Oscar has improved a lot but bot lane is really unstable and under performs under pressure. I think we should give them a last chance in season finals but if they keep underperforming I don't think they should keep them
We should only switch Noah for ADC imo. Jun is a pretty good support mechanically, he just has a terrible decission making, which is something that can get fixed. And Oscarinin is not impressive, but he gets his job done. I would say the only viable LEC ADCs for next season are Upset (which 100% has to leave KC but hates Fnatic, so he probably won't return) and Flakked (who would definetly love to leave Heretics, but idk having 3 spanish players at once would maybe leave Huma and Jun too isolated). The other options are to look at ERLs or NA
im a g2 fan but i felt bad for fnatic it has to be so sad when i think about noah he did so well in every game early game then his the reason they lose game 3 was on him sadly the arcane shift into corki was the end of game 3 and prior to dat he gets caught out by kaisa w and so on even though he played a massive early game if u cant play slow u wont win vs a good team like g2
Still though that was only 1 game and doesnt explain how they lost game 1 and 2. Noah did have the lowest deaths on his entire team. He lost them game 3 from bad positioning that's true but game 1 and 2 were honestly on the rest of the team
Nah, even if FNC and G2 switched ADCs for this series, FNC would've still lost. They played snowball comps for all 3 games, so it's only natural that they win early game (their champions are stronger at that stage and Yike has a very poor macro), but then on mid-game you rely on your mechanics and being consistent. FNC is not a consistent team (not only Noah, but every other team member had mini-missplays every game, which slowly conceded more and more advantage) and G2 are mechanically better, so G2 take the lead with their scaling comp, which "suddenly" becomes unstoppable. Fun fact: almost every team that tried to play snowball comps this play-offs fucked up
@@playpul The biggest missplay on the 1st game was Jun's. Yike went bot looking for mushrooms or smth and Fnatic had the opportunity to take free Baron. But then Jun decided to go fight Caps 1v1 and die. Although Jun didn't play bad that game, that was certainly the missplay that gave G2 the lead and it wasn't Noah's fault
As Humanoid said himself, in the positions they were being ahead, they should play it slower then they did. Even with a baron buff they seek to TF for some reason. Particularly I don't see why you go in agressively with Leona unless you have to? I mean, Yun is a great player and all, but it was weird how they played this out.
I absolutely agree. Carzzy might be needed even more now and not because his skill as a player but as a psychologic element that will calm down the boys and help with shotcalling for razork. Plus hes untiltable great ADC and a content machine who can motivate Marek even more.
I hope they get a new management+maybe coaching staff and rebuild the team, maybe keep huma, he seems to be doing well/trying his hardest. It doesn't matter anymore how well this team does in the future. The org is at fault for making horrible decisions and over time alienating their best (Dylan, Rekkles, Upset, nemesis). They had so many solid players over the years but most of them just mentally broke. They are destroying talent like TSM did before they left the scene. Just be doen with it and rebuild the team before you lose it all.
I thought it was a mental problem and not skill issue and I was right, personally as fan I am happy with what they have done since the org worst split in 2023. Always in finals and I am pretty confident that if they manage to tone down the mental pressure that they have against G2 they can bring it home. For those of you that say “get rid of oscarinin and noah” just shut up please.
I agree, it makes me angry to see Noah choke like that but i know he is probably the best we can ask for rn, even better than Carrzy. What is driving me crazy is how clueless the coaches are on how to adapt drafts when they see that in 2/3 games going full early does not pay off... that Ornn drop was unforgivable
@@alphamf0I think if they picked Ornn instead of Renekton they could win. They didn't have a good frontline against G2's poke. They should picked a scaling adc for Noah or if they wanted him play Ezreal then Humanoid should have played Azir. I think with those drafts Noah could play with less stress and pressure. I feel very sad for him. I didn't watch the whole series because I couldn't handle it. I became worried when I saw FNC drafting Lucian Renekton again and again
I think if you include Noahs weaknesses he is the least valueable adc in the Lec! Yes hes very good mechanically but his mental is so bad and his decision making is the worst ive ever seen and it also seems like he drags down the atmosphere of the team like makes the vibes depressing and makes everyones confidence disappear... @mihailomiodrag7257
It just urks me to watch noah play or even look at him and to hear him speak. I used to feel the same way about Oscar but now noah has made oscar look amazing!....
TOP LEC TEAMS JUST NEED TO CONSTRUCT ACTUAL GOOD ROSTERS. SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE BUT THEY CANT MANAGE TO GET 5 SOLID PLAYERS THERE IS ALWAYS A WEAK SPOT. THIS TEAM WITH CARZZY BEATS G2 IN 3 GAMES
@@azhus9307 they played nowhere near their level, they legit inted all 3 games early and should have lost from that point but fnatic is just fuckin ass. G2 showed their level vs TES or T1 during MSI and that is bare minimum for them. If they played like that on sunday it would be a stomp with 3 perfect games
humanoid in this series was insane, it's so unfair that against g2 he played 5 lucian games and lost all 5 because in every one of them he was absolutely cracked
If he was actually insane he would've carry at least 1 of them to a win with the lead he has right? Let's be real, huma is very much a passenger, he is good but very rarely step up to carry his team
Him saying that they have good mental to beat G2 nexct week is just cope? i honestly cant think that u have the mental strength after this desaster to actually think u will win a week later
I feel bad for Humanoid, he was probably the best Fnc member in those finals, he even lovkey gapped Caps, but these throws from some Fnc members, especially Noah I would say, cost them the win, or at least some won maps. Nisqy was right, that Noah isn’t capable to carry or at least have impact, even tho he is super ahead. Same for Oscar kinda in some games..
yeah it's time for Fnatic to sign Rahel or Carrzy, coz Noah is the biggest coin-flip in the whole league and his mentality is just terrible. On the other side, I think Jun is a great support, even tho he was kinda tilted and inting in the last 2 series... And if I'm not wrong Carrzy wants to keep playing with Hili, so Rahel with Jun would make more sense imo. Even a new Korean import let's say somebody from LCK Challengers could be a great idea. For example Smashi Smash from T1 Academy would be a fire pick
He definitely didn’t gap caps. Caps was literally the only one ahead and carrying on G2 those games. Lucian is meant to win early hard against lucian, but you never saw humanoid get a substantive lead against caps. It was all the other fnc members which mega gapped G2 early
I see so many people say Humanoid gapped Caps but I legit never saw it. He never actually did any risk plays, he played it all safe and just got alot of last hits, also didnt have that many team fight changing ults. An example is where if he had held his ult he used on Miky and Hans that only did 30% dmg to them and saved it on the cc on caps instead, that would of been a free kill right there, instead he had enough health after the cc to flash out.
@@marseille1196i mean caps kinda did go down 1k every game despite the bailing out g2 always does for mid with support and jungle being perma there, if you wanna say later on he played better i say okay but he did get monstergapped just as much as all the others in lane, let’s not hide behind a stick
What is to blame about Oscar? He did his best with the champ he was given but Renekton is completely disfunctional within the context of that draft... he needed to get his hands on Ornn and this is coach's fault...
@@alphamf0 When has Oscar ever carried a game for FNC? he is plain useless. Literally every game. Imagine giving any pro player top laner a 4.5k gold lead and stil throw.
@alphamf0 I do not get Renekton, he is just a bad champ, sure its a guaranteed safe lane, but the champ.almost never contributes anything, lock in a carry and pray is a better strategy than locking in renek and getting one-shot. Also ezreal is actually the worst champ in the game.
@@swordxart1443 Oscar carried almost every game in the first weeks of FNC, first of all. Second, u can't do nothing with renekton when ur ADC is inting. Learn league of legends and watch the matches of fnatic then u can comeback and tell all of us that we are wrong and u are not.
I still think that hopefully broke this fcking roaster i cant anymore, they have to change everything the coaches the players the fcking gms i dont know what else but fcking hell
To everyone calling for Fnc Carzzy: Fnatic are broke af. I'd be surprised if the keep Razork or Humanoid after their contracts run out because their salaries are insanely high (that's why no other team wants to buy them out) so adding another player who will propably be in a very good negotiating position this off-season will never happen. They could maybe look at Upset because he's a free agent after this year and his stock is propably very low relative to his level (lec GMs literally form their opinions from Reddit). Also Razork desperately needs a second shotcaller in the early game, seeing how much better he looked with Trymbi so that might be a priority for them as well. In addition to that they look like they have very bad prep both for individual opponents and the overall meta as well as being not well managed/coached overall. They don't seem to have many standards for the mid and lategame in terms of setups, comp-specific approaches to fights and objectives so people don't always know their role and aren't on the same page as to how they want to play a situation. The reality is that adding Carzzy will help with them being less deceptable to choke but it's way to expensive for Fnatic and won't fix any of the other issues so it's just not a realistic option for them.
@@azhus9307 by comparing his play before they added Trymbi to his play with Trymbi and there was a definite improvement in their early games. He seemed way more confident in contesting camps and objectives, their back timers were way better syncronised, enabling them to get off more effective invades/roams over the map etc. To be fair he had to play with Rhuckz before that but I'd say he had the best synergy with Trymbi out of all of their supports including Hilly and Jun (tho Jun is at least currently way better than Trymbi and their synergy is propably good enough).
Yeah its really sad I hope he they get backup at worlds (in no world they dont make worlds) Humanoid always steps up insanely at worlds againdt every asian mid laner thats not chovy
I cant believe u chose to play Lucian 3 times when u had only 1 win with him this season. U had over 60% winrate with Azir, LB or Corki And u took the worst champion mid, just why? And Oscarini did the same shit, he was undeafeted with Ornn or Poppy and he took Renek 3 times? U just wanted to lose i guess.
Because they wanted a snowball early comp, in which you need Lucian instead of the champs you mentioned. Indeed the strategy was working, but if you keep giving away Ornn, after lv13 that snowball gets completely nullified. it was just a dumb draft that didnt consider the possibility of them not finishing the game after 25min.
What are you talking about? The botlane and especially Noah threw the games 3 times in a row as usual. It's been a year since he constantly choke in high pressure game. Oscar just need to stop playing renekton.
He looks so broken. I feel so bad. Him and Razork are our core. I hope they never leave.
Oscar has improved a lot but bot lane is really unstable and under performs under pressure. I think we should give them a last chance in season finals but if they keep underperforming I don't think they should keep them
We should only switch Noah for ADC imo. Jun is a pretty good support mechanically, he just has a terrible decission making, which is something that can get fixed. And Oscarinin is not impressive, but he gets his job done. I would say the only viable LEC ADCs for next season are Upset (which 100% has to leave KC but hates Fnatic, so he probably won't return) and Flakked (who would definetly love to leave Heretics, but idk having 3 spanish players at once would maybe leave Huma and Jun too isolated). The other options are to look at ERLs or NA
he is also GIGA STUBBORN and won't ever improve at best he will tell you he has 10 yrs of carirer and you are some D1 coach and suck yourself off
“our core”, humanoid and razork have the absolute biggest antisynergy out of all teams, wtf you on
@@vilukmusic thats cap
im a g2 fan but i felt bad for fnatic
it has to be so sad when i think about noah he did so well in every game early game then his the reason they lose game 3 was on him sadly the arcane shift into corki was the end of game 3 and prior to dat he gets caught out by kaisa w and so on even though he played a massive early game if u cant play slow u wont win vs a good team like g2
Still though that was only 1 game and doesnt explain how they lost game 1 and 2. Noah did have the lowest deaths on his entire team.
He lost them game 3 from bad positioning that's true but game 1 and 2 were honestly on the rest of the team
there was also that catch bot jg 3rd game, honestly was a huge throw since it gave ezreal shutdown as well
Nah, even if FNC and G2 switched ADCs for this series, FNC would've still lost. They played snowball comps for all 3 games, so it's only natural that they win early game (their champions are stronger at that stage and Yike has a very poor macro), but then on mid-game you rely on your mechanics and being consistent. FNC is not a consistent team (not only Noah, but every other team member had mini-missplays every game, which slowly conceded more and more advantage) and G2 are mechanically better, so G2 take the lead with their scaling comp, which "suddenly" becomes unstoppable. Fun fact: almost every team that tried to play snowball comps this play-offs fucked up
@@playpul The biggest missplay on the 1st game was Jun's. Yike went bot looking for mushrooms or smth and Fnatic had the opportunity to take free Baron. But then Jun decided to go fight Caps 1v1 and die. Although Jun didn't play bad that game, that was certainly the missplay that gave G2 the lead and it wasn't Noah's fault
didn't you feel bad about G2? They played terribly (I am their fan also)
Thank you for the interview! Very nice questions.
As Humanoid said himself, in the positions they were being ahead, they should play it slower then they did. Even with a baron buff they seek to TF for some reason. Particularly I don't see why you go in agressively with Leona unless you have to? I mean, Yun is a great player and all, but it was weird how they played this out.
hehe bronze viewer go brrr
@@underscore5673 haha, not able to come with actual criticism so go to personal attack instead, who could have guessed that was coming xD
@@wowJhil i just like ur analysis is all.
@@underscore5673 No you don't. But you felt the need to comment still, clap clap.
@@wowJhil cause you have no idea what ur talking about
FNC Carzzy might be the move
Get flakked
Nah Noah is better
@@Jolron14 than carzzy? bro stop smoke weed xD
Flakked for sure
another toplaner, razork humanoid carzzy jun
Humanoid u are still talented af, get your chzech adc "Carzzy" on bot and your gucci
We also need support Denyk, Toplaner Herdyn and jugnler Jejky. This team would win 4 world titles in row.
@@Glados00663 3 master players?
I absolutely agree. Carzzy might be needed even more now and not because his skill as a player but as a psychologic element that will calm down the boys and help with shotcalling for razork. Plus hes untiltable great ADC and a content machine who can motivate Marek even more.
@@Glados00663😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Noah>Carzzy
I hope they get a new management+maybe coaching staff and rebuild the team, maybe keep huma, he seems to be doing well/trying his hardest. It doesn't matter anymore how well this team does in the future. The org is at fault for making horrible decisions and over time alienating their best (Dylan, Rekkles, Upset, nemesis).
They had so many solid players over the years but most of them just mentally broke. They are destroying talent like TSM did before they left the scene. Just be doen with it and rebuild the team before you lose it all.
I thought it was a mental problem and not skill issue and I was right, personally as fan I am happy with what they have done since the org worst split in 2023.
Always in finals and I am pretty confident that if they manage to tone down the mental pressure that they have against G2 they can bring it home.
For those of you that say “get rid of oscarinin and noah” just shut up please.
I agree, it makes me angry to see Noah choke like that but i know he is probably the best we can ask for rn, even better than Carrzy.
What is driving me crazy is how clueless the coaches are on how to adapt drafts when they see that in 2/3 games going full early does not pay off... that Ornn drop was unforgivable
@@alphamf0I think if they picked Ornn instead of Renekton they could win. They didn't have a good frontline against G2's poke. They should picked a scaling adc for Noah or if they wanted him play Ezreal then Humanoid should have played Azir. I think with those drafts Noah could play with less stress and pressure. I feel very sad for him. I didn't watch the whole series because I couldn't handle it. I became worried when I saw FNC drafting Lucian Renekton again and again
I think if you include Noahs weaknesses he is the least valueable adc in the Lec! Yes hes very good mechanically but his mental is so bad and his decision making is the worst ive ever seen and it also seems like he drags down the atmosphere of the team like makes the vibes depressing and makes everyones confidence disappear... @mihailomiodrag7257
It just urks me to watch noah play or even look at him and to hear him speak. I used to feel the same way about Oscar but now noah has made oscar look amazing!....
We can’t believe that you lost like that either
TOP LEC TEAMS JUST NEED TO CONSTRUCT ACTUAL GOOD ROSTERS. SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE BUT THEY CANT MANAGE TO GET 5 SOLID PLAYERS THERE IS ALWAYS A WEAK SPOT. THIS TEAM WITH CARZZY BEATS G2 IN 3 GAMES
considering G2's form on sunday - yes, they pretty much win with Carzzy. If G2 played at their actual level? No way in hell Fnatic wins that
@@karolp8435 Delusional take what is this "actual level" cope?
Most of the teams don't have infinite money glitch brother it would be extremely expensive to have a team with "5 solid players"
@@azhus9307 they played nowhere near their level, they legit inted all 3 games early and should have lost from that point but fnatic is just fuckin ass. G2 showed their level vs TES or T1 during MSI and that is bare minimum for them. If they played like that on sunday it would be a stomp with 3 perfect games
@@karolp8435 oh god you are at most 12 years old to be that much of a delusional fanboy haha i get that g2 can play better but you talk shit haha
❤ Humanoid played well yesterday
Lmao. The Fnatic fanboy delusion already starting.
@@robertmusil1107 What delusion? Does it hurt your feelings?
@@robertmusil1107 but he legit did play well
"Feel deception" ca veut dire se "sentir une tromperie", faut pas improviser l'anglais mon gars
humanoid in this series was insane, it's so unfair that against g2 he played 5 lucian games and lost all 5 because in every one of them he was absolutely cracked
Its just lucian behing cringely overpowered in early and falling off
If he was actually insane he would've carry at least 1 of them to a win with the lead he has right? Let's be real, huma is very much a passenger, he is good but very rarely step up to carry his team
@@bachy4975 dawg its a lucian you cant fucking carry what happened
He was the least impactful fed lucian I have ever seen, even nuc managed to carry vs G2 as a fed lucian
@@augustwaza9124 doesnt fucking help if your ad gets caught out 2 games in a row
Him saying that they have good mental to beat G2 nexct week is just cope? i honestly cant think that u have the mental strength after this desaster to actually think u will win a week later
I feel bad for Humanoid, he was probably the best Fnc member in those finals, he even lovkey gapped Caps, but these throws from some Fnc members, especially Noah I would say, cost them the win, or at least some won maps. Nisqy was right, that Noah isn’t capable to carry or at least have impact, even tho he is super ahead. Same for Oscar kinda in some games..
yeah it's time for Fnatic to sign Rahel or Carrzy, coz Noah is the biggest coin-flip in the whole league and his mentality is just terrible. On the other side, I think Jun is a great support, even tho he was kinda tilted and inting in the last 2 series... And if I'm not wrong Carrzy wants to keep playing with Hili, so Rahel with Jun would make more sense imo. Even a new Korean import let's say somebody from LCK Challengers could be a great idea. For example Smashi Smash from T1 Academy would be a fire pick
He definitely didn’t gap caps. Caps was literally the only one ahead and carrying on G2 those games. Lucian is meant to win early hard against lucian, but you never saw humanoid get a substantive lead against caps. It was all the other fnc members which mega gapped G2 early
I see so many people say Humanoid gapped Caps but I legit never saw it. He never actually did any risk plays, he played it all safe and just got alot of last hits, also didnt have that many team fight changing ults.
An example is where if he had held his ult he used on Miky and Hans that only did 30% dmg to them and saved it on the cc on caps instead, that would of been a free kill right there, instead he had enough health after the cc to flash out.
@@marseille1196i mean caps kinda did go down 1k every game despite the bailing out g2 always does for mid with support and jungle being perma there, if you wanna say later on he played better i say okay but he did get monstergapped just as much as all the others in lane, let’s not hide behind a stick
@@fujoisgodlike_2727 this is just wrong caps was ahead in some games early idk what finals you watched
People actually dont blame Oscar for these losses actually insane for me
What is to blame about Oscar? He did his best with the champ he was given but Renekton is completely disfunctional within the context of that draft... he needed to get his hands on Ornn and this is coach's fault...
Don't blame Oscar lmao. Cope
@@alphamf0 When has Oscar ever carried a game for FNC? he is plain useless. Literally every game. Imagine giving any pro player top laner a 4.5k gold lead and stil throw.
@alphamf0 I do not get Renekton, he is just a bad champ, sure its a guaranteed safe lane, but the champ.almost never contributes anything, lock in a carry and pray is a better strategy than locking in renek and getting one-shot. Also ezreal is actually the worst champ in the game.
@@swordxart1443 Oscar carried almost every game in the first weeks of FNC, first of all. Second, u can't do nothing with renekton when ur ADC is inting. Learn league of legends and watch the matches of fnatic then u can comeback and tell all of us that we are wrong and u are not.
And the botlane didnt played better he chocked so hard in every game, the botlane managed to lose the fcking game solo
The whole team did stupid stuff, including Humanoid
FNC Carzzy opening
Of course it wasn't a skill issue, fnc are just the biggest chokers and we shouldn't be afraid to say it
Gengg looks unbeatable other than that i think every is playable
I still think that hopefully broke this fcking roaster i cant anymore, they have to change everything the coaches the players the fcking gms i dont know what else but fcking hell
To everyone calling for Fnc Carzzy: Fnatic are broke af. I'd be surprised if the keep Razork or Humanoid after their contracts run out because their salaries are insanely high (that's why no other team wants to buy them out) so adding another player who will propably be in a very good negotiating position this off-season will never happen. They could maybe look at Upset because he's a free agent after this year and his stock is propably very low relative to his level (lec GMs literally form their opinions from Reddit). Also Razork desperately needs a second shotcaller in the early game, seeing how much better he looked with Trymbi so that might be a priority for them as well. In addition to that they look like they have very bad prep both for individual opponents and the overall meta as well as being not well managed/coached overall. They don't seem to have many standards for the mid and lategame in terms of setups, comp-specific approaches to fights and objectives so people don't always know their role and aren't on the same page as to how they want to play a situation. The reality is that adding Carzzy will help with them being less deceptable to choke but it's way to expensive for Fnatic and won't fix any of the other issues so it's just not a realistic option for them.
Where are you getting that razork looked better with trymbi? Complete nonsense
@@azhus9307 by comparing his play before they added Trymbi to his play with Trymbi and there was a definite improvement in their early games. He seemed way more confident in contesting camps and objectives, their back timers were way better syncronised, enabling them to get off more effective invades/roams over the map etc. To be fair he had to play with Rhuckz before that but I'd say he had the best synergy with Trymbi out of all of their supports including Hilly and Jun (tho Jun is at least currently way better than Trymbi and their synergy is propably good enough).
He looks dead, I'm a G2 fan but I do feel for him
Yeah its really sad
I hope he they get backup at worlds (in no world they dont make worlds)
Humanoid always steps up insanely at worlds againdt every asian mid laner thats not chovy
@@luma7777 he stepped up vs caps as well. Super good player, however his botlane is to bad
Good luck Huma next time :)
Good luck humanoid !
Hi Sally xdd
need new top and adc thats all
Great interviewer
0:39 "Deception" WTF?!?
This interviewer is a joke.
legit lucian 3 games in a row was terrible culling and done while corki was strong af
You have choker adc. For once it's not your fault. You still gonna lose hard to BDS in the season finals if you don't do anything about your issues
Maybe you ask him how much they got for fixed match instead of these questions
I cant believe u chose to play Lucian 3 times when u had only 1 win with him this season. U had over 60% winrate with Azir, LB or Corki And u took the worst champion mid, just why? And Oscarini did the same shit, he was undeafeted with Ornn or Poppy and he took Renek 3 times? U just wanted to lose i guess.
Because they wanted a snowball early comp, in which you need Lucian instead of the champs you mentioned. Indeed the strategy was working, but if you keep giving away Ornn, after lv13 that snowball gets completely nullified. it was just a dumb draft that didnt consider the possibility of them not finishing the game after 25min.
@@nicolaportigiani6302Renekton is complete garbage, under any circumstances, there is always a pick that could have been better.
Dont wont to be one to say it, but top is big week spot for fanatic.
yeah not like oscar win lane vs every top in the league and very talented player said by asiats top
yo what u smokin? let me know
What are you talking about? The botlane and especially Noah threw the games 3 times in a row as usual. It's been a year since he constantly choke in high pressure game. Oscar just need to stop playing renekton.
They give renek to Oscar 3 time in a row then ppl start to say he is a weakpoint for Fnatic..
What a sad life is it being fnatic Toplaner.
Week 😂
please just replace noah and oscarin 😭
Sorry but kick Noah. He was the main reason that you lost these games. Im sorry for Noah
That's what FNC gets for kicking Rekkles. Without him FNC lacks spine and mental strength.
OMG a Rekkles fangirl. In the wild. What a unicorn.