He sounds like the Korean version of the “Nice guy”, someone who feels entitled after doing what they think is nice or romantic. 🙃🙃 We literally cannot escape men like this ANYWHERE HOLY
I have had my fair share of "nice guys". I feel like they're worse than "fuck boys" because at least fuckboys tell you what they want, whereas there's SO much deception with NiceGuys. They act super innocent, sweet, caring to get sex and then when you don't give it to them, they call you a bitch, whore, ugly etc.
honestly this is why i like women, i’ve been questioning for a long time if i’m bisexual or just lesbian and this video + several others validated my thinking. i think i like the idea of being in a relationship w a man, but i wouldn’t do it myself bc im way too scared of getting hurt. both nice guys and rude guys can end up deceptive and manipulating.
@@godischungha4599 The good thing is there IS more than those two categories of men (although sometimes it feels like that's all there is..). I'm not sure your sexuality, but the fact you said you're scared means you haven't found the right guy (I feel the same way). But I'm sure we keep meeting people and eventually someone will shine :)
@@milkbread5036 they are far worse!! They are so delusional it’s kind of scary. It’s insane to me how much media use to (and probably still does) pushed the agenda of the Nice guy deserves to have whatever they wish for after doing anything remotely kind/nice to the person their interested in, cause dudes have internalized that as what they should do to get what they want which is disgusting. I hope you find someone that cares and RESPECTS you and your boundaries 🙌🏼
@@godischungha4599 As someone who's straight, I also am scared of dating in general, because I have encountered nice guys pretty much since elementary school all the way up to college. The important thing is to recognize any red flags or oftentimes you'll get a gut feeling that this guy isn't a good person, right when you meet them. If the guy doesn't respect your boundaries or decisions he's not worth your time or energy! I hope you find what you're looking for whether it's a male or female :)
Imma be honest kdramas normalize unhealthy and sometimes abusive relationships also TW ...sexual assault and fat phobia as much as I love kdrama this is a serious problem
my gf literally left me cos i told her love in korea is not like kdramas she said " you ruining my dream" like i am ruining your dreams cos I am telling you the reality?
To be really honest, I've never found jealousy or being possessive over your partner attractive, in real-life and even in dramas. At least in dramas I can over-look that but I still cringe. I don't even get why people find it cute like excuse me I'm a fucking human not a thing you can possess and secondly, being a little jealous is only natural but restricting your partner from doing things because you can't control your emotions... BOI BYE. You know it's a big red flag when your partner starts acting like your parent lmaoo
SAME!!! i find it to be an insult too. like basically you are implying that i need to be controlled and watched or otherwise i would go out and cheat on you?
some guys, not only in korea, are also as controling to the point of asking you to unfollow every single guy friends you have on insta just because you commented on their pic or liked it once before you met him because he feels they are a “threat” to the relationship
my friends bf is like that and it pisses me off so much. like he has no right and that shows that he doesn’t trust her and is wayyyy too controlling and that’s bad. ive tried saying something but it’s tough
I’ve seen girls like this too. A girl in my class made her boyfriend (who were all friends with) block all the girls in the class because she was so jealous we were friends with him. Some people are just not fit to be in a relationship tbh
This particular brand of love bombing seems a culture thing, but this kind of pressuring behaviour can be seen in Europe too. It's just less accepted here and that's the difference.
Omw yesss someone has finally said it, this is why these days I don't watch k dramas that much, they romanticize toxic behavior especially from the man all in the name of love like in the heirs I don't understand how people liked young do( Kim woo bin ) like he was bullying her all because he couldn't say I like you, or boys over flowers where gu junpyo literally abducted jandi from school and bright him to his house for a makeup over like wtf, or this arm grabbing nonsense I will slap a guy who will even try it because wtf is that I could go on and on lol😂
and i guess to counteract it, kdramas romanticize toxic behavior from women too (like in it's okay to not be okay) which is just as bad it's so hard to find a kdrama where both the man and the woman treat each other with respect, i found more respectful characters in action/crime dramas than in rom-coms
@@FruityHachi bro!!!! Omw!!! You read my mind famm!! (sorry you got me excited) like ko mom Young was sooo toxic and they were on some it's okay to not not be okay like... That woman was crazy and she needed to go to a mental institution like actually crazy how do you go around stabbing people, pushing them stairs, beating and shouting at people, etc and go unchecked nahh I didn't not like that at all, the message they were portraying was SOOO BADD!! I watched it because people said it was amazing and the hype but nah I'd defo not watch it again that was a bad psychiatric or mental health show Watch kill me heal me or it's okay it's love. I loved those 2
Not gonna lie I kinda like the idea of asking the person to be gf/bf after the 3rd date. It sounds better than dating someone for 3 months who could be dating other ppl and not knowing if ur going anywhere 😭
I think is really weird because you're going to date someone you don't know, like, this person that I meet three weeks ago is my bf/gf??? I would barely know them
@@thaiscarvalho2711 You could date someone for 2 years and even marry then and still not know them too. Time doesn’t really matter to me as long as you’re getting to know that person but I would rather get to know them knowing we’re the only ones dating each other and not dating multiple people.
@@NiaG34 For me, I would only date someone If I have feelings for them and I don't think I would grow this type of feelings barely knowing them, it's not about knowing everything about the person I think it's because for me the boyfriend/girlfriend tittle is really heavy, like she said in the video, it's not normal to say to the friends that you are dating so quickly because you are still knowing each other, for me this is weird, because having someone with that tittle it's because they're important to me, so I will let my friends know first thing (Sorry if it's difficult to understand, English isn't my first language)
@@thaiscarvalho2711 Yes I understand and I get that too. I imagine that I will already know of this person before considering dating so after a few dates I wouldn’t mind a title. I think because in Korea the gf/bf title isn’t a big deal the first year or so in mostly because some only get into relationships for fun/ sexual relations because hookups are taboo so they will need a title for that.
@@NiaG34 Ohh I get it, like if one of my friends (Or someone that I already knew) asked me on a date and I kinda of can see having a relationship with them, I believe a few dates is enough too, but I understood like she said in the video, she meet the guy one time and got asked on a date, if it was with me, a few dates wouldn't be enough
I am living vicariously through your dating life. Lol! I agree, who the hell would know that accepting a doodle means you're paired for life now? Oh gosh.
I wouldn't date someone I couldn't feel I would trust around other men. I also wouldn't date someone who wouldn't trust me hanging out with my female friends. I find the whole concept of dating someone you don't trust deeply disturbing.
Ohhh ....not only in Korea...in India there is a type of boyfriend...I mean cringy types...but it looks romantic in only dramas...n the worst in real life...
There are definitely parts of the US with similar dating/relationship expectations (no hanging out with the opposite sex, calling to check-in etc). I think it’s kind of been looked down upon in just the last few years, but there are definitely still people who think that way. Also, when you talk about becoming boyfriend and girlfriend after a few dates, I think the wording you might be searching for is “dating exclusively” or in an “exclusive relationship”. That’s what we would say in the states to differentiate from going on dates with different people in the same time period.
I don't think it's really in certain parts/states in the US but more so just a person to person thing instead. There is most definitely plenty of people with that mindset.
@@SugaBabieT that’s fair. I guess I was thinking of the more conservative (cough cough southern) areas of the US, but you’re definitely right that it’s all over
Gosh this reminded me one time I texted my boyfriend at 2AM if he’s coming home that night when he was partying with friends and he texted me back at 6AM “yeah” and didn’t. Quite the opposite lmao
I thought the guy is like 20-21 or something and was like "that's not creepy" then you said he was 25 and like- Who knows how many times he did that like he sound like he did it many times that he knows what to do to guilt shame someone into a relationship
In the Philippines, it's the same. Some people appreciate giving updates and stuff? In fact, some couples even share their SNS credentials so they can check each other's inboxes. --- but that's not everyone. But personally, anything is good but as long as it's agreed upon. That's what communication is for. --- love from Manila. ❤️
Well I‘m german and I met this korean guy on tinder (fully korean but born in germany)... he brought me to the nicest dates and got me flowers and cooked for me. I felt like I was in a k-drama. After 3 months of weekly dating and also sleepovers I‘ve wanted like a small commitment and he was like: I know you wnat a relationsship but this is to much pressure bla bla. Suddenly he kicked ne out of his instagram follower list and also unfollowed me. After I asked him why he did that he said: well I spent to much time on social media so I decided to only follow and have followers of my friends and familygroup! I just kicked him out of my life! I‘ve never been treated like that
Weiß nicht, ob das am koreanischen Hintergrund liegt oder das einfach nur der typische beziehungsunfähige Tindertrottel war. Hab viele solche Leute kennenlernen dürfen.
Im filipina, watch out for Men giving gifts (even if you werent dating yet) under the guise of being simply nice or chivalrous, cus he might be expecting for something in return like anything he demands, and get pissed when a girl doesnt follow those demands big or small. Thats already a red flag
ugh we're the same age but ur miles ahead of me in the confidence and self-acceptance game!! ty for inspiring me to catch up & for suffering 2 yrs ago so u can give us this funny storytime now LOL also thank u for teaching me what love bombing is, love knowing i've been a victim of that as well
On a first date my date's discussion slowly veered to the question, "would you want to get married?" Whaaaaat!!! I was soooo creeped out and uncomfortable. I changed the subject talking about the location of the date to which I never had been, the food, the weather, etc. He asked the question again OMG - I responded by saying, "I am presently working on my college degree and the coursework is heavy." Throughout it all the first time he asked the question I knew HELL NO!!! There will never be a second date. If I get creeped out on a first date, I immediately cut it off.
Hello Kelsey. I love how you are authentic without sugar coating the truth. I know Cha Cha Cha from dancing with the stars. Thanks for sharing your story 😊
Sounds like the two of you had spent a little time together, though not on a “date.” As you acknowledge, it’s part of the culture to quickly identify as a couple, then create a relationship. In any case, it sounds as though you were incompatible in your expectations. You nailed it when you said he had a Kdrama mentality. I’m not sure he was “creepy”. You just were extremely different in what you wanted from a relationship.
Somehow, the demands to not spend anytime apart with mixed groups--makes me think of the crazy KPOP fans--crazy insecure, crazy possessive. All that texting sounds like a horrible job...yikes
I simply love your personality! I ended up in these dating videos while doing reseach for my studies in Korea and I dont regret, your personality is so much fun!
Hi, I have a question! I notice that when Dispatch outs a couple, the picture usually involves walking in the parking lot, going to or exiting the apartment, etc. Is casually hanging out at each other's place a strong evidence of being in a relationship especially if it is just the two of them? Thank you! Hoping you'll answer this. I love watching your vlogs 💕
Yes it is! In Korea you don't really hang out with each other in your apartments, mostly because many still live with their families, maybe not as many celebs, but I'll get to that later on. So people who are not living alone meet outside with their friends and for some sexy time mostly go to motels with their lovers. As for celebrities, they can't really hang out in public, as they'd most likely get noticed. But you'd occasionally see celeb friends from the same sex hanging out and it'd not be a big deal. However having a male and female celeb hanging out would immediately raise suspension and celebrities mostly date in either their car (dark windows) or their house, in case they're living alone. I hope this answers your question.🤗
@@watchoutcrazy Thank you! I've read many international fans questioning DP's reliability by saying two people can casually hangout at each other's places with no malice. But I know Korea is still a relatively conservative country so people rarely invites a friend of the opposite sex into their place to just casually hang out especially if it is just the two of them. This is also the same in my country, it is unusual for platonic friends (man and a woman) to stay and sleepover at the other's place. This usually happens if they are already in a romantic relationship.
Hey Kelsey, I have been trying to find info on this anywhere out of curiosity, but how does dating work for people in korea that are atypical, like divorcees, with or without kids, single parents with kids, or widows? Also, are age gaps a big deal in korea?
... He didn't have any dating experience... AND apparently any common sense either 🤔😅 thanks for your video. I love your Snorlax plushie, what size it is? Where did u get it? I soooo want one just like that one 🥰💖
I'm a gyopo. I'm in my late 30s now but when we met, we were in our early 30s. I met him online first and then later dated him in person in Daegu. My ex would always contact me when he was drinking. But what was crazy, later I found he was actually cheating LOL. He was really controlling and rude to me about everything. When we broke up, he was really nasty about it even though we broke up because he was cheating.
In some kdramas when guys act jealous over trivial things and ask their girls why she's smiling to other boy (who's a friend) it's so cringe some people shame western movies or series for being so straight forward and not how they aren't like kdrama. But if some guy asks me why I'm smiling or talking to a guy I'm gonna break his bones... I hate these cringe bullshits. I mean in a relationship if you're obsessed and jealous all the time over little things then bitch that's not a relationship it's bullshit.
I wish I was as confident as you, that’s awesome... I’m older and I still find myself in awkward situations with guys because I don’t know how to assert myself properly :/
Preposterous. That would not fly here. Why would you need to report to each other. You can tell each other you are hanging out as a courtesy which is okay but not a constant string of texts and calls.
Kelsey literally breaking and breaking Kboo thing and i love it 😂 Below statement is where i see from google and its so creepy. kboo The word kboo is an abbreviation of the word koreaboo. A kboo is someone who's obsessed with Korea and Korean culture and wishes to be Korean. They do everything to look like they're a native korean and they act like they're fluent even tho most of the time the only words they know are annyeonghaseyo, oppa and saranghae. #Urban Dictionary
Wowww, it reminds me of so many dramas I watched where the guy out of nowhere will tell someone the girl is his girlfriend without even asking, and that's like romantic 😂😂😂 crazy
I dont think shes Westernized. I think she is aware of her limits, boundaries and puts herself first so she ends up in healthy situations, rather than creepy (at least to her). I find it a good thing to know what you like, dont like, and being confident to say it out loud.
@@agnedragunaite3418 Very well said, I agree. I think more like Kelsey so whenever I see my Korean gf's in relationships like these I'm always thinking in the back of my mind, "aren't you both being a little crazy and obsessive?" It seems mentally and emotionally unhealthy 😅
@@dancingdohl i think thats also this social thing/fantasy they have in Korea? No? Im not sure, ill be moving there but I never dated in that scene so 😂
For something they are called "kdramas" i mean.. not real, the only thing is real, is that, they show their korean culture, as food, work, and traditional things, etc, i love kdramas.
Oh we're actually the same age 😃 also props to u for not taking the bad behavior of ur ex, there were a lot of red flags and the romanticization of these controlling and jealous behavior is really concerning. For me trust is one of the most important things in a relationship. Also if you're bi etc then ur just screwed, can't drink with no one xD But besides that the story was super interesting and man how cool was the ballroom exam👌
I have the same story with my exkorean boyfriend, we just started talking to each other and i see him as a friend only, suddenly, he said so many weird things to me like im so sweet girl (in which im not,i just act nice if a person is nice to me too), and he said he wanna travel around world with me and have fun with me and so many affectionate words,he is always available for me in which is weird because we only started knowing each other. After a few days, he asked me to be his girlfriend,and ofcourse i declined because im dont have any feelings for him but we still talking. And then 2 days after he said "I love you so much im so lucky youre my girlfriend" "I wanna marry you", like wtf was that? When i was your girlfriend? i had to ghost him😂
This wasn't that bad. A bit weird, but nothing out of the world. Thankfully, he wasn't abusive. He seems like someone who didn't know what he was doing.
Girl my ex ( korean in korea) asked me to be his girlfriend, no told me I was his girlfriend 2 days after we first met like wtffffffff It was such a weird relationship from the beginning 😅
The word "creepy" is not the correct word to use in this case. You meant, you were shocked. He put in the effort to draw that picture. That showed that he really like you. He was just not experienced in perusing a girl. So give him some credits.
Wow. I never take out my phone when I am out with people. I find it quite disrespectful like you're not really in the conversation whatsoever. If I go out I just like to enjoy the moment and I want the same for my partner. Of course as you said... This might be cultural difference but for me it feels toxic to have the need to report to your partner who are you with and viceversa.
I just clicked on to ur video since I was curious of ur story, but wow.. I did not except how relatable ur ex would be to mine😭 I also felt guilt and ended up dating him afterwards.. and he tried to be the best bf for me but I did find it cringe and kinda annoying.. but he’s still trying to get bad together and idk what to say..
Idk…if my boyfriend repeatedly told me that there were no girls around him even though i never asked nor have ever shown/expressed any insecurity of him cheating on me..him doing that all day would just make me believe that he’s lying. Because why are you telling me this? I trust you and i hope that you trust me too. I’ve never heard of Western/American men doing this but the insecurity from both genders and their partner hanging out with the opposite gender is definitely there. It’s one of the biggest debates i see all the time. It’s so silly lmao Also, didn’t i read somewhere that a large percentage of Korean women expect their boyfriend/husband to cheat on them at least once while they’re together (considering how common infidelity is)? I’m sorry but those women who bragged about this are most likely no longer with that partner because they must’ve turned out to be just like this guy lol it’s very weird and territorial. The men/women who do this (constant check ins)- they already know that you don’t/can’t trust them to cheat and only cheaters are understanding of this. A normal person would either call you out for not trusting them, break up with you…or try and talk with you on why you’re not 100% comfortable in the relationship. It could be past trauma though.
Just because they call doesn't mean he's doing what he says. I had a boyfriend that would leave me stranded at home & never come home. So, I moved out & left him in the apartment. Then he could pay full rent, electric, etc & not ask me for $$. What a waste of time.
The only thing I have to say is to tell your S.O. where you are just incase you get into trouble so you can let them know. Usually you should tell your trusted family member/trusted friend where you are if you do go out. The only reason why I say this is because women typically get assaulted or kidnapped on outings. So I am afraid of going missing and if I do go missing I'll want to leave the easiest trail so I can be found. It is girl code, there have been many times where I have been followed/tracked/pursued BUT nobody would know where I went if the creep actually kidnapped me because I didn't tell someone where I was. BUT there's a point where it becomes controlling if your S.O. pressures you to tell you your location and who you're with constantly. They don't want to help you, they want to control you and make sure they have control over you knowing this info. And then they can use their insecurities to guilt trip you. The reason why people glorify boyfriends for telling their girlfriends their locations is because they think their boyfriends are doing this out of love but in reality it is performative so they can compensate for their obsessive behavior and so they can use it as an excuse and gaslight you whenever they are toxic to you. They try to justify their abuse by using this form of passive love-bombing.
He sounds like the Korean version of the “Nice guy”, someone who feels entitled after doing what they think is nice or romantic. 🙃🙃 We literally cannot escape men like this ANYWHERE HOLY
I have had my fair share of "nice guys". I feel like they're worse than "fuck boys" because at least fuckboys tell you what they want, whereas there's SO much deception with NiceGuys. They act super innocent, sweet, caring to get sex and then when you don't give it to them, they call you a bitch, whore, ugly etc.
honestly this is why i like women, i’ve been questioning for a long time if i’m bisexual or just lesbian and this video + several others validated my thinking. i think i like the idea of being in a relationship w a man, but i wouldn’t do it myself bc im way too scared of getting hurt. both nice guys and rude guys can end up deceptive and manipulating.
@@godischungha4599 The good thing is there IS more than those two categories of men (although sometimes it feels like that's all there is..). I'm not sure your sexuality, but the fact you said you're scared means you haven't found the right guy (I feel the same way). But I'm sure we keep meeting people and eventually someone will shine :)
@@milkbread5036 they are far worse!! They are so delusional it’s kind of scary. It’s insane to me how much media use to (and probably still does) pushed the agenda of the Nice guy deserves to have whatever they wish for after doing anything remotely kind/nice to the person their interested in, cause dudes have internalized that as what they should do to get what they want which is disgusting. I hope you find someone that cares and RESPECTS you and your boundaries 🙌🏼
@@godischungha4599 As someone who's straight, I also am scared of dating in general, because I have encountered nice guys pretty much since elementary school all the way up to college. The important thing is to recognize any red flags or oftentimes you'll get a gut feeling that this guy isn't a good person, right when you meet them. If the guy doesn't respect your boundaries or decisions he's not worth your time or energy! I hope you find what you're looking for whether it's a male or female :)
Imma be honest kdramas normalize unhealthy and sometimes abusive relationships also TW ...sexual assault and fat phobia as much as I love kdrama this is a serious problem
whats tw
@@fartunyep4501 trigger warning
@@fartunyep4501 having these topics might trigger victims so I always put a tw so they can feel safe
@@aspenjones8841 ooh okay i didnt know what it stood for. thanks
Some kdrama are good let's not generalize it that all kdrama glorify bad relationship
Kelsey is here to break down all kboos fantasies, and I am here for that!
idk why I laughed so hard at that haha
I'm here for it too I'm loving the stories .😍🥰
my gf literally left me cos i told her love in korea is not like kdramas she said " you ruining my dream" like i am ruining your dreams cos I am telling you the reality?
😂😂 sorry bro... your ex was a delulu?
@@bhavya.d1897 basically
Dodged a bullet 😂😂😂
Sorry but your ex so much dramatic 😒
Run! Fast !!your ex is toxic!
To be really honest, I've never found jealousy or being possessive over your partner attractive, in real-life and even in dramas. At least in dramas I can over-look that but I still cringe. I don't even get why people find it cute like excuse me I'm a fucking human not a thing you can possess and secondly, being a little jealous is only natural but restricting your partner from doing things because you can't control your emotions... BOI BYE. You know it's a big red flag when your partner starts acting like your parent lmaoo
Uhh im possesive too 😂
@@Tarotblackcat it's okay unless you're restricting the person you're dating with to do certain things that are normal just for your benefit
But it’s actually good if he’s restricting you from doing bad stuffs
@@scarletpearl4701 I would see that more of looking after a persons best interest and see it more protective than being possessive.
SAME!!! i find it to be an insult too. like basically you are implying that i need to be controlled and watched or otherwise i would go out and cheat on you?
some guys, not only in korea, are also as controling to the point of asking you to unfollow every single guy friends you have on insta just because you commented on their pic or liked it once before you met him because he feels they are a “threat” to the relationship
Yeah i know those guys too🤯
damn it’s sad that ppl still can’t believe that a guy and girl can be just friends w each other
my friends bf is like that and it pisses me off so much. like he has no right and that shows that he doesn’t trust her and is wayyyy too controlling and that’s bad. ive tried saying something but it’s tough
I’ve seen girls like this too. A girl in my class made her boyfriend (who were all friends with) block all the girls in the class because she was so jealous we were friends with him. Some people are just not fit to be in a relationship tbh
Exactly
Seeing my comment in the live stream and being the first one here, priorities ✨
Love uu💕
@@KelseytheKorean I LOVE YOU MORE 😾❤️
@Renice Eccles THISSSS 😭😭😭😭
i love how kelsey is just a reality check when it comes to korea and korean men
This particular brand of love bombing seems a culture thing, but this kind of pressuring behaviour can be seen in Europe too. It's just less accepted here and that's the difference.
I can't breathe! Texting constantly?! Checking in?! I can't do it.
That's what i want texting everyday , often 😀
Omw yesss someone has finally said it, this is why these days I don't watch k dramas that much, they romanticize toxic behavior especially from the man all in the name of love like in the heirs I don't understand how people liked young do( Kim woo bin ) like he was bullying her all because he couldn't say I like you, or boys over flowers where gu junpyo literally abducted jandi from school and bright him to his house for a makeup over like wtf, or this arm grabbing nonsense I will slap a guy who will even try it because wtf is that
I could go on and on lol😂
I hate the wrist grab and yanking the woman. Try that on me and you will have no arms...
Totally agree
@@milkbread5036 exactly 10 years ago i found it cute then I grew up and now I'm like this is abuse 😑😑
and i guess to counteract it, kdramas romanticize toxic behavior from women too (like in it's okay to not be okay)
which is just as bad
it's so hard to find a kdrama where both the man and the woman treat each other with respect, i found more respectful characters in action/crime dramas than in rom-coms
@@FruityHachi bro!!!! Omw!!! You read my mind famm!! (sorry you got me excited) like ko mom Young was sooo toxic and they were on some it's okay to not not be okay like...
That woman was crazy and she needed to go to a mental institution like actually crazy how do you go around stabbing people, pushing them stairs, beating and shouting at people, etc and go unchecked nahh I didn't not like that at all, the message they were portraying was SOOO BADD!! I watched it because people said it was amazing and the hype but nah I'd defo not watch it again that was a bad psychiatric or mental health show
Watch kill me heal me or it's okay it's love. I loved those 2
Not gonna lie I kinda like the idea of asking the person to be gf/bf after the 3rd date. It sounds better than dating someone for 3 months who could be dating other ppl and not knowing if ur going anywhere 😭
I think is really weird because you're going to date someone you don't know, like, this person that I meet three weeks ago is my bf/gf??? I would barely know them
@@thaiscarvalho2711 You could date someone for 2 years and even marry then and still not know them too. Time doesn’t really matter to me as long as you’re getting to know that person but I would rather get to know them knowing we’re the only ones dating each other and not dating multiple people.
@@NiaG34 For me, I would only date someone If I have feelings for them and I don't think I would grow this type of feelings barely knowing them, it's not about knowing everything about the person
I think it's because for me the boyfriend/girlfriend tittle is really heavy, like she said in the video, it's not normal to say to the friends that you are dating so quickly because you are still knowing each other, for me this is weird, because having someone with that tittle it's because they're important to me, so I will let my friends know first thing
(Sorry if it's difficult to understand, English isn't my first language)
@@thaiscarvalho2711 Yes I understand and I get that too. I imagine that I will already know of this person before considering dating so after a few dates I wouldn’t mind a title. I think because in Korea the gf/bf title isn’t a big deal the first year or so in mostly because some only get into relationships for fun/ sexual relations because hookups are taboo so they will need a title for that.
@@NiaG34 Ohh I get it, like if one of my friends (Or someone that I already knew) asked me on a date and I kinda of can see having a relationship with them, I believe a few dates is enough too, but I understood like she said in the video, she meet the guy one time and got asked on a date, if it was with me, a few dates wouldn't be enough
I am living vicariously through your dating life. Lol! I agree, who the hell would know that accepting a doodle means you're paired for life now? Oh gosh.
Ikr😂😂
hi, will you accept my heart ?
I wouldn't date someone I couldn't feel I would trust around other men. I also wouldn't date someone who wouldn't trust me hanging out with my female friends. I find the whole concept of dating someone you don't trust deeply disturbing.
The guy gives me major "nice guy" vibes. Especially when he started calling you a bunch of names when you broke up with him
Ohhh ....not only in Korea...in India there is a type of boyfriend...I mean cringy types...but it looks romantic in only dramas...n the worst in real life...
Oh trust me I know lmaooo
There are definitely parts of the US with similar dating/relationship expectations (no hanging out with the opposite sex, calling to check-in etc). I think it’s kind of been looked down upon in just the last few years, but there are definitely still people who think that way.
Also, when you talk about becoming boyfriend and girlfriend after a few dates, I think the wording you might be searching for is “dating exclusively” or in an “exclusive relationship”. That’s what we would say in the states to differentiate from going on dates with different people in the same time period.
Of course, when SK is under USA influence for more time than any other East Asia country.
I'm so confused 🤔😭😭
That it’s common in Korea that u get into a relationship after a few dates. That’s not common in America
I don't think it's really in certain parts/states in the US but more so just a person to person thing instead. There is most definitely plenty of people with that mindset.
@@SugaBabieT that’s fair. I guess I was thinking of the more conservative (cough cough southern) areas of the US, but you’re definitely right that it’s all over
Dying inside at " that fucker" I have never laughed so hard lmao
That snorlax gets me every time. I wonder what he's dreaming about 🤔
Gosh this reminded me one time I texted my boyfriend at 2AM if he’s coming home that night when he was partying with friends and he texted me back at 6AM “yeah” and didn’t. Quite the opposite lmao
I thought the guy is like 20-21 or something and was like "that's not creepy" then you said he was 25 and like-
Who knows how many times he did that like he sound like he did it many times that he knows what to do to guilt shame someone into a relationship
“It sounds like fucking Cinderella shit.” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I CANT 😭😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
In the Philippines, it's the same. Some people appreciate giving updates and stuff? In fact, some couples even share their SNS credentials so they can check each other's inboxes. --- but that's not everyone.
But personally, anything is good but as long as it's agreed upon. That's what communication is for. --- love from Manila. ❤️
manila is a shithole no offense
@@zefersanity6537 um you suck no offense
Agreed. Some couples are like that and it's normal.
Yup...... Here in India people think its okay to give your social media accounts and I am like please grow up......
@@ninime101 good one haha
I can't stop laughing this story is so bizarre lol l want more storytimes kelsey
So basically he wanted you to make him your first priority 😬
It's creepy. Anyways you are out of that relationship that's what we care about.
Well I‘m german and I met this korean guy on tinder (fully korean but born in germany)... he brought me to the nicest dates and got me flowers and cooked for me. I felt like I was in a k-drama. After 3 months of weekly dating and also sleepovers I‘ve wanted like a small commitment and he was like: I know you wnat a relationsship but this is to much pressure bla bla. Suddenly he kicked ne out of his instagram follower list and also unfollowed me. After I asked him why he did that he said: well I spent to much time on social media so I decided to only follow and have followers of my friends and familygroup!
I just kicked him out of my life! I‘ve never been treated like that
Weiß nicht, ob das am koreanischen Hintergrund liegt oder das einfach nur der typische beziehungsunfähige Tindertrottel war. Hab viele solche Leute kennenlernen dürfen.
Y’all need to remember that men are still men and to not judge people by their race 😭
Im filipina, watch out for Men giving gifts (even if you werent dating yet) under the guise of being simply nice or chivalrous, cus he might be expecting for something in return like anything he demands, and get pissed when a girl doesnt follow those demands big or small. Thats already a red flag
ugh we're the same age but ur miles ahead of me in the confidence and self-acceptance game!! ty for inspiring me to catch up & for suffering 2 yrs ago so u can give us this funny storytime now LOL also thank u for teaching me what love bombing is, love knowing i've been a victim of that as well
The way she stopped and laughed about him being like “but you accepted my heart”
I think trashing a guy in public just because he liked you more than you liked him is extremely toxic and weird
The moment that you felt guilty because of the drawing its the moment everything went downhill.... i detest guilt trippers... men...
On a first date my date's discussion slowly veered to the question, "would you want to get married?" Whaaaaat!!! I was soooo creeped out and uncomfortable. I changed the subject talking about the location of the date to which I never had been, the food, the weather, etc. He asked the question again OMG - I responded by saying, "I am presently working on my college degree and the coursework is heavy." Throughout it all the first time he asked the question I knew HELL NO!!! There will never be a second date. If I get creeped out on a first date, I immediately cut it off.
It's nice that u're telling all koreaboo about the reality of the society...
I really like ur videos.. love from solomon islands
Hello Kelsey. I love how you are authentic without sugar coating the truth. I know Cha Cha Cha from dancing with the stars.
Thanks for sharing your story 😊
Sounds like the two of you had spent a little time together, though not on a “date.” As you acknowledge, it’s part of the culture to quickly identify as a couple, then create a relationship.
In any case, it sounds as though you were incompatible in your expectations. You nailed it when you said he had a Kdrama mentality. I’m not sure he was “creepy”. You just were extremely different in what you wanted from a relationship.
Somehow, the demands to not spend anytime apart with mixed groups--makes me think of the crazy KPOP fans--crazy insecure, crazy possessive. All that texting sounds like a horrible job...yikes
I don't watch kdramas 💀💀💀
I do like their detective series etc, and I'm at ep 1 of Law School although I'm not studying law😅🤣🤣🤦🏽♀️
I only like the crime or sci-fi ones. The romance ones aren’t my cup of tea.
Same i love ocn drama
He probably watched too much k-drama 😂
5:11
Nov 11 Pepero Day
Noted👌🏽
I so love the way you tell your stories... so bubbly and charming, and so real... no sugarcoating...
I simply love your personality!
I ended up in these dating videos while doing reseach for my studies in Korea and I dont regret, your personality is so much fun!
I feel like we'd get along so well as friends in real life hahaha more power to you fam 👏
Hi, I have a question! I notice that when Dispatch outs a couple, the picture usually involves walking in the parking lot, going to or exiting the apartment, etc. Is casually hanging out at each other's place a strong evidence of being in a relationship especially if it is just the two of them? Thank you! Hoping you'll answer this. I love watching your vlogs 💕
Yes it is! In Korea you don't really hang out with each other in your apartments, mostly because many still live with their families, maybe not as many celebs, but I'll get to that later on.
So people who are not living alone meet outside with their friends and for some sexy time mostly go to motels with their lovers.
As for celebrities, they can't really hang out in public, as they'd most likely get noticed. But you'd occasionally see celeb friends from the same sex hanging out and it'd not be a big deal. However having a male and female celeb hanging out would immediately raise suspension and celebrities mostly date in either their car (dark windows) or their house, in case they're living alone.
I hope this answers your question.🤗
@@watchoutcrazy Thank you! I've read many international fans questioning DP's reliability by saying two people can casually hangout at each other's places with no malice. But I know Korea is still a relatively conservative country so people rarely invites a friend of the opposite sex into their place to just casually hang out especially if it is just the two of them. This is also the same in my country, it is unusual for platonic friends (man and a woman) to stay and sleepover at the other's place. This usually happens if they are already in a romantic relationship.
Hey Kelsey, I have been trying to find info on this anywhere out of curiosity, but how does dating work for people in korea that are atypical, like divorcees, with or without kids, single parents with kids, or widows? Also, are age gaps a big deal in korea?
... He didn't have any dating experience... AND apparently any common sense either 🤔😅 thanks for your video. I love your Snorlax plushie, what size it is? Where did u get it? I soooo want one just like that one 🥰💖
That livestream was so fun! keep bringing us good content Kelsey!
I'm a gyopo. I'm in my late 30s now but when we met, we were in our early 30s. I met him online first and then later dated him in person in Daegu. My ex would always contact me when he was drinking. But what was crazy, later I found he was actually cheating LOL. He was really controlling and rude to me about everything. When we broke up, he was really nasty about it even though we broke up because he was cheating.
I’m really proud of you, I admire how you stand up for yourself!💖
Ohh I just noticed my comment was there in the thumbnail 😂😂😂...otherwise watching it again because I just love Kelsey's voice 😅😅😅😁😁🤭🤭
ok but kudos to your friend who asked if he could give out your number first! ugh the respect! 🥺✨ also really sorry that happened to you 🤍
I love the way she tells stories 😍🥰
In some kdramas when guys act jealous over trivial things and ask their girls why she's smiling to other boy (who's a friend) it's so cringe some people shame western movies or series for being so straight forward and not how they aren't like kdrama. But if some guy asks me why I'm smiling or talking to a guy I'm gonna break his bones... I hate these cringe bullshits. I mean in a relationship if you're obsessed and jealous all the time over little things then bitch that's not a relationship it's bullshit.
It’s show respect and showing concern.Because sometimes when drinking it can get out of hand.
I wish I was as confident as you, that’s awesome... I’m older and I still find myself in awkward situations with guys because I don’t know how to assert myself properly :/
You're one of my fav fav korean youtuber!❤ love ya!
Kelsey really chose to take everyone of out fantasies and destroy them
Preposterous. That would not fly here. Why would you need to report to each other. You can tell each other you are hanging out as a courtesy which is okay but not a constant string of texts and calls.
Kelsey literally breaking and breaking Kboo thing and i love it 😂
Below statement is where i see from google and its so creepy.
kboo
The word kboo is an abbreviation of the word koreaboo. A kboo is someone who's obsessed with Korea and Korean culture and wishes to be Korean. They do everything to look like they're a native korean and they act like they're fluent even tho most of the time the only words they know are annyeonghaseyo, oppa and saranghae.
#Urban Dictionary
Holy macaroni :D Dating life here in europe is totally the oposit.Its so interesting hearing about these stories.
Wowww, it reminds me of so many dramas I watched where the guy out of nowhere will tell someone the girl is his girlfriend without even asking, and that's like romantic 😂😂😂 crazy
I think Kelsey is very Westernized. My Korean girlfriends probably would have liked him
"very westernised" ?! Fam!! She's just got her head outta d fog, that's all.
She's not, she's actually educated. Everyone deserves to be the way the are and not to be possessed by someone. We don't like to do as we're told to.
I dont think shes Westernized. I think she is aware of her limits, boundaries and puts herself first so she ends up in healthy situations, rather than creepy (at least to her). I find it a good thing to know what you like, dont like, and being confident to say it out loud.
@@agnedragunaite3418 Very well said, I agree. I think more like Kelsey so whenever I see my Korean gf's in relationships like these I'm always thinking in the back of my mind, "aren't you both being a little crazy and obsessive?" It seems mentally and emotionally unhealthy 😅
@@dancingdohl i think thats also this social thing/fantasy they have in Korea? No? Im not sure, ill be moving there but I never dated in that scene so 😂
Thank you Kelsey 💖
For something they are called "kdramas" i mean.. not real, the only thing is real, is that, they show their korean culture, as food, work, and traditional things, etc, i love kdramas.
7:35 when you start laughing, I thought *I* wouldn’t be able to stop laughing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh we're actually the same age 😃 also props to u for not taking the bad behavior of ur ex, there were a lot of red flags and the romanticization of these controlling and jealous behavior is really concerning. For me trust is one of the most important things in a relationship. Also if you're bi etc then ur just screwed, can't drink with no one xD
But besides that the story was super interesting and man how cool was the ballroom exam👌
I have the same story with my exkorean boyfriend, we just started talking to each other and i see him as a friend only, suddenly, he said so many weird things to me like im so sweet girl (in which im not,i just act nice if a person is nice to me too), and he said he wanna travel around world with me and have fun with me and so many affectionate words,he is always available for me in which is weird because we only started knowing each other. After a few days, he asked me to be his girlfriend,and ofcourse i declined because im dont have any feelings for him but we still talking. And then 2 days after he said "I love you so much im so lucky youre my girlfriend" "I wanna marry you", like wtf was that? When i was your girlfriend? i had to ghost him😂
Hats off to creepy ness
The calling thing is too much. I like to check in often during the day but hourly! Nah
This wasn't that bad. A bit weird, but nothing out of the world. Thankfully, he wasn't abusive. He seems like someone who didn't know what he was doing.
This is quality content 👏🏽🥰 seems like he wanted to show off the relationship more than he wanted to be in the relationship
There's a perfect story about you can never satisfy a woman
4:22 but I'm not straight 💀💀💀
So it's not really romantic, just fun
I wasn't super turned off until the contacting every hour on the hour 😬.
Like just tell me where you are once .
Love your videos, i never skip or keep watching at the half of it . Loves from Azerbaijan💜
He’s moving at light speed lol. But the art was decent though. I thought it was printed/bought elsewhere lol
Excellent video
this guy was bold
but interesting story...a bit creepy tho
also love the snorlax❤
new follower!! love this!! do you have a q&a? i’m interested in learning more about u! 🥰
LOL “ball hall” ballroom hall!!
You are speaking the truth as always in every video.
I heard that some Korean man, act like that cuz they just want a girlfriend, any girlfriend, disregarding if they have anything in common.
Yaaayyy story time!!!!!! 😊😊😊
Totally off topic, but I need that big Snorlax behind you in my life 😢
Dangit I missed another livestream! But we get more content so yay!
Girl my ex ( korean in korea) asked me to be his girlfriend, no told me I was his girlfriend 2 days after we first met like wtffffffff It was such a weird relationship from the beginning 😅
It’s not true. In many cultures partners share their daily updates of what they ate or who they are with. ♥️
The word "creepy" is not the correct word to use in this case. You meant, you were shocked. He put in the effort to draw that picture. That showed that he really like you. He was just not experienced in perusing a girl. So give him some credits.
exactly. This girl has serious issues. And comes across as emotionally immature
Wow. I never take out my phone when I am out with people. I find it quite disrespectful like you're not really in the conversation whatsoever. If I go out I just like to enjoy the moment and I want the same for my partner. Of course as you said... This might be cultural difference but for me it feels toxic to have the need to report to your partner who are you with and viceversa.
My comment is late. I love this video!!! Thank you! Also, what's the name of the product you put on your lips??? 🥺💕 it's so pretty.
YOU ARE SO AMAZING ❤️
I just clicked on to ur video since I was curious of ur story, but wow.. I did not except how relatable ur ex would be to mine😭 I also felt guilt and ended up dating him afterwards.. and he tried to be the best bf for me but I did find it cringe and kinda annoying.. but he’s still trying to get bad together and idk what to say..
***I forgot to add that he wanted to text like every hour 24/7 and would always want to see me everyday.. idk I just found him so cringe 😬
Idk…if my boyfriend repeatedly told me that there were no girls around him even though i never asked nor have ever shown/expressed any insecurity of him cheating on me..him doing that all day would just make me believe that he’s lying. Because why are you telling me this? I trust you and i hope that you trust me too. I’ve never heard of Western/American men doing this but the insecurity from both genders and their partner hanging out with the opposite gender is definitely there. It’s one of the biggest debates i see all the time. It’s so silly lmao
Also, didn’t i read somewhere that a large percentage of Korean women expect their boyfriend/husband to cheat on them at least once while they’re together (considering how common infidelity is)? I’m sorry but those women who bragged about this are most likely no longer with that partner because they must’ve turned out to be just like this guy lol it’s very weird and territorial. The men/women who do this (constant check ins)- they already know that you don’t/can’t trust them to cheat and only cheaters are understanding of this.
A normal person would either call you out for not trusting them, break up with you…or try and talk with you on why you’re not 100% comfortable in the relationship. It could be past trauma though.
Just because they call doesn't mean he's doing what he says. I had a boyfriend that would leave me stranded at home & never come home. So, I moved out & left him in the apartment. Then he could pay full rent, electric, etc & not ask me for $$. What a waste of time.
Gurl my birthday is 11/11 like peppero day 😱 awesome video btw! But like what’s up with the dude? Like what is his deal? So creepy!
The only thing I have to say is to tell your S.O. where you are just incase you get into trouble so you can let them know. Usually you should tell your trusted family member/trusted friend where you are if you do go out. The only reason why I say this is because women typically get assaulted or kidnapped on outings. So I am afraid of going missing and if I do go missing I'll want to leave the easiest trail so I can be found. It is girl code, there have been many times where I have been followed/tracked/pursued BUT nobody would know where I went if the creep actually kidnapped me because I didn't tell someone where I was. BUT there's a point where it becomes controlling if your S.O. pressures you to tell you your location and who you're with constantly. They don't want to help you, they want to control you and make sure they have control over you knowing this info. And then they can use their insecurities to guilt trip you. The reason why people glorify boyfriends for telling their girlfriends their locations is because they think their boyfriends are doing this out of love but in reality it is performative so they can compensate for their obsessive behavior and so they can use it as an excuse and gaslight you whenever they are toxic to you. They try to justify their abuse by using this form of passive love-bombing.
You had a guy that really was interested in you and you call him a creep that's why man don't want to ask women out anymore
my favourite korean- kelsey the queen
Kelsey, I love you hahaha that’s story it’s wild, that type of behavior it’s not ok
How many exes do you have?
Oml why dO you Want to know?💀💀
Lmao
Omg. Half way thru and I’m terrified!