For all those who've seen these before, I've fixed a few mistakes (fittingly, I'd forgotten Bunet had +1 to his Luck cap) and added some new info to Celine (comments pointed out the Marth and Sigurd thing and I felt it needed mentioning), and tiny extra to Kagetsu's because lol. Editing this together made me realize how much I miss this cast. I've realized that this is probably my favourite cast in the series gameplay-wise. Although there's some balance issues, everyone is usable as both a short-term and long-term unit and besides the trainees everyone joins at a good level for their chapter so can easily slot into a team. Also, I just found out Engage has surpassed Three Houses (which itself had surpassed Xenoblade 2 AND 3) as my most-played Switch game!
Mine looks to be: 1. Skyrim (765 hours) 2. Pokemon Violet (605 hours) 3. Monster Hunter Rise (530 hours) Honorary mention to the RUclips app at 2730 hours thanks to watching a lot of videos on my Switch while recovering from surgery back in 2019.
@@nachohangover5104 Hey at least Panette is balanced by needing a high investment build to get a big payoff. Kagetsu is balanced by... being only a good unit instead of a great one for like 2 chapters?
At least Kagetsu has to wait a few chapters for a good reclass, if you don't have the DLC. (Though then you lose the awesome Swordmaster crit animation)
@@BigKlingy He's good enough to make Swordmaster work anyway (as in, he's still good, but not borderline gamebreaking), and keeping the drip outweighs any potential drawbacks this decision might have If you're winning without looking stylish, are you really winning at all?
Swear to god Engage was made without reclassing in mind (exception Jean who was a late addition.) Everything makes so much more sense if that's the case, like Bunet having low personal bases to compensate for high class bases and Pandreo having high personal bases to compensate for low class bases, or Kagetsu being balanced by being stuck in a bad class.
Looking for music to use for this, I forgot how many good songs Annas shops have had. Especially Shadow Dragon having a different theme for the Secret Shop.
A fun fact i learned about the dlc dragon siblings: they can use Veyle's obscurite tome, which is more significant for Nel as it is for Rafal, since she has the better mag stat and can actually be a really decent lance mage knight that way
I've been waiting for something like this because I'm seriously considering buying Engage for Christmas so this will be very handy. Can't wait for the Emblem Bio Compilation (assuming you make that).
That's kind of what I was hoping. That this could be a resource to people. I'm not intending this to be about full-on efficiency, just "here's what each character is good/bad at, if you want to use them." I'll probably do the Emblems at some point.
On Panette: Her Proficiency in Knives makes it so that she gets S knives as a wolf knight, which is honestly nice since you can get both S rank knives from the story. Wolf Knight patches up her speed issue pretty well. When I did Maddening I had Wolf Knight Panette (with Wrath!) paired with Lucina, giving her the extra speed and dex she wants, along with a nice bonus of being able to dual assist poison.
@@Edgeperor Because this is a different build built around having 90% Crit instead of 100% on a 1-2 range weapon but having 2 opps to double, plus it's cheap and there isn't much else to spend 500 SP on, plus extra speed means doubled less means tankier Ike user.
@@LoudWaffleBetter to do that with Warrior than Berserker though The only thing Berserker has over Warrior is getting to keep Panette's drip intact... which might just be worth it...
Surprised you didn't mention the busted Framme/Lucina dual guard build. She will have so much evade due to her supports enemies won't attack her while she makes the people next to her completely immune to damage
I alluded to that, with saying how she supports a lot of really good characters. Basically I was trying not to spoil exactly when Emblems were obtained until after you get them, so I didn't want to DIRECTLY mention the Framme/Lucina build but did allude to it a few times. (Mentions of "the Chapter 11 Emblem")
Wow, been a while since someone mentioned that one. I've thought about that game a few times. It had a unique premise and a lot of good ideas, and a decent PC port. But it ended up mostly forgotten, sadly.
I started a new playthrough recently, and I chose to use some characters I never used long term or at all in my previous runs. Like Chloe, Etie, Citrinne, and Bunet (…yes him. Also, lol thumbnail!). Citrinne’s been an excellent Sage especially with Byleth equipped. Etie’s tough to use because of her starting rut, but making her Warrior temporarily really fixed her. Chloe’s done…Good Enough? I’ve had to rewind a lot for her because she kept dying, but she’s improved in the later half with the help of a Lyn/Sigurd skill combo. Hopefully that’ll stick. And finally Bunet, I gave him a Speedwing after he joined, and he’s surprisingly gained speed on most of his levels, although his strength is lacking as a draw back. Otherwise, he’s been doing his job well enough as a mobile tank. Even gained some appreciation for him as a character in some of his supports, he’s actually quite wholesome when he’s not wanting to lick everything. Watching your playthrough motivated me to play this game more, and you taught me a lot of neat tricks that have worked wonders for this run. Thank you for this BigKlingy. 👍
Anyone who's played XB3 will have already heard it a billion times, but... Chain Attacks are good in Engage and Boucheron is basically "early Chain Attacks, the character."
One quick note about Diamant: His personal skill only requires that he initiates combat and the foe is able to counter attack. It does NOT require the foe be at full health (I believe you were thinking of Xander's Personal skill when you said that, as the two characters are quite similar and their personal skills are both related to honor). This makes Diamant a very good Player Phase unit, as he still benefits from Fair Fight if he Breaks his opponent, making him a good initiator against Lance and Axe foes. If he doesn't kill them, he can then contribute with Dual Strikes when another unit moves in to mop up. Diamant should usually be the first unit you use on your turn. You can also reclass him into Hero to further lean into this strategy with Brave Assist (while potentially giving him Lances, rather than Axes if you so desire, as he joins while you still have the Sigurd ring). Unless you plan on giving him something like the Ike/Hector or even the Roy ring and patching up his Dex with a Skill inherit from an Emblem Ring, it's probably better to straight up ignore Successeur, much like how Alfred tends to perform better as a Paladin, rather than as an Avenir.
If you’re reclassing Diamant, he should be going into wyvern. Brave Assist isn’t actually that good of a skill, and Hero just reduces all of his other stats comparing to Succ
@@Edgeperor The reason I suggested Hero was for Brave Assist, which he gets with Successeur. So if you wanted to use Diamant as intended, Hero is a better class for him. Obviously, Wyvern is literally the best class for all physical units who aren't classing into Warrior. And that's a REAL problem, gameplay-wise.
@@Edgeperor I'm saying that if you want to keep Diamant as a backup unit, he performs that role better as a Hero than as a Successeur. Successeur gives him Sol, which is extremely unreliable due to the low Dex cap of his native class. Instead, he should be classed as a Hero so he can Brave Assist. If you want to ditch his Backup status, class him as a Wyvern. And yeah, I see where the confusion occurred, I think my brain skipped a sentence while I was writing it.
10/10 Thumbnail. I approve of Bunet getting his own bottom tier. Xp But again though, surreal to think we're at the bio compilations for Engage already. Felt like yesterday when we started this LP. At the very least, it's fun getting to hear these again. Will be keeping all of this in mind come the start of next year when I'll probably be jumping into my Maddening Mode Run. Also those post-edit notes during Clanne's bio. LMAO #Clanne4Endgame In other news, a lot since the last video, but I'll probably break it up all down with the next LP.
The thumb does hurt me a bit but after my Birthright playthrough, I am very eager to use Bunet in my next Engage playthrough. I did learn a good amount around this time mainly because of my brother's Maddening playthrough where I had a better idea of the personal base stats and also the power of Etie due to her strength advantage over Alcryst and Citrinne being fast enough to double as a Mage Knight thanks to Speed + and the Elfire not weighing her down. The information will be nice for theory crafting my builds for my next playthrough since I want to get very creative. I did always think that Clanne was pretty rad in my first playthrough since he could convincedly attack both physically and magically there. It was good to see him go even further in this playthrough but is he better than Subaki? I did a lot but it is easy to recap. I got to 99.4% in R Racing Evolution after going through the story mode on Hard which wasn't too bad. Too bad I can't get to go 100% that easily unless I really want to playthrough the NTSC version instead. Birthright is done and fully uploaded as well and it was a very enjoyable experience that was more fun than I was expecting to play and record. I also figured out what to do for my break where I show off some pretty cool games on my channel as one off videos but I finished recording all of the games I wanted to show so it will be back to recording Fates, this time with Conquest. I have missed talking to you and I will be eagerly anticipating hearing about what you got up to as well.
It's only like that because when I made my tier list simply for how much I liked everyone as CHARACTERS... Bunet got his own tier at the bottom because... bunet. He's the ONE character who made me think "who thought this was a good idea?"
@@BerserkerRohan In that case, sorry for rubbing salt in the wound with that remark. Xp Yeah between Klingy's LP and Watching your brother's run, you have loads of knowledge and many more obvious ideas to have fun with in your next run of Engage. Seems like your Clanne was trying to foretell of the power of #Clanne4Endgame come Klingy's LP. lol Again, annoying you're not allowed to get 100% completion because of that glitch, but I hope the 99.4% is at least comforting enough. Yeah saw that and congrats on finishing up that LP. And I hope your break will let you come up with some fun ideas for the next LP. Also you weren't kidding about Subaki actually being good in your run where he more or less got third place in your unit rankings. Xp It'll be fun to catch up to you too, though I'll try to lessen the gap and be a bit more active with messages so we don't go through a drought of talks.
@@BigKlingy I do remember that tier list you made about how you like each character, but I still like to think the Bunet tier also applies to his gameplay performance as well. lol But yeah, Bunet is certainly the character who made me go "Why are you like this" the most too.
@@jaredfayette2567 Bunet does stick out really badly in this cast but that kind of makes him more charming to me. It will be a fun playthrough. The question will be when shall I do that playthrough since I have a lot of options of what game I can play next. I did always think he was a fun Mage Knight. Maybe it is time to use him again with my greater knowledge of the game. It will be fine and does give me a reason to check out the NTSC version if I want 100% but that will happen at a later point. Things are all planned out for the playthrough and I hope it will prove a very fun one. Subaki and Hayato proved to be the MVPs in the run which is funny to think about. Again, I will be looking forward to hearing more from you.
Of all the characters he could play... still, every VA has roles like this sometimes. It's still not as bad as Faye Mata (Petra's VA) playing an infamous character from Rising of the Shield Hero, who she hates and the fanbase despises too. But SOMEONE has to voice these characters.
I've never been a fan of tier lists, since I don't think they make sense for single-player games. Most units in Fire Emblem do very different things for you and it's hard to compare their roles, like some tier lists rate Thieves extremely high just for the items/chests they steal despite their bad combat. I prefer to show the characters stats, growths and skills and give an overview of their individual strengths and weaknesses. Also I don't like to judge people for using "low-tier" units, it's single-player, you can use whoever you want.
While there are obviously units that stand above others, what i really like about this FE, is that all units are viable and can become good for maddening.
I was surprised to hear the comments about Timerra. In all of my playthroughs, she always very quickly becomes one of my best units - particularly as a tank. A few level ups in her base class, and she becomes practically unkillable having really good Defense, Resistance, and Avoid. Paired with an Emblem that has Defense capabilities, such as Ike, Corrin, or Hector, she becomes an incredible unit for baiting enemies to their death. I find that she’s especially deadly when outfitted with a Killer Lance and a Spear to switch between depending on the situation. In doing this, it allows her to bait and just absolutely _obliterate_ hordes of enemies, or at least weaken them significantly so that other allies can quickly follow up.
A lot of people really like Timerra. And I do too, a lot. I've used her in most of my runs. She takes work, and I personally wish her concept was handled a little better. She DOES hold her own in her join chapter on Maddening, which is impressive.
It's been a while, but I think I put tiki on seadall since dance is one of the few (if not only?) Class skills you can use while transformed so it lets him dance and put himself in danger to do so with Tiki’s tanky transform
This is what I've been doing too, it lets Seadall be much more aggressive with his Dancing. He can also still use Chain Guard if he has to. Having a tanky Dancer really helps enable the rest of the team. Sometimes things go South and you need him in a risky spot, Engaging with Tiki almost guarantees he won't be targeted.
Timerra works when you get her Class ability after level 5 that basically makes her a Critical Hit machine. Her dexterity becomes her chances landing a critical blow. She is a Frontliner that has saved my army a couple of times but I admit it took me a while to understand how she works
@@BigKlingy I felt overwhelmed with all the units and how best to use them, but this provides such clarity. Im on chapter 10 and reclassing some of my units as you suggested, Im taking etie to axe fighter > warrior, and taking Louis to Lance fighter > halberdier. Really smart suggestions weaning off armor units for a more player-phase focused team, and not doing Anna as a sage because of her horrendous base mag. Overall just a really thoughtful guide that helped tremendously.
I've read once that if you're willing to forge a Hurricane Axe that you get in chapter 14, and give it Ike's engraving, Jade as a General with only 6 base magic and OHKO Griffon and Wyvern Knights. I actually want to try it out.
I like reclassing mauvier to wyvern knight as the class has a weirdly high magic cap combined with a good defense cap two of his best traits and while it isn't perfect due to break and 2 range sometimes he can enemy phase with a hurricane axe using his still really high base magic to instant kill on retaliation, that base 20 might can get funny when used right
@@pandabanaan9208 That does sound funny. I also found out that you can even give him Vantage+ since it’s apparently a way to bypass the penalty of smash weapons making you go second.
Despite what anyone says, I’m a officially a Fire Emblem fan thanks to Engage. This play has been fun. For better or worse, and I want to give my opinions on each unit. 0:00 Alear is the most standard lord, but Alear plays to the strengths of this game really well. Starting with the Marth Emblem and having low SP costs meaning that by getting to Rank 10 with Marth, which is easy to do, Alear can be a great dodge tank. Alear's exclusive class means he gets the most Emblem bonuses out of any character in the game until Veyle. Really their main weakness is their magic stat, meaning that Celica and Micaiah aren't the best choices to boost Alear's damage. If there is any consolation to doing this, more magic for the Levin Sword (the only 1-2 range option they have unitl they get Wille Glanz), and with Micaiah, they give Alear extra range in Staves. Alear is a lot more versatile than one might think because Alear takes full advantage of what the game wants you to do. 4:45 Vander is the Jaegan that will only last you for so long, but his personal skill is actual decent for Alear if they and Vander have the Killer Weapons. But really, the only way Vander can be useful is with Tiki and Edelgard Linage and Starsphere skills. If Vander wasn't a Jaegan, he would have been a great unit... I think. 7:34 You got extremely lucky with Clanne, #Clanne4Endgame 9:44 Framme is surprising useful thanks to being one of the only Qi Adepts in the game. It's just a matter of her getting good level ups is the problem. If Framme is just as lucky as Clanne was here, she can be the best Bond Shield user and Micaiah user. but again, that's if your lucky. I wasn't sadly and I gave her up. 11:58 Alfred. Poor Alfred, out of all of the Royals in the game, he got stuck with the worst class. The final stat cap for Avenir is not bad IMO, but the thing that could have made him better, was if Golden Lotus halved damage for ALL attacks. With Gentility, he would have made for a better tank. But no… That being said, there is a reason why I kept him in my final team over Amber. As an early unit who will be able to use Marth and Sigurd after Chapter 3 that means he has more chances to get their skills while Amber joins around the time where will she won’t have enough time to invest. (Better than Jade at least, but still). Alfred is usable. That’s all I will say and I’m glad I didn’t give up on him. Alas, he could have been better. 14:47 Poor Etie, outclassed by Alcryst is every way. I’m sorry Etie fans, but in all of my Playthroughs, I just couldn’t find use for Etie. By the time I got Alcryst, I saw no point in using her. 16:52 Early chain attack user. I guess… 19:49 A hybrid physical and magical attacking unit with Ignis, and staff utility. Céline has a lot to work with once she promotes, she starts with Celica and has the exact boosts she needs to make use of her starting ring right away. As a Mystical unit she does more damage with Warp Ragnarok (boosted with Ignis). Her real weakness are the lack of build which holds her speed cap (which is not bad) and her stats aren’t nearly as high as others. But her luck makes her a great Byleth user. 22:57 Despite General not being a good class and one too many Lance Users (one of my biggest grips with Engage Gameplay wise), but I think Louis and Chloé does a better job with Lances. Louis with max build means that he can use both of the S Rank Lances better than Timerra since he doesn’t need speed and has more attack power. Louis and Sigurd is master piece of a pair because giving an Armor unit more Mobility is glorious. 25:29 Chloé is my favorite unit from Firene gameplay wise. She has good growths of Strength and Magic which lets her use all of the Emblems well to some degree, and her cap speed as Griffon Knight. It’s a chef’s kiss. Despite being another Lance user, it works because with Sigurd and Marth, they better mobility, attack power, and movement or speed. With a cap of 52, she always double and avoid getting doubled herself. And she has Staff usage. So feel free to use Micaiah on her. So I made my peace. Chloé is the best Firene character as a unit, I wished I like her character and support with Alear more. 28:10 One of the only main chain guards who will get thanks to his starting class. But as a trainee unit with healing, level up is a grind but will gain the boost in stats need to be great at anything. But with the classes he is best known for (Martial Master and Martial Priest), do you make Jean into an another chain guard user, or a magic attacker with an S rank in Staffs? Pick your poison. Other than that, Jean is whatever you want him to be if you’re diligent with him. 31:05 My girl, Yunaka! The Corrin Yunaka build is busted (a little bit too much), but I wonder if I should try a Wrath Vantage combo on her…? Hmmm. As I was saying, Yunaka is great for debilitating or killing. 34:01 Is the investment to get more money worth it? You tell me… 37:28 Alcryst may not be Diamant, but that Dex and Strength is all he needs to be better than Etie in every way. His personal promotional class skill Luna will Pierce through defense like a hot knife through butter. Luna Astra Storm anyone. But part is, Luna works well with most other attacks as well with Crits to boost the damage. But as an Archer, without a mini bow, he’s going to be unable to Counterattack. Overall, Alcryst is the best archer and one of the best units in Engage IMO. 39:48 Poor girl. Horribly outclassed by Kagetsu. But if you want to use her, I won’t stop you. 42:37 Citrinne is only here if Clanne and Céline aren’t making the cut. I will admit that she has potential for being a good Olwen user. 46:50 Diamant comes first here because he is the crown prince of Brodia and the first Roy user. Sadly, his poor Dex. I’m sorry but, Alcryst is better for damage control. Despite that, he is a backup unit, so with Dual Assist, he can be a good Chain Attack assets. My personal favorite use for him is with Wrath and Vantage with Roy equipped. Diamant has better staying power than Alcryst. So that’s a huge point in his favor. 44:38 Amber turned out better than I thought. Maybe I treated him too harshly. But I doubt he will be on my Maddening team… 49:47 Poor Jade. Honestly, you really need to be conservative of Bond Fragments and Skill books if you REALLY want to use her, as to me, being an Axe Armored Unit is her saving grace. If it wasn’t for the Fell Xenologue where use can potentially get a better one sooner… oof 51:38 Ivy… Ivy Ivy Ivy. I really love Ivy, one of my favorites in the game but where as Bigklingy loves Ivy as a unit, I’m personally mixed. Thankfully, she starts with the Lyn Emblem, which fixes her main weaknesses (Speed and Dexterity). But good lord, it’s either focus on giving more power or making sure she herself doesn’t get doubled and killed or needing to hit. Because of her low Dex, I find her unbearable to use most of the time. Speaking of her Dex, Grasping Void is extremely unreliable IMO. It only works with Tomes (so only Warp Ragnarok and Cataclysm will work) and it depends on the magic of her target when she may have the damage she needs to destroy Armor units. That being said, her saving graces prevents her from being far from bad. Unlike Veyle, she has higher build and can fly, she has Staff usage, and is obtained earlier than Veyle. Ivy made me realize how much I underestimated the Surge tomes in their usage. 56:08 Kagetsu. Need I say more? I like using him as Swordmaster, a bad class maybe, but I love that Critcal Hit animation. 54:35 I may *consider* using Zelkov in my Maddening Run *if* he does well… 58:21 Fogado is an interesting unit, he lacks the raw power of Alcryst and his Luna attacks and doesn’t have an S Rank in Bows. But he makes up for it by being a Calvary Unit that can use Swords. And his speed cap is among one of the highest in the game. Also, Back at you is a personal class skill that I don’t think is that good but still has some uses. He might work with a Wrath and Vantage combo when using Veronica as Reprisal will stack with Back at you for more damage. 1:00:29 Kagetsu as a healer. Another character I might consider for Maddening. 1:02:08 By the way, you can’t bring Bento 🍱 to the Fell Xenologue. Sorry Bunet. 1:03:45 Timerra. Ok @Bigklingy. I guess we are rivals now, you think Ivy is amazing while I am mixed, where I think Timerra is a great unit (albeit struggles a lot) while you think she is bad. That being said, Timerra is not the best Great Aether user. Sandstorm is still satisfying to see activate and kill a unit Timerra would have struggled with otherwise. And by the way, I have reached the 400 hit damage with Timerra and Hector vs Wyvern Knights. It’s beautiful. 1:06:54 Merrin and the Wolf Knight, a great class for debilitating, great class for damage and with Sword and Knife usage, Merrin can be really enjoyable when invested in. 1:08:37 unpopular opinion: Panette is overrated. I argue moreso than Yunaka with Corrin. Don’t get me wrong, he is really good, but her Dex… and the trial maps taught me something important: A powerful attack means nothing if you can’t hit. So she needs Hit rate fixing to be at her best. 1:17:12 Her chain attacking Elegance is too strong for mere mortals to stand up to.
@@BigKlingy I was alseep at the time and I need time to give my opinions on each unit with the frame of RUclips’s text limit. I will be more diligent for the Emblem Video. I think talking about the Emblems is much easier than talking about the units.
Etie is just better than Alycryst btw. I agree neither are super great but Etie has a massive strength lead (She comes at level 4 with 1 less than he has at level 10, if you use her at all it will be higher than his). The dex difference often doesn't matter since there are tons of engraves that boost hit and you should be using engraved weapons. For example, when both are 15/10 Etie will have 10 more strength than Alcryst, while Alcryst's only notable advantage is 3 extra speed. The speed lead is negligible since both want Lyn anyway and both don't double reliably without Lyn and do double reliably with Lyn. I'd rather reliably one-round with the massive strenght lead than have to rely on Luna rng. If you want a fast bow unit (on average a 5.5 speed lead when compared at 17/13, only growing more with time) Fogado also has far more power than Alrcryst with the Radiant bows massive base might while also having great synergy with Erika (lunar brace for his massive speed easily quadding with the brave bow and the + 5 raw damage from bravery and extra mag for the radiant bow). Use whoever of course, Alcryst keeps getting overrated though when he doesn't preform great. Thought he was better as well because he feels better on join but that's mainly just his better weapons when he joins (which both can use anyway) and many just ignoring Etie when she joins. When their stats are compared his aren't favorable.
I admit I use Alcryst mainly for his character, and for keeping Covert in his personal class (while I prefer Etie in Warrior) I'm definitely in the "he and Etie are about the same" boat and don't rate him insanely high.
my bunet paired with ike could single handled almost every map, he was my strongest unit (thanks also to some perfect level up), so i was very surprised when you started talking about me
On my first playthrough I was messing around with Emblems and gave Celica to Louis it was quite fun to play around with and with a few good level ups and he even got some Magic level ups causing him to hit harder it was quite fun
I'll always find it funny that diamant gets sol with a dex cap of 23. (not that 23% chance is an awful chance, but is much lower than most modern games since awakening). Main thing though is that fair fight is always active when he initiates which does a fair bit to patch up his shaky hit rates. and despite that i found successor to be on the better end of personal class promos given how well rounded it is physically.
Still not as painful as Meg in Radiant Dawn trying to be the "speedy armour" but having the worst tier 3 speed cap of all of them, while Gatrie has a better cap AND speed growth AND his other stats don't suck.
I have a weird theory that Lapis and Etie's personalities got swapped somewhere during development, because there's a couple of references to Lapis being strong and her first line is really out-of-character for her.
My Timerra was a monster on my first Maddening run, but I did have a plan for her build (no pun intended) before starting my run. I think she's one of the few units in the game that makes good use of Leif to patch up her build problems and with sandstorm she has the potential to either delete an enemy or do no damage with quadruple hit lol. I also inherited resolve+ and gentility+ on her (obviously heavy investment here) and she ended up being one of my endgame units.
I've used Leif on her a bit. Once I tried Marth, thinking he'd mean more chances for Sandstorm, but he wasn't that great on her. Also I noticed the Sonic avatar and... for some reason Sonic has lived rent-free in my head for the past week and I see references EVERYWHERE.
A few days ago, literally right as I was thinking "Sonic is living rent-free in my head right now, what's happening" a kid with a Sonic shirt walked past. I didn't find it annoying, just hilarious.
If Sandstorm had a higher proc rate or it was the personal skill and allowed reclassing, I could see a meme build working, but right now after 3 attempts she ends up mid even after favoritism on hard, can't imagine it working on Maddening.
So somethings I did my first run I reclassed Chloe to Royal Knight. I found this kept most of the perks of Griffon Knight, while only losing flying access which would be a big loss but Sigurd gives enough movement anyways for it to work. It also allows Chloe to be a good mixed attacker, using her magic and the flamelance to be really effective. I also reclassed Anna to Wolf Knight and gave her a levin sword. Really effective unit able to dodge tank most things, retaliate, have good luck, and just be a great money farmer. Getting into DLC here, but Citrinne I kept as a Sage, but I gave her Soren. This combined with Roy's holdout brought back the days of Awakening Nosferatsu tanking and turned her into a big enemy phase clearer. I also gave Camilla to Panette, enhancing her mobility and letting her in a big AOE with a big axe for big damage. Also some minor reclass bits I found useful, Jade really suffers when using axes, so I reclassed her to the sword variant and have had no issues with her. Swords really fix her hit rate issues and make her able to nearly stand equal to Louis. Yunaka did fall off for me on hard, but I did train her back up to be top tier in endgame. In particular, she did really well as a Halberdier when I put her there to patch up her stats. Celine despite being a mixed attacker was my best magical unit until I trained Citrinne up near lategame. Even then she still hit hard and her versatility was always useful. Framme also fell off but then I made her a high priest and she became godly. Final unit I want to mention is Lapis, personally I kept her as swordmaster, and found that by investing heavily into crit on her she was able to keep up, especially with Chrom's skill making crits deal more damage.
Royal Knight and Griffon Knight have the exact same strength (being 7 base and 10% growth) so there isn’t really any offensive benefit to going royal knight
It's weird because Rosado's growths are very high but his base stats are oddly low for a late-game Wyvern. Especially base Strength, despite him being tied for highest personal strength growth with Panette and Amber (outside of DLC). As I said, he's still a free flier and that alone is decent.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is the "stat cap" you mentioned several times? Im kinda new to the series and have never heard this term but seems important
Every class has a maximum value for each stat. This is as high as that stat can go and it will glow... I think blue in Engage, on the stat screen if it's at that point. In newer games like Engage, every character has modifiers to their caps, those are the pluses and minuses you see at the bottom of the slides here. These modify the class caps. For example, Divine Dragon has a Strength cap of 41. Alear has +1 to the Strength cap, so for them it'll be 42. In a lot of Fire Emblem games caps aren't that important because you don't need stats that high to beat the game. In Engage, caps are JUST enough that you can reasonably cap some stats on your main party by the final chapter, and it DOES help. Also, I approve of your Avatar. Poppi is best robot.
7:34 one thing that I suggest is reassessing Vender to warrior & sticking Veronica on him I find back up units to be my favorite for her, this allows him to go for a more supporting role, with contract, healing, book of worlds if you ever want, Granted, I still don’t use him often, but I have played around with this set a bit and I do like it, just depends if you’re willing to give up a second seal for this tbf
Okay, specifically with DLC, Anna becomes arguably the best tank in the game, fearing literally nothing besides the final boss, enemy engage attacks, the fell wyrms with 4 range attacks, and post-endgame tempest trial difficulty units. Oh, and enemy High Priests with their maddening skill. Kinda also enemies with Silence or Fracture staves, but she has such high staff avoid (101, to be exact) that many don't even try to use them on her (since for both of them, the staff's base hit requires them to have 32 dex to have a 1% chance to hit her, which, fun fact, most enemy staff users don't have, since the cap for them is 31). As a High Priest, she caps out at a whopping 100 damage output exactly (96 as a Sage), not including crits, enemy res, or chain attacks. This is with a Revelations-engraved Elthunder+5, allowing her to counter longbows too - and countering is what she does, with Vantage, Reprisal from Veronica's bracelet, and Hold Out. Speaking of crits, she has a decently high crit rate (46% if enemy dodge is 0, meaning it'll usually be above 33%), so she often does over 200~250 damage to enemies. She has even oneshot one of the final boss's HP bars on Maddening despite the gimmick still being partially in play (FB+, IIRC). She can even lean further into the crit side of things with Wrath if you devote a turn or three to chipping her HP with Vein of Flame tiles instead of bringing Hold Out. By doing that, her crit rate goes up by 30, all the way to 76% before support bonuses. She's a consistent MVP alongside Panette (same build but Wolf Knight with Blazing-engraved Cinquedea and Roy's ring) and Spoiler Character 2 (Soren's bracelet, Fates-engraved Spoiler Tome, Divine Pulse+, and Mag/Dex+5 or Quick Riposte). All three of them can and have one-round the Maddening final boss's crystals from full when the gimmick is only half-solved. Now, I will say, anyone can do the same thing as her if given the same class, tome, bracelet, and skills, but her growths in particular make her the best suited for capping the three stats the build cares about (HP, Mag, and Dex, with Luck and Res as mostly an added bonus). She and Spoiler Character 1 are also the only two units in the game who have a positive cap modifier for both Mag and Dex. Since you recruit the latter so late into the game it's hard to really build them into much of anything, she's definitely the better option. Lindon could be better too, since many enemies will have better than B ranked weapons, giving him +20 crit, but... same issue as Spoiler Character 1, recruited too late to do much of anything.
On my first Maddening run right now, I hadn't played the game since launch meaning I had forgotten about Kagetsu and Pandreo so I put stat boosting Items onto Lapis and Celine, so when these 2 showed up the sunk cost fallacy made me skip them, I am just now learning that I'm apparently doing an accidental challenge run lol.
Lapis and Celine are still usable on Maddening, which is good. There's also no reason you can't ALSO use Kagetsu and Pandreo, if you need more physical or magic fighters.
Huh I've always thought that Alfred was pretty decent and Basically disregarded Louis for the most part. Im still in early game though (chapter 10) so my opinion could probably change later. It's just interesting to learn how my opinion of certain units differ from other units. Also I didn't know about Celine's synergy with marth and Sigurd in her class promotion. I want to try it now.
I didn't know about Celine's combo with Marth and Sigurd either until comments mentioned it. Something I love about Engage is that it feels like every time I look at a comments section, I find a new way of using Emblems that I never considered before.
"Goldmary can do decent as a GK or general, but she does the hero assist part so well, its a shame to change her out of it." also she is the only one in the game that doesn't need to wear that horrible hero outfit.
Bear in mind, I used Timerra extensively in a full Let's Play. I like Timerra a lot, both in character and gameplay, I just acknowledge that she has major drawbacks you need to work around, in a game where a lot of the playable cast don't.
I honestly believe the payoff is worth the effort. Anna IMO is way more investment for return. Timmerra just needs to get to lvl 5 in Picket(in Maddening). After that it's a matter of equipping the right emblem ring, (Ike or Roy or Erika). And then a forged Javelin (which you should already have). Give her SPD+, or DEX+, SPD/DEX+, (if you have the DLC), or Lance Power, or Lunar Brace. These are things you'd naturally do for any unit.
ruclips.net/video/s83zft4jIag/видео.htmlsi=A8JNm5mX1w7AVF8n Icedcoffeegaming has a whole series of videos where he proves that Timmerra is actually one the best units on return of investment in the game. It comes down to how her attributes are geared towards taking advantage of all of Engage's new mechanical interactions. Her bases and growths meet just the right benchmarks. Check out his vids on character builds, there's an Ivy/Corrin build that can straight up solo most late game maps.
Framme is one of the best characters in the game, it is completely hidden from new players who dont know how the game plays out. Anna is best as Griffon knight with Levin sword, put Sigurd engrave on the levin sword use avoid and or sword power with luck+ skill paired with luck boosting emblem and she quickly can become one of the best units in the game being a super dodge tank and 1 round KO on enemy phase while making your army money which is really needed on maddening especially when paired with the aforementioned Framme.
16:53 there’s an evil voice on your shoulder, telling you to make Mage knight Boucheron, listen to that voice!! XD Personally, I just find it funny, because of his high dexterity & personal working on every brave hit, I thought, giving him a brave weapon is best, which is true, but you can turn the Wind tome into a brave weapon with the Soren Bond ring from Ike, and with good speed, 4 hits with wind on true damage :3c You can pair this with Alear support, Celica’s resonance, or heck! Get Emblem Soren’s anima focus to make wind also give the hobbling effect (with a bonus to fire/lighting too) You can also pair this up with the Chrobin emblem to always give yourself a back up & +10 magic, he probably won’t be your best magic unit, but come on! Be silly!! Mage is funny!! 😝
I'm assuming this analysis is based off of maddening mode? I was just wondering about it because some of the units who I thought excelled for me on hard is considered not good on maddening. I went out of my way to break Diamant on my second playthrough (hard/classic) and the consensus is that he's terrible on maddening. I was never that daring to play maddening ever anyways, but knowing that most of the units I personally love are considered bad stops me from ever playing that mode on Engage. To be fair, if your talking only about Diamants base states, that's totally fair, but I knew this the second time around and there's an argument to be made you can make any of the characters good with the right abilities and engravings. I pretty much fixed Diamant's dex issue by giving him +5 Dex from Lucina with a crit engraving on his killer sword and Revange ax so he crits pretty much every other turn (I was told that Revange ax might be shitty, idk I like it though.) I had put speedtaker on him for a time until I could give him some speed boost through boot items, once I took that off, I switched between duel assist+ and lifespear so that he can heal then tank/crit which is what I want him to do. Anyways I just think it's an interesting discussion. I'm on the last chapter and he doubles and kills pretty much everything. I won't speak much on maddening, but I feel you can fix most characters flaws in this game if you prep beforehand. Then again, hard mode for Engage feels like normal mode (compared to something like Conquest anyway) but that's just my gamer brain opinion that plays fire emblem games for fun.
I feel like nearly everyone can be made viable on Maddening in this game. Looking back I was too harsh on Diamant here, especially since a lot of the fixes I mentioned for Ivy later can easily be applied to him. For context, I used Diamant in my first playthrough and ended up somewhat disappointed by him at the end of the game, and this was on Hard. That gave me a slight bias against him, I'll admit. I don't think I worked hard enough to fix his accuracy problem. (Didn't help that his main Emblem was Ike, and I kept him in his personal class meaning Sol was ruining Wrath)
@@BigKlingy I found putting Lucina on him fixes most of his problems. Along with the +5 Dex you can inherit from her, Lucina also gives him an additional +3 (or 5? I think it was 3 though) in dex that stacks on top of what he already has if you max their bond. I'm not at my switch to check at the moment but I believe Lucina buffs his speed and strength as well. I ran Ike on Diamant too the first time around, which worked well enough if you built him to tank, but my second run, I built him to crit which I found can be done after my last playthrough. Wrath does help, but sadly for me, I didn't do that for my last run because I forgot that ability exists...oops.. There are a couple of different abilities I have yet to try, if I ran Diamant a third time, I bet I could break him even more, but because SP is so limited in this game with no new game plus option, things I would have liked to do (like putting +3 dex/strength on him through 3H crew) was pretty much impossible. No one is getting 8000 SP in this game without excessive grinding and I hate grinding in this game because skirmishes take way too long to complete. .
His growths are actually jacked, but his bases are so bad that it’s near impossible to actually capitalize on it. Not only does he start at an abysmal 5 base speed (which makes doubling impossible) but he also has such little build that he gets weighed down by his own iron lance. Also, Avenir is just a worse Great Knight.
I've heard a lot of people say that but I never felt that? A lot of characters are capable of growths in the 50-60 range and to me that feels about as high as they should go. (Aside from really min-maxed characters, like Louis' defense) I think it helps that base stats feel a lot more balanced to the enemies in this game, as in most people have enough stats to do their main job from the moment they join, while still growing if you keep using them. In some other FEs, base stats feel too under-tuned to the point where getting unlucky with growths screws you over, or too over-tuned to the point where growths don't matter.
@@thanakoto2239 I once calculated the average growth rates for every game out of curiosity. I remember Awakening being among the highest. (Many games average around 40, I think Awakening's average growths were at least 50, maybe even 60.)
For me on my last run, Clanne. He got insanely lucky and somehow got god-tier level ups for the entire earlygame that carried him the entire rest of the way. But broadly, I found out his "high Speed, mid Magic" setup made him very easy to "fix" with magic-boosting Emblems. (Similar to how I like Strength boosting Emblems on Lapis)
I still haven't finished my first playthough of this game. I just don't feel like it the game for me but I've been going back to 3 houses instead. And I'm just to addicted to Animal crossing New horizons too much (around 2000 hours).
Framme ended up being my Amber. There's just something funny about a child punching armored enemies to death. Also don't get in her way because, *"SHE'S ON A MISSION!"*
Celine’s Luck is actually really when used with Staves and Divine Pulse. She single handedly held off the bosses in 17 with Freeze so I could do them 1 by 1.
Lindon also makes amazing use of the Olwen ring with his personal skill. Since at that point in the game, it will always be active with a basic thunder tome required for dire thunder He can be a critical hit powerhouse with that
Honestly, Celine is so slept on. She rocks as her personal advanced class. Nothing is better than a princess mage that's kinda tanky that can warp to an enemy to blast them away
I like how it shows the true base stats, makes this video a good resource for reclassing, like how vander has equal base strenght and magic wich means if you're insane enough to use vander long term you could send him down a magic path
Hmmmm. I'm looking at Anna's growths, and seeing that she has high dex and speed, she could pull off being a Sniper or Bow Knight while using the Radiant Bow. I might try that in my next playthrough, along with trying Clanne as a Thief (unlucky magic growths) or a sword Wolf Knight (lucky magic growths.)
I find it funny how I used Kagetsu on his introductory chapter and never again but Bunet became a mainstay on my team, the dude is a wall and became my defacto tank alongside Louis
I’m currently doing my second playthrough where all units are thieves and Framme is just way too overpowered as a thief. She does more damage than everyone else and is already dodge tanking before Chapter 10! Needless to say, Framme is one of my favorite units to use in the Fire Emblem series thus far and that’s saying a lot considering I don’t have a lot of favorites in Fire Emblem. Framme is one of those characters to me.
I had the same thing happen with Etie in my current run. Made her a thief as it was rolled as such for a wheel challenge and she was one-rounding (via doubling and an engraved/refined iron dagger) the Corrupted Wrymns in the 12th chapter. Thieves in general are a little cracked in this game, their high avoidance and poison stacking can be insane.
Fun thing with Panette crit build: Instead of inheriting Vantage, go for Wrath. Give her Leif and a Killer Bow. Thanks to Leif's Adaptable, she will always use your Killer Axe at 1 Rng and Killer Bow at 2 Rng. Just don't increase Bond level over 5 as that will prioritise Master Lance when fighting at 2 Rng.
I am here to tell you all of my lord and savior... Yunaka. It is. INCREDIBLY fun to have such an absurd dodge tank xD Who got blessed by RNG on her growths. She saved my Xenologue clears even without them thanks to Leif and Marth giving her massive avoid bonuses. Along with Lyn's speedtaker. I was able to have her take down one half of the map while everyone else was doing the other side, lol. I'm relying pretty heavily on her in Maddening as well. And if the enemies try to avoid attacking her. Well then they're still getting picked off, it just takes longer. LOL!
It feels like Firenne got the short end of the stick with its units, with only 2 or 3 decent units, while the other countries have plenty of good units, especially Brodia and Solm.
At the same time, Firine's join earlier, and many of them are essential to getting through the early chapters. If you use someone just for Firine before dropping them, they still deserve credit. Chapter 5 in particular is one of the harder parts of the game on Maddening.
@@BigKlingy that’s still no excuse if you’re someone who wants to use some of them to the very end, for example, Etie and Celine, I want to use them, but the others from later kingdoms hold them back
This is awesome what u put out, its a nice guide for everyone, i am looking foreard to the chloé and goldmary one, its nice to see what units skills and bases are and how they will impact the game
I will help you with Timerra. Here is the most brainless way to get her 1 rounding (I have more high skill builds, but we will focus on this) Lance power 5, SPD+5, Sigurd. I run T4 wells all game so I can afford to SP dump in this way to at least 3-5 units a playthrough but you could at the very least suggest this high SP cost build because she will 1 round at base no sandstorm, gets momentum damage, dex/def boost from sig and BLD increase. If you want something cheaper: SPD+5/Resolve+. Fensilar +3-5/Javelin +3-5 Roy OR Eirika. This build can switch between these emblems, the emblems damage fix her, she can function as a main tank on either due to her high DEF and SPD/average res letting her EP a large number of enemies (tested/proven on my channel, also stress tested against 7+ CH23 maddening enemies hitting her per turn, with both emblems). On the Eirika Front it lets her 1 round playerphase and typically on EP. Roy gives +6 STR/+8 when engaged, Roy also gives more SPD/dex/def/res and you can use Binding Blade to proc sandstorm 1-2 range and it is weightless on her as it has 8 WT. I am fine with people not finding her good but you could at least have the game knowledge to share when going over units THIS LATE after release. You also could have just parroted builds from my or other channels so you at least have a build to discuss instead of writing off the unit and claiming she's unfixable when I had her 1 rounding Lumera/Sombron pre well maddning with just Sigurd SPD+5 and a brave lance, using probability math to produce sandstorms (She took off 2 healthbars) If we can get her working before the well, we can certainly get her working afterwards.
I'll try Roy sometime. Most of the times I've used Timerra I've had someone else in the army who needed Roy more. I used Eirika on her on my first run though.
@@BigKlingy No worries, it is like with most units. They will want good forges, engraves if relevant to build, good passives and a good emblem. I recently just did a thief only maddening run (no dlc) and I was able to get 13 STR hort 1 rounding on Eirika so we have the technology :)
Haven’t made it to the Merrin section yet but her in mage knight is very laughable, idk why in engage so many units can do very well in mixed classes due to their growths not being too lopsided like past games.
A lot of the girls were given decent Magic growths, though in some cases I wish those "points" had been redistributed into other stats, mainly TIMERRA. (As she really doesn't want to reclass)
Jagen. He's a character from FE1 who starts with really high stats at the start of the game but has really low growths so his level ups tend to be worse. It's a unit that typically works as a safety net for the early game, softening enemies to allow your weaker units to finish them off.
Been awhile for the Character Guides for them being Recruitable the last time I watch of theirs so.. That's very nice. Including the DLC Fell Xenologue units..
When me and my buddy got access to the dlc, we both pretty much decided simultaniously that Anna would become our cannoneer. After that, she proceeded to pay the tuitions required for the other cannonners in my army (in his, she payed for other reclasses and mainly equipment upgrades). Once the luck gets high enough the gold starts flowin good lol
1:32:47 I reclassed her to a sword general and it somewhat fixed her accuracy. Also, all of the winds managed to keep up with my post game team. Even taking 0 damage for post game enemies.
@@BigKlingy fr. At least in the actual game we can patch up her shit accuracy with engravings/sigurd inheritance. In the xenologue itself she's just painful to use.
@@Sethg98 I struggle finding uses for Madeline in the Fell Xenologue. Thankfully she's only around for two chapters, but one of them is the really long final one...
I've held firm ever since the well update that Framme is nearly as good as Chloe with Eirika//Martial Master, freeing Chloe up to do some better stuff; Framme just needs a little bit of extra investment, but the well made that way easier. Also, Jean is hilariously swol as a Berserker.
I think Chloe's personal skill still edges her out as the best damage dealing Martial Master, especially when adjacent to Alear. +6 damage + Eirika flat damage x4 go brrrr
I really need to try a damaging Martial Master sometime. The animations are amazing but it's hard to find someone who can really make it work. I tried Warrior Jean on Maddening once. Unfortunately he wasn't that good as got him his first 10 levels as a Martial Monk.
@@BigKlingyIf you’re using dlc then Veronica is hilarious on any martial master thanks to retribution. You can make any unit into a murder machine. I did it with Goldmary who has low strength and magic and she was still one-rounding lategame maddening bosses at low hp
I’m only playing on hard classic and am nearly finished. My Diamant is an absolute monster. Practically nothing but Mages can damage him and he consistently doubles with ridiculous damage output. I guess I got lucky with RNG. Unfortunately I can’t say the same for Alcryst, he’s suffered a lot of bad level ups and his speed is really bad. Only his dexterity isn’t awful. It’s a shame.
My first playthrough of Engage I was committed to taking Clanne to the endgame because I’m MHA trash. I was also a petty brat and resolved to not pair any unit with their default emblem,(I think I thought it was funny?) so I yoinked Celica from Celine and gave her to Clanne.
this is a great video, but you made one mistake by suggesting that Anna should utilise her bow proficiency and decently in-line growth rates to become a warrior, because now at least 80% of the fire emblem community will show up at your house to break your kneecaps for even daring suggest she become anything but a magic user! it happened to me once, not a fun experience. but other than that this is a nice video, good work!
Honestly, I'm more afraid of the community coming after me for saying anything good about Anna at all. Most of where I look, people just go "bad bases, garbage." As I said here, I feel her chain attack utility is decent even if you don't train her (the Maddening anecdote is a true story, it wasn't even that hard to babysit her through Chapter 11). But in general, I really like Radiant Bow Warrior Anna, even if technically a lot of people can hit Endgame flier OHKO thresholds with it. Personally she and Fogado are the easiest to setup with it early and it helps during Chapter 12-17.
@BigKlingy in my first runthrough, i went in with no knowledge of character/class growths, and Anna and Jean ended up both being my strongest units! Jean was often doing 100+ damage to armoured units just using arts, and Anna was carrying as a warrior (I didn't even give her a radiant bow, just a longbow and silver axe and she was bybfar my most useful backup unit). I feel a lot of people either just look at the growth rates or only take into account their personal experiences (typically a first playthrough for 'bad' units) and refuse to look further.
For all those who've seen these before, I've fixed a few mistakes (fittingly, I'd forgotten Bunet had +1 to his Luck cap) and added some new info to Celine (comments pointed out the Marth and Sigurd thing and I felt it needed mentioning), and tiny extra to Kagetsu's because lol.
Editing this together made me realize how much I miss this cast. I've realized that this is probably my favourite cast in the series gameplay-wise. Although there's some balance issues, everyone is usable as both a short-term and long-term unit and besides the trainees everyone joins at a good level for their chapter so can easily slot into a team.
Also, I just found out Engage has surpassed Three Houses (which itself had surpassed Xenoblade 2 AND 3) as my most-played Switch game!
What are you top 3 most played switch games?
Mine are:
1. Pokemon Legends Arceus 250 hours
2. Mario Kart 8 190 hours
3. Fire emblem engage 170 hours
Mine looks to be:
1. Skyrim (765 hours)
2. Pokemon Violet (605 hours)
3. Monster Hunter Rise (530 hours)
Honorary mention to the RUclips app at 2730 hours thanks to watching a lot of videos on my Switch while recovering from surgery back in 2019.
Noice
This game has no balancing issues.
Kagetsu: PRECISION AND POWER
Pannette: 100 crit
"You looking down on me?!"
@@nachohangover5104 Hey at least Panette is balanced by needing a high investment build to get a big payoff.
Kagetsu is balanced by... being only a good unit instead of a great one for like 2 chapters?
Pandreo: BEG FOR FORGIVENESS
Love his crits@@thunderknight4149
What makes their imbalancing even more stupid is that Kagetsu and Bunet join in back to back chapters.
At least Kagetsu has to wait a few chapters for a good reclass, if you don't have the DLC. (Though then you lose the awesome Swordmaster crit animation)
@@BigKlingythat animation is the best thing abt the swordmaster class. Look how they massacred my boy 🥲
@@BigKlingy He's good enough to make Swordmaster work anyway (as in, he's still good, but not borderline gamebreaking), and keeping the drip outweighs any potential drawbacks this decision might have
If you're winning without looking stylish, are you really winning at all?
Swear to god Engage was made without reclassing in mind (exception Jean who was a late addition.) Everything makes so much more sense if that's the case, like Bunet having low personal bases to compensate for high class bases and Pandreo having high personal bases to compensate for low class bases, or Kagetsu being balanced by being stuck in a bad class.
@@FUTBALLZAK Or Rosado being the only Wyvern you get.
Using the GBA Emblem music for Anna is so incredibly based of you
Looking for music to use for this, I forgot how many good songs Annas shops have had. Especially Shadow Dragon having a different theme for the Secret Shop.
A fun fact i learned about the dlc dragon siblings: they can use Veyle's obscurite tome, which is more significant for Nel as it is for Rafal, since she has the better mag stat and can actually be a really decent lance mage knight that way
I had no idea about that, it's pretty cool
Ah, so it being "Fell Dragons only" isn't just for show. Given Sombron can use it, that makes sense.
Love that when you talk about Boucheron, the first chain attacking character, you change the BGM to the chain attack theme from Xenoblade 3
I'm so glad someone else noticed that, hahahaha
I've been waiting for something like this because I'm seriously considering buying Engage for Christmas so this will be very handy. Can't wait for the Emblem Bio Compilation (assuming you make that).
That's kind of what I was hoping. That this could be a resource to people. I'm not intending this to be about full-on efficiency, just "here's what each character is good/bad at, if you want to use them."
I'll probably do the Emblems at some point.
On Panette: Her Proficiency in Knives makes it so that she gets S knives as a wolf knight, which is honestly nice since you can get both S rank knives from the story. Wolf Knight patches up her speed issue pretty well. When I did Maddening I had Wolf Knight Panette (with Wrath!) paired with Lucina, giving her the extra speed and dex she wants, along with a nice bonus of being able to dual assist poison.
Panette, Ike, Wolf Knight, Steel Dagger Corrin Engrave, Speed +3, Gentility+.
Try it, trust.
Why would Panette need speed, she has reliable one-shot builds
@@Edgeperor Because this is a different build built around having 90% Crit instead of 100% on a 1-2 range weapon but having 2 opps to double, plus it's cheap and there isn't much else to spend 500 SP on, plus extra speed means doubled less means tankier Ike user.
Panette wolf knight looks really good, but I can’t resist the urge to make her a vantage berserker with 100 crit everytime 😅
@@LoudWaffleBetter to do that with Warrior than Berserker though
The only thing Berserker has over Warrior is getting to keep Panette's drip intact... which might just be worth it...
Surprised you didn't mention the busted Framme/Lucina dual guard build. She will have so much evade due to her supports enemies won't attack her while she makes the people next to her completely immune to damage
I alluded to that, with saying how she supports a lot of really good characters. Basically I was trying not to spoil exactly when Emblems were obtained until after you get them, so I didn't want to DIRECTLY mention the Framme/Lucina build but did allude to it a few times. (Mentions of "the Chapter 11 Emblem")
I love the choice of xenoblade 3 chain attack for boucheron its too perfect
Always nice to have all the bios in one spot.
And the thumbnail is too true.
This kind of content makes me regain hope in humanity. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart.
thank you so much for this ive been watching your vids since awakening and i will say my fav playthrough of yours is lost dimension!
Wow, been a while since someone mentioned that one. I've thought about that game a few times. It had a unique premise and a lot of good ideas, and a decent PC port. But it ended up mostly forgotten, sadly.
i wouldnt say forgotten ;m; more so like a hidden gem or diamond in the rough!@@BigKlingy
> Take Over during Yunaka's section
***We love to see it.***
Hot take: Take Over > Last Surprise.
@@BigKlingy Not even a hot take, you're right.
I started a new playthrough recently, and I chose to use some characters I never used long term or at all in my previous runs. Like Chloe, Etie, Citrinne, and Bunet (…yes him. Also, lol thumbnail!).
Citrinne’s been an excellent Sage especially with Byleth equipped.
Etie’s tough to use because of her starting rut, but making her Warrior temporarily really fixed her.
Chloe’s done…Good Enough? I’ve had to rewind a lot for her because she kept dying, but she’s improved in the later half with the help of a Lyn/Sigurd skill combo. Hopefully that’ll stick.
And finally Bunet, I gave him a Speedwing after he joined, and he’s surprisingly gained speed on most of his levels, although his strength is lacking as a draw back. Otherwise, he’s been doing his job well enough as a mobile tank. Even gained some appreciation for him as a character in some of his supports, he’s actually quite wholesome when he’s not wanting to lick everything.
Watching your playthrough motivated me to play this game more, and you taught me a lot of neat tricks that have worked wonders for this run. Thank you for this BigKlingy. 👍
A lot of comments have pointed out that Bunet does have SOME good supports, such as with Jean. I'll need to look more into them.
just want to say that I appreciate your use of the chain attack music from Xenoblade 3
Anyone who's played XB3 will have already heard it a billion times, but... Chain Attacks are good in Engage and Boucheron is basically "early Chain Attacks, the character."
One quick note about Diamant: His personal skill only requires that he initiates combat and the foe is able to counter attack. It does NOT require the foe be at full health (I believe you were thinking of Xander's Personal skill when you said that, as the two characters are quite similar and their personal skills are both related to honor).
This makes Diamant a very good Player Phase unit, as he still benefits from Fair Fight if he Breaks his opponent, making him a good initiator against Lance and Axe foes. If he doesn't kill them, he can then contribute with Dual Strikes when another unit moves in to mop up.
Diamant should usually be the first unit you use on your turn. You can also reclass him into Hero to further lean into this strategy with Brave Assist (while potentially giving him Lances, rather than Axes if you so desire, as he joins while you still have the Sigurd ring). Unless you plan on giving him something like the Ike/Hector or even the Roy ring and patching up his Dex with a Skill inherit from an Emblem Ring, it's probably better to straight up ignore Successeur, much like how Alfred tends to perform better as a Paladin, rather than as an Avenir.
I was thinking about Xander, yeah. And I agree that Successeur isn't a great class, Sol doesn't do much for him.
If you’re reclassing Diamant, he should be going into wyvern. Brave Assist isn’t actually that good of a skill, and Hero just reduces all of his other stats comparing to Succ
@@Edgeperor The reason I suggested Hero was for Brave Assist, which he gets with Successeur. So if you wanted to use Diamant as intended, Hero is a better class for him.
Obviously, Wyvern is literally the best class for all physical units who aren't classing into Warrior. And that's a REAL problem, gameplay-wise.
@@LAZERAK47V2 he doesn’t get brave assist in Successeur though? Idk what you’re trying to say
@@Edgeperor I'm saying that if you want to keep Diamant as a backup unit, he performs that role better as a Hero than as a Successeur.
Successeur gives him Sol, which is extremely unreliable due to the low Dex cap of his native class. Instead, he should be classed as a Hero so he can Brave Assist.
If you want to ditch his Backup status, class him as a Wyvern.
And yeah, I see where the confusion occurred, I think my brain skipped a sentence while I was writing it.
Behold as we go over the cast again, see who is trying to powercreep who and why Kagetsu is absolutely busted
10/10 Thumbnail. I approve of Bunet getting his own bottom tier. Xp
But again though, surreal to think we're at the bio compilations for Engage already. Felt like yesterday when we started this LP. At the very least, it's fun getting to hear these again. Will be keeping all of this in mind come the start of next year when I'll probably be jumping into my Maddening Mode Run.
Also those post-edit notes during Clanne's bio. LMAO #Clanne4Endgame
In other news, a lot since the last video, but I'll probably break it up all down with the next LP.
The thumb does hurt me a bit but after my Birthright playthrough, I am very eager to use Bunet in my next Engage playthrough.
I did learn a good amount around this time mainly because of my brother's Maddening playthrough where I had a better idea of the personal base stats and also the power of Etie due to her strength advantage over Alcryst and Citrinne being fast enough to double as a Mage Knight thanks to Speed + and the Elfire not weighing her down. The information will be nice for theory crafting my builds for my next playthrough since I want to get very creative.
I did always think that Clanne was pretty rad in my first playthrough since he could convincedly attack both physically and magically there. It was good to see him go even further in this playthrough but is he better than Subaki?
I did a lot but it is easy to recap. I got to 99.4% in R Racing Evolution after going through the story mode on Hard which wasn't too bad. Too bad I can't get to go 100% that easily unless I really want to playthrough the NTSC version instead.
Birthright is done and fully uploaded as well and it was a very enjoyable experience that was more fun than I was expecting to play and record. I also figured out what to do for my break where I show off some pretty cool games on my channel as one off videos but I finished recording all of the games I wanted to show so it will be back to recording Fates, this time with Conquest.
I have missed talking to you and I will be eagerly anticipating hearing about what you got up to as well.
It's only like that because when I made my tier list simply for how much I liked everyone as CHARACTERS... Bunet got his own tier at the bottom because... bunet. He's the ONE character who made me think "who thought this was a good idea?"
@@BerserkerRohan In that case, sorry for rubbing salt in the wound with that remark. Xp
Yeah between Klingy's LP and Watching your brother's run, you have loads of knowledge and many more obvious ideas to have fun with in your next run of Engage.
Seems like your Clanne was trying to foretell of the power of #Clanne4Endgame come Klingy's LP. lol
Again, annoying you're not allowed to get 100% completion because of that glitch, but I hope the 99.4% is at least comforting enough.
Yeah saw that and congrats on finishing up that LP. And I hope your break will let you come up with some fun ideas for the next LP. Also you weren't kidding about Subaki actually being good in your run where he more or less got third place in your unit rankings. Xp
It'll be fun to catch up to you too, though I'll try to lessen the gap and be a bit more active with messages so we don't go through a drought of talks.
@@BigKlingy I do remember that tier list you made about how you like each character, but I still like to think the Bunet tier also applies to his gameplay performance as well. lol
But yeah, Bunet is certainly the character who made me go "Why are you like this" the most too.
@@jaredfayette2567 Bunet does stick out really badly in this cast but that kind of makes him more charming to me.
It will be a fun playthrough. The question will be when shall I do that playthrough since I have a lot of options of what game I can play next.
I did always think he was a fun Mage Knight. Maybe it is time to use him again with my greater knowledge of the game.
It will be fine and does give me a reason to check out the NTSC version if I want 100% but that will happen at a later point.
Things are all planned out for the playthrough and I hope it will prove a very fun one.
Subaki and Hayato proved to be the MVPs in the run which is funny to think about.
Again, I will be looking forward to hearing more from you.
Nice to see this. Also poor Ian Sinclair.
Of all the characters he could play... still, every VA has roles like this sometimes.
It's still not as bad as Faye Mata (Petra's VA) playing an infamous character from Rising of the Shield Hero, who she hates and the fanbase despises too. But SOMEONE has to voice these characters.
@@BigKlingy I’m not sure if Sarah Emi (Constance’s JP VA) suffered for being Malty’s VA
@@BigKlingyAt least she also voice acted the single most popular fate characters and the internet's beloved, Astolfo!
@@meisterschwert5565faye mata also played aqua from konosuba, a fan favorite
This is such a good guide, easy to follow, better than the other ones I've seen (mostly tier lists).
I've never been a fan of tier lists, since I don't think they make sense for single-player games. Most units in Fire Emblem do very different things for you and it's hard to compare their roles, like some tier lists rate Thieves extremely high just for the items/chests they steal despite their bad combat. I prefer to show the characters stats, growths and skills and give an overview of their individual strengths and weaknesses. Also I don't like to judge people for using "low-tier" units, it's single-player, you can use whoever you want.
@@BigKlingyAnyway, great guide, thanks for making this.
While there are obviously units that stand above others, what i really like about this FE, is that all units are viable and can become good for maddening.
Totally agree. I've used an untrained Anna on Maddening for Chain Attack support in Chapter 10. It's really amazing how balanced Maddening is.
I was surprised to hear the comments about Timerra. In all of my playthroughs, she always very quickly becomes one of my best units - particularly as a tank. A few level ups in her base class, and she becomes practically unkillable having really good Defense, Resistance, and Avoid. Paired with an Emblem that has Defense capabilities, such as Ike, Corrin, or Hector, she becomes an incredible unit for baiting enemies to their death. I find that she’s especially deadly when outfitted with a Killer Lance and a Spear to switch between depending on the situation. In doing this, it allows her to bait and just absolutely _obliterate_ hordes of enemies, or at least weaken them significantly so that other allies can quickly follow up.
A lot of people really like Timerra. And I do too, a lot. I've used her in most of my runs. She takes work, and I personally wish her concept was handled a little better. She DOES hold her own in her join chapter on Maddening, which is impressive.
It's been a while, but I think I put tiki on seadall since dance is one of the few (if not only?) Class skills you can use while transformed so it lets him dance and put himself in danger to do so with Tiki’s tanky transform
This is what I've been doing too, it lets Seadall be much more aggressive with his Dancing. He can also still use Chain Guard if he has to.
Having a tanky Dancer really helps enable the rest of the team. Sometimes things go South and you need him in a risky spot, Engaging with Tiki almost guarantees he won't be targeted.
Timerra works when you get her Class ability after level 5 that basically makes her a Critical Hit machine. Her dexterity becomes her chances landing a critical blow. She is a Frontliner that has saved my army a couple of times but I admit it took me a while to understand how she works
Love this guide! Just getting into engage and this was hugely helpful. Thanks!!!
Glad it helped!
@@BigKlingy I felt overwhelmed with all the units and how best to use them, but this provides such clarity. Im on chapter 10 and reclassing some of my units as you suggested, Im taking etie to axe fighter > warrior, and taking Louis to Lance fighter > halberdier. Really smart suggestions weaning off armor units for a more player-phase focused team, and not doing Anna as a sage because of her horrendous base mag. Overall just a really thoughtful guide that helped tremendously.
I've read once that if you're willing to forge a Hurricane Axe that you get in chapter 14, and give it Ike's engraving, Jade as a General with only 6 base magic and OHKO Griffon and Wyvern Knights. I actually want to try it out.
That sounds fun.
I like reclassing mauvier to wyvern knight as the class has a weirdly high magic cap combined with a good defense cap two of his best traits and while it isn't perfect due to break and 2 range sometimes he can enemy phase with a hurricane axe using his still really high base magic to instant kill on retaliation, that base 20 might can get funny when used right
@@pandabanaan9208 That does sound funny. I also found out that you can even give him Vantage+ since it’s apparently a way to bypass the penalty of smash weapons making you go second.
@@saggsmanVantage works on smash weapons only if the enemy initiates.
If you initiate, vantage will not trigger. (Same for Alacrity)
Despite what anyone says, I’m a officially a Fire Emblem fan thanks to Engage. This play has been fun. For better or worse, and I want to give my opinions on each unit.
0:00 Alear is the most standard lord, but Alear plays to the strengths of this game really well. Starting with the Marth Emblem and having low SP costs meaning that by getting to Rank 10 with Marth, which is easy to do, Alear can be a great dodge tank. Alear's exclusive class means he gets the most Emblem bonuses out of any character in the game until Veyle.
Really their main weakness is their magic stat, meaning that Celica and Micaiah aren't the best choices to boost Alear's damage. If there is any consolation to doing this, more magic for the Levin Sword (the only 1-2 range option they have unitl they get Wille Glanz), and with Micaiah, they give Alear extra range in Staves.
Alear is a lot more versatile than one might think because Alear takes full advantage of what the game wants you to do.
4:45 Vander is the Jaegan that will only last you for so long, but his personal skill is actual decent for Alear if they and Vander have the Killer Weapons. But really, the only way Vander can be useful is with Tiki and Edelgard Linage and Starsphere skills. If Vander wasn't a Jaegan, he would have been a great unit... I think.
7:34 You got extremely lucky with Clanne, #Clanne4Endgame
9:44 Framme is surprising useful thanks to being one of the only Qi Adepts in the game. It's just a matter of her getting good level ups is the problem. If Framme is just as lucky as Clanne was here, she can be the best Bond Shield user and Micaiah user. but again, that's if your lucky. I wasn't sadly and I gave her up.
11:58 Alfred. Poor Alfred, out of all of the Royals in the game, he got stuck with the worst class. The final stat cap for Avenir is not bad IMO, but the thing that could have made him better, was if Golden Lotus halved damage for ALL attacks. With Gentility, he would have made for a better tank. But no…
That being said, there is a reason why I kept him in my final team over Amber. As an early unit who will be able to use Marth and Sigurd after Chapter 3 that means he has more chances to get their skills while Amber joins around the time where will she won’t have enough time to invest. (Better than Jade at least, but still). Alfred is usable. That’s all I will say and I’m glad I didn’t give up on him. Alas, he could have been better.
14:47 Poor Etie, outclassed by Alcryst is every way. I’m sorry Etie fans, but in all of my Playthroughs, I just couldn’t find use for Etie. By the time I got Alcryst, I saw no point in using her.
16:52 Early chain attack user. I guess…
19:49 A hybrid physical and magical attacking unit with Ignis, and staff utility. Céline has a lot to work with once she promotes, she starts with Celica and has the exact boosts she needs to make use of her starting ring right away.
As a Mystical unit she does more damage with Warp Ragnarok (boosted with Ignis). Her real weakness are the lack of build which holds her speed cap (which is not bad) and her stats aren’t nearly as high as others. But her luck makes her a great Byleth user.
22:57 Despite General not being a good class and one too many Lance Users (one of my biggest grips with Engage Gameplay wise), but I think Louis and Chloé does a better job with Lances. Louis with max build means that he can use both of the S Rank Lances better than Timerra since he doesn’t need speed and has more attack power. Louis and Sigurd is master piece of a pair because giving an Armor unit more Mobility is glorious.
25:29 Chloé is my favorite unit from Firene gameplay wise. She has good growths of Strength and Magic which lets her use all of the Emblems well to some degree, and her cap speed as Griffon Knight. It’s a chef’s kiss. Despite being another Lance user, it works because with Sigurd and Marth, they better mobility, attack power, and movement or speed. With a cap of 52, she always double and avoid getting doubled herself. And she has Staff usage. So feel free to use Micaiah on her. So I made my peace. Chloé is the best Firene character as a unit, I wished I like her character and support with Alear more.
28:10 One of the only main chain guards who will get thanks to his starting class. But as a trainee unit with healing, level up is a grind but will gain the boost in stats need to be great at anything.
But with the classes he is best known for (Martial Master and Martial Priest), do you make Jean into an another chain guard user, or a magic attacker with an S rank in Staffs? Pick your poison.
Other than that, Jean is whatever you want him to be if you’re diligent with him.
31:05 My girl, Yunaka! The Corrin Yunaka build is busted (a little bit too much), but I wonder if I should try a Wrath Vantage combo on her…? Hmmm. As I was saying, Yunaka is great for debilitating or killing.
34:01 Is the investment to get more money worth it? You tell me…
37:28 Alcryst may not be Diamant, but that Dex and Strength is all he needs to be better than Etie in every way. His personal promotional class skill Luna will Pierce through defense like a hot knife through butter.
Luna Astra Storm anyone. But part is, Luna works well with most other attacks as well with Crits to boost the damage. But as an Archer, without a mini bow, he’s going to be unable to Counterattack.
Overall, Alcryst is the best archer and one of the best units in Engage IMO.
39:48 Poor girl. Horribly outclassed by Kagetsu. But if you want to use her, I won’t stop you.
42:37 Citrinne is only here if Clanne and Céline aren’t making the cut. I will admit that she has potential for being a good Olwen user.
46:50 Diamant comes first here because he is the crown prince of Brodia and the first Roy user. Sadly, his poor Dex. I’m sorry but, Alcryst is better for damage control.
Despite that, he is a backup unit, so with Dual Assist, he can be a good Chain Attack assets. My personal favorite use for him is with Wrath and Vantage with Roy equipped. Diamant has better staying power than Alcryst. So that’s a huge point in his favor.
44:38 Amber turned out better than I thought. Maybe I treated him too harshly. But I doubt he will be on my Maddening team…
49:47 Poor Jade. Honestly, you really need to be conservative of Bond Fragments and Skill books if you REALLY want to use her, as to me, being an Axe Armored Unit is her saving grace. If it wasn’t for the Fell Xenologue where use can potentially get a better one sooner… oof
51:38 Ivy… Ivy Ivy Ivy. I really love Ivy, one of my favorites in the game but where as Bigklingy loves Ivy as a unit, I’m personally mixed. Thankfully, she starts with the Lyn Emblem, which fixes her main weaknesses (Speed and Dexterity). But good lord, it’s either focus on giving more power or making sure she herself doesn’t get doubled and killed or needing to hit. Because of her low Dex, I find her unbearable to use most of the time.
Speaking of her Dex, Grasping Void is extremely unreliable IMO. It only works with Tomes (so only Warp Ragnarok and Cataclysm will work) and it depends on the magic of her target when she may have the damage she needs to destroy Armor units.
That being said, her saving graces prevents her from being far from bad. Unlike Veyle, she has higher build and can fly, she has Staff usage, and is obtained earlier than Veyle.
Ivy made me realize how much I underestimated the Surge tomes in their usage.
56:08 Kagetsu. Need I say more? I like using him as Swordmaster, a bad class maybe, but I love that Critcal Hit animation.
54:35 I may *consider* using Zelkov in my Maddening Run *if* he does well…
58:21 Fogado is an interesting unit, he lacks the raw power of Alcryst and his Luna attacks and doesn’t have an S Rank in Bows.
But he makes up for it by being a Calvary Unit that can use Swords. And his speed cap is among one of the highest in the game.
Also, Back at you is a personal class skill that I don’t think is that good but still has some uses. He might work with a Wrath and Vantage combo when using Veronica as Reprisal will stack with Back at you for more damage.
1:00:29 Kagetsu as a healer. Another character I might consider for Maddening.
1:02:08 By the way, you can’t bring Bento 🍱 to the Fell Xenologue. Sorry Bunet.
1:03:45 Timerra. Ok @Bigklingy. I guess we are rivals now, you think Ivy is amazing while I am mixed, where I think Timerra is a great unit (albeit struggles a lot) while you think she is bad.
That being said, Timerra is not the best Great Aether user. Sandstorm is still satisfying to see activate and kill a unit Timerra would have struggled with otherwise. And by the way, I have reached the 400 hit damage with Timerra and Hector vs Wyvern Knights. It’s beautiful.
1:06:54 Merrin and the Wolf Knight, a great class for debilitating, great class for damage and with Sword and Knife usage, Merrin can be really enjoyable when invested in.
1:08:37 unpopular opinion: Panette is overrated. I argue moreso than Yunaka with Corrin. Don’t get me wrong, he is really good, but her Dex… and the trial maps taught me something important: A powerful attack means nothing if you can’t hit. So she needs Hit rate fixing to be at her best.
1:17:12 Her chain attacking Elegance is too strong for mere mortals to stand up to.
I'm honestly surprised you weren't before, given how often you commented here. I've seen you on TRG too.
@@BigKlingy I was alseep at the time and I need time to give my opinions on each unit with the frame of RUclips’s text limit. I will be more diligent for the Emblem Video. I think talking about the Emblems is much easier than talking about the units.
Etie is just better than Alycryst btw. I agree neither are super great but Etie has a massive strength lead (She comes at level 4 with 1 less than he has at level 10, if you use her at all it will be higher than his). The dex difference often doesn't matter since there are tons of engraves that boost hit and you should be using engraved weapons. For example, when both are 15/10 Etie will have 10 more strength than Alcryst, while Alcryst's only notable advantage is 3 extra speed. The speed lead is negligible since both want Lyn anyway and both don't double reliably without Lyn and do double reliably with Lyn. I'd rather reliably one-round with the massive strenght lead than have to rely on Luna rng. If you want a fast bow unit (on average a 5.5 speed lead when compared at 17/13, only growing more with time) Fogado also has far more power than Alrcryst with the Radiant bows massive base might while also having great synergy with Erika (lunar brace for his massive speed easily quadding with the brave bow and the + 5 raw damage from bravery and extra mag for the radiant bow). Use whoever of course, Alcryst keeps getting overrated though when he doesn't preform great. Thought he was better as well because he feels better on join but that's mainly just his better weapons when he joins (which both can use anyway) and many just ignoring Etie when she joins. When their stats are compared his aren't favorable.
@@twigz3214 this is my personal experience. Etie was never able to keep up for me…
I admit I use Alcryst mainly for his character, and for keeping Covert in his personal class (while I prefer Etie in Warrior) I'm definitely in the "he and Etie are about the same" boat and don't rate him insanely high.
my bunet paired with ike could single handled almost every map, he was my strongest unit (thanks also to some perfect level up), so i was very surprised when you started talking about me
On my first playthrough I was messing around with Emblems and gave Celica to Louis it was quite fun to play around with and with a few good level ups and he even got some Magic level ups causing him to hit harder it was quite fun
I'll always find it funny that diamant gets sol with a dex cap of 23. (not that 23% chance is an awful chance, but is much lower than most modern games since awakening).
Main thing though is that fair fight is always active when he initiates which does a fair bit to patch up his shaky hit rates.
and despite that i found successor to be on the better end of personal class promos given how well rounded it is physically.
Still not as painful as Meg in Radiant Dawn trying to be the "speedy armour" but having the worst tier 3 speed cap of all of them, while Gatrie has a better cap AND speed growth AND his other stats don't suck.
I need to meet the baffling person that decided the buff and strong Archer needed 4 base Bld.
I have a weird theory that Lapis and Etie's personalities got swapped somewhere during development, because there's a couple of references to Lapis being strong and her first line is really out-of-character for her.
This video made me realize I got really lucky with my Clanne’s level ups… 😂
My Timerra was a monster on my first Maddening run, but I did have a plan for her build (no pun intended) before starting my run. I think she's one of the few units in the game that makes good use of Leif to patch up her build problems and with sandstorm she has the potential to either delete an enemy or do no damage with quadruple hit lol.
I also inherited resolve+ and gentility+ on her (obviously heavy investment here) and she ended up being one of my endgame units.
I've used Leif on her a bit. Once I tried Marth, thinking he'd mean more chances for Sandstorm, but he wasn't that great on her.
Also I noticed the Sonic avatar and... for some reason Sonic has lived rent-free in my head for the past week and I see references EVERYWHERE.
@@BigKlingy 😂 that's pretty funny and hopefully it's more of something you can chuckle at rather than something that's been super annoying
A few days ago, literally right as I was thinking "Sonic is living rent-free in my head right now, what's happening" a kid with a Sonic shirt walked past. I didn't find it annoying, just hilarious.
If Sandstorm had a higher proc rate or it was the personal skill and allowed reclassing, I could see a meme build working, but right now after 3 attempts she ends up mid even after favoritism on hard, can't imagine it working on Maddening.
Timerra was the best unit in my game
Mine ended up making good use of Tiki later on, Sandstorm + Tiki's buffs to defense does a lot.
So somethings I did my first run
I reclassed Chloe to Royal Knight. I found this kept most of the perks of Griffon Knight, while only losing flying access which would be a big loss but Sigurd gives enough movement anyways for it to work. It also allows Chloe to be a good mixed attacker, using her magic and the flamelance to be really effective.
I also reclassed Anna to Wolf Knight and gave her a levin sword. Really effective unit able to dodge tank most things, retaliate, have good luck, and just be a great money farmer.
Getting into DLC here, but Citrinne I kept as a Sage, but I gave her Soren. This combined with Roy's holdout brought back the days of Awakening Nosferatsu tanking and turned her into a big enemy phase clearer.
I also gave Camilla to Panette, enhancing her mobility and letting her in a big AOE with a big axe for big damage.
Also some minor reclass bits I found useful, Jade really suffers when using axes, so I reclassed her to the sword variant and have had no issues with her. Swords really fix her hit rate issues and make her able to nearly stand equal to Louis.
Yunaka did fall off for me on hard, but I did train her back up to be top tier in endgame. In particular, she did really well as a Halberdier when I put her there to patch up her stats.
Celine despite being a mixed attacker was my best magical unit until I trained Citrinne up near lategame. Even then she still hit hard and her versatility was always useful.
Framme also fell off but then I made her a high priest and she became godly.
Final unit I want to mention is Lapis, personally I kept her as swordmaster, and found that by investing heavily into crit on her she was able to keep up, especially with Chrom's skill making crits deal more damage.
Royal Knight and Griffon Knight have the exact same strength (being 7 base and 10% growth) so there isn’t really any offensive benefit to going royal knight
@@MommyRexacuse I meant it moreso as an alternative option. I also did it because I didn't like the aesthetic of Griffon Knight.
What were they smoking making units like Kagetsu dope but make units like Roaado weak despite being recruited later?
It's weird because Rosado's growths are very high but his base stats are oddly low for a late-game Wyvern. Especially base Strength, despite him being tied for highest personal strength growth with Panette and Amber (outside of DLC).
As I said, he's still a free flier and that alone is decent.
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what is the "stat cap" you mentioned several times? Im kinda new to the series and have never heard this term but seems important
Every class has a maximum value for each stat. This is as high as that stat can go and it will glow... I think blue in Engage, on the stat screen if it's at that point.
In newer games like Engage, every character has modifiers to their caps, those are the pluses and minuses you see at the bottom of the slides here. These modify the class caps. For example, Divine Dragon has a Strength cap of 41. Alear has +1 to the Strength cap, so for them it'll be 42.
In a lot of Fire Emblem games caps aren't that important because you don't need stats that high to beat the game. In Engage, caps are JUST enough that you can reasonably cap some stats on your main party by the final chapter, and it DOES help.
Also, I approve of your Avatar. Poppi is best robot.
@@BigKlingy thanks for the explanation! Poppi #1
@@derpious267 I actually freaked out more at Poppi's cameo in XB3's ending than I did at the infamous Rex photo.
@@BigKlingy SAME! I friggin popped off so hard I missed the photo lol
7:34 one thing that I suggest is reassessing Vender to warrior & sticking Veronica on him
I find back up units to be my favorite for her, this allows him to go for a more supporting role, with contract, healing, book of worlds if you ever want, Granted, I still don’t use him often, but I have played around with this set a bit and I do like it, just depends if you’re willing to give up a second seal for this tbf
If you’re giving Vander Veronica then he can do way more than just support
Okay, specifically with DLC, Anna becomes arguably the best tank in the game, fearing literally nothing besides the final boss, enemy engage attacks, the fell wyrms with 4 range attacks, and post-endgame tempest trial difficulty units. Oh, and enemy High Priests with their maddening skill. Kinda also enemies with Silence or Fracture staves, but she has such high staff avoid (101, to be exact) that many don't even try to use them on her (since for both of them, the staff's base hit requires them to have 32 dex to have a 1% chance to hit her, which, fun fact, most enemy staff users don't have, since the cap for them is 31).
As a High Priest, she caps out at a whopping 100 damage output exactly (96 as a Sage), not including crits, enemy res, or chain attacks. This is with a Revelations-engraved Elthunder+5, allowing her to counter longbows too - and countering is what she does, with Vantage, Reprisal from Veronica's bracelet, and Hold Out. Speaking of crits, she has a decently high crit rate (46% if enemy dodge is 0, meaning it'll usually be above 33%), so she often does over 200~250 damage to enemies. She has even oneshot one of the final boss's HP bars on Maddening despite the gimmick still being partially in play (FB+, IIRC). She can even lean further into the crit side of things with Wrath if you devote a turn or three to chipping her HP with Vein of Flame tiles instead of bringing Hold Out. By doing that, her crit rate goes up by 30, all the way to 76% before support bonuses.
She's a consistent MVP alongside Panette (same build but Wolf Knight with Blazing-engraved Cinquedea and Roy's ring) and Spoiler Character 2 (Soren's bracelet, Fates-engraved Spoiler Tome, Divine Pulse+, and Mag/Dex+5 or Quick Riposte). All three of them can and have one-round the Maddening final boss's crystals from full when the gimmick is only half-solved.
Now, I will say, anyone can do the same thing as her if given the same class, tome, bracelet, and skills, but her growths in particular make her the best suited for capping the three stats the build cares about (HP, Mag, and Dex, with Luck and Res as mostly an added bonus). She and Spoiler Character 1 are also the only two units in the game who have a positive cap modifier for both Mag and Dex. Since you recruit the latter so late into the game it's hard to really build them into much of anything, she's definitely the better option. Lindon could be better too, since many enemies will have better than B ranked weapons, giving him +20 crit, but... same issue as Spoiler Character 1, recruited too late to do much of anything.
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One of these days I'll use him just... because.
On my first Maddening run right now, I hadn't played the game since launch meaning I had forgotten about Kagetsu and Pandreo so I put stat boosting Items onto Lapis and Celine, so when these 2 showed up the sunk cost fallacy made me skip them, I am just now learning that I'm apparently doing an accidental challenge run lol.
Lapis and Celine are still usable on Maddening, which is good. There's also no reason you can't ALSO use Kagetsu and Pandreo, if you need more physical or magic fighters.
Huh I've always thought that Alfred was pretty decent and Basically disregarded Louis for the most part. Im still in early game though (chapter 10) so my opinion could probably change later. It's just interesting to learn how my opinion of certain units differ from other units. Also I didn't know about Celine's synergy with marth and Sigurd in her class promotion. I want to try it now.
I didn't know about Celine's combo with Marth and Sigurd either until comments mentioned it. Something I love about Engage is that it feels like every time I look at a comments section, I find a new way of using Emblems that I never considered before.
"Goldmary can do decent as a GK or general, but she does the hero assist part so well, its a shame to change her out of it."
also she is the only one in the game that doesn't need to wear that horrible hero outfit.
The Timmerra slander continues. One of the best combat units in the game honestly.
Bear in mind, I used Timerra extensively in a full Let's Play. I like Timerra a lot, both in character and gameplay, I just acknowledge that she has major drawbacks you need to work around, in a game where a lot of the playable cast don't.
I honestly believe the payoff is worth the effort. Anna IMO is way more investment for return. Timmerra just needs to get to lvl 5 in Picket(in Maddening). After that it's a matter of equipping the right emblem ring, (Ike or Roy or Erika). And then a forged Javelin (which you should already have). Give her SPD+, or DEX+, SPD/DEX+, (if you have the DLC), or Lance Power, or Lunar Brace. These are things you'd naturally do for any unit.
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Icedcoffeegaming has a whole series of videos where he proves that Timmerra is actually one the best units on return of investment in the game. It comes down to how her attributes are geared towards taking advantage of all of Engage's new mechanical interactions. Her bases and growths meet just the right benchmarks. Check out his vids on character builds, there's an Ivy/Corrin build that can straight up solo most late game maps.
seriously. she’s amazing and you can easily cheese her ability proc.
I made lapis a swordmaster with Lyn's emblem and made her a crit sword unit. She just needs a push getting attack bonuses
Framme is one of the best characters in the game, it is completely hidden from new players who dont know how the game plays out. Anna is best as Griffon knight with Levin sword, put Sigurd engrave on the levin sword use avoid and or sword power with luck+ skill paired with luck boosting emblem and she quickly can become one of the best units in the game being a super dodge tank and 1 round KO on enemy phase while making your army money which is really needed on maddening especially when paired with the aforementioned Framme.
16:53 there’s an evil voice on your shoulder, telling you to make Mage knight Boucheron, listen to that voice!! XD
Personally, I just find it funny, because of his high dexterity & personal working on every brave hit, I thought, giving him a brave weapon is best, which is true, but you can turn the Wind tome into a brave weapon with the Soren Bond ring from Ike, and with good speed, 4 hits with wind on true damage :3c
You can pair this with Alear support, Celica’s resonance, or heck! Get Emblem Soren’s anima focus to make wind also give the hobbling effect (with a bonus to fire/lighting too)
You can also pair this up with the Chrobin emblem to always give yourself a back up & +10 magic, he probably won’t be your best magic unit, but come on! Be silly!! Mage is funny!! 😝
I'm assuming this analysis is based off of maddening mode? I was just wondering about it because some of the units who I thought excelled for me on hard is considered not good on maddening.
I went out of my way to break Diamant on my second playthrough (hard/classic) and the consensus is that he's terrible on maddening. I was never that daring to play maddening ever anyways, but knowing that most of the units I personally love are considered bad stops me from ever playing that mode on Engage.
To be fair, if your talking only about Diamants base states, that's totally fair, but I knew this the second time around and there's an argument to be made you can make any of the characters good with the right abilities and engravings.
I pretty much fixed Diamant's dex issue by giving him +5 Dex from Lucina with a crit engraving on his killer sword and Revange ax so he crits pretty much every other turn (I was told that Revange ax might be shitty, idk I like it though.)
I had put speedtaker on him for a time until I could give him some speed boost through boot items, once I took that off, I switched between duel assist+ and lifespear so that he can heal then tank/crit which is what I want him to do.
Anyways I just think it's an interesting discussion. I'm on the last chapter and he doubles and kills pretty much everything. I won't speak much on maddening, but I feel you can fix most characters flaws in this game if you prep beforehand. Then again, hard mode for Engage feels like normal mode (compared to something like Conquest anyway) but that's just my gamer brain opinion that plays fire emblem games for fun.
I feel like nearly everyone can be made viable on Maddening in this game. Looking back I was too harsh on Diamant here, especially since a lot of the fixes I mentioned for Ivy later can easily be applied to him.
For context, I used Diamant in my first playthrough and ended up somewhat disappointed by him at the end of the game, and this was on Hard. That gave me a slight bias against him, I'll admit. I don't think I worked hard enough to fix his accuracy problem. (Didn't help that his main Emblem was Ike, and I kept him in his personal class meaning Sol was ruining Wrath)
@@BigKlingy I found putting Lucina on him fixes most of his problems. Along with the +5 Dex you can inherit from her, Lucina also gives him an additional +3 (or 5? I think it was 3 though) in dex that stacks on top of what he already has if you max their bond. I'm not at my switch to check at the moment but I believe Lucina buffs his speed and strength as well.
I ran Ike on Diamant too the first time around, which worked well enough if you built him to tank, but my second run, I built him to crit which I found can be done after my last playthrough. Wrath does help, but sadly for me, I didn't do that for my last run because I forgot that ability exists...oops..
There are a couple of different abilities I have yet to try, if I ran Diamant a third time, I bet I could break him even more, but because SP is so limited in this game with no new game plus option, things I would have liked to do (like putting +3 dex/strength on him through 3H crew) was pretty much impossible. No one is getting 8000 SP in this game without excessive grinding and I hate grinding in this game because skirmishes take way too long to complete. .
wait, can you bring the DLC units into the main story? If so, you have the chance to do the funniest thing.
@@TheShiningEnergy You can, and at any time after it unlocks. Most people recommend getting them in the Solm arc.
@@BigKlingy ha! nice!
I am still baffled by why people hate alfred, he was always so good for me, he even got mvp in most maps for me in the early game
His growths are actually jacked, but his bases are so bad that it’s near impossible to actually capitalize on it. Not only does he start at an abysmal 5 base speed (which makes doubling impossible) but he also has such little build that he gets weighed down by his own iron lance. Also, Avenir is just a worse Great Knight.
@@CrazyPills-465 he is still one of my best characters, he even has one of the highest rating out of my main team
And then theres what I did with my lapis. High Speed = High Avoid. My Lapis could literally solo my game if Alear wasnt mandatory
I like how Engage uses 1 RN for hit rates below 50, but evade tank builds ARE still viable. You just need a lot of avoid for it to work.
@@BigKlingy oh yeah. most enemies had a 0 percent chance against her, she was def fine! 🤣
she just didnt have big kill potential. I did put lyn on her though, so lyns sync stuff helped a bit with that
Doesn't work on maddening
Neat
idk if I just got unlucky or something. but i feel growths in general are lowish in this game
I've heard a lot of people say that but I never felt that? A lot of characters are capable of growths in the 50-60 range and to me that feels about as high as they should go. (Aside from really min-maxed characters, like Louis' defense)
I think it helps that base stats feel a lot more balanced to the enemies in this game, as in most people have enough stats to do their main job from the moment they join, while still growing if you keep using them. In some other FEs, base stats feel too under-tuned to the point where getting unlucky with growths screws you over, or too over-tuned to the point where growths don't matter.
Might be an issue of the last fe I played fully being awakening @@BigKlingy
@@thanakoto2239 I once calculated the average growth rates for every game out of curiosity. I remember Awakening being among the highest. (Many games average around 40, I think Awakening's average growths were at least 50, maybe even 60.)
I'm always curious what mid ass character people get attached to in FE games so i gotta ask what meh character vibed with commenters in Engage?
For me on my last run, Clanne. He got insanely lucky and somehow got god-tier level ups for the entire earlygame that carried him the entire rest of the way. But broadly, I found out his "high Speed, mid Magic" setup made him very easy to "fix" with magic-boosting Emblems. (Similar to how I like Strength boosting Emblems on Lapis)
I still haven't finished my first playthough of this game. I just don't feel like it the game for me but I've been going back to 3 houses instead. And I'm just to addicted to Animal crossing New horizons too much (around 2000 hours).
I'm the exact opposite. It's very hard for me to go back to 3H now due to the monastery.
“surprisingly deadly alpaca”
clearly words uttered by someone who has never met one
I can believe that. A lot of those kinds of animals are brutal.
Amber Wolf Knight carried me my last playthrough, dodgetank doubler AND strong???
Framme ended up being my Amber. There's just something funny about a child punching armored enemies to death. Also don't get in her way because, *"SHE'S ON A MISSION!"*
Yeah in late game I still had her and she started hitting like a truck
persona music behind Yunaka? He knew what he was doing. Instant 10/10
Same VA as Yoshizawa and kinda looks like her. Fights similarly too. (Personality is VERY different though. Laura Post is seriously an amazing VA.)
I like how Rosado's portrait and personal skill photo are making the same pose
Celine’s Luck is actually really when used with Staves and Divine Pulse. She single handedly held off the bosses in 17 with Freeze so I could do them 1 by 1.
Lindon also makes amazing use of the Olwen ring with his personal skill. Since at that point in the game, it will always be active with a basic thunder tome required for dire thunder
He can be a critical hit powerhouse with that
I believe I actually used him like that once.
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Man, this line really did age well
The power of #Clanne4Endgame will forever live on thanks to Klingy's LP. Xp
Clanne the MVP of the playthrough
Clanne is better than Celine xD right me
Clanne, how did he get this strong? In hindsight, I did wish Céline and Hortensia got screentime in this Playthrough
Clanne, forever the man.
Honestly, Celine is so slept on. She rocks as her personal advanced class. Nothing is better than a princess mage that's kinda tanky that can warp to an enemy to blast them away
Really enjoyed watching your play-through! These Bios are one of the best parts! Very thorough and interesting!
Thanks! Really enjoyed making this too.
I like how it shows the true base stats, makes this video a good resource for reclassing, like how vander has equal base strenght and magic wich means if you're insane enough to use vander long term you could send him down a magic path
I wanted to make sure I showed these, as they aren't mentioned in a lot of places despite being pretty important.
SO. MANY. BIOS!
Can’t keep track… of any of them…
Just noticed we've got the Xenoblade 3 Chain Attack music when talking about Boucheron's chain attacks. :)
I had to.
Just... thank you so much for these bios
Both these and the emblem ones
I appreciate the chain attack music at chain attacking boucheron
Hmmmm. I'm looking at Anna's growths, and seeing that she has high dex and speed, she could pull off being a Sniper or Bow Knight while using the Radiant Bow. I might try that in my next playthrough, along with trying Clanne as a Thief (unlucky magic growths) or a sword Wolf Knight (lucky magic growths.)
Probably. Anna can do a decent number of builds.
I find it funny how I used Kagetsu on his introductory chapter and never again but Bunet became a mainstay on my team, the dude is a wall and became my defacto tank alongside Louis
Funnily enough if you reclassed Kagetsu to Great Knight, he’d be bulkier than Bunet (equal HP, +3 defense, +7 speed, + every other stat) 😅
@@LoudWafflethis guy is way too strong
I’m currently doing my second playthrough where all units are thieves and Framme is just way too overpowered as a thief. She does more damage than everyone else and is already dodge tanking before Chapter 10! Needless to say, Framme is one of my favorite units to use in the Fire Emblem series thus far and that’s saying a lot considering I don’t have a lot of favorites in Fire Emblem. Framme is one of those characters to me.
Given how class base stats work some people can get interesting when reclassed. Clanne is actually really good in physical classes.
I had the same thing happen with Etie in my current run. Made her a thief as it was rolled as such for a wheel challenge and she was one-rounding (via doubling and an engraved/refined iron dagger) the Corrupted Wrymns in the 12th chapter.
Thieves in general are a little cracked in this game, their high avoidance and poison stacking can be insane.
Fun thing with Panette crit build: Instead of inheriting Vantage, go for Wrath. Give her Leif and a Killer Bow. Thanks to Leif's Adaptable, she will always use your Killer Axe at 1 Rng and Killer Bow at 2 Rng. Just don't increase Bond level over 5 as that will prioritise Master Lance when fighting at 2 Rng.
Okay, screw it, im not going to lie. I ~subbed~ as soon as I heard the Zelkov reading.
Timerra is the best tank for maddening dude
Sandstorm > General, Gk, etc
Laugh in Alfred+Ike
44:39 the last thing you here before you die
I am here to tell you all of my lord and savior... Yunaka.
It is. INCREDIBLY fun to have such an absurd dodge tank xD Who got blessed by RNG on her growths. She saved my Xenologue clears even without them thanks to Leif and Marth giving her massive avoid bonuses. Along with Lyn's speedtaker. I was able to have her take down one half of the map while everyone else was doing the other side, lol.
I'm relying pretty heavily on her in Maddening as well. And if the enemies try to avoid attacking her. Well then they're still getting picked off, it just takes longer. LOL!
Sorry I didn’t hear a word you said about yunaka I was jamming too hard to the persona music
You never saw it coming.
Love the use of Xenoblade 3's chain attack for Boucheron's section
It feels like Firenne got the short end of the stick with its units, with only 2 or 3 decent units, while the other countries have plenty of good units, especially Brodia and Solm.
At the same time, Firine's join earlier, and many of them are essential to getting through the early chapters. If you use someone just for Firine before dropping them, they still deserve credit. Chapter 5 in particular is one of the harder parts of the game on Maddening.
@@BigKlingy that’s still no excuse if you’re someone who wants to use some of them to the very end, for example, Etie and Celine, I want to use them, but the others from later kingdoms hold them back
42:28 man, a lot of lines really aged well during the playthrough.
This is awesome what u put out, its a nice guide for everyone, i am looking foreard to the chloé and goldmary one, its nice to see what units skills and bases are and how they will impact the game
let vander cook
For Gregory you said enemies. It doesn't really matter but it makes his ability a bit more better since being surrounded by allies is more common
I will help you with Timerra. Here is the most brainless way to get her 1 rounding (I have more high skill builds, but we will focus on this)
Lance power 5, SPD+5, Sigurd.
I run T4 wells all game so I can afford to SP dump in this way to at least 3-5 units a playthrough but you could at the very least suggest this high SP cost build because she will 1 round at base no sandstorm, gets momentum damage, dex/def boost from sig and BLD increase.
If you want something cheaper:
SPD+5/Resolve+. Fensilar +3-5/Javelin +3-5 Roy OR Eirika. This build can switch between these emblems, the emblems damage fix her, she can function as a main tank on either due to her high DEF and SPD/average res letting her EP a large number of enemies (tested/proven on my channel, also stress tested against 7+ CH23 maddening enemies hitting her per turn, with both emblems).
On the Eirika Front it lets her 1 round playerphase and typically on EP. Roy gives +6 STR/+8 when engaged, Roy also gives more SPD/dex/def/res and you can use Binding Blade to proc sandstorm 1-2 range and it is weightless on her as it has 8 WT.
I am fine with people not finding her good but you could at least have the game knowledge to share when going over units THIS LATE after release. You also could have just parroted builds from my or other channels so you at least have a build to discuss instead of writing off the unit and claiming she's unfixable when I had her 1 rounding Lumera/Sombron pre well maddning with just Sigurd SPD+5 and a brave lance, using probability math to produce sandstorms (She took off 2 healthbars)
If we can get her working before the well, we can certainly get her working afterwards.
I'll try Roy sometime. Most of the times I've used Timerra I've had someone else in the army who needed Roy more. I used Eirika on her on my first run though.
@@BigKlingy No worries, it is like with most units. They will want good forges, engraves if relevant to build, good passives and a good emblem. I recently just did a thief only maddening run (no dlc) and I was able to get 13 STR hort 1 rounding on Eirika so we have the technology :)
Haven’t made it to the Merrin section yet but her in mage knight is very laughable, idk why in engage so many units can do very well in mixed classes due to their growths not being too lopsided like past games.
A lot of the girls were given decent Magic growths, though in some cases I wish those "points" had been redistributed into other stats, mainly TIMERRA. (As she really doesn't want to reclass)
using the XC3 Chain Attack theme when talking about Boucheron was so funny lmao
It's accurate to his role in the earlygame.
Vander= aka The Jagen* of FE:E idk heard it elsewhere 😅
Jagen. He's a character from FE1 who starts with really high stats at the start of the game but has really low growths so his level ups tend to be worse. It's a unit that typically works as a safety net for the early game, softening enemies to allow your weaker units to finish them off.
@@hisen3.146 oh... yeah never played any of the previous FE games except the FE mobile game 😅
Been awhile for the Character Guides for them being Recruitable the last time I watch of theirs so.. That's very nice. Including the DLC Fell Xenologue units..
When me and my buddy got access to the dlc, we both pretty much decided simultaniously that Anna would become our cannoneer. After that, she proceeded to pay the tuitions required for the other cannonners in my army (in his, she payed for other reclasses and mainly equipment upgrades). Once the luck gets high enough the gold starts flowin good lol
It's funny, I've trained Anna in a lot of runs and she still rarely activates her personal skill. But I've mostly used her as a Warrior.
1:32:47 I reclassed her to a sword general and it somewhat fixed her accuracy. Also, all of the winds managed to keep up with my post game team. Even taking 0 damage for post game enemies.
I hate how someone who's Dex sucks is stuck in Axe General, especially since we already had Jade.
@@BigKlingy fr. At least in the actual game we can patch up her shit accuracy with engravings/sigurd inheritance. In the xenologue itself she's just painful to use.
@@Sethg98 I struggle finding uses for Madeline in the Fell Xenologue. Thankfully she's only around for two chapters, but one of them is the really long final one...
it's 'ex-ass-er-baited' (exacerbated). 'exasperated' means that you're annoyed at something.
Great layout, though
I've held firm ever since the well update that Framme is nearly as good as Chloe with Eirika//Martial Master, freeing Chloe up to do some better stuff; Framme just needs a little bit of extra investment, but the well made that way easier. Also, Jean is hilariously swol as a Berserker.
I think Chloe's personal skill still edges her out as the best damage dealing Martial Master, especially when adjacent to Alear.
+6 damage + Eirika flat damage x4 go brrrr
I really need to try a damaging Martial Master sometime. The animations are amazing but it's hard to find someone who can really make it work.
I tried Warrior Jean on Maddening once. Unfortunately he wasn't that good as got him his first 10 levels as a Martial Monk.
@@BigKlingyIf you’re using dlc then Veronica is hilarious on any martial master thanks to retribution. You can make any unit into a murder machine. I did it with Goldmary who has low strength and magic and she was still one-rounding lategame maddening bosses at low hp
@@MommyRexacuse Retribution is broken on pretty much anyone, I find.
1:25:01 so something interesting I found about Nel. She has better stats as a halberdier. And this was after a reclass.
Fel Child (Nel/Nil/Rafal) has fairly bad base stats, if you're staying in it it's for the Dragonstones.
Just make Clanne a Griffon Rider with Swords and hand him a Levin Sword. Problem solved.
I’m only playing on hard classic and am nearly finished. My Diamant is an absolute monster. Practically nothing but Mages can damage him and he consistently doubles with ridiculous damage output. I guess I got lucky with RNG.
Unfortunately I can’t say the same for Alcryst, he’s suffered a lot of bad level ups and his speed is really bad. Only his dexterity isn’t awful. It’s a shame.
My first playthrough of Engage I was committed to taking Clanne to the endgame because I’m MHA trash. I was also a petty brat and resolved to not pair any unit with their default emblem,(I think I thought it was funny?) so I yoinked Celica from Celine and gave her to Clanne.
this is a great video, but you made one mistake by suggesting that Anna should utilise her bow proficiency and decently in-line growth rates to become a warrior, because now at least 80% of the fire emblem community will show up at your house to break your kneecaps for even daring suggest she become anything but a magic user! it happened to me once, not a fun experience.
but other than that this is a nice video, good work!
Honestly, I'm more afraid of the community coming after me for saying anything good about Anna at all. Most of where I look, people just go "bad bases, garbage." As I said here, I feel her chain attack utility is decent even if you don't train her (the Maddening anecdote is a true story, it wasn't even that hard to babysit her through Chapter 11).
But in general, I really like Radiant Bow Warrior Anna, even if technically a lot of people can hit Endgame flier OHKO thresholds with it. Personally she and Fogado are the easiest to setup with it early and it helps during Chapter 12-17.
@BigKlingy in my first runthrough, i went in with no knowledge of character/class growths, and Anna and Jean ended up both being my strongest units! Jean was often doing 100+ damage to armoured units just using arts, and Anna was carrying as a warrior (I didn't even give her a radiant bow, just a longbow and silver axe and she was bybfar my most useful backup unit). I feel a lot of people either just look at the growth rates or only take into account their personal experiences (typically a first playthrough for 'bad' units) and refuse to look further.