So I know that being hard on the brakes is bad for fuel economy as opposed to letting off the throttle and gently coming to a stop, but can you explain to me why you think hard braking is worse than flooring it/hard driving?
@@MeynMotorGroup So a quick disclaimer, how fast you accelerate does make a slight difference in fuel economy, but ultimately, a combustion engine converts fuel to heat and kinetic energy with some ratio, and that ratio is the thermal efficiency. Modern vehicles (drive by wire equipped and to an extent all fuel injected) with automatic transmissions tend to keep the engine at the rpm that is closest to maximizing the thermal efficiency for the amount of power requested by the driver. The thermal efficiency curve (when isolated to only the combination of engine load and speed that yields the maximum, so we ignore situations like flooring it at 1100 rpm and barely touching the gas at 5500 rpm) has a peak usually around 2000-2500 and the area around it tapers off slowly. So you actually get the most bang for your buck when you are driving with a decently high engine load at around 2000-2500 rpm. That is, you get the most kinetic energy from your gasoline. The more you deviate from that range, the more heat you produce rather than motion that goes to the wheels, so yes, driving very hard does cost you a little more fuel. The main reason rate of accelerating doesn't change efficiency very much is that it takes a relatively constant amount of fuel to pick up a certain amount of momentum, to bring the vehicle from one speed to another. Once you produce that momentum, you can hypothetically coast on that momentum for quite a distance. Not forever obviously, friction and air resistance will always slow you down, but you can travel approximately between 1 and 2 MPH^2 in feet on flat ground. For example, if you're going 70 MPH, you should be able to travel between 4900 and 9800 ft on momentum alone if there is not a hill to slow you down or speed you up, and nothing like wind resistance. Low drag vehicles (fwd sedans, etc) will be on the higher end and high drag vehicles (4x4 suvs, trucks, etc) will be on the lower end. This is assuming wheel horsepower is 0. When the car is idling and the automatic transmission is in gear, at speeds below 4 mph, wheel horsepower is between 2-10 depending on the engine/trans, so we assume that car is shifted to neutral around that speed. If you floor a 4 cylinder midsize car and get up to 70 MPH, you'll travel roughly 1000 ft in 14 seconds burning an average of 8.0 gallons of fuel per hour, and burn roughly 0.03 total gallons of fuel. At the instant you reach 1000 ft distance traveled, you have an efficiency of 6.3 MPG, and if you were to immediatley slam the brakes and come to a screeching halt after 200 ft, you'll have traveled 1200 ft total and burned a trivial amount over 0.03 gallons, for an overall efficiency of 7.6 MPG. If you were to immediately release the gas and coast 9800 ft, you'll have traveled 10800 ft total and burned again a trivial amount over 0.03 gallons, this time a touch more because the engine will have spent much more time below the speed where it must inject fuel, so closer to 0.033 gallons this time (adding 0.3 GPH x 40 seconds of idling). But your efficiency in this scenario would be 62.0 MPG. 62.0 MPG sounds high, but we are talking about a pulse and glide type of driving where you are not wasting any energy through the brakes, so on a treadmill, this type of economy is not ridiculous when employing this technique on a low drag midsize car. The reason you will never see 62 on tank, is because cars do cold starts, they idle, run accessories, you have to brake for traffic, you have to park, etc. All those things add up. Now let's say you accelerate gingerly to 70 MPH, maybe 1/2 throttle where you keep the engine RPM between 2500-3000 RPM. You'll have traveled 2000 ft this time and burned an average of 3 gallons of fuel per hour for approximately 30 seconds, and burned a total of 0.025 gallons. At the instant you reach 70 MPH, you'll have an average of 15.2 MPG, and if you slammed the brakes similar to the scenario above and slowed to 0 in 200 ft, you'll have an MPG of 16.7. If you instead didn't brake at all and coasted down to a stop taking 9800 ft to do so, you would have burned about 0.028 gallons but travelled 11800 ft, for an average MPG of 79.8. When you compare braking as hard as possible to not braking at all, the difference between full throttle acceleration and accelerating gingerly was +120%, but the difference between accelerating gingerly and full throttle when not braking at all, was only +29%. *When you don't brake, the amount of additional fuel you use by accelerating in the most wasteful manner possible compared to using the engine in it's most efficient operating range is only about 30%.* The more you brake and the harder you brake, the bigger the delta. It's actually more efficient to floor a car up to speed, and let off the gas and coast to a stop than it is to accelerate really slowly and then slam the brakes at the last second. In general, you want to brake as little as possible to save as much fuel as possible. This can be achieved by increasing your following distance between yourself and the traffic ahead, and "defending" that following distance by releasing the accelerator pedal once you see traffic slowing down. You also have to learn how to coast. The distance you can travel increases with the square of your speed, so you can coast 4x farther at 2x the speed. Not only will you save gas with this method of driving, but it's also safer since you are paying more attention to what's ahead of you, you're increasing your following distance, and you're also saving wear on your brakes. Whenever you brake, you are wasting energy that the engine has already converted from fuel, and must replace again with more fuel. Whenever you coast, you are mostly driving for free. As you saw in my example above, the most extreme difference in braking vs coasting was between 380% - 715% (62/7.6 -1 and 79.8/16.7 -1), whereas the simple difference between medium and fast acceleration was 29% - 120%. This is why I say how you brake is more important than how you accelerate for economy. It is extremely wasteful to accelerate quickly in a short distance and immediately slow down than it is to accelerate slowly and not have as much momentum to start with and therefore have created less momentum and therefore used less fuel before needing to slow down. This is mainly where the concept that accelerating hard does damage to fuel economy comes from. If you have 2000 ft to travel from stop sign to stop sign, you can pick up a lot more momentum and therefore burn a lot more fuel in that distance if you accelerate quickly rather than accelerate slowly. But if your goal is to get up to speed and coast without using brakes at all, it doesn't matter much how fast you pick up speed since that's a tiny portion of the distance you will end up traveling. If you watch my borning, low production quality videos, you'll notice that I tend to accelerate rapidly from a stop but I am very slow to decelerate if traffic allows and I get at least 50% better than EPA ratings on all my vehicles.
You put so much effort into this response thank you, I read the whole thing. I see what you’re saying if there’s not too many stop signs coming up it doesn’t really matter if you floor and just start costing but braking destroys the momentum the engine has already built. I’m going to pin this conversation to the top, I hope people read it and thank you for taking the time to share this on my video.
Solid video and spot on Kevin... I drove to Spartanburg in the IS and exceeded the window MPG but I needed clear traffic, ECO mode, and cruise control. Needless to say it was boring as hell and that V8 wants to run.
This is the lc300 in tuxedo and by far the best ride u get in the US , doesn’t care about the mileage but u will get pretty decent mileage than the v8 , it’s the built quality and it’s made in japan that all it matters to this suv if ur keeping it for long time !!!
Informative video! I would have added that driving at or slightly below the speed limit at highway speeds drastically improves efficiency. I was able to achieve 42 mpg on my Honda HR-V by driving like a grandpa and staying at or below the speed limit. This was mostly done on a Highway loop. You made a good point about turbocharged engines- the key is to stay out of the turbos which is difficult. I was able to achieve slightly over 25 mpg on a GMC Sierra 2.7 turbo by driving carefully on the highway. Drafting behind tractor trailers didn’t hurt either. Not the safest thing to do as it requires the driver to pay close attention. Drive at your own risk!
That is a great point Jason regarding high way driving that you mentioned, driving a bit slower helps a ton as you mentioned and drafting. But yes draft at your own risk 😅 but those tips do make a difference thank you I will be sure to mention this on the next MPG vid
@@kalmmonke5037 Turbocharged engines produce lower emissions BECAUSE they burn less fuel. Automakers have CAFE standards (fuel economy) and emissions standards (CO2). Smaller turbocharged engines achieve both better MPG and CO2 numbers. Saying small turbocharged engines are made solely because of emissions is inaccurate. Both factors play a part. Maybe it’s different in your country.
Great tips for mileage, I wonder if this twin turbo is the same as the LS500, I would presume so. The slippery LS500 returns excellent mileage on the highway and or with a light foot. The Toyota 5.7 is just so good, maybe not on fuel, but in every other way. I was in my friends 21 Tundra a couple weeks ago, it is just magnificent. The V8s are going to be gone, the turbo and or twin turbo sixes are just the popcorn on the trail to EV I'm afraid. The good V8s, my favorite being the last GM LS, and Toyota 5.7 are just the best driving experience in creamy torque that will ever be and is now extinct. Turbos do not like aggressive driving is very true. Most people buying the LX600 or LS500 are probably not driving aggressively, I think my LS has been "floored" a few times when my bride was not present. Great review, keep em coming, I'm still road tripping a last year Trans Am, loving it.
So true my friend the 2021 Tundra is super underrated I’m glad you appreciate it and understand it. But yes I do think the new Tundra & this LX use some variant of the LS 500 engine but with different tuning and capabilities but yea LS is way more aerodynamic and less weight so much better gas mileage. I’m so glad you’re enjoying that Trans Am right now such an epic purchase sir. And I’m super humbled by the support you show me on this channel! Thank you
I love how lexus went with a V6 🙌on this model but they shouldn't have added the turbo on it😥. I do like the 5MPG gain though its a good upgrade from the V8🔥🔥🔥. I wanted to ask how did it feel when it comes to handling and cornering?
Some other tips, don't carry any unnecessary items in the car, extra weight = more fuel, try and imagine your throttle pedal as connected to your wallet and everytime you push it it's pulling dollar bills from it, and coast whenever going down hill, take your foot off the gas, and you'll be surprised at the difference these little things can make!
So true my friend keeping unnecessary junk in the car is not going to help vehicle performance across the board. Just spoke to another individual and was saying it doesn’t really matter if you floor it as long as you know you can coast down the road for a while since coasting is almost free driving. Thanks for sharing/watching!
Hi, Kevin. question for you: i went into my local LEXUS dealership last week to pay cash for a 2022 ES350 & was shocked when my salesman refused to go down one penny for that auto. cash paid in full, no discount !! i walked. looks like i'm going to continue driving my 2009 ES350. Advise, please.
Yea almost everyone is charging MSRP no more discounts most dealers are charging over MSRP. I’m partnered with a company known as LeaseCompanion (link in the description) you can get like 4% off MSRP but you might have to wait to have the vehicle built. You can ask them what the ES availability is they are located on Washington DC but you can have the car shipped for a price. If you are going to go down that path, I would go for an ES300h since it is equally as smooth but gets 40 mpg city and highway
No the Lexus press media spec sheet actually says 95 octane. 97 is typically sold at BP and Shell as premium but 93 is the most common premium fuel you can find
@@MeynMotorGroup You're right I found the Press spec sheet and it indeed says 95 or more. I only thought it was 91 for the minumum amount because it says it somewhere on th lexus website.
Actually you made a good point so sometimes you can’t always trust what the press media site says or the website because occasionally the information contradicts itself but what can we do right. We rely on the manufactures for accurate spec sheet reporting because after all, they made the car right. But even they report the wrong figures so it’s pretty messed up but it is what it is.
@@MeynMotorGroup So i just found out that Octane in Europe has different rating measurements than in US. So 95 octane in Europe is the same as 91 octane in the US. So yeah i think the spec sheet are going by EU or universal Ron measurements rather than the US octane measurements
Thank you so much for sharing this. Yea that kind of adds up, strange that Toyota would use a different standard of measure for the states but it’s possible and your explanation makes sense
Drive like a maniac ( with all the safety elements) once or twice in a month, especially for a turbo car else it will be a junk within fee years. These vehicles need to hit red line once in a while to get that engine tuned to achieve maximum performance through out the ownership years.
People who own 6 figure daily’s aren’t petty enough to keep it til 150k miles. They would have had 5 cars by that time and probably made money on a couple of those cars. They operate on another level.
In lexus lx 570 if you put 300,000 km on it it will cost you 82k dollars minimum. so for 10 years 90k considering you get ppf and anti rust. So it does matter unless you have a net worth of 10 million or more.
Is this your own ride? Congrats! LX600 is not up to the mark of GLS or X7 in terms of overall comfort, driving dynamics, features and tech. Was cross shopping this vs the X7 M50i/GLS580 and went with X7. Leased it. Lexus target market is not US or NA - but purely Asia, ME and other less developed places. In the middle of the desert or outback, no X7 or GLS or Defender will be trusted like a Lexus or Landcruiser. The only other reliable 4x4 is G63 AMG but it is 2x the cost. There is a mod for this engine available in Asia - makes ~ 90 more HP and 75 lbf of torque.
First off..the X7 isn't in the class of the GLS, and definitely the GLS Amg. I've driven both, I kept the LX 600. The LX 600 is a truck in frame, and it's fast as heck. The X7 is an amazing family hauler. The LX 600 is more directly compared to the Range Rover. It's not a family hauler though there's a 3rd row.
prius prime gets more mpge than any tesla and its rare to run on cleanly made elecriticty and batteries are dug out the ground not recyled bc each recyle weakens battery to point where it can be only be used in building like solutions, then its trashed soon. battery degrradation lifetime cost. if e fuels and hydrogen combustion come it can adapt. japan has prius trd , stiffer chassis and handling package, if u can maintain momentum around turns to avoid braking then regen brake battery and prakepad life increase and better fuel economy and once in a while steering feedback from bump on road is nice to keep drivers attention. cut weight from aesthetics to make up for weight gain, prius is bigger than corrolla but less still more mpg, make car smaller. lot more can be said...
It's not how hard you are on the gas pedal that matters for economy, it's how hard you are on the brakes that really matters.
So I know that being hard on the brakes is bad for fuel economy as opposed to letting off the throttle and gently coming to a stop, but can you explain to me why you think hard braking is worse than flooring it/hard driving?
@@MeynMotorGroup So a quick disclaimer, how fast you accelerate does make a slight difference in fuel economy, but ultimately, a combustion engine converts fuel to heat and kinetic energy with some ratio, and that ratio is the thermal efficiency. Modern vehicles (drive by wire equipped and to an extent all fuel injected) with automatic transmissions tend to keep the engine at the rpm that is closest to maximizing the thermal efficiency for the amount of power requested by the driver. The thermal efficiency curve (when isolated to only the combination of engine load and speed that yields the maximum, so we ignore situations like flooring it at 1100 rpm and barely touching the gas at 5500 rpm) has a peak usually around 2000-2500 and the area around it tapers off slowly. So you actually get the most bang for your buck when you are driving with a decently high engine load at around 2000-2500 rpm. That is, you get the most kinetic energy from your gasoline. The more you deviate from that range, the more heat you produce rather than motion that goes to the wheels, so yes, driving very hard does cost you a little more fuel.
The main reason rate of accelerating doesn't change efficiency very much is that it takes a relatively constant amount of fuel to pick up a certain amount of momentum, to bring the vehicle from one speed to another. Once you produce that momentum, you can hypothetically coast on that momentum for quite a distance. Not forever obviously, friction and air resistance will always slow you down, but you can travel approximately between 1 and 2 MPH^2 in feet on flat ground. For example, if you're going 70 MPH, you should be able to travel between 4900 and 9800 ft on momentum alone if there is not a hill to slow you down or speed you up, and nothing like wind resistance. Low drag vehicles (fwd sedans, etc) will be on the higher end and high drag vehicles (4x4 suvs, trucks, etc) will be on the lower end. This is assuming wheel horsepower is 0. When the car is idling and the automatic transmission is in gear, at speeds below 4 mph, wheel horsepower is between 2-10 depending on the engine/trans, so we assume that car is shifted to neutral around that speed.
If you floor a 4 cylinder midsize car and get up to 70 MPH, you'll travel roughly 1000 ft in 14 seconds burning an average of 8.0 gallons of fuel per hour, and burn roughly 0.03 total gallons of fuel. At the instant you reach 1000 ft distance traveled, you have an efficiency of 6.3 MPG, and if you were to immediatley slam the brakes and come to a screeching halt after 200 ft, you'll have traveled 1200 ft total and burned a trivial amount over 0.03 gallons, for an overall efficiency of 7.6 MPG. If you were to immediately release the gas and coast 9800 ft, you'll have traveled 10800 ft total and burned again a trivial amount over 0.03 gallons, this time a touch more because the engine will have spent much more time below the speed where it must inject fuel, so closer to 0.033 gallons this time (adding 0.3 GPH x 40 seconds of idling). But your efficiency in this scenario would be 62.0 MPG. 62.0 MPG sounds high, but we are talking about a pulse and glide type of driving where you are not wasting any energy through the brakes, so on a treadmill, this type of economy is not ridiculous when employing this technique on a low drag midsize car. The reason you will never see 62 on tank, is because cars do cold starts, they idle, run accessories, you have to brake for traffic, you have to park, etc. All those things add up.
Now let's say you accelerate gingerly to 70 MPH, maybe 1/2 throttle where you keep the engine RPM between 2500-3000 RPM. You'll have traveled 2000 ft this time and burned an average of 3 gallons of fuel per hour for approximately 30 seconds, and burned a total of 0.025 gallons. At the instant you reach 70 MPH, you'll have an average of 15.2 MPG, and if you slammed the brakes similar to the scenario above and slowed to 0 in 200 ft, you'll have an MPG of 16.7. If you instead didn't brake at all and coasted down to a stop taking 9800 ft to do so, you would have burned about 0.028 gallons but travelled 11800 ft, for an average MPG of 79.8.
When you compare braking as hard as possible to not braking at all, the difference between full throttle acceleration and accelerating gingerly was +120%, but the difference between accelerating gingerly and full throttle when not braking at all, was only +29%. *When you don't brake, the amount of additional fuel you use by accelerating in the most wasteful manner possible compared to using the engine in it's most efficient operating range is only about 30%.* The more you brake and the harder you brake, the bigger the delta.
It's actually more efficient to floor a car up to speed, and let off the gas and coast to a stop than it is to accelerate really slowly and then slam the brakes at the last second. In general, you want to brake as little as possible to save as much fuel as possible. This can be achieved by increasing your following distance between yourself and the traffic ahead, and "defending" that following distance by releasing the accelerator pedal once you see traffic slowing down. You also have to learn how to coast. The distance you can travel increases with the square of your speed, so you can coast 4x farther at 2x the speed. Not only will you save gas with this method of driving, but it's also safer since you are paying more attention to what's ahead of you, you're increasing your following distance, and you're also saving wear on your brakes.
Whenever you brake, you are wasting energy that the engine has already converted from fuel, and must replace again with more fuel. Whenever you coast, you are mostly driving for free. As you saw in my example above, the most extreme difference in braking vs coasting was between 380% - 715% (62/7.6 -1 and 79.8/16.7 -1), whereas the simple difference between medium and fast acceleration was 29% - 120%. This is why I say how you brake is more important than how you accelerate for economy.
It is extremely wasteful to accelerate quickly in a short distance and immediately slow down than it is to accelerate slowly and not have as much momentum to start with and therefore have created less momentum and therefore used less fuel before needing to slow down. This is mainly where the concept that accelerating hard does damage to fuel economy comes from. If you have 2000 ft to travel from stop sign to stop sign, you can pick up a lot more momentum and therefore burn a lot more fuel in that distance if you accelerate quickly rather than accelerate slowly. But if your goal is to get up to speed and coast without using brakes at all, it doesn't matter much how fast you pick up speed since that's a tiny portion of the distance you will end up traveling.
If you watch my borning, low production quality videos, you'll notice that I tend to accelerate rapidly from a stop but I am very slow to decelerate if traffic allows and I get at least 50% better than EPA ratings on all my vehicles.
You put so much effort into this response thank you, I read the whole thing. I see what you’re saying if there’s not too many stop signs coming up it doesn’t really matter if you floor and just start costing but braking destroys the momentum the engine has already built. I’m going to pin this conversation to the top, I hope people read it and thank you for taking the time to share this on my video.
@@MeynMotorGroup That's exactly right, and it was my pleasure sharing this, and thanks for the pin.
Appreciate you my friend
based on how I see people drive on the highway....clearly fuel economy is not the priority
That’s a fact
Solid video and spot on Kevin... I drove to Spartanburg in the IS and exceeded the window MPG but I needed clear traffic, ECO mode, and cruise control. Needless to say it was boring as hell and that V8 wants to run.
Oh yes you bought an IS 500 right? And yea definitely boring to drive efficiently 😅
@@MeynMotorGroup I honestly don't see selling it for anything on the road. Manual mode, Sport+ and paddles really give it a Dr. Jekyll/My Hyde effect
What's the hack?
@@ociabi I used cruise control, ECO mode, and the roads were pretty clear... but when the Benz and Camaro came along, the MPGs went wayyy down
This is the lc300 in tuxedo and by far the best ride u get in the US , doesn’t care about the mileage but u will get pretty decent mileage than the v8 , it’s the built quality and it’s made in japan that all it matters to this suv if ur keeping it for long time !!!
Sadly they really dropped the quality on new vehicles. This gets maybe an MPG or 2 better than the V8
I still don't know why Lexus don't bring the Lexus LX diesel to the USA, if the American manufacturers have diesels in their trucks
Informative video! I would have added that driving at or slightly below the speed limit at highway speeds drastically improves efficiency. I was able to achieve 42 mpg on my Honda HR-V by driving like a grandpa and staying at or below the speed limit. This was mostly done on a Highway loop. You made a good point about turbocharged engines- the key is to stay out of the turbos which is difficult. I was able to achieve slightly over 25 mpg on a GMC Sierra 2.7 turbo by driving carefully on the highway. Drafting behind tractor trailers didn’t hurt either. Not the safest thing to do as it requires the driver to pay close attention. Drive at your own risk!
That is a great point Jason regarding high way driving that you mentioned, driving a bit slower helps a ton as you mentioned and drafting. But yes draft at your own risk 😅 but those tips do make a difference thank you I will be sure to mention this on the next MPG vid
turbos are not really for more mpg, there for lower emissions
@@kalmmonke5037 Turbocharged engines produce lower emissions BECAUSE they burn less fuel. Automakers have CAFE standards (fuel economy) and emissions standards (CO2). Smaller turbocharged engines achieve both better MPG and CO2 numbers. Saying small turbocharged engines are made solely because of emissions is inaccurate. Both factors play a part. Maybe it’s different in your country.
Hey Kevin, how does this drivetrain compare to the LS 500 you drove? You didn't mention any lag on your LS 500 review.
Feels smoother and more refined in the LS this is essentially a truck different tuning I guess
Great video Kevin, thank you.
Appreciate you my friend, working on the 2022 CX-9 review next
Great tips for mileage, I wonder if this twin turbo is the same as the LS500, I would presume so. The slippery LS500 returns excellent mileage on the highway and or with a light foot. The Toyota 5.7 is just so good, maybe not on fuel, but in every other way. I was in my friends 21 Tundra a couple weeks ago, it is just magnificent. The V8s are going to be gone, the turbo and or twin turbo sixes are just the popcorn on the trail to EV I'm afraid. The good V8s, my favorite being the last GM LS, and Toyota 5.7 are just the best driving experience in creamy torque that will ever be and is now extinct. Turbos do not like aggressive driving is very true. Most people buying the LX600 or LS500 are probably not driving aggressively, I think my LS has been "floored" a few times when my bride was not present. Great review, keep em coming, I'm still road tripping a last year Trans Am, loving it.
So true my friend the 2021 Tundra is super underrated I’m glad you appreciate it and understand it.
But yes I do think the new Tundra & this LX use some variant of the LS 500 engine but with different tuning and capabilities but yea LS is way more aerodynamic and less weight so much better gas mileage.
I’m so glad you’re enjoying that Trans Am right now such an epic purchase sir. And I’m super humbled by the support you show me on this channel! Thank you
I love your channel, I never know what your doing next, keep up the great work.
I love how lexus went with a V6 🙌on this model but they shouldn't have added the turbo on it😥. I do like the 5MPG gain though its a good upgrade from the V8🔥🔥🔥. I wanted to ask how did it feel when it comes to handling and cornering?
Some other tips, don't carry any unnecessary items in the car, extra weight = more fuel, try and imagine your throttle pedal as connected to your wallet and everytime you push it it's pulling dollar bills from it, and coast whenever going down hill, take your foot off the gas, and you'll be surprised at the difference these little things can make!
So true my friend keeping unnecessary junk in the car is not going to help vehicle performance across the board. Just spoke to another individual and was saying it doesn’t really matter if you floor it as long as you know you can coast down the road for a while since coasting is almost free driving. Thanks for sharing/watching!
Hi, Kevin. question for you: i went into my local LEXUS dealership last week to pay cash for a 2022 ES350 & was shocked when my salesman refused to go down one penny for that auto. cash paid in full, no discount !! i walked. looks like i'm going to continue driving my 2009 ES350. Advise, please.
Yea almost everyone is charging MSRP no more discounts most dealers are charging over MSRP. I’m partnered with a company known as LeaseCompanion (link in the description) you can get like 4% off MSRP but you might have to wait to have the vehicle built.
You can ask them what the ES availability is they are located on Washington DC but you can have the car shipped for a price. If you are going to go down that path, I would go for an ES300h since it is equally as smooth but gets 40 mpg city and highway
Thank you,! I
thank you Kevin but I think that MPG is not the most important thing for customers where buy this heavy brick.
He acknowledged this and specifically mentioned this applies to every vehicle.
@@jasonbornne7767 yes thank you.
Yea Alex you’re right 😅 MPG is probably not a big deal for the core demographic that buys a Six figure daily
0:57 I think you meant to say 91 octane. 95 octane is pretty much racing fuel lol
No the Lexus press media spec sheet actually says 95 octane. 97 is typically sold at BP and Shell as premium but 93 is the most common premium fuel you can find
@@MeynMotorGroup You're right I found the Press spec sheet and it indeed says 95 or more.
I only thought it was 91 for the minumum amount because it says it somewhere on th lexus website.
Actually you made a good point so sometimes you can’t always trust what the press media site says or the website because occasionally the information contradicts itself but what can we do right. We rely on the manufactures for accurate spec sheet reporting because after all, they made the car right. But even they report the wrong figures so it’s pretty messed up but it is what it is.
@@MeynMotorGroup So i just found out that Octane in Europe has different rating measurements than in US.
So 95 octane in Europe is the same as 91 octane in the US.
So yeah i think the spec sheet are going by EU or universal Ron measurements rather than the US octane measurements
Thank you so much for sharing this. Yea that kind of adds up, strange that Toyota would use a different standard of measure for the states but it’s possible and your explanation makes sense
Drive like a maniac ( with all the safety elements) once or twice in a month, especially for a turbo car else it will be a junk within fee years. These vehicles need to hit red line once in a while to get that engine tuned to achieve maximum performance through out the ownership years.
8:05 emissions
We will see how much people miss the V8 when those turbos start going out at 150000 miles. 🤣🤣
People who own 6 figure daily’s aren’t petty enough to keep it til 150k miles. They would have had 5 cars by that time and probably made money on a couple of those cars. They operate on another level.
Clearly if you have the money to afford this truck, gas budget is not much of a concern.
In lexus lx 570 if you put 300,000 km on it it will cost you 82k dollars minimum. so for 10 years 90k considering you get ppf and anti rust. So it does matter unless you have a net worth of 10 million or more.
Finishing up on your last video bro lol will comment when done 🤝😎
Appreciate you bro, yea that was a long one for sure definitely feel free to skip around 😅
@@MeynMotorGroup Lol ima watch it all bro 🤝😎
Is this your own ride? Congrats! LX600 is not up to the mark of GLS or X7 in terms of overall comfort, driving dynamics, features and tech. Was cross shopping this vs the X7 M50i/GLS580 and went with X7. Leased it. Lexus target market is not US or NA - but purely Asia, ME and other less developed places. In the middle of the desert or outback, no X7 or GLS or Defender will be trusted like a Lexus or Landcruiser. The only other reliable 4x4 is G63 AMG but it is 2x the cost. There is a mod for this engine available in Asia - makes ~ 90 more HP and 75 lbf of torque.
No it’s a press car from the manufacturer to test for a week
First off..the X7 isn't in the class of the GLS, and definitely the GLS Amg. I've driven both, I kept the LX 600. The LX 600 is a truck in frame, and it's fast as heck. The X7 is an amazing family hauler. The LX 600 is more directly compared to the Range Rover. It's not a family hauler though there's a 3rd row.
I hyper-mile a lot!
Bossmobile
Drive less and you’ll get better gas mileage on any vehicle.
That’s a fact. It’s too bad real estate is sky high in desirable areas because now people can’t even rent/move closer to where they work
Yo bro
Hope you’ve had a phenomenal weekend my friend
@@MeynMotorGroup Yup bro hope u did as well bro thanx 🤝😎
2022 Lexus LX600 Review.. EVERYTHING You Need To Know
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prius prime gets more mpge than any tesla and its rare to run on cleanly made elecriticty and batteries are dug out the ground not recyled bc each recyle weakens battery to point where it can be only be used in building like solutions, then its trashed soon. battery degrradation lifetime cost. if e fuels and hydrogen combustion come it can adapt. japan has prius trd , stiffer chassis and handling package, if u can maintain momentum around turns to avoid braking then regen brake battery and prakepad life increase and better fuel economy and once in a while steering feedback from bump on road is nice to keep drivers attention. cut weight from aesthetics to make up for weight gain, prius is bigger than corrolla but less still more mpg, make car smaller. lot more can be said...
see if prius prime is all that loud inside,wil you still want lexus es?
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Shame on Toyota for making such a gas hog in this day and age. Toyota does not car about pollution only about recycling old engines in new vehicles
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