly Must speak up and to many of their friends so that public insult may be looked down at by them . She should not have spent a moment in jail for trying to survive whatever was left of her after destruction of her soul by the despicable low life man . She tolerated far too much .🙏May she and her children be happy together . As children of such family are scarred 🙏
Very brave of her to speak out. Her husband was a horrible man. He didn’t deserve to get his head bashed in but he pushed her to the limit and brought about his own demise
No, they were already seperated and she went to his house armed with a hammer.
Is it a crime to cheat? If it was a man, would there be an excuse.
@@carlhash6540 I saw footage she took on holiday of them both. He was an abusive controller who dehumanised her for years
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I accept coercive control is a real thing that leads to a breaking point. If you push someone to their limits for years you have to accept some responsibility for the consequences. It just doesn’t sit well with me that this wouldn’t work the other way round. If a man bludgeoned his wife to death with a hammer when she tried to leave him and claimed it was because she belittled his masculinity and self-esteem throughout their marriage, it just wouldn’t wash. If he said his wife had raped him, cheated on him and there had been a few occasions of violence I still think people would call him a monster.
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He is dead.
The other way round, no-one would support Richard but his defence lawyers.
@@davidz2562 well this case isn't about richard that's for another time ok?
In Spain, if a woman hits a man, it’s a misdemeanour, but if the man hits the partner back, he is convicted of serious crime, and his life is destroyed (unless you become a transsexual, then your treated as a woman, and it’s a misdemeanour, and you have the right if innocence until proven guilty.
I wonder if a man who killed his wife under similar circumstances would ever get a TV spot?
I don't know, what do you think?
@@hansiesma16 I think it's about as likely as Jeremy Corbyn joining the Conservative Party.
@@BarefootBeekeeper Fabulous.
@@BarefootBeekeeper hahaha that's brilliant
David Promphret had a similar case but with actual proof.
I feel bad for women especially. We need to stop and think about this.
Domestic violence towards women is so integrated into the fabric of so many societies that the "punishment" for a woman breaking out and fighting for her rights which have been so denied--as assault, rape and daily abuse is "supposed" to be tolerated and if a woman kills her abuser that is deemed an absolute murder but it is absolute self-defense (in many cases). In the US, one of the US Capital insurrectionists just was handed an 8-month sentence for breaking into the capital. Another black male was handed a 20-year sentence for having voted a few months before his prison probation status would have been terminated. The injustice against the victims of men, especially white males, remains as a force of systematic racism embedded into so many of the dominant cultures on the planet.
There's no racial angle to this case, so I don't know why you're choosing to use this comment section to promote your racial claims.
This has nothing to do with racism. But I see your point. White males seem to feel a great sense of entitlement over everyone and everything. But the gretest victims of all time, regardless of ethnicity, have always been women and children. And they still are.
Reverse the genders and ask yourself if a man convicted of killing his wife with a hammer, would ever have a claim of coercive control taken seriously.
Oh, you poor little victim of oppression. 🎻
I see that this little thought experiment was too taxing for you.
yeah, if it's provable. Murder, down to manslaughter... Men do get lesser time with "diminished responsibility" too. If the 'coercive control' created 'diminished responsibility', then yeah.
Killed wife: 11 years. Killed again: out in 4 years. Killed again:26 years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Johnson_(serial_killer)
lighthousewa.org.uk/freed-to-kill-again-and-again-theodore-johnson-and-the-truth-about-domestic-violence/
Old man killed wife with metal bar: www.thesun.co.uk/news/7804597/husband-battered-wife-death-iron-bar-freed/
If that was THE TRUTH then yes because didn't you see the story on Good Morning of the guy who left his girlfriend eventually-and she was clearly abusive. Times are changing.
I'm disgusted by Cathy Newman's interview and her treatment of this convicted killer and I've commented elsewhere here with my views, but I do remember a case in England where a man very calculatedly killed his wife - he planned it methodically and then attempted to cover his tracks but he was convicted of manslaughter but only and got three years. Mitigating circumstances were her controlling and bullying behaviour of many years. I disagree with the leniency of his sentence. It should have been longer.
'I hit him with a hammer'. No you hit him 18 times with a hammer.
Good..🔨
@@nopretribrapture2318 A very immature response by you there. You were in that relationship were you?
Years of torment until she was shattered into a million prices in every way!
He deserved it. Wife beaters are a waste of space.
Maybe she was listening to mc hammer..hammer time and got carried away.
I love when the anti SJW crowd and the self proclaimed "alpha males" cry about how victimized they are. 🍿
Love it when SJWs like yourself try to be edgy and implicate that murdered men aren't victims.
you're the one against social justice, here. 'why are men becoming more stoic': a woman bashes a man's head in, claims 'emotional abuse' and she is the victim #maletears. keep shaming and dismissing serious concerns of men, that's great 'female empowerment'. completely delusional misandry and disrespect.
No-one says they're both an alpha & a victim.
Coercive control is a very real thing, HOWEVER..... they had split as a couple and he had found someone else and moved on.
During her police interview she said, and I quote verbatim: “If I couldn’t have him no one could.”
Now if a man had taken a hammer to his ex wife’s skull and repeatedly brought it down until he’d murdered her and said those words during an interview he’d be in prison for life with a minimum tariff of 20 years or so as someone with jealousy issues of that nature is quite rightly a danger to any future partner.
I know victims of serious domestic abuse, I know victims of insidious coercive control & while it can take a very long time for them to leave their abuser and years of therapy to rebuild their lives, their trust and their fragile sense of self worth they would never, EVER have committed a brutal act like this just because their abuser no longer wanted to be in a relationship with them.
This is a serious travesty of the protections that woman are afforded when in the clutches of an abuser.
I’m frankly disgusted that she is being flouted on TV as an abuse ‘survivor’. She is an abuser too but her victim is dead whilst she is praised for her bravery. It makes a mockery of all the victims out there both female and MALE and it is setting a rather dangerous precedent.
Absolutely! And yesterday a 32 year old woman was let off raping a 14 year old boy as she didn’t know his age. Something is going very wrong in society.
Poor legal advice. His abuse needed to be mentioned.
Unfortunately, I have no one to trust or anyone that cares.
people do care
please reach out until you find people who are supporting you
God helps me forgive them
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Sounds like he always pushed the blame onto her and enjoyed seeing her doubt herself as he manipulated her into thinking she really was 'mad' and incapable as a woman even though he cheated on her and belittled her all the time. Seems he was the mad one.
My husband used to say to my daughters “look at her, you can tell it’s rag week again. She bi polar!! Horrendous psychological abuse, the police are and other professionals such as social workers need more training.
Sounds like she wasn't living with him when she killed him?.
Sagans Run @ that’s what I heard, she invited him around for dinner after she had wanted to leave him for years??? Then smashes him over the head with a hammer??? God knows
They were separated and not living together
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Insurance job with 🏡
This is why men 🚹 must stay away from 🚺 because of the feminised judicial system.
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Our lives matter ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️💗
I'd love to speak to this woman.
Even if she brought a hammer with her to your meeting?
Playing the victim
Oh I hope I get justice
Women needs to keep a bag packed and hidden until they can get out of harms way.. The rest of material things can wait for courts to help with...
I feel her this is so sad l know l have been through it and it's 🥹💔🤬
These stories very disturbing, and very upsetting, this man was extremely cruel and Very violent
This was absolutely terrible and Very difficult to watch
I hope that all Women Survive terrible situations, of abuse, coerced controlling situations, and physical abuse and violent situations
Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man tough...
Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man strong...
Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man cool...
Beating up a Woman doesn't make a man a man....
Beating a woman is Not masculine
Beating Women is NOT sexy
Beating Women is NOT manly
Using abuse, and force for sexual intimidation, by harmful behavior for sexual intimacy with someone doesn’t make a man, strong, cool, or, manly.
I believe in the Safety and Well-being Women, Children, and Men
WOMEN Have the RIGHT to FEEL SAFE and BE SAFE
This is a reply post regarding a article on Assault Against Woman:
For what is statistically true, or accurate, and even what is not included statistically, and all other crime such as this is what is ( violence against women) Always unacceptable...
Women have the Right to Feel SAFE and be Safe...
No woman..., or person....child...should ever have to experience this kind heinous personal intrusion in their lifetime, this seems to be occurring at least according to news reports more, and all to often.
Actually this activity should be in a stage, or state of Reversal, and NOT Increasing, I am continually upset as well as greatly disturbed in hearing such stories, as I have always have been...
My Heart Always... goes out to any person which have experienced any such similar experience of intrusion, attacks, and, or invasion of their personal well-being... due violence, and or violent behavior,
I will continue Praying for the Safety and Well-Being of Others...
Keep everyone SAFE
PLEASE BE SAFE
Your Life is important
Advocate of Humanity, Author, Writer, Poet, Safety Advocate
Jason Sandifer,
Michigan
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10/18/2021
I never ever feel safe. Two sociopathic men are dominating and controlling my life. I have severe PTSD and I fear sometimes that this is going to have a violent outcome. It's just terrifying.
@@stardustsparkles22I'd like to help you if possible
Maybe I’m destined to be alone for the rest of my life
She did the world a favour &she should be knighted.
@Reggie Cyde after you've experianced narcisstic abuse your opinion will be relevant/valid.
@Reggie Cyde yes, but how can you assume your opinion is right, when you have no experiance of the situation? It's good that she spoke about it, as it may help others to not let their situations get to that stage.
(it was a self defense fight for life)
@Reggie Cyde I havnt rewatched it. If she invited him round, then you are probably right, that it didn't need to happen. I believe in all those things. I also know that narcissists do hideous crimes everyday, and often get away with it due to their sociopathic/ manipulation abilities.
@Reggie Cyde imo it's better that she speaks about it, to prevent someone else who may be considering this to perhaps find another solution.
@Reggie Cyde women are also agressive, they are really mad, even more mad than men are sometimes, but the media potrayals only males as violent
Good for her
You go Queen 👑
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A hammer killer is your idol?
She is a MURDERER, not a victim.
she's actually both.
@@justsomekid33 would you say the same about a man?
@@fabrizio483 yes.
Fabrizio incorrect,he deserved what he got.
einsof bullshit
My niece had exact same,,her partner Peter Clarke just got sentenced.
uh huh, so intimidation leading to low self esteem. we have words for this already.
Words the smashing up of my things calls me names cut up a top I bought in charity shop calls me mental crazy he's slapped me choked now puts hand over mouth and pillow if I cry he gets more threatening
I hope you are away from this creature now
an issue with jurors is that they are the public, majority of the public don't understand how complicated Abuse is to legally identify and they only know the extremes of what to look for but coercive control is a subtle type of abuse used to completely ruin a persons self-esteem and is paired with other types of abuse for Sally Challen it was sexual, physical and financial. She was married to her husband for 30 years, that is 30+ years of abuse it's going to impact her mental health exponentially. People in the public can easily say 'why did she get out if she knew it was that bad', and there is no simple answer to that, could range from her being in love to her not having the money to leave, ect.
The education needs to begin in early years
It must be emphasised by the experts in domestic abuse that it is never, never, ok to kill. If you do, there's no dignity in that. You can't walk away with your head up.Your own life is also ruined. We can educate people to understand controlling behaviour long before it escalates, and get help to get out if necessary
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@@thecultofjohnnydelr.soulsw7010 No one believes the abused as the abuser keeps the abuse behind closed doors. Usually.
We should teach it's never ok to abuse. Killing is an extreme form of abuse, and in this case, was reactive abuse after decades of torment
Saying it's never never ok to kill in a domestic abuse relationship is just false. There's many reasons why it's ok.
It’s only controlling behaviour when the woman wants separation. It’s all bullshit. So many men in Spain got destroyed by feminist courts the last few years. All of them innocent, and they are trying to introduce the same system here. Man is guilty until proven innocent in spain, and has zero chance. Anything could be abuse, in a relationship... but only if your a man, will you be convicted.
My ex was incredibly abusive towards me but if I murdered her with a hammer I would be in jail. Women are often incredibly abusive and another thing about these women is they always claim to be abused themselves as a cover and an excuse.
Truth is; this makes you sound like an emotionally abusive person. Gaslighting at it's peak.
Well done though.
Hypocrisy and double standards. Women are never seen as being in the wrong and excuses are always made for women and women are never held accountable.
So she hit him with a hammer witch she happend to have in a bag
ABSOLUTE DISGRACE, PREMEDITATED MURDER. POOR BLOKE NEVER STOOD A CHANCE AND NOW HE HAS NOT GOT A VOICE BECAUSE SHE SMASHED HIS HEAD IN WITH A HAMMER, HE BEING BLAMED FOR HIS OWN MURDER. TRUTH WAS, HE WAS LEAVING HER FOR ANOTHER WOMAN SO SHE MURDERED HIM. LOOK AT THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND YOU WOULD AGREE.
You clearly missed the email he sent her saying they would try again, but with a letter of conditions. His sons even said he was awful to their mother. Think their opinions is more valid than yours
@@SURGE101 and you sound like a narcissist
Clearly you have a narsatistic personality to sympathise with this man.
@@SarahSmith-ym9ri NOPE ,you’re just naive!! She found out he was leaving her for another woman, so she went and met him with a hammer in her handbag. Then when his back was turned she bludgeoned him to death, that’s premeditated murder! HE IS THE VICTIM NOT HER! You need to study the case a bit more instead of using your SEXIST VIEWS to determine who is to blame!
@@SURGE101 I bet your traits are identical to this evil guy Just unfortunate he had the poor woman so ill, that she ended up falling for it and destroying her own life.
damn this lady is like a real life bea smith. all love and compassion to her.
Yeah love and compassion - I think if you saw her smash his brains in you'd be puking up. I think I would.
@@Fredders88 what's your point? You mad because she Defended herself against Her abuser?
@@camlatchford6182 can't think you would be talking about love and compassion if you saw this person doing what she did (unless you're a fanatic). I'm gobsmacked that someone who did this was interviewed purely as a victim.
@@Fredders88 dude, I don't know why you can't wrap your head around this. She was literally defending her life, this was self defense. She Was viciously abused for decades. Have you ever lived through abuse or domestic violence before?
@@camlatchford6182 It looks like you're not acquainted with the facts in this case. This isn't a person defending themselves against an attacker and killing them 'in the heat of the moment'. This is an someone killing their ex-partner in cold blood.
Good. 100%. I know how coercive controllers are.... I have been stalked by a group of them who are like cultic or something. Totally unreasonable. I don't know how she held herself back for so long.... I guess it's the push and pull of constantly being in a Resistance is Futile types of situation constantly and NEVER being able to distance yourself from it with healthy boundaries.
This reporter needs to sort it out as she keeps referring to it as if it is only men that do this when in fact women do this just as much if not more
“What about the menzzz”
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Thst just not true as wo men do not die each week in the UK so to say this happens equally amoung the sexes is simply not accurate.
Woemn are much more lightly to be victims of domestic abuse than men although yes if course it does hapen to men but in no way as high numbers
She still wears necklace he bought her..
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It's so sad that no-one helps and I know for sure only from my perspective and experiences have I learnt that people are afraid they run rather than help. I understand because I know the pain not there pain but me I would run to but I can't so glad you can and I say this without Malice as you are in a better place than me take care as you care for those who love you but what about the ones that haven't learnt to love amen to that
I can think of a million things I'd rather do than spend 5 minutes talking to either of these women
Something is not right here. They already broke up but she invites him and smacks him with a hammer. Then I see no proof if the accusations are true.
She had wrote a letter saying she loved him and wanted to try again. He replied he would if she complied with his conditions. She agreed to conditions which were 'continue the divorce process and only take 200k settlement, to stop talking to people when they go out, to stop smoking, to not interrupt him when he is talking' she loved him so she agreed in the hopes they would work out their marriage, however after she agreed to his demands, he said he would only see her one day a week so he could see if she had changed. Actually watch more than an 8minute video before making judgements on what you have not taken the time on.
Theres also plenty of proof.
@@capricornangel7957 How does her bringing a hammer with her fit into that plan?
She is speaking the truth.
rather than kill the man, why not just leave. I mean it takes more courage to kill someone than to just walk away from them I suppose. Men are always advised to remove themselves from abusive women rather than react back but women are always excused for reacting abusively.
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My ex used to behave like this I would of killed her if I knew you can get away with it with a shitty reason
So a women can legally kill a guy and her get out of jail card is 'he abused me' and everyone blindly believes her. Men should be more careful these days. This can happen to any of us men.
Yes men should be careful if they have no respect for women! 🤦🏽♀️ They may find themselves on the receiving end later. Dummy
@@yougotthis7723 So you support fake allegations. Got it.
Yes it's scary world for men, be sigma male and never make women the priority in life. Walkaway anytime and enjoy life with your other priorities in life.
That level of ignorance is only coming from a male perspective says it all
The son’s testified that he’d abused her. I saw footage of a family holiday when he was openly bullying his wife and flirting with other women in front of hef
What about reactive coercive control?
I note here that shes STILL wearing a necklace pointed out by her ex colleague ib the BBC documentary. It qas shoen there her wirkmate noticed there was 2 pieces of jewellety she wore all the time - this and a heavy bracelet he bought her. Then one day she didnt wear the necklace and when her workmate commented on this, Sally told her he took it away, saying she didnt deserve it.
So why is she still wearing this reminder of the scumbag? Irs ckear she hasnt let him go fully, because if she had she would nkwxtakr that jewellery etc and throw them in the nearest lake or into the sea. And ket the past go, and let him rest in peace now, wherever he may be.
She is a murderer it was not manslaughter. There was coersive behaviour on both sides. In the BBC documentary she said if she couldn’t have him no one could. She has a personality disorder and watching the behaviour of her son David he also has mental issues. ‘Speak to someone’ what a load of tosh no matter what anyone said she was obsessed with her husband. She should be sent back to jail and complete her sentence.
So brave to come on tv and talk about something so traumatic
only 9 years ??? she was jealous that is that
The parents that tortured and murdered the little 5 year old boy got 7, and 8 years (one got 7, one 8)
She killed a monster, regrets it, and did not plan it.
How about we fight to put abusers and people that torture vulnerable people in jail?
Hacking is coercion it is breaking the law. ⚖️ you stay the feck away from me , I’m staying the feck away from you. I have no wish to be anywhere near you.
It’s insidious and the statistics are high sometimes I think why risk it and get in a relationship with anyone so many humans really are horrible natured beasts
i don't blame her one bit. she did what she had to do. maybe once, the abuser gets scared, himself...sweet!
She was describing Boris Johnson
Smashing your partner's head around 20 times with a hammer from behind is the worst form of domestic violence there could be.
Way to exclude context, simpleton.
@@NxDoyle - Try writing a coherent sentence next time!
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They were not living together, she invited him over and had a hammer on her. She unexpectedly hit him with the hammer 20 times without him doing anything physicial. She subsequently stuffed his mouth and proceeded to wash the dishes. This is some of the context surrounding her killing her husband. Why would she have a hammer with her if she didn't consider the possibility of using it? Why did she invite him to her home if all she really did was kill him? If you want to include the context of abuse, it is based on her words. The person who supposedly abused her cannot even use words anymore because she killed him. As far as I'm concerned, you're acting like the simpleton.
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@nero zero - That's preposterous! Over 20 hammer hits to the back of the head whilst they were already seperated and after she had gone to his house is certainly not the same as that!
Good for her.
this may really crazy to even exrpress. but do you maybe "think" such "set up with tool" and "don't question me" may have been a way to see what you would do in that "situation"?..youtube, please delete if in violation of any threat rules. thank you !
I feel so sorry for this lady, whilst i do not condone her killing him i just think mentally she snapped after years of abuse. Coercive control is just as bad if not worse than physical abuse at times. It wears you down and is dehumanising to the point where you question everything you do. People that use coercive control are evil. It takes years to try and get mentally well again she will most certainly have PTSD 😢
I cannot believe Channel 4 disgusting
Bet this lies and she killed for her lover
I find it quite disturbing. I'm watching a murderer on TV being given a platform to influence others. Strange times indeed
im sure you've committed murder in your heart and mind against your enemies, haven't you hippercript?!!!
@@nopretribrapture2318 hahah true man
Yes, it was a very strange interview - normally a convicted killer like her would have a challenging interview. For one thing none of the interviewees' allegations for e.g. that she was raped by here ex-husband were qualified by the interviewer. i was trying to think of this happening before and all I could think of was when the actor and broadcaster Danny Dyer interviewed Loyalist murderers and he was joshing and laughing with them.
Jesus since when u can kill an unfaithful husband ,who u no longer even lived with, with a hammer and then not only be proven innocent but also become a celebrity and a hero?? Why did she stopped the divorce she initiated, why did she not just cut all the contacts with him if he was That bad?? How is this ok?
Do you know anything about emotional and psychogical abuse effects on the brain at all? Cause it sounds like you don't. You obviously can't make decisions from a healthy, logical, rational standpoint because there are literal CHEMICAL CHANGES IN THE BRAIN caused by abuse! So stop judging her decisions re marriage/divorce if you didn't experience this yourself. So sick of these comments
Bex Cusens 1) what you are describing is bullshit and has no scientific basis 2) Ok. Let’s say u are right. So she couldn’t control herself? And we can’t hold her responsible for her actions? That’s called insanity. And if that’s the case she is clearly dangerous to the public and should be locked up in the asylum, not giving interviews on TV.
I don’t know what uve got for a brain, but do not try to use it for arguments like these woman, it’s not working...
Sick of idiots like you on this thread. This video is a tiny snippet of what actually happened
@@capricornangel7957 Well can you tell us what happened?
@@AIartificalIntellige no I mostly learn to satisfy my own curiosity, not to educate people who can't be bothered
When you start thinking if the other person was dead or if you were dead you will have "freedom" means you have gotten to a really bad place and you need help
A typical case like betty broderick
Sounds like a jealous rage and she isn't sorry at all.
When Christ is not in the middle of a loving union, these things will happen. Narcissists can change, everyone can with love from Jesus Christ.
Not many of them will change there actually is people in the church pastors , Deacons, missionary , who abused their wives.
@@amberwalters9613 If they abused but continue abusing their wives it means the Holy Spirit hasn't truly entered them yet. Wonder why they are still in church?
Jesus did explain in one bible verse that not all people who said and claimed "Lord, Lord" will enter the gates of Heaven.
Maybe their hearts were unpure, they hadn't truly received Christ, continued to sin wothout remorse? Only our precious Father will judge in the end. What I do know os that as long as their alive with time, they CAN change.
Robert and Elizabeth is my family u guys so not going to be even on grounds for ur lies
9 years in jail is long but death is for eternity.
Exactly, her husband was a cheating sociopath, but she is a psychopath who should have served more time in prison.
He should have been tried by the law, not murdered in cold blood by a hammer because of her jealousy of infidelity.