You are indeed correct. I remember having been in Park prior to this, but I probably fumbled with the buttons and just entered customize, making me think I was in fact in track mode, when I wasn't (As can be seen by the missing vehicle-stat display). Well.. Now I feel silly 😂
All V4s are still V3+ chargers they share power across all dispensers. Each rectifier has a power budged of around 350kW. If the station is full these 350kW times the number of rectifiers gets equally distributed across all dispensers. The new V4 rectifier cabinets are announced and will support much more power.
I click for the data,... but, stayed for the Absolutely Beautiful Scenery and your personality! Great Video, sir, you are artist! Also, Thanks for the info.
The “smoke” is water vapor from the heat pump when supercharging. Can you tell in the next video if you’re able to fit standard 19” tesla wheels? If not is there any alternative to those 19” WW from Tesla? Congrats for your RUclips channel, well recorded and very complete
Cheers! That's also what I expected, glad to being able to confirm. As for the wheels; these are the Tesla 19" Wheels specifically for the 2024 Model 3 Performance. I'm not sure if other wheels fit straight on, but I can't imagine why they wouldn't. All I know is that the 18" don't fit, as the brakes on the Performance model are too big. I would however recommend hearing from someone else whether or not the standard 19" will fit, as I don't know for sure 🙂
@@Uchejnr Yes, I definitely will! I found it very strange that it wasn't fitted by Tesla themselves, and it seems they're not even available in the Tesla Accessory store. Odd. I guess I have to go third party.
While you were charging, the heat pump was heating the battery with high power, so the freezing part of the heat pump is really freezing the liquid. So this not to happen and block the heat pump it will pump some warm liquid through the freezing pipes, what will cause the frozen water outside the pipes to stream. Happens always to me.
Super video! 😀 Happy New Year, Mister Fench! 🎉 Wishing you many more amazing travels around Germany and beyond in your Tesla this year. Keep up the great content! 😊
Regarding supercharger power sharing, you were thinking of V2 sites where adjacent paired posts share power with each other and equallysplit power. V3/4 sites share the entire site power across all posts so it doesn’t matter which post you plug into but at the same time it’s not feasible for every post to have 250 kW of charging at all times as a typical 10 stall charger would then require 2.5 MW of available power and even more for larger sites, which is not always possible.
Thank you Jeddin! That makes sense. I guess on days where you know that the chargers are going to be full, it's better to revise your charging strategy and just stay a little longer, even if charging is slower, as you aren't guaranteed fast charging on the next stop? (In case of busy days)
@@MisterFench Also "V4" charger stalls are so far only connected to V3 distribution cabinets . 1 Cabinet for 4 stalls . Tesla announced upgrading to V4 cabinets starting 2025 . Then it will be 1 cabinet for 8 stalls and this redistribution of power should be better . So, right know you can think of "V4" sites as V3+ or V3,5 .
Thanks for the upload. I'm in the UK, and in my 2022 m3 long range, with acceleration boost, I'm still getting 275 miles in the middle of winter. Around 330miles in middle of summer. I'm considering the refresh performance, but the range hit would be annoying on my long drives I do once or twice a month for work!
If u mostly drive the car and dont use AP often,then u should try insane mode,I've personally found it uses less energy then chill mode,reason is because u use less energy to get up to speed and it's easier to stay up to speed. Great video,I also changed to 18s permanently, and sold my 20s. White looks great btw 😊
4:12 really good looking car. Much better than LR/SR. Crazy what the front bumper design does for the car ad a whole. As for drifting I had a 2024 Model 3 Perf fishtail on me in the rain during a right hand turn.
I love the car info and tourism combined into one. The views were truky spectacular!! Thank you for sharing. I was surprised by the efficiency as i thought the heat pump was supposed to mitigate it mote. Those without it must truly be poor.
Looking forward to the expensive winter wheels video. I'm going to order a M3P as well mid-January and I'm tempted to include the winter wheels package 😅
It’s steam from the batteries . It’s very normal at low temperatures, just getting rid of extra heat . Really good feature . The thermal system in a Tesla with a heat pump can produce steam under certain conditions, such as when charging at a Supercharger in cold weather. This is because the vehicle's HVAC system cools the battery to manage heat, and when the radiator fan stops running, moisture evaporates from the condenser, creating a visible "fog-cloud". Safety As long as the steam is white and odorless, it's just water vapor and poses no danger. However, if the smoke is black and smells burnt, you should be concerned.
Subscribed to see you you tackle the paint chip, I have a new White Tesla and matching the pain is something that I’m not looking forward too. Best of luck with it and the channel 🤞
@@gotchyeaaa they didn’t actually remove them. They are now integrated into the main headlight assembly and are hardwired to always be on with the daytime running lights and with regular beam
Can't imagine how mind blown you will be when overnight Tesla upgrade your basic autopilot into the FSD v13 we enjoy everyday on USA and Canada! Will come back to your channel just to see your reaction!
I don't ever think Tesla will offer a free FSD upgrade to basic AP users. Imagine if you just paid $7500 for FSD and 1 month later everybody else gets it for free :)
@@MisterFench Who said free? LOL You will have to pay but this will be the best tech you have ever experienced. In US and Canada there is a subscription for 99$/month. I assume Tesla will do the same in Europe.
Another great video, but very surprised by that consumption. My 1st Gen 2020 M3P would settle down around 345 to 350wh hours per mile in those conditions. 393wh per pile is very high for a new version!
I agree it seems a bit high, but it's also important to note that I drove quite fast in the second half of my drive back (when weather allowed), and the terrain is quite hilly, combined with a poorly paved highway (increased roll-resistance). I'll try and do a more in depth winter test once the temperatures drop lower and I get some time on my hands 🙏
Hello. Can you make comparison between Model 3 Long Range AWD vs RWD ? very interesting times 0÷100kmh, 100÷200kmh; Are RWD has more real range ? Are RWD has lower consumption ? Are RWD has smaller turning circle ? Thanks.
@@suzakukururugi6613 Very close to each other! I always thought insane mode used up extra power for heating the batteries in order to give better performance, but perhaps this is only a negligible difference then. Hmm. May have to start driving in track mode constantly 🙂
@@MisterFench i was surprised too, but I do live in southern California and baby the accelerator when I don’t need the insanity 🤡 and most of the driving is actually in stop and go traffic so may be different from your driving speeds/terrain
The winter wheels are 19" and a bit more narrow, so they should be more efficient, however tires would be a little less efficient, so I guess it kind of adds up to the same? 🙂
I have had the charge port cover not open or recognize my presence when pressing on the cover, I suspect interference with bluetooth or NFC with it in my cell phone in my pocket, I have not experienced it with my cell phone in my hand, i have not used the Tesla charge button sufficiently enough to experience what you have though
@ thank you this was informative, i think this is why it doesn’t work sometimes as Wikipedia states “LPD433 equipment that meets the respective Ofcom Interface Requirement can be used for model control, analogue/digitised voice and remote keyless entry systems. There is significant scope for interference however, both on frequency and on adjacent frequencies, as the band is far from free. The frequencies from 430 to 440 MHz are allocated on a secondary basis to licensed radio amateurs who are allowed to use up to 40 W (16 dBW) between 430 and 432 MHz and 400 W (26 dBW) between 432 and 440 MHz. “
Nope. You made mistake. If you travel long, you needed to purchase LR RW. Set heating in manual mode 20C, fan at 1, heating seats, heating steering wheel. Always, always preheat battery before you go. You gonna be amazed how low consumption it’s even in -20C. Here in Scandinavia we all doing so, and we are very pleased with our el cars even in winter.
I've always recommended the LR RW for people whose priority are longer trips. Just an unbeatable amazing efficiency that car has. For me; performance and looks were the priority though, so had to go with the M3P. Otherwise, definitely LR RWD.
@@alexa795well, the Performance is not only about being the fastest on a drag race. It also has better seats, 20" wheels, sport exterior, dual suspension mode, more power above 100km/h and a top speed of 263km/h. In Scandinavia you can't use the last, but even the rest makes a big difference compared to the LR. I just drove 4000km trough Denmark, Sweden and especially east Norway and this would have been much more complicated with the non all-wheel drive LR RWD. But even in cold conditions and with a lot of snow on the roads my 3HP used only 22kWh on average (Tesla). With a price of 25-27 Cents per kWh on a Supercharger in Norway, I couldn't care less about my consumption, that's just over 6€/100km. Sure, the LR may have only used 18-19kWh on the same roads, but I just love the Look of the Performance!
@ Of course, i understand that you can not drive RW cars in snow. But absolute not any problems with LR RW in snow. Every Swed, Norsk, Finsk, can hande any type of RW car in any type of weather, just with Tesla model 3 LR RW its like you driving train. On the other hand that range from LR RW, performance model can only dream about. Here in Sw I transportstyrelsen site everyone can see that performance model buying 90% guys from 25 to 35 year old , SR and LR buying adult people that do not need 500 + hp. For us adults its just waste of huge amount of money to choose Performance….
@@alexa795 absolutely understandable, I got my Performance for the price of the LR, so that made my decision easy. My go to was the LR, so I agree with you. Except for Germany you don't need the performance of the P instead oder the LR, but in Germany it also makes a lot of fun to accelerate above 150km/h and say goodbye to an Golf R or Seat Cupra with very young guys behind the wheel.
I unplugged the car directly from a charging session when I left - had also set the car to preconditioning, as well as heated the cabin. It's worth noting that the paving is poor on this stretch of highway, as well as the terrain being quite hilly! When looking at the numbers from summer, the 25% increase sounds about right though. In a flatter terrain I'm sure it would be much much lower!
I just wrote a comment on this too. Even my old M3P version 2020 would plateau about 350w/h per mile (217 w/h per km) in these conditions and it’s nowhere near as efficient as the new one.
@@MisterFench when preconditioning starts, please open app and see if there's a message "heating battery for optimal performance" (orange waves on top). This can heat them up to 40'C which is a blessing in such conditions. But ironically, batteries must be cold (5'C) for this to happen. If they are around 15'C heating won't start. It's awful that Tesla doesn't allow us remotely force the heating process (in car I can use S3XY buttons).
How is the car in the fog? I have Skoda with ACC that uses radar in the front and the car sees through the fog. I would love to consider Tesla as my next car, however the reliance on cameras is something that feels to me like a step back, especially it it doesn't see further ahead than I do. Or does it have radar too?
No radar unfortunately, it solely relies on the cameras. While I didn't have any issues, I would also prefer radar for adaptive cruise control, as I feel like it would be "safer" in conditions like these. On the other hand, one should never drive faster than conditions allow, so in heavy fog, even with radar, one should still drive cautiously and slowly ahead. What I do occasionally miss, are true parking sensors and not just cameras. I'm having a hard time trusting these cameras for real accurate and close distance parking🫣🙂
@ Thank you! Absolutely agree on driving cautiously no matter if the car is equiped with radar or not. Need to give Tesla a try and experience the parking without sensors. I’m all good with the cameras, but the sensors are again a nice additional safety feature. Nevertheless, great channel, love the content. Thank you for the high quality vids of your roadtrips 😎
@@ondrejfenclcomI really prefer the 3d visualization while parking and the performance of autopilot / acc of the new vision-only Tesla's compared to my 2018 model 3 with ultrasonic sensors and radar. Just my opinion.
I have had a radar sensor in a previous Tesla. It could see „through“ (underneath really) the car in front. Great as it could detect this car braking. However, it didn’t work when there was snow on the front bumper and it causes phantom braking. With my new Tesla I have not missed it so far. Especially in rain the cameras work pretty well. AFAIK, the Model S/X still have it build in but not sure if it’s being used.
143 miles in winter for 80% is shit tbh. People clearly telling lies about winter range. That’s not even 50% of wltp test cycle. Nice to see some real numbers rather than the propaganda
I'm sure conditions can make the numbers even worse once you get snow and sludge on the road. There is definitely a lot of dishonest motor journalism going on, I do my best to show real actual numbers from my own trips/testing. But yeah, not ideal figures for an EV, I agree.
Ich war dieses Jahr im Sommer an der Bastei. Danach ging es weiter Richtung Breslau. Tolle Ecke definitiv. Zum Verbrauch. Das ist einer der Gründe, warum ich kein EV haben möchte. Ich bin viel unterwegs mit meinem Auto (Allwetter drauf ) und der Mehrverbrauch zwischen Sommer und Winter beträgt vielleicht 0,3 vielleicht 0,4 Liter im Schnitt. 244 wh/km plus 10% Ladeverluste, kann sich jeder selbst ausrechnen. Ich meine mal gehört zu haben, das die Ladeverluste bei Tesla nicht mitgerechnet werden ( bitte um Korrektur falls dies nicht stimmt ) aber an allen anderen Ladesäulen habe ich die nun einmal. Dann kommt bis 100tkm die Degradation dazu von 7-10% , also weniger Reichweite später.
Die Bastei und Breslau sind wirklich schöne Orte. 😊 Zu deinem Punkt mit den Ladeverlusten und der Effizienz von E-Autos: Es stimmt, dass Ladeverluste nicht direkt im Verbrauch (Wh/km) eines E-Autos berücksichtigt werden, sondern sich erst beim Laden bemerkbar machen. Bei Tesla wird der angezeigte Verbrauch im Fahrzeug in der Regel ohne Ladeverluste angegeben - das heißt, die zusätzlichen 10 % (oder mehr je nach Ladesituation) müssen tatsächlich separat berücksichtigt werden. Danke, dass du deine Erfahrungen geteilt hast! Es ist spannend, verschiedene Perspektiven zu hören. 🙏
I'm always so disappointed hearing these appalling range figures from the best in the business 😢 I really want to buy the next gen model y when it comes out in 2025, but I love road trips... the driving part not the stopping every 300km for 30 mins or more because it's a bit cold out.
It's worth noting that Tesla make some of the most efficient EV's out there. If you think these numbers are bad, I can assure you, had I done the same trip in another car model, figures would be even worse. At least if we're comparing apples to apples, i.e. a 500hp Performance car on super wide 20" wheels, driving in hilly terrain, heavy fog, cold conditions, at times driving with 170-190 (on my way back). etc. I will absolutely guarantee that Tesla performs better than other cars. If you'd take a sensible Model 3 LR RWD on 18" wheels, the efficiency would look much much different! :-) Don't let this test discourage you for a Model Y! 🙏
@MisterFench that's why I mentioned the best in the business, non sarcastically :) no electric cars can give anywhere near their WLTP range and it's super disappointing for me. May I ask, as I'm also in the EU what would a typical large charge up at a super charger on your road trips cost you approximately?
@@MisterFench i actually can’t wait to see what the numbers will be for your 19”. In the aftermarket where I am they make 18” wheels that fit over the performance brakes in which i would like to test with winter tires
@@BernardVisagie maybe try the Lucid if available in your area? It is slightly more efficient with larger battery pack to get massive range (400-500 miles depending on model)
@@suzakukururugi6613 the cheapest Lucid air is 88000 euros in the Netherlands while the model y should be well below 60 000 euros which is the maximum I would like to spend on my next vehicle.
@hkad6252 What I showcased was an extension of the already functioning and integrated blindspot assistant. Usually you just have a small light going on by the mirror, like every other manufacturer, this update however neatly integrates the whole LED strip. I have not seen other manufacturers offer this, even Tesla doesn't, this is a third party upgrade 👍
What is of course not being shown, are all the times I go on 20-200km drives, without having to do a charge. It's really only these extra long drives where charging becomes a hindrance. Most of the trips I primarily do for the sake of making an episode as well. So there's that. If you however frequently need to go on +600km trips in the winter, I definitely wouldn't recommend an EV. Diesel all the way 🙂😉
@@MisterFench Yes I agree, if you can charge at home it's fine. It gives you the possibility to start the trip with 100%. Then you drive to a nice hotel and you can charge there as well and go back starting with 100%. Without the home-charging possibility, an EV is more demanding than a dog. I tested the experience in Vienna and I was shocked at how clumsy and unintuitive the charging was (charging did not start properly, 2 different cards for 2 different charging stations, stations overbooked, spending 1h+ on the phone checking for available chargers nearby, multiple memberships, penalties for "blocking" the charger after the car is full, Tesla chargers 20km outside of city center, no restaurants or toilets at the chargers etc). A normal person's driving pattern is not that of a hobby driver. I prefer to start the car, drive 400km, make a stop, drive again 200km and park the car. The next day, quick stop for refuel at the least busy station and torpedo back 600km in one shot, usually on 150km/h cruise control. Fuel consumption is around 8l/100km and the occasional oil changes are not an issue for most people. One big game changer for me is ownership of the petrol car for 10+ years (depreciation is kilometer driven based) while EVs are unlikely to survive that long (depreciation is time based aka the car will depreciate heavily each year even if it stands still for example). Imagine buying a 10 year old ipad on wheels, it's a ticking time bomb for your wallet. I love Tesla cars though, I would buy one if I would not be reliant on 100% public charging. I would travel the world from supercharger to supercharger and sell it before it gets too old. That's a clear win compared to Petrol or Diesel (but a modern diesel is a catastrophe anyway, I'd never buy one with DPF, Adblue etc).
@jebeno321 Completely agree. An EV is in no way as easy to get into as a 'normal' car, especially if it's only for a short period of time, with no proper guidance. Even as a quite tech-savvy guy, with now 12k kilometers driven, there are still new things I learn along the way in regards to charging, as shown in this very episode. Even if I would combine all the things I've learned along the way, for someone new into EVs it probably wouldn't even be easily understandable. Much of it you just have to learn by experience. So it's very much something needs to take into consideration when choosing to drive an EV.
@@MisterFench Yes, also one huge part that is still a bit "unknown" is the servicing of EVs at "normal" mechanic shops. Supposedly, the EU is preparing safety measures ensuring that a faulty EV is not allowed to be parked next to another car due to fire protection and safety regulation. Imagine what that does to the EV owner's wallet if the mechanic can accept only 20 cars instead of 60. As if the high costs of high-end tech repairs wouldn't be enough! I hope this doesn't get passed but knowing the EU obsessions around regulation, I am sure it will, even if only 1 car catches fire at a mechanic shop in a decade. Most of those points are already reflected on the secondary market (nobody is crazy to buy an old EV), making the car almost an illiquid good (no resale market). God have mercy on those and their wallets.
Fench, your videos are top class! I really enjoyed hearing you talk, alongside with beautiful camera shots and a stunning car!
@QilianX thank you so much my friend 🙏🙏
you haven't enabled track mode to drift, you need to stop and set to Parking to be able to enable it.
You are indeed correct. I remember having been in Park prior to this, but I probably fumbled with the buttons and just entered customize, making me think I was in fact in track mode, when I wasn't (As can be seen by the missing vehicle-stat display). Well.. Now I feel silly 😂
All V4s are still V3+ chargers they share power across all dispensers. Each rectifier has a power budged of around 350kW. If the station is full these 350kW times the number of rectifiers gets equally distributed across all dispensers. The new V4 rectifier cabinets are announced and will support much more power.
Thank you Nick, that makes sense! So on days where charging stops are full, I guess we can't always expect fast charging.
I click for the data,... but, stayed for the Absolutely Beautiful Scenery and your personality! Great Video, sir, you are artist! Also, Thanks for the info.
Thank you Daniel. Appreciate it!
The “smoke” is water vapor from the heat pump when supercharging. Can you tell in the next video if you’re able to fit standard 19” tesla wheels? If not is there any alternative to those 19” WW from Tesla?
Congrats for your RUclips channel, well recorded and very complete
Cheers! That's also what I expected, glad to being able to confirm.
As for the wheels; these are the Tesla 19" Wheels specifically for the 2024 Model 3 Performance. I'm not sure if other wheels fit straight on, but I can't imagine why they wouldn't. All I know is that the 18" don't fit, as the brakes on the Performance model are too big.
I would however recommend hearing from someone else whether or not the standard 19" will fit, as I don't know for sure 🙂
@@MisterFench Maybe get some lug nut covers and wheel centre cap to complete the look. New wheel set locks sick btw
@@Uchejnr Yes, I definitely will! I found it very strange that it wasn't fitted by Tesla themselves, and it seems they're not even available in the Tesla Accessory store. Odd. I guess I have to go third party.
While you were charging, the heat pump was heating the battery with high power, so the freezing part of the heat pump is really freezing the liquid.
So this not to happen and block the heat pump it will pump some warm liquid through the freezing pipes, what will cause the frozen water outside the pipes to stream. Happens always to me.
Super video! 😀
Happy New Year, Mister Fench! 🎉 Wishing you many more amazing travels around Germany and beyond in your Tesla this year. Keep up the great content! 😊
@IntercityExpress16305 thank you very, and likewise! Hope you have a great 2025 ✨️🙏🙂
Regarding supercharger power sharing, you were thinking of V2 sites where adjacent paired posts share power with each other and equallysplit power. V3/4 sites share the entire site power across all posts so it doesn’t matter which post you plug into but at the same time it’s not feasible for every post to have 250 kW of charging at all times as a typical 10 stall charger would then require 2.5 MW of available power and even more for larger sites, which is not always possible.
Thank you Jeddin! That makes sense. I guess on days where you know that the chargers are going to be full, it's better to revise your charging strategy and just stay a little longer, even if charging is slower, as you aren't guaranteed fast charging on the next stop? (In case of busy days)
@@MisterFench Also "V4" charger stalls are so far only connected to V3 distribution cabinets . 1 Cabinet for 4 stalls . Tesla announced upgrading to V4 cabinets starting 2025 . Then it will be 1 cabinet for 8 stalls and this redistribution of power should be better . So, right know you can think of "V4" sites as V3+ or V3,5 .
Thanks for the upload. I'm in the UK, and in my 2022 m3 long range, with acceleration boost, I'm still getting 275 miles in the middle of winter. Around 330miles in middle of summer.
I'm considering the refresh performance, but the range hit would be annoying on my long drives I do once or twice a month for work!
I'm getting jealous of all these beautiful road trips you go on.
Your style of videos is so nice and relaxing. Would love for the to be longer. But that would maybe spoil the atmosphere of it all
Next time you’re around try the old track in Hohnstein. That road makes you smile especially in that car. Thanks for the video!
Cheers! Which track is that? I just searched on Google and was not able to find any info on a track? :)
@MisterFench It’s called Deutschlandring or Großdeutschlandring. Was built in dark times. The German Wikipedia has an entry.
@frankbecker9880 awesome! I have to go there 👌👌😇
If u mostly drive the car and dont use AP often,then u should try insane mode,I've personally found it uses less energy then chill mode,reason is because u use less energy to get up to speed and it's easier to stay up to speed. Great video,I also changed to 18s permanently, and sold my 20s. White looks great btw 😊
4:12 really good looking car. Much better than LR/SR. Crazy what the front bumper design does for the car ad a whole.
As for drifting I had a 2024 Model 3 Perf fishtail on me in the rain during a right hand turn.
Cheers! I think so too! Massive difference with larger wheels and the front spoiler 👌🙏
3:33 happened to me also with Tesla Y and I assumed it was water from cooler being vaporized so it wouldnt freeze there.
Thanks for the info, I can feel an update brewing for the ambient lane warning feature, I’m sure Tesla can make that happen.
Fog is same as rain. It is a lot of water in the air so much higher resistance during driving.
Yes, that's what I expected as well. With that in mind, I figure heavy fog with 80 is close enough to 120 in clear conditions .🤔
@MisterFench where are you located in Germany? As you have an Italian license plate? I'm from cologne.
Cool man. Keep it up. Great content.
I love the car info and tourism combined into one. The views were truky spectacular!! Thank you for sharing. I was surprised by the efficiency as i thought the heat pump was supposed to mitigate it mote. Those without it must truly be poor.
Thank you so much. Yes, I'm afraid that electric cars just suffer immensely under colder temperatures. In 10 years from now maybe there's a fix 🙂
Looking forward to the expensive winter wheels video. I'm going to order a M3P as well mid-January and I'm tempted to include the winter wheels package 😅
Are they cheaper to buy as an included option? Unfortunately when I ordered, it wasn't a possibility :/
@MisterFench €3800 incl VAT in Romania
It’s steam from the batteries . It’s very normal at low temperatures, just getting rid of extra heat . Really good feature .
The thermal system in a Tesla with a heat pump can produce steam under certain conditions, such as when charging at a Supercharger in cold weather. This is because the vehicle's HVAC system cools the battery to manage heat, and when the radiator fan stops running, moisture evaporates from the condenser, creating a visible "fog-cloud".
Safety
As long as the steam is white and odorless, it's just water vapor and poses no danger. However, if the smoke is black and smells burnt, you should be concerned.
Subscribed to see you you tackle the paint chip, I have a new White Tesla and matching the pain is something that I’m not looking forward too. Best of luck with it and the channel 🤞
@03029174 much appreciated! 🙏
With the s3xy commander you can also disable the front motor if you want, drifting should be easier that way.
I was not aware of this! Will it also disable traction control?
@MisterFench Haven't tried it myself yet, but looking at the tiresmoke it does 😇 ruclips.net/video/yQEiZXz1jyQ/видео.htmlsi=bgDiJD8LXBUEs_IY
@@jeroenvels80 Awesome, thanks! 🙂
About drift mode, you were not in insane acceleration mode and track mode was not enabled
1:25 it's better to use fog lights instead of highbeam. fog lights are supposed to be below fog instead of being reflected by it.
Highland does not have fog lights. Dumb decision on Tesla's part
Correct. High beams will actually reflect more and ironically reduce your visibility.
@@gotchyeaaa so then running on low beam can counterintuitive be better
@@gotchyeaaa For the 3 times a decade you need them yes. :D
@@gotchyeaaa they didn’t actually remove them. They are now integrated into the main headlight assembly and are hardwired to always be on with the daytime running lights and with regular beam
Can't imagine how mind blown you will be when overnight Tesla upgrade your basic autopilot into the FSD v13 we enjoy everyday on USA and Canada! Will come back to your channel just to see your reaction!
I don't ever think Tesla will offer a free FSD upgrade to basic AP users. Imagine if you just paid $7500 for FSD and 1 month later everybody else gets it for free :)
@@MisterFench Who said free? LOL You will have to pay but this will be the best tech you have ever experienced. In US and Canada there is a subscription for 99$/month. I assume Tesla will do the same in Europe.
Another great video, but very surprised by that consumption. My 1st Gen 2020 M3P would settle down around 345 to 350wh hours per mile in those conditions. 393wh per pile is very high for a new version!
I agree it seems a bit high, but it's also important to note that I drove quite fast in the second half of my drive back (when weather allowed), and the terrain is quite hilly, combined with a poorly paved highway (increased roll-resistance). I'll try and do a more in depth winter test once the temperatures drop lower and I get some time on my hands 🙏
I have the m3 and the smoke 💨 thing happens when I’m charging. It usually happens at the end.
Merry Christmas! ❤
Same to you! And a happy new year 🎉
The Smoke cames from the headpump. Its the condansation. Tesla gave us a Little Info Somewhere on there Homepage or in a update i dont know.
How much energy is spent keeping both the battery and you warm. How much range does that eat up.
What a beautiful destination
Hello. Can you make comparison between Model 3 Long Range AWD vs RWD ? very interesting times 0÷100kmh, 100÷200kmh; Are RWD has more real range ? Are RWD has lower consumption ? Are RWD has smaller turning circle ? Thanks.
With my M3P from 2022 and 4x 245 20inch winter tyre's I'm around 22kw/h
The wheel on the console - where did you get that? Or is it something only the performance model gets?
@@LukasWinter-e5f that's something called the S3XY Knob 👍🙂
I finally figured out why my energy usage was so off from yours, mine was in american units watt hour per mile, 😅
@@suzakukururugi6613 that will make somewhat of a difference indeed 😂
Turns out I switched to per km and we got nearly the same efficiency, with 95% driving in insane mode.
@@suzakukururugi6613 Very close to each other! I always thought insane mode used up extra power for heating the batteries in order to give better performance, but perhaps this is only a negligible difference then. Hmm. May have to start driving in track mode constantly 🙂
@@MisterFench i was surprised too, but I do live in southern California and baby the accelerator when I don’t need the insanity 🤡 and most of the driving is actually in stop and go traffic so may be different from your driving speeds/terrain
@@suzakukururugi6613 Yeah I'm typically cruising at 100+mph on the Autobahn, so that will definitely take a hit on consumption :)
Can you use heating while charging when you are sitting in the car?
Yes
Next time try Drift Pro feature using the sexy knob 😜
Have not heard of it, will check it out 🙂
3:38 - smoke or steam?
If you would have installed the wintertires before this trip..it would look even worse with the consumption.
The winter wheels are 19" and a bit more narrow, so they should be more efficient, however tires would be a little less efficient, so I guess it kind of adds up to the same? 🙂
I have had the charge port cover not open or recognize my presence when pressing on the cover, I suspect interference with bluetooth or NFC with it in my cell phone in my pocket, I have not experienced it with my cell phone in my hand, i have not used the Tesla charge button sufficiently enough to experience what you have though
The charge port opener operates at 433MHz.
@ thank you this was informative, i think this is why it doesn’t work sometimes as Wikipedia states “LPD433 equipment that meets the respective Ofcom Interface Requirement can be used for model control, analogue/digitised voice and remote keyless entry systems. There is significant scope for interference however, both on frequency and on adjacent frequencies, as the band is far from free. The frequencies from 430 to 440 MHz are allocated on a secondary basis to licensed radio amateurs who are allowed to use up to 40 W (16 dBW) between 430 and 432 MHz and 400 W (26 dBW) between 432 and 440 MHz. “
Nope. You made mistake. If you travel long, you needed to purchase LR RW. Set heating in manual mode 20C, fan at 1, heating seats, heating steering wheel. Always, always preheat battery before you go. You gonna be amazed how low consumption it’s even in -20C. Here in Scandinavia we all doing so, and we are very pleased with our el cars even in winter.
I've always recommended the LR RW for people whose priority are longer trips. Just an unbeatable amazing efficiency that car has. For me; performance and looks were the priority though, so had to go with the M3P. Otherwise, definitely LR RWD.
@ Yes you are young guy you need to be fastes on the green light. I was one’s time young also.
@@alexa795well, the Performance is not only about being the fastest on a drag race. It also has better seats, 20" wheels, sport exterior, dual suspension mode, more power above 100km/h and a top speed of 263km/h. In Scandinavia you can't use the last, but even the rest makes a big difference compared to the LR.
I just drove 4000km trough Denmark, Sweden and especially east Norway and this would have been much more complicated with the non all-wheel drive LR RWD.
But even in cold conditions and with a lot of snow on the roads my 3HP used only 22kWh on average (Tesla). With a price of 25-27 Cents per kWh on a Supercharger in Norway, I couldn't care less about my consumption, that's just over 6€/100km. Sure, the LR may have only used 18-19kWh on the same roads, but I just love the Look of the Performance!
@ Of course, i understand that you can not drive RW cars in snow. But absolute not any problems with LR RW in snow. Every Swed, Norsk, Finsk, can hande any type of RW car in any type of weather, just with Tesla model 3 LR RW its like you driving train. On the other hand that range from LR RW, performance model can only dream about. Here in Sw I transportstyrelsen site everyone can see that performance model buying 90% guys from 25 to 35 year old , SR and LR buying adult people that do not need 500 + hp. For us adults its just waste of huge amount of money to choose Performance….
@@alexa795 absolutely understandable, I got my Performance for the price of the LR, so that made my decision easy. My go to was the LR, so I agree with you. Except for Germany you don't need the performance of the P instead oder the LR, but in Germany it also makes a lot of fun to accelerate above 150km/h and say goodbye to an Golf R or Seat Cupra with very young guys behind the wheel.
244Wh/km :O that's oddly high. Did you precondition car before leaving home?
As for the smoke from underneath someone already explained it.
I unplugged the car directly from a charging session when I left - had also set the car to preconditioning, as well as heated the cabin. It's worth noting that the paving is poor on this stretch of highway, as well as the terrain being quite hilly! When looking at the numbers from summer, the 25% increase sounds about right though. In a flatter terrain I'm sure it would be much much lower!
I just wrote a comment on this too. Even my old M3P version 2020 would plateau about 350w/h per mile (217 w/h per km) in these conditions and it’s nowhere near as efficient as the new one.
@@MisterFench when preconditioning starts, please open app and see if there's a message "heating battery for optimal performance" (orange waves on top). This can heat them up to 40'C which is a blessing in such conditions. But ironically, batteries must be cold (5'C) for this to happen. If they are around 15'C heating won't start. It's awful that Tesla doesn't allow us remotely force the heating process (in car I can use S3XY buttons).
How is the car in the fog? I have Skoda with ACC that uses radar in the front and the car sees through the fog. I would love to consider Tesla as my next car, however the reliance on cameras is something that feels to me like a step back, especially it it doesn't see further ahead than I do. Or does it have radar too?
No radar unfortunately, it solely relies on the cameras. While I didn't have any issues, I would also prefer radar for adaptive cruise control, as I feel like it would be "safer" in conditions like these. On the other hand, one should never drive faster than conditions allow, so in heavy fog, even with radar, one should still drive cautiously and slowly ahead. What I do occasionally miss, are true parking sensors and not just cameras. I'm having a hard time trusting these cameras for real accurate and close distance parking🫣🙂
@ Thank you! Absolutely agree on driving cautiously no matter if the car is equiped with radar or not. Need to give Tesla a try and experience the parking without sensors. I’m all good with the cameras, but the sensors are again a nice additional safety feature. Nevertheless, great channel, love the content. Thank you for the high quality vids of your roadtrips 😎
@@ondrejfenclcomI really prefer the 3d visualization while parking and the performance of autopilot / acc of the new vision-only Tesla's compared to my 2018 model 3 with ultrasonic sensors and radar. Just my opinion.
I have had a radar sensor in a previous Tesla. It could see „through“ (underneath really) the car in front. Great as it could detect this car braking. However, it didn’t work when there was snow on the front bumper and it causes phantom braking. With my new Tesla I have not missed it so far. Especially in rain the cameras work pretty well. AFAIK, the Model S/X still have it build in but not sure if it’s being used.
Bear in mind the updated M3 has no fog lights either, which would greatly help the vision-only system in seeing better through fog
that Mr. Brown is Taiwan's national pride !
So good!
It is!
Me who drives on summer tyres all year round: lol
@@gamesmaster1060 Californians like me? 😼
143 miles in winter for 80% is shit tbh. People clearly telling lies about winter range. That’s not even 50% of wltp test cycle. Nice to see some real numbers rather than the propaganda
I'm sure conditions can make the numbers even worse once you get snow and sludge on the road. There is definitely a lot of dishonest motor journalism going on, I do my best to show real actual numbers from my own trips/testing. But yeah, not ideal figures for an EV, I agree.
It’s vapor not smoke! Lol
Ich war dieses Jahr im Sommer an der Bastei. Danach ging es weiter Richtung Breslau. Tolle Ecke definitiv. Zum Verbrauch. Das ist einer der Gründe, warum ich kein EV haben möchte. Ich bin viel unterwegs mit meinem Auto (Allwetter drauf ) und der Mehrverbrauch zwischen Sommer und Winter beträgt vielleicht 0,3 vielleicht 0,4 Liter im Schnitt. 244 wh/km plus 10% Ladeverluste, kann sich jeder selbst ausrechnen. Ich meine mal gehört zu haben, das die Ladeverluste bei Tesla nicht mitgerechnet werden ( bitte um Korrektur falls dies nicht stimmt ) aber an allen anderen Ladesäulen habe ich die nun einmal. Dann kommt bis 100tkm die Degradation dazu von 7-10% , also weniger Reichweite später.
Die Bastei und Breslau sind wirklich schöne Orte. 😊
Zu deinem Punkt mit den Ladeverlusten und der Effizienz von E-Autos: Es stimmt, dass Ladeverluste nicht direkt im Verbrauch (Wh/km) eines E-Autos berücksichtigt werden, sondern sich erst beim Laden bemerkbar machen. Bei Tesla wird der angezeigte Verbrauch im Fahrzeug in der Regel ohne Ladeverluste angegeben - das heißt, die zusätzlichen 10 % (oder mehr je nach Ladesituation) müssen tatsächlich separat berücksichtigt werden.
Danke, dass du deine Erfahrungen geteilt hast! Es ist spannend, verschiedene Perspektiven zu hören. 🙏
wow this is ultra bad consumption!
I'm always so disappointed hearing these appalling range figures from the best in the business 😢 I really want to buy the next gen model y when it comes out in 2025, but I love road trips... the driving part not the stopping every 300km for 30 mins or more because it's a bit cold out.
It's worth noting that Tesla make some of the most efficient EV's out there. If you think these numbers are bad, I can assure you, had I done the same trip in another car model, figures would be even worse. At least if we're comparing apples to apples, i.e. a 500hp Performance car on super wide 20" wheels, driving in hilly terrain, heavy fog, cold conditions, at times driving with 170-190 (on my way back). etc. I will absolutely guarantee that Tesla performs better than other cars. If you'd take a sensible Model 3 LR RWD on 18" wheels, the efficiency would look much much different! :-) Don't let this test discourage you for a Model Y! 🙏
@MisterFench that's why I mentioned the best in the business, non sarcastically :) no electric cars can give anywhere near their WLTP range and it's super disappointing for me.
May I ask, as I'm also in the EU what would a typical large charge up at a super charger on your road trips cost you approximately?
@@MisterFench i actually can’t wait to see what the numbers will be for your 19”. In the aftermarket where I am they make 18” wheels that fit over the performance brakes in which i would like to test with winter tires
@@BernardVisagie maybe try the Lucid if available in your area? It is slightly more efficient with larger battery pack to get massive range (400-500 miles depending on model)
@@suzakukururugi6613 the cheapest Lucid air is 88000 euros in the Netherlands while the model y should be well below 60 000 euros which is the maximum I would like to spend on my next vehicle.
Haha, a Tesla driver discovering basic features of other cars like a blind spot assist will always be entertaining.
@hkad6252 What I showcased was an extension of the already functioning and integrated blindspot assistant. Usually you just have a small light going on by the mirror, like every other manufacturer, this update however neatly integrates the whole LED strip. I have not seen other manufacturers offer this, even Tesla doesn't, this is a third party upgrade 👍
I LOVE Tesla
Not buying electric until it can do 600km in winter on the highway. Nope.
What is of course not being shown, are all the times I go on 20-200km drives, without having to do a charge. It's really only these extra long drives where charging becomes a hindrance. Most of the trips I primarily do for the sake of making an episode as well. So there's that. If you however frequently need to go on +600km trips in the winter, I definitely wouldn't recommend an EV. Diesel all the way 🙂😉
@@jebeno321 lucid motors can
@@MisterFench Yes I agree, if you can charge at home it's fine. It gives you the possibility to start the trip with 100%. Then you drive to a nice hotel and you can charge there as well and go back starting with 100%. Without the home-charging possibility, an EV is more demanding than a dog. I tested the experience in Vienna and I was shocked at how clumsy and unintuitive the charging was (charging did not start properly, 2 different cards for 2 different charging stations, stations overbooked, spending 1h+ on the phone checking for available chargers nearby, multiple memberships, penalties for "blocking" the charger after the car is full, Tesla chargers 20km outside of city center, no restaurants or toilets at the chargers etc).
A normal person's driving pattern is not that of a hobby driver. I prefer to start the car, drive 400km, make a stop, drive again 200km and park the car. The next day, quick stop for refuel at the least busy station and torpedo back 600km in one shot, usually on 150km/h cruise control. Fuel consumption is around 8l/100km and the occasional oil changes are not an issue for most people.
One big game changer for me is ownership of the petrol car for 10+ years (depreciation is kilometer driven based) while EVs are unlikely to survive that long (depreciation is time based aka the car will depreciate heavily each year even if it stands still for example). Imagine buying a 10 year old ipad on wheels, it's a ticking time bomb for your wallet. I love Tesla cars though, I would buy one if I would not be reliant on 100% public charging. I would travel the world from supercharger to supercharger and sell it before it gets too old. That's a clear win compared to Petrol or Diesel (but a modern diesel is a catastrophe anyway, I'd never buy one with DPF, Adblue etc).
@jebeno321 Completely agree. An EV is in no way as easy to get into as a 'normal' car, especially if it's only for a short period of time, with no proper guidance. Even as a quite tech-savvy guy, with now 12k kilometers driven, there are still new things I learn along the way in regards to charging, as shown in this very episode. Even if I would combine all the things I've learned along the way, for someone new into EVs it probably wouldn't even be easily understandable. Much of it you just have to learn by experience. So it's very much something needs to take into consideration when choosing to drive an EV.
@@MisterFench Yes, also one huge part that is still a bit "unknown" is the servicing of EVs at "normal" mechanic shops. Supposedly, the EU is preparing safety measures ensuring that a faulty EV is not allowed to be parked next to another car due to fire protection and safety regulation. Imagine what that does to the EV owner's wallet if the mechanic can accept only 20 cars instead of 60. As if the high costs of high-end tech repairs wouldn't be enough! I hope this doesn't get passed but knowing the EU obsessions around regulation, I am sure it will, even if only 1 car catches fire at a mechanic shop in a decade. Most of those points are already reflected on the secondary market (nobody is crazy to buy an old EV), making the car almost an illiquid good (no resale market). God have mercy on those and their wallets.
Polestar 4 way better.
Explain
polestar as a brand is a choice of losers or, to put it very politely, people with a huge lack of taste
I won't buy products related to Musk anyway
I'm not sure what this comment is in relation to?
What a weird way to flaunt a critical thinking deficit