Let me go ahead and get this out of the way before I get 200 more comments that cant wait to correct me. IM FULLY FUCKING AWARE THE FIRST BATMAN CAME OUT IN 1989. I say the 1989 Batman at least twice in the review. In the opening when I'm discussing being born when the first Batman movie was released and a huge deal...I was born just over a week after 1989. Please try talking about a film for over a half hour and make absolutely zero verbal slips and then you can waste my time with your "um actually..." comments. For everyone else that doesnt use RUclips as an avenue to correct complete strangers over the most trivial inconsequential details...thank you!
It's not a big enough mistake to be addressed in my opinion. It came out in 89 but not for sale till 90 I believe. I was 10 and the toys was the last toys I remember having the need to collect
I found the relationship between Bruce and Selina to be nearly perfect. They are both troubled individuals who've dealt with death and extreme loss, as well as their alternate personas, plus they are attracted to each other as well. After all of their violent encounters, followed by the reveal at the ball, I think everything works very well when it comes to the emotion of their relationship and believability. In many ways, they are the same, and are each other's soul mate.
I defenitely agree with that, it's one of my favorite parts of the movie. I always wonder what their relationship would've been like if they made a sequel.
this is a excellent sequel. can't say that for the next 2 lol.first Batman movie from 1989 is my favorite of all Batman movies and Michael Keaton is the best Batman IMO.
To me, Batman does have a character arc. he sees his reflection in Selina. In the first Batman film he doesn't kill anyone until he finds out Joker killed his parents. Then he let's the blood flow. Even after he gets his revenge, he still let's the blood flow in returns. It's not until he sees selina about to kill max that he realizes the error in his murderous ways and trys to dissuade her from going down that path. The arc even extends into forever with him trying to keep robin from seeking revenge
Nothing extends into Batman Forever besides actors Michael Gough and Pat Hingle. Joel Schumacher explained in 1995, "Tim's films were his version of Batman comic books. This is ours. When Val came on board, that further made it a new franchise because we had a different Batman." www.newspapers.com/image/495757189/ Tim Burton was producer in name only on Cabin Boy and Batman Forever.
Agreed, Batman/Wayne realize that Selina and Bruce are not so different and I think he would have even given up being Batman for her love. That is a powerful arc that we don't get to see until The Dark Knight Rises. But in that movie he and Selina do fall and love and have a happy ending instead of the more downbeat one in Batman Returns.
He never even finds out get true motivations. He's just fumbling around in the dark. Batman killing is the worst sin of all these directors, they don't get the character at all. You kill, makes you no different than the criminals you take down.
Patrick Batemen clearly kept right on killing people as Batman. Remember that ninja temple he burned down? Think about how man caged prisoners the league kept in there. Then there was the blatant murder of the Joker's garbage truck driver in the second one. And Two-Face.
He was great but he wasn't very well written to me. Pretty one-dimensional and underutilizied compared to his villans and too small to pull off Batman for me.
Jean Baptiste But Kevin Conroy's Batman, which is the definitive version, does not kill. Christian Bale does not have that good Bat voice but he is the best of not killing. Kevin Conroy did the best at not killing.
Juno2000 I actually prefer Batman Returns to the first movie. The Tim Burton movies have their faults and Cody is right in a lot of ways. He has made a few great movies but overall he is more style over substance. I enjoy Burton’s Batman movies but they don’t stand the test of time. I remember the critics reaction to his Batman movies at the time. They were seen as being dark. Yet now we can see the campiness to them. They were dark compared to the 60’s tv series.
Aside from the Christopher Nolan Batman movies, this is my favorite Batman movie. I like the darker tone. But I’m a Tim Burton fan, so I dig the gothic feel of this one. I liked it way better than the 1989 version. The first Batman was a little too campy.
He's my favorite Batman as well. I'm a die-hard of the two Burton films, though I'm not a fan of Tim Burton in general. Oh, and off-topic, I just wanted to say that I saw Watchmen for the first time recently and Rorschach is my favorite character from that film.
...... Good dissertation! Batman Returns was such a dark, cutting edge movie for the time, and would probably be embraced by today's audience. Danny DeVito is quite good as this Shakespearean, Richard the III- like Penguin. And yes, Danny Elfman's score is really cool.
Hands down my favorite Batman movie ever made. Idc how good The Dark Knight is and idc what Batman movie they ever make in the future, nothing will ever beat Returns for me. Pfeiffer will always be my Catwoman.
It's a Fun Ride! I've seen both Tim Burton "Batman" films in the theaters when they were released. Note: if it was not mentioned yet by any comments prior: Christopher Walken's character of Max Schreck, unrelated to any Batman Comics, was taken from an old silent film actor, from Germany. Max Schreck, who played the "rat-like" looking vampire in F.W. Murnau's silent masterpiece, "Nosferatu" (1922).
Batman has always been a secondary character to his villains. In comics and in cartoons, batman was always a supporting character to his villain plots; he is always in the shadows, letting the villains shine, and that's what makes them so interesting.
As someone who was a kid throughout the Tim burton movies, the marketing for the movie was amazing. I caught up in all of it. The toys, games, t shirts etc etc. Batman returns was everywhere. I was so excited for this movie. When it released, my parents took me and my bro to the theater. We get to the ticket booth, and my father says “let me get four for sister act”. I was so mad! Lol when sister act finished, a family friend was at the theater and saw how mad me and my bro were. She offered to take us to see Batman returns. What a life saver. Thought the movie was awesome! Lol I’ll never forget that story.
This is my favorite Batman film. Between Keaton's quiet panicked confusion to Pfeiffer's subtle psychotic break, it has the greatest character reveals in all comic book movie history.
Yeah, they wouldn't have had her fall through a series of awnings otherwise. She never dies in the movie. Odd that people leap to that conclusion, considering in her original origin she was a stewardess that survived a plane crash. A secretary ain't that different. People take a character's rantings as solemn truth, like when Nolan's characters are waxing poetic about never taking a life, yet we the audience witness blatant disregard for taking the lives of criminals and even innocents. I guess it's meant to make Bale seem more crazy? Selina never suffers a mortal wound in this movie. Taking a short fall into a greenhouse? Look at the gun shots on her costume carefully. It's a shoulder wound and maybe a grazing on her thigh, while others apparently missed completely. If there is something supernatural at play, it's LUCK, not magical zombie regeneration.
I admire Returns more than I like it. It reminds me of Temple of Doom where it's a completely different beast than its predecessor. I still think Michelle Pfeiffer gives the best performance of any actress in a Batman film, and I do think Devitto's performance is underrated as well. Overall I'm not sure that it works for me as a whole, but I like a lot about it. I do love the 89 film though, and Keaton's my personal favorite Batman.
Hahahahahaha, love the "bat symbol" in the background. Opening music kicks ass too. There's only one way to approach this movie and that is to view it as a fairy tale or a fable. That's how I approach it and that's why I freakin love it. I think the Penguin is a great villain because, even though he attempts to do some of the most heinous stuff, he's still somewhat sympathetic. Dude was tossed away like a piece of trash. And there is a sense there that he might not have followed through with his plan had the people of Gotham continued to love him. Either way, his hatred come from a place that gives him a certain amount of justification. I love Pfeiffer's Catwoman. She's got a great character arc and I think Shreck makes the perfect foil for her. The production design is frickin beautiful. I can watch this movie just for that element alone!
Haha I added that symbol as a last minute touch. Yeah it's a very unique and interesting movie for sure. I always find myself starved for Batman focus in these movies that give all the attention to the villains. I know Batman has the greatest villains in comic books but I like a balance.
Batman Returns is flat out awesome. It is a really hard film to quantify but I still like it and all the characters are just a blast to watch. There is a story by the way. Penguin wants to be accepted but at the same time has a killer plan b that gets back at Gotham's Elite society, Max Shrek wants a power plant to control Gotham, Selina Kyle wants a better life but struggles with right and wrong but wants revenge on her boss for trying to kill her after she discovers his secret plan. And all this relates to Bruce Wayne and Batman and his own struggles for purpose in life. Nobody really get what the want and it all ends in tragedy. It is all very poetic and sad.
Keaton will always be my favorite Batman. Hell, I named my youngest son Keaton. To me, Keaton is the most believable Batman. He looks like he would dress up as a Bat. And those eyes!!! I want to see a film adaptation of the Dark Knight Returns with Keaton.
I think you missed your calling as a stand up comedian Cody! This review is SO hilarious. I was laughing the whole back half of your review as you described all the things that go down in this crazy sequel. Funny stuff. Appreciate the laughs.
Batman is my all time favorite hero my first introduction to the iconic dark knight was the (1990's)the Batman animated series such a unique experience loved it
This is my all time favorite Batman movie. The esthetic, the performances, the darkness... I love it all. Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman is the best Batman villain ever to appear in a live action film.
18:54 Apparently, the plan had been for Shreck to be revealed as Penguin's brother, but it was cut for time. That could've added some intrigue and stakes to the second and third act albeit it wouldn't have helped the pacing and storytelling.
My thinking is yours in reverse..I'll take Tim Burton's Batman's over BM Forever and BM and Robin anytime. Besides Jack Nicholson as the Joker, I thought Batman Returns was an improvement over the original. I think Michael Keaton should come back in a Batman Beyond adaptation with him as an older Bruce Wayne and training a new apprentice (Terry McGinnis)
Great review Cody! It's great to hear some honesty about this movie for a change. Have you thought about reviewing all the other Batman films and doing a ranking afterwards? I'd love to hear your thoughts on them (especially Batman and Robin lol). Merry Christmas!
I respectfully disagree I was born in 89 and grew up with all the Batman movies from then and after I thought this one was the best until TDK but I loved how much darker this movie is even as a kid I could tell this was the darkest coolest and most demented Batman movie and imo the best Batman of the ones from the 90s no doubt
Another great review! About a decade or so, I saw it one time only. My thoughts on the Batman Returns are limited to I made good memories with my cousin who is deceased who is my equal, enjoyed Keaton as Batman since the first movie 89 and other movies, soundtrack is hazy with me and Penguin did a good job of being creepy. It appears I should watch this movie as an adult to see if I enjoy as an adult. Happy Holidays/ Merry Christmas to Cody Leach and everyone else.
For me personally, the TB movies were my proper introduction to Batman. I had watched the 60's Batman as a kid, but these were a completely different thing to me that sealed in that original foundation. TAS was the cap on that foundation. To confirm how some parents felt about this movie, my mother made me record over it.
This is my safest bet ever: Fanbase (upon reading about Tim Burton's Catwoman): No!!!!!!! Fanbase (upon seeing Tim Burton's Catwoman): Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There's no red blooded male on this Earth (who has seen the movie of course) that didn't fall head over heels for Pfeiffer's Catwoman. And Cody is wrong about Bruce and Selina not making sense: they both are broken/psychotic and they clearly feel drawn to each other because they sense the other is like them sonehow.
IMO Batman Returns is one of the most Batman, Batman films ever made 🤷🏻 Burtons Gothic style and influence which was allowed to flourish in this sequel is probably what made me adore it when I first saw it at the cinema and I still maintain it one of the best Batman films… basically this and 89 are perfect in my heart of hearts 😂
I really enjoyed your review of Batman Returns Mr Leach. I happen to be a very big fan of Tim Burton Batman Universe and the Batman Universe over all. Batman Returns happens to be my favorite of the batman franchise I liked it for the reason you didn't for it's wild twisted and nightmarish feel of it. It reminds me of a Batman graphic novel or a Batman Elseworld story but that's my opinion oh and by the way I think you're kinda wrong about Selena Kyle she didn't really die when she was pushed out the window. The Batman Returns comicbook and novelization explains that she falls through three awnings and landed on a deep snow drift so she was only unconscious not dead so technically she wasn't a zombie lol their's also a comic book reference that Tim Burton was going for in the whole catwoman story line. But great review Mr Leach keep them coming.
I was 18 and saw this with a high school friend around 2 in the afternoon....I fell asleep about 30 minutes into this movie. Rented it once when it came out in case I missed anything. I didn't. Haven't seen it since.
In one of the scripts a pre Two Face Harvey Dent was in the film and he was the one Catwoman wanted revenge on. The way Catwoman kills Shreck was how Harvey would get scarred. And in another script Shreck was a Cobblepot and Penguin's big brother who changed his name because he hated his parents for throwing Oswald in the sewer.
@Cody Leach speaking of Christmas, I'm starting my review channel for movies and games, I'm kicking it off with Joker, COD: MW 2019 is my next then after is Blumhouse's Black Christmas Not hyped about Black Christmas really, but for sure I'll review it
great job cody. danny devito has done sunny in philly since this and well you can say it tops this by miles in character. and this is my favorite batman after the dark knight trilogy
Great video, Cody. I really love Tim Burtons Batman films. They're very unique...gothic horror comedies almost. Id like to see Matt Reeves combine Burtons and Nolans elements.
I completely agree with all of your points. I enjoy Batman Returns, but there are major issues. I think this movie is TOO Tim Burton-ish and weird at times to enjoy. I don't care what people say about The Dark Knight (it's my favorite Batman movie), I think Batman Returns is the darkest Batman movie to date. If I had to choose between being stuck in a room with Heath Ledger's Joker or Danny DeVito's Penguin, I would choose the Joker any day. I really like DeVito's Penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman portrayals, but I like Robin Lord Taylor's Penguin and Camren Bicondova's Selina Kyle from the Gotham show more. I also like Michael Keaton as Batman. Batman Returns is an odd movie, but I like parts of it. I like The Dark Knight Trilogy and Batman (1989) more, but I don't hate Returns. On a side note, another Christmas movie that I like (I think it's an overlooked one) is Invasion U.S.A. with Chuck Norris.
Your not the only one that was surprised by how dark it was. That’s why the studio never gave us a third tim burton Batman because it was hard to sell toys for.
Cody you are so right about how dark it is. Its ironic because I love it, but I now see your point about Catwoman and Penguin, looking back at it, I was like wtf??? I would've preferred Selina to not die, but something breaks her fall and when she goes home, she still naps! As for Penguin...damn he was gross lol
This movie has aged very oddly. I saw it in theaters and had all the toys so it has a special place in my heart. For years to me it looked badly dated but when the Batman Arkham games came out, it kind of revived my love and respect for this movie. Batman '89 on the other hand is an all-time favorite of mine, I've always been a defender of that one.
If I was ranking the Batman films Returns, and The Dark Knight Rises would occupy the same spot. There's a lot of problems with both films, but also a lot to like as well so they're a bit of a mixed bag for me. The 89 film is my second favorite Batman film. That, and The Dark Knight are the only Batman films I absolutely love.
i agree with some points of you (especially the romance thing with bruce wayne and selina kyle), but other than that this was one of my favourite movies when i was a child. earlier in life (when i was about four or five years old) i watched the "batman" show with adam west and was at first TERRIFIED of the trailer of "batman" from 1989, because he had such long ears... but then i calmed down (at about 8 years old), watched both movies by tim burton and loved them. the music of danny elfman still has a strong influence on my own music. def prefer the second movie, the style is also something i appreciate. nice off-the-grid review!
I agree with u for Batman Begins the story is more superior then The Dark Knight Heath Ledger as the joker is why people say the movie is better but I think his performance is what makes it more entertaining but Begins storywise is above the second Nolan installment. Yes Michelle Is still catwoman . I always loved Batman returns the most just cuz of catwoman and her badassism.
If Suicide Squad wasn't such a abysmal and the script for it, Margot Robbie's Portrayal of Harley Quinn could have rival Michelle Pfeiffer's Portrayal of Catwoman.
Horrormaster13 Kristen Bell and Samara Weaving might have been better choices for Harley Quinn. My main problem is that Margot never wears a proper Harley costume as her main outfit. Her costume look like something from Megan Fox's closet. Her Birds of Prey outfit looks like something she wears to the gym. Oh man WTF! Put her in a Arkham video game outfit please.
@@seancollins312 Are you unable to respect/accept someones different opinion, or is the vitriol of your keyboard too high? Christopher Nolan fantard! LMAO
I don't think Selena died when she became Catwoman. It was purposely ambiguous but each of her later "deaths" were survivable. Her character was largely psychological in nature with Catwoman being like Frankenstein's monster.
Growing up, tim burtons take on the pinguin and catwoman was intense, dark and creepy and I loved it!!!!!! At least imo, It was way better than the previous one, the score was memorable and who doesnt enjoy walken performance. Pfeiffer took catwomans role and ran with it and its the only catwoman ill ever love (even though I still havent seen kravitz daughter yet). Considering the time it was made it was perfect
Same i was born in 1990 i had the same feeling as a kid i liked batman returns the movie more than 1989 batman i played the hell out of batman returns on snes as a kid Rest of the movies were kool but now as a adult return is way better than forever and bat and robin
Let me go ahead and get this out of the way before I get 200 more comments that cant wait to correct me. IM FULLY FUCKING AWARE THE FIRST BATMAN CAME OUT IN 1989. I say the 1989 Batman at least twice in the review. In the opening when I'm discussing being born when the first Batman movie was released and a huge deal...I was born just over a week after 1989. Please try talking about a film for over a half hour and make absolutely zero verbal slips and then you can waste my time with your "um actually..." comments. For everyone else that doesnt use RUclips as an avenue to correct complete strangers over the most trivial inconsequential details...thank you!
Dont worry about it baby. It makes people feel good to point out other people's mistakes.
In case I missed it what is your favorite Batman film?
Cody Leach ok I watched the rest of the video and I apologize I do love your reviews tho
It's not a big enough mistake to be addressed in my opinion. It came out in 89 but not for sale till 90 I believe. I was 10 and the toys was the last toys I remember having the need to collect
It’s alright
I always loved the dark tone of Batman returns
I found the relationship between Bruce and Selina to be nearly perfect. They are both troubled individuals who've dealt with death and extreme loss, as well as their alternate personas, plus they are attracted to each other as well. After all of their violent encounters, followed by the reveal at the ball, I think everything works very well when it comes to the emotion of their relationship and believability. In many ways, they are the same, and are each other's soul mate.
Dude!!! Agreed. I think it's the best adaption of their relationship on film so far.
I defenitely agree with that, it's one of my favorite parts of the movie. I always wonder what their relationship would've been like if they made a sequel.
Definitely agree!
@@jalenjohnson1662 not anymore.
this is a excellent sequel. can't say that for the next 2 lol.first Batman movie from 1989 is my favorite of all Batman movies and Michael Keaton is the best Batman IMO.
To me, Batman does have a character arc. he sees his reflection in Selina. In the first Batman film he doesn't kill anyone until he finds out Joker killed his parents. Then he let's the blood flow. Even after he gets his revenge, he still let's the blood flow in returns. It's not until he sees selina about to kill max that he realizes the error in his murderous ways and trys to dissuade her from going down that path. The arc even extends into forever with him trying to keep robin from seeking revenge
jh.haggerty Exactly.
Batman definitely kills people in the 1989 film before the end
Nothing extends into Batman Forever besides actors Michael Gough and Pat Hingle. Joel Schumacher explained in 1995, "Tim's films were his version of Batman comic books. This is ours. When Val came on board, that further made it a new franchise because we had a different Batman." www.newspapers.com/image/495757189/
Tim Burton was producer in name only on Cabin Boy and Batman Forever.
Agreed, Batman/Wayne realize that Selina and Bruce are not so different and I think he would have even given up being Batman for her love. That is a powerful arc that we don't get to see until The Dark Knight Rises.
But in that movie he and Selina do fall and love and have a happy ending instead of the more downbeat one in Batman Returns.
He never even finds out get true motivations. He's just fumbling around in the dark. Batman killing is the worst sin of all these directors, they don't get the character at all. You kill, makes you no different than the criminals you take down.
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Great comment. But true. Cody is brilliant.
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Michael Keaton is by far my fravorite Batman and Michelle Pfeiffer was phenomenal as Catwoman. I loved Kim Basinger in the first Batman movie as well
In my opinion Michael Keaton is the best live action Batman/Bruce Wayne.
not only your opinion man , he is the real Batman ;)
Patrick Batemen clearly kept right on killing people as Batman. Remember that ninja temple he burned down? Think about how man caged prisoners the league kept in there. Then there was the blatant murder of the Joker's garbage truck driver in the second one. And Two-Face.
Keaton is the best. I thought Bale made a better wayne
He was great but he wasn't very well written to me. Pretty one-dimensional and underutilizied compared to his villans and too small to pull off Batman for me.
Jean Baptiste But Kevin Conroy's Batman, which is the definitive version, does not kill. Christian Bale does not have that good Bat voice but he is the best of not killing. Kevin Conroy did the best at not killing.
Batman Returns is an Underrated Sequel Classic this movie rulez!!!!
Juno2000 I actually prefer Batman Returns to the first movie. The Tim Burton movies have their faults and Cody is right in a lot of ways. He has made a few great movies but overall he is more style over substance. I enjoy Burton’s Batman movies but they don’t stand the test of time.
I remember the critics reaction to his Batman movies at the time. They were seen as being dark. Yet now we can see the campiness to them. They were dark compared to the 60’s tv series.
It's not underrated
@@Ian-hj4yt most people prefer batman 89’ to batman returns
@@geenhaaien But they prefer Returns over Forever and B&R
Na it doesn’t “rulez” it’s OK. Much prefer the real classic from these 4 movies form 1989!
Aside from the Christopher Nolan Batman movies, this is my favorite Batman movie. I like the darker tone. But I’m a Tim Burton fan, so I dig the gothic feel of this one. I liked it way better than the 1989 version. The first Batman was a little too campy.
I loved Michelle Pfeiffer in it, she was the best thing it.
In my opinion, Michael Keaton is the best live action Batman.
Hes good he doesnt really nail what I see as Batman
@@CodyLeachYT Who's your favorite Batman?
He's my favorite Batman as well. I'm a die-hard of the two Burton films, though I'm not a fan of Tim Burton in general.
Oh, and off-topic, I just wanted to say that I saw Watchmen for the first time recently and Rorschach is my favorite character from that film.
I can’t decide if I like Christian or Michael they are both different but awesome
My favorite Batman is Kevin Conroy
"You gotta admit. I played this stinkin city like a harp from hell. Ha ha ha ha ha ha."
"Welcome to the Oswald Cobblepot school of driving, Gentlemen start your screaming!"
"Just relax. I'll take care of the squealing, wretched pinhead puppets of Gotham."
Maybe this is a bad time. But my license is expired.
They wouldn't put me on a Pedalstal so I'm laying them on a Slab.
Merry Christmas brother!!
Thanks man same to you and your family
@@CodyLeachYT Yes, Marry Christmas Cody 🎅🎁
...... Good dissertation! Batman Returns was such a dark, cutting edge movie for the time, and would probably be embraced by today's audience. Danny DeVito is quite good as this Shakespearean, Richard the III- like Penguin. And yes, Danny Elfman's score is really cool.
Hands down my favorite Batman movie ever made. Idc how good The Dark Knight is and idc what Batman movie they ever make in the future, nothing will ever beat Returns for me. Pfeiffer will always be my Catwoman.
I was 8 years old when this movie came out and I was obsessed with it. Despite its flaws, it's still my favorite Batman movie.
It's a Fun Ride! I've seen both Tim Burton "Batman" films in the theaters when they were released.
Note: if it was not mentioned yet by any comments prior: Christopher Walken's character of Max Schreck, unrelated to any Batman Comics, was taken from an old silent film actor, from Germany. Max Schreck, who played the "rat-like" looking vampire in F.W. Murnau's silent masterpiece, "Nosferatu" (1922).
unpopular opinion: Batman Returns > Batman
Yess
Matt Reeves in 2038: "Okay, now I'm ready to turn in my first draft."
Batman has always been a secondary character to his villains. In comics and in cartoons, batman was always a supporting character to his villain plots; he is always in the shadows, letting the villains shine, and that's what makes them so interesting.
This film being so out there is why i love this film, maybe the most unique of all batman movies.
As someone who was a kid throughout the Tim burton movies, the marketing for the movie was amazing. I caught up in all of it. The toys, games, t shirts etc etc. Batman returns was everywhere. I was so excited for this movie. When it released, my parents took me and my bro to the theater. We get to the ticket booth, and my father says “let me get four for sister act”. I was so mad! Lol when sister act finished, a family friend was at the theater and saw how mad me and my bro were. She offered to take us to see Batman returns. What a life saver. Thought the movie was awesome! Lol I’ll never forget that story.
This is my favorite Batman film. Between Keaton's quiet panicked confusion to Pfeiffer's subtle psychotic break, it has the greatest character reveals in all comic book movie history.
When I was a little kid and saw the movie poster, I though the penguin was actually a witch
I loved the 1989 joker
Batman Returns was the last good Batman movie
I don't think Celina really died when she was pushed by Shriek.
Yeah, they wouldn't have had her fall through a series of awnings otherwise. She never dies in the movie. Odd that people leap to that conclusion, considering in her original origin she was a stewardess that survived a plane crash. A secretary ain't that different. People take a character's rantings as solemn truth, like when Nolan's characters are waxing poetic about never taking a life, yet we the audience witness blatant disregard for taking the lives of criminals and even innocents. I guess it's meant to make Bale seem more crazy? Selina never suffers a mortal wound in this movie. Taking a short fall into a greenhouse? Look at the gun shots on her costume carefully. It's a shoulder wound and maybe a grazing on her thigh, while others apparently missed completely. If there is something supernatural at play, it's LUCK, not magical zombie regeneration.
I feel like in every Batman movie the villains have more of a spotlight then Batman
Except Batman Begins
Merry Christmas Cody! Great review and I hope you review Batman 1989 soon. I think you’ll definitely love it.
I admire Returns more than I like it. It reminds me of Temple of Doom where it's a completely different beast than its predecessor. I still think Michelle Pfeiffer gives the best performance of any actress in a Batman film, and I do think Devitto's performance is underrated as well. Overall I'm not sure that it works for me as a whole, but I like a lot about it. I do love the 89 film though, and Keaton's my personal favorite Batman.
Hahahahahaha, love the "bat symbol" in the background. Opening music kicks ass too. There's only one way to approach this movie and that is to view it as a fairy tale or a fable. That's how I approach it and that's why I freakin love it. I think the Penguin is a great villain because, even though he attempts to do some of the most heinous stuff, he's still somewhat sympathetic. Dude was tossed away like a piece of trash. And there is a sense there that he might not have followed through with his plan had the people of Gotham continued to love him. Either way, his hatred come from a place that gives him a certain amount of justification. I love Pfeiffer's Catwoman. She's got a great character arc and I think Shreck makes the perfect foil for her. The production design is frickin beautiful. I can watch this movie just for that element alone!
Haha I added that symbol as a last minute touch. Yeah it's a very unique and interesting movie for sure. I always find myself starved for Batman focus in these movies that give all the attention to the villains. I know Batman has the greatest villains in comic books but I like a balance.
“Penguin killing innocent children... isn’t that a little...? POW 💥 NO! IT’S A LOT!” Ahh. One of my all time favorites. Great review👍🏾
Happy Christmas Cody. Thanks for a great year of reviews. Watching this from a tiny sleepy village in the heart of the Suffolk countryside in England.
Batman Returns is flat out awesome. It is a really hard film to quantify but I still like it and all the characters are just a blast to watch. There is a story by the way. Penguin wants to be accepted but at the same time has a killer plan b that gets back at Gotham's Elite society, Max Shrek wants a power plant to control Gotham, Selina Kyle wants a better life but struggles with right and wrong but wants revenge on her boss for trying to kill her after she discovers his secret plan. And all this relates to Bruce Wayne and Batman and his own struggles for purpose in life. Nobody really get what the want and it all ends in tragedy. It is all very poetic and sad.
Keaton will always be my favorite Batman. Hell, I named my youngest son Keaton. To me, Keaton is the most believable Batman. He looks like he would dress up as a Bat. And those eyes!!! I want to see a film adaptation of the Dark Knight Returns with Keaton.
Easily the best Batman ever
Love Batman."Always be yourself.Unless you can be Batman.Then ALWAYS be Batman".
I think you missed your calling as a stand up comedian Cody! This review is SO hilarious. I was laughing the whole back half of your review as you described all the things that go down in this crazy sequel. Funny stuff. Appreciate the laughs.
Batman is my all time favorite hero my first introduction to the iconic dark knight was the (1990's)the Batman animated series such a unique experience loved it
This is my all time favorite Batman movie. The esthetic, the performances, the darkness... I love it all. Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman is the best Batman villain ever to appear in a live action film.
I disagree but ok.
This movie just made me wish Burton did two more
Awesome review! When's the Dark Knight trilogy reviews?
18:54 Apparently, the plan had been for Shreck to be revealed as Penguin's brother, but it was cut for time. That could've added some intrigue and stakes to the second and third act albeit it wouldn't have helped the pacing and storytelling.
My thinking is yours in reverse..I'll take Tim Burton's Batman's over BM Forever and BM and Robin anytime. Besides Jack Nicholson as the Joker, I thought Batman Returns was an improvement over the original. I think Michael Keaton should come back in a Batman Beyond adaptation with him as an older Bruce Wayne and training a new apprentice (Terry McGinnis)
Your negatives are my positives.
I love this movie!
Tim Burton is the man.
Great review Cody! It's great to hear some honesty about this movie for a change. Have you thought about reviewing all the other Batman films and doing a ranking afterwards? I'd love to hear your thoughts on them (especially Batman and Robin lol). Merry Christmas!
This will always be my favorite batman film. It was the first batman film I saw as a child and I still love it.
I love the Burton Batman movies. Batman Returns is my favorite Batman movie and the original Batman movie is my favorite movie of all time in general.
Loving the jumper dude, merry Christmas to you & your family. ❤️❤️
I love Batman Returns I grew up watching it still love it today. Michelle Pfeiffer is great in this movie definitely a nostalgic great for me.
I respectfully disagree I was born in 89 and grew up with all the Batman movies from then and after I thought this one was the best until TDK but I loved how much darker this movie is even as a kid I could tell this was the darkest coolest and most demented Batman movie and imo the best Batman of the ones from the 90s no doubt
Another great review!
About a decade or so, I saw it one time only. My thoughts on the Batman Returns are limited to I made good memories with my cousin who is deceased who is my equal, enjoyed Keaton as Batman since the first movie 89 and other movies, soundtrack is hazy with me and Penguin did a good job of being creepy. It appears I should watch this movie as an adult to see if I enjoy as an adult.
Happy Holidays/ Merry Christmas to Cody Leach and everyone else.
"Unlimited pointing" is a direct quote, you're correct.
For me personally, the TB movies were my proper introduction to Batman. I had watched the 60's Batman as a kid, but these were a completely different thing to me that sealed in that original foundation. TAS was the cap on that foundation.
To confirm how some parents felt about this movie, my mother made me record over it.
Love your channel dude you have the best reviews out there. Merry Christmas!!
Batman Begins is better than any other live action Batman film. Totally agree with you on that.
This is my safest bet ever:
Fanbase (upon reading about Tim Burton's Catwoman): No!!!!!!!
Fanbase (upon seeing Tim Burton's Catwoman): Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There's no red blooded male on this Earth (who has seen the movie of course) that didn't fall head over heels for Pfeiffer's Catwoman.
And Cody is wrong about Bruce and Selina not making sense: they both are broken/psychotic and they clearly feel drawn to each other because they sense the other is like them sonehow.
In my opinion I think a Batman Movie should go for a hard R rating because I think it would be tense!!!
That would be great
YESSSSSSSSS i finally know your favorite movie my favorite is Star Wars 456 love your vids keep doing what your doing merry Christmas
I love Tim Burton's Batman Returns: Plot issues and all.
IMO Batman Returns is one of the most Batman, Batman films ever made 🤷🏻
Burtons Gothic style and influence which was allowed to flourish in this sequel is probably what made me adore it when I first saw it at the cinema and I still maintain it one of the best Batman films… basically this and 89 are perfect in my heart of hearts 😂
I actually like this movie for than Batman ‘89 to be honest.
I really enjoyed your review of Batman Returns Mr Leach. I happen to be a very big fan of Tim Burton Batman Universe and the Batman Universe over all. Batman Returns happens to be my favorite of the batman franchise I liked it for the reason you didn't for it's wild twisted and nightmarish feel of it. It reminds me of a Batman graphic novel or a Batman Elseworld story but that's my opinion oh and by the way I think you're kinda wrong about Selena Kyle she didn't really die when she was pushed out the window. The Batman Returns comicbook and novelization explains that she falls through three awnings and landed on a deep snow drift so she was only unconscious not dead so technically she wasn't a zombie lol their's also a comic book reference that Tim Burton was going for in the whole catwoman story line. But great review Mr Leach keep them coming.
This is my favorite Batman film.
Merry Christmas Cody, hope us Horror Fans have fun
I was 18 and saw this with a high school friend around 2 in the afternoon....I fell asleep about 30 minutes into this movie. Rented it once when it came out in case I missed anything. I didn't. Haven't seen it since.
In one of the scripts a pre Two Face Harvey Dent was in the film and he was the one Catwoman wanted revenge on. The way Catwoman kills Shreck was how Harvey would get scarred. And in another script Shreck was a Cobblepot and Penguin's big brother who changed his name because he hated his parents for throwing Oswald in the sewer.
@Cody Leach speaking of Christmas, I'm starting my review channel for movies and games, I'm kicking it off with Joker, COD: MW 2019 is my next then after is Blumhouse's Black Christmas
Not hyped about Black Christmas really, but for sure I'll review it
great job cody. danny devito has done sunny in philly since this and well you can say it tops this by miles in character. and this is my favorite batman after the dark knight trilogy
I was 4 years old when I saw this in theaters. Loved it!
Ohh and best line from this movie is... Penguin: 'You don't think you can win, do you?' Batman: 'Things change'
Batman Returns is one of the better sequels in the entire DC cannon. Happy Cody got to review it. Hopefully, he'll review Batman(1989) next.
Great review, man. Batman Returns is one of my favorite Batman flicks, but I can understand why others might not like it as much.
Great video, Cody.
I really love Tim Burtons Batman films. They're very unique...gothic horror comedies almost. Id like to see Matt Reeves combine Burtons and Nolans elements.
I completely agree with all of your points. I enjoy Batman Returns, but there are major issues. I think this movie is TOO Tim Burton-ish and weird at times to enjoy. I don't care what people say about The Dark Knight (it's my favorite Batman movie), I think Batman Returns is the darkest Batman movie to date. If I had to choose between being stuck in a room with Heath Ledger's Joker or Danny DeVito's Penguin, I would choose the Joker any day. I really like DeVito's Penguin and Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman portrayals, but I like Robin Lord Taylor's Penguin and Camren Bicondova's Selina Kyle from the Gotham show more. I also like Michael Keaton as Batman. Batman Returns is an odd movie, but I like parts of it. I like The Dark Knight Trilogy and Batman (1989) more, but I don't hate Returns.
On a side note, another Christmas movie that I like (I think it's an overlooked one) is Invasion U.S.A. with Chuck Norris.
Your not the only one that was surprised by how dark it was. That’s why the studio never gave us a third tim burton Batman because it was hard to sell toys for.
Weird how much Batman has changed over the years
Cody you are so right about how dark it is. Its ironic because I love it, but I now see your point about Catwoman and Penguin, looking back at it, I was like wtf??? I would've preferred Selina to not die, but something breaks her fall and when she goes home, she still naps! As for Penguin...damn he was gross lol
Michelle Pfeiffers Catwoman was a woman suffering from a PTSD psychosis. She doesn't steal anything,she's just out for revenge.
Even as a kid I knew this movie was weird but I still love it
I love this Batman classic & I rewatch it every year! I love the dark wackiness of it all 😂❤️😍
Marry Christmas cody I love batman returns I watch it every Christmas every year
I never even realized it was a Christmas movie til Bryan assigned it to me lol
Max Shrek for President 2020
Batman 89 you should re-watch they give you Batman’s backstory and issues with social norms and why he is Batman
Have a great Xmas Cody All the best for 2019 :)
That has to be one of the strongest Batman movie film opinion I ever heard lol
This movie has aged very oddly. I saw it in theaters and had all the toys so it has a special place in my heart. For years to me it looked badly dated but when the Batman Arkham games came out, it kind of revived my love and respect for this movie. Batman '89 on the other hand is an all-time favorite of mine, I've always been a defender of that one.
If I was ranking the Batman films Returns, and The Dark Knight Rises would occupy the same spot. There's a lot of problems with both films, but also a lot to like as well so they're a bit of a mixed bag for me. The 89 film is my second favorite Batman film. That, and The Dark Knight are the only Batman films I absolutely love.
Batman Returns is my favorite in the series and I think it is the best in the series!
I love Batman returns i actually wished Marvel would do a film like this with Black widow.
You said it bro. I personally love 89 the best, but this, I definitely agree with you.
i agree with some points of you (especially the romance thing with bruce wayne and selina kyle), but other than that this was one of my favourite movies when i was a child. earlier in life (when i was about four or five years old) i watched the "batman" show with adam west and was at first TERRIFIED of the trailer of "batman" from 1989, because he had such long ears... but then i calmed down (at about 8 years old), watched both movies by tim burton and loved them. the music of danny elfman still has a strong influence on my own music. def prefer the second movie, the style is also something i appreciate.
nice off-the-grid review!
Mask of the Phantasm is my favorite Batman animated film. I do like this movie but I agree it is not as good as the first Tim Burton Batman movie.
I agree with u for Batman Begins the story is more superior then The Dark Knight Heath Ledger as the joker is why people say the movie is better but I think his performance is what makes it more entertaining but Begins storywise is above the second Nolan installment. Yes Michelle Is still catwoman . I always loved Batman returns the most just cuz of catwoman and her badassism.
If Suicide Squad wasn't such a abysmal and the script for it, Margot Robbie's Portrayal of Harley Quinn could have rival Michelle Pfeiffer's Portrayal of Catwoman.
Horrormaster13 Kristen Bell and Samara Weaving might have been better choices for Harley Quinn. My main problem is that Margot never wears a proper Harley costume as her main outfit. Her costume look like something from Megan Fox's closet. Her Birds of Prey outfit looks like something she wears to the gym. Oh man WTF! Put her in a Arkham video game outfit please.
Batman Returns is better than the first, more complex.
Danny's Penguim is great, Michelle is the definitive Catwoman.
Wrong and wrong again
@@seancollins312 Are you unable to respect/accept someones different opinion, or is the vitriol of your keyboard too high? Christopher Nolan fantard! LMAO
I don't think Selena died when she became Catwoman. It was purposely ambiguous but each of her later "deaths" were survivable. Her character was largely psychological in nature with Catwoman being like Frankenstein's monster.
Die Hard and Batman Returns are my Christmas movies every December
12:27 that scene has always drived me nuts even when I was a kid.
Growing up, tim burtons take on the pinguin and catwoman was intense, dark and creepy and I loved it!!!!!! At least imo, It was way better than the previous one, the score was memorable and who doesnt enjoy walken performance. Pfeiffer took catwomans role and ran with it and its the only catwoman ill ever love (even though I still havent seen kravitz daughter yet). Considering the time it was made it was perfect
Same i was born in 1990 i had the same feeling as a kid i liked batman returns the movie more than 1989 batman i played the hell out of batman returns on snes as a kid Rest of the movies were kool but now as a adult return is way better than forever and bat and robin