Adding this now after a month of having it. This machine is VERY good. It is ridiculously powerfull, speed 3-4 is more than adequate for most applications. Solid, nice to operate and hold. A huge thumbs up so far.
After 30 years of cleaning my cars, I have been scared of using a polisher. Now now, I tried it first on my son's car and got amazing results. Next, my pride and joy! many many thanks - great channel.
These are fantastic machines. I have the previous DAS6 Pro, perfect for a beginner who isn't quite sure and is reluctant to shell out a whole lot of cash.
OMG Jon, you are an incredible communicator and teacher, actually, I think it would be more appropriate to call you "The Professor" because professors have a deep knowledge of their subject matter. This allows them to express with confidence that the information they are passing on is due to their background of trial and error that progressed and surpassed into the world of "Textbook" knowledge. And realistically there are a lot of Pro Detailers on RUclips that have the university level of knowledge and experience that allows them to be in the top rank of those who can apply their knowledge in doing awesome detail work, allowing all of us to watch it, but they are not as effective in communicating verbally what is happening in the total context of what we are watching on the channel. In the university or academic world, it is those with Graduate degrees who become Professors with the ability to communicate the full context of what they know to a level that is able to teach all those with undergraduate degrees and below. That is your audience Jon, and we thank you, Professor, for communicating with all of us.
Well today I put all those hours of watching your beginners guide to machine polishing to good use armed with the In2Detailing DA8 some scholl purple pads and scholl s20 black I set to work on my daughters fiesta (well it wasn’t going to be my S6 😂) the bonnet looked like Someone had used a pan scrub in various places… took my time and did the whole bonnet twice as some of the scuffs were stubborn… probably wanted a cut and refine… but not on my first attempt The result was impressive… well to me it was, still some deep marks and what appeared to be sanding marks but you really have to look for them Thanks for all your great content it gave me the confidence to have a go 👍🏻 Now looking good with 2 coats of bilt hamber double speed wax
I’ve just ordered this with the S20 compound and some buff & shine uro fiber pads. Looking forward to giving it a go before applying Gyeon One Evo after one of you latest videos 👍🏻
Thank you for such clear, step by step instructions. I really appreciate the advice about what pads and polish to use. Other detailing channels seem to skip this info or lack any tangible detail. Brilliant!👍
Taking the plunge this week , going to buy the da8 and the rupes Uno protect , will be my first ever attempt at polishing but this video and the Uno protect video has given me some confidence
Just bought one of these and had it delivered yesterday along with product etc. bloody hell, its hard work ! Now i know why your always breathing heavy in your videos ! Results are rewarding but a panel at a time ! ❤ thanks for the the videos and tuition.
Good video mate! If anyone is nervous about polishing (like I was) my advice would be try and buy a cheap panel like a bonnet and practise polishing on it. That’s what I and gave me so much more confidence when coming to do my own car
Thank you for taking the time and effort to make these videos. Although I live in the USA and find many of the product brands you use difficult to impossible to obtain, your videos have been very informative. I have developed more confidence in my own abilities as a result! Thanks Again! If I ever make it to the UK, I'll treat you to your favorite beverage at the local pub!
Thanks Jon! Just ordered a DA8 and some Koch Chemie bits from In2Detailing. Will be my first foray in to machine polishing after 15+ years of hand polishing, I've got some 18 year old Mini paint to work with. Your videos are always incredibly helpful!
After detailing for years and having used everything from the old Cyclo Polisher (still the best IMO for final finishing/jewelling etc) to my Milwaukee rotary and Flex 3401 which I love, I recently bought a Shinemate mini polisher. 12mm offset for added convenience etc. Ruddy love it! These cheap machines are where many top end machines were a few years ago...trickle down tech at its best.
Bought one of these few weeks ago, I’ve been using lake county finish pad with this it’s fantastic I’m not one to spend 200-300 on a DA so this is good value
Thanks for the reply looks like later. I'm going to invest in one of these tools many thanks for the review plus keep up the good work, your one of the best in to depth reviewers on RUclips
Just bought one great review. Have tried the Koch Chemi micro finish M3 O2 stunning results on a 21 year old MX5 after cutting with heavy cut. I surprised myself so much I had to lie down in a darkened room
Iv learnt so much ❤honestly you remind me of my dad the way you explain things. Respect my friend for taking the time to make this video your a great person
Great video as always, Jon. I definitely recommend Sealey's CP18VOP cordless polisher. It came out last year and it's an absolute bargain at under £180 considering the build quality and the fact that it's cordless.
Got the smaller one when you did the video. Used it last week and had an issue. Emailed in2detailing and they sorted it straight away. Great service from them and happily polishing away now. Some of these at similar prices on amazing don’t have long leads. Really important, Have the Smaller one then a 120mm dewalt cordless that John reviewed ad it’s easier being bigger and cordless for the bulk of the work. For me it’s a good cost effective combo for hobby use. .
@@ForensicDetailing no it was the plate - the version I had was different to the black one you had. The white foams came off the plate. They Sent me a replacement that looks like the construction in your video. Black front part white the plate on the back. The one I had was metal sandwiched between the foam and just didn’t last. The new part must be the later version and can’t see that breaking any time soon. Things happen but it’s what the company does next that shows they care. Can never fault in2detaining service.
Hi Jon, just a quick one on the backing plate. The holes are not for cooling the pads. They are designed for pneumatic DA Sanders that have a built in Central or self generated Vacuum for removal of dust / debris whilst sanding. In no way do they offer any cooling from the motor. All the air from the motor is expelled rearward and not forwards 👌
the air is suxed in from the rear Ive just checked this with bits of paper. the fan sits between the shroud and the motor below the latch. the vast majority of air flow though is expelled before the shroud which is unusual (in 4 vents). It feels like theres some airflow coming out between the plate and the shroud though, although inside the shroud it looks sealed off from the main unit. Indeed the shroud has vents inside it and I can feel airflow coming out off this. I suspect the airflow inside the shroud though is mainly generated from the counterweight spinning at high speed but this is expelling air out of the shroud (you can feel it) and if theres holes in the plates then the air will flow through them. I think its for cooling, I can check with the manufacturer if you like.
I like to use a mixture of Gyeon Prep, 90% IPA and distilled water - about equal parts of each or maybe a bit more water and a bit less IPA and Prep - it works great and is obviously much cheaper than pure Prep spray. I do keep the pure Prep handy though in case I am going to apply a higher end coating. Thanks for all the great videos!
It’s great you can get decent DA’s for little money these days. I got my first 15 years ago or so and had to import a Porter Cable from the U.S then get a voltage transformer from Screwfix. Quite a faff!
That seems like a good bit of kit! I find that as long as it spins, it's fine! If it just buzzes against the paint, it belongs at a car boot sale! Don't waste your time and money. Your machine will end up In a draw or cupboard or a car boot sale, fact!!!
Very informative video of a fantastic product. It ticks all the boxes for me, and I would happily buy one to replace my old but reliable and lightweight DAS 600w, which I still enjoy using. If Brian from Apex Detailing was reviewing this tool, it would be in tiny pieces after about 6 minutes.
Polishing fills me with dread ... this really helped me understand in layman’s terms better. Any plans to go into a video about fixing stone chips / if it’s worth it. Thanks John great content.
Great video thanks! I have a 1 year old Volvo in solid black and it’s covered in swirls from where I have washed it. Absolutely gutted! I was thinking of using the m3 as I am extremely nervous I am going to cause damage! Anyway, great vid it was really helpful.
@@ForensicDetailing hey thanks for the reply. It’s not really swirls as such but cobwebby lines where I used a rubbish drying towel. Anyway I will take your advice and give it a go. Just got the da8 this morning it looks a great bit of kit!
very nice results for a 1 stage with a entry level. gives me as diy weekend warror faith that i can achieve this result myself. I need a polish i think because my turtlewax s&s doesnt last 1 month =(
This is a really informative video, thanks. One question though; once you’ve polished and buffed the whole car, would you wipe it with IPA or a panel wipe before applying wax or ceramic, or is buffing sufficient? Thanks
Hi Jon, you are costing me a fortune as every time I watch one of your videos I end up buying something. I have recently bought the DA8 and a 3inch purple pad but the 5 inch orange one has been out of stock for over 3 weeks. Which other pads would you recommend to use to wax on (can you use the DA8 with a wax) then buff off? Thanks
Hi John Firstly, thank you for all the content you put out. I’ve learnt so much from you and am still learning. I watch your videos every day as I want to learn as much as possible. So much so that I have purchased your course. Just a quick question, you mentioned a name “ Imran “, I have heard other detailers mention the same name when talking about snow foam cannons. Does he have a detailing website? If so, what’s it called? Thanks in advance
Jon brilliant video as always... How do the Flex pads compare to the 3M green pad. Have you ever tried it? I find it’s quality is very high. The other 2 in the package, the Yellow and Blue aren’t as good but the 3M green is top. Also maybe it would be a good idea to get a few panels of different car manufacturers, one from a Japanese, French, Italian and German cars and try the different compounds and polishes on them and see which one works the best. For German cars I guess you have tried a lot on your BMWs which I also own but for other people which own other cars it would be good advice I think. Best wishes George
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks Jon, the green 3m isn’t a waffle, the other two in the combo, blue and yellow are and indeed pretty rubbish. Green is very good for hard paints.
Excellent video. I have a Porter Cable 7424 that I have since 2007. Should I consider changing it for something like this. It is for personal use only. Thanks again and subscribed
Hi Jon would you be able to do a stripdown on this polisher to show how to replace the grease with a better quality I'm sure your subscribers would find it very interesting. All the best.
Great video,. I might grab some for myself, just bit scary when you never have done it before, would you recommend doing a whole bonnet or just the part that has dust scratches? kind clueless here, so apologies in advance :)
John . after watching a lot of your excellent videos .. I bit the bullet and got myself a DA8, some pads and Koch Chem (Cut/Polish). You also got me into the Bilt Hamber stuff, Seal and shine .. and the Fusso Coat ! Plan is to correct the paint and protect with Fusso coat soft 99. This is going to be my first ever attempt at polishing using DA so I'm planning on how and when to correct the paintwork on the car. I don't have a garage (it's a communal garage) so will be working out doors is there any other advice that would be worth taking on board before kick off ?
nice slow polishing sets mate. and if you are doing cut and finish dont scrimp on the finishing set. a really good slow final pass does make a difference.
@@ForensicDetailing I've had agood look at the car and its got 10 years of swirls and a tonne of scratches/chips. I''ve been watching some of the beginners videos just to get my head around it. Should I retouch the paint chips before or after cut/polish ? Cheers John !
Great video, keep up the hard work. I have recentley subscribed and have found this channel very useful. A friend has just transformed his car with the Meguiars Mt320 using there compound, polish and wax and I was all set to buy their bundle. Now I'm tempted with this, especially considering the price differences. Would you say this will perform just as well?
in a work yes. the meguiars tool is a bit pricey. It does have superior ergonomics. And I recomend flex pads over anything (matched only by scholl concepts spider and ninja pad ranges) But check out the DA15 from in2detailing for 150 quid. if you want a long throw tool with full grip and trigger. review coming soon.
Love your videos, I have an old bmw e46 330, what pads and compounds would you recommend please? I’m going to buy the Da8, and what ever else you recommend.
Help please. Losing co car so got 2013 Corrida Red Fabia.O well. Machined polished with maguires Ultimate,looks good from a distance but in light lots of horiz fine scratches.I know its an old car but think I can get some of these. What's my next step please ?
Could be machine marring or deep scratches not removed. Cut 9nce with ultimate compound and stiff foam cut pad. Finish once with ultimate polish and sift pad l. Do final buff carefully m8
I would say its better to buy a used Rupes 15 mark 2 or 3 instead of buying a new cheap machine. Then you will get a great machine for a great price. Great allround machines, very stable and powerfull. You will not regret it.
dunno about that. A lot of second hand tools are shagged. Plus you loose the small plate support. I would say if your polishing your car once a year then this is perhaps as good as it gets and when you are ready to upgrade if you look after this tool you will sell it for 70 quid no problem.
@@ForensicDetailing Yeah its a risk you gotta take for sure. So you gotta inspect it good and feel it out. I bought my 15 mk2 used a couple years ago for 210 pounds and back then it was around 575 pounds new. (Norwegian prices). No regrets, great machine. Some cheaper ones might be good but I have not tested them all, I just got sick of my das6 pro and upgraded to the best right away :P
Yet again, such a great video Dave, I will be asking Santa for a polisher this year. A couple of questions, I do have a Dewalt battery and charger, would you recommend a cordless one of these ahead of the DA8, however price will be maybe £70 more. And lastly, on a 30 year old german black car, which has had a lot of paint, and many swirls! will a two or three stage polish be necessary. Keep up the great work, thumbs up
so if you go cordless you pay more, and you have to round robin batteries. But the Dewalt cordless is very capable. I dont want to say too much but my review of the DW cordless tools is coming soon and it looks at these offerings in detail so hold fire I would until you have watched this. hard german paint. Ok first up compound, and finishing, and ultra refining, is 3 stage. Dont confuse stages with sets. so I could do 3 sets of compounds, and 2 sets of finishing, 1 jets of ultra fine jewling or refining. thats a 3 stage polish. So you do the extra stage when you really want to max out gloss, maybe on a high end valuable car or maybe just because you are crazy or its a show car etc.. the etc ultra fine refinement is a lot of extra time for time gains. So Cut your hard black german paint untill you are happy with the swirl level and then refine it untill you are happy with the pure sharp reflection marring free finish... aim to minimise compounding sets if you can.
@@ForensicDetailing Thank you Dave for your quick and helpful reply. I will hold fire on the machine, as did see the Dewalt hanging up on your tool rack on the video. I only have 2x2amp batteries, so will have to see how long these last for, and not worry about the final stage, as its a regularly used older version of that lovely ruby red one you cleaned a couple of months ago ! wonderpreviously mentioned, these would be more than enough for the DIY er
Hey Jon, any plans to review the new Ryobi One+ DA? Its the R18P-0 and is due for release before christmas. Some retailers have it on their sites at around £90 as a bare tool which makes it quite appealing to those who already have the Ryobi battery system on other tools.
Hi Jon, I'm building up the courage to polish my car and this machine looks perfect. Can you answer a question please? When it comes to reapplying a wax,in 3/4 months time,can I just apply wax after a wash and dry or should I use chemical de contamination products then panel wipe,then wax. I haven't mentioned a clay bar as I'm under the impression you should only clay if you are going to machine polish afterwards. Thanks.
hey craig. you can just wash and dry and apply wax. or you can whizz over the car with like a AIO to remove and old residue of wax and give the surface a gentle buff up and prepare it for the wax or just let the wax in the AIO do the work. you dont want to be doing paint correction all the time.. but I love whizzing over the car with a light AIO glaze and a wax.
Great review, loving the channel! I was planning on getting a DAS 6 Pro Plus as my 1st machine but after watching this review I'm not too sure now. Would you recommend this over the DAS 6 Pro Plus? Also this machine is significantly cheaper...bonus points.
yes. your results will be down to you and the DAS6 pro can be used to equal effect. but this machine has more grunt, is cheaper and has an intergrated bail. I get comission if you buy it from my links but in2detailing used to sell the DAS6 pro before the DA8 was around. so either will do mate.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for the swift reply mate...We are both talking about the newer updated PLUS DAS6 machine here? It will primarily be used on older Audi, VW paint if that helps? Still leaning towards the DA8, it has that smaller backing plate and its a fraction of the price of the Plus. I didn't know about your commission but I'll be sure to order from your link when I do. Again, your doing a fantastic job on the channel mate, makes me want to go and clean my car every video I watch.
@@TynesideMadman yes mate the DA8 is the one to go for, it has 5 inch and 75 inch plate and a little spanner to switch plates.. its a great little polisher it should last you years and years and year.
@@ForensicDetailing DA8 it is then! Just need to get my boost issue sorted and then I'll be primed and ready for action haha. Thanks for the advice mate...saved me a few quid as well!
Think you may be due some quickjax chap, bring the cars up to a more comfortable level for you, portable enough to lift outside the garage too to clean undersides
Hi Jon I have a question I am looking to start a detailing business soon but I have never machine polished a car before and am looking to get into it and start practicing and getting good at it. I’ve been looking around at machines and the two im stuck on are either this DA8, or the Rupes LHR15ES Mk1. What would be the difference between these two? Is it mostly down to ease of use? Or can I expect the Rupes to give a better finish ? What would your advice be? I’m thinking on one hand I can get the DA8, and then save up for a Flex if needs be, or I could go with a Rupes and stick with it.
@@ForensicDetailing ahh okay. Would you suggest maybe getting the rupes or do you think it would be a better choice in the long run to save up for a flex and just get the in2detailing one for now to learn with?
I run the DA6 like you used before and hexlogic pads yellow, green and white with H8,K6 and M3 my problem now is customers getting damn customers.... isnt essy but yeah so i dont do a wholenlot of polishing even tho I love to do it😂
There's really no need to spend so much. Argos sell a DA frequently on offer for £35, get some ZFE store pads on ebay for £15, Scholl S40 and S20 black for £30, job done, the results may take a tiny bit more work than the slightly more powerful DAS, but you save a hell of a lot of money
@@ForensicDetailing You absolutely should. Sure you won't get royalties from Argos but if nothing else you will prove that skill trumps machinery. Even my low production valued crappy review of the Argos DA got quite a lot of views, if you do it you'll get a lot of interest
@@ForensicDetailing would make a good video tho I’m using flex polish sonax yellow fells exactly the same as rupes yellow but doesn’t do it in 3 inch so Rupes yellow 3 inch I use and recently got the scholl waffle I bought 1 but revived 2 instead lol and the spta wool
Nice review thanks, is there any chance doing a comparison between the das 6 pro plus the da8, the machine really looks good for its power. How's the vibration as the pad was. a little jumpy at the start but later smoothed out.
its pretty smooth this but its got more power and higher speeds. I was at 4.5 and it felt like too much grunt. at about 3.5 it felt more like how I used to polish with the DAS6 pro.
Hello Could you please tell me what you think about the Sealey CP18VOP polisher please? As I’m thinking of buying one As I’m told that my makita battery’s will fit Ps I watch a lot of your video’s Fantastic information thanks
hi jon, great video, very informative, i'm about to buy my first duel action polisher, i'm torn between the das-6 pro and this da8, what would you recommend to me, it's being used for a single stage paint show car if this makes any odds
Hi Jon, I’ve watched both this video and one from a while ago ( 7 years ) with the das6 pro & scholl s20 black. For a beginner, which is best to start out with? I have joined the patreon if I’m best to ask questions on there instead. Thanks mate
Yo Mark, The DA8 has a bit more power and a better bail but the DAS6 pro will still do the job mate. Get which ever one is one sale I think. The only other cool option mate could be using Rupes Advanced AIO instead of Scholl S20. The advanced will also protect the car and no panel wipe is needed or addiotnal waxing mate. If you message me on patreon I will definetly answer, its a bit more hit and missed on the comment because they continually scroll down, but I check patreon every night where possible mate. thank you so much for signing up as well.
Cheers for the detailed reply mate. Yeah I just seen your welcome message on patreon. Il message you on there in future. I’ll look into what you’ve just said now. Cheers mate
Hi John, I’ve just purchased everything recommended. I’ve got a newish black BM with a bit of marring, which is the best polish and pad to use for this purpose? Will one pad do the whole car? Thanks.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for the reply. I’ve ordered the purple and yellow pads plus some Koch chem M3 & F6. Will these do the job or should I get scholl s20 instead?
Good video Jon. I do recommend as a entry level polisher the Autojack DAP 150. Its the one I have. I have been detailing full time for a year now and it has worked a lot. Only negative for me is that it is a bit noisy. Jon, what are the chances for you to get hands of a Vertool gear driven polisher? I am thinking of going for that one instead of a Flex. Regards.
the vertool is a good option but its basically the same thing as the in2detailing forced rotation which I reviewed. I think in2detailing stocked their own forced roation, then stocked vertool, then went back to their own forced rotation
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for your reply. So I will go for the In2detailing one instead. I am also curious about the Liquid Elements polishers, a Makita DA I saw on ebay and the Chemical Guys Torq. Cheers
@@alexisamtosta 21mm refers to the throw/offset which is explained in this video. 8mm is less aggressive and good for beginners. 21mm is considered aggressive and suitable for more advanced users.
Yo Dave H9 F6 M3 = abrasives combos Purple = Non agressive Cut pad Orange = Softer polishing pad these are your tools and you start at suitable place. So fiesta will be lets say medium paint. very light swirls. I would start orange pads with F6. If you need to step up then purple pads F6. If thats still not cutting it then H9 and purples and finish out with M3 ornage.
Adding this now after a month of having it. This machine is VERY good. It is ridiculously powerfull, speed 3-4 is more than adequate for most applications. Solid, nice to operate and hold. A huge thumbs up so far.
Happy to hear this! I managed to get the last one 🤣
What do you think of the Poorboys dual action polisher?
Thank you. Just getting into machine polishing. Been looking g for a decent beginner review.
After 30 years of cleaning my cars, I have been scared of using a polisher. Now now, I tried it first on my son's car and got amazing results. Next, my pride and joy! many many thanks - great channel.
These are fantastic machines. I have the previous DAS6 Pro, perfect for a beginner who isn't quite sure and is reluctant to shell out a whole lot of cash.
Righto, just bought one off the back of this mate, hope you're getting a kick back :P Thanks for the videos, keep it up.
OMG Jon, you are an incredible communicator and teacher, actually, I think it would be more appropriate to call you "The Professor" because professors have a deep knowledge of their subject matter. This allows them to express with confidence that the information they are passing on is due to their background of trial and error that progressed and surpassed into the world of "Textbook" knowledge. And realistically there are a lot of Pro Detailers on RUclips that have the university level of knowledge and experience that allows them to be in the top rank of those who can apply their knowledge in doing awesome detail work, allowing all of us to watch it, but they are not as effective in communicating verbally what is happening in the total context of what we are watching on the channel. In the university or academic world, it is those with Graduate degrees who become Professors with the ability to communicate the full context of what they know to a level that is able to teach all those with undergraduate degrees and below. That is your audience Jon, and we thank you, Professor, for communicating with all of us.
:) kind words kyle thank you very much mate. you rock too.
Well today I put all those hours of watching your beginners guide to machine polishing to good use armed with the In2Detailing DA8 some scholl purple pads and scholl s20 black I set to work on my daughters fiesta (well it wasn’t going to be my S6 😂) the bonnet looked like Someone had used a pan scrub in various places… took my time and did the whole bonnet twice as some of the scuffs were stubborn… probably wanted a cut and refine… but not on my first attempt
The result was impressive… well to me it was, still some deep marks and what appeared to be sanding marks but you really have to look for them
Thanks for all your great content it gave me the confidence to have a go 👍🏻
Now looking good with 2 coats of bilt hamber double speed wax
One of the best advice I have seen for Polishing. Great tip on proper removal of the pads. 👍👍🇨🇦
I’ve just ordered this with the S20 compound and some buff & shine uro fiber pads. Looking forward to giving it a go before applying Gyeon One Evo after one of you latest videos 👍🏻
Thank you for such clear, step by step instructions. I really appreciate the advice about what pads and polish to use. Other detailing channels seem to skip this info or lack any tangible detail. Brilliant!👍
Taking the plunge this week , going to buy the da8 and the rupes Uno protect , will be my first ever attempt at polishing but this video and the Uno protect video has given me some confidence
Just bought one of these and had it delivered yesterday along with product etc. bloody hell, its hard work ! Now i know why your always breathing heavy in your videos ! Results are rewarding but a panel at a time ! ❤ thanks for the the videos and tuition.
Good video mate! If anyone is nervous about polishing (like I was) my advice would be try and buy a cheap panel like a bonnet and practise polishing on it. That’s what I and gave me so much more confidence when coming to do my own car
Thanks for the information. My polisher comes in the mail today, I can’t wait to try it out on my vw.
Thank you for taking the time and effort to make these videos. Although I live in the USA and find many of the product brands you use difficult to impossible to obtain, your videos have been very informative. I have developed more confidence in my own abilities as a result! Thanks Again! If I ever make it to the UK, I'll treat you to your favorite beverage at the local pub!
thanks Brian. where r u at in the USA :)
@@ForensicDetailing I live in Missoula, Montana.
Thanks Jon! Just ordered a DA8 and some Koch Chemie bits from In2Detailing. Will be my first foray in to machine polishing after 15+ years of hand polishing, I've got some 18 year old Mini paint to work with. Your videos are always incredibly helpful!
After detailing for years and having used everything from the old Cyclo Polisher (still the best IMO for final finishing/jewelling etc) to my Milwaukee rotary and Flex 3401 which I love, I recently bought a Shinemate mini polisher. 12mm offset for added convenience etc. Ruddy love it! These cheap machines are where many top end machines were a few years ago...trickle down tech at its best.
Bought one of these few weeks ago, I’ve been using lake county finish pad with this it’s fantastic I’m not one to spend 200-300 on a DA so this is good value
Thanks for the reply looks like later. I'm going to invest in one of these tools many thanks for the review plus keep up the good work, your one of the best in to depth reviewers on RUclips
I use a Das 6 Pro. I run without the D handle. That rubber 'nose' is a big improvement!
Just bought one great review. Have tried the Koch Chemi micro finish M3 O2 stunning results on a 21 year old MX5 after cutting with heavy cut. I surprised myself so much I had to lie down in a darkened room
H9 F6 M3 done Dave. If you stick to a few basic rules and deliver your set piece well polishing a car can be very straight forward.
Great video. Have watched quite a few getting ready for my first try - this has been the best by far
Just ordered one now they are back in stock after this recommendation, was considering a DAS6 Pro but I was convinced this was a better purchase.
Iv learnt so much ❤honestly you remind me of my dad the way you explain things. Respect my friend for taking the time to make this video your a great person
Great video as always, Jon. I definitely recommend Sealey's CP18VOP cordless polisher. It came out last year and it's an absolute bargain at under £180 considering the build quality and the fact that it's cordless.
Thanks Jon! Just purchased one of these from in2detailing. Thanks for the top tips and looking forward to my first polishing session ever! Cheers
Bought this the other day as my first DA and am really impressed, always wondered if you were going to review at some point Jon!
Snap, I got one a few months ago after seeing some of Jon's videos and I'm very happy with the results.
Got the smaller one when you did the video. Used it last week and had an issue. Emailed in2detailing and they sorted it straight away. Great service from them and happily polishing away now. Some of these at similar prices on amazing don’t have long leads. Really important, Have the Smaller one then a 120mm dewalt cordless that John reviewed ad it’s easier being bigger and cordless for the bulk of the work. For me it’s a good cost effective combo for hobby use. .
what was the issue if you dont mind me asking andrew. wasnt brush related?
@@ForensicDetailing no it was the plate - the version I had was different to the black one you had. The white foams came off the plate. They Sent me a replacement that looks like the construction in your video. Black front part white the plate on the back. The one I had was metal sandwiched between the foam and just didn’t last. The new part must be the later version and can’t see that breaking any time soon. Things happen but it’s what the company does next that shows they care. Can never fault in2detaining service.
Looking into my first visit to polishing my Range Rover and this is so helpful.
Thank you
Hi Jon, just a quick one on the backing plate. The holes are not for cooling the pads. They are designed for pneumatic DA Sanders that have a built in Central or self generated Vacuum for removal of dust / debris whilst sanding. In no way do they offer any cooling from the motor. All the air from the motor is expelled rearward and not forwards 👌
the air is suxed in from the rear Ive just checked this with bits of paper. the fan sits between the shroud and the motor below the latch. the vast majority of air flow though is expelled before the shroud which is unusual (in 4 vents). It feels like theres some airflow coming out between the plate and the shroud though, although inside the shroud it looks sealed off from the main unit. Indeed the shroud has vents inside it and I can feel airflow coming out off this. I suspect the airflow inside the shroud though is mainly generated from the counterweight spinning at high speed but this is expelling air out of the shroud (you can feel it) and if theres holes in the plates then the air will flow through them. I think its for cooling, I can check with the manufacturer if you like.
I like to use a mixture of Gyeon Prep, 90% IPA and distilled water - about equal parts of each or maybe a bit more water and a bit less IPA and Prep - it works great and is obviously much cheaper than pure Prep spray. I do keep the pure Prep handy though in case I am going to apply a higher end coating. Thanks for all the great videos!
great vid just ordered everything you recommended to start my journey into detailing
Right on justin. enjoy mate.
Just bought one of these machines with the scholl s20 black 1 stepper. Looking forward to seeing what it can do. Good work, subscribed
I personally went for a DAS6 Pro @ £90. Very easy to use machine, even semi professionally.
It’s great you can get decent DA’s for little money these days. I got my first 15 years ago or so and had to import a Porter Cable from the U.S then get a voltage transformer from Screwfix. Quite a faff!
Same here - My 7424 is still goimng strong :)
That seems like a good bit of kit! I find that as long as it spins, it's fine! If it just buzzes against the paint, it belongs at a car boot sale! Don't waste your time and money. Your machine will end up In a draw or cupboard or a car boot sale, fact!!!
Thank you for this video. I am looking at getting into machine polishing and so this is very valuable to me.
Love your passion man for polishing. thats amazing i feel the same. awesome review
Was looking at beginner polishers the other day. This would definately be what I would like to start with.
Over year ago I have use orbital Sander Greenworks 24V and works 👌. Wireless and lightweight
Very informative video of a fantastic product. It ticks all the boxes for me, and I would happily buy one to replace my old but reliable and lightweight DAS 600w, which I still enjoy using. If Brian from Apex Detailing was reviewing this tool, it would be in tiny pieces after about 6 minutes.
Polishing fills me with dread ... this really helped me understand in layman’s terms better. Any plans to go into a video about fixing stone chips / if it’s worth it. Thanks John great content.
hope soon m8
Great video thanks! I have a 1 year old Volvo in solid black and it’s covered in swirls from where I have washed it. Absolutely gutted! I was thinking of using the m3 as I am extremely nervous I am going to cause damage! Anyway, great vid it was really helpful.
if its covered in swirls then a cutting compound like H9 or even F6 is prolly a better starting point.
@@ForensicDetailing hey thanks for the reply. It’s not really swirls as such but cobwebby lines where I used a rubbish drying towel. Anyway I will take your advice and give it a go. Just got the da8 this morning it looks a great bit of kit!
Hi there
Great review. Can I ask where this product is made? Trying not to buy a thing from China. Cheers
Its china mate. you need to buy flex or rupes if you dont want to purchase chinese really.
Rofl
Ordered 1 last night👍, cheers John😁
Hey Jon,
Great vid for beginners. If you don't have an under cover option how would you go about polishing?
Ordering a DA8 this evening ! ❤
I do love you very detailed how to guides 👍
very nice results for a 1 stage with a entry level. gives me as diy weekend warror faith that i can achieve this result myself. I need a polish i think because my turtlewax s&s doesnt last 1 month =(
Lovely Jubbly, another great video, with some humour.
Hi there! You may also like to try the Vonroc 1050W DA. It looks like a solid choice at a very good price.
I’d be interested in a video comparing some cheapish polishers from eBay and if they can do a decent job
This is a really informative video, thanks. One question though; once you’ve polished and buffed the whole car, would you wipe it with IPA or a panel wipe before applying wax or ceramic, or is buffing sufficient? Thanks
degrease wipe down is needed for bonding sealaing and ceramics. But most paste waxes it wont make much different, they dont really chemically bond.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for the reply. Much appreciated!
Bloody hell Jon how did you manage all that on the fly?! 🤩 Loving the videos, had a couple of years out so I have a few to catch up on!
Do you know anything about Vevor products. They have a cordless polisher at a decent price that looks good.
Hi Jon, you are costing me a fortune as every time I watch one of your videos I end up buying something. I have recently bought the DA8 and a 3inch purple pad but the 5 inch orange one has been out of stock for over 3 weeks. Which other pads would you recommend to use to wax on (can you use the DA8 with a wax) then buff off? Thanks
In2detailing are pretty good when it comes to cheap machines
thanks so very much great tips and video,your well set up there.
I have the storm force draper da. It was only £60 and it's great.
Hey Jon great video just curious why you don't recommend the colour coded pads that match the products from Koch Chemie.
Hi John
Firstly, thank you for all the content you put out. I’ve learnt so much from you and am still learning. I watch your videos every day as I want to learn as much as possible. So much so that I have purchased your course.
Just a quick question, you mentioned a name “ Imran “, I have heard other detailers mention the same name when talking about snow foam cannons. Does he have a detailing website? If so, what’s it called?
Thanks in advance
In2detailing m8
Jon brilliant video as always... How do the Flex pads compare to the 3M green pad. Have you ever tried it? I find it’s quality is very high. The other 2 in the package, the Yellow and Blue aren’t as good but the 3M green is top.
Also maybe it would be a good idea to get a few panels of different car manufacturers, one from a Japanese, French, Italian and German cars and try the different compounds and polishes on them and see which one works the best.
For German cars I guess you have tried a lot on your BMWs which I also own but for other people which own other cars it would be good advice I think.
Best wishes
George
the Flex pads last longer. in fact a lot longer than 3m waffles. they are my favorite pads. the purple is a beuty.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks Jon, the green 3m isn’t a waffle, the other two in the combo, blue and yellow are and indeed pretty rubbish. Green is very good for hard paints.
Excellent video. I have a Porter Cable 7424 that I have since 2007. Should I consider changing it for something like this. It is for personal use only. Thanks again and subscribed
Yes m8 I personally would they are not expensive and it will cut better
Sold the Porter Cable and took delivery of this yesterday. Cheers Jon
Hi Jon would you be able to do a stripdown on this polisher to show how to replace the grease with a better quality I'm sure your subscribers would find it very interesting. All the best.
can do mate Im just not sure how much demand there is for that.
@@ForensicDetailing sure, I understand.
Seconded. Wanna change the grease on my polisher as well but I’m afraid I'll messed up my polisher once I stripped it down
Great video,. I might grab some for myself, just bit scary when you never have done it before, would you recommend doing a whole bonnet or just the part that has dust scratches? kind clueless here, so apologies in advance :)
Can't wait to see a review of the Dewalt cordless polishers on the wall????
coming soon mate
John . after watching a lot of your excellent videos .. I bit the bullet and got myself a DA8, some pads and Koch Chem (Cut/Polish). You also got me into the Bilt Hamber stuff, Seal and shine .. and the Fusso Coat ! Plan is to correct the paint and protect with Fusso coat soft 99.
This is going to be my first ever attempt at polishing using DA so I'm planning on how and when to correct the paintwork on the car. I don't have a garage (it's a communal garage) so will be working out doors is there any other advice that would be worth taking on board before kick off ?
nice slow polishing sets mate. and if you are doing cut and finish dont scrimp on the finishing set. a really good slow final pass does make a difference.
@@ForensicDetailing I've had agood look at the car and its got 10 years of swirls and a tonne of scratches/chips. I''ve been watching some of the beginners videos just to get my head around it. Should I retouch the paint chips before or after cut/polish ? Cheers John !
Great video, keep up the hard work. I have recentley subscribed and have found this channel very useful.
A friend has just transformed his car with the Meguiars Mt320 using there compound, polish and wax and I was all set to buy their bundle. Now I'm tempted with this, especially considering the price differences. Would you say this will perform just as well?
in a work yes. the meguiars tool is a bit pricey. It does have superior ergonomics. And I recomend flex pads over anything (matched only by scholl concepts spider and ninja pad ranges) But check out the DA15 from in2detailing for 150 quid. if you want a long throw tool with full grip and trigger. review coming soon.
@@ForensicDetailing thankyou so much for taking the time to reply. I will hold out for now, looking forward to the review.
The 5" backing plate looks exactly like a MaxShine plate. If this polisher is made by MaxShine it should be reliable.
Love your videos, I have an old bmw e46 330, what pads and compounds would you recommend please?
I’m going to buy the Da8, and what ever else you recommend.
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Help please.
Losing co car so got 2013 Corrida Red Fabia.O well.
Machined polished with maguires Ultimate,looks good from a distance but in light lots of horiz fine scratches.I know its an old car but think I can get some of these.
What's my next step please
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Could be machine marring or deep scratches not removed. Cut 9nce with ultimate compound and stiff foam cut pad. Finish once with ultimate polish and sift pad l. Do final buff carefully m8
I would say its better to buy a used Rupes 15 mark 2 or 3 instead of buying a new cheap machine.
Then you will get a great machine for a great price. Great allround machines, very stable and powerfull. You will not regret it.
dunno about that. A lot of second hand tools are shagged. Plus you loose the small plate support. I would say if your polishing your car once a year then this is perhaps as good as it gets and when you are ready to upgrade if you look after this tool you will sell it for 70 quid no problem.
@@ForensicDetailing Yeah its a risk you gotta take for sure. So you gotta inspect it good and feel it out. I bought my 15 mk2 used a couple years ago for 210 pounds and back then it was around 575 pounds new. (Norwegian prices). No regrets, great machine. Some cheaper ones might be good but I have not tested them all, I just got sick of my das6 pro and upgraded to the best right away :P
The flex polishers are out of my price range , can you recommend a similar one for a novice that’s wired and will do same job as flex
Yet again, such a great video Dave, I will be asking Santa for a polisher this year. A couple of questions, I do have a Dewalt battery and charger, would you recommend a cordless one of these ahead of the DA8, however price will be maybe £70 more. And lastly, on a 30 year old german black car, which has had a lot of paint, and many swirls! will a two or three stage polish be necessary.
Keep up the great work, thumbs up
so if you go cordless you pay more, and you have to round robin batteries. But the Dewalt cordless is very capable. I dont want to say too much but my review of the DW cordless tools is coming soon and it looks at these offerings in detail so hold fire I would until you have watched this.
hard german paint. Ok first up compound, and finishing, and ultra refining, is 3 stage. Dont confuse stages with sets. so I could do 3 sets of compounds, and 2 sets of finishing, 1 jets of ultra fine jewling or refining. thats a 3 stage polish.
So you do the extra stage when you really want to max out gloss, maybe on a high end valuable car or maybe just because you are crazy or its a show car etc.. the etc ultra fine refinement is a lot of extra time for time gains. So Cut your hard black german paint untill you are happy with the swirl level and then refine it untill you are happy with the pure sharp reflection marring free finish... aim to minimise compounding sets if you can.
@@ForensicDetailing Thank you Dave for your quick and helpful reply. I will hold fire on the machine, as did see the Dewalt hanging up on your tool rack on the video. I only have 2x2amp batteries, so will have to see how long these last for, and not worry about the final stage, as its a regularly used older version of that lovely ruby red one you cleaned a couple of months ago !
wonderpreviously mentioned, these would be more than enough for the DIY er
Hey Jon, any plans to review the new Ryobi One+ DA? Its the R18P-0 and is due for release before christmas. Some retailers have it on their sites at around £90 as a bare tool which makes it quite appealing to those who already have the Ryobi battery system on other tools.
Ill try and check it out mate for sure. see if I can borrow one off ryobi.
Cheers Jon, looks to be a 125mm plate, 8mm orbit and 2500 to 7500rpm speed.
Hi Jon, I'm building up the courage to polish my car and this machine looks perfect.
Can you answer a question please?
When it comes to reapplying a wax,in 3/4 months time,can I just apply wax after a wash and dry or should I use chemical de contamination products then panel wipe,then wax.
I haven't mentioned a clay bar as I'm under the impression you should only clay if you are going to machine polish afterwards.
Thanks.
hey craig. you can just wash and dry and apply wax. or you can whizz over the car with like a AIO to remove and old residue of wax and give the surface a gentle buff up and prepare it for the wax or just let the wax in the AIO do the work. you dont want to be doing paint correction all the time.. but I love whizzing over the car with a light AIO glaze and a wax.
@@ForensicDetailing ok that's very helpful.thanks again.
Great review, loving the channel! I was planning on getting a DAS 6 Pro Plus as my 1st machine but after watching this review I'm not too sure now. Would you recommend this over the DAS 6 Pro Plus? Also this machine is significantly cheaper...bonus points.
yes. your results will be down to you and the DAS6 pro can be used to equal effect. but this machine has more grunt, is cheaper and has an intergrated bail. I get comission if you buy it from my links but in2detailing used to sell the DAS6 pro before the DA8 was around. so either will do mate.
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for the swift reply mate...We are both talking about the newer updated PLUS DAS6 machine here? It will primarily be used on older Audi, VW paint if that helps? Still leaning towards the DA8, it has that smaller backing plate and its a fraction of the price of the Plus. I didn't know about your commission but I'll be sure to order from your link when I do. Again, your doing a fantastic job on the channel mate, makes me want to go and clean my car every video I watch.
@@TynesideMadman yes mate the DA8 is the one to go for, it has 5 inch and 75 inch plate and a little spanner to switch plates.. its a great little polisher it should last you years and years and year.
@@ForensicDetailing DA8 it is then! Just need to get my boost issue sorted and then I'll be primed and ready for action haha. Thanks for the advice mate...saved me a few quid as well!
Love your videos John, thank you
Any thoughts on the Halfords DA polisher?
I managed to pick one up for £25 as an entry into machine polishing
Hi I own this, there is nothing wrong with it for a weekend warrior
ill try and get my hands on the argos DA or the halfords one. my neighbour has one I will borrow it.
Think you may be due some quickjax chap, bring the cars up to a more comfortable level for you, portable enough to lift outside the garage too to clean undersides
I'm confused. Should I get the DA8 and the DA12 (75mm) or the DA8 and the Nano (50mm)? 😮
Da15 da12 and nano is king combo. Otherwise just get da8 on its own perhap.
Hi Jon I have a question
I am looking to start a detailing business soon but I have never machine polished a car before and am looking to get into it and start practicing and getting good at it. I’ve been looking around at machines and the two im stuck on are either this DA8, or the Rupes LHR15ES Mk1. What would be the difference between these two? Is it mostly down to ease of use? Or can I expect the Rupes to give a better finish ? What would your advice be? I’m thinking on one hand I can get the DA8, and then save up for a Flex if needs be, or I could go with a Rupes and stick with it.
Da8 is good backup polisher. Lhr15 is longer throw da which means a big more cut. Both finish out the same. Abrasive and pad choice Important m8
@@ForensicDetailing ahh okay. Would you suggest maybe getting the rupes or do you think it would be a better choice in the long run to save up for a flex and just get the in2detailing one for now to learn with?
I run the DA6 like you used before and hexlogic pads yellow, green and white with H8,K6 and M3 my problem now is customers getting damn customers.... isnt essy but yeah so i dont do a wholenlot of polishing even tho I love to do it😂
What polish would you now use after the paint correction stage?
There's really no need to spend so much. Argos sell a DA frequently on offer for £35, get some ZFE store pads on ebay for £15, Scholl S40 and S20 black for £30, job done, the results may take a tiny bit more work than the slightly more powerful DAS, but you save a hell of a lot of money
I guess the argos DA + ZFE gonna be like the cheapest starting point isnt it. I will review this machine soon hopefully.
@@ForensicDetailing You absolutely should. Sure you won't get royalties from Argos but if nothing else you will prove that skill trumps machinery. Even my low production valued crappy review of the Argos DA got quite a lot of views, if you do it you'll get a lot of interest
Should have done this combo on hard paint to see the difference between the correction of the orange vs the purple
its a video about the polisher mate not testing pad combos on hard paintwork.
@@ForensicDetailing would make a good video tho I’m using flex polish sonax yellow fells exactly the same as rupes yellow but doesn’t do it in 3 inch so Rupes yellow 3 inch I use and recently got the scholl waffle I bought 1 but revived 2 instead lol and the spta wool
Do you think any of these small hand held battery powered buffers are any good?
ive not really tried them mate.
Great video as ALWAYS!!! God job!
Nice review thanks, is there any chance doing a comparison between the das 6 pro plus the da8, the machine really looks good for its power.
How's the vibration as the pad was. a little jumpy at the start but later smoothed out.
its pretty smooth this but its got more power and higher speeds. I was at 4.5 and it felt like too much grunt. at about 3.5 it felt more like how I used to polish with the DAS6 pro.
do you ever dampen the pad with distilled water ? as that's how I was shown ? thanks John
Absolute legend you are mate
Hello
Could you please tell me what you think about the Sealey CP18VOP polisher please?
As I’m thinking of buying one
As I’m told that my makita battery’s will fit
Ps
I watch a lot of your video’s
Fantastic information thanks
ive not used mate sorry.
hi jon, great video, very informative, i'm about to buy my first duel action polisher, i'm torn between the das-6 pro and this da8, what would you recommend to me, it's being used for a single stage paint show car if this makes any odds
Da8
Many thanks for the reply Jon
Hi Jon,
I’ve watched both this video and one from a while ago ( 7 years ) with the das6 pro & scholl s20 black. For a beginner, which is best to start out with? I have joined the patreon if I’m best to ask questions on there instead.
Thanks mate
Yo Mark, The DA8 has a bit more power and a better bail but the DAS6 pro will still do the job mate. Get which ever one is one sale I think. The only other cool option mate could be using Rupes Advanced AIO instead of Scholl S20. The advanced will also protect the car and no panel wipe is needed or addiotnal waxing mate. If you message me on patreon I will definetly answer, its a bit more hit and missed on the comment because they continually scroll down, but I check patreon every night where possible mate. thank you so much for signing up as well.
Cheers for the detailed reply mate. Yeah I just seen your welcome message on patreon. Il message you on there in future. I’ll look into what you’ve just said now. Cheers mate
Hi John,
I’ve just purchased everything recommended. I’ve got a newish black BM with a bit of marring, which is the best polish and pad to use for this purpose? Will one pad do the whole car? Thanks.
Scholl s20 with a purple flex pad mate get 2 pads.
@@ForensicDetailing thanks for the reply. I’ve ordered the purple and yellow pads plus some Koch chem M3 & F6. Will these do the job or should I get scholl s20 instead?
Reckon you could do a video on those dewalt battery powered polishers in the background?
coming soon Jeremy hopefully within 10-14 days.
@@ForensicDetailing I’ve got the dual action polisher and I like it
Good video Jon. I do recommend as a entry level polisher the Autojack DAP 150. Its the one I have. I have been detailing full time for a year now and it has worked a lot. Only negative for me is that it is a bit noisy.
Jon, what are the chances for you to get hands of a Vertool gear driven polisher? I am thinking of going for that one instead of a Flex.
Regards.
the vertool is a good option but its basically the same thing as the in2detailing forced rotation which I reviewed. I think in2detailing stocked their own forced roation, then stocked vertool, then went back to their own forced rotation
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for your reply. So I will go for the In2detailing one instead. I am also curious about the Liquid Elements polishers, a Makita DA I saw on ebay and the Chemical Guys Torq. Cheers
That polisher is a 21mm bit aggressive for beginners I have a cocraft 15mm da was £60 very good quality
@@hakman239 The Autojack DAP 150 is a 150mm polisher. I recently bought a 125mm backing plate too but I rarely use it.
@@alexisamtosta 21mm refers to the throw/offset which is explained in this video. 8mm is less aggressive and good for beginners. 21mm is considered aggressive and suitable for more advanced users.
How many times would I get a professional polishing done for the cost of a machine and all the pads and chemicals?
roughly once 150-200 quid gets you all your polishing equipement.
Fantastic content Jon 👍
Jon quick question. Have a brand new fiesta which has very very light swirls. Would I be best soft pad with a finishing polish
Yo Dave
H9 F6 M3 = abrasives combos
Purple = Non agressive Cut pad
Orange = Softer polishing pad
these are your tools and you start at suitable place.
So fiesta will be lets say medium paint. very light swirls. I would start orange pads with F6. If you need to step up then purple pads F6. If thats still not cutting it then H9 and purples and finish out with M3 ornage.