Episode 31 - The History and Watches of Breitling
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2018
- Breitling has always been a brand associated wth aviation; pioneering the Pilot's watch far beyond a simple "large dial with clear numbers format. " Anyone who's ever watched an air show, or a Red Bull Air Race event, will have seen Breitling's racing planes taking home wins. Since 1884, Breitling has been obsessed with moving forward the art of precision chronometry, function, and, more recently, safety, with their innovative "Emergency" series of locator beacon-equipped wrist watches. Breitling has shown some innovative technologies, interesting designs, and passion for extreme human activities, which makes their story very interesting.
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Every watch guy's dream is to remove that "Do not unscrew" screw at the back of a Bell&Ross and the emergency pull of a Breitling emergency watch :)
Just Started the episode with my cuppa coffee in hand.
This is quickly becoming my favourite hour of the week
You guys should do a episode on the rise and fall of watch brands that horologist hate. Brands like movado and invicta that were once real watch manufactures and Respected but their ethos changed and degraded the company. Then objectively elaborate on as to why their products aren't good anymore. And finally elaborate on some of the good attributes if theres any.
That would have been awesome.
No mention of Sinn and the Navitimer? Helmut Sinn bought the rights to the Navitimer and apparently is responsible for keeping Breitling afloat, and still produce they're version of the Navitimer to this day (the 903).
Nor Sicura sadly. But that’s details…
It's funny how almost every episode you work in a way to shit on Omega and space 😂😂👍
That's because every brand we research, we learn they all beat Omega to space, they just didn't make a BFD about it for 50 years.
@@TheSmokingTire no argument here I totally agree!
Understand were you're coming from, but none of them got theirs on the moon and that's where most of the Omega dick waving comes from.
@@TheSmokingTire Crazy, I've only discovered this channel a few months ago and I miss the shit out of it. You guys did an incredible job.
Love the podcast guys!
Solid episode! Cheers.
Top Gear did a fun episode on the Emergency where James was stuck in a forest. Only problem was that they arranged it that the emergency center dispatched Clarkson and Hammond to rescue him lol
Matt Wasilewicz Rhat was a really, really good one.
Matt Wasilewicz That was Hammond on a snowy mountainside. Jeremy drove a Ford Raptor, James drove a Silverado 2500.
Ahh you are right. It has been a few years since I saw that one.
I bought my dad a vintage Breitling chronograph, 37mm, manually wound Valjoux 7733 movement, gold case, champagne dial, bright sunburst blue subdials. The thing is so awesome. I wish I still had it, lol. Anyways, vintage Breitling is under appreciated.
The Sinn 903 is another watch to mention during the time when Breitling was selling off assets. They sold the rights to the Navitimer to Sinn which then made the 903. It looks exactly the same and is still made today albeit slightly different.
My favorite watch logo is Breitling
not anymore....
@@mattwasilewicz9677 yah.. wings gone with Georges Kern and CVC.. I started out a Breitling collector, but they've really lost the plot now, with the Navi8 quartz and such..
The thing with the frequency: the 121,5 is still the emergency radio frequency in civil aviation. But the frequency isn't scanned by satellites anymore, they switched to 406 MHz So the new Breitling Emergency watches can send their beacon signal on a freuqency which is picked up by satellites around the world and doesn't interferre with the civil aviation emergency frequency which may also be used for talking. (sometimes it is suggested for planes to switch spare radio equipment to 121,5 so that if they "miss" their supposed frequency they can be reached.)
Isn't the Breitling Emergency the watch that featured on Top Gear? The one where Hammond was pushed out of a helo in Canada and James and Jeremy had to rescue him in trucks....
Great review on the history of the company, love the concept of the emergency but I think you guys forgot to mention when sinn bought out the rights to the navitmer hence the sinn903 being born with exact looks of the navi
That's right. When Breitling was shutting down operations Helmut Sinn purchased the rights to the Navitimer and Ollech & Wajs purchased the parts inventory. So there are some identical Navitimer watches from that time period that even use Breitling signed parts with no Breitling name on the dials. The Sinn 903 is now simply called The Navigation Chronograph but still looks the same.
I have a u1 and waiting now on a 104 to be delivered looking at a 903 one of these days to :)
Top Gear or Grand Tour (I forget which) did an episode featured around the Emergency. If I remember correctly they show Crash Bandicoot pulling out the beacon.
Panerai next time?
Great episode but.. Forgot about maybe the most important piece, the original Chronomat and inspiration for the later Navitimer. Also the bullet bracelet does not extend, it has a butterfly clasp.
Brushed past the Transocean! Must be the most under appreciated watch made by Breitling!
Keep up the good work, gentlemen, I vote for Zenith or JLC next...
I've always liked Breitling, except for the horrible Bentley watches. A Chronomat was my first luxury watch I bought, and I still enjoy it to this day. Not a fan of the new wingless logo though, it looks exactly like a Breguet "B"
@@The_Greg_5000 well my chronomat is my largest watch at 44mm, but the dial is all black and not very flashy. The Bentleys are pretty much all gigantic and gaudy looking IMO. I also dont tend to normally be a fan of in your face brand collaboration. Mostly I really like my chronomat though because it is chunky and solid as hell. I can do harsher activities with it and not think about damaging it, where as I would never do some of that stuff with it watches
I hear ya, I just for some reason like my Chronomat, but there are however some really ugly versions of it. However, my taste has changed a lot since I purchased it, and I have definitely moved towards a more classic styling in watches I go after.
I like the design of the Bentley watches, especially the ornate bezels. But they’re just ridiculously big.
I'm into watches for about half a year or so. I dont know anything about them but I like some of them. Along side a few others from other brands, I WANT a Super Avenger 2. So far I've been told by watch guys that Breitling is "meh..." But I love that watch. Can you approve or disapprove on that one on one of your future shows? Cheers.
Jean Claude Killy won 3 olympic gold medals and 6 world championships in skiing. So one could say he was a pretty successfull athlete. (And the best french ski racer until 2016)
I think the prettiest Breitling is the Headwind, a not so known line!!!
Love that navitimer heritage
Next, history of Squale.
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34:54 Emergency 👌
Eh, the Omega and Space thing is no different than people believing that the iPhone was the first smartphone to market or the Demon as the world's fastest production car. The latter really only applies to American cars and specific parameters to call it that. Luminox brands itself as the watch for Navy Seals, but most just wear a $30 G-Shock. Milspec is something that people go nuts over when they hear it, but Milspec is just a standard and doesn't mean "the best". It's marketing, stuff with stories sell better than those without. I would say 95% of people with a dive watch have never been in more than 10ft of water with it. 50M water resistance is plenty for the vast majority of people who actually dive, but everyone and their mother wants a 200M+ rating on them.
Does anyone think the iPhone was the first smart phone or the Demon is the fastest production car? Those are just like, lies. I don't think anyone's ever tried to sell those to me.
I've never not known a Bigfoot-like lummox of a man who does not have flat feet.
I'd love to see a history of Timex episode!
Still waiting foe Farah to tak3 out the do not unscrew bell screw.
2250 isn't cheap matt... it's more than all my watches combined
We are playing in economies of scale here. Watches are an expensive hobby, and prices discussed are all relative. $2250 for a brand-name swiss-made dive watch is very reasonable. I'm sorry that not everyone can afford it, but a Mustang GT is cheap speed, and not everyone has $35k for one of those either.
@@TheSmokingTire it is expensive but it can also be relative. Microbrands than use seiko/miyota movements can have incredibly comparable specs for 1/10th the price or less. You cant forget that you are rich or sound it compared to many of your audience
I dunno, 2k is pretty inexpensive when looking at luxury watches. I wouldn't consider a micro brand with a Seiko movement to be a luxury watch, but more like a respectable every wearer that is not a quartz. A Rolex Sub is typically a good benchmark to base luxury watch prices from since it is so universal no matter where you go. Considering that diver is a fifth the price of a Sub, I would definitely agree that it is both inexpensive, and good value.
@@mattwasilewicz9677 any watch is a luxury in smart phone era. I have a 300m diver with all the specs youd expect from a rolex except for the seiko movement in it and it cost less than $250. I also have a seiko presage that Matt has even had on this show with identical specs to a $3000 heuer even in materials but costs almost 1/10th. It just isn't handmade and saying swiss on it. 2000 is still expensive regardless but relative to other swiss brands sure its cheap but those advertise a ton more than any microbrand would. But plenty had more interesting materials or designs that still make them unmistakably luxury items. Zelos for example are all under 1k but many even come with meteorite dials. That is truly luxury level but again far below that breitling you call cheap. Names carry too much weight in watch pricing
@@fondajames I definitely agree with you that you can buy a lot of watch for under $500. And yes it's all relative to what you are comparing them to. The point I believe he was trying to make in the video is that for that particular watch, when compared to what else is out there in the luxury market, it definitely represents good value and is inexpensive by comparison. Compare that watch to a Sub or a Fify Fathoms diver, and you definitely have a value proposition. And absolutely, when buying a luxury watch you are also buying the name, prestige, and everything else that goes along with it. The more you spend, you typically start to get more, like finishing qualities, bracket and clasp fit and finish, and even hand finishing when you get into the bug bucks. Same reason everyone always says a Corvette is cheap performance and good value, because when compared to a Ferarri you get a lot of the same performance for 1/4 the price.
It would be nice if you guys knew what you were talking about when it came to the Emergency. You clearly don't. You might be "experts" on other watches, but you failed miserably here. The Emergency is too cool a watch to get the facts wrong. And I'm a pilot, and I wear it on the street.
One of the best watch brands . The word “HUGE” is a little dramatic . Also , you are a bigger guy 44mm-46mm will suit you better.
In all fairness to Breitling, they do have historical watches in the 48mm size range like the "Fried Egg" Chronomat from the 70's. So it is not totally off brand to be making some of the very large current day Breitlings like the Navitimer or Avenger in 48mm, or the Chronomat in 47mm.
1st watch in space was a POS soviet-factory Sturmanskie. Carpenter screwed the pooch on his 1/only mission AND splashed his Navitimer in the ocean, completely trashing it. Next mission up Wally Schirra wore a Speedmaster, next after that Gordon Cooper wore an Accutron Astronaut. Some GMT Masters flew to the moon but not strapped to the outside of a moonwalking spacesuit. No monopoly on spaces watches at all.
Back to over 3 minutes of an intro again I see 👎🏼
I don't understand this - we have 2 ads; the same 2 ads we have had the entire time: Crown & Caliber and Bee Line Coffee. Then I spend 30-45 seconds intro-ing the topic. Literally nothing has changed. occasionally it's 2 minutes 40, occasionally it's 3 minutes 20. Either way, you can very, very easily skip through the ads if you don't want to listen to them, and on RUclips you have tons of visual cues to boot. I have literally zero sympathy for someone who counts the seconds when we deliver a 90 minute+ show with 3 minutes of ads right at the beginning.
Ignore the haters, Matt. I love the podcast, and without the ads/sponsors, I doubt we'd get them for free.
TheSmokingTire was going to order some coffee and watches, but never mind!