I think such a system would be fine as long as it only applies when theres a distance between the T-dolls and enemies I would hate to get any of those 99% hit chances when you're face to face with an enemy and miss like in xcom lmao
I dont get complaining about the gacha system. If youve played enough gacha then you know its called "gatcha" for a reason. They either getcha with good rates or getcha with bad rates. But they will getcha if you play.
nah thats not it. We all know the risks of gambling, what we hate is that they're copying the Genshin format of gacha. It's base rate is really low but has a pity and the "50/50" mechanic. With my experience with Hoyo games, i don't expect to get lucky anymore and i just have to save enough until i can reach pity but this kind of thinking isn't really gacha anymore. It's more like resource management than gambling. Tbf i'd rather have 2015 fgo kind of gacha. 1% rate, no pity at all. essentially a true gacha experience. if i can pick tho, i would like the arknights gacha system, its a good balance between being luck-based while also being forgiving enough for f2p players.
For AR users, standard 5 star one is good enough to ignore I guess but you can’t deny the fact limited 5 star weapons are better and has their perk for sure
How important is to pull for Suomi? Tbh, I don't feel like pulling for Suomi or Ullrid, I'm more interested on Mosin-Nagant and the cat. I'm not planning to be the strongest, but I want to be able to enjoy the story (main story + events) and pull for waifu's like Vector and Springfield. Will I stay behind in the power curve and won't be able to keep up if I don't pull for Suomi?
I played the game without suomi and did just fine But having her is going to help you many times Sword girl I don’t have her and didn’t matter for me Vector and Springfield will be kinda long waiting Mosin is meme, so as the cat (unless you get clukay team)
11:19 I'm definitely getting Mechty for that home screen. I know the global release will have an event running on release as well. How is the usual event gameplay and difficulty? are they farmable or are they one-time clear rewards? or are they different in difficulty or rewards?
It’s going to have bit of learning curve but after playing the game for about a month, you should be able to auto most of event stuffs and only manual few things
I play other gachas so i'm kind of used to it, but even still, going from GFL1 to GFL2 sounds like it is going to be night and day as far as monetization goes. I realize they needed to monetize more than GFL1, but still hurts to see how much it seems to be.
The biggest scam genshin ever pulled was convincing the community that terrible rates with 50/50 pity is normal according to so many self proclaimed gacha ‘veterans’ who probably didn’t even know what a gacha is until they started genshin. They think 5 years of experience makes them know everything there is to know.
I believe as the game going to 2nd or 3rd year, tactical is no longer a thing anymore. Hence the best choice I will make is only playing SR dolls. Just wanna ask, have they released any new SR after launch?
does it get difficult?like actual challenge that auto button cannot defeat? So far i am just playing on auto ,barely any upgrades and i keep one shotting enemies and enemies barely have any damage on me. I know this is normal in the beginning, i just want know when exactly do i start getting actual challenge without relying on auto. ?
Idk if im interested in the actual gameplay..🤔 i do want to look at the girls in their full 3d glory but the XCOM like gameplay is not really my thing...would be fun if I can play them girls like Snowbreak but Snowbreak already exists lol
I am not the math person but from about a year of data collected from the game, gacha rate proves to be what it claims to be It’s about 10 pulls less than hoyo games in average Usually 60-70 range to get 5 star characters
Hey man thanks for the game review. It feels kind of good for me to return to GFL franchise. The review give me a good headstart understanding to the game. Also i want to ask something, i want to play it, but somehow i'm kind of reminded of the hard drive issue. So is it safe now for me to download ?(i know it's one year ago but it's still a haunting aspect that still linger in my mind. My sincere apology if this question is a bit weird/stupid or if it makes you or anyone read this a bit uncomfortable.)
When did the character you’re pulling for release so I have an idea of when she’s coming on global bc she’s one of the only characters who’s designs actually interest me from this game
It does have stuffs to go through early game But after certain level it’s just like any other gacha game that you login and sweep and sign out until next day
this gacha system is so overly used at this point i thought its just not worth going through it when 99% games follow this system with few things different
I don’t see why it’s such an deal with people…in my eyes it’s better than waiting for pure chance to roll them but with this system you know you are guaranteed to get them
Question: how impactful are merges. I play fire emblem heroes and they used to matter somewhat, not they matter next to nothing due to powercreep and overall merges are boring and anti fun. Note i don't play any of hoyo or that stuff. Feh is it. So idk the constellation point of reference at all. Edit: how does favoritism work out too.
earlier characters means bit less but i think later characters over time has much more stronger dupe effect for sure then again you dont really need that imo unless you want to one shot guild boss by yourself or something
@inFAMOUSJakey i see i'm fine with harder gameplay if my favorites can do work in any strategy game. My biggest grievence with FEH and why i'm looking to this game is how the wheel of powercreep is turning so fast and a lot of the power is in exclusive parts of character's kits that you just can't compete at times from go. But on the flip side if you have the strong units game is trivial. Recent map featuring two new and rather strong units (along with an escort of solid generics) is extremely hard on the highest difficulty. However a unit i have makes it a joke with them alone. However not using them makes it a case of not being able to kill one of the units with any sort of speed if at all depending on who. (They also have to survive as you fail if any unit falls.) If this game can avoid that i'll be content.
Great video mate! Really bummed out about the gacha, I avoid Hoyo games like the plague because their rates sucks. It doesn't even need to be much more generous than that, WuWa just has slightly better rates and a guaranteed weapon banner, and that was enough to keep me playing. Progression doesn't seem that good either from what you've said... I will play the game at release, but if it ends up being a time-gated mess with stingy rewards like Hoyo games, it will be an instant drop. I REALLY hope that the game will prove me wrong tho.
like i said, it's just hoyo system with overall better rate and value pack sales here and there like wuwa, main difference is that wuwa went far as making weapon banner grantee though i guess we will see how they will manage pull income
Imho. If the 50/50 has a rate where the odds are you will average getting closer to the SECOND PITY, which for Gfl2 means 160 pulls, they should do Snowbreak's Gacha. They use TWO systems, one is a 100%, the other the typical Gacha 50/50. The 100% has a HIGHER barrier to hit that Pity as well as the typical Hoyo miserable rate odds, meaning you WILL HIT that Pity almost always. While the 50/50 is the normal for these, 80 pulls for Pity, but the rate is above average, not Nikke levels of 3% for a SSR, but within 1% and above. Anything keeping only a 50/50 with shitty rates and odds is immediate F2P only for me. But do the Gacha Nikke style? As in they ADD the dolls to the common Gacha pool, or they doing the Blue Archive Bullshittery? (BA has 40+ Students that REMAIN locked behind their specific Gacha Banners, you need them to be rerun to get a shot, the odds are horrendous, usually MANDATING the spark at 200 rolls, which means 48K pyro, 3-4 MONTHS worth of F2P saved currency if you have a life outside malding in the ranking elements to nab all the 10pulls of pyro they reward for that, so the BA formula is Hardly any Dolls enter the common pool, remaining locked in their Banners, forcing you to plan which ones you have to save and pull for).
It is honestly ASKING TOO MUCH for Gachas to do an Action Taimanin style Gacha, where from personal experience, the only Gacha is the weapons, everything else you can farm currencies to acquire, even those spicy costumes sans some super exclusive ones. But if it is for Balance sake, then Snowbreak is honestly a GOLD STANDARD that should be followed, people joke about Snowbreak Route, yet they never realize just how damn GOOD a lot of other features it has are compared to any other Gacha. They give you the choice between a 100% pity gacha w/ Hoyo rates (so you mostly always hit that pity, making it easy to math your expenses for each Banner) or a typical 50/50 pity one. Weapon banner has lower pity barrier, and few Units demand their 5* sig weapon to truly shine, what's more, that shiny Sig weapon? YOU ONLY NEED ONE DUPE TO MAX ITS PERFORMANCE. Manifestation? (SB's Constelations) they have a farming feature where you can slowly farm 2 frags of 2 of the SSR operators a day, so you can unlock those neat extra bonuses even as F2P. Their events all offer a FREE 4* alternative to the Sig gun, not as powerful in built in effect, but a number of Operators aren't picky for adequate performance. And to jot forget, but the Pity counter for the Gacha CARRIES OVER, and they have TWO Mileage ticket shops (One is golden, with infinite supply of extra tickets or if you save enough, a list of 5* guns; the normal one has a limited monthly stock of the tickets, but is also packed with a shitton of currencies you need.
It works, sure. But if i am tbh, the only Gachas I consistently am fine rolling for and have kept playing through, are Nikke and Snowbreak, both have the better Gacha if you aren't bothering with those horrendous 60 bucks for a skin, Nikke has the new units enter common Pool soon after their banner ends, and overall both have more than enough freebies so F2P or Light spender both aren't hurting so hard. Were the sole Main barrier for performance of units been time as those two do (Nikke all you need is pass that 160 barrier, which if the Common pool rolling is anything to go, you will pass it, then it becomes just saving the resources to level up; SB has ALL parts that affect unit performance have a grindable way to get to it, so you are never truly hurting even as a F2P). So while Gacha works, it is honestly the Normies being... Normie coomsoomers that F shit up. More Gachas need to do a Snowbreak honestly, do stuff to make Tourists go away, because the ones who know Gacha more will kick the ass of games pulling shitty Gachas. The issue of Gacha is believing doing a Hoyo is the solution.
Ah That's the famous or infamous commander getting NTR the game. I'll try it but if i see any unit say "long time no see commander!", i want her off my team right now.
This was a great review. Thank you. I dropped Aether Gazer and wanted to try this. Didnt play the first one.
i think for new player to the series still many things to enjoy
There was a miss system in the early days of Chinese server CBT, but it was deleted due to criticism of its high difficulty.
I think such a system would be fine as long as it only applies when theres a distance between the T-dolls and enemies I would hate to get any of those 99% hit chances when you're face to face with an enemy and miss like in xcom lmao
yeah game has been in cbt hell for long time so many things changed over year i guess
@@Lunk42 so I can't do jokes of missing shot with 99% chance?
Just finished aliens dark descent and the 35% hit chance on hard is toxic af, fun tho lol
I dont get complaining about the gacha system. If youve played enough gacha then you know its called "gatcha" for a reason. They either getcha with good rates or getcha with bad rates. But they will getcha if you play.
i been playing gacha for long time but idk, it still gets to me time to time lol
nah thats not it. We all know the risks of gambling, what we hate is that they're copying the Genshin format of gacha. It's base rate is really low but has a pity and the "50/50" mechanic. With my experience with Hoyo games, i don't expect to get lucky anymore and i just have to save enough until i can reach pity but this kind of thinking isn't really gacha anymore. It's more like resource management than gambling. Tbf i'd rather have 2015 fgo kind of gacha. 1% rate, no pity at all. essentially a true gacha experience. if i can pick tho, i would like the arknights gacha system, its a good balance between being luck-based while also being forgiving enough for f2p players.
to be clear the problem isnt whether you can get all the premium units or not. the quality of the gacha system is the problem.
Idk why gacha players prefer gambling over resource management lol. I guess it’s just in their DNA
Imagine this... some gacha systems are more predatory than others. I know. 200 fucking IQ.
So how much of a priority are the weapon banners to characters? Similar to Hoyo? Should you focus on sig weapons for DPS over Support? Etc.
For AR users, standard 5 star one is good enough to ignore I guess but you can’t deny the fact limited 5 star weapons are better and has their perk for sure
All in for clukay 🙂
She is the one of the most op character so she is worth waiting for sure
How important is to pull for Suomi?
Tbh, I don't feel like pulling for Suomi or Ullrid, I'm more interested on Mosin-Nagant and the cat.
I'm not planning to be the strongest, but I want to be able to enjoy the story (main story + events) and pull for waifu's like Vector and Springfield.
Will I stay behind in the power curve and won't be able to keep up if I don't pull for Suomi?
Units don't matter that much just pull for whoever you want soumi is a good units definitely better than ullrid
You are not alone buddy
I played the game without suomi and did just fine
But having her is going to help you many times
Sword girl I don’t have her and didn’t matter for me
Vector and Springfield will be kinda long waiting
Mosin is meme, so as the cat (unless you get clukay team)
@@inFAMOUSJakey why do the girls I like are so not meta 😭
I have a feeling later on they will have near the amount of gfl 1 characters, but more story. Oc i just cant wait to get ump45 when she drops.
45 is prob saved up for 1.5 anni for cn server
11:19 I'm definitely getting Mechty for that home screen.
I know the global release will have an event running on release as well. How is the usual event gameplay and difficulty? are they farmable or are they one-time clear rewards? or are they different in difficulty or rewards?
It’s going to have bit of learning curve but after playing the game for about a month, you should be able to auto most of event stuffs and only manual few things
damn seeing you reviewing gfl reminds me of old times!
time fly
I play other gachas so i'm kind of used to it, but even still, going from GFL1 to GFL2 sounds like it is going to be night and day as far as monetization goes. I realize they needed to monetize more than GFL1, but still hurts to see how much it seems to be.
gamers voted with their wallet to create current gacha market so what else can i say
The biggest scam genshin ever pulled was convincing the community that terrible rates with 50/50 pity is normal according to so many self proclaimed gacha ‘veterans’ who probably didn’t even know what a gacha is until they started genshin. They think 5 years of experience makes them know everything there is to know.
I’m gonna be a casual and hoped I could auto. Thanks for addressing these.
I believe as the game going to 2nd or 3rd year, tactical is no longer a thing anymore. Hence the best choice I will make is only playing SR dolls.
Just wanna ask, have they released any new SR after launch?
Yeah but idk
Sr units are kinda mid, and usually used with other 5 star to shine so
Clear and concise review excellent, just curious about endgame myself but excited to see where this game goes
stat check exist but lots of them is also gimmick based as well
i guess if you are ultra mega whale then you can just clearly it easily though
Tldr: Genshin did a number on gacha ganes
Mega success game does wonders
does it get difficult?like actual challenge that auto button cannot defeat? So far i am just playing on auto ,barely any upgrades and i keep one shotting enemies and enemies barely have any damage on me. I know this is normal in the beginning, i just want know when exactly do i start getting actual challenge without relying on auto. ?
can u auto? I mean need a relaxing game for mobile gaming in general.
You should be able to auto pretty easily for story stages
Is it recommended to reroll focusing to get certain chaacter or just roll with anything u get early game?
suomi is best meta tanker to this date in cn server and global server is getting her day 1 so yeah, go after her
@@inFAMOUSJakey Thanks commander!
do i have to grind more than three days to built a character?
Idk if im interested in the actual gameplay..🤔 i do want to look at the girls in their full 3d glory but the XCOM like gameplay is not really my thing...would be fun if I can play them girls like Snowbreak but Snowbreak already exists lol
I'm curious why you think the gacha rates are better. Does it just have a nicer soft pity or something else?
I am not the math person but from about a year of data collected from the game, gacha rate proves to be what it claims to be
It’s about 10 pulls less than hoyo games in average
Usually 60-70 range to get 5 star characters
Hey man thanks for the game review. It feels kind of good for me to return to GFL franchise. The review give me a good headstart understanding to the game.
Also i want to ask something, i want to play it, but somehow i'm kind of reminded of the hard drive issue. So is it safe now for me to download ?(i know it's one year ago but it's still a haunting aspect that still linger in my mind. My sincere apology if this question is a bit weird/stupid or if it makes you or anyone read this a bit uncomfortable.)
I installed and it seems like okay
does gear grinding have multi layers of RNG?
its better than hoyo system but still rng elements exist
@@inFAMOUSJakey so no artifact with RNG stats grind?
Weapon attachment = artifact
When did the character you’re pulling for release so I have an idea of when she’s coming on global bc she’s one of the only characters who’s designs actually interest me from this game
she will come out not long after most likely so maybe early next year
Currently playing wuwa but giving this a try
f2p so never hurts to try
Do you think this game is time consuming or more like "login, spend energy, do dailies, leave"?
It does have stuffs to go through early game
But after certain level it’s just like any other gacha game that you login and sweep and sign out until next day
Will you be covering this game?
few things probably and thats about it
i plan to be casual player so
Gacha on limited banners is a bit more complicated than "50/50", if you fail you get guaranteed on next ssr.
this gacha system is so overly used at this point i thought its just not worth going through it when 99% games follow this system with few things different
@@inFAMOUSJakey Agreed, nothing new but guaranteed is always good for the consumer considering a lot of dolls need some dupes to really shine.
dafuq u saying, that's literally a hoyo trope
@@inFAMOUSJakeyexactly some things just aren’t common sense with some people.
I don’t see why it’s such an deal with people…in my eyes it’s better than waiting for pure chance to roll them but with this system you know you are guaranteed to get them
Iirc ceia mentioned that springfield’s skin will be the first l3d lobby skin or something like that
wa skin seems to be special too so we will see
@@inFAMOUSJakey still waiting on negev(mod hopefully) on that demon lord skin
is the weapon banner necessary to pull?
Depends what necessary means to you
I think most of weapon banners are worth it terms of stat wise
The new dorm features take a page out of Snowbreak where they let you have "flirty" scenes with them XD
Yeah I guess that’s kinda similar
Dude you can watch movies with them eventually?? That’s sick
wait you have a scathach looking girl who is that 9:00 she looking good bro i need this one!😍😍😍😍😍
will there be cross saves for steam and mobile?
not too sure about that, but they also have dedicated pc client so
Damn Good Review Bra 👏
How is the income in this game? Coming from WuWa, PGR and Nikke as F2P, how friendly is this game with us F2P plebs? :D
Very generous with F2P
long as you dont touch the weapon banner experience prob is some what around with wuwa
9:02 what does Chacs mean?
Characters
@@Shadowsteel never seen it being shortened that way before
Question: how impactful are merges. I play fire emblem heroes and they used to matter somewhat, not they matter next to nothing due to powercreep and overall merges are boring and anti fun. Note i don't play any of hoyo or that stuff. Feh is it. So idk the constellation point of reference at all.
Edit: how does favoritism work out too.
earlier characters means bit less but i think later characters over time has much more stronger dupe effect for sure
then again you dont really need that imo unless you want to one shot guild boss by yourself or something
@inFAMOUSJakey i see i'm fine with harder gameplay if my favorites can do work in any strategy game. My biggest grievence with FEH and why i'm looking to this game is how the wheel of powercreep is turning so fast and a lot of the power is in exclusive parts of character's kits that you just can't compete at times from go. But on the flip side if you have the strong units game is trivial. Recent map featuring two new and rather strong units (along with an escort of solid generics) is extremely hard on the highest difficulty. However a unit i have makes it a joke with them alone. However not using them makes it a case of not being able to kill one of the units with any sort of speed if at all depending on who. (They also have to survive as you fail if any unit falls.)
If this game can avoid that i'll be content.
I wonder if mr raymond will appear on global or not 😂
We gon have Tyrone in global
Prob not
this games gacha pity and guaranteed to cross banner ?
If you mean pity carries over then yeah
@@inFAMOUSJakey thanks bro 🙇
It's a shame that 95% of all girls didn't keep their weapon names. Really gave the first game a particular vibe that is straight up missing here.
Great video mate!
Really bummed out about the gacha, I avoid Hoyo games like the plague because their rates sucks. It doesn't even need to be much more generous than that, WuWa just has slightly better rates and a guaranteed weapon banner, and that was enough to keep me playing.
Progression doesn't seem that good either from what you've said... I will play the game at release, but if it ends up being a time-gated mess with stingy rewards like Hoyo games, it will be an instant drop. I REALLY hope that the game will prove me wrong tho.
like i said, it's just hoyo system with overall better rate and value pack sales here and there like wuwa, main difference is that wuwa went far as making weapon banner grantee though
i guess we will see how they will manage pull income
Thanks for the info. I am morbidly curious about Mr. Raymond's game, will definitely scope it out.
ahaha, nice one
Imho.
If the 50/50 has a rate where the odds are you will average getting closer to the SECOND PITY, which for Gfl2 means 160 pulls, they should do Snowbreak's Gacha.
They use TWO systems, one is a 100%, the other the typical Gacha 50/50.
The 100% has a HIGHER barrier to hit that Pity as well as the typical Hoyo miserable rate odds, meaning you WILL HIT that Pity almost always.
While the 50/50 is the normal for these, 80 pulls for Pity, but the rate is above average, not Nikke levels of 3% for a SSR, but within 1% and above.
Anything keeping only a 50/50 with shitty rates and odds is immediate F2P only for me.
But do the Gacha Nikke style? As in they ADD the dolls to the common Gacha pool, or they doing the Blue Archive Bullshittery? (BA has 40+ Students that REMAIN locked behind their specific Gacha Banners, you need them to be rerun to get a shot, the odds are horrendous, usually MANDATING the spark at 200 rolls, which means 48K pyro, 3-4 MONTHS worth of F2P saved currency if you have a life outside malding in the ranking elements to nab all the 10pulls of pyro they reward for that, so the BA formula is Hardly any Dolls enter the common pool, remaining locked in their Banners, forcing you to plan which ones you have to save and pull for).
It is honestly ASKING TOO MUCH for Gachas to do an Action Taimanin style Gacha, where from personal experience, the only Gacha is the weapons, everything else you can farm currencies to acquire, even those spicy costumes sans some super exclusive ones.
But if it is for Balance sake, then Snowbreak is honestly a GOLD STANDARD that should be followed, people joke about Snowbreak Route, yet they never realize just how damn GOOD a lot of other features it has are compared to any other Gacha.
They give you the choice between a 100% pity gacha w/ Hoyo rates (so you mostly always hit that pity, making it easy to math your expenses for each Banner) or a typical 50/50 pity one.
Weapon banner has lower pity barrier, and few Units demand their 5* sig weapon to truly shine, what's more, that shiny Sig weapon? YOU ONLY NEED ONE DUPE TO MAX ITS PERFORMANCE.
Manifestation? (SB's Constelations) they have a farming feature where you can slowly farm 2 frags of 2 of the SSR operators a day, so you can unlock those neat extra bonuses even as F2P.
Their events all offer a FREE 4* alternative to the Sig gun, not as powerful in built in effect, but a number of Operators aren't picky for adequate performance.
And to jot forget, but the Pity counter for the Gacha CARRIES OVER, and they have TWO Mileage ticket shops (One is golden, with infinite supply of extra tickets or if you save enough, a list of 5* guns; the normal one has a limited monthly stock of the tickets, but is also packed with a shitton of currencies you need.
Well people can hate all it wants but that gacha proven to work years so lol
It works, sure. But if i am tbh, the only Gachas I consistently am fine rolling for and have kept playing through, are Nikke and Snowbreak, both have the better Gacha if you aren't bothering with those horrendous 60 bucks for a skin, Nikke has the new units enter common Pool soon after their banner ends, and overall both have more than enough freebies so F2P or Light spender both aren't hurting so hard.
Were the sole Main barrier for performance of units been time as those two do (Nikke all you need is pass that 160 barrier, which if the Common pool rolling is anything to go, you will pass it, then it becomes just saving the resources to level up; SB has ALL parts that affect unit performance have a grindable way to get to it, so you are never truly hurting even as a F2P).
So while Gacha works, it is honestly the Normies being... Normie coomsoomers that F shit up. More Gachas need to do a Snowbreak honestly, do stuff to make Tourists go away, because the ones who know Gacha more will kick the ass of games pulling shitty Gachas.
The issue of Gacha is believing doing a Hoyo is the solution.
Im expecting Klukai
at least 6 months waiting room
why sexualize my baby hk416, I like her the way she is in gfl, she gone wild now 😢*
Idk about that when you look at GFL 1 skins
Fantastic video
@@keimaz 🦀
Ah That's the famous or infamous commander getting NTR the game.
I'll try it but if i see any unit say "long time no see commander!", i want her off my team right now.
I think lots of dolls are kinda like that
I'm gonna wait till HK416 come out. Not big fan of XCOM
you will be waiting for awhile
Was listening to this video in the background and the ending song was dope to listen to
Stoked
Rip CS lost to gf 2k views
I don’t play games or make videos for views though and you know that lol
I'm just disappointed over the gacha model adopted. The first game was perfect in all ways. But i guess hoyo follows u everywhere.
damn, they made a gacha xcom full of woman, what a miss
0.6% rate 50/50 and weapon banner 💀 definitely going casual till I get bored or forget
It’s the standard gacha system at this point so
Game : I'm a tactical game
Also game : Waifu on her bike aoe cleans one fifth of the map
clukay always been op in all gfl games i guess at this point lol
You know everyone skip up the story section right? hahahaha
i mean if its unenjoyable wall of text slob i skip too but i generally try to give it a try first most of time
@ liked.
weapon banner... god no... instant drop.
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