Ranking the Emblem Paralogues in Fire Emblem Engage! (No DLC)
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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Timestamps if you would like to avoid spoilers for any given entry:
Lucina: 0:54
Lyn: 1:49
Ike: 4:38
Byleth: 7:50
Corrin: 9:35
Eirika: 10:19
Leif: 13:01
Sigurd: 17:25
Micaiah: 20:05
Roy: 22:27
Celica: 25:00
Marth: 27:04
Alear: 28:41
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I would like to suggest that Byleth should've had the sealed forest (Konya/Solon map), since it contains the moment Byleth gains Sothis' power and avenges Jeralt's death, rather than the holy tomb which is most notable for having a really cool cutscene in exclusively the blue lions route, and being where edelgard reveals herself (what a twist). Just think the sealed forest would have made more sense overall.
Edit: I'm also remembering now that the sealed forest cutscene was used for Byleth's smash reveal, and I've become even more convinced that they should have chosen it.
The Holy Tomb is also, where the route split of BE into SS & CF takes place.
You’ve convinced me, this should have been the pick for 3H
That, because without showing bias, is the moment before Byleth had to oppose and of his students. I was thinking if they wanted any Garreg Mach maps why not the one where Byleth makes his stand to defend the monastery from Edelgard. But the Forrest makes much more sense, lowkey
While I agree with your reasoning, and I definitely wouldn’t have minded the Sealed Forest, I think they probably chose the Holy Tomb because it’s more iconic in terms of visuals. The Sealed Forest is pretty much just a forest map with a stone area.
Lol wow. They really didn’t go for that map when it was both his awakening of power AND smash reveal. Wild
They didn’t even give Lyn a chapter from her own game, that’s my problem.
The tents are right out of the game turned into 3D I thought that was pretty cool
@@liamwilson7549 what I mean is it’s a FE6 chapter and Lyn is an FE7 lord.
@@TheBelt but they’re both the same world and we don’t know what happens to her during FE6 since she wasn’t created as a character yet. I smell a remake on the horizon.
@@liamwilson7549 I guess but I still think it would have made more sense for an FE7 chapter for an FE7 character.
That was weird, though so is picking lyn from her game. The most obvious ones to pick would be battle before dawn, but that'd be awful, or maybe the ballista chapter from her own route, or the first chapter you get her in eliwood's story. I think the problem is I can't really think of a challenge map where lyn feels like a focus or the most important character.
Uhai's chapter even might be ok?
I actually don't mind chapter 22 of thracia being used. Reinhardt is probably the toughest enemy in the game, especially with Saias support. It's a pivotal moment against the freege army as Leif finally takes his stand as a leader. Might not be the most pivotal, but I dug it.
Chapter 22 is by no means a bad pick for this, I was just surprised because even within the context of Thracia Reinhardt’s importance is massively overhyped so it seemed a tad weird to me
See, the worst thing about the Alear map is that it becomes available after Chapter 21 + 22 which is a long sequence in the game so seeing the Defeat Boss objective feels like a breath of fresh air in getting a short map only to get baited into a long ardous rout map that added some more work with reinforcements feels bad.
I almost got game over because of that shit. My units were in random spots when it told me to rout, since i thought it wouldn't matter.
For some reason I was expecting Azura as the rep for fates. Looking back at it gameplay wise corrin makes a bit more sense but I feel like having no customizable character reps would have been much better cohesively with the fact they used lucina
Lucinas map was one of my favorite missions in awakening. So glad they chose that for her paralogue
I'm pretty sure that chapter 21 was picked because it was the most memorable chapter in fe6. It was the first time beneath a new light starts playing for the map theme, in story the two armies are clashing head on. It's infamous for the wyvern reinforcements (God I hated them). You also do get the binding blade in this chapter as it's not exclusive to the gaiden 21x and I'm sure that most players got it during this chapter there first rime playing. I think if you ask most people which chapter they Remember the most it's this one (That or the desert chapter, or chapter 8) It just makes a lot sense to pick chapter 21.
Also the remix slaps in my opinion. Easily tied with ikes
its also worth noting that after recruiting lucina in awakening you unlock most of awakenings paralogues similar to engage
Byleth map was so funny the double warp on that wyvern would have killed my alear if it wasn't for framme lucina bond shield . Almost got warp skipped by the ennemy
I agree with Lyn, she didn't even get a map from her own game... Should have been the final chapter of her story in FE7, its big. Recognizable, and would have been a fair challenge for showing up early
Imagine doing an ironman blind and get tricked by Alear's paralogue.
Yes, that was me.
I lost 3 units (including Seadal) and had to rely on dodge tank in the fog because I thought it was kill the boss.
Thank god I was playing on normal and the late pre promotes are good to be used at base in the final maps.
My level 1 Pandreo and Kagetsu were surprisingly useful too
Tbh, I like Lyn's paralogue on maddening. I managed to defeat 4 boss tents and Lyn was in a good position to me.
I played Ike and Micaiah paralogues as defense maps and got punished lol. At least I watched the references like the Dawn Brigade enemies.
i would have been so mad if i was blind ironmanning alears paralogue omg
I would have really liked to see Radiant Dawn part 1 Endgame as Micaiah's paralogue given its story significance and what that meant for her, and the reinforced dedication she had for her country after that moment. But I get that one would have been difficult to replicate given that map focused on the elevation mechanic quite a bit.
Also. We Like Ike
I really love the random angelic robe on the top right of Sigurds paralogue. It fits so well.
The alear paralogue was way harder than it had any right to be on maddening my god I thought I was hard screwed so many times there like all that effort just to get the wedding ring buzz off
I actually skipped it on Maddening cause I got too lazy doing it.
On Eirika: Either Waterside Renvall or Scorched Sands would have worked well, in my opinion. Both maps see climactic reunions with Ephraim, and in the case of Scorched Sands, presents some interesting opportunities in terms of map composition (Though Engage's own Chapter 16 does take a LOT of cues from it already.) Beyond that, Ruled by Madness would have been a good map as well, as it's where they finally confront the Traitor, retake Renais Castle, collect their Sacred Stone, and get their Legendary Weapons. It's not the best map per se, but I think they all would have been better options than Sacred Stone.
In general though, Eirika and Ephraim got really shafted by Engage, and as a diehard Sacred Stones fan, that really makes me sad. At least her Paralogue has you taking on the map from north to south instead of south to north; that's at least a little bit of a permutation.
Scorched Sand would have been cool I agree
And I also kind of wish Eirika and Ephraim would have both had dialogue in Engage instead of Ephraim only grunting for Twin Strike
Chapter 21 is when Roy gets the Binding Blade (that's what they're going for inside of the shrine although it's easy to forget since if you get 21x the cutscene doesn't play until after 21x) so to me it feels like the big story moment was why they picked 21
Bro the effort of adding subtitles
Enjoyed it
Wasnt the cleanest voice recording so i edited the auto generated ones lol
@@ElutPesto still more than most people do. I can’t hear the best so subtitles help me watch more videos. I’m always super appreciative to people that don’t use auto generated subtitles that RUclips provides
Ahhh, beat me to it! Haha well when I get around to making my own Ill have some room for counterpoints then I guess.
REALLY appreciate playing the paralogue music it's all banger
I honestly think a good map for Byleth would have been hunting by daybreak. In my opinion it's one of the most powerful moments in 3H, where you come back to the Monastery you have spent the entire first half the game in, only to see it broken down and the town overrun by looters. That combined with the wonderful chasing daybreak song made it one of the most memorable maps, and honestly what I was expecting them to go with.
Wouldve been really great if we could see the maps side by side especially for the games most people havent played, but still appreciate the vid. :)
They’re all pretty good, but the best ones tbh are Eirika, Ike, Corrin, Lyn, and Tiki’s. Roy is literally just a complete remake of THAT chapter… ptsd in effect. I like Lyn’s map cause I like challenge. Lyn’s map is basically a middle finger to all the people who dissed her stats for 20 years. If you want Lyn to love you, you gotta earn it.
For Leaf's map. You do have multi-tile Warps, rescues, Freezes, and Obstructs. From emblem Mechiah
You get access to that map like 2 story chapters before you get Miciah back. So if you try it right away you do not have access to those tools.
i as an fe8 expert kinda thought we would get either the raiding grado map or the renais castle map as well the demon king doesnt really give the twins anything? Grado castle cause it has a lot of stuff with eph and the whole Lyon is evil thing. Although i would have prefered the renais castle map as it is one of the most interesting chapters story wise and it could be fun to have eirika fight by where her father died, plus for ephraim its this point where he really realizes that he is needed in renais and he realizes what great responsibilities he has.
Also i agree with all of these pics Fe8 is my fav game so yeah
I kind of lucked into how Ike's map can be played defensively (on hard at least): I saw that the stairs below where you start is only 1 tile wide, thought "well 1 chokepoint is easier to defend than 2", and gradually funneled all my units down there before Ike started moving. There is a spot where Corrin's ice Dragon Vein can block both the left and upper paths, and the AI is pretty bad at breaking them productively, so I just repeatedly laid down the ice and picked the whole group off with 3-range attacks, then swarmed Ike at the end.
THANK YOU.
I absolutely despise fake objectives because of exactly what you described. You plan your strategy around doing whatever your supposed to be doing then the game pulls out the rug from underneath you and smiles.
Like I think it was Chapter 22 in this Engage where the game told me to gather the emblems, so I used a bunch of very unsafe strats as I wanted to get this filler chapter out of the way, and as soon as I had done that it told me to rout the map whilst I had all the reinforcements hot on me untouched because I was focused on what I thought the objective was. Genuinely hate it, especially because Engage had built up trust and never pulled a real bait n' switch up till then (I suppose Seadall's chapter also kinda counts but I forgive it because the change happens on turn 2 and not an hour+ into what was a really tough map blind maddening)
Seadall’s map was fine because the objective changes the second you recruit him anyway, and I also agree about ch22. How hard would it have been to say “rout the map AND recover all the rings” at the start of the map? I don’t get stuff like that
i have a bad view on lucina’s paralogue because i COMPLETELY forgot about it until after i got sigured back, so i definitely ended up beating it in two turns with louis + sigurd and STILL taking no damage even against the rapier
Marth’s is the shortest. I remember finishing it in 2-3 turns, and I wasn’t even trying to ltc it
Celica map why not when they were in the graveyard as kids or when she split up from Alm when they became adults, the map they chose was very confusing to why they picked it out of so many maps they could have chosen
necrodragons for the celica comment
don't like "with mila's devine protection" take, I used to think it was good, appeals to my latino ass with the tango vibes, but when I heard the gaiden ost and the shadows of valentia rendition I was like nah bro, they actively chose to make it different on smash which I understand, it's a fighting game the song there has to be more active, like trying to give you adrenaline
I think the Smash version is my favorite because it is so different and lively. The other ones just kind of blend together for me and is by no means a favorite of mine.
I’m sorry I laughed too hard at your comments on Ike because that was literally me
Gameplay wise I actually liked Leifs the most. It felt like sieging a castle with all those balistas.
Or you could just do what I did hit him with lyn and wait for him and all his mage knights come to you
Picking a map you don't want to play for Lyn's map is a reference to the fact you don't want to play any of the maps in lyn's game
actually true lmao
I like the Law of Sacae remake because it’s not *as* annoying as the original making it way better by comparison lol my favorite overall was Chapter 10 FE4 and 3-13 because those are pretty important to my history with Fire Emblem
Also you don’t have to worry about spoilers my guy these games have been out for nearly 20+ years
When a new game comes out like this I always assume that it’s someones first in the series and I want to be respectful of that, that’s all
Honestly, as much as it sucked that the fe7 character got a fe6 map. But the way I see it, the most iconic map of fe7 being battle before dawn means that we probably net win.
Playing through Celica's Paralogue reminded me why I hated Echoes so much... Unlimited Summons just make any map slow, tedious, and just plain terrible... Thank goodness Celica decided to use Warp Ragnarok to attack me , so I could defeat her and put an end to my suffering, and Thank goodness they didn't pick any of the late game Poison Swamp maps for her Paralogue...
I thought Alear’s map was sus asf, I thought so too that it was just a kill the bosses and then it turned into a rout map and then I just cried after
Marth one was a joke
I just teleport him to my allies and he got a gang bang
I did all the paralogues at once at chapter 20 maddening just cuz I didn't feel like doing them, and I didn't know they didn't scale 💀 I kinda removed the challenge from a lot of them like that but idrc. Still fun, and towards the end it felt like a chore so I just started 2 turn warp cheesing the last 2 which was also fun lol
Celica’s especially on maddening really is 2 turn cheese or die since the endless reinforcements dont give exp anyways
@@ElutPesto that's exactly what I was thinking. I remembered how annoying those summoners were in echoes and I was like "nope. Bye!" lmaoo
The reason there’s two fe6 maps is cuz fe6 remake in the works, u heard it hear first 🧐
For Ericka, the Orson chapter?
Saw Lucina's map in the highest tier and an actual map with terrain and thought put into it placed lower than it (even if it's an annoying map), clicked off video.
Lets be honest, Lucina's map is a tiny featureless circle with a handful of enemies, that isn't a banger. It's iconic, but very awakening.
Nah no way Lucinas is top tier