I started watching Jason England's tutorial on the bottom deal 9 months ago. I saw this buckling technique and seeing how much he had emphasised the importance of perfecting this technique before moving on to the newer and 'better' technique without the risk of a knuckle flash, I began to practice without even watching the rest of the tutorial video. However, I never managed to get how it is done. When I buckled the bottom card and pushed it out, the deck would seem to move out of my grip. Since I couldn't even hold the deck in a proper mechanics grip, my thumb was unable to even push over the top card, and needless to say I never managed to get it. I stopped practicing because it was so annoying to be unable to do it... that is until now. Watching this video I realised I was buckling waaaay to hard and waaaay to much. I'm beginning to get a feel of how this should be done. It should be done with the most flair, with the least force, and with the fastest speed, all in the motion of pushing the top card. I must thank you once again, TheRussianGenius, for yet again giving me another reason to touch my playing cards :) You certainly are very dexterous with cards and are probably one of the most dexterous when compared to people fo your age. I guess it is time for me to hold off learning the other sleights that you have uploaded and instead focus on this one, the one move that defines the artifice at the gambling table. P.S Hope you're doing well in school! it must be very demanding for you to upload videos even though you study at boarding school!
Again, I like. I have learned two other ways to bottom deal. There are many methods of doing this. When learning this deal. Find which method works best. Which deal feels comfortable . Very good tutorial. Thanks, TRG.
Thank u i got it in like 10min :) only one tip for all the others,when u dealing the bottom card push the top card a bit forward like u would dealing the top card👍🏼
Jesus, why did one of the best mechanics on YT have ta be a fuggin SOUTHPAW. Rrrrrgggghhhhh! At least my horrid luck is consistent. I had to join a different Patreon card academy because of it. But, Oi, Vladi! At least you were my first choice, right? (No. Left.)
Hi, your explanation is perfect, thank you very much. But I'd want to ask you, how much time have you spent to learn this? Sorry for my English, I am Italian 😊
TheRussianGenius ok, but I can't understand something, because when I buckle the bottom card, the inner left corner ends under the deck and I can't push off the bottom card with the middle finger, do you know why this thing happen? Keep income that I'm right handed, so I keep the deck with the left hand
.. just started to get into cardistry .. your channel has soo much information it will take me years to do what you have posted ... Thank you so much for sharing .. sub'd and liked ... will check out your facebook too down the road ...
+TheRussianGenius I was wondering .. currently you have separated your channel by beginner-int-adv .. and others.. is it possible to also seperate with in these sections, type of trick .. like prediction-color change - story based- self working-set up-finding card-fire .. srry i am still a noob .. i guess a faster search way for a particular type of trick ... also any advice on how to make a routine .. when some tricks need set-up ... how the heck do u do it ??? without fumbling around making people wait ... again thanks in advance .. I am new to this ..
Are you naturally right or left handed? I am a natural right hander, so I normally deal by holding the cards in my left hand. Does it makes sense to practice the bottom deal the same way? Or does it help to hold it in my dominant (i.e. right hand) as there is more work to be done by the holding hand than the dealing hand? Thanks in advance for any advice!
Nihal Nair I learned it by holding the left hand (the one that takes the card) over the deck (and gripping the hole deck) and from there I would do the buckle. In that way, the cards don't slip away and stay in your hand. When you feel ready, U can release with your left hand. I just saw that your post is from 2 years ago, so I don't think it will help you now. (maybe other people who have that problem can)
7 S you may or may not see this, but how did you know you were comfortable with the move when you did it as you held the deck. I feel like I can do it fluently but then once I do it with one hand I fail miserably and I push out the whole deck.
look up ed marlo, "the cigar bottom deal" the way you're doing it your dealing hand moves weird, and a gambler would see you kicking the bottom card off the deck...
I liked the method of this bottom deal ,but it is extremely angel sensitive.This is a good bottom deal for beginners and it will do if performing for a spectator/spectators where you have control of the angles,nevertheless this is not a deal to do at a card table.The best bottom deal for card tables is Daniel Maddeson's
+Elite magic I never liked Daniel Madison's bottom deal. This is the cleanest way of doing the bottom deal. This is not for beginners, beginners have easier ways of doing the bottom deal. This is not angle sensitive if you buckle slowly with your finger without doing big movements. Here's a video of my doing the bottom deal from the worst possible angle: instagram.com/p/9B6zG1QwgY/?taken-by=therussiangenius
+Elite magic I beg to differ. 2 years ago when I was 15 I came up with my own method for bottom dealing that was based off this. I use to hang around with a rough bunch of kids and I ended up using my skills as a card cheat at the card table. I only ever did it in 2 games after almost being caught. during this time I have had enough experience to say that this has to be one of the best methods for the bottom deal. I'm currently in the process of relearning the bottom deal because I found too many problems with the method I came up with. this method is based off the erdnase method which is seen as the 'original' to a certain extent. this is the most surefire and the safest method of bottom dealing out there. the only thing I would change would be to use the joints of the fingers for the push out instead of the tips. it reduces the chance of any flash. definitely would work at the table 100% guaranteed.
+Elite magic Madison's method is definitely not the method to use when it comes to the table. it works for him but its not very good for other!people because he designed it for his needs.
Please help QAQ When i try to buckle the bottom card there is an incredible high chance that the second bottom would come with it or even replaces itself being one pushed out, how do I avoid that?
After you buckle the card i don't understand how you push the card forward? Like when i try it the cards tend to stick together and i basically just push the whole deck forward.. tips?
I haven't just picked up a deck and practised this just now? I've been trying to learn the bottom deal for a while,its just that no one goes into detail about taking the card and pushing it forward..
Le Joshy Like Marin says its just practice. I had the same problem as you for 2-5 weeks I remember. Just practice, try holding the deck lighter, tighter, try buckling the card slower, try starting out with half of the deck. Make sure your finger is not dry, it will feel like it's impossible if so. Why no one is going into detail in buckling the card is because it's a move that doesn't have much detail to talk about, its just pulling your middle finger downwards to buckle it. A lot of magicians they use that buckle on the bottom deck to get a pinky break below the bottom card(s) It was easier for me to learn it cause I used it as a move to get a break below the bottom card when I started doing magic.
I'm digging the new T-shirts! hey, you should add Kardsharp to your recommendations. That guy is a total bad ass and nobody knows him. here is his bottom deal. ruclips.net/video/MzmFiduVxec/видео.html
+sm Mr. setup = 4 aces on top, the 4th ace down is face up, double lift the top two and slide them apart, have a pinky break between 3rd and 4th and do the chinese deal(not exactly what it is i forget the name) to lift the 3rd card over, revealing the fourth two. If you set it up yourself you'll soon figure it out (ace, ace, ace, faceup ace)
Good tutorial but I think You should Mention that it takes years to get Good at bottom Deals :) and Talking About Rhythm ;) p.s. I learned bottom dealing from jason England too :) an sorry for my English :D
I find it interesting how people would call me left handed when most of my card stuff is done with the right hand, but I understand what you mean. I feel like there's a misunderstanding in magic when it comes to which hand is which, cause I'm right handed in everything I do besides magic.
There's websites which will mirror flip YT videos so it looks the correct way around for you, I don't want to leave a link in case the spam filter picks it up but just google "mirror flip youtube video"
The bad part of this style of bottom dealing, is that you flash your knuckles and also, that the sound of the bottom deal is different. Probablt a lay person won't notice that tho
Juan José Fonseca Godoy Check out my bottom deal in this, where I use the same technique. ruclips.net/video/gZCUwVOKDU8/видео.html The bottom deal is at the end of the video.
TheRussianGenius I can see you flashing your knuckles. What about the sound of the cards when they are dealt? Right now I'm learning Daniel Madison's bottom deal, which is a bit harder, but you don't flash your knuckles and also the sound of the cards is the same than with a fair deal
Juan José Fonseca Godoy You can clear the sound by pulling the card parallel to the table instead of upwards like most magicians. You can not do the Daniel Madison's bottom with an old deck, that is where this bottom deal comes handy.
Sr. Asnoman he has a DVD called "Mechanic" from ellusonist. Pretty cool stuff. It's supposed to be moves that you could use in an actual poker game to cheat, but don't believe that. They're good for magic, but for poker you'll probably get your fingers broken.
Ok no offense but at the beginning when you lifted all four aces off the top of the deck I was like legit shocked when you started to pretend it was one card. I honestly thought you wanted us to see you pick up the four aces.
The intro where I talk about the move with the performance is the first 1 min and 17 seconds, not long at all, and there are two different performances. I'm actually done teaching the move at around the 5-6 minute mark, but still I talk a bid more to give few tips and go a little bid more in dept. Yes, I could and I try to make videos under 5 minutes, my last few magic tutorials have been under 5 minutes as well, but if I do it I will then also do a Part 2 video in the future where I give tips on the moves cause 5 minutes it not always enough. 5 minutes it not enough on the bottom deal, it can be enough on the other moves as Marlo Tilt, One Handed Cut, Double Lift, but not Bottom Deal! :)
Yeah, I'm not saying like you talk too much or anything, just giving suggestion that I think is better for us to learn because we as the audiences can always go back and replay some details so you don't have to repeat the explanation, at least that's what I do. Thanks for replying tho.
Sorry to rain on anyone's parade here, but this is NOT the method taught by Jason England. So don't think you're getting that for free. I dunno where this method comes from, but it's full of problems. Go buy Jason England's video, its not expensive, and it teaches it properly.
My fucking fingers are too long for that... I can't do that grip :( Either the deck is hovering like 2 inch in the air away from my hand or if my deck is laying in my hand, my fingers touch the deck at the second to third joint :(
Wary nice moov.
Ahhahaha
Indeed, Tovarisch.
Werily, indeed!
I started watching Jason England's tutorial on the bottom deal 9 months ago. I saw this buckling technique and seeing how much he had emphasised the importance of perfecting this technique before moving on to the newer and 'better' technique without the risk of a knuckle flash, I began to practice without even watching the rest of the tutorial video. However, I never managed to get how it is done. When I buckled the bottom card and pushed it out, the deck would seem to move out of my grip. Since I couldn't even hold the deck in a proper mechanics grip, my thumb was unable to even push over the top card, and needless to say I never managed to get it. I stopped practicing because it was so annoying to be unable to do it... that is until now. Watching this video I realised I was buckling waaaay to hard and waaaay to much. I'm beginning to get a feel of how this should be done. It should be done with the most flair, with the least force, and with the fastest speed, all in the motion of pushing the top card. I must thank you once again, TheRussianGenius, for yet again giving me another reason to touch my playing cards :) You certainly are very dexterous with cards and are probably one of the most dexterous when compared to people fo your age. I guess it is time for me to hold off learning the other sleights that you have uploaded and instead focus on this one, the one move that defines the artifice at the gambling table.
P.S Hope you're doing well in school! it must be very demanding for you to upload videos even though you study at boarding school!
Thank you! Glad that you learned the deal!
Same problem here...
@@TheRussianGenius man where have you dissapeared you were my inspiration for magic left magic since you arent making any content
Again, I like. I have learned two other ways to bottom deal. There are many methods of doing this. When learning this deal. Find which method works best. Which deal feels comfortable . Very good tutorial. Thanks, TRG.
:)
That was pretty good with bordered cards!
First 30 seconds and I'm already discouraged. 😂 Those movements were very impressive!
More than 2 months waiting for this tutorial...and it's really great!! Thank you!!
Rounders brought me here. Don't get caught base dealing
Thank u i got it in like 10min :) only one tip for all the others,when u dealing the bottom card push the top card a bit forward like u would dealing the top card👍🏼
Lovbe to watch yo ur tutorials ,every time learn something neq.For beginner like me that is gold ..Tnx man wish to you all best .
To really show the effect of bottom dealing, you could demonstrate what it looks like at speed with all the cards facing up.
Guys u r just amazing! thanks for waking up my talent of cardistry again! 😊
U guys are doing flawless card tricks
but this isnt cardistry....
Just got recommended from youtube after 5 years exactly when I needed it
Same here
your so smooth with your card handling!
That was a great tutorial
This is really nice. I love adding to my collection of tricks to use on my family ;)
Jesus, why did one of the best mechanics on YT have ta be a fuggin SOUTHPAW. Rrrrrgggghhhhh!
At least my horrid luck is consistent. I had to join a different Patreon card academy because of it. But, Oi, Vladi! At least you were my first choice, right? (No. Left.)
this looks so hard to finesse in a live game.
Don't use it in an actual game you WILL end up in the pool
how do you push the card out ??
Finally :) Love Your Work man
Thank you, means a lot!
Hi, your explanation is perfect, thank you very much.
But I'd want to ask you, how much time have you spent to learn this?
Sorry for my English, I am Italian 😊
Alessandro Finesso I learned the bottom deal in three weeks, but I've been doing it for 16 months now.
TheRussianGenius ok, but I can't understand something, because when I buckle the bottom card, the inner left corner ends under the deck and I can't push off the bottom card with the middle finger, do you know why this thing happen?
Keep income that I'm right handed, so I keep the deck with the left hand
Its just practice.
Thanks
Excellent description. You do that very well!
hello mr.russian genius...its janno...its brilliant tutorial...great..
haha I looked it up because i didnt understand the explanation in The Expert at the Card Table. Nice video
Thank you man, I like it :)
thanks for your all tutorial u are really great magician thanks a lot u giving me lot of tips thanks for that....:-) :-)
Can you deal seconds from the bottom in case someone insists on a cut card being used?
Great vid. I've definitly become a fan.
.. just started to get into cardistry .. your channel has soo much information it will take me years to do what you have posted ... Thank you so much for sharing .. sub'd and liked ... will check out your facebook too down the road ...
+Juan Leon Thanks Juan :)
There'll be shitloaded of more stuff on the channel.
+TheRussianGenius I was wondering .. currently you have separated your channel by beginner-int-adv .. and others.. is it possible to also seperate with in these sections, type of trick .. like prediction-color change - story based- self working-set up-finding card-fire .. srry i am still a noob .. i guess a faster search way for a particular type of trick ... also any advice on how to make a routine .. when some tricks need set-up ... how the heck do u do it ??? without fumbling around making people wait ... again thanks in advance .. I am new to this ..
Are you naturally right or left handed? I am a natural right hander, so I normally deal by holding the cards in my left hand. Does it makes sense to practice the bottom deal the same way? Or does it help to hold it in my dominant (i.e. right hand) as there is more work to be done by the holding hand than the dealing hand?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
my deck is slipping when I buckle the card.... how to avoid that?
Same here! 😩
dont buckle too long
Nihal Nair
I learned it by holding the left hand (the one that takes the card) over the deck (and gripping the hole deck) and from there I would do the buckle. In that way, the cards don't slip away and stay in your hand. When you feel ready, U can release with your left hand.
I just saw that your post is from 2 years ago, so I don't think it will help you now. (maybe other people who have that problem can)
7 S you may or may not see this, but how did you know you were comfortable with the move when you did it as you held the deck. I feel like I can do it fluently but then once I do it with one hand I fail miserably and I push out the whole deck.
Saludos amigo. Como se llama la música que suena cuando al principio haces el truco?? Gracias y espero tu respuesta. Saludos desde Argentina!!!
I love your videos!! Thank you.
Nice tutorial :)
look up ed marlo, "the cigar bottom deal"
the way you're doing it your dealing hand moves weird, and a gambler would see you kicking the bottom card off the deck...
Good job
I liked the method of this bottom deal ,but it is extremely angel sensitive.This is a good bottom deal for beginners and it will do if performing for a spectator/spectators where you have control of the angles,nevertheless this is not a deal to do at a card table.The best bottom deal for card tables is Daniel Maddeson's
+Elite magic I never liked Daniel Madison's bottom deal.
This is the cleanest way of doing the bottom deal.
This is not for beginners, beginners have easier ways of doing the bottom deal.
This is not angle sensitive if you buckle slowly with your finger without doing big movements.
Here's a video of my doing the bottom deal from the worst possible angle:
instagram.com/p/9B6zG1QwgY/?taken-by=therussiangenius
still not good for cheating at a cardtable
+Elite magic I beg to differ. 2 years ago when I was 15 I came up with my own method for bottom dealing that was based off this. I use to hang around with a rough bunch of kids and I ended up using my skills as a card cheat at the card table. I only ever did it in 2 games after almost being caught. during this time I have had enough experience to say that this has to be one of the best methods for the bottom deal. I'm currently in the process of relearning the bottom deal because I found too many problems with the method I came up with. this method is based off the erdnase method which is seen as the 'original' to a certain extent. this is the most surefire and the safest method of bottom dealing out there. the only thing I would change would be to use the joints of the fingers for the push out instead of the tips. it reduces the chance of any flash. definitely would work at the table 100% guaranteed.
+Elite magic Madison's method is definitely not the method to use when it comes to the table. it works for him but its not very good for other!people because he designed it for his needs.
This definitly not the cleanist way, that is one way, but not that cleanist, because you can see the knuckleflash
woah can u give a tutorial on the prodution at the start i'd be very greatful
Thanks You So Much BRO ❤️
really good bottom deal, but can you do consecutive bottoms?
Please help QAQ When i try to buckle the bottom card there is an incredible high chance that the second bottom would come with it or even replaces itself being one pushed out, how do I avoid that?
멋져요~👍🏽👍🏾👍🏻👍🏼👍🏿
After you buckle the card i don't understand how you push the card forward? Like when i try it the cards tend to stick together and i basically just push the whole deck forward.. tips?
Practise.
I haven't just picked up a deck and practised this just now? I've been trying to learn the bottom deal for a while,its just that no one goes into detail about taking the card and pushing it forward..
Le Joshy Like Marin says its just practice.
I had the same problem as you for 2-5 weeks I remember.
Just practice, try holding the deck lighter, tighter, try buckling the card slower, try starting out with half of the deck.
Make sure your finger is not dry, it will feel like it's impossible if so.
Why no one is going into detail in buckling the card is because it's a move that doesn't have much detail to talk about, its just pulling your middle finger downwards to buckle it.
A lot of magicians they use that buckle on the bottom deck to get a pinky break below the bottom card(s)
It was easier for me to learn it cause I used it as a move to get a break below the bottom card when I started doing magic.
What can you do to sort the finger flutter?
How to put the camera in this perspective
Awesome, haven't watched yet :3
Thank you! =3
That's good I like it
Great
Its ok. The issue is there is a huge tell. Even from the top angle I can see it. For magic it should be good
I'm digging the new T-shirts! hey, you should add Kardsharp to your recommendations. That guy is a total bad ass and nobody knows him. here is his bottom deal. ruclips.net/video/MzmFiduVxec/видео.html
This really helped. I deal left handed also. I believe the term is "buckling" not beveling.
I wanna know the ace production which u did at first.
+sm Mr. setup = 4 aces on top, the 4th ace down is face up, double lift the top two and slide them apart, have a pinky break between 3rd and 4th and do the chinese deal(not exactly what it is i forget the name) to lift the 3rd card over, revealing the fourth two. If you set it up yourself you'll soon figure it out
(ace, ace, ace, faceup ace)
+StuffedDom
thank u so much
very helpfuull thanks maan !!
Who else is here after watching Rounders?
Watching it right now 😂😂😂. I love this movie
Imma watch it afterwards
i love that and i looking foward to learn to be like you , so where or who should i contact please reply
Good tutorial but I think You should Mention that it takes years to get Good at bottom Deals :) and Talking About Rhythm ;) p.s. I learned bottom dealing from jason England too :) an sorry for my English :D
Your English is good.
TheRussianGenius really? Ok thanks :)
Whats the name of the song that you use when doing the bottom deal?
Try blindfolded and without movement from your right hand.
we thought someone at our card game was cheating. we installed cameras and caught him doing this
😂
He might have gotten away with it if he learned the proper bottom deal instead of whatever the fuck is being taught in this video haha
Laurens Southgate where can we find a demonstration of a better base deal than this?
Very Very nice Video ,,
Watch Daniel Madison's bottom deal, it's totally different, you can learn it on Mechanic...
Hard to hold the deck doing this...
Nice
Clean af
When i do it my cards het bend how do i fix this?
I like this
WARNING! All magicians must be left handed to follow the Russian's tutorials.
King Robert I’m a lefty
I find it interesting how people would call me left handed when most of my card stuff is done with the right hand, but I understand what you mean. I feel like there's a misunderstanding in magic when it comes to which hand is which, cause I'm right handed in everything I do besides magic.
There's websites which will mirror flip YT videos so it looks the correct way around for you, I don't want to leave a link in case the spam filter picks it up but just google "mirror flip youtube video"
Good
The bad part of this style of bottom dealing, is that you flash your knuckles and also, that the sound of the bottom deal is different. Probablt a lay person won't notice that tho
Juan José Fonseca Godoy Check out my bottom deal in this, where I use the same technique.
ruclips.net/video/gZCUwVOKDU8/видео.html
The bottom deal is at the end of the video.
TheRussianGenius I can see you flashing your knuckles. What about the sound of the cards when they are dealt?
Right now I'm learning Daniel Madison's bottom deal, which is a bit harder, but you don't flash your knuckles and also the sound of the cards is the same than with a fair deal
Juan José Fonseca Godoy You can clear the sound by pulling the card parallel to the table instead of upwards like most magicians.
You can not do the Daniel Madison's bottom with an old deck, that is where this bottom deal comes handy.
TheRussianGenius You're absolutely right about the old deck thing. I had to open a new deck, because with my old deck cards got stuck together
Sr. Asnoman he has a DVD called "Mechanic" from ellusonist. Pretty cool stuff. It's supposed to be moves that you could use in an actual poker game to cheat, but don't believe that. They're good for magic, but for poker you'll probably get your fingers broken.
where did you learned that??
Is there no "V" in Russian?
sorry but im getting angry.how the hack you push the bottom card forward to deal??????
Ok now i’m heading to a “municipal game” with Matt Damon.
what are the playing cards
+J Hill houdini
Bottom diel mang tas hoga sir
do you have to piss all over the card at 3:17 ?
All Users Tech I
great
nice
What's the music at 1:00 ?
Hi sir
6:38
Using your pinky
Me: O.O
×0.25 6:38
Uuuuuusssiiinnnggg yooouuurrrr piiiinnnkkyyyy
Learn the fingers.
What's the name of this deck?
Tim Nichter White Lions deck I think Mate
Shaun magician 666 Shaun magician 666 but the back of the cards Are very different?
Tim Nichter ok mate I think I'm mistaken I don't know if it's the white lions deck not sure man you have to check it out...
amazing as always, the buckling is my downfall, i just cant do it
music?
what is this deck please :)
Bicycle Houdini
Wery good tutorial
Conans Animations how many languages do you speak?
Conans Animations how many languages do you speak?
Hello
The real challenge, and what makes this near impossible, is that you hear it. Can we hear you deal 18 cards please?
Play music when you play then heh
Isn't that Greek deal?
Finally i will win at poker
Ok no offense but at the beginning when you lifted all four aces off the top of the deck I was like legit shocked when you started to pretend it was one card. I honestly thought you wanted us to see you pick up the four aces.
super
Nice video again. But I'm challenging you, try making a video under 5 minutes see how it works out.
The intro where I talk about the move with the performance is the first 1 min and 17 seconds, not long at all, and there are two different performances.
I'm actually done teaching the move at around the 5-6 minute mark, but still I talk a bid more to give few tips and go a little bid more in dept.
Yes, I could and I try to make videos under 5 minutes, my last few magic tutorials have been under 5 minutes as well, but if I do it I will then also do a Part 2 video in the future where I give tips on the moves cause 5 minutes it not always enough.
5 minutes it not enough on the bottom deal, it can be enough on the other moves as Marlo Tilt, One Handed Cut, Double Lift, but not Bottom Deal! :)
Yeah, I'm not saying like you talk too much or anything, just giving suggestion that I think is better for us to learn because we as the audiences can always go back and replay some details so you don't have to repeat the explanation, at least that's what I do. Thanks for replying tho.
Haojie Xu Thanks, I'll try it more often! :)
I want learn this so I can get my face bashed in like in the movies!! :)
Sorry to rain on anyone's parade here, but this is NOT the method taught by Jason England. So don't think you're getting that for free. I dunno where this method comes from, but it's full of problems. Go buy Jason England's video, its not expensive, and it teaches it properly.
Its dificult
My fucking fingers are too long for that... I can't do that grip :( Either the deck is hovering like 2 inch in the air away from my hand or if my deck is laying in my hand, my fingers touch the deck at the second to third joint :(
that's why it takes years of practice... Don't freak out, me to I'm kind a beginner.
is it only now that I realize that you are a lefty
Its not magic you have Marked deck cards
I need to learn to base deal. Once I master it, I'll make a living cheating card games & have more money than Donald Trump!
Yeah baby!
Mister Sarajevo preach it!
I suggest Maddison X Erdnase download for Bottom and second deal
Veljko Matovic. or you could get a good resource like Jason England foundations.
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